1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: January twelve, two thousand and twenty two. And nice day today, 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: isn't it? January twelveth We'll have a lot of fun 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: on today's podcast. Tomorrow we have a good guest for 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: the best NFL playoff game. Um, you can guess which 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: game that is. I don't think you're gonna guess our guests. 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: But he did play for one of the teams about 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: a decade ago. And he has a great, great nickname, 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: or he had it when he was playing in the NFL. 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: But January twelve, we've got a lot to get to today. 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: It is, um, obviously a day of big birthdays. Howard 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Stern Jason McIntyre, Yeah, a big day obviously. But I 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: think we need to get the real sports stories because 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: there's good ones out there. Uh and Joe Judge getting 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: fired by the Giants is not one of them. That's 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: way down the list. Um. The college football final ratings 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: for Georgia Alabama were, oh my god, they were staggeringly bad. 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: We'll get to that shortly, but I think we have 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: to open with the NFL because a couple of people 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: sent me this and I missed the text. Uh. And 22 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: then of course Rob g producer to the Stars, sends 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: me some topic ideas and I was like, wow, I 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: don't know about that, and then he sends me this one. 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: And Pro Football Focus. We've had several guests from Pro 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: Football Focus. I like their stuff. Um. I I either 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: subscribe or someone gave me the code to look at 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, but I used it every week, almost 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: every day, um, to look at grades. I mean I 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: just submitted an NFL mock draft. Uh, mock draft four 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: point oh, yes, four point oh. We start them right 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: after the draft happened. So fourth one in what is 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: this nine months now? Um? And you're on Pro Football Focus, 34 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: like looking at where their deficiencies on NFL teams. You're 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: obviously looking at how they grade some of the college 36 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: football players and Pro Football Focus. I think it's a 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: valuable resource. But then they go out and do nonsense 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: like this, and you're just like, it's kind of a 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: ding to the credibility. So Pro Football Focus put out 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: it's all protein and they're starting running backs obvious, Jonathan 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: Taylor starting wide receiver, Davante Adams, Cooper Cup, we get 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: all that. That stuff is easy, Deebo Samuel's reflex like none, 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: no real surprises. I mean Creed Humphrey was a mild 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: surprise at center, but he was outstanding for the Chiefs 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: this year. Um and overall, Like on offense, it's easy defense. 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: You know you got Eric Donald obviously, Uh, Max Crosby 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: got the nod over T J. Watt, Miles Garrett's in there. 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, not a ton of surprises, Okay, except when 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: you look at quarterback, which is obviously the most important 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: position in sports pro football focus when with Tom Brady 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: at quarterback of the All protein and as if that 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: wasn't enough, and you're like, oh, snubbing Aaron Rodgers, Well 53 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: that's that's a jerk. But they did a second team too, 54 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: and their second tea quarterback is Joe Burrow. Okay, let 55 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: that sink in for a moment. Now, why would they 56 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: do this? Well, as someone who ran a sports website 57 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: for price, started the website two thousand six, sold it 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: I think in two thousand eleven, UM, and I basically 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: operated for about a little over a decade. There are 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: several ways you can easily gin up clicks. Obviously, we 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: did something called the Roundup every day the best links 62 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: from around the Internet, and at the top of the roundup, 63 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: we'd have some attractive female, Um, Jessica Beal whoever it was, 64 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: Jessica Biele? How did that name pop it in my head? 65 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Super random? Anyways, that was always one of the most 66 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: traffic posts of the day, obviously because there's an attractive 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: female and there's a ton of good links to go through. 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: There's like viral videos. It's it was cool every morning 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: the Roundup. What you could also do lists right list. 70 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: People love the lists. You just quickly look through it. 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: There's no thought involved, and just skinning down the list 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: and doing lists is great for traffic. And then when 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: you double down and get super interesting by a highlighting 74 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: somebody who shouldn't be highlighted, or be totally leaving someone 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: off of a list, or see you know, dropping him 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: way down the list in a comical manner, that's how 77 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: you get noticed. People read it and they're like, oh, 78 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: look at this garbage, and then everybody talks about it 79 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: is upset. Well, there's gonna be about fifty different websites 80 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: putting out all proteins this week. Right, You've got a 81 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: week between uh, the end of regular season in the 82 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: wild card games. You've got like four days of content 83 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: to fill. And I was kind of nervous this week. 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, jeez, what are we gonna talk about? Well, 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: there's some good stuff. Obviously, if you want to cut 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: through of those fifty All proteins, you know Fox is 87 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna do one, ESPN will do one, CBS, Yahoo, Pro Football, 88 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Focus us on and on and on, everybody does one. Took. 89 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: The way to cut through is to leave Aaron Rodgers 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: off the list. He's not an All Pro quarterback. Now, 91 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: there's no explanation. They hype up Brady. He led the 92 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: NFL and drop backs through for the most yards um 93 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: second best turnover worthy throw raid in the league. Um blah, 94 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: blah blah. I was forty four years old. I forgot 95 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: about that. Joe Burrow Um was basically climbing at the 96 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: end of the season and he had a chance to 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: top Brady, but he sat in Week eighteen. So it's 98 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Brady and Burrow. No explanation of Aaron Rodgers, like he 99 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. So that's obviously the first trick, right, you 100 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: do that that you don't explain it, So then what 101 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: happens everybody lights you up. I haven't looked, but I'm 102 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: certain multiple blogs, green Bay blogs, green Bay newspapers, green 103 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Bay radio stations are all like Pro Football Focus snubs 104 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Because how the hell do is snub Aaron 105 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers when he was easily the best back in the 106 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: league this year? Like easily, he misses a game, they lose, 107 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: he sits out in the second half against the Lions, 108 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: they collapse like Aaron Rodgers, his numbers are unparalleled. It 109 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: throws like I love Tom Brady. You guys know that 110 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm a fan despite him playing for the Patriots. But 111 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: this is what Pro Football Focus is doing. Am I 112 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about any other All Pro list this week? No? 113 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Why did I talk about Pro Football Focus? Because they 114 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: did this, So it's a victory. Congratulations, guys. I wouldn't 115 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: call that necessarily clickbait because it's more of a trick. 116 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: A clickbait is when you advertise something that is totally 117 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: not what the link is. That's clickbait, at least in 118 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: my opinion. I'm sure other people have theirs, but this 119 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: isn't clickbait. This is basically a smart savvy move. Hey, 120 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: we're just gonna leave Aaron Rodgers off the list, not 121 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: explain it, and then call it a day. People will 122 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: click and be outraged and will just it's It's like, Um, 123 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan had a funny thing where he said he 124 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: likes to go on social media, make a statement and 125 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: then back away and close it and go out and 126 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: just leave it, walk away. It's almost like throwing a 127 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: grenade in social media and then closing social media, walking away, 128 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: going about your business, enjoying life, doing whatever you got 129 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: to do, not checking social media, and then let all 130 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: the rats just freak out about it. That's basically what 131 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: this is. Smart move by Pro Football Focus. Y'all got me? 132 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: I mentioned it. But there is good news for the 133 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers crowd. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 134 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 135 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I 136 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 137 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Peter King Incredible Football Morning and America Guy. Um he's 138 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: been on this podcast. He's basically the Dean of NFL 139 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 1: sports writers. He pulled thirty six media members and former 140 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: players who work in media, who's the m v P. 141 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: Thirty two of them said Aaron Rodgers. Thirty two of 142 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: the thirty six two guys voted for Joe Burrow, two 143 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: guys Carl Banks former linebacker UH for the Giants UM, 144 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: and a guy on Pro Football Focus they vote for 145 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I think that's going to be more symbolic 146 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: of what the actual vote is. I will say this, Yes, 147 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: earlier in the season there was concern that Rogers whole 148 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: COVID situation UH and quote unquote lying to the media 149 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: and all that stuff that was going to hurt him. 150 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: But by the end of the season, the numbers were 151 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: so clear in his favor touchdown interception ratio UH wins 152 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: number one seed, Like, it was obvious to anybody that 153 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: the Packers are the best team and Aaron Rodgers is 154 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: the m v P. So that's all I've got to say. 155 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Thank you to Peter King for putting that out there. 156 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: That was probably the best story in the NFL on Tuesday. 157 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: I thought that Joe judgemin was interesting. UM. I mean, 158 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: there was no way to keep Joe Judge right. The 159 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: locker room was in disarray, the GM was leaving. You 160 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: don't want to keep the coach and bring in a 161 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: new GM, because how hard is it gonna be to 162 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: higher GM when he they say, you've got to take 163 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Joe Judge, Really, do I have to answer to the coach? 164 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: That's no way to do business. You either hire the 165 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: GM and the coach at the same time, or you 166 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: hire the GM first and then he I, here's a coach, 167 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: not the other way around. So they does to Judge, 168 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: no surprise whatsoever. Interesting note I forget who posted it, 169 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: but there are now a total of zero zero former 170 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick assistance as head coaches in the league. Ah, 171 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: if you looked at last year, there was Flores, there 172 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: was let's see Flora is Bill O'Brien and Judge three. 173 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: They're all gone now. And I'm not gonna go into 174 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: the whole power hungry stuff. That's well chronicled. Um. I 175 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: do find it interesting though, that they're all out. Meanwhile, 176 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: look at the Sean McVeigh quote unquote tree. Remember the 177 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: joke cow boy Zach Taylor had a cup of coffee 178 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: with Sean McVeigh. He got the head coaching job of 179 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: the Bengals' whatever that matters. Uh, Zach Taylor's in the 180 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: playoffs right now, Zach Taylor and the Bengals are in 181 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Now he has Joe Burrow, Brian Flores did 182 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: not have a quarterback. Joe Judge did not have a quarterback. 183 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien had a quarterback, but he got to power 184 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: hungry and UM really flubbed being the GM. But the 185 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh tree, right Zach Taylor is they won the 186 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: division and they're in the playoffs. Matt la Fleur, I 187 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: don't know if he's in the McVeigh tree. They were 188 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: like best buddies, um and coached together. Floors Packers need 189 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: to introduction number one seed. Um. They've really had an 190 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: outstanding three year run. Cliff Kingsbury one of the McVeigh guys. 191 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: He has his Cardinals in the playoffs. The other McVeigh guy, 192 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: of course, Brandon Staley, another one of these. He had 193 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee with McVeigh. He let's give him 194 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: a job. Staley's Chargers miss it on the final, you know, 195 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: in the final game of the regular season, or they'd 196 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: be here too. I do find it a little interesting 197 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: that the Belichick tree seems to have fully soured at 198 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: this point, and it looks like the NFL has kind 199 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: of moved on, because remember, for a good fifteen years 200 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: there dating back to my my guy, Eric Mangini, Romeo 201 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: crannell Um, who's the guy, several others from the Belichick 202 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: tree got head coaching jobs and they, you know, all 203 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: for whatever reason that it just never really panned out. 204 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Of course, McDaniels in Denver a total catastrophe, and then 205 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: he was going to go to Indie, took the job 206 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: for like eight minutes and then backed out, And people 207 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: are waiting for McDaniels to get a job. But truthfully, 208 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what what owner is gonna bring in McDaniels, honestly, 209 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: given the track record of all these other guys and 210 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: the power that they seek because they saw how Bill 211 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: operated and it's worked for Bill, it's just not gonna work. 212 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: I think the only landing spot for McDaniels is when 213 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: Belichick leaves, be that in two years, in five. But 214 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: McDaniels ultimately will will get his his moment in the sun. 215 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: Um So, I don't know where the Giants go from here. 216 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: They are recycling through coaches in a way that the 217 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns do, and this is a proud franchise. I 218 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: think the New York Giants have four Super Bowls in 219 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: the last like thirty five years. It's got to be 220 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: up there among the most in the last thirty five years. 221 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: They're a great franchise. And this last you know decade, 222 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: basically everything has gone sideways since the Odell Beckham boat trip. 223 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: And I know I'm bedd blaming an Arnoodell. Jason, you're bad. 224 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: That's not nice. That's wrong, not blaming an An O'Dell. 225 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: But you know, like since that moment, it's all been downhill. 226 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: They were in the playoffs the following a following week 227 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: and I think O'Dell had two drops and they have 228 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: not been back to the playoffs since they enter training. 229 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: O'Dell to say, Kwan Barkley things that disaster transitioning from 230 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: Eli Manning was a total mess. It's just been a massive, 231 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: massive goat fuck. And the Giants are they are. I 232 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: would you could argue they're the worst franchise in the 233 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: league right now. It's bad. It's extremely bad for the Giants. Um, 234 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: but I want to I want to wrap up with 235 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: a little college football briefly, and this, you know, it's weird. 236 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: I was just talking with somebody in the industry about this. 237 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: When I had left UM pitt Pittsburgh, I'm to Pittsburgh. 238 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: When I left Pennsylvania to move to California, you know, 239 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: come out here, uh and join Fox. TV ratings were 240 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: like a big talking point, especially for the sports shows, 241 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: and like, you know, when I was on the Daily 242 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: the show every day, it was like we would look 243 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: at the ratings like that stuff actually mattered. And I 244 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: feel like now nobody really talks about ratings. UM. I 245 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: don't know if it's just so passe or things are 246 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: pivoting so quickly to UH streaming that it's like it 247 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: just doesn't really matter for TV ratings, Like nobody cares. 248 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't have the answer to that. I wish I did, UM, 249 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: but I will be honest, I almost missed this. The 250 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: National Championship ratings for UM Alabama Georgia were the second 251 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: lowest in the history. Let me get this actual second 252 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: lowest of the playoff air right now. I don't want 253 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: anybody saying this is the playoff of stinks. No no, no, no, no, 254 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: that's not right. Go look at the first college football playoff. 255 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: The ratings for Ohio State Oregon in January thirty four 256 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: point six million viewers. A mere seven years later it 257 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: was down to twenty two point six million. So you've 258 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: lost about thirty five percent of your national championship audience 259 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: in seven years. In almost any business, if you're down 260 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: thirty in seven years, UM, the CEO s toast. Multiple 261 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: other leaders in that organization are gone and there's a 262 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: chance your head in towards bankruptcy. Now, obviously college football 263 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: is extremely lucrative. UM like I like to support. Obviously, 264 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: I hate the college football Playoff with four teams making 265 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: it and basically it being an exclusive club that make 266 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: it and of the country is just not eligible to 267 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: make the playoff. UM, dropping seven years is crazy. Now, 268 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: my guy, Ryan glas Bagel, you guys know him. He 269 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: was at the Big Lead with me. Now he's at 270 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: the New York Post. He as soon as I tweeted 271 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: this out, he quickly responded, Well, if you look at 272 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, they were down half more than half 273 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: from and I love that people love to pick on 274 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: the NBA about ratings, but let's be clear. The Lebron 275 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: Curry Finals, where it was Kevin Durant and Steph Curry 276 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: against Lebron. That was a massive TV on it. That 277 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: was a TV event. People wanted to see Kevin Durant. 278 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I went on the Herd. I'll never forget this. 279 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: Right before the series begin, I said, Lebron's passing the 280 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: torch to Kevin Durant. He's gonna be the best player 281 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: in the league. And Durant lit him up head to head. 282 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: I know Lebron did never really anybody and um, it 283 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: was a rap, but that audience was. I gotta get 284 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: the numbers here, but I think it was, um, twenty 285 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: eight million. Um. But the weird thing is Ryan compared 286 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: it to what the numbers were last year, and I'm like, bro, 287 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: hold on, let me get the exact number. They had 288 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: twenty four million viewers for the final game of the 289 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: series last year, Sons Bucks twelve million. And I'm like, 290 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: all right, let's take a deep breath here. Are you 291 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: really trying to say that the interest level in Lebron 292 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: versus k D and Curry is anywhere near the same 293 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: as Chris Paul versus Jannie Like I could have told 294 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: you the ratings were not going to be great for 295 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: Bucks Sons. That's obvious now. If we get this. I'll 296 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: make a wager with anybody if we get nets Warriors 297 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: over twenty million viewers, most since k D and Curry 298 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: versus Lebron. I'll put money on it. If we get 299 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: the healthy Warriors Clay Curry against James Harden, Kyrie and 300 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, we will get twenty million viewers for the 301 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: NBA Finals easily, maybe two. Maybe, It's pretty clear people 302 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: like super teams and I don't want to hear this. Well, 303 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: what about Lakers heat? No that he got come on 304 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: the national the NBA Finals that year. I think we're 305 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: played in August? Are you kidding me? Come on? No? 306 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sorry. They were not playing in August. 307 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: They were playing like October. That's right, the season started 308 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: in August. Yeah, NBA finals in like October when you 309 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: got college football baseball postseason and the NFL can get 310 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: out of here. Of course not, No, NBA can't compete 311 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: with that. Um if if the finals are in June, 312 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: twenty million plus take that to the bank. That being said, 313 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that the same is true for college football. 314 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: I can't tell you right now. A matchup between Michigan 315 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: and U C. L A is gonna get you thirty 316 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: million viewers. I don't know that to be the case. 317 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, our people, and I don't know if there's 318 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: an easy way to answer this. Are people just worn 319 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: down on the SEC? Are they board of Alabama? Are 320 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: they board of Nick Saban's dominance? Because according to this 321 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: story Deadline Hollywood um Alabama Georgia, in which was a 322 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: great game, the two overtime touchdown pass twenty eight million viewers. 323 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: SOEN was down six million from and now we're down 324 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: to twenty two million. And you just wonder where that 325 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: trajectory is headed again. It doesn't matter to me. I 326 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: don't care. I'm not I don't I'm not paying for 327 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: ad space during the National Championship. But I do find 328 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: it interesting that your TV audience is shrinking massively. Fox 329 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 330 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot 331 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 332 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. All of a sudden, twelve 333 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: million people who used to watch the National Championship just 334 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: decided no, thanks twelve million. Now, I know, I know 335 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: people are watching differently. What about all the people who 336 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: have YouTube TV. What about the cord cutters. Yes, that's 337 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: obviously significant. I think that applies to everyone acceptably, the NFL, 338 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: which continues to have that older audience who watches religiously 339 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: Sunday night football after a full day of football, even 340 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: the even the four pm window um on Fox CBS. 341 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Those are massive numbers, and the reason is because the 342 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: audience is older. What is the college football audience? I 343 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: think that's a fair question, you know, I mean, if 344 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: you're a thirty year old, do you care about Alabama 345 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: and Georgia? Like I just you know, you get the 346 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: college crowd, and you get the older crowd, and you 347 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: get your fan base. But I mean, if you're a 348 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: USC fan, are you watching Alabama? I don't know. I 349 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: don't I don't have that answer. I mean you guys 350 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: could chime in, hit me on social and fill me in, 351 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: but um, it's just college is interesting. NBA listen. I 352 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: think it's a kind of deal where like, yeah, if 353 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is playing Curry, uh my mom is aware 354 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: of who Steph Korea is. I think Kevin Durance probably 355 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: well known enough among moms and dads that they would 356 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: tune at least give a look, see, I don't think 357 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: there's any way I could compel my parents to say, hey, 358 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: Nick Saban's going for national title number fifteen. They probably 359 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: don't know who Nick Saban is. And I think that's 360 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: a fair critique, Like the pro athletes are obviously significantly 361 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: different college. You know, you get the rotations, uh every four, 362 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: three or four years. It's it's college is a bit 363 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: of a tough sell. I think you need to change 364 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: the format and make it a twelve. I mean, sixteen's interesting. Twelve. Um, 365 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: I think you need to expand the playoff. But I've 366 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: been beating this dead horse for years, so I'll stop now. 367 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: Um But I thought those were interesting stories from middle 368 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: of the week, and um, as I said, tomorrow, we 369 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: have a good guest to talk NFL playoffs. Um, I 370 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: did make another bet, although I'm regretting it. And my 371 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: my buddy Dan, I go to this boxing class with 372 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: I like how he's always asking me who I'm on 373 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: because he listens to the pod and he's like, are 374 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: you sure you like Dallas? You're on them? And I 375 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of regret with the Dallas bet early, 376 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: but I got a three, which I think is a 377 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: better number than four. I would hate it four, but 378 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: I told him I loaded up on the Chiefs, and 379 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: of course, for whatever reason, on Tuesdays, Pittsburgh Steelers money 380 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: showed in the market and that got me a little 381 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to say upset, because my bets made um, 382 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: I feel confident, but to see it dip down a 383 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: little bit from thirteen to like eleven and a half 384 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: at some sharp spots, it's like, huh, I don't know 385 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: what people are seeing. I'm a little surprised. I think 386 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs work them. I know Tomlin is the raw 387 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: Rock coach um and this is a totally different spot 388 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: than last year where they just got destroyed at home 389 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: by the Browns. They were big favorites and they got 390 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: killed and I was on the Steelers. So this year 391 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: they are almost two touchdown underdogs. And Andy Reid, we 392 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: know what the bye week in the postseason, he's lethal. 393 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't got a bye week. Um, I'm I'm I'm 394 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. I'm pot committed Kansas City rams. I'm 395 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: still marinating on the others. If there is one dog 396 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: I like, I kind of want to make a case 397 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: for the Eagles. I mean, if it gets to ten. 398 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll touch ten because then you'll get 399 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: too way too much big money on the on the Eagles. Um, 400 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: I just think if they're able to run the ball, 401 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: and I know that obviously, the tried and true is 402 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: everybody runs on Uh. Nobody can run on Tampa. Philly. 403 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: All they do is run. Nobody runs on Tampa. They 404 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: have no chance. Well, I just want to point out 405 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: the Jets had like a hundred fifty on the ground 406 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: teams and for whatever reason, it's gone unnoticed because it 407 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: hasn't really mattered. But in the last like four or 408 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: five weeks, teams have had some success running against this 409 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: Tampa front. Now I don't know what the deal is 410 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: with that. I don't know how. A lot more work 411 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: to be done, um, but I do think if I'm 412 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: looking at one dog, it's probably Philly. I don't think 413 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: I can make a case for the Raiders. Um, but 414 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: I'm I'm we'll see. We got lots of work to do, alright, guys, 415 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: everybody enjoy January twelve day. Great day. We'll talk to 416 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: you tomorrow.