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Speaker 1: with Gangst the Rap, lizs and It's your Boy Big
Speaker 1: Steal along with yeh hey man, you knew we were
Speaker 1: supposed to have a guest tonight. Right, Oh, should I
Speaker 1: know it's all good? I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I ain't know, you know me, I just they show up,
Speaker 3: they show up, they don't, they don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know what I should I shouldn't say
Speaker 1: his name, but I am. You know Rodney, Yo, what
Speaker 1: was supposed to come through? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, maybe we had better obligations or something.
Speaker 3: You know, we we uh, I guess you know, we
Speaker 3: gonna say hopefully nothing serious. But you know, sometimes motherfuckers
Speaker 3: just be like, hey, it can't help it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Sometimes people don't feel you know, I guess certain certain
Speaker 3: things aren't as important or or as a vow you're getting.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what. I don't never take this stuff
Speaker 1: personal because it ain't like we was paying them a check,
Speaker 1: busting them a check or nothing. You know, it had
Speaker 1: been a cool favorite for us. But I think it
Speaker 1: would be cool just to call somebody and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna come or whatever. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I ain't mad though, shout to Rodney. You'll hopefully
Speaker 1: everything all right? Right? You know that it is what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: And some people get funny with their appearances and like
Speaker 3: I said, what they feel is important, So it is
Speaker 3: what it is. You know, sometimes people have other obligations
Speaker 3: or maybe just forgot you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all good man. You know what. It's been
Speaker 1: a lot of talk, you know, and I know we've
Speaker 1: spoke them a little bit last week. This whole beef
Speaker 1: thing is going down, and I don't like to call
Speaker 1: it a beef, this rap battle, because I don't think
Speaker 1: nobody gonna get hurt, hopefully not. You know, now, Rick
Speaker 1: Ross in it. Kendrick has yet to respond to. Drake
Speaker 1: is out there. And one thing I noticed is that
Speaker 1: Drake's sung hasn't went to the streaming service ship yet. Still,
Speaker 1: you got me.
Speaker 3: I don't pay attention to a lot of shit, uh
Speaker 3: that goes on today. What you know, A lot of
Speaker 3: this stuff is a lot of stuff be set ups
Speaker 3: and gimmicks and gimmicks and.
Speaker 1: Ways to help you know, almost marketing employee. It could
Speaker 1: be a market employe because one of the things, you know,
Speaker 1: shout out to the homie Glass is one of the
Speaker 1: things that me and him have been talking about lately.
Speaker 1: In the event of AI. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people is using AI to demo out records now, you know,
Speaker 1: but people don't get though, you still have to go
Speaker 1: write those records. You just pretty much dim on you know,
Speaker 1: demo on the record out of somebody else's voice, right,
Speaker 1: Those raps still gotta be wrote. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that they suspect is that Drake's song was actually
Speaker 1: written by somebody else. Need to get into AI and
Speaker 1: earlier version leaked or whatever, and the business never got handled,
Speaker 1: so they're for they never put it out or whatever
Speaker 1: you know, on the streaming services or whatever. But you
Speaker 1: never know, though, doog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's too much above my my that's
Speaker 3: above my pay grade. Artificial intelligence and and and fake songs.
Speaker 1: And you know the originally you feel about other people
Speaker 1: writing reps though, like how do you feel about rappers
Speaker 1: having ghost writers?
Speaker 3: I mean shit, I myself have never used a ghostwriter,
Speaker 3: you know. I've always been able to come up with
Speaker 3: with songs or whatever, hooks, fray, whatever you know, or
Speaker 3: if you're true at what you do, I always tell people, uh,
Speaker 3: come natural, you get me, like waking up, putting a
Speaker 3: pair of pants on, or you know, brushing your teeth whatever.
Speaker 3: If you're true at what you do in your craft,
Speaker 3: then it should be easy to pen, you know, lyrics
Speaker 3: or whatever. But a lot of people blow they watts.
Speaker 3: You know, you put out a good album, they might
Speaker 3: have a brain freeze or writer's block because they can't
Speaker 3: think of anything else to come up with. You know,
Speaker 3: once you tell that first tell or story of originality,
Speaker 3: and especially if you become successful, hard to focus.
Speaker 1: I guess on.
Speaker 3: The hard times you know that you expressed or trying
Speaker 3: to make it, or trying to get in or you know,
Speaker 3: late nights in the studios and just being serious. I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, let's face it. You turn around and get
Speaker 3: a double triple platinum album off your first go around,
Speaker 3: start seeing a gang of money off of shows, and
Speaker 3: you know, people wanting to fuck with you, and you know,
Speaker 3: the successes of touring and all of that.
Speaker 1: Tend to forget about where you came from. You get me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you want to push that image like I've
Speaker 3: always had it.
Speaker 1: You get me. But you brought up an interest in
Speaker 1: plaint though, Bro, when you on the road and you
Speaker 1: got all these obligations because the bigger you are, the
Speaker 1: more opportunities come, and you don't want to turn these
Speaker 1: opportunities down because it could be real lucrative. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, do you really have time to sit
Speaker 1: up and write raps at a certain time, because it
Speaker 1: ain't like it was when you first got on and me,
Speaker 1: I hold hip hop to a different regard, like right,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think it's nothing wrong. If
Speaker 1: somebody come in helping you with hooks and helping you
Speaker 1: put songs together, that's a whole different thing. Like you
Speaker 1: may get a beat that already got a hook in
Speaker 1: a bridge on it, you just come a rap on.
Speaker 1: I don't look at that as really nobody writing your
Speaker 1: stuff versus y'all putting together a record. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, ain't nothing wrong with that, But you being
Speaker 1: an MC stuff coming out to your mind, you telling
Speaker 1: the story of somebody else writing that, writing that for
Speaker 1: you kind of take away from authenticity. And I ain't
Speaker 1: mad at it either way. I'm because you know, we
Speaker 1: all know some of the biggest artists in the game,
Speaker 1: US writers Like.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's I don't think it's a secret
Speaker 3: to unless motherfuckers want to make it a secret. But
Speaker 3: there's a lot of artists who you know, shit you
Speaker 3: can tell that oh they didn't write that you get
Speaker 3: some don't feel there's any shame, oh no, getting somebody
Speaker 3: else to pin a song or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think it depends on wherever you at, Like singers
Speaker 1: do it all day. Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: So I guess that's the aspect when you But then
Speaker 3: on like on your to answer your question about being
Speaker 3: too busy, I've been in putting positions to where, you know,
Speaker 3: touring and movie sets, and I always managed to keep
Speaker 3: a notebook in my bag.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying for some people like and
Speaker 1: like and this ain't no knock now, but I think
Speaker 1: everybody know about now that Snoop. Other people write some
Speaker 1: of Snoop's records. Some of his biggest records don't been
Speaker 1: written by the homies. You know, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: want a rock record. I think the Homely Bad Look
Speaker 1: wrote that you feel what I mean? I know problem
Speaker 1: been over there putting P in the pad, But I
Speaker 1: don't think that necessarily makes Snoop a we can see
Speaker 1: versus him just giving people opportunities sometimes, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean shit, some people are just bread for that
Speaker 3: to be in writers. Some people, uh want to not
Speaker 3: be in that position, you know. I don't want to
Speaker 3: be the celebrity and whatever. But I can come up
Speaker 3: with good concepts and storylines and so, you know, we
Speaker 3: got a lot of people.
Speaker 1: So you think, man, you coming from the era of
Speaker 1: hip hop that you come from, Man, do you think
Speaker 1: it's okay for people to be writing other people's reps? I? Now,
Speaker 1: I don't count Snooping that because Snoop has been like
Speaker 1: like Snoop is a whole nother level. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think you would count him cause he definitely wrote his
Speaker 1: own stuff when he was first coming up and DC.
Speaker 1: I guess DC helped him a little bit, but that
Speaker 1: was them putting together a hit record. So I don't
Speaker 1: really count that, you know. But if you found out,
Speaker 1: like a dude like Drake, somebody else is writing Drake's
Speaker 1: raps the whole time he been doing this, don't you
Speaker 1: think that kind of take away from misauthenticity? Uh? I don't.
Speaker 3: I had no judgment on it, because if it's not
Speaker 3: really if it's not really my style of music, then
Speaker 3: who am I to say?
Speaker 1: Uh? You know.
Speaker 3: What you do to get over M that show? You
Speaker 3: you know, that's your position. And when you're an international
Speaker 3: artist like that, I'm probably sure, you present it with
Speaker 3: a lot of songs from different motherfucker get it camp.
Speaker 1: And I'm a Drake fan, like I think Drake make
Speaker 1: incredible music, But is he a hip hop artist?
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm a I'm like I said, I'm a
Speaker 3: different artist.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a.
Speaker 3: I'm a reality artist. I tend to not do what
Speaker 3: it's trendy and what gonna get to that status of
Speaker 3: being that type of crossover artist or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: So I don't I don't consider artists outside of my
Speaker 3: realm to do what you know, they do what they do.
Speaker 3: I don't know what category you want to put it in.
Speaker 3: You want to put it in the rap or you're
Speaker 3: a rapper, that's fine, But you know, I come from
Speaker 3: a different era, and we just thought differently about certain
Speaker 3: type of music.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Just like in our era, we had the pm dons
Speaker 3: you get me, uh, which is kind of like the
Speaker 3: precursor with They would tell you in a minute, we
Speaker 3: hip hop artists, right, they went to hip hop shows. Remember,
Speaker 3: they get confronted by MO because we didn't feel and
Speaker 3: true hip hop artists didn't feel they were in the
Speaker 3: line of hip hop you get me.
Speaker 1: Shoot that was a monster ricord they had. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I said.
Speaker 3: That was like, like you said, the precursor to that
Speaker 3: era of the one minute we rapping on the record,
Speaker 3: the next thing, you know, we're vocalizing on the record,
Speaker 3: we're singing.
Speaker 1: That was you know around that. So, when.
Speaker 3: You are true hip hop artist and you come from
Speaker 3: the motherfucking trenches of hip hop, and you know the
Speaker 3: basically the slave mentality of you're not welcome here, you
Speaker 3: get me, That's what hip hop went through in the beginning.
Speaker 3: You're not welcome here. You know, y'all gotta go through
Speaker 3: the back door. You get me, y'all gotta hold y'all
Speaker 3: parties in abandoned buildings and basements. How dare you think
Speaker 3: you can come to a club and perform you get me?
Speaker 3: We were so to have someone claim your craft, But
Speaker 3: then motherfuckers is wearing weird outfits and you know, bones
Speaker 3: and sticks through their hair and noses, and then you
Speaker 3: singing love songs on records, it kind.
Speaker 1: Of it defiles what you worked hard to. You get me.
Speaker 3: That ain't motherfucking hip hop, That ain't motherfuckers. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Getting run down by the police or
Speaker 3: trying to throw parties in empty basements just to get
Speaker 3: our sound out there and people to believe in our shit.
Speaker 3: And then you can get a motherfucker to come along
Speaker 3: and put a dress on and make a mockery of
Speaker 3: what niggas really you get me try to represent as
Speaker 3: far as bringing hip hop to the forefront, Now y'all
Speaker 3: want to make a mockery out of it. Now you
Speaker 3: want to be singing on motherfucking records and calling it
Speaker 3: hip hop?
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like, I don't even
Speaker 1: know if Drake can be considered a rapper because he
Speaker 1: do more sing than anything else. But you know, his
Speaker 1: records sound good when you know he's a good rapper,
Speaker 1: you know, regardless who're writing and stuff, he still got
Speaker 1: to execute it. You feel what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 1: don't really look at him like no hip hop artists
Speaker 1: like that and nothing where we at in hip hop.
Speaker 1: Like I was kind of listening to them go back
Speaker 1: and forth to him and Rose go back and forth,
Speaker 1: and I think that sometimes these cats just get so
Speaker 1: out of range of what normal people is at in life.
Speaker 1: Like they talked talking about like, oh, your house only
Speaker 1: worth fifty million. You got a content creator house. The
Speaker 1: average person ain't living in a fifty million dollar house.
Speaker 1: The average person is not living in a million dollar home.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. Yeah, And it get kind
Speaker 1: of to where it's kind of like hip hop is
Speaker 1: in this funny place now to where I think people
Speaker 1: base a lot of what they got going on by
Speaker 1: much bread they got.
Speaker 3: Well, we used to have Braggadocia's rappers. You know, I'm this,
Speaker 3: I'm mad, I'm bad, I'm the greatest. You know, I'm
Speaker 3: we this, I got the I got the I got
Speaker 3: the Polo this on. You know, we got the we
Speaker 3: got the fat dookie links. We've always had Braggadocia's rappers.
Speaker 3: But I think in this day and age, as far
Speaker 3: as with economy and finances and uh flossing is at
Speaker 3: in all time?
Speaker 1: Hi, you get me.
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers want you to know, I got some dollars.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: The era of being low key and incognito. That's not
Speaker 3: our g that's that's not this generation. This generation wants
Speaker 3: you to know, Nigga, I got money, I got this,
Speaker 3: And I used to tell motherfuckers all the time, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: You you know you put you. You listen to motherfuckers,
Speaker 3: you know, these artists, these new artists, and like you said,
Speaker 3: they bragging, my house is worth fifty yours is only
Speaker 3: worth this. I'm flying around in G four, You flying
Speaker 3: around in the G two. That type of shit.
Speaker 1: Begging on the dude's jet, like, man, your jets from
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight. It ain't safe. It used to be
Speaker 1: a cargo jet, you know, And it's like, come on,
Speaker 1: bro y'all talked about righting.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, but I always say that you, as
Speaker 3: the fan, are the one that put them in that position.
Speaker 3: But then they brag about what I got that you'll
Speaker 3: never have, but still stream my record.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: I didn't like dudes who bragged about how much they had.
Speaker 3: But then it's the average motherfucker who's spending their money
Speaker 3: on your album. Now you're making them feel like, how
Speaker 3: do you feel to support that motherfucker so much when
Speaker 3: he basically telling you, nigga, you'll never be me? You
Speaker 3: get me and thank you for your twenty dollars contribution.
Speaker 3: And now I'm this, I'm that you'll never have what
Speaker 3: I got. I got this. You ain't worth that you
Speaker 3: are average motherfucker. And I just could never get into
Speaker 3: that type of a hip hop.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I listen to new dudes, and I listened to they
Speaker 3: songs if it's good songs, but I've never been I
Speaker 3: never been a fan of the braggadocious rapper you get me.
Speaker 1: You know what. Man, When cash Money first came in,
Speaker 1: they did a lot of floss and I thought that
Speaker 1: was kind of cool because it was almost comical the
Speaker 1: way they did it, like, you know, like many fresh
Speaker 1: to talk about I got an aquarium and a dash
Speaker 1: my car. You know, it was just so over the top.
Speaker 1: It was funny, almost right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But then niggas would go out and do it. That's
Speaker 3: the type of crass.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. It was like that was
Speaker 1: like almost a part of their gimmick. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm the number one stunt, I'm the
Speaker 1: stunning man, you know what I'm saying. I'm a stunt
Speaker 1: on niggas, and that was kind of like his thing. Dog.
Speaker 1: But then, you know, hip hop come from the ghetto, man,
Speaker 1: and it's always gonna be represented, you know, that's what pop.
Speaker 3: Come from the struggle from it came from, It came
Speaker 3: from like you know, it was our voice. It was
Speaker 3: our voice when we didn't have, you know, as a
Speaker 3: youth in those times, the seventies and the early eighties,
Speaker 3: you know, we wasn't we wasn't on know, you know
Speaker 3: who's my role model? And I want to be like
Speaker 3: Mike and you know and Martin Luther had a dream
Speaker 3: and all that. Nigga, we was figuring out how to
Speaker 3: make bread and stays and survive and run down neighborhoods
Speaker 3: and buildings and poverty. So hip hop was the voice,
Speaker 3: you get me, it was. It was the struggle music
Speaker 3: for us. We didn't have to listen to, you know,
Speaker 3: our parents' music, the blues and.
Speaker 1: Shit like that.
Speaker 3: We had our own lane. Niggas started rapping about what
Speaker 3: we was feeling. You know, drug dealers everywhere. Niggas don't care. Nigga.
Speaker 3: I'm Meley Mayo with the message and you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. We had songs that represented nigga. We in
Speaker 3: the struggle right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't want to sound like one of
Speaker 1: them old men is like, oh woe is me? The
Speaker 1: little kids making this type of music. Now. It's just
Speaker 1: that I think if people not careful, they can almost
Speaker 1: take theyself out the loop of reality because the stuff
Speaker 1: they talking about really ain't reality for the average person
Speaker 1: living in this country. It's maybe only maybe one percent
Speaker 1: of the people in this country, or maybe point five
Speaker 1: percent of the country that's actually living like that. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, And you think, don't think rappers.
Speaker 2: Are being reeled about how the economy is affecting them
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 1: You? Oh, no, definitely not. I think it's a rapper's job,
Speaker 1: so to speak, to always kind of put two on
Speaker 1: the ten because they have an image to portray. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying. Do you really think Ross is
Speaker 1: walking around all day every day with big jewels on
Speaker 1: and glasses on, with a perfectly lined up beard and
Speaker 1: all those are photo opportunities? Definitely? You feel what I'm
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, and everybody, if they not watching
Speaker 1: they coin, they better watch they coin right now because
Speaker 1: the American dollar is taking the Noseedie. And I think
Speaker 1: you know when they talk about everybody can't be living
Speaker 1: in no fifty million dollar crib. I just know that
Speaker 1: the economics of music don't allow for that. The way
Speaker 1: streaming ISS you have to stream for you have to
Speaker 1: stream a lot of units. And I know Rass, for example,
Speaker 1: got a lot of outside businesses outside a rap But
Speaker 1: even then, how many of those are just sponsorship opportunities
Speaker 1: versus him actually owning something? And that's not me getting
Speaker 1: this business because Rose got way more paper than I do.
Speaker 1: But I think everybody cap and everybody not big in
Speaker 1: theirs though I've never been wanting to count pockets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not into that either, but I just think I
Speaker 1: know his question. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Firsthand being an artists, dealing with companies and contracts. Everything
Speaker 3: ain't what it seems. But again, you know, imagery is everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 3: Of shit is rented, at least a lot of shit is,
Speaker 3: like you said, favors and loans. But you know, when
Speaker 3: you put yourself in that position forgetting that.
Speaker 1: You can be normal.
Speaker 3: Now you have to keep up with the Joneses.
Speaker 1: They you know, that's what they say. So, yeah, the
Speaker 1: fans want to law you to be normal. You gotta
Speaker 1: think about this eight Like we talked about this before,
Speaker 1: You could be normal. I want to see you normal though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could be normal if you present your They
Speaker 3: they accept j Cole normal. You don't ride around with
Speaker 3: you know, you don't see motherfucker jumping out of Bentley
Speaker 3: trucks and rolls Royces and the entourages and the thirty
Speaker 3: chains on, and you can be.
Speaker 1: Ain't living on top of the liquors through on Second
Speaker 1: Street either. Fans don't want to. If they see him
Speaker 1: in that light, they go clown them. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, but you don't have to. You don't
Speaker 1: have to become a successful artist off the struggle. Once
Speaker 1: you become successful, you should remember where you came from.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't turn.
Speaker 3: Around and Okay, today I'm talking about how I'm struggling
Speaker 3: and hustling to survive. And then I go out and
Speaker 3: because a lot of fans identify with what I'm coming from,
Speaker 3: so I sell two three four million records. Now I
Speaker 3: want to walk around in Fasachi shirts and big chains
Speaker 3: on and then alienate the motherfuckers who put me in
Speaker 3: this position. I'm just I'm just not cool with that shit.
Speaker 3: You can be normal if you want to. Kendrick, Ain't
Speaker 3: riding around with big chains on and jumping out of
Speaker 3: motherfucking thirty rows rooces. He got a gang of money,
Speaker 3: He's done a gang of shows. But I could be No,
Speaker 3: you can be normal, But if you choose to put
Speaker 3: yourself in the nigga, I'm finna jump off private planes
Speaker 3: and nigga, I'm finna pull up with nigga. I got
Speaker 3: all my every nigga that hang around. I got ten
Speaker 3: cars in my driveway. So now I'm gonna call up
Speaker 3: ten of my homies and I'm gonna get in each
Speaker 3: keys and We're gonna drive all through downtown and floss
Speaker 3: to go jump out at the Sneakers store. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like it's you. You put yourself in
Speaker 3: that position.
Speaker 1: I would imagine the duck riding right here, Dut. You
Speaker 1: know you my homeboy dog me and they need you
Speaker 1: to come up here and sit with his dog because
Speaker 1: I got a lot of a lot of shit to talk.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about Kendrick. Gag fucking
Speaker 1: Kendred like boy, leave me alone. No, I'm bless my home.
Speaker 1: He Kendrick is my homie too. That's why I got
Speaker 1: redid some work. He might fuck around, the comano dog,
Speaker 1: he might fuck around to come Dut.
Speaker 3: That type of dude, you you better off action Michael
Speaker 3: Jackson to pull up.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Michael, no mother there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but niggas get it. Certain niggas get certain statuses.
Speaker 1: Aday.
Speaker 3: Like I said, sometimes, you know what, sometimes you can
Speaker 3: put yourself. You can become something to where it don't
Speaker 3: even allow me to do that anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, no, I will tell you this. That's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Dut if he had the opportune time,
Speaker 1: he would do it. But I don't think he could
Speaker 1: come over here and do it. No, so much security.
Speaker 1: You probably have to have so much different stuff in places.
Speaker 1: He's a mega superstar. Now, Yeah, you gotta pull up
Speaker 1: like the president. You gotta have an entourage, and you
Speaker 1: gotta have security, and niggas gotta check the street out
Speaker 1: on top of the buildings and all that shit. So
Speaker 1: sometimes when you become so big, uh, it doesn't allow
Speaker 1: you to do the normal ship. But still you can
Speaker 1: still be I'm my nigga is still normal. A lot
Speaker 1: of people might think he's you know, different, but to me,
Speaker 1: he's annoy normal nigga. He's not the one who feels
Speaker 1: like I got to impress the public.
Speaker 3: Now you get me, now, I have to go out
Speaker 3: and pull up in the two million dollar car because
Speaker 3: I put myself in that position.
Speaker 1: Why because I started rapping about the shit.
Speaker 3: Because I started telling niggas, Nigga, I'm bringing in twenty
Speaker 3: kilos and nigga, I'm the man, and nigga, I'm having
Speaker 3: lunch in Paris, and then WOOTI wom now I expect it.
Speaker 3: I better not see your motherfucking ass pulling up in
Speaker 3: the Honda Civic and shit like that, because you put
Speaker 3: yourself in that position. If you want to be normal,
Speaker 3: you can be normal.
Speaker 1: Who always did a good job of keeping stuff normal. Dog.
Speaker 1: I would see you different places at your height. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't ever since necessarily just run up to you and
Speaker 1: talk to you all the time, but I would see
Speaker 1: you places right. I would also see Warrens in regular
Speaker 1: places a long you know, around like at the grocery
Speaker 1: store out right. I used to bump in him. I
Speaker 1: think he might have been living in that little community
Speaker 1: in Lakewood at that time. I would always see him
Speaker 1: in the grocery store because I was I lived right
Speaker 1: around the corner from there, so I would always bump
Speaker 1: into him, and I think that's why he got the
Speaker 1: love in the community that he did get because he
Speaker 1: was accessible. Yes, when he was a mega superstar, that's
Speaker 1: when Regulator was out.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like people be surprised, Like
Speaker 3: they'll see me in the in the in the grocery store,
Speaker 3: or they'll see me at the cleaners or some regular
Speaker 3: shit like you really in the like okay, Like I
Speaker 3: had to tell him, motherfucker the other day, how I'm
Speaker 3: a get ship. Then I don't have no motherfucker going
Speaker 3: to the store shopping for me. Most people buying and
Speaker 3: buying my cases of water and juices, and most people
Speaker 3: don't bro like and mother fucker like you be cooking,
Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck, is my kid gonna eat if I
Speaker 3: don't cook? Like I'm a normal person outside of what
Speaker 3: you might go on. Man, this nigga been in movies
Speaker 3: and he got records, He been on a video game
Speaker 3: and on. Outside of that, I tried to stay grounded
Speaker 3: and normal. It can fuck with you if you've come
Speaker 3: from nothing and all of a sudden, you know, a
Speaker 3: nigga handing you a check for a million dollars and
Speaker 3: you know, and you're able to do you the all shit.
Speaker 3: Now I can go to the mall right now and
Speaker 3: buy twenty pair of shoes, or I can go buy
Speaker 3: my mama a car, or Nigga, we could go. We'd
Speaker 3: go sit down at the fancy restaurant and spend a
Speaker 3: thousand two.
Speaker 1: The conception is something else, Like I remember when Kendrick's
Speaker 1: little sister had a birthday and I guess he brought
Speaker 1: her a Nissan or something. Everybody in the comment section
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, you such a bad brother. You didn't
Speaker 1: go out and buy her a Bentley. You didn't go out.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's a nice present. You know, a girl
Speaker 1: grades wait in high school, get a Nize.
Speaker 3: Yes, hell, your sister problems as a normal, as a normal,
Speaker 3: as a normal motherfucker. A person's come up and like here,
Speaker 3: here's a motherfucking Honda, or here's a knee sign, or
Speaker 3: here's a hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, least I looked those pretty decent calls.
Speaker 3: Ran new and nigg I can get from A to
Speaker 3: B and and still don't have to worry about you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, asking motherfuckers for rides or catching
Speaker 3: public transportation. That that's but see, I can see that
Speaker 3: as a motherfucker wanting to.
Speaker 1: Let me I gotta keep you grounded.
Speaker 3: You get me, because if I start stepping out of
Speaker 3: the element, then everything gonna be fucked. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a bending ran through one hundred million dollars on
Speaker 3: crazy shit.
Speaker 1: You have to be really because you have to understand
Speaker 1: from the fans standpoint, they think everybody got making money,
Speaker 1: especially and you know what's funny, the podcast stuff started
Speaker 1: getting that same category. I pretty much know what everybody
Speaker 1: getting right, and some of these numbers just be just
Speaker 1: way out there, just because there's no way for them
Speaker 1: companies to recoup that money. How they gonna have to
Speaker 1: sell a gang. It would have to be ads running
Speaker 1: there dropping every two minutes. You feel what I mean,
Speaker 1: you would have reads dropping every two minutes. It just
Speaker 1: don't work like that. But to the fans, they believe
Speaker 1: everything that they hear. So I get people, I get
Speaker 1: certain family members tell me, why don't you buy you
Speaker 1: a new car? When you gonna buy you a new car?
Speaker 1: It don't matter now, it don't matter a that my
Speaker 1: kid is driving whatever they driving, and my wife's driving
Speaker 1: whatever she's driving. They see me in my truck and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, he need to go buy him?
Speaker 3: But why should I because they feel like.
Speaker 1: Like, why do I have to buy a new cardinal piece?
Speaker 3: Because you're putting yourself in a celebrity category, and now
Speaker 3: that you're a celebrity, you can't be normal. You can't
Speaker 3: be normal, you can't be just you know, you're the
Speaker 3: Gangster Chronicles dude, So why would you you want to
Speaker 3: be riding around in the old truck when you can
Speaker 3: go rent you a Benz or a BMW or lease
Speaker 3: you a fancy you know car, because that's the image
Speaker 3: that people feel you're supposed to represent.
Speaker 1: Don't you think it's just more safer to be a homeowner,
Speaker 1: to be a guy that owns property, to be a
Speaker 1: guy to own other little ancillary businesses and stuff. That's
Speaker 1: not what you can think that's more mature, because the
Speaker 1: thing is.
Speaker 3: But it's most likely our people though you get me.
Speaker 3: You can say that about you know, not to say
Speaker 3: all black people don't have that train of thought, but
Speaker 3: at some particular age brackets, it's like, no, nigga, what
Speaker 3: do you mean.
Speaker 1: Buy a home and stocks and all that shit. You know.
Speaker 3: Now, some people are trying to you know, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: the smart thing to do, whatever, but come on, the
Speaker 3: typical motherfucker, eighteen to thirty. You get it, motherfucker, you're
Speaker 3: supposed to live, nigga. Where's the where's the Louis Vatanes
Speaker 3: and the bags?
Speaker 1: You better think about it though, Like this, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure me and you was talking earlier. You don't have
Speaker 1: every car possible. I done drove five fifties. Dog, I've
Speaker 1: had the five fifties. I've had to escalate with the
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars kits on them. Dog. Of course you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't resist sometimes. I've had all that stuff, you
Speaker 1: know where all that stuff is now dog gone because
Speaker 1: it wasn't worth It wasn't worth it. Like once you
Speaker 1: get to the economics of this stuff. You ever notice
Speaker 1: when you trade a car in man, you'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: I think, damn one hundred thousand for that, man, I
Speaker 1: only got twenty thousand dollars back for It's just the economically,
Speaker 1: it don't make sense.
Speaker 3: And I think that just comes with maturity. Like they say,
Speaker 3: if it's nothing, if you got it. But I think
Speaker 3: once you get a certain age, you start filling uh
Speaker 3: to be conservative and to be smart. It's probably a
Speaker 3: better way of thinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta be conservative because the thing is one
Speaker 1: thing is about a dog father time is undefeated.
Speaker 3: And like I said, I don't I don't like to
Speaker 3: judge motherfuckers for their choices because I was in the
Speaker 3: same position. You get me, Like I said, when you
Speaker 3: come out of struggling in poverty and you get your
Speaker 3: first opportunity to make some money, yeah you got. And
Speaker 3: you and you a young man or young female, and
Speaker 3: you know, you nineteen twenty twenty one years old, and
Speaker 3: the motherfucker come hand you a couple one hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know.
Speaker 3: If you haven't already had the teachings and the trainings
Speaker 3: of economics and how to manage money and the long run.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: Let's think twenty years down the road of what's gonna be,
Speaker 3: and so you think different You would think differently probably,
Speaker 3: But I tell you there's not too many of us
Speaker 3: at nineteen twenty years old, coming up out of the
Speaker 3: hood who had economic training other than selling dope.
Speaker 1: You feel me tell you something, I'm pretty sure over
Speaker 1: your career, over the course of your career, you don't
Speaker 1: make ms. I'm pretty sure, right, I don't made a
Speaker 1: nice chunk of money too. Man. But I really just
Speaker 1: set up and thought one day, we're half the stuff
Speaker 1: I don't bought is at right now? Like I thought
Speaker 1: about it right because I'm like, man, I had a car,
Speaker 1: I had a little rider. I was working on where's
Speaker 1: that because you just think about it, like, man, a
Speaker 1: lot of shit? You know, where's my car? Had dirt,
Speaker 1: dirt bikes and jet skis. You don't know where none
Speaker 1: of this stuff is at. No jewelry and boats and jurry.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about some watches I had, right,
Speaker 1: I had these watches, man, And I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just came off of tour. We just came back from
Speaker 1: England and I went downtown and I bought four watch is.
Speaker 1: I actually bought one for my DJ and I got
Speaker 1: one for free. You know, I used to go be
Speaker 1: able to go places get stuff for free. And these
Speaker 1: watches was like they was buzz downs though they was
Speaker 1: at minimum fifteen bands to twenty bands, right. I remember.
Speaker 1: I wound up keeping one of them because I got
Speaker 1: at the while to where I didn't like that gaudy shit.
Speaker 1: You know that shit is just too big and too bright.
Speaker 1: You know, you after a while you reach a place
Speaker 1: I think when you hit your thirties, you start thinking
Speaker 1: like that, like, man, do I really want to wear
Speaker 1: all this bullshit? You know what I mean? So do
Speaker 1: you think if you had.
Speaker 3: A couple of million dollars in the bank at this time,
Speaker 3: at what you still be on? You know, I need
Speaker 3: to go get me a Cuban diamond and crusted. I
Speaker 3: need to go get me some kind of fancy watch.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you have to keep up with
Speaker 3: the image of what hip hop is right now?
Speaker 1: Probably not, man, because I'm into different stuff right now,
Speaker 1: and I think people we'll do that sometimes just to
Speaker 1: feel good about yourself, because you do come from a
Speaker 1: place to where at one time you might have got
Speaker 1: laughed at for not having the coolest shoes, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Definitely halfing this. So I think that's
Speaker 1: why Evaness has grown black man. I noticed your shoe
Speaker 1: game is always nice. My shoe game, I feel is pretty.
Speaker 1: I gotta shoes, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that not being able
Speaker 1: to get that stuff when I was little, because we
Speaker 1: all want them Jordans when we.
Speaker 3: Was kids, you feel me, and that the crazy shit
Speaker 3: is when the last time you bought some Jordans.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, though, You get me, how.
Speaker 3: We fiend for shit as youngins got to have it.
Speaker 3: You get me, and at your age right now, could
Speaker 3: you even tell yourself you get me. I could buy
Speaker 3: me some regular shoes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm cool with regular.
Speaker 3: Buy me some regular comfortable Nikes or some regular like.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you the last time I went in
Speaker 3: the store and spent two hundred dollars on a pair
Speaker 3: of Jordans.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna tell you, though. We get so much
Speaker 1: stuff like now, especially like clothes and stuff for free. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I get niggasent all the time. I get so much
Speaker 3: stuff for free every time. Every time you see me
Speaker 3: wearing something, it's probably something somebody thene gave me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know. One of the things is I always
Speaker 1: tell people I didn't start smoking weed till I got fifty.
Speaker 1: I turned fifty right because I found there was a
Speaker 1: better alternative for certain stuff that your body us, you know,
Speaker 1: especially when we start getting them old war injuries, old
Speaker 1: football injuries and stuff, and he's going bad and stuff.
Speaker 1: I just found a weed help a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not into taking pills, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So one of the things I thought about
Speaker 1: one day, I was looking for this watch, right and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, where's my watch at? You know,
Speaker 1: because I haven't had in a long time. And I
Speaker 1: thought about it. I said, Man, I don't lost like fight,
Speaker 1: like eighty thousand dollars in watches. Dog just don't know
Speaker 1: where they at. Might have left them somewhere, might have
Speaker 1: been left in the hotel, somewhere, might have got snow.
Speaker 1: You just don't know because you don't care if that
Speaker 1: stuff is not important. I tell you right now, if
Speaker 1: I had a up a million dollars, bro, I would
Speaker 1: really just make sure that my future was straight that
Speaker 1: I would, you know, I would have, you know, the money,
Speaker 1: definitely in the interest being an account. Probably wouldn't invest
Speaker 1: in nothing that was too risky. I believe in low
Speaker 1: risk stuff right now. You know, I'm not into just
Speaker 1: going out blowing money, but I do believe in investing money.
Speaker 1: I do think that in order to be a good
Speaker 1: stewart with money, you have to let it grow somehow, right,
Speaker 1: you know. But that don't mean investing in risky stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, I would for sure be shooting more movies.
Speaker 1: Now we would have your TV series going. You feel
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It would be just different stuff I
Speaker 1: would be thinking about doing. Man, that's my biggest fear
Speaker 1: because I went broke before Dog. I remember, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: broke before it. Shout out to the homie Gun, I
Speaker 1: ain't you know, I ain't never told nobody this Dog
Speaker 1: the last the one time I went broke, Dog was
Speaker 1: messing with that football league. Dog messing with the football league.
Speaker 1: And I put a lot of money in there. When
Speaker 1: you got parents that don't pay, you know who bailed
Speaker 1: us out, Dog the homie top Dog from Top Dog Entertainment.
Speaker 1: Man Top gave me the money man finish the season,
Speaker 1: up the year and everything.
Speaker 3: Because football shit is costly, especially when you running a
Speaker 3: youth organization. You can get up into the tens and
Speaker 3: twenty thousands with insurances and.
Speaker 1: Then the fifties while you're playing. If you got teams
Speaker 1: of people who's ain't paying, Dog.
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna have a couple of kids that
Speaker 3: can't pay. You know, wherever you gotta wherever you want
Speaker 3: to play your games at on the weekends, you gotta
Speaker 3: pay for the high school. You gotta pay for the reps.
Speaker 3: You gotta pay for insurance, so it can get costly.
Speaker 1: Shoot, I went, yeah, yeah, top dog dude, so from
Speaker 1: top TD bailed.
Speaker 3: Me out though, and to be passionate about so, yeah,
Speaker 3: you gonna uh, you're gonna put your foot in that
Speaker 3: ship and yeah, sometimes your investment can go haywire.
Speaker 1: And that's where you know where your friends is at.
Speaker 1: Dog definitely, because I'm gonna tell you, I remember it
Speaker 1: was a time dog to where I just got fired
Speaker 1: from the publish all this stuff. It hit me all
Speaker 1: the same time I had the football league. Usually it
Speaker 1: usually happens I lost my job at the publishing company. Man,
Speaker 1: me and Glasses was sitting in my living room, Dog
Speaker 1: and I didn't know I was down on my last
Speaker 1: like fifteen hundred dollars. Dog, I said, Dog, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. He said, Man, he said,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be all right. And I remember the
Speaker 1: next day because he was, you know, talking about his stuff.
Speaker 1: The next day, Dog, I think the homie had like
Speaker 1: send me like fifteen thousand dollars. And that's between top
Speaker 1: and Glasses. That's how I kind of got through the
Speaker 1: little stuff. And that just made me in glasses mind
Speaker 1: just like this because he didn't have to do that.
Speaker 1: He pretty he didn't have like that. He was a
Speaker 1: dude that just got it. You know, he had a deal. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he took that money out of his little.
Speaker 3: Budget, except I'm sure the struggle is. That's why I
Speaker 3: said the struggle is really you know, it can present
Speaker 3: itself in unfortunate times, man, and it always comes like that.
Speaker 3: I always say that when something fuck up, then something
Speaker 3: else is finna fuck up before it get better. You know,
Speaker 3: for sure, you just have to be able to withstand
Speaker 3: uh them tough times.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where.
Speaker 3: Knowing how to deal with poverty, you know, coming from
Speaker 3: them type of situations, uh fucking food stamps and low
Speaker 3: income and you know, projects in rough neighborhoods, you kind
Speaker 3: of learn how to get that tough skin.
Speaker 1: Ain't you scared to go back to that door dog?
Speaker 1: And I'm not scared to go back to I just
Speaker 1: think I've done too much stuff to escape there.
Speaker 3: You know, when you go from you know, when you
Speaker 3: go from being at the height, you know, and you know,
Speaker 3: you you're living good and you're driving nice cars and
Speaker 3: you're able to go out and have a nice meal
Speaker 3: and you know, provide for your kids. And then it's
Speaker 3: just like with business would work sometime. Uh you might
Speaker 3: get let go your job, you might get fired. You
Speaker 3: have to be able to know how to uh get
Speaker 3: through tough times.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: You gotta learn how to start cutting back. And and
Speaker 3: I think if you've been a person in struggle before,
Speaker 3: you appreciate when you're able to uh get back into
Speaker 3: a sustainable situation. Uh, you learn how to not do
Speaker 3: shit or no, I ain't doing that, or I ain't
Speaker 3: buying that ship, or I ain't I don't need that,
Speaker 3: or you know, you start really uh considering you know,
Speaker 3: the loan haul.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm at today. You get me. And that's
Speaker 1: why if you notice with me and you talk my
Speaker 1: conversations as always toward the future.
Speaker 3: Yeah gotta do you know, you know, coming like I said,
Speaker 3: coming from you know, six bedroom houses and boats and
Speaker 3: fancy cars and you know, driving hundred thousand dollars cars
Speaker 3: around and you like you said, they got low riders
Speaker 3: and dirt bikes and everything that a motherfucker felt that
Speaker 3: he needed to be sustainable coming from poverty, you get me, Uh.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I ain't broke now, nothing like that.
Speaker 1: But I just know what real money is. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you know you you.
Speaker 3: Right about now, you broke if you ain't got a
Speaker 3: million dollars exactly.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. Like I'm real, regular people.
Speaker 3: Uh people feel to judge you on uh, on your
Speaker 3: income status. You know, as far as being in that
Speaker 3: type of position. We are in the position of limelight
Speaker 3: and celebrity, so we supposed to uh, you know, we're
Speaker 3: supposed to be billionaires. You give me nigga. You niggas
Speaker 3: got a podcast, nigga. H you did movies and records.
Speaker 3: Everything ain't what it's cracked up to be. Like you said,
Speaker 3: I know, I know contracts, and I know numbers, and
Speaker 3: I know real shit and reality is everything ain't what
Speaker 3: it seems.
Speaker 1: Everything special and stuff ain't what it seems. And you
Speaker 1: know what, man, I'm gonna tell you. The cash that
Speaker 1: got money. Anybody in hip hop that's really getting to
Speaker 1: a bag, it's the external stuff that's outside of music
Speaker 1: is getting them that. It may be that trucking company
Speaker 1: that they own on the side, the shoe endorsement that
Speaker 1: they have. It may be the touring they may have
Speaker 1: going the road five times a month, six times a month,
Speaker 1: just to maintain their lifestyle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's record sale shit, and this record shit
Speaker 3: ain't it?
Speaker 1: Ain't it?
Speaker 3: You know you got a thousand, you got a billion
Speaker 3: rappers today because it's looked at as the quick come up.
Speaker 3: You get me, but you count another niggas money and
Speaker 3: you're end up finding out that this road ain't as
Speaker 3: lucrative as you think it it is.
Speaker 1: You get me. So you think Kendrick on the clock
Speaker 1: right now, whether it.
Speaker 3: Was a or not, I haven't really I haven't really
Speaker 3: listened to what's the song push Ups?
Speaker 1: I heard.
Speaker 3: All I heard was him referencing Top and that that's
Speaker 3: really what. That's all it really got to me on
Speaker 3: you know what man and I think and I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't like ship like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 3: It's it could turn from from a from a friendly
Speaker 3: banter disc into some serious uh to some serious uh
Speaker 3: situations because we you know, we know Kendrick and we
Speaker 3: know Top and the situations and you know, with with
Speaker 3: the label or whatever, and so I don't like to
Speaker 3: throw like if we're gonna battle nigga, then me and
Speaker 3: you gonna battle.
Speaker 1: But you remember what I said last week. I said
Speaker 1: Drake was what I said, he was a devil, right,
Speaker 1: And I said, he does stuff like that. Drake is
Speaker 1: the type of dude that if he got a problem
Speaker 1: with you, he's going search. He's gonna compliment your mama
Speaker 1: while you're doing it, just to just to cause a
Speaker 1: little dissension in your household. You feel what I mean
Speaker 1: to where you gonna be lack mama, what you're doing
Speaker 1: taking sides with that nigga. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's that type of dude. He's he's that type of cat.
Speaker 1: And I don't but you have to again, and.
Speaker 3: I particularly myself, wouldn't you know, if I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: at you, I'm gonna get at you. I don't feel
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna have to go uh digging in that
Speaker 3: ditch to justify my get back.
Speaker 1: But that's just me. You figure Drake could do the
Speaker 1: same thing when he was going at it would meet Meal,
Speaker 1: he said. I rode down the street bumping the ad
Speaker 1: and a our Ad was cool with meet Meal at
Speaker 1: the time, but that gave um aar Abs some juice
Speaker 1: in the city. So he started automatically siding up with Drake.
Speaker 1: Over I mentioned my name, I'm gonna slide up under him.
Speaker 1: Now you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, but you know, all is fair when in
Speaker 3: war you get me like.
Speaker 1: The fact that he brought Top's name up into it,
Speaker 1: because you know, the one thing I want to say
Speaker 1: is man. Like I said earlier, I had the pleasure
Speaker 1: of being around him though, real early when they were
Speaker 1: developing that stuff. I remember when par six would even
Speaker 1: playing them their songs. Jay Rocker had to deal with
Speaker 1: with Warner brothers. They wouldn't even messing with them like that, right,
Speaker 1: And I remember Top grinding Dog like his grind was relentless. Dog.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of times dog to wear them
Speaker 1: dudes just pretty much jumped on his back, Dog, and
Speaker 1: he thugged his way through that stuff. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Everything they definitely got they deserved. They worked
Speaker 1: hard for that dog. It wasn't easy dog, and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about it was a good damn near a decade
Speaker 1: of struggle. Dog. Before all that stuff even saw the surface,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I saw them little dudes
Speaker 1: go from like little kids, Dog back there eating them
Speaker 1: chicken two men. You feel what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: like what they've achieved together was phenomenal. You can't do nothing.
Speaker 1: You almost a hater if you don't like that story.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. The homies from the hood
Speaker 1: actually make it big, you know what I mean. Niggas
Speaker 1: try to do this music stuff and then don't succeed, mayeh.
Speaker 1: Like I said, there is no there's no.
Speaker 3: Fairness. Uh, there's no cordial you know when it comes
Speaker 3: to dissing or disc records. Uh, it's always been accepted
Speaker 3: in hip hop, whether it go from a a funny
Speaker 3: comedic uh disc record, we're just going back at each other,
Speaker 3: you know, or it gets to the point where niggas
Speaker 3: are shooting at each other. It's always been here and
Speaker 3: hip hop, it's always been here as far as different
Speaker 3: sides and different neighborhoods and you know East Side against
Speaker 3: the West Side or or Queens against Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Or all that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, it's it's always been there.
Speaker 3: And that's like I said before before a rap uh nigga.
Speaker 3: We associated with high schools, our football team from this
Speaker 3: side of the block, don't like your football team. We
Speaker 3: might get into some fights after the game, or it's
Speaker 3: just it's it's not liking the motherfucker has always been here. Uh,
Speaker 3: the way you deal with it. Some people, you know,
Speaker 3: say they shit and go away peacefully. Like I said,
Speaker 3: some niggas end up shooting at each other and somebody
Speaker 3: get hurt.
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's just the way you deal with it.
Speaker 1: I guess you know what. I was talking with D
Speaker 1: one online earlier and he was talking about how beef
Speaker 1: is not good for hip hop. Somebody could wind up
Speaker 1: get hurt. I had to ask him. I said, Bro,
Speaker 1: when have you ever seen two artists actually go at it?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about now. You may see Entourage's clash if anything,
Speaker 1: but you go very rarely see the two main artists,
Speaker 1: two main artists go at it like even when And
Speaker 1: he said, still, come on, you know too much about
Speaker 1: hip hop to say. I said, bro, honestly answer that.
Speaker 1: Outside of you know the Wu Tang clean text up
Speaker 1: Joe Budens at one time, you might have little TIFFs
Speaker 1: he in there. You know, you had the fifty and
Speaker 1: John Rudge stuff. But I don't think it was John
Speaker 1: Rudis stab fifty. You feel what I'm saying, right, It
Speaker 1: was an entourage. It is always gonna be the entourage's class.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna never be the Raptors. Dog, Kendrick and
Speaker 1: Drake got way too much paper. You think they will
Speaker 1: ever be around each other's a comference. There's too many
Speaker 1: buffers in between them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like like you said, the beef ha come
Speaker 3: between the entourages the disc records to just go to
Speaker 3: the artists, you feel.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Dog, It's like, ain't nobody sitting
Speaker 1: up here two rich people? You think you out there
Speaker 1: boxing somebody.
Speaker 3: I mean, but that's like what I said, If it
Speaker 3: comes down to just beef, then let's just say fuck
Speaker 3: the records and we might as well schedule a fight
Speaker 3: or a hookup and let's get it on. Because we
Speaker 3: hate each other that much. It's deep than just It's
Speaker 3: deeper than just the motherfucking words on paper. We literally
Speaker 3: got a genuine like, fuck your neighborhood, Fuck my neighborhood, nigga,
Speaker 3: we got a beef. Fuck this rap ship.
Speaker 1: Like, let me ask you this, bro. You know, Kendrick
Speaker 1: ain't the biggest cat in the world and Drake got
Speaker 1: just got a little size on him. If they was
Speaker 1: getting scrap, who do you think of win that scratch?
Speaker 1: It wouldn't happen.
Speaker 3: You might as well say Trump and Biden gonna get
Speaker 3: in the ring and fight it out. It don't happen
Speaker 3: with people like that said. It don't happen like that.
Speaker 3: You just you just you're just stirring up the pot
Speaker 3: right now. You like to stir up pots for a minute.
Speaker 3: You like to do that, you know, damn well, that's
Speaker 3: the biggest hypothetical question you could ever.
Speaker 1: Don't matter. So you.
Speaker 3: As a billion dollar nigga, you find to go fight
Speaker 3: the owner of xon or you feel you get me
Speaker 3: when you you you know what I'm saying, because you
Speaker 3: putting him in that same category. He's a millionaire, rich
Speaker 3: motherfucker who's got statuses and Nobel peace prizes.
Speaker 1: You ain't got gonna know he got a politit pride,
Speaker 1: he don't hilde he.
Speaker 3: Got no bail, peace prizes and ship And you go
Speaker 3: get a nigga fitted Like I said, your bodies will
Speaker 3: call up Trump and bided, like, nigga, what your niggas
Speaker 3: want to fucking debate for old Chattel seven for won't
Speaker 3: you niggas just go to Vegacy, get the rig and
Speaker 3: see which one of you old niggas can knock each
Speaker 3: other out and whoever it becomes the president fucking.
Speaker 1: You know, Trump will beat Biden's Trump. I see Trump.
Speaker 3: Talking washed this nigga still man, This nigga still to
Speaker 3: get your ass and a hot pot of fucking gub
Speaker 3: ball with his ship.
Speaker 1: Gotta beat Drake. Drake seemed like the type of dude
Speaker 1: that like the seword fight or something. What's that ship
Speaker 1: would have had a.
Speaker 3: Sewerd nigga said he wants to he want to be,
Speaker 3: he wanted to want the funnies and ship on the fence.
Speaker 1: Dude takes six places.
Speaker 3: Like I said, is it's it's good hypothetical banter for
Speaker 3: like I said, hip hop people. People are enjoying it because,
Speaker 3: like I said, it's too it's too big artists. It
Speaker 3: ain't like it's the two niggas from around the corner
Speaker 3: and ship who you know, uh dissing each other or whatever.
Speaker 3: It's two major artists, and I think people just are
Speaker 3: intrigued with, uh, these niggas taking that route. People say
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's it's needed in hip hop. It
Speaker 3: keeps it keeps the friendly competition up. You know, if
Speaker 3: niggas feel like I'm the greatest, then hey, ain't nothing
Speaker 3: wrong with it.
Speaker 1: Man, You but you know what the dog the thing is.
Speaker 1: I said, I think Ross got the best record so far.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been paying attention like that.
Speaker 1: I haven't listened. He got a record out to Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Ross record hard Buddy too. Yeah. So I don't, like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know what it's for.
Speaker 3: Drakes record ain't bad. Oh man, you see the I
Speaker 3: mean too too. I mean a year ago they was
Speaker 3: making records and videos together.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't understand the I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't understand what happened. Really, I don't it abstuitely
Speaker 3: be You know what, man, this whole thing could definitely
Speaker 3: be the biggest pup listening because them, them is two
Speaker 3: niggas that got a thousand records together. And then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you calling him white boy, and he
Speaker 3: calling you your mansion is fake, and you leash your
Speaker 3: plane and and when other people gotta needed, they got
Speaker 3: to peel the fucking rapper off and all that. I
Speaker 3: don't want staying what the banter is. Like I said
Speaker 3: last that's what he said about Roster. He said, you
Speaker 3: gotta peel that sticker off when when other people need
Speaker 3: to rid the plane.
Speaker 1: Well, these niggas a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying it's it's you don't hear anything
Speaker 3: to the level of I'm getting on the plane and
Speaker 3: headed to Miami, nigga, and we can get them up
Speaker 3: when I see.
Speaker 1: If you're a rapper today, you can't never develop. You
Speaker 1: know how, When we was in the industry, we were young,
Speaker 1: we developed close relationships that will never be broken. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: these niggas can't trust each other because they find out
Speaker 1: because I don't understand. I've been friends with Premiere and
Speaker 1: Scarface and Spice and a gang of niggas for thirty
Speaker 1: years and never had an issue. I'm gonna put a
Speaker 1: nigga on a record today and then three months from
Speaker 1: now diss him on the record because what what happened?
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 3: Like what y'all can't have a phone call and talk
Speaker 3: about what happened. That's what I'm saying. You niggas was
Speaker 3: just on songs and videos together, a gang of them.
Speaker 3: You niggas got a gang of songs together.
Speaker 1: Ross said that you know what's the what's the boy's
Speaker 1: name on the other rapper. They said that Drake put
Speaker 1: a ceasing desistant on French Montana's record. He had a
Speaker 1: record with French Montana. M I guess Drake put a
Speaker 1: cease and desist on.
Speaker 3: It or whatever because you didn't do what pay me
Speaker 3: or you didn't clear it. Yeah, okay, that's business. Nigga
Speaker 3: ain't no personal vendetta. But Rose took it personal. He says, Ah,
Speaker 3: why you take it personal? When are you French Montana?
Speaker 3: Is it your record? Why did you? Why did you
Speaker 3: this Ross's artist? I guess okay, I didn't. Y'all didn't,
Speaker 3: so what you expect me to be friendly on everybody's
Speaker 3: fucking shit? And I'm a businessman, y'all using my ship.
Speaker 3: I need to get paid, especially if it's a nigga.
Speaker 3: I don't fuck with Really, I fuck with you. That
Speaker 3: don't mean I fuck with that nigga.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a point.
Speaker 3: It don't mean I fuck with me and you cool.
Speaker 1: I don't like this nigga.
Speaker 3: I don't like this nigga who looked like me. His
Speaker 3: nigga trying to beat me. He light skinned, did like me.
Speaker 3: He trying to have little SINGI songs like me. I
Speaker 3: don't like this nigga, So now I don't want to
Speaker 3: clear it. I need my business handle. You can't get
Speaker 3: mad at the nigga and turn around and go okay,
Speaker 3: fuck you. You didn't clear the shit. So now I'm
Speaker 3: gonna join the disc bandwagon. That ain't that ain't business.
Speaker 3: That's like, that's like some hurt. That's like some butt
Speaker 3: hurt shit like I'm hurt. You didn't want to get
Speaker 3: on the record, man, I don't you know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, it might have been more than that,
Speaker 1: but ros's going on. That's why I said, we don't know.
Speaker 1: Even talked about bird Man. He said, you let bird
Speaker 1: Man get four max and get full clothed ross. Motherfucker
Speaker 1: don't shit funny as hell though, And like I said,
Speaker 1: you who knows what? I don't know? You know?
Speaker 3: But is it to the Is it to the point,
Speaker 3: like I said, because I know how niggas get down
Speaker 3: over here, and when niggas got beef, nigga, you liable
Speaker 3: to catch it. Bullet shit, you was about to catch
Speaker 3: a bullet hole through your window or some ship like that.
Speaker 1: We got beef.
Speaker 3: We beef over here because we have the cripping blood
Speaker 3: aspect when we beef.
Speaker 1: Okay, all that.
Speaker 3: Shit, you talking foreclosures and you're this fake and you're
Speaker 3: a white boy and all that shit. Are you ready
Speaker 3: to jump on the plane and get them up? Is
Speaker 3: it that serious? If it ain't, man, get this motherfucking
Speaker 3: ship up out of here.
Speaker 1: Well, Roth said, when you see me, if you if
Speaker 1: you got a problem with it, when you see.
Speaker 3: Me, chicken, how you're gonna have ten niggas with you
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have twenty. Like I said, let's be
Speaker 3: let's be some real men. You gotta issue nigga. Let's
Speaker 3: get them up. If you want to be, if you
Speaker 3: want to be, if you want to be rapping and
Speaker 3: dissing for streams, then okay, just keep it, just keep
Speaker 3: it real. We're gonna make a couple of records. We're
Speaker 3: gonna make a couple of records. We're gonna talk shit
Speaker 3: about each other, and then we all gonna sit back
Speaker 3: and pop bottles. Are aces of spades while the whole
Speaker 3: fucking country streams, all this shit and all the money
Speaker 3: is going in our pockets.
Speaker 1: You get We gotta find angles to this shit. We
Speaker 1: gotta find.
Speaker 3: Angles to this ship. So if I start dissing you
Speaker 3: and you start dissing me, what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna want to hear this shit.
Speaker 3: Right, They're gonna be anticipating the records or I can't
Speaker 3: wait till that new disc record come out. I can't
Speaker 3: wait till Ross's response come out. I can't wait till
Speaker 3: Drake's response come out. And all the while they waiting,
Speaker 3: everybody chinging up, chining up, chining up. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like I said, we come from we come from beefing.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: We come from beefing with me and quick Hat. That
Speaker 3: was beefing.
Speaker 1: You get me. What what Cube and Easy in them
Speaker 1: had that was beefing? You get me.
Speaker 3: It's like, nigga, fuck this rap shit. If I catch
Speaker 3: you in the streets, nigga, were finna get down?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hope, you know what, that's the last thing. But
Speaker 1: they're not finna. They're not finna do that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're not finna do that. That's why I
Speaker 1: said this is friendly banter. Nigga, I'm gonna say something
Speaker 1: about you, You're gonna say something about me, and then
Speaker 1: three four months from now, we're gonna come together and
Speaker 1: sit down and have a glass of champagne and go
Speaker 1: we're cool. Now. Yeah, that's pretty much. But it was
Speaker 1: sop upper. Did you see this stuff that don't happen
Speaker 1: to the NBA? Young boy dog. He's in some serious
Speaker 1: trouble man, No, man, I haven't been keeping up with Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got him man in Utah of all places for
Speaker 1: larger skill prescription fraud. Well he he.
Speaker 3: He uh. When he got released, one of his conditions
Speaker 3: was that he go to Utah because his manager was like,
Speaker 3: you know, we need to keep him out of trouble
Speaker 3: and all this kind of crazy shit. So the condition
Speaker 3: that they let him out, what if not to be mistaken,
Speaker 3: is why they went to Utah.
Speaker 1: Well, let me read this.
Speaker 3: There ain't got no hood, you know, if he doesn't
Speaker 3: have any type of involvement in it's Utah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me you talk out some hood. Motherfucker's right, but.
Speaker 3: He's not affiliated what like he was in Baton Rouge
Speaker 3: in his spots.
Speaker 1: Well, he's steal into something note because check this out.
Speaker 1: This is what happened. A rapper who is serving house
Speaker 1: arrests in Utah was arrested for his alleged involvement in
Speaker 1: a large scale prescriptions fraud ring in Cash County, NBA.
Speaker 1: Young boy who's real name is Contrail Deshaun Gordon, was
Speaker 1: booked Tuesday and faces sixty three charges. The alleged defenses
Speaker 1: are a possession of a dangerous weapon by a restricted person,
Speaker 1: second degree failing, the one count, pattering enough unlawful activity,
Speaker 1: second degree failing me one count identity fraud, third degree
Speaker 1: failing the twenty counts forgery, third degree failing the twenty
Speaker 1: counts procuring attempting to procure a drug prescription Class A misdemeanor,
Speaker 1: twenty counts, Possession of controlled substance Class eight misdemeanor one count.
Speaker 1: According to the arrest report, the twenty four year old
Speaker 1: Golden was part of a scheme to fraugarly obtained prometheesene
Speaker 1: with codeine, which, according to the National Library of Medicine,
Speaker 1: is mixed with sprite and or alcohol to make It's
Speaker 1: nothing new.
Speaker 3: He's in Utah and they then probably ran out of
Speaker 3: the lean and they need they need to procure some
Speaker 3: more well, so they.
Speaker 1: Say they got him. The police say Gardon and many
Speaker 1: other individuals who were not named in the documents tried
Speaker 1: to obtain the prescribed cost suppressant for multiple pharmacies in
Speaker 1: Cash County. According to police, Gaudon called in a prescription
Speaker 1: supposedly for a seventy four year old woman to a
Speaker 1: pharmacy in him in September. They said he claimed to
Speaker 1: be a physician in the Provo area using an actual
Speaker 1: valid DEA number NPI number, another identification for the real position.
Speaker 1: The pharmacists noticed that the phone number did not match
Speaker 1: the number of said doctor this clinic, so they called
Speaker 1: the doctor directly. The doctor said he did not write
Speaker 1: a prescription for a woman by her name, and added
Speaker 1: that this sort of thing happened several times a day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody working in the doctor's office then slid the
Speaker 3: negative numbers so he can call in and and and order,
Speaker 3: you know how. The doctor or called into the pharmacy
Speaker 3: and be like, yeah, I'm calling in the calling a
Speaker 3: prescription for They do it all the time.
Speaker 1: And they said, so that's what he did, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's he was arrested by It doesn't say all. They
Speaker 1: don't say if he was a secret service. So he's
Speaker 1: gonna do some time on this man, you know.
Speaker 3: Because well he's he's had, he's been having long, extensive
Speaker 3: cases and situations.
Speaker 1: He already fighting the federal guns. Jar. My dude is
Speaker 1: one of those.
Speaker 3: You know, you always have one of those dudes who
Speaker 3: come out the neighborhood who's just he just can't get right.
Speaker 3: You feel me, always in trouble, always the police. I
Speaker 3: really don't care about it. And when you take a
Speaker 3: dude like that and you put a gang of money
Speaker 3: in his hand and a gang of motherfuckers, they really
Speaker 3: become uncontrollable. It's gonna take a while probably for him
Speaker 3: to mature out of the out of the state that he's.
Speaker 3: Like I said, man, when you come from that walk
Speaker 3: of life, man, it's hard. And when you put shit
Speaker 3: come on. My nigga's young. My nigga got money, he
Speaker 3: got fans up the ass that support his music, and
Speaker 3: he's just reckless. And then when you're able to get
Speaker 3: away with shit doing reckless shit, it don't make you
Speaker 3: get any better.
Speaker 1: It just makes you it worse.
Speaker 3: Until he's able to until he's able to understand you
Speaker 3: get me until he's able to understand the position he's
Speaker 3: in and that you got to grow up, dude.
Speaker 1: This is crazy, and these girls go telling them because
Speaker 1: check this out. They said that similar incidents occurred to
Speaker 1: other pharmacies in Cash County, and police said two women
Speaker 1: picked up the prescribed drugs during one instance they were
Speaker 1: taking and detained as part of the investigation and later
Speaker 1: arrested for their alleged involvement in the prescription fraud ring.
Speaker 1: The Cash County Sheriff's Office said the vehicle the woman
Speaker 1: arrived then to pick up the drugs was registered to Golden.
Speaker 1: That's the NB A young boy then later his business
Speaker 1: manager contacted the Sheriff's office about getting the vehicle out
Speaker 1: of Empound. The officer asked us to speak the regular
Speaker 1: to Golden. While speaking to gold And the arresting officer
Speaker 1: said he heard someone possibly golf and suggests asking about
Speaker 1: the prescriptions that they picked up. So he wasn't tripping
Speaker 1: on the bras he was worried about that.
Speaker 3: I need that lane flying the girls him to Utah.
Speaker 3: They coming to kick it his girlfriends or whatever they are,
Speaker 3: and they probably like, yeah, let's get these let's get
Speaker 3: these prescriptions. Let's get these prescriptions somebody. Like I said,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's you know what he's getting put on
Speaker 3: blast because he's NBA young boy. But niggas do that
Speaker 3: ship all day. And even if they they getting fake scripts,
Speaker 3: they get man niggas is. Niggas is doing lean like
Speaker 3: it ain't ship.
Speaker 1: Man. I'm gonna tell you, bro, it's a drug epidemic
Speaker 1: right now. Hip hop with that lean, with that lean dog,
Speaker 1: with all that stuff. Man, it's pretty much heroin, bro.
Speaker 1: All of these kids are on heroind I don't care
Speaker 1: what they call. I don't care if they're taking an
Speaker 1: appeal formed dog. I don't care if they However, they're
Speaker 1: doing this all heroin dog. So it's it's.
Speaker 3: Like I said, we it's kind of you know, fucked
Speaker 3: up when you have the vices of influence. I mean,
Speaker 3: because we used to do it. You're telling nigga, hey,
Speaker 3: get you some gin and juice. We're telling nigga pick
Speaker 3: up a foldy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: When I get it with that. Like I said, it's
Speaker 3: it's our generation. Though this is not our generation. They're
Speaker 3: different than us. Forty ounces and fucking you know, weed,
Speaker 3: smoke nor your Your favorite rapper is telling you the
Speaker 3: pop a percocet. Your favorite rapper is telling you that
Speaker 3: we sip and lean. Your favorite rapper is telling you,
Speaker 3: all my bitches do coke.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: My nigga right now is telling you on the popular
Speaker 3: song right now with with with k Dot, all my
Speaker 3: bitches do coke. You get me. I'm trying to let
Speaker 3: you know, nigga, is it's okay if you want to
Speaker 3: fuck with me, you want to be one of my
Speaker 3: holes or my bitches A nigga, this is all my
Speaker 3: bitches do dope, all of them. I might even pop
Speaker 3: a perkoset or whatever the shit they do.
Speaker 1: You get me. It's it's their generation.
Speaker 3: That's why we got so many youngsters dying, you know,
Speaker 3: popping pills. You know, we got the youngsters dying off
Speaker 3: of the lean, you know, all of it. Because again,
Speaker 3: your favorite rapper is telling you it's okay if you
Speaker 3: want to do some coke, all my bitches do it.
Speaker 3: It's crazy that shit that's supposed to tell you right now,
Speaker 3: that's the it's it's accepted, it's popular. Come on, man,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm your favorite. You damn sure. I ain't looking
Speaker 3: at me bad are you You ain't You ain't nowhere going, man,
Speaker 3: This motherfucker telling you to do some dope. He telling
Speaker 3: you if you want to belong to the anade, you
Speaker 3: gonna pop you a peal or snort you something.
Speaker 1: Because that's the way I like my bitches. I like
Speaker 1: them high and like man like what.
Speaker 3: I like them high and zonked out. That's the only
Speaker 3: way they gonna be able to stab my motherfucking ass
Speaker 3: if I get them, if I get them high up
Speaker 3: out of existence.
Speaker 1: On that note, we're about to get up out of here, man.
Speaker 1: But we in Atlanta next week like Effect Podcast.
Speaker 3: Conference, and you say, all my bitches due coke, all
Speaker 3: my bitches due to.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be out there and ladies out there and
Speaker 1: here they performed that song live like ladies.
Speaker 3: You ain't got to do no dope. You ain't got
Speaker 3: to do no coke. You fine, be natural, you know,
Speaker 3: be beautiful. You we call you a cluckhead if you
Speaker 3: do it dope.
Speaker 1: Again. We'll be at the Black Effect Podcast special next week.
Speaker 3: But what we call what we call the nigger back
Speaker 3: in the days that did dope, I don't get up.
Speaker 1: A cluck there's a cluck these dudes.
Speaker 3: Let these niggas fuck you up and tell you that
Speaker 3: that ship is cool. We look at your ass like
Speaker 3: you're a goddamn idiot. Clucker back you.
Speaker 1: That ship ain't here, that ship is not It wouldn't
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't cool doing that cocaine. You would get bagged.
Speaker 3: Trying to make being a cluckhead cool and ship to
Speaker 3: he's cool.
Speaker 1: He wanted this dope so bad, jail, he said, I
Speaker 1: need my lean.
Speaker 3: And I need my lead, and I need all my
Speaker 3: bitches zunked out. I just need him sitting in the
Speaker 3: corner like this when I come home.
Speaker 1: Yo, shake us out. Next week if you're in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Area, Yeah, we're in at yl Man Holland.
Speaker 1: Yip. You know, shoot up to the festival and all that.
Speaker 1: We'll be out there, pull up bonus and were gone.
Speaker 1: That's sixty minutes, bron.
Speaker 3: That nig said, all my bitches, all my bitches doigga.
Speaker 1: Well. That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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