WEBVTT - Kaspar Hauser Came to Town 

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<v Speaker 1>On May twenty sixth, eighteen twenty six, a cobbler named

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<v Speaker 1>Georg Leonard Weike was walking through the town of Nuremberg.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though it was the afternoon, the city was sparse,

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<v Speaker 1>almost abandoned. It was a holiday, and many of the

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<v Speaker 1>town's residents were off in the countryside enjoying the nice

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<v Speaker 1>spring weather. But something caught Vicman's eye as he walked

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<v Speaker 1>a young man, maybe a teenager of sixteen or seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>stumbling awkwardly down a nearby hill. The boy was stocky,

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<v Speaker 1>with an unusual lumbering gait and blue eyes that seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to Vicman almost vacant. The boy shouted a phrase that

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<v Speaker 1>can be translated to hey lad, a casual greeting that

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<v Speaker 1>masters would use to greet their apprentices. Oddly casual for

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager to use toward an adult man in his fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>which Bekman was. The boy also called out the name

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<v Speaker 1>of a shrew, and generously Vicmann agreed to help the

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<v Speaker 1>strange vagrant boy to his destination. It soon became apparent

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<v Speaker 1>that this boy only knew a few phrases, which he

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<v Speaker 1>repeated over and over. One of those phrases was I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a cavalry man like my father was.

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<v Speaker 1>But where had this boy come from? A wandering stranger

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<v Speaker 1>who stumbled out of the forest and into Nuremberg. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>Vickman brought him to the police station and more of

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<v Speaker 1>the boy's story would emerge. The boy's name was Casper Hauser,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to him and the letters he had been

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<v Speaker 1>carrying on his person, he had lived his entire life

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<v Speaker 1>up until this point in a solitary cell, raised entirely

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<v Speaker 1>alone in isolation, A man wearing a mask had given

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<v Speaker 1>him water and bread every day. On occasion, the water

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<v Speaker 1>would be more bitter than normal, and casper Hauser would

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<v Speaker 1>awaken the next day to find that his hair and

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<v Speaker 1>nails had been cut and his straw had been changed.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the extent of his human interaction. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the difference between night and day. The story was astonishing,

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<v Speaker 1>and almost immediately casper Hauser became famous around Europe, a strange,

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<v Speaker 1>savage boy raised in conditions of such enthralling cruelty, under

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<v Speaker 1>such mysterious conditions. Philosophers from the seventeenth century on had

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<v Speaker 1>become fascinated by legends and stories of enph savages or

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<v Speaker 1>children who were raised by animals. For what those stories

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<v Speaker 1>might reveal about humanity? What was it that made us human?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it something inherent inside of man? Or was it

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<v Speaker 1>something learned? There were also religious implications to these stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Would a child raised by animals understand or know God?

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<v Speaker 1>Would he be innocent of all of the sins of man?

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<v Speaker 2>For ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Childlike beyond the salaciousness of his alleged origin. From the

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<v Speaker 1>moment Casper Hauser stumbled down the hill into Nuremberg, he

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<v Speaker 1>became a symbol for the big philosophical questions that had

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<v Speaker 1>been captivating Europe for a century, a living experiment. As

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Kitchen wrote in his book, Casper Hauser Europe's child quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Here was a blank screen on which could be projected

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<v Speaker 1>the fantasies of those with whom he came into close contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Here was another of those wild children who people ancient mythology,

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<v Speaker 1>and who had appeared infrequently in Europe since the fourteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>and had excited philosophers and medical men to speculate on

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of men. But of course, given just how

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<v Speaker 1>salacious and mysterious this foundling child was, there was also

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<v Speaker 1>going to be rumors. Why had this boy been hidden

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<v Speaker 1>away for so long and under such extreme conditions, If

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<v Speaker 1>not because those in power had a reason for doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like something out of a fairy tale, that

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<v Speaker 1>a lost, orphaned child might be something more than he

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<v Speaker 1>first appears. But the rumors began swirling. Casper Hauser, they said,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just a lost child.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a lost prince.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Danish worts and this is noble blood. It's a fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that everybody has probably had at least once,

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<v Speaker 1>a fantasy popularized by Sigmund Freud, that your parents secretly

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<v Speaker 1>adopted you, and that your real parents are wealthy, powerful royal.

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<v Speaker 1>And so maybe it's inevitable that when a boy stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>into Nuremberg under mysterious circumstances, the questions would begin swirling

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<v Speaker 1>about who he really was and where he came from.

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<v Speaker 1>When Casper Hauser first appeared, his walk unsteady and his

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<v Speaker 1>language limited, he carried with him two letters. The first

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<v Speaker 1>was purportedly written by his mother, announcing that his name

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<v Speaker 1>was Casper, he was born on April thirtieth, eighteen twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>and that his father, now deceased, had been a cavalryman

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<v Speaker 1>of the sixth Regiment. The second letter was from Casper

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<v Speaker 1>Hauser's mysterious case caretaker or jailer. The masked man that

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<v Speaker 1>Casper recalled had brought him bread and water. The letter

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<v Speaker 1>was addressed to Captain Vaughan Wessening, commander of the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>Cavalry Regiment. It read quote, I am a poor laborer

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<v Speaker 1>with ten children of my own. I have enough to

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<v Speaker 1>do just to keep them alive. His mother asked me

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up the boy. I raised him as a Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>and since eighteen twelve I have never let him go

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<v Speaker 1>a step away from the house. So no one knows

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<v Speaker 1>where he has been brought up, and he himself does

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<v Speaker 1>not know the name of my house nor of the place.

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<v Speaker 1>You might ask him, but he can't tell you. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone trying to figure out where Casper had come

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<v Speaker 1>from would be hitting a dead end.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 1>The letter continued, saying that Captain van Wessoning could take

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<v Speaker 1>the boy into his regiment or quote hang him by

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<v Speaker 1>the chimney, the sort of cruelty one might expect from

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<v Speaker 1>a man who kept a child imprisoned in a cell

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<v Speaker 1>his entire life. When the people of Nuremberg asked Casper

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<v Speaker 1>more questions, trying to get any more information from him,

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<v Speaker 1>he only repeated, I want to be a cavalryman as

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<v Speaker 1>my father was.

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<v Speaker 2>Or don't know. He could also say horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Casper was delivered to von Wessening's stable, but the captain

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<v Speaker 1>was understandably confused and put off. A servant offered Casper

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<v Speaker 1>beer and meat, but he refused. He did, however, accept

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<v Speaker 1>water and bread He was brought to the police station,

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<v Speaker 1>where they determined that Casper was able to write his

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<v Speaker 1>own name and had basic familiarity with Christian prayers. His

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<v Speaker 1>clothing was awkwardly sown and ill fitting. His boots were

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<v Speaker 1>too small. The initial K was sewn into his jacket

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<v Speaker 1>and his handkerchief. Among his personal effects were a rosary,

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<v Speaker 1>a worn out key, a prayer book, a few religious tracts, and,

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<v Speaker 1>most odd of all, allegedly a folded envelope of paper

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<v Speaker 1>containing a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of gold dust.

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<v Speaker 1>But Casper had no papers, and given that he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>reply meaningfully to any questions, it was assumed he was

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<v Speaker 1>a vagrant and he was sent to prison, although it

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<v Speaker 1>was specified that given his strange circumstances, he would be

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<v Speaker 1>locked up with quote decent prisoners instead of the other

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<v Speaker 1>random vagrants and beggars. Casper Hauser spent two months in

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<v Speaker 1>prison in the castle in Nuremberg, during which time he

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<v Speaker 1>became a tourist attraction, with visitors stopping by in order

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<v Speaker 1>to see the intriguing foundling. Raised in isolation, Casper seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be making remarkable progress with regards to his physical condition,

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<v Speaker 1>where he had been awkwardly lumbering. When he first appeared

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly barely able to walk, he had been able to

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<v Speaker 1>climb more than ninety steps up to his cell without

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. Gradually, more details about Casper's life would come

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<v Speaker 1>to light, although notably Casper had no ill will toward

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<v Speaker 1>his captor nor anger about how he was raised. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>every morning when he woke up, he would find a

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<v Speaker 1>loaf of black bread and a pitcher of water. He

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<v Speaker 1>had only two wooden horse toys and one wooden dog

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<v Speaker 1>toy to play with, and a wooden lidded container that

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<v Speaker 1>he used as a commode.

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<v Speaker 2>His door was bolted.

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<v Speaker 1>On the outside, and wood was piled against the room's

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<v Speaker 1>small windows, so that he never saw sunlight, never learn

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between night and day. One day, Casper had

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<v Speaker 1>been given a sheet of paper and a pencil, and

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<v Speaker 1>his anonymous captor reached into the dungeon room to teach

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<v Speaker 1>Casper how to write.

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<v Speaker 2>His own name.

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<v Speaker 1>He also taught him how to walk a few steps,

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<v Speaker 1>and taught him the simple phrases to repeat that he

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<v Speaker 1>had said when he had first arrived in Nuremberg. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Casper Hauser, approximately sixteen years old, was released into

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<v Speaker 1>the wilds of human civilization. The people of Nuremberg could

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<v Speaker 1>barely believe how cruel and strange this boy's saga had been.

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<v Speaker 2>The president of the Bavarian.

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<v Speaker 1>Court of Appeals, a man named Anselm von Feuerbach, took

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<v Speaker 1>a particular interest in investigating the case, and the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Nuremberg itself formally adopted Casper Hauser, with donations raised

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for his care and schooling. Casper was placed

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<v Speaker 1>in the household of a man named Friedrich Dahmer, a

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<v Speaker 1>schoolmaster and philosopher. Dahmer, understandably fascinated by Casper, began to

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<v Speaker 1>treat him like a science experiment. Casper Hauser's physical condition

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<v Speaker 1>continued to improve. He allegedly grew two inches in a

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<v Speaker 1>single month, and according to Dahmer, his senses were astonishingly acute.

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<v Speaker 1>He had an animal like ability to see in the dark,

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<v Speaker 1>to make out impossibly faint sounds, and to taste if

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<v Speaker 1>his water had been diluted with even one drop of

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<v Speaker 1>something else. Despite attempts to feed him a more varied diet,

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<v Speaker 1>Casper only wanted bread and water, and only after a

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<v Speaker 1>few months was he able to eat small amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>meat occasionally he would suffer extreme convulsions. Casper continued to

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<v Speaker 1>learn rom remarkably fast. Soon he was able to write

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<v Speaker 1>and speak, identifying jokes even and Dahmer discovered he had

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<v Speaker 1>a talent for drawing. Dahmer was also interested in using

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<v Speaker 1>Casper for homeopathic experiments and experiments with animal magnetism, a

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<v Speaker 1>popular idea in nineteenth century Germany. He was given homeopathic tinctures,

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<v Speaker 1>some of which made him sick, and he was frequently

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<v Speaker 1>waved over with magnets and fed magnetized water, although personally

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure exactly what they were trying to accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>with that. As Kitchen wrote, quote, he was used as

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<v Speaker 1>a guinea pig by cranks and amateurs who gained nothing

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<v Speaker 1>from their experiments. He was so frightened of these experiments

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<v Speaker 1>that it was impossible to tell whether the often violent

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<v Speaker 1>reactions were caused by the homeopathic medicines or by sheer terror.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was ill, the medicines he was given made

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<v Speaker 1>him feel worse, and it seemed to him that the

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<v Speaker 1>medical profession devoted its efforts towards torturing their unfortunate subjects

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<v Speaker 1>and making the healthy sick. End all the while the

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<v Speaker 1>mystery of his origin and his true identity continued to

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<v Speaker 1>be the center of conversations around Nuremberg and all across Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Casper Hauser, the abused, imprisoned child who escaped his mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>confinement with an innocent, almost animal like naivete, and who

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<v Speaker 1>now among humanity, was making enormous strides of progress. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how could the writers resist?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he really just.

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<v Speaker 1>A random foundling? It seemed unlikely. Why had there been

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<v Speaker 1>such an effort to keep him hidden if not for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Casper, howse us was secretly someone important.

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<v Speaker 1>Consider the fact that he had been confined and imprisoned,

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<v Speaker 1>but otherwise kept in remarkably good health and in hygienic conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>No masked man had been identified, and there were no

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<v Speaker 1>leads as to where Casper Hauser had actually come from,

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<v Speaker 1>despite large rewards from police for any information. Surely people

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<v Speaker 1>whispered that was a sign that this was the work

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<v Speaker 1>of rich and powerful people, able to cover their tracks

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<v Speaker 1>so completely that they would never be caught. And despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he had barely been able to write

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<v Speaker 1>his name, Casper Hauser was by this point fluent and

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<v Speaker 1>quick to learn. There seemed to be something innately extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>about him. This was no ordinary boy.

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<v Speaker 2>People believed.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed obvious that he was someone special, someone noble,

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<v Speaker 1>someone royal even, But why had he been imprisoned and

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<v Speaker 1>hidden away? And by who? And if he wasn't merely

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<v Speaker 1>Casper Hauser, then who was he. Charles, the Grand Duke

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<v Speaker 1>of Boden hadn't been happy about the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>had to marry Stephanie de Bornay, but Napoleon's France was

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<v Speaker 1>becoming more powerful, and Stephanie was Napoleon's de facto adopted daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>a relative of Napoleon's wife Josephine, and so the Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Duke married her, and despite the fact that the two

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really get along, they managed to have five children.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately for them, none of their surviving children were male heirs,

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<v Speaker 1>and so after Charles the Grand Duke died in eighteen eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the Duchy of Baden went to his uncle Louis the First.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe things were and quite as straightforward as they seemed.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles and Stephanie had had a son, an infant prince,

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<v Speaker 1>born on September twenty ninth, eighteen twelve, but the baby

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<v Speaker 1>boy died after only a few weeks, but had he.

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<v Speaker 1>When casper Hauser appeared on the European scene, rumors began

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<v Speaker 1>to spread that the current Duke Louise's mother had schemed

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<v Speaker 1>to put her son on the throne by stealing away

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<v Speaker 1>the rightful prince and replacing him in his bassinet with

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<v Speaker 1>a sickly commoner. Was casper Hauser the missing prince? With

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<v Speaker 1>those rumors, In the words of Kitchen, casper Hauser quote

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just a symbol for primitive beauty and the purity

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<v Speaker 1>of man's animal nature, but of the perfidity of the

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<v Speaker 1>royal family, especially among the German radical of the nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>To those who had already hated the nobility that they

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<v Speaker 1>saw as corrupt and indulgent, it seemed perfectly in line

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<v Speaker 1>with their cruelty that they might steal away a baby

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<v Speaker 1>and torture him in isolation for a decade so that

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<v Speaker 1>their own son might inherit a throne. Supporting casper Hauser

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<v Speaker 1>as a missing prince became a way to attack and

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<v Speaker 1>delegitimize the current regime. There were other theories about who

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<v Speaker 1>casper Hauser was. If he was a noble, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>was the son of a Hungarian countess or an English royal,

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<v Speaker 1>but something about his appearance and the peculiarity of his

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<v Speaker 1>case led many to believe that something nefarious was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after the attack on Casper Hauser's life. In October

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen twenty nine, while living with the teacher Dahmer,

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<v Speaker 1>Casper Hauser and his guardian had gotten into some small disagreements.

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<v Speaker 1>Casper was indulging in the dishonesties of a child skipping

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<v Speaker 1>school and not telling the truth about it. Dahmer was

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<v Speaker 1>also getting a little frustrated with his quote unquote scientific

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<v Speaker 1>experiments on Casper, seeing that the more Casper adjusted to

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<v Speaker 1>civilized society, the more he seemed to be losing whatever

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<v Speaker 1>mystical quality he had had in the first place. One

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<v Speaker 1>day in October of eighteen twenty nine, more than a

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<v Speaker 1>year after Casper had first arrived in Nuremberg, Casper and

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<v Speaker 1>Dahmer had quarreled after Casper had been caught playing hooky.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, Dahmer returned home to a startling scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Casper had a large gash on his forehead. It had

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<v Speaker 1>dripped blood all the way from the outhouse through the

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<v Speaker 1>first first floor of the house. According to Casper, a

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<v Speaker 1>hooded man had attacked him in the outhouse, shouting, you

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<v Speaker 1>still have to die before you leave the city of Nuremberg,

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<v Speaker 1>And though Casper wasn't able to see the man's face,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew it was the man who had kept him

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<v Speaker 1>captive all of those years, the mysterious man who had

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<v Speaker 1>brought him bread and water and taught him how to

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<v Speaker 1>write his own name. The incident garnered sympathy among Casper's

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<v Speaker 1>supporters and renewed public interest in his case. One person

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<v Speaker 1>who found himself fascinated by this strange story out of

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<v Speaker 1>Germany was a British nobleman named Lord Stanhope. Stanhope was

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<v Speaker 1>the nephew of Prime Minister William Pitt, but his immediate

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<v Speaker 1>family was notably eccentric, and he himself was a much

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<v Speaker 1>remark upon germanophile. Stanhope met Casperhauser in May eighteen thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and he became obsessed the sort of flare of quick

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<v Speaker 1>intimacy that sometimes happens among new friends. Stanhope declared that

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<v Speaker 1>there was no doubt in his mind that Casper Hauser

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<v Speaker 1>was in fact of noble birth, and he began to

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<v Speaker 1>shower him with expensive presence. He gave Casper a life

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<v Speaker 1>annuity of five hundred goldens and one hundred goldens as

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<v Speaker 1>pocket money, which I'm sure was something of a weight

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<v Speaker 1>off of the shoulders of the town administrators of Nuremberg,

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<v Speaker 1>who had up until that point been paying for Casper

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<v Speaker 1>Hauser's upkeep. Within no time at all, stan Hope and

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<v Speaker 1>Hauser were calling each other by their first names, so

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<v Speaker 1>close that some speculated that the relationship was sexual in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Stanhope got it into his mind that Casper Hauser's true

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<v Speaker 1>mother was a Hungarian countess, and so he took Casper

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<v Speaker 1>on a trip to Hungary to see if anything might

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<v Speaker 1>jog his memory. Though Hauser's seemed to recognize a few

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<v Speaker 1>Hungarian phrases, the trip itself did not prove anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately it was a failure. And in failure, the eccentric,

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<v Speaker 1>impatient Stanhope found that Hauser now left a bad taste.

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<v Speaker 2>In his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>With the same speed that had characterized the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>their friendship, now Stanhope turned against Casper Hauser. This wholesome,

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<v Speaker 1>wide eyed, innocent was now clingy and annoying, and though

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<v Speaker 1>Stanhope had promised that he would take Hauser with him

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<v Speaker 1>back to England. He changed his mind and instead deposited

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<v Speaker 1>the young man in Unsbach with a schoolmaster and under

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<v Speaker 1>the patronage of Anselm von Furbeck, that legal scholar and

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<v Speaker 1>president of the Bavarian Court of Appeals I had mentioned earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Stanhope wasn't alone in souring on Casper House Us. There

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<v Speaker 1>were plenty of people who saw him as a sideshow distraction,

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<v Speaker 1>or else an abject fraud to quote Kitchen again quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Many resented his fame, found his character unattractive, commented bitterly

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<v Speaker 1>on his arrogance, his mendacity, and his absurd pretensions to gentility.

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<v Speaker 1>It was grotesque to people of a conservative event that

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<v Speaker 1>this somewhat ridiculous figure should be the darling of assorted radicals,

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<v Speaker 1>devotees of alternative medicine and practitioners of experimental pedagogy. The

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<v Speaker 1>anti Hussarians saw the whole fuss as further evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>the absurdity of radical pretensions and as an underhand attack

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<v Speaker 1>on the established order end quote. But was it possible

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't just pretentious and absurd. Was it possible he

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<v Speaker 1>was a complete fraud? Had he stabbed himself shallowly in

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<v Speaker 1>the outhouse in order to garner sympathy. Was it possible

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<v Speaker 1>Casper Hauser had never been imprisoned at all, never raised

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<v Speaker 1>in his strange isolation. After all, there was no proof

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<v Speaker 1>of it, No criminal had been caught. It seemed that

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<v Speaker 1>Casper Hauser was simple minded and innocent to some degree,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also had a mean edge, and he could

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<v Speaker 1>be vain and prone to small, self aggrandizing lies, although

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<v Speaker 1>even his sins could be explained away by his most

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<v Speaker 1>ardent supporters. See see how even a short time among

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<v Speaker 1>the so called civilized society corrupts the pure and innocent

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<v Speaker 1>among us. The schoolmaster that Casper Hauser was living with

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<v Speaker 1>in Ansbach was named Johann Meyer. Meyer seemed uninterested and

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<v Speaker 1>unwilling to indulge Hauser's behavior when he acted out, and

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<v Speaker 1>he found the young man a job at a local

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<v Speaker 1>law office, doing menial work as a copyist. As a

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<v Speaker 1>side note, it is extraordinary to imagine, just from a

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<v Speaker 1>psychological development perspective, that if Casper Hauser did in fact

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<v Speaker 1>live his entire life in isolation, that five years after

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<v Speaker 1>re entering society he would be capable of working a

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<v Speaker 1>standard administrative job. But he was even so Johann Meyer

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<v Speaker 1>and Casper Hauser didn't get along, and on December ninth, eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty three, they had a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>Less than a week later, Casper Hauser would have his

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<v Speaker 1>final adventure, the last mysterious piece of the puzzle in

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<v Speaker 1>his mysterious life. On December fourteenth, eighteen thirty three, Casper

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<v Speaker 1>Hauser stumbled back into Johann Meyer's house, leading from a

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<v Speaker 1>slash across his chest. While he gasped for air, he

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<v Speaker 1>managed to explain what had happened to him. A stranger

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<v Speaker 1>had found him in the end back court gardens, had

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<v Speaker 1>handed him a purse, and then, when Casper accepted it,

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<v Speaker 1>had stabbed him. As Casper bled in Meyer's house, he

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<v Speaker 1>tried to explain that they needed to find the purse.

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<v Speaker 1>He had dropped it somewhere in the gardens, but Casper

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<v Speaker 1>was going pale. He managed to mutter a few more

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<v Speaker 1>phrases that were impossible to make out, and then he fainted.

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<v Speaker 1>Six days later, Casper Hauser died.

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<v Speaker 2>He had been murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>His exit from German society was as mysterious as his entrance.

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<v Speaker 1>Policemen trawled the court gardens and found what they assumed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the purse from Hauser's story with a penciled

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<v Speaker 1>note written in backwards mirror writing. When translated, it read

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<v Speaker 1>in German, Hauser will be able to tell you quite

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<v Speaker 1>precisely how I look and from where I am. To

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<v Speaker 1>save Hauser the effort, I want to tell you myself

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<v Speaker 1>where I come. And then there's a blank space. I

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<v Speaker 1>come from from blank space, the Bavarian border, blank space

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<v Speaker 1>on the river, blank space. I will even tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the name m l O. Who had written this note?

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<v Speaker 1>And what did it mean? Was Casper Hauser secretly a

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<v Speaker 1>noble that needed to be done away with before the

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<v Speaker 1>truth about his origin was revealed? Was the man that

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<v Speaker 1>murdered him the same man who had kept him prisoner?

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<v Speaker 1>Surely his violent murder proved that he was someone that

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<v Speaker 1>those in power were trying to quiet. There was no

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<v Speaker 1>real consensus at the time. The alleged murderer was never

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<v Speaker 1>found and no more details came to light. His headstone

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<v Speaker 1>read here lies Casperuser. Riddle of his time, His birth

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<v Speaker 1>was unknown, his death mysterious eighteen thirty three. But was

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<v Speaker 1>he actually a missing prince? Even in the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of people pointed out that it was unlikely. Otto

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<v Speaker 1>Middelstad wrote in eighteen seventy six about how impossible it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been to reasonably swap out the Royal Baden baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote, quote, the baby's father, grandmother, and aunt, with

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<v Speaker 1>the ten Court physicians, the nurses and others would have

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<v Speaker 1>seen a swap in death, and it is too absurd

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<v Speaker 1>to suppose, on no authority that they were all parties

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<v Speaker 1>to the plot end quote. There were enough inconsistencies in

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<v Speaker 1>Hauser's story to wonder even if he had ever been

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<v Speaker 1>captive at all.

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<v Speaker 2>In the manner he described.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Casper Hausers he was well developed physically and relatively

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<v Speaker 1>capable cognitively in a way most people today would find

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<v Speaker 1>implausible for someone who had been raised for years in

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<v Speaker 1>a single room with no human interaction. As for his

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious injuries, his stabbings by a mysterious man who was

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<v Speaker 1>never caught, did Hauser actually do them to himself for sympathy,

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<v Speaker 1>for attention, to bring people around to his side, to

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<v Speaker 1>make himself feel important, for people to pay attention to

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<v Speaker 1>his story again? Today, some historians believe that Casper Hauser's

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<v Speaker 1>death was actually a tragic accident that he invented the

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<v Speaker 1>story of the masked man and the purse in the garden,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he had written and folded the mirror code

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<v Speaker 1>letter and then stabbed himself, but made a mistake and

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally went to deep with the knife. A twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three study indicated that Casper Hauser had the mark of

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<v Speaker 1>having received a cowpox vaccination to prevent smallpox, which was

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<v Speaker 1>mandatory in Bavaria since eighteen o seven. A mark from

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<v Speaker 1>a vaccination indicated that he had in fact grown up

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<v Speaker 1>not in isolation but in contact with other people. A

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<v Speaker 1>much publicized DNA test of the mitochondrial DNA from Casperhauser's

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<v Speaker 1>bloodstained undergarments by the German magazine Der Spiegel in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six proved once and for all that Casper Hauser

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<v Speaker 1>was not, in fact a member of the Royal House

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<v Speaker 1>of Baden, although of course those who still believe that

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>he was a prince find ways to claim that the

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<v Speaker 1>test was either mistaken or corrupted, will probably never discover

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<v Speaker 1>the truth behind the strange story of Casper Hauser.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>His story acquired an importance which in no way belonged

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Stanhope wrote after he was disillusioned, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>Casper Hauser has captivated audiences for literal centuries. You might

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<v Speaker 1>be familiar with the Werner Herzog film about him. The

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<v Speaker 1>most likely version of the story, if you had to

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<v Speaker 1>ask me, is something somewhere in the middle. Maybe Casper

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<v Speaker 1>Hauser was a boy from the countryside who was treated

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<v Speaker 1>very poorly.

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<v Speaker 2>Even abused.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he was the illegitimate son of a woman whose

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<v Speaker 1>family hid him in shame. Maybe he was born with

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<v Speaker 1>some disabilities that would have been treated with care and

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<v Speaker 1>sympathy today. When he was sixteen, whoever had been feeding

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<v Speaker 1>him had dropped him off to fend for himself. And

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<v Speaker 1>from there this young man became came both victim and

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<v Speaker 1>benefactor to the desires of a rapacious public, who saw

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>in him whatever they wanted to see. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect innocent He was a science experiment. He was a

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>philosophical riddle for gossiping about after dinner. He was a

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 1>manipulative liar. He was an example of the systems depravity.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a murder mystery. He was a prince. In

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<v Speaker 1>the end, maybe he was just a person. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>story of Casper Hauser. But keep listening. After a brief

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor break to hear about another murder that led to

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<v Speaker 1>even more questions in this mysterious case. I briefly mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Anselm Rider von Fuerbach in this episode. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>German administrator and legal scholar who was particularly interested in

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<v Speaker 1>the Casper Hauser case. From a legal perspective, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a reformer of the Bavarian penal code, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>a staunch defender early on of Hauser. He wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>book about Hauser in which he used him to argue

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<v Speaker 1>the point that the isolation and abuse he endured was

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<v Speaker 1>tantamount to a quote crime against the human soul. On

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<v Speaker 1>May twenty ninth, eighteen thirty three, Furbach died on a

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<v Speaker 1>journey to Frankfurt. He was only fifty seven years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and the circumstances of his death made it ripe for

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<v Speaker 1>gossip and theories. After all, he was a prominent and

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<v Speaker 1>public advocate for Casper Hauser.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe someone had poisoned him.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no proof that he was poisoned, and a

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<v Speaker 1>little ironically, he had actually come to the conclusion before

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<v Speaker 1>his death that Casper Hauser was in fact a scheming fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>But his death still became fodder for those connecting the

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<v Speaker 1>dots in a vast conspiracy. Casper Hauser himself was killed

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<v Speaker 1>only later that year. Noble Blood is a production of

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