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Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about Bobby Partis. I find

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Speaker 1: that crazy. So I've heard so many a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's true or not, but uh, his

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Speaker 2: Had a prescription for them. I think, yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: the assistant had a prescription in his own name and

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Speaker 3: I think there's definitely things on the band substance list

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Speaker 3: that don't need to be on there, Like that prescription

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Speaker 3: of that pill that he was that he took and test.

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Speaker 4: Positive for is a very very mid mild like painkiller.

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Speaker 4: It's like some mile.

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Speaker 3: Some doctor don't even prescribe it to patients because it's

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Speaker 3: the effect of some mild So that's that's one. It's

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Speaker 3: I got there's some things that shouldn't even be on there.

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Speaker 3: But we got to make sure we know as athletes

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Speaker 3: what we're putting in our body. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: the biggest thing because like you know, because at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, like it's like you.

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Speaker 4: Get suspended for twenty five games.

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Speaker 3: I mean, give you're losing if you have a I

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Speaker 3: don't know what he's getting paid, but like if you

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Speaker 3: have a ten million dollar contract and you have to

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Speaker 3: sit for what almost thirty like you're losing.

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Speaker 4: Two three million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like so like that decision is and.

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Speaker 1: I haven't gone to like CBS, lay wal Beans like

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Speaker 1: anything like ever, I'm like, this is what I.

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Speaker 5: What can I do for this? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Even if it's like even if I'm feelings, Yeah, even

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Speaker 1: if I'm feeling sick, I'm like, yeah, I'm feeling sad.

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Speaker 5: I need to take something like.

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Speaker 3: And it's like you know, and if you do it

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Speaker 3: the league office or NBPA or whatever, then at least

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Speaker 3: like they know, yeah they know.

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Speaker 4: And then if there is.

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Speaker 3: Something where never really happened, but like say like a

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Speaker 3: this is what they were giving me, then it's a

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Speaker 4: Be able to like appeal it and get past that.

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Speaker 3: Like even like he said, like with me, like there's

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Speaker 3: times I've I've texted Chris a Chin like that's who's

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Speaker 3: I am I able to take this? Like is this

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Speaker 4: Check this out?

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Speaker 3: And I'll send her a link and like she'll do

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Speaker 3: we don't think we should take it. So it's like

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take it. It's like you have to

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Speaker 3: major implications for the team obviously, but like for him.

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Speaker 5: It was like a two point three or two point four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like think like, bro, like I guess.

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Speaker 2: Seven figures that like that you lose for something that's

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Speaker 4: It's like yeah, and it's like like that's if I'm

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Speaker 4: going down down, Yeah, I'm coming back.

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Speaker 3: My jaw line gonna be totally different from like, dang,

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Speaker 3: what's up with Jay Hart?

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Speaker 5: Just some just some just some tramadol. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But it's like and like you know, we were Bobby

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Speaker 4: Dudes, Like you're like super dope, super cool. You know,

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Speaker 4: if you're if he's cool, would you rise for you?

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Speaker 3: But yes, that's you're gonna guess that one up. But

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Speaker 3: but it's it's just unfortunate that that that was what

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Speaker 3: obviously they weren't able to, you know, get that appeal.

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Speaker 4: But it's just there's a bummer.

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Speaker 2: It's so tough because like, if you're the league, the

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Speaker 2: rules like pretty clear cut, right, like here's a list,

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Speaker 2: I think, had written a letter and was see like

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Speaker 2: what this looks like. Was this someone who's trying to

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Speaker 2: Obviously there's been far more extreme cases right where people

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Speaker 3: I think it could cause the NBA to obviously not

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Speaker 3: the you know right now, but like going into next season,

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Speaker 3: no relook over that banned substance list and say like, okay,

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Speaker 3: what are like you said, what are the substances that

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Speaker 3: give this person a competitive advantage?

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Speaker 4: What are you know trying it all?

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Speaker 3: You could probably take it off the list, or you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's probably some other ones that you could

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Speaker 3: or stuff like that. So you know, whenever something like

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Speaker 3: of like okay, let's let's look at this and figure out, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, what improvements can be made for you know,

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Speaker 3: the protection of obviously the protection integrity of the league,

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Speaker 3: but also of your players.

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Speaker 4: So you know, that's a bummer.

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Speaker 1: Your system gave you that if your assistant gave you

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Speaker 1: the trumbat all right over the tour, it all their

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Speaker 1: employment would be terminated, terminated, or you give them a

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Speaker 1: second chance, second chance of what I was asking, would

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Speaker 1: you give them second chance?

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Speaker 5: Nah, it's over.

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Speaker 3: It currents curtains unless you're working for free. I got

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Speaker 3: to recoup that. I gotta recoup that through three.

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Speaker 5: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: But I will say I agree obviously, like really stupid,

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Speaker 2: uh on the assistance part. But but and again no

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Speaker 2: shade to Bobby, but what you both said is that

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Speaker 2: if you even feel somethings as minor as the sniffles,

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of parties wrong. But damn mm hmm, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it sucks.

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Speaker 3: If you don't change the substance of you know, some

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Speaker 3: like you said, it's I don't think it should just

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Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: No, Like I mean, I'm I'm saying like they had

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Speaker 3: there was a whole like appeal process and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: What are you saying, like, does this subs give this person,

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Speaker 3: like you know, competitive advantage, competitive advantage? I must owe

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Speaker 3: up competitive advantage. So it's like for something like that,

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Speaker 3: it's like, okay, like you you shouldn't have taken it.

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Speaker 3: You should know what's go within your body. But with

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Speaker 3: something like that, you should suspend it for five games,

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Speaker 3: seven games, ten games, not twenty five. I don't like

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Speaker 3: he's being suspended the same amount as if I sat

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Speaker 3: there and I took I don't know, some type of

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Speaker 2: Is it a one is it just a blanket, one

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Speaker 2: size fits all, twenty five game, no amount of anything

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it depends what the substance is.

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Speaker 3: I think if it's on that list and you get positive,

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Speaker 3: it's twenty five regardless.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So what is obviously we don't know this situation with

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Speaker 5: What is that? What is like that?

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Speaker 2: What does the random drug testing policy look like like?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 6: Is it truly random? Is it after you go out

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Speaker 6: I got tested. You're probably right, I get tested. I

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Speaker 6: At least it felt like I did get tested for

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Speaker 6: a while. And there's times I'm like on the list

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Speaker 1: Names are on the board when you walk in, right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I was on that list like three

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean how many how many times have you

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Speaker 1: That's the series, the Miami series when I didn't pass

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Speaker 1: I got tested the next day my first day out,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm not New York, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna send somebody down there will be there.

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Speaker 5: In an hour.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll be honest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's the league. Who's going somebody? Yeah, it's somebody.

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Speaker 4: But it's like so.

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Speaker 3: With me, like you're technically like you know, towards like

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Speaker 5: Where you're going to be at where most of.

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Speaker 3: The summer point of contact and all that stuff. I forgot.

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Speaker 3: I forgot. I don't know what I put down one time.

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Speaker 3: I think it was actually like last summer, two summers ago.

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Speaker 3: I think like the NBA was.

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Speaker 4: Like trying to track me down for like four days.

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Speaker 4: What was the story?

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Speaker 3: I was just in Miami. But like I guess, like

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I think I like my Like I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I changed numbers or what. I didn't change numbers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I get wrong. I don't know

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Speaker 3: depend on the phone. Like that sounds right, They know that, right,

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Speaker 3: they don't. Like I mean, now it's a little bit

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Speaker 3: different because like if you don't have the numbers safe

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Speaker 3: And then like a couple of days went by, and

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Speaker 3: then like one of the guys from the Knicks call

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