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Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and Load.

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Speaker 2: Michael Verie show is on the air.

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Speaker 3: Blessed other merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are

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Speaker 3: the pure in heart, for they shall see God. Blessed

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Speaker 3: other peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

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Speaker 1: John, the contours of a potential peace plan are coming

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Speaker 1: together after President Putin's visit here in Alaska. Russia essentially

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Speaker 1: wants control of territories in eastern Ukraine if they are

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Speaker 1: going to agree to cease fire everywhere else. Ukraine wants

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Speaker 1: security guarantees. They want Western troops to come into their

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Speaker 4: I refuse to bend the knee to their next endless

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Speaker 4: war in Ukraine. I want peace, They want money, and

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Speaker 4: they want conflict, even if it means walking us into

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Speaker 4: the brink of World War three, which frankly it is doing.

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Speaker 1: It was determined by all that the best way to

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Speaker 1: end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to

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Speaker 1: go directly to a peace agreement which would end the war,

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Speaker 1: and not a mere ceasefire agreement, which oftentimes do.

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Speaker 5: Not hold up can you say if you want Ukraine

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Speaker 5: or Russia to win this war.

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Speaker 6: I want everybody to stop dying.

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Speaker 2: They're dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I wanted to stop. February

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth, twenty twenty two verses rolled into Ukraine. It's

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Speaker 2: only been three years. The loss of life, the waste

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Speaker 2: on war that could have been spent on so many

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Speaker 2: more productive endeavors. Matthew five nine says, blessed are the peacemakers,

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Speaker 2: for they shall be called the children of God, or,

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Speaker 2: as you heard in the opening audio, the Son of God,

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Speaker 2: the children of God. The takeaway is that the peacemakers

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Speaker 2: are exalted, and today we exalt our president, of whom

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Speaker 2: we should all be so incredibly proud, because he is

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Speaker 2: a peacemaker. It was February twenty seventh of this year,

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Speaker 2: just a matter of days ago, that Vladimir's Zelensky came in,

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Speaker 2: and he proceeded to lecture Donald Trump, and JD. Vance

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Speaker 2: stepped in and said, you ought to be grateful. Trump

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Speaker 2: kept his cool. To his credit, he kept his school.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have I'd have lost my as your kids say,

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Speaker 2: I'd have lost my hm. It rhymes with spit or pitt.

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Speaker 2: I would have lost mine. But Trump was dignified. He's

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Speaker 2: a deal maker. He was emotionally invested, but he was

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Speaker 2: taking the long game. Zelensky's a hot head. Zelensky didn't

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Speaker 2: Zelensky was told get out. February twenty seventh. Now looks

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Speaker 2: like we've got the framework for a deal. The most

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Speaker 2: important thing, according to Zelensky, is wanting protection to avoid

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Speaker 2: to avert another invasion by Russia. A reasonable request. A

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Speaker 2: reasonable request. Zelensky had to understand that he's not holding

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Speaker 2: the cards. Trump's insistence that Europe pay the United States

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Speaker 2: for the protection of Ukraine with the javelins, with humanitarian aid,

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Speaker 2: with expertise. Europe stands to gain by Ukraines sustained a

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Speaker 2: hegemony over their country. The very existence of Ukraine is

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Speaker 2: a benefit to Europe. Why then, wasn't Europe paying for

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Speaker 2: Ukraine's defense? Why were we? Because I maintain and I

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Speaker 2: believe this with every fiber of my body, just like

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Speaker 2: I believe the COVID vaccine did not stop COVID and

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Speaker 2: Epstein files will never truly be released because the depth

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Speaker 2: and breadth of what was involved will cause your brain

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Speaker 2: to explode. It's so much more than just some billionaires

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Speaker 2: getting off with children raping little children. I believe that

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Speaker 2: America's corruption in Ukraine is coming to an end, and

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Speaker 2: that involves the Clintons, and it involves some Republicans as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, when Tampa Bay brought Tom Brady down, I

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Speaker 2: new scheme. Each year he was getting one year older,

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Speaker 2: great things, and everybody else doesn't. Trump willed this meeting

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Speaker 2: to happen the February twenty seventh, throwing Zelenski out, and

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Speaker 2: made the trade for herschel Walker to Minnesota, and at

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Speaker 2: And Jimmy Johnson's trade was that every player that he

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Speaker 2: He would get Minnesota's first round draft pick. Well, he

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even a Cowboys fan. I've never rooted

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Speaker 2: But when that happened Jimmy Johnson, people were saying, with

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Speaker 2: He's an idiot. He should go back to Miami. He's

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Speaker 2: not a pro coach. Well, he fooled everybody, didn't he

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Speaker 2: He fooled everybody because slowly but surely, he sucked every

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Speaker 2: results speak for themselves. On February twenty seventh, how quickly

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Speaker 2: people have forgotten when Zelenski came in all wound up

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Speaker 2: like a little chihuahua, barking, and Trump let him bark.

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Speaker 2: Trump let him make a fool of himself. Trump understands

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Speaker 2: how to negotiate because he's had to do it. He's

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Speaker 2: there is a former student body president of their college

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Speaker 2: And now you've got to get them together and get

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Speaker 2: like that. Putin came to Alaska American soil and he said,

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Speaker 2: I've got audio of them saying that he's just, you know,

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Speaker 2: out and say, no, I'm playing him. Putin wanted peace,

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Speaker 2: and so he came in. You know, Trump made the

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Speaker 2: He says things that people think that go unspoken, and

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Speaker 2: to what extent Putin understands double n tender, clever quips,

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Speaker 2: in a very direct manner, and rather than play Koy

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio and a few of the Sunday Morning we'll

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Speaker 2: He was asked on ABC This Week by Martha Raddits,

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Speaker 8: Where is the because he can't have a piece agreement. Now,

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Speaker 8: you can't have a peace agreement unless both sides give

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Speaker 8: That's true, and virtually any negotiation if not, it's just

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Speaker 8: of course concessions were asked. But what utility would there

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Speaker 7: Agree to these things.

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Speaker 8: So these negotiations, as much as everyone would love it

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Speaker 8: only work best when they are conducted privately. Negotiation serious

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Speaker 7: People have to go back and defend these.

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Speaker 8: Agreements that they make and so figure out a way

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Speaker 8: space for concessions to be made. But of course concessions

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Speaker 2: The live pay per view comment was a scripted comment

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Speaker 2: He has practiced that that was prepared for him. He

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Speaker 2: And that's Trump is in his second term. He is

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Speaker 2: He is thinking about his legacy. When the tunnel starts

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Speaker 2: You start thinking differently. You start thinking about after you're gone,

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Speaker 7: Now. The President has traveled.

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Speaker 9: I want to play something you said about President Putin.

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Speaker 7: Take a look.

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Speaker 8: This guy lies, habitually lies. He's never kept a dealer

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Speaker 7: You can't cut a deal with guys like this. He's

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Speaker 9: Given that, what makes you think that if you are

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Speaker 7: Well, that's the point.

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Speaker 8: That's why the deal has to have enforceable mechanisms in it.

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Speaker 8: It actually would make things worse. So that's why this

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Speaker 2: I was never a Rubio fan. I was a fan.

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Speaker 10: You're listening to him.

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Speaker 2: Michael berry Shaw. One of the talking points of the

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Speaker 2: you make a deal with him, Well, no less than

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Speaker 6: Effort to get the Syrian government to declare, disclose and

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Speaker 10: Can we really believe that Vladima Putin, with his own

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Speaker 7: No, we don't have to believe it.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 6: You work for the best and prepare for the worst

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Speaker 10: Yeah, what was he like behind closed doors, away from

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Speaker 10: Help blunt, brutally blunt.

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Speaker 6: No, But I think, you know, I think the right

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Speaker 2: Hmmm.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 11: But anyway, you know, there is concern from the Europeans

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Speaker 8: That's not true? But that's not why why that's not true.

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Speaker 8: They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being.

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Speaker 8: We've had more meetings we've had we've had We've had

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Speaker 7: So, but that's not true.

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Speaker 8: They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied.

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Speaker 8: But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep

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Speaker 8: This is such a stupid media narrative that they're coming

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Speaker 7: We invited them to come.

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Speaker 8: We invited them to come, The President invited them to come.

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Speaker 11: But the President told those European leaders last week that

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Speaker 8: Because obviously things happen during that meeting. Well, because obviously

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Speaker 8: Enough progress, not a lot of progress, but enough progress

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Speaker 8: made in those talks to allow us to move.

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Speaker 7: To the next phase.

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Speaker 8: If not, we wouldn't be having Zelenski flying all the

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Speaker 8: way over here. We wouldn't be having all the Europeans

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Speaker 8: with a grain of salt. I'm not saying we're on

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Speaker 8: that we saw a movement, enough movement to justify a

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Speaker 8: follow up meeting with Zelinsky and the Europeans, enough movement

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Speaker 8: for us to dedicate even more time to this. You

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Speaker 8: talk about the sanctions. Look, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 8: if peace is not going to be possible here and

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Speaker 8: this is just going to continue on as a war,

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Speaker 8: people will continue to dive by the thousands. The president

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Speaker 8: has that option to then come in and impose new sanctions.

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Speaker 7: But if he did this.

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Speaker 8: Now, the moment the president puts those adtional sanctions, that's

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Speaker 8: the end of the talks. You've basically locked in at

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Speaker 8: least another year to year and a half.

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Speaker 7: Of war and death and destruction.

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Speaker 8: We may, unfortunately wind up there, but we don't want

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Speaker 8: to wind up there. We want to wind up with

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Speaker 8: a peace deal that ends this war so Ukraine can

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Speaker 8: go on with the rest of their lives and rebuild

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Speaker 8: their country and be assured that this is never going

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Speaker 8: to happen again. That's the goal here. We're going to

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Speaker 8: do everything possible to make that happen.

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Speaker 7: If it's doable, it.

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Speaker 8: Will require both sides to make concessions, it will require

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Speaker 8: both sides to get things they're asking for.

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Speaker 7: That's how these deals are made.

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Speaker 2: Whether we like it or not, not everyone in the

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Speaker 2: media has been so critical of President Trump. Jonathan Carl

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Speaker 2: of ABC News is not typically kind to Trump, pointed

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Speaker 2: out that the president the Alaska Accords were made for television. Now,

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Speaker 2: I've read several folks say that this was all, you know,

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Speaker 2: a grip and grin. This was all a photo op.

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Speaker 2: The president understands the symbolism of things throughout history. Grand

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Speaker 2: gestures can change history. And yes, this president understands stagecraft.

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Speaker 2: That's something to be proud of.

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Speaker 12: I mean Donald Trump. Some will question whether he knows statecraft.

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Speaker 12: He does, David no stagecraft. That was a made for

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Speaker 12: television moment, seeing him walk down one red carpet, greeting Houghton,

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Speaker 12: walking down another red carpet, and then getting in to

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Speaker 12: the presidential limo. There have been so many critics of

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Speaker 12: this summit over the past several days, saying, how could

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Speaker 12: Donald Trump welcome Vladimir Putin to American soil? How could

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Speaker 12: he give him the honor of meeting with an American president.

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Speaker 12: They will no doubt have a similar reaction when they

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Speaker 12: see that picture of a smiling Vladimir Putin in the

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Speaker 12: seat there next to the President in the presidential limo.

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Speaker 12: I can tell you this though, Donald Trump sees it

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Speaker 12: entirely differently. He sees this is he has brought the

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Speaker 12: Russian president to American soil. This is a home game

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Speaker 12: for Donald Trump. He has brought him to American land.

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Speaker 12: He has done that flyover of the B two bomber,

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Speaker 12: just like the B two bombers that took out the

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Speaker 12: air campaign against the Iranian nuclear facility. Walking by American

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Speaker 12: firepower and getting in to the most sensitive personal vehicle

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Speaker 12: in America, Oaks.

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Speaker 2: If you heard me say that, you'd go okay. That's

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Speaker 2: interesting for the liberal media to be saying that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is how far we come.