Speaker 1: If you thought more hours a day dred minutes a
Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 1: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the
Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse to clearing house of
Speaker 1: hot takes. Break Free for Something Special Hour with Ben
Speaker 1: Maller starts right now that it does in the air Everywhere.
Speaker 1: Another podcast Pellosa kind of a day here as we
Speaker 1: are back the weekend kicking off because four hours a
Speaker 1: night are not enough. We do this eight days a week.
Speaker 1: We thank you for finding the podcast, We're supporting the podcast,
Speaker 1: for downloading the podcast, telling friends about the podcast, and
Speaker 1: we we do appreciate it. And joined by the guy
Speaker 1: West of the four oh five. He's on Gascon Time,
Speaker 1: right over David Gascon and making his way in to
Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm on I'm on two time zones, three
Speaker 1: time zones Pacific, Eastern and Central European time mclock A
Speaker 1: little like the brag about that you know what what
Speaker 1: you operate with? Darcy? What time do you? Guys? Usually
Speaker 1: go on Darcy down under Darcy walder Grave, which is
Speaker 1: on Saturday, mornings at eight in the morning eight your
Speaker 1: time in New Zealand time, but it's like eight thirty
Speaker 1: or something in the morning. But it's what's their time
Speaker 1: difference with us? Well, I do it at one thirty
Speaker 1: California time Pacific like nineteen is it nineteen hours or something?
Speaker 1: Not good weekend. Yeah, it's a different world. I mean
Speaker 1: they're ahead of every they are the beginning. What's the
Speaker 1: last time zone? I know they're the New Zealand and
Speaker 1: Australia like the first time zones where the clock turns
Speaker 1: over where it would it be? Guam? Is that the
Speaker 1: end of it? I don't know. I know that's a
Speaker 1: good question. What is the last times on the lot?
Speaker 1: That brings up the rear? Someone's got to be last
Speaker 1: if someone who celebrates New Year's last I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll look it up, all right, just google it. That's
Speaker 1: not what this is about, because this is about hanging
Speaker 1: out and chatting. We don't have guests. We have people
Speaker 1: that we like to talk to. And I am excited.
Speaker 1: This is a guy I go way back with, uh,
Speaker 1: someone that when I was a radio stringer, a radio
Speaker 1: reporter and covering games, I spent many a night, hanging
Speaker 1: out with this guy at games, after games, going to
Speaker 1: sports bars, eating cheeseburgers in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: having a grand old time. And someone that I encouraged
Speaker 1: to work at Fox Sports Radio, someone I wanted to
Speaker 1: get in because because the Fox Sports Radio, which bother
Speaker 1: Why does that bother you? Because you encouraged him to
Speaker 1: work here, and you encourage me to go work in China? Like,
Speaker 1: what kind of an asshole does that? I? I encourage
Speaker 1: you to work in China, West Virginia Baker's Field. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm looking out for you. Yeah, it's all about the story.
Speaker 1: You've got great stories. Now, Guessica, You've got great stories.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine me in China right now? I'll be wonderful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be telling. I'd be fucking. I'd been in blowhard
Speaker 1: right now. Hunt your anniversary, you would be big in China.
Speaker 1: You would be very big in China. Anyway, let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Steve Sager a man of mystery, the great
Speaker 1: Steve Disager, longtime radio personality in southern California, but on
Speaker 1: the nationale air waves for many, many years. But speaking
Speaker 1: of that, Steve, my memory is a bit hazy at
Speaker 1: this point. I do remember Fox Sports Radio before Steve
Speaker 1: Disager worked if Fox Sports Radio. But you have been
Speaker 1: a staple of the fs R radio family for how
Speaker 1: many years? How long has it been. Racing may not
Speaker 1: be that good at maths, it's certainly over a decade.
Speaker 1: It's closing in on fifteen I believe. Also at our
Speaker 1: anchor studio, I believe Dead Carson was hired two weeks
Speaker 1: before I was. So literally there's not been to my knowledge,
Speaker 1: there's not been a full time opening in fifteen years
Speaker 1: in the anchor studio because no one leaves. It's like you.
Speaker 1: I remember actually you brought me into the studios. Of
Speaker 1: course people probably know Fox Sports Radio headquartered in l A.
Speaker 1: And that was Deb's first night actually that she was working.
Speaker 1: And you said, oh, listen to this guy that's on
Speaker 1: the phone. He's reporting from college football, Dan Buyer. He's
Speaker 1: got the greatest job. He just gets to go to
Speaker 1: a different college football game every Saturday. That's all he
Speaker 1: does all season. And Dan is now, of course the
Speaker 1: head anchor. He has the titled manager of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's been a while. Yeah, And I thank you,
Speaker 1: by the way, because I remember when you and I
Speaker 1: would sit in press boxes for years that you used
Speaker 1: to live in Orange County as well, and when you
Speaker 1: went up to Fox, you would say more than once
Speaker 1: you know you ought to work there, and eventually guess
Speaker 1: what now now I work there. Well, No, listen, I
Speaker 1: I as you know to say, I think very little
Speaker 1: of many people in radio, but you're good and I
Speaker 1: like good people. And I thought you got We've got
Speaker 1: to get you in there, and I'm glad it didn't
Speaker 1: take long. It didn't take long to get you in there.
Speaker 1: But I remember deb Carson's first night. She came in
Speaker 1: all dressed up, and I like it with TV. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, Dad, we're doing an overnight weekend radio show.
Speaker 1: Are you doing? I mean, no one's here, and the
Speaker 1: trust me. If management comes in, it's only because the
Speaker 1: radio stations on fire. So that's the only where they're
Speaker 1: coming in, yea, or or the only other time. Literally,
Speaker 1: the only other time I've seen managed it in there
Speaker 1: on the weekends was when Andy Roddick and his hot
Speaker 1: wife were both in there on some show. I'm not
Speaker 1: kidding you. That's the only time I've seen management there
Speaker 1: on a Saturday. Well, no, I mean, listen, if there
Speaker 1: is if you look at the setup, there's an ex
Speaker 1: athlete in there, like a powerful person. I remember when
Speaker 1: the late Rush Limbaugh would come in during the week
Speaker 1: and it was like there were people screwing around trying
Speaker 1: to make sure everything was clean and you know, it
Speaker 1: was putting everything in the proper place, and all the
Speaker 1: executives were there. When when Rush would come walking into
Speaker 1: his studio, which was the studio was just a crown
Speaker 1: across the hall around the corner there what he would
Speaker 1: do when he was in l A and uh. But
Speaker 1: but other than that, I mean, I would you know
Speaker 1: I'm not there during the daytime during the week, which
Speaker 1: I guess you are, but I don't see I don't
Speaker 1: see anybody. I love that our offices are actually separate
Speaker 1: from the studio. You have to go outside across the
Speaker 1: plaza and go upstairs to where management is. So it's
Speaker 1: very rare that management comes in. That is a great
Speaker 1: thing for the workers. Just for the record, if something happens,
Speaker 1: you know, they can email you or let you know,
Speaker 1: but usually you don't see them. And as far as
Speaker 1: the worst story that I can remember, as far as
Speaker 1: people being asked to show up because somebody famous or
Speaker 1: somebody would pull stephen A. Smith. Do you remember that
Speaker 1: he was on our network briefly. Oh. Yes, he did
Speaker 1: the early morning show, and right before he was going
Speaker 1: to start that, they asked the board operator, Hey, can
Speaker 1: you come in and maybe you know a chance just
Speaker 1: say hello and something like that. And so it's a
Speaker 1: you know, what's four in the morning or something like that,
Speaker 1: and it didn't mean anything, and the show was off
Speaker 1: pretty soon after that. It was just workers are being
Speaker 1: asked to coddle same too often for my taste. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I remember stephen A. It's really amazing. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: you guys. The guy's a huge star at ESPN. But
Speaker 1: I remember when he started. He actually did a weekend
Speaker 1: show in the early days of Fox Sports Read. He
Speaker 1: was a columnist in Philadelphia before he went to ESPN,
Speaker 1: and he did a weekend talks with John Ireland. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Lakers annouswer for many years. So they did a
Speaker 1: show together on Saturday mornings, and uh, you know stephen A.
Speaker 1: You know, he would show up and he came he
Speaker 1: lived on the East coast, but he'd come into l
Speaker 1: A and he'd hang out, you know. Part of the year.
Speaker 1: He did the show from l A and I remember
Speaker 1: I was doing the you know, I was there on
Speaker 1: the weekend, so I ran into him a few times.
Speaker 1: And I'll never get one time John was late coming
Speaker 1: back from a Laker roacher. At that time, he was
Speaker 1: the sideline reporter for the Lakers, so he was traveling
Speaker 1: with the team, but he was late getting back and
Speaker 1: Stephen A had to do the show by himself, and
Speaker 1: he was at that time he hadn't had a lot
Speaker 1: of experience working by himself. And you know, Steve, it
Speaker 1: is a much different animal when you do a talk
Speaker 1: radio show by yourself than when you've got that well no,
Speaker 1: I mean you've done some talk as well and the past,
Speaker 1: but but it's it's like it's a totally the preparation,
Speaker 1: the amount of laser like focus, and Stephen was not
Speaker 1: quite prepared for that at that time. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the few people that
Speaker 1: was listening. But it was very awkward. It was very awkward,
Speaker 1: but obviously didn't hold him back. And then and then
Speaker 1: he got let go by ESPN and he came back
Speaker 1: and you're right, and they gave him the morning show
Speaker 1: at Fox, which means by the way it's an l
Speaker 1: A studio. Three am Pacific I think is when it started,
Speaker 1: so it would be morning drive on the East. And
Speaker 1: then the reason why it didn't last, I am told,
Speaker 1: is because then he couldn't be a games or what
Speaker 1: have you in the evening because he had to wake
Speaker 1: up so early. First thought, maybe maybe we didn't know this. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to change the time of
Speaker 1: the games to accommodate anybody. I mean, I'm going out
Speaker 1: of a limb there putting my neck out on that one, Steve.
Speaker 1: I'm putting my neck out maybe for you Mr Leiden,
Speaker 1: you know, forget the weekends, for you have on the
Speaker 1: late night during the week for quite some time. And now,
Speaker 1: of course with the podcast you're making the big bucks.
Speaker 1: Who had a big bucks off a podcast? Well you
Speaker 1: know I'm raising my hand over here, yes, Scott playing
Speaker 1: every long have you had this podcast? Out? By the way,
Speaker 1: here's six months days everything behind the calendar. I could
Speaker 1: buy a book of stamps now with the money I've
Speaker 1: made off this. So, in other words, if finally come
Speaker 1: to your last guest on the list, and that I
Speaker 1: was asked to be on the show for full blown discolosure.
Speaker 1: He ridiculed me for booking you on the that I
Speaker 1: have text messages. Here's what happens I had. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: I try to book ahead, right, we try to book ahead.
Speaker 1: I try to book ahead, and I try to book
Speaker 1: I try to book ahead and booking a guest two
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I'll tell you who I failed miserably. A
Speaker 1: second so I got an email from the publicist of
Speaker 1: Michael Kay. You know who Michael Ka is to say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Yankees announcer. Right, So he wrote a book and
Speaker 1: he wanted to promote the book, and so he does
Speaker 1: an afternoon drive show on the ESPN station in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: So he's very proud of that. Yes, and he beat
Speaker 1: Mike Francesse in the ratings and he loves it, let
Speaker 1: you know that. Yeah. So anyway, like he can't we
Speaker 1: normally record at the time his shows on in New York,
Speaker 1: so obviously he can't do that. So I've been logistically
Speaker 1: trying to work out with his publicist when we could
Speaker 1: get Michael on to do this podcast. So I gave
Speaker 1: them a bunch of times, which would mean I'd have
Speaker 1: to stay up even later, which is fine. I mean
Speaker 1: I do it and record it, and so I'm playing
Speaker 1: email tag with the publicist. The guy gets back to
Speaker 1: me on Tuesdays. Is because we were supposed to it
Speaker 1: was supposed to tap something with Michael Kay on Wednesday
Speaker 1: or Thursday, and he said, I can't. You know, he
Speaker 1: can't do it. And I'm still efforting, which when somebody
Speaker 1: says they're efforting, that means they're not doing it. The
Speaker 1: efforting means they're not It's not gonna happen. So then
Speaker 1: I I said, all right, we we gotta get somebody
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I went to the guest and then
Speaker 1: Gascon was like totally gobsmacked, totally like flummixed by the
Speaker 1: whole the whole situation. So that's I do have a
Speaker 1: suggestion at this point of the podcast that you could
Speaker 1: probably get Clipper Daryl because he is always available at
Speaker 1: this time of year. You know. Yeah, that's true. And
Speaker 1: by the way, to say you're listen, I mean, Fillows
Speaker 1: don't know. One of the reasons I like you is
Speaker 1: I remember you wearing Clipper paraphernalia. Oh yeah, I used
Speaker 1: to go to we would have people visit from out
Speaker 1: of town. We would go to Clipper games. It would.
Speaker 1: It could always be easier ticket to get. You want
Speaker 1: a jacket, right, a Clipper jacket. Yes, I was given
Speaker 1: to it when I when I worked in Anaheim, I
Speaker 1: was given those what is it, silk sat and jackets
Speaker 1: the eighties, things that you would be like on Lakers
Speaker 1: Finals videos where the ball boy is wearing the you know,
Speaker 1: I got one of those with the Clippers and it's
Speaker 1: the blue. I love those blue Clipper colors in the past.
Speaker 1: I still have it. Yeah, no, I remember you would
Speaker 1: wear that from time to time. And it was that's
Speaker 1: why the Clippers of the People's team steve because you
Speaker 1: can go the old the sports marine is gone in
Speaker 1: l A. But you could go there and you can
Speaker 1: get a ticket. The sports it was a dump. It
Speaker 1: was Are you going to tell the story? Because you
Speaker 1: used to cover Clipper games next to the color see
Speaker 1: Um in downtown l A. I remember once where were
Speaker 1: you playing? Like some touch football game in the parking lot?
Speaker 1: A game like midnight downtown? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just
Speaker 1: not far from South Central. Yeah we we would, you
Speaker 1: know in my my as you notice, if I grew
Speaker 1: up out there in my twenties going to games and
Speaker 1: I had no girlfriend. I had no life. I had.
Speaker 1: My life was revolving around my job covering the games.
Speaker 1: And yeah, we would play in the parking lot, just
Speaker 1: in the shadow of the coliseum, next to the l
Speaker 1: A Sports Arenia. We would play like football in the
Speaker 1: middle of like after they get to cover the games,
Speaker 1: you know, get out of there, like eleven o'clock, maybe
Speaker 1: after the game when you do the post game stuff.
Speaker 1: And who doesn't want to hang around downtown l A midnight. Yeah, especially,
Speaker 1: I mean those days. As you know, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit better now in that area because they build a
Speaker 1: soccer stadium there. I would built right on top of
Speaker 1: where the Clippers used to play, next to the color Yeah.
Speaker 1: The last time I was in the sports arena, I
Speaker 1: was at it. I was coming at USC Notre Dame
Speaker 1: game and the the parking was all messed up, so
Speaker 1: the overflow parking was on the floor of the l
Speaker 1: A Memorial Sports so I parked. I parked the mallon
Speaker 1: Wibile on the floor. Steve, I had a photo. I
Speaker 1: can't find it. I have it somewhere here. And that
Speaker 1: was That's an arena that has hosted NBA Finals games,
Speaker 1: n c A tournament, hosted the Democratic Convention with Kennedy
Speaker 1: when it was new. That's how old that, Yes, and
Speaker 1: my last memory is parking my car on the floor
Speaker 1: of the arena. Uh it was. I do recall after
Speaker 1: one of those midnight football games, you came down ill
Speaker 1: and we're not able to cover the next game or
Speaker 1: two because of that. Well, I had some you know
Speaker 1: what I really got. The sickest I got was in
Speaker 1: ninety five after the baseball strike of I remember they
Speaker 1: didn't play at the beginning of the year, and so
Speaker 1: after we had missed the World Series. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: they came back and they had to they had to
Speaker 1: kind of jam in as many games as they could.
Speaker 1: And so, and I'm such a knucklebole concept, they'll never
Speaker 1: try that again in any sport. Yeah, exactly. So I
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go out there and
Speaker 1: you know, cover every game and the dot it was
Speaker 1: literally every day Dodges and Angels were playing like you know,
Speaker 1: either one was home and the one and so I
Speaker 1: I went out of so much and I got so sick.
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, it's brutal, but from the weather,
Speaker 1: you mean, not the food, well, the food was not helpful.
Speaker 1: As you know, I eat a lot of press box food.
Speaker 1: I don't eat much of that anymore, but I used to.
Speaker 1: You know, I still eat popcorn occasionally, but I can
Speaker 1: add ladies and gentlemen that in the many years of
Speaker 1: being in press boxes in Orange County, for example, with
Speaker 1: one big band Meller, and he used to earn that
Speaker 1: nickname in the old days. By the way, that when
Speaker 1: I was covering Mighty Duck hockey games, for example, I
Speaker 1: was there as a member of the working press. Ben
Speaker 1: was enjoying the oatmeal raisin cookie step worth profitable. Now
Speaker 1: technically I was on assignment for the Mighty six ninety,
Speaker 1: but I was enjoying the Yeah, they had those nights,
Speaker 1: and I like the the what was the sugar cookies?
Speaker 1: Those were good too. They remember the playoff when they
Speaker 1: finally made the playoffs, and then a real hockey team,
Speaker 1: the Detroit Red Wings, came to town and swept them.
Speaker 1: But one of those playoff games went past midnight, as
Speaker 1: I recall, and then we with our post game show
Speaker 1: I used to do. We were until I think two
Speaker 1: in the morning something like that. I got to sleep
Speaker 1: at four in the morning, but at midnight at the
Speaker 1: hockey arena. They had rent of everything, even water at
Speaker 1: the box. They were literally trying sending interns to different
Speaker 1: parts of the arena to try and find something because
Speaker 1: it went to a second overtime. Of course, hockey overtime
Speaker 1: could go forever. Yeah. So for those who don't know,
Speaker 1: and you are a man of mystery, Steve, but you
Speaker 1: he worked in Orange County. I first met you. Was
Speaker 1: it It was k easy why right in the Arabs,
Speaker 1: which used to be a legendary rock station. They had
Speaker 1: an a m across the hall, which I know you
Speaker 1: visited once. I love going to radio station. That was
Speaker 1: very exciting to go to see I'm a radio nerd.
Speaker 1: It was cool to be there. Yeah, well anymore it's
Speaker 1: kind of nerds in that way. But yeah, I worked
Speaker 1: through nine until that place got sold. I worked in
Speaker 1: Anaheim and that was a lot of years. Well by
Speaker 1: the end of it, that was a Korean station. Later
Speaker 1: I worked at when Pete Carroll's USC team was on radio.
Speaker 1: We had a Santa station in Santa Monica and we
Speaker 1: carried USC and then that got sold and that became
Speaker 1: a Korean station too. So I'm two for two standby
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio so the investors who are looking to
Speaker 1: tell yeah, boy, if they turned this network into a
Speaker 1: Korean format in troubles, that would really think something. But
Speaker 1: you hosted it was called Duck Calls, right, that was
Speaker 1: the post game hockey talk, Yes Halls, and then you know,
Speaker 1: have the analyst on or what have you. And by
Speaker 1: the end of it, you remember back when there were
Speaker 1: there was a sports bar at Anaheim near the National
Speaker 1: Sports Grill, the National Sports Grill. Yes, used to do
Speaker 1: the show from there after the game and once the
Speaker 1: parking getting out of the Ducks game was so bad,
Speaker 1: it was the closest I came to missing the start
Speaker 1: of the show, which, as you know, is the truly
Speaker 1: horrendous feeling. That's the stuff that for a radio person,
Speaker 1: literal nightmares are made of. Yeah. I spent many a
Speaker 1: night at the National Sports Grill, as you did. We
Speaker 1: would hang out and we go we'd go there after
Speaker 1: games and all the finger foods, the sampler by the
Speaker 1: ten dollar sampler. Yeah. Were you there the night that
Speaker 1: Jeff Juden uh famous? Were you there that night? Do
Speaker 1: you remember the Jeff Judan incident? I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: you were there that incident? No, Yeah, no, no, he
Speaker 1: was a you know, he was a picture journeyman. Pitcher,
Speaker 1: bounced around. The Angels picked him up, and so he
Speaker 1: was like playing pool by himself at the sports bar.
Speaker 1: And so one of the guys went up and say, hey,
Speaker 1: can you know you want you want play pool whatever?
Speaker 1: And then he asked what we did and said when
Speaker 1: the radio, and he said no, he wanted to play
Speaker 1: by himself instead of hang out hanging out with us.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Nationals. So he basically said, no, I'm
Speaker 1: a first round draft choice and you are the great
Speaker 1: unwashed forget it. Yeah, but he's also the same guy,
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, who missed a start at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season when he was with Montreal because
Speaker 1: he got a tattoo and it became infected. So oh,
Speaker 1: which brings me to the great point, which be sure
Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week
Speaker 1: days at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio AP. Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays
Speaker 1: at two am eastern eleven pm Pacific. Frankly shows don't
Speaker 1: do this enough. You were overnight show was always so
Speaker 1: good and occasionally just conversationally like this bringing up odd
Speaker 1: baseball injury. Yes, yes, you and I could go back
Speaker 1: and forth forever with you know, hey, Ricky Henderson wants
Speaker 1: fell asleep on his ice pack, or you know so
Speaker 1: and so was playing guitar hero so much that he
Speaker 1: actually hurt himself and couldn't pitch in the next game.
Speaker 1: There's a long list of those injuries. Well, there's Sammy
Speaker 1: snow Sammy so so sneezing and they claimed back back
Speaker 1: problem for someone getting a hot flip where they set
Speaker 1: your cleats on fire and he hopped up so much
Speaker 1: he injured himself. My favorite is I think it was
Speaker 1: Ivonne Calderoad of the American League at the hotel room
Speaker 1: was having a nightmare of being chased by spiders. Oh
Speaker 1: that was Glenn. That was Glenn Hill. And he in
Speaker 1: his hotel room like crashed through a glass table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which a nightmare was. There's an outfield Marty Cordova, remember
Speaker 1: Marty Cordova. Yes, he lay, he fell asleep and a
Speaker 1: sun sunbathing machine or whatever and he that And I
Speaker 1: always bring up Richie Sexon, which is one of the
Speaker 1: greats of all time Ember in spring training. He showed up,
Speaker 1: he was out of the lineup and he had he
Speaker 1: really nasty headaches. They thought maybe he had some kind
Speaker 1: of cancer in the brain or something like that, and
Speaker 1: it turned out he's just wearing a hat that was
Speaker 1: too small and he didn't he didn't get on that one.
Speaker 1: I did bring this up actually recently on Fox with
Speaker 1: Brian Know who's a cardinal saying because I brought up
Speaker 1: the Vince Coleman injury, people who are younger than we
Speaker 1: probably don't remember that. For the National League Championship Series,
Speaker 1: the best stolen baseman in the league was not available
Speaker 1: because he got his foot run over by the rain
Speaker 1: tarp on the side of the field the tarp injury.
Speaker 1: Wasn't he part of the firecrackers at Dodger Stadium? Was
Speaker 1: he involved in that? Also? You know you covered Dodgers
Speaker 1: longer than I. I I believe you have stories also lorker
Speaker 1: than I. Regarding the old days have done. I have
Speaker 1: a few. I know a few of where the few
Speaker 1: of the bodies are buried there. And remember there was
Speaker 1: a player for the Marlins, Chris uh Coglin. Remember he
Speaker 1: one of the shaving cream Poesy they had won a
Speaker 1: game and they he got injured after a walk off
Speaker 1: win because of a shaving cream pie in the face.
Speaker 1: He tore some ligament in his leg, which is odd
Speaker 1: to me, but I mean, yeah, we used to Weller
Speaker 1: cut his finger once playing with the drone. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the playoff start that was missing. We longed
Speaker 1: for the days when that was the Trivor Bauer story
Speaker 1: that we talked about. We long for speak of longing
Speaker 1: for days. I don't know if you remember this, Ben,
Speaker 1: but Steve, we talked about this the day. I have
Speaker 1: an old picture of YouTube Knuckleheads media day Dog Stadium Man, Steve, Steve,
Speaker 1: you look exactly the same, I probably do you know?
Speaker 1: There was this four and it was one of the
Speaker 1: great points of our professional life that we could actually
Speaker 1: play a baseball game at the field of Dodgers Stadium.
Speaker 1: But the Dodgers for many years would have like before
Speaker 1: a Saturday night game, they would with nobody in the
Speaker 1: attendance at Dodger Stadium, they would have a game between
Speaker 1: the print media against the electronic media of Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and they would give you uniforms for the day and
Speaker 1: you can take batting practice and shag flies in the outfield,
Speaker 1: and the field was yours for the whole day, and
Speaker 1: I saw one Ben Maller hit a ball on a
Speaker 1: bounce to the left field wall. It was a stunning
Speaker 1: distance for a media member at Dodger Stadium, the same
Speaker 1: place where Mike Piazza and all these other guys were
Speaker 1: hitting back in that decade. I do remember the knee
Speaker 1: injury at first base, but I got easy the left. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I attempted to run, which was a mistake, and
Speaker 1: I hit the first base bag in my leg kind
Speaker 1: of went all over the place and I ended up
Speaker 1: on the Channel eleven news in l A that night.
Speaker 1: Randy Cardoon put me on the Channel eleven. One of
Speaker 1: our players, yes it was the Arcia, was on the team.
Speaker 1: Student Ahan, who was the TV guy in l A
Speaker 1: before Fred Rogan at Channel four. Stu was like the
Speaker 1: player manager of our electronic media team. And it got
Speaker 1: late in STUSI years where he couldn't run. And so
Speaker 1: I was only there maybe two or three different summers
Speaker 1: at these media games at the stadium, but one of
Speaker 1: them I was there. My name wasn't on a list,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't get into the lineup. But I'm still there.
Speaker 1: I still got a uniform on, and Stu couldn't run,
Speaker 1: So I was his pinch runner for every at bat
Speaker 1: that he had, and he I would He was a
Speaker 1: left handed hitter. This is student a hand who was
Speaker 1: a local legend, but also like was the announcer in
Speaker 1: the Rocky movies all of this, So he batting left,
Speaker 1: he would swing and if he made contact, I would
Speaker 1: standing there near the right hand batters Buck Dodger Stadium,
Speaker 1: run down to first. I wasn't a pinch runner like
Speaker 1: you take over at first base from home like at
Speaker 1: a T Bowl game or something. I'm running for Stu
Speaker 1: and I wound up coming around to score and it
Speaker 1: was one one and you mentioned on the local news.
Speaker 1: Our game winning run that night was on the local
Speaker 1: news because a Martinez who could play, wound up having
Speaker 1: this great slide at home and then we all celebrated,
Speaker 1: throwing water on each other. It was a great, great night,
Speaker 1: and hitting a in a previous game, a line single
Speaker 1: the right center remains one of the highlights of my
Speaker 1: professional career. Yeah, I'm right there with you when I
Speaker 1: I'm glad you were there, and I would have that
Speaker 1: would have been a home run. Distick. I used a
Speaker 1: Corey Snyder wooden bat, and if I had used a
Speaker 1: metal bat, I am convinced that that would have been
Speaker 1: a home run. And I'm a knucklehead because I wanted
Speaker 1: to use a wooden bat and they had metal bats
Speaker 1: there and she shouldn't used the metal bat. And I
Speaker 1: also remember, Steve, what was it? What was the guy's
Speaker 1: There was a guy that was a ringer from Long
Speaker 1: Beach State? Remember the guy that Stu brought in? Really,
Speaker 1: because there have been many Long Beach Steak guys into
Speaker 1: the pros. By the way, Corey Snyder played Olympic Baseball
Speaker 1: when Dodger Stadium hosted the games. He was on that
Speaker 1: game with Chris Gwann and some others. Remember we were
Speaker 1: losing one year. I don't know if you were there
Speaker 1: that year, and Stu had brought in a guy from
Speaker 1: Long Beach State as a ringer to play in the game,
Speaker 1: and he tried to sneak him into the lineup for
Speaker 1: some extra at bats there because we were behind. And
Speaker 1: then at one point ste realized there's so many ex
Speaker 1: players in the media that he could get ex players
Speaker 1: to play on the media team, and and kind of
Speaker 1: give us ringers in that like Rick Monday pinch hit
Speaker 1: or something exactly exactly. You have a bonus, Well didn't you?
Speaker 1: Didn't you hit against Rick Hunty cut the law. I
Speaker 1: gotta hate against Rick Honeycutt a base at the center field.
Speaker 1: Rick Huneycutt led the American League and earn run average
Speaker 1: in like three I think, no, listen, listen if you
Speaker 1: want to play Ben mallar bingo, there you go that.
Speaker 1: But who would I describe you as I think your
Speaker 1: style to say you were like von Hayes. You were
Speaker 1: reminded me of Vaughn Hayes, like when he was kind
Speaker 1: of skinny. Yeah, because you were skinny. You were leaving
Speaker 1: a mean like who else? Unlike von Hayes. With the Angels,
Speaker 1: I did not make the five million dollars a year, which, then,
Speaker 1: as you recall, forced Jackie Autry to start charging the
Speaker 1: media four meals. But that was it when they started
Speaker 1: paying Von Hayes and here we breath. Well, how great
Speaker 1: is it now? I haven't been to an Angel game
Speaker 1: in years. The last time I went to an Angel
Speaker 1: game was when Artie Marino got upset with t J.
Speaker 1: Simers because of a Columny wrote and moved the press
Speaker 1: box down near the foul pol still there, I understand
Speaker 1: the press had very few seats in a suite way
Speaker 1: down the right field line, and some of the seats
Speaker 1: you cannot see home played from. Did you guys tell
Speaker 1: I mean I remember this. I think last season at
Speaker 1: least when we were a lot of Dodgers stadium. Steve Well,
Speaker 1: we were there, all three of us were there together.
Speaker 1: But Steve, I think you're mentioned that. I forget who.
Speaker 1: I don't know what former owner was, don't know sorta.
Speaker 1: But they would come into the press box and start
Speaker 1: hunting down reporters. Oh, I was there when Stan Caston
Speaker 1: lent loose on bill shaking of the l A in
Speaker 1: the Dodger press box. What was that about? It was
Speaker 1: about the Dodgers had just announced that they were going
Speaker 1: to have the All Star Game, which of course has
Speaker 1: now been for a couple of years postponed. They still
Speaker 1: had the All Star sign up in the stadium, not
Speaker 1: moving that, uh, and so something else, uh came into
Speaker 1: the l a Times article that wasn't more, you know,
Speaker 1: the pr piece that he wanted for this great day
Speaker 1: of announcing the Dodgers are going to host the All
Speaker 1: Star Game in the first time in the decade. So
Speaker 1: he with I believe his kid or nephew, her grandson
Speaker 1: in toe looked through the press box seat said we're shaken,
Speaker 1: and then went after him like like I have not
Speaker 1: seen in a Los Angeles press box happened before. Well,
Speaker 1: I was there the night Steve when remember Tommy Losorda
Speaker 1: was the briefly the general manager of the Dodgers after
Speaker 1: his managerial days. Yes, yeah, and it was. It was
Speaker 1: hilarious because and I loved I love Tommy, and Tommy
Speaker 1: he said, listen, you guys can write whatever you wrot.
Speaker 1: I don't care, you know whatever. So then like a
Speaker 1: week later, Doug Krikorian wrote something nasty about Losorda in
Speaker 1: his column in Coin of Columis and Long Beach, and
Speaker 1: Losorta came in the press Where's where's decor and where's dog?
Speaker 1: And he's like trying to hunt down Grigorian. And he
Speaker 1: was in the in the media dining room, and any
Speaker 1: Tommy comes over and just reads him the riot act.
Speaker 1: It was well, of course, even when Tommy was happy
Speaker 1: with you, you didn't want to be next to Tommy speaking,
Speaker 1: because that's I recall once I was sitting with Chris
Speaker 1: Myers and Bill mcdonaldson and some people in the Dodger
Speaker 1: dining room that you mentioned, and Tommy comes up because
Speaker 1: he knew then started to chat with him. But he's
Speaker 1: standing over my shoulder. I needed a rain flicker, man.
Speaker 1: Just it's just it's like, you know, the Indian name
Speaker 1: Dances with Wolves. Tommy would have been spits when he talks,
Speaker 1: because it just was always the case, don't be around him.
Speaker 1: Nice guy. He could be a fun guy. But you
Speaker 1: saw Colin that used to be his personal assistant for
Speaker 1: many years. I always felt so far so sorry for
Speaker 1: Coline because he would really take it on the chin
Speaker 1: sometime being around Tommy that often. Yeah, And it's funny.
Speaker 1: When I started covering the Dodgers, sort of was still
Speaker 1: managing the team, and so I would go in there,
Speaker 1: and it was two different personalities that when the Dodgers
Speaker 1: won a game, he was out in front. You know,
Speaker 1: they had the spread of food in his office, so
Speaker 1: the players had to come into his office to eat
Speaker 1: after the game. So there'd be a stream of players
Speaker 1: on their way out. They'd get a doggie bag and
Speaker 1: go home or whatever. Sometimes they eat in the clubhouse,
Speaker 1: and but when they won sort of would sit on
Speaker 1: the front of his desk smiling, bubbling, you know, and
Speaker 1: then when they lost, he'd sit behind his desk eating
Speaker 1: and not stopping eating while he was answering the question.
Speaker 1: And if someone as you know, you Steve getting audio here,
Speaker 1: it yeah, I mean it's and then he would spit
Speaker 1: all over the mic, you know, the mic cover that
Speaker 1: I had, and it was yeah. Well. Also, it's like
Speaker 1: when Jim Tracy was the manager of the Dodgers, not
Speaker 1: that many years later. He would always answer your questions
Speaker 1: putting the first name of the person who asked it
Speaker 1: into his answer, which would also ruin your audio. You know,
Speaker 1: in the third inning Steve, well great, if your name's
Speaker 1: not Steve, you're probably not to be able to use that.
Speaker 1: Because I think one of the last times with Tommy
Speaker 1: and food, which was such a huge part of his
Speaker 1: life honestly that I was around him, was you know,
Speaker 1: our friend Petro's, who's the famous local TV host on
Speaker 1: our l A affiliate. Petro's happened to be in the
Speaker 1: company suite at Dodger Stadium for one particular night just
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and he his family because
Speaker 1: his family owned a restaurant, they knew Tommy for a year.
Speaker 1: Uncle Tommy, he without fail always called him. So Petro's
Speaker 1: had the suite for the night. It's his family, his
Speaker 1: people only. And they called down to where Lasorda always
Speaker 1: sat near the home dugout, and they asked if he
Speaker 1: could come up and signed some autographs and take pictures,
Speaker 1: and sure enough he did. By the sixth sending, the
Speaker 1: door opens and incomes driving you know those little carts
Speaker 1: like the people wheel through the aisles of the supermarket.
Speaker 1: Tommy was in one of those, and he took every
Speaker 1: picture and signed every autograph, and then everybody filed out
Speaker 1: before the game was over. And then it winds up
Speaker 1: just Tommy and me in the sweet and a bunch
Speaker 1: of food. So of course Tommy is very interested. Even
Speaker 1: his security guy had left to go repark the car,
Speaker 1: get it near the entrance, getting ready to leave, and
Speaker 1: Tommy looks over at the spread, which of course there's
Speaker 1: plenty left. Wow, what have we got here? So I'm
Speaker 1: trying to see what's in the middle of the sandwiches
Speaker 1: for him, and so I give him one of these
Speaker 1: half a sandwiches on the paper plate, and he looks
Speaker 1: at me like, come on, like get a little more.
Speaker 1: He got diny sandwiches left over here is his His
Speaker 1: exact words was, they're just going to throw it away.
Speaker 1: So by the end of me piling on and the
Speaker 1: chicken fingers and everything else, and literally bottles of water
Speaker 1: that hadn't been opened yet, all in the little cart
Speaker 1: basket in the front of the scooter that he had,
Speaker 1: he went out a much heavier cart that he came in. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's why he's right. Not the water bottles if it's
Speaker 1: freeze for me. That was always the case with Tommy.
Speaker 1: I remember one of the Dodger reporters telling me that
Speaker 1: Tommy went back to Philly. He was from Pennsylvania. A
Speaker 1: guy said, hey, come by my tailor shop and you
Speaker 1: can have I'll give you. I'll give you a suit,
Speaker 1: And of course Tommy for sure went over there. So
Speaker 1: he got measured and spent the whole afternoon there and
Speaker 1: then he comes to the counter with three suits and
Speaker 1: the looks and is sheepish and says, Tommy, I can
Speaker 1: I can really only do one suit for free, And
Speaker 1: Tommy just blew up and through the sittem not worth
Speaker 1: this time. Well, it was like that old the Jim
Speaker 1: Healy Show, Freeloaders, Updates, Media, Freeloaders, Media Dateline, Dodger Stadium,
Speaker 1: And yeah, that is the radio show that we even
Speaker 1: long before I knew you used to always listen to.
Speaker 1: Jim Healy would have a sports commentary show in afternoon
Speaker 1: Drive where he would now it's commonplace on sports radio
Speaker 1: that the board operator will play little sound bites clips
Speaker 1: into the show and they can be really creative and funny.
Speaker 1: Jim Healy's entire show was that every couple of sentences.
Speaker 1: And the thing is he was his own board up.
Speaker 1: He would be reaching for the cart machine to play
Speaker 1: while he was trying to read his own script, which
Speaker 1: in itself was sometimes comical. Well, and the technology that
Speaker 1: we have today compared to how he did it is
Speaker 1: just as you reference there, is insane. And he was
Speaker 1: a big influence on why I wanted to get into radio,
Speaker 1: The Jim Healy Show. And I remember when I started,
Speaker 1: and I started like nineteen years old, and Healy was
Speaker 1: still on, and everyone would at five thirty wanted to
Speaker 1: go out and here in the parking lot and hear
Speaker 1: what he really was gonna say and the dreaded six
Speaker 1: o'clock tone, and it's it's you mentioned Stunahan, the manager
Speaker 1: of our media team. But when I first met Stew
Speaker 1: as a media again, and I'm still a kid, you know,
Speaker 1: I watched it on TV growing up, but my memory
Speaker 1: of Stu every time I saw him was in the
Speaker 1: press dining room at Dodger Stadium or somewhere else eating,
Speaker 1: and I just read. My mind would go to, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, silver tips, Stew they called, and he would
Speaker 1: only lay a sound effect of pigs snorting when he
Speaker 1: mentioned media preloaders and all the food they would come
Speaker 1: to appropriate And it didn't really matter when I would
Speaker 1: try to get there earlier games, you know, because I
Speaker 1: want to soak it all in. And no matter when
Speaker 1: I got there, Stool was already eating in the press room.
Speaker 1: It was. It was unbelievable. And also, Healy, I mentioned
Speaker 1: Kurt machines. Everything that used to play on the air
Speaker 1: and radio backs and had to literally be on tape,
Speaker 1: you know, something advanced from cassette tapes, but something you
Speaker 1: could physically touch hold. And now I remember you telling
Speaker 1: me when you first started at Fox didn't you start
Speaker 1: as the job I have that David and I have
Speaker 1: as anchor before you got into your own show, And
Speaker 1: that meant you had to find the sound bites of
Speaker 1: the ball games or something to play in your report,
Speaker 1: but nothing was on physical tape. It was a new system,
Speaker 1: the computer base, where you could just press play and
Speaker 1: just as easily delete something accidentally. Yeah, yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: when I got in I I one of my first games.
Speaker 1: When I was in San Diego as an intern, I
Speaker 1: had to pull the carts the spots for the for
Speaker 1: the shows, and they technology obviously changed over the years.
Speaker 1: And well, but when you were an anchor, I do
Speaker 1: remember one point where you you did some home run
Speaker 1: happened and you did accidentally delete it out of the No,
Speaker 1: there were some epic disasters when I was that you
Speaker 1: said for the next three reports you kept replaying the
Speaker 1: play by play of a single by Craig Pocket like
Speaker 1: that big Well you play all you had you playing
Speaker 1: with you? Yeah, because the editing there's an editing department
Speaker 1: with a lot of people behind the scenes that edit
Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio and and you know, underappreciated, underpaid
Speaker 1: behind the scenes people. But in the in the early days,
Speaker 1: some of the hosts were complaining, we didn't have any sounds,
Speaker 1: so they they had Craig who's in the back there,
Speaker 1: they had him and there was that was it had
Speaker 1: one editor and and then the anchor was expected to
Speaker 1: cut up the sound as they were, you know, doing
Speaker 1: their job or whatever. And we all used to I
Speaker 1: used to do that in Anaheim. Used to used to
Speaker 1: wait for the ABC feed to give me the evening sound.
Speaker 1: Had a late night show, and I can actually get
Speaker 1: sound from games that happened that night. It was revolutionary.
Speaker 1: People don't remember that. When we were tiny kids the
Speaker 1: five o'clock news, the only baseball highlights you would see
Speaker 1: was if there was a Cubs game because they could
Speaker 1: take the highlight off w g N or something other
Speaker 1: than that. Even before that, they used to literally have
Speaker 1: to film the local ball game and come back and
Speaker 1: develop the film at the station, So they rarely had
Speaker 1: highlights from the late innings because they needed the extra time.
Speaker 1: So when you go to Dodger Stadium now and they
Speaker 1: talk about any Dodger great Don Sutton in history or something,
Speaker 1: usually the only highlights you will see will be stuff
Speaker 1: that was televised, like a playoff game. There usually weren't
Speaker 1: a lot of regular season home games carried or film
Speaker 1: available from regular season games. Yeah. Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: fun fact, I don't know if I've told you this,
Speaker 1: maybe I have so years ago. Wrong Button Bob Garap
Speaker 1: we call him wrong Button Bobby. He's shut down. He
Speaker 1: I told him to reset my computer. You have to
Speaker 1: go into the what called the rack room, an all
Speaker 1: computer room kept at a very controlled temperature on like
Speaker 1: some of the other rooms. Yeah, that's where the that's
Speaker 1: where the brains are the heart of Fox Sports radios,
Speaker 1: the technology stuff. So, and there's literally computers everywhere you
Speaker 1: look and all this stuff. So he said, can you
Speaker 1: reset my computer? S S You're no problem. So he
Speaker 1: goes in the back to reset the computer, and he
Speaker 1: hit a button that we didn't know exist. He shut
Speaker 1: the entire network off the air, thus the nickname wrong
Speaker 1: Button Bob. And so the most amazing thing is he
Speaker 1: didn't lose his job. The second most amazing thing is
Speaker 1: that we found out the emergency programming. If FSR goes
Speaker 1: off the air, they have up in the master control.
Speaker 1: They click a switch and they put emergency programming on right,
Speaker 1: And so the emergency programming. The first voice was you.
Speaker 1: It was Steve the Seger. Yes, you were on the
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be an evergreen fee, but it was
Speaker 1: you giving college basketball scores. And this was like during
Speaker 1: the summer, which doesn't make a lot of sense, and
Speaker 1: so there wouldn't be dead air give old scores. But
Speaker 1: you're You're happy to know, Steve, if there's like a
Speaker 1: nuclear disaster or some kind of global event where network
Speaker 1: goes off the air, your voice will be played because
Speaker 1: I'm sure they haven't changed that. I'm sure it's the same,
Speaker 1: the same audio that they've just kept there for all
Speaker 1: these years, just in case anything. Happy who says you
Speaker 1: don't learn anything on podcast, that's right, even on one,
Speaker 1: I just learned something I didn't know. Yeah, absolutely, Now
Speaker 1: what then, you have been very good at staying off
Speaker 1: of Like you're on social media, but you're not on
Speaker 1: social media. Give you credit, fact because I hate social
Speaker 1: media and I'm on there for work, but I pick
Speaker 1: and choose. I don't get paid to be on social media, right,
Speaker 1: that's my argument. I don't get paid. I get paid
Speaker 1: by Fox. I don't get paid by the people in
Speaker 1: Twitter or whatever. You already have a brand unlike some people.
Speaker 1: Well no, but I mean I go on there. I mean,
Speaker 1: people get upset when you got to, you know, deal
Speaker 1: with the Troulton. I don't have to deal with the
Speaker 1: trolls when I feel like I'll deal with the trolls.
Speaker 1: But you've been able to avoid that. I give you
Speaker 1: credit for that, Steve, because I never have felt like
Speaker 1: I wanted this. As much as I adore sports, I
Speaker 1: really do, but I just didn't want the job to
Speaker 1: consume me. There are days that you know, they won't
Speaker 1: let me work, and I just want to take those
Speaker 1: days off. I'll still watch whatever ball game, you know,
Speaker 1: from my couch in the evening during dinner or something,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be tweeting during it. So
Speaker 1: I follow Twitter and it's very valuable during my shift
Speaker 1: at the studio, but I don't tweet, and I don't
Speaker 1: tell you, Hey, I'm standing in line at the store
Speaker 1: and you know that. Yeah, I don't. I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: And like I stopped years ago, I did like live
Speaker 1: tweet during games. I very I might do it for
Speaker 1: a super Bowl or something like that, but I very
Speaker 1: rarely or a Clippers playoffs game. Well, only only oh
Speaker 1: as close as ever this past year though, Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: it was I got hurt. It's still a little fresh.
Speaker 1: I can hear that, yeah, you know, because it used
Speaker 1: to be the good old days. Remember when Elton brand
Speaker 1: played a game seven in the second round. So now
Speaker 1: you got something past that. I was at that. I
Speaker 1: traveled the Phoenix when he played the Sons and Clipper
Speaker 1: Darryll actually got on, he got off the team bus.
Speaker 1: They took him on the road trip. It was crazy
Speaker 1: back and yeah, that was of course the Staples Center days.
Speaker 1: You remember that, like when Mark Jackson was playing with
Speaker 1: the Clippers at the Sports Arena, which we referenced early
Speaker 1: I covered. I remember Clippers game was the last game
Speaker 1: of the season in the nineties, and it was when
Speaker 1: David Robinson scored sev on the last day. I wasn't
Speaker 1: at that one. That was to win the scoring title.
Speaker 1: And Madonna was there because Dennis Rodman was on the
Speaker 1: team and they were together at the time, and she's
Speaker 1: she's sitting in the first row and at one of
Speaker 1: the time outs, the Clipper girls they're dancing to a
Speaker 1: Madonna song. She could not have been less impressed. She
Speaker 1: didn't even look she would busy in her conversation. She
Speaker 1: did go in the Spurs locker room afterwards. It was
Speaker 1: it was a very strange day altogether, capped by the
Speaker 1: fact that it was a real seventy one that David
Speaker 1: Robinson scored. It wasn't like let's just not play defense
Speaker 1: or anything. He was great. Yeah, well she used the material. Girl,
Speaker 1: she can't be bothered. She was bigger than all of
Speaker 1: this is what we got the impression. And you know
Speaker 1: that I have fond memories. I mean those I remember
Speaker 1: the I covered the Lakers at the Forum unfortunately, and
Speaker 1: the Clippers. But like Jack Jack, you know Jack Nichols,
Speaker 1: he would come in the media room at the Forum
Speaker 1: and get coffee and I mean just like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but it was very odd. You know, you
Speaker 1: see this at that time. He was still a huge
Speaker 1: Hollywood you know star, and he just be hanging out. Yea.
Speaker 1: He used to go to road games to back then
Speaker 1: on the play having having a cup of coffee. And
Speaker 1: then the sportsmen it was such a dump. They had
Speaker 1: those trough bathrooms and it was like the only time
Speaker 1: there were any real people there was when the Celtics
Speaker 1: of the Sixers and Nicks and the Lakers were laying
Speaker 1: the Clippers and so or the Bulls with Jordan's Otherwise,
Speaker 1: they literally were averaging like six seven thousand for for
Speaker 1: an NBA season. Yeah, I was there for a preseason
Speaker 1: game against the Denver Nuggets and we counted the crowd.
Speaker 1: It was like seven. We counted. We were so bored
Speaker 1: on radio road that we counted the crowd. But no,
Speaker 1: I can bring this conversation full circle because on that
Speaker 1: Madonna day, I am reminded that one media member who
Speaker 1: was in our media baseball game Dodger Stadium as well,
Speaker 1: Norm Peters, happened to have with his notes and everything
Speaker 1: else in his bag that he brought to the Clipper
Speaker 1: game that day, happened to have for some unknown reason,
Speaker 1: and eight by ten of Madonna and she happen to
Speaker 1: be there, and he that he actually got on one
Speaker 1: of the one of the Hollywood news shows and entertainment tonight,
Speaker 1: one of those the next day with a b real
Speaker 1: footage of Norm getting Madonna to sign his eight by
Speaker 1: ten And Norm still has that great now retired. By
Speaker 1: the way Norman retired, Norm used to be at the
Speaker 1: first row the table with the Clippers announcers on Prime
Speaker 1: Ticket as their statistician for years, you could as a
Speaker 1: camera went left and right throughout the game, you could
Speaker 1: always pick out Norm. He was not only a great statistician,
Speaker 1: but exactly the right mentality to be that you have
Speaker 1: to be a little picky because that's what the job
Speaker 1: demands and that's what makes the broadcast better. He was
Speaker 1: great at the absolutely well, see we have gone way
Speaker 1: too long, but we you know, listen, you were so
Speaker 1: much better than most of these people that we have
Speaker 1: on the podcast. We should have you on again. What
Speaker 1: a great idea, What a great fucking idea. You can't curse. Well,
Speaker 1: if there's gonna be swearing, I'm not sure if I'm
Speaker 1: going to return now, I can't tell anyone to listen
Speaker 1: to it. I guess this is kind of an homage
Speaker 1: to because Bet, I bet, I know you don't do you?
Speaker 1: Guys haven't seen each other in what like two years? Right?
Speaker 1: I did see him in the parking lot occasionally, very
Speaker 1: rare occasion, showed up to the studio post pandemic. Ben
Speaker 1: the sneaky little thing. I'm gonna peel the curtain back
Speaker 1: a little bit for you and for the audience because
Speaker 1: Steve and I work similar schedules money through Friday, and
Speaker 1: certain shows that we're on, like typically your show how structured,
Speaker 1: Like if you're starting at eleven o'clock and you're going
Speaker 1: to twelve and that hour, you'll typically toss to Eddie
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour to see what's trending
Speaker 1: at eleven thirty or more along the lines of that time.
Speaker 1: Normal host might do that, Yeah, normal host. Well, the
Speaker 1: shows that Steve and I work on, he taught me
Speaker 1: this trick. The shows that we work on don't break
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour, they'll break at like
Speaker 1: so Steve taught me, he said. He sat me down
Speaker 1: one day and he said, David, I need you to
Speaker 1: do this and emulate. He says, for as long as
Speaker 1: they go over the bottom of the hour, your update
Speaker 1: needs to be equally as long, not equally. It's just
Speaker 1: that I have no qualms about going along. If you
Speaker 1: take eight minutes to get to that's the best part. Clearly,
Speaker 1: the clock means nothing. You can't suddenly as you should.
Speaker 1: By the way, and let me tell you some of
Speaker 1: the shows to say you've worked on, you are better
Speaker 1: than the people on the shop I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: pointing that out. I'm not saying maybe not now, but
Speaker 1: back in the day, that's all. It's just great though,
Speaker 1: when you come back from breaking the bottom of the
Speaker 1: hour for the last segment, in the last segments like
Speaker 1: sixty seconds and lea. I have been guilty of that
Speaker 1: from time to time myself. I have occasionally had committed
Speaker 1: that cardinal sin. But maybe you ought to tell any
Speaker 1: to do this. Yeah, exactly, all right, listen, we we
Speaker 1: love you, Steve. I'll catch up with you. Then I
Speaker 1: should go. And remember, didn't we go to Tommy's one time?
Speaker 1: I think we went to since the original location is
Speaker 1: near Dodger Stadium. That was another eleven PM Burger run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see, I used to eat it Tommy's a lot
Speaker 1: back in the day. Anyway, that's right. I'm big and
Speaker 1: now I do this inter minute fasting, so I don't
Speaker 1: eat that much. But I'm not like, I can't be
Speaker 1: like you have the greatest uh your body processes food.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you eat, Steve. Yeah, I am so jealous.
Speaker 1: You'll look like von Hayes in a baseball uniform. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's an outdated reference. I canna update my reference, but anyway,
Speaker 1: thank you, Steve. Appreciated Buddy. Be sure to catch live
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