WEBVTT - A Lead Anchor 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:05.600 If you thought more hours a day dred minutes a 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:09.320 week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.600 of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.600 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.680 rich pill poppers in the penthouse to clearing house of 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.240 hot takes. Break Free for Something Special Hour with Ben 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:31.600 Maller starts right now that it does in the air Everywhere. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.440 Another podcast Pellosa kind of a day here as we 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.080 are back the weekend kicking off because four hours a 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:43.080 night are not enough. We do this eight days a week. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.320 We thank you for finding the podcast, We're supporting the podcast, 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.879 for downloading the podcast, telling friends about the podcast, and 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.000 we we do appreciate it. And joined by the guy 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.640 West of the four oh five. He's on Gascon Time, 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.240 right over David Gascon and making his way in to 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.960 the podcast. I'm on I'm on two time zones, three 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:15.040 time zones Pacific, Eastern and Central European time mclock A 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:20.040 little like the brag about that you know what what 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.440 you operate with? Darcy? What time do you? Guys? Usually 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.880 go on Darcy down under Darcy walder Grave, which is 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:31.319 on Saturday, mornings at eight in the morning eight your 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.600 time in New Zealand time, but it's like eight thirty 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.600 or something in the morning. But it's what's their time 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.720 difference with us? Well, I do it at one thirty 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:47.360 California time Pacific like nineteen is it nineteen hours or something? 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.520 Not good weekend. Yeah, it's a different world. I mean 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.920 they're ahead of every they are the beginning. What's the 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.800 last time zone? I know they're the New Zealand and 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.800 Australia like the first time zones where the clock turns 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.320 over where it would it be? Guam? Is that the 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:03.520 end of it? I don't know. I know that's a 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.200 good question. What is the last times on the lot? 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.880 That brings up the rear? Someone's got to be last 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.600 if someone who celebrates New Year's last I don't know. 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.399 I'll look it up, all right, just google it. That's 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.760 not what this is about, because this is about hanging 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.840 out and chatting. We don't have guests. We have people 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.919 that we like to talk to. And I am excited. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.639 This is a guy I go way back with, uh, 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.840 someone that when I was a radio stringer, a radio 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.200 reporter and covering games, I spent many a night, hanging 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.679 out with this guy at games, after games, going to 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.760 sports bars, eating cheeseburgers in the middle of the night, 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:49.440 having a grand old time. And someone that I encouraged 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.359 to work at Fox Sports Radio, someone I wanted to 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.960 get in because because the Fox Sports Radio, which bother 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.800 Why does that bother you? Because you encouraged him to 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:06.800 work here, and you encourage me to go work in China? Like, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:10.240 what kind of an asshole does that? I? I encourage 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:14.839 you to work in China, West Virginia Baker's Field. Yes, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.519 I'm looking out for you. Yeah, it's all about the story. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.400 You've got great stories. Now, Guessica, You've got great stories. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.799 Could you imagine me in China right now? I'll be wonderful. Yeah, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.040 I'd be telling. I'd be fucking. I'd been in blowhard 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:33.000 right now. Hunt your anniversary, you would be big in China. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:38.720 You would be very big in China. Anyway, let's get 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.080 into it. Steve Sager a man of mystery, the great 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.280 Steve Disager, longtime radio personality in southern California, but on 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:51.840 the nationale air waves for many, many years. But speaking 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.360 of that, Steve, my memory is a bit hazy at 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.880 this point. I do remember Fox Sports Radio before Steve 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.240 Disager worked if Fox Sports Radio. But you have been 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:08.480 a staple of the fs R radio family for how 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:13.560 many years? How long has it been. Racing may not 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.599 be that good at maths, it's certainly over a decade. 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:20.080 It's closing in on fifteen I believe. Also at our 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:25.400 anchor studio, I believe Dead Carson was hired two weeks 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:31.719 before I was. So literally there's not been to my knowledge, 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.520 there's not been a full time opening in fifteen years 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.599 in the anchor studio because no one leaves. It's like you. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.240 I remember actually you brought me into the studios. Of 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.000 course people probably know Fox Sports Radio headquartered in l A. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.320 And that was Deb's first night actually that she was working. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.520 And you said, oh, listen to this guy that's on 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:57.040 the phone. He's reporting from college football, Dan Buyer. He's 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.839 got the greatest job. He just gets to go to 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.760 a different college football game every Saturday. That's all he 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.960 does all season. And Dan is now, of course the 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.120 head anchor. He has the titled manager of Fox Sports Radio. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.000 So yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, And I thank you, 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.520 by the way, because I remember when you and I 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:17.000 would sit in press boxes for years that you used 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.560 to live in Orange County as well, and when you 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.120 went up to Fox, you would say more than once 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.280 you know you ought to work there, and eventually guess 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.000 what now now I work there. Well, No, listen, I 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.359 I as you know to say, I think very little 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.680 of many people in radio, but you're good and I 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.520 like good people. And I thought you got We've got 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.880 to get you in there, and I'm glad it didn't 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.880 take long. It didn't take long to get you in there. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.120 But I remember deb Carson's first night. She came in 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:45.080 all dressed up, and I like it with TV. Yeah, 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.520 I like, Dad, we're doing an overnight weekend radio show. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.440 Are you doing? I mean, no one's here, and the 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.400 trust me. If management comes in, it's only because the 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.839 radio stations on fire. So that's the only where they're 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:58.279 coming in, yea, or or the only other time. Literally, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.479 the only other time I've seen managed it in there 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.320 on the weekends was when Andy Roddick and his hot 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.680 wife were both in there on some show. I'm not 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.320 kidding you. That's the only time I've seen management there 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.640 on a Saturday. Well, no, I mean, listen, if there 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.760 is if you look at the setup, there's an ex 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.960 athlete in there, like a powerful person. I remember when 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.599 the late Rush Limbaugh would come in during the week 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.680 and it was like there were people screwing around trying 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.080 to make sure everything was clean and you know, it 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.960 was putting everything in the proper place, and all the 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:33.240 executives were there. When when Rush would come walking into 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.000 his studio, which was the studio was just a crown 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.040 across the hall around the corner there what he would 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.360 do when he was in l A and uh. But 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.120 but other than that, I mean, I would you know 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.719 I'm not there during the daytime during the week, which 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:47.440 I guess you are, but I don't see I don't 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.679 see anybody. I love that our offices are actually separate 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.000 from the studio. You have to go outside across the 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.839 plaza and go upstairs to where management is. So it's 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.960 very rare that management comes in. That is a great 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.840 thing for the workers. Just for the record, if something happens, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.560 you know, they can email you or let you know, 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.240 but usually you don't see them. And as far as 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.480 the worst story that I can remember, as far as 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.400 people being asked to show up because somebody famous or 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.280 somebody would pull stephen A. Smith. Do you remember that 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.960 he was on our network briefly. Oh. Yes, he did 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:21.560 the early morning show, and right before he was going 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.040 to start that, they asked the board operator, Hey, can 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.840 you come in and maybe you know a chance just 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.040 say hello and something like that. And so it's a 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.880 you know, what's four in the morning or something like that, 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.320 and it didn't mean anything, and the show was off 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.000 pretty soon after that. It was just workers are being 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.440 asked to coddle same too often for my taste. Yeah, no, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.240 I remember stephen A. It's really amazing. I mean, listen, 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.080 you guys. The guy's a huge star at ESPN. But 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.160 I remember when he started. He actually did a weekend 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.800 show in the early days of Fox Sports Read. He 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.440 was a columnist in Philadelphia before he went to ESPN, 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:04.640 and he did a weekend talks with John Ireland. Yeah, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:06.560 the Lakers annouswer for many years. So they did a 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.720 show together on Saturday mornings, and uh, you know stephen A. 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.000 You know, he would show up and he came he 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.440 lived on the East coast, but he'd come into l 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.160 A and he'd hang out, you know. Part of the year. 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:17.720 He did the show from l A and I remember 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.360 I was doing the you know, I was there on 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.440 the weekend, so I ran into him a few times. 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.560 And I'll never get one time John was late coming 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.840 back from a Laker roacher. At that time, he was 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.080 the sideline reporter for the Lakers, so he was traveling 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.040 with the team, but he was late getting back and 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.400 Stephen A had to do the show by himself, and 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.160 he was at that time he hadn't had a lot 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:42.480 of experience working by himself. And you know, Steve, it 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.720 is a much different animal when you do a talk 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.480 radio show by yourself than when you've got that well no, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.880 I mean you've done some talk as well and the past, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.200 but but it's it's like it's a totally the preparation, 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.600 the amount of laser like focus, and Stephen was not 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:01.360 quite prepared for that at that time. And uh, you know, 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:02.520 I think it was one of the few people that 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.760 was listening. But it was very awkward. It was very awkward, 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.920 but obviously didn't hold him back. And then and then 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.960 he got let go by ESPN and he came back 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.600 and you're right, and they gave him the morning show 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.640 at Fox, which means by the way it's an l 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.959 A studio. Three am Pacific I think is when it started, 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.840 so it would be morning drive on the East. And 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.400 then the reason why it didn't last, I am told, 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.880 is because then he couldn't be a games or what 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.600 have you in the evening because he had to wake 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:36.080 up so early. First thought, maybe maybe we didn't know this. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.000 I don't think they're going to change the time of 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.840 the games to accommodate anybody. I mean, I'm going out 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.720 of a limb there putting my neck out on that one, Steve. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.560 I'm putting my neck out maybe for you Mr Leiden, 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.120 you know, forget the weekends, for you have on the 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.600 late night during the week for quite some time. And now, 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.720 of course with the podcast you're making the big bucks. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.520 Who had a big bucks off a podcast? Well you 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.000 know I'm raising my hand over here, yes, Scott playing 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.600 every long have you had this podcast? Out? By the way, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:08.560 here's six months days everything behind the calendar. I could 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.319 buy a book of stamps now with the money I've 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.560 made off this. So, in other words, if finally come 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.440 to your last guest on the list, and that I 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.959 was asked to be on the show for full blown discolosure. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:25.080 He ridiculed me for booking you on the that I 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:29.520 have text messages. Here's what happens I had. Uh you know, 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.040 I try to book ahead, right, we try to book ahead. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.200 I try to book ahead, and I try to book 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.240 I try to book ahead and booking a guest two 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.000 weeks ago, I'll tell you who I failed miserably. A 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.560 second so I got an email from the publicist of 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.920 Michael Kay. You know who Michael Ka is to say, Yeah, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.360 the Yankees announcer. Right, So he wrote a book and 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.880 he wanted to promote the book, and so he does 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.160 an afternoon drive show on the ESPN station in Manhattan. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.120 So he's very proud of that. Yes, and he beat 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.280 Mike Francesse in the ratings and he loves it, let 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.600 you know that. Yeah. So anyway, like he can't we 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.440 normally record at the time his shows on in New York, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.120 so obviously he can't do that. So I've been logistically 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.920 trying to work out with his publicist when we could 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.839 get Michael on to do this podcast. So I gave 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.000 them a bunch of times, which would mean I'd have 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.280 to stay up even later, which is fine. I mean 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.000 I do it and record it, and so I'm playing 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.480 email tag with the publicist. The guy gets back to 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.480 me on Tuesdays. Is because we were supposed to it 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.720 was supposed to tap something with Michael Kay on Wednesday 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.800 or Thursday, and he said, I can't. You know, he 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.000 can't do it. And I'm still efforting, which when somebody 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.199 says they're efforting, that means they're not doing it. The 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.360 efforting means they're not It's not gonna happen. So then 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.319 I I said, all right, we we gotta get somebody 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.240 on the podcast. I went to the guest and then 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:52.320 Gascon was like totally gobsmacked, totally like flummixed by the 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.559 whole the whole situation. So that's I do have a 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.040 suggestion at this point of the podcast that you could 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.240 probably get Clipper Daryl because he is always available at 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.720 this time of year. You know. Yeah, that's true. And 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.400 by the way, to say you're listen, I mean, Fillows 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.240 don't know. One of the reasons I like you is 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.560 I remember you wearing Clipper paraphernalia. Oh yeah, I used 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:15.559 to go to we would have people visit from out 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.319 of town. We would go to Clipper games. It would. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.719 It could always be easier ticket to get. You want 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.240 a jacket, right, a Clipper jacket. Yes, I was given 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.920 to it when I when I worked in Anaheim, I 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.680 was given those what is it, silk sat and jackets 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.079 the eighties, things that you would be like on Lakers 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.360 Finals videos where the ball boy is wearing the you know, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.240 I got one of those with the Clippers and it's 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.079 the blue. I love those blue Clipper colors in the past. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.720 I still have it. Yeah, no, I remember you would 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.680 wear that from time to time. And it was that's 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.719 why the Clippers of the People's team steve because you 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.880 can go the old the sports marine is gone in 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:52.840 l A. But you could go there and you can 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.640 get a ticket. The sports it was a dump. It 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.720 was Are you going to tell the story? Because you 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.199 used to cover Clipper games next to the color see 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.560 Um in downtown l A. I remember once where were 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.160 you playing? Like some touch football game in the parking lot? 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:13.040 A game like midnight downtown? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.040 not far from South Central. Yeah we we would, you 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.480 know in my my as you notice, if I grew 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.400 up out there in my twenties going to games and 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.280 I had no girlfriend. I had no life. I had. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.440 My life was revolving around my job covering the games. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:31.160 And yeah, we would play in the parking lot, just 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.160 in the shadow of the coliseum, next to the l 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.319 A Sports Arenia. We would play like football in the 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.400 middle of like after they get to cover the games, 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.080 you know, get out of there, like eleven o'clock, maybe 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.040 after the game when you do the post game stuff. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:47.920 And who doesn't want to hang around downtown l A midnight. Yeah, especially, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.920 I mean those days. As you know, it's a little 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.640 bit better now in that area because they build a 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.240 soccer stadium there. I would built right on top of 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.600 where the Clippers used to play, next to the color Yeah. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.400 The last time I was in the sports arena, I 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.120 was at it. I was coming at USC Notre Dame 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:07.080 game and the the parking was all messed up, so 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.800 the overflow parking was on the floor of the l 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.480 A Memorial Sports so I parked. I parked the mallon 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.000 Wibile on the floor. Steve, I had a photo. I 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.560 can't find it. I have it somewhere here. And that 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.920 was That's an arena that has hosted NBA Finals games, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:29.240 n c A tournament, hosted the Democratic Convention with Kennedy 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.680 when it was new. That's how old that, Yes, and 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.640 my last memory is parking my car on the floor 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:41.240 of the arena. Uh it was. I do recall after 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.120 one of those midnight football games, you came down ill 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.560 and we're not able to cover the next game or 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.560 two because of that. Well, I had some you know 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.720 what I really got. The sickest I got was in 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.760 ninety five after the baseball strike of I remember they 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.360 didn't play at the beginning of the year, and so 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.720 after we had missed the World Series. Yeah, yeah, so 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.600 they came back and they had to they had to 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.920 kind of jam in as many games as they could. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.400 And so, and I'm such a knucklebole concept, they'll never 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.720 try that again in any sport. Yeah, exactly. So I 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.160 I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go out there and 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.200 you know, cover every game and the dot it was 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.040 literally every day Dodges and Angels were playing like you know, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.000 either one was home and the one and so I 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.920 I went out of so much and I got so sick. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.560 I was like, ah, it's brutal, but from the weather, 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.800 you mean, not the food, well, the food was not helpful. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.640 As you know, I eat a lot of press box food. 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.600 I don't eat much of that anymore, but I used to. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.240 You know, I still eat popcorn occasionally, but I can 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.360 add ladies and gentlemen that in the many years of 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.760 being in press boxes in Orange County, for example, with 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.240 one big band Meller, and he used to earn that 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.600 nickname in the old days. By the way, that when 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.600 I was covering Mighty Duck hockey games, for example, I 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.360 was there as a member of the working press. Ben 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:02.640 was enjoying the oatmeal raisin cookie step worth profitable. Now 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.040 technically I was on assignment for the Mighty six ninety, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:10.160 but I was enjoying the Yeah, they had those nights, 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.440 and I like the the what was the sugar cookies? 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.120 Those were good too. They remember the playoff when they 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.520 finally made the playoffs, and then a real hockey team, 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.960 the Detroit Red Wings, came to town and swept them. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.840 But one of those playoff games went past midnight, as 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.960 I recall, and then we with our post game show 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.360 I used to do. We were until I think two 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.240 in the morning something like that. I got to sleep 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.720 at four in the morning, but at midnight at the 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.840 hockey arena. They had rent of everything, even water at 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:42.280 the box. They were literally trying sending interns to different 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.680 parts of the arena to try and find something because 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.080 it went to a second overtime. Of course, hockey overtime 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.440 could go forever. Yeah. So for those who don't know, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.520 and you are a man of mystery, Steve, but you 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.320 he worked in Orange County. I first met you. Was 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.360 it It was k easy why right in the Arabs, 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.800 which used to be a legendary rock station. They had 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.880 an a m across the hall, which I know you 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.520 visited once. I love going to radio station. That was 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.040 very exciting to go to see I'm a radio nerd. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.080 It was cool to be there. Yeah, well anymore it's 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.080 kind of nerds in that way. But yeah, I worked 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:19.119 through nine until that place got sold. I worked in 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:23.239 Anaheim and that was a lot of years. Well by 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.560 the end of it, that was a Korean station. Later 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.640 I worked at when Pete Carroll's USC team was on radio. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.480 We had a Santa station in Santa Monica and we 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.240 carried USC and then that got sold and that became 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.160 a Korean station too. So I'm two for two standby 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.399 Fox Sports Radio so the investors who are looking to 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.960 tell yeah, boy, if they turned this network into a 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:50.080 Korean format in troubles, that would really think something. But 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.320 you hosted it was called Duck Calls, right, that was 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.600 the post game hockey talk, Yes Halls, and then you know, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.719 have the analyst on or what have you. And by 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.480 the end of it, you remember back when there were 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.320 there was a sports bar at Anaheim near the National 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.280 Sports Grill, the National Sports Grill. Yes, used to do 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.240 the show from there after the game and once the 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.879 parking getting out of the Ducks game was so bad, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.960 it was the closest I came to missing the start 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.320 of the show, which, as you know, is the truly 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.280 horrendous feeling. That's the stuff that for a radio person, 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.159 literal nightmares are made of. Yeah. I spent many a 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.320 night at the National Sports Grill, as you did. We 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.600 would hang out and we go we'd go there after 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.600 games and all the finger foods, the sampler by the 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.560 ten dollar sampler. Yeah. Were you there the night that 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.800 Jeff Juden uh famous? Were you there that night? Do 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.840 you remember the Jeff Judan incident? I'm not sure if 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.880 you were there that incident? No, Yeah, no, no, he 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:48.960 was a you know, he was a picture journeyman. Pitcher, 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:53.439 bounced around. The Angels picked him up, and so he 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.640 was like playing pool by himself at the sports bar. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.479 And so one of the guys went up and say, hey, 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.440 can you know you want you want play pool whatever? 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.360 And then he asked what we did and said when 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.440 the radio, and he said no, he wanted to play 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:12.600 by himself instead of hang out hanging out with us. 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.960 But yeah, the Nationals. So he basically said, no, I'm 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.080 a first round draft choice and you are the great 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.360 unwashed forget it. Yeah, but he's also the same guy, 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.879 if I remember correctly, who missed a start at the 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.080 beginning of the season when he was with Montreal because 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.720 he got a tattoo and it became infected. So oh, 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.800 which brings me to the great point, which be sure 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:35.240 to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.720 days at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.800 Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio AP. Be sure 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.560 to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.200 at two am eastern eleven pm Pacific. Frankly shows don't 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.240 do this enough. You were overnight show was always so 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:56.320 good and occasionally just conversationally like this bringing up odd 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.160 baseball injury. Yes, yes, you and I could go back 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.280 and forth forever with you know, hey, Ricky Henderson wants 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.680 fell asleep on his ice pack, or you know so 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.840 and so was playing guitar hero so much that he 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.600 actually hurt himself and couldn't pitch in the next game. 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.000 There's a long list of those injuries. Well, there's Sammy 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:19.400 snow Sammy so so sneezing and they claimed back back 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.080 problem for someone getting a hot flip where they set 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.440 your cleats on fire and he hopped up so much 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.760 he injured himself. My favorite is I think it was 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.760 Ivonne Calderoad of the American League at the hotel room 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.600 was having a nightmare of being chased by spiders. Oh 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:38.159 that was Glenn. That was Glenn Hill. And he in 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:42.240 his hotel room like crashed through a glass table. Yeah, 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.960 which a nightmare was. There's an outfield Marty Cordova, remember 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:50.280 Marty Cordova. Yes, he lay, he fell asleep and a 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:54.560 sun sunbathing machine or whatever and he that And I 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.879 always bring up Richie Sexon, which is one of the 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.720 greats of all time Ember in spring training. He showed up, 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.800 he was out of the lineup and he had he 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.960