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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast off a crazy weekend of quarantining back again. We're

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Speaker 1: about ten days away from the National Football League hosting

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Speaker 1: their draft, so thank god we got something to look

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Speaker 1: forward to in this quarantine life. And uh, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: dive in today off the top of the show, the

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Speaker 1: thing that I enjoy most about the draft and something

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Speaker 1: that it just really excites me heading into a draft,

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Speaker 1: and then even on draft night, I also listed the

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Speaker 1: top five general manager jobs going into just this year,

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Speaker 1: so this draft, but leading into this fall that I'm

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Speaker 1: most intrigued to see and that if I could put

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Speaker 1: myself in these jobs. I listened them one through five,

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Speaker 1: the ones that I want because I think they're in

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Speaker 1: the best position to just have a huge impact. And

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Speaker 1: then I just chose a bunch of other topics, things

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Speaker 1: that have happened over the last when's the last time

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Speaker 1: even today on Monday, but I want to And then

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Speaker 1: have greatly appreciate it. But let's start what I like

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Speaker 1: most about the NFL draft. Like any person in their

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Speaker 1: late twenties early thirties, you get a little spare cash

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't even need to be much a couple

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Speaker 1: thousand bucks. You're like, what am I gonna do with

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Speaker 1: this money? My rents paid, my foods paid. You're like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I like business. I went to business school.

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Speaker 1: Let's start kind of sniffing around. You get some friends

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Speaker 1: that maybe work in the financial world, the e b

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Speaker 1: s with over beers, Like god, this sounds kind of cool,

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Speaker 1: especially for those of us that like gambling on sports.

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Speaker 1: You're like, well, I'm putting hundreds of dollars on you know,

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Speaker 1: random playoff series and golfers on major tournaments, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Penn State to cover on a Saturday night, I might

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Speaker 1: as well, instead of putting some of that money, diversify

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Speaker 1: and bet on a company. And, as Tony Robbins says,

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Speaker 1: if you just bet on companies that you use every day,

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Speaker 1: you're already proven that you believe in it. Hell, I

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Speaker 1: got an Apple computer, I gotta I'm looking at an

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Speaker 1: do A couple of years ago? I invested in Apple,

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Speaker 1: made some money. Pretty novel concept, not that difficult. I

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Speaker 1: like the stocks and I actually think the draft is

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Speaker 1: a lot like a stock market, because I think we

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Speaker 1: think when we say these players out loud, like Jerry Judy,

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Speaker 1: he's just a lot to become a star, we all

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a good player. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of players that we thought were

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Speaker 1: Maybe he gets hurt, maybe he goes the wrong situation.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. We think every first round pick is gonna

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Speaker 1: be sweet. The reality is maybe half our and then

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Speaker 1: the reality is a much smaller percentage are actually impact players.

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Speaker 1: There's a decent chance on draft night Brandon Aiyuk or

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Speaker 1: off the board. So the key on draft night is

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Speaker 1: whoever you acquire. It's about paying the right price. Because

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Speaker 1: right now, I'm a big Netflix guy and have been

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Speaker 1: for a long time, and I bought in originally at

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Speaker 1: ago when it was at like threeft. It's nowt like

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Speaker 1: almost four hundred dollars. I believe in Netflix. They've crushed

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Speaker 1: it in the pandemic. We're all watching a lot of Netflix.

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Speaker 1: They are way a head of every streaming service. Even

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Speaker 1: with added competition in Amazon Prime, Disney created one. They're

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, if you don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: getting ten shares. I'd much rather find a company that

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Speaker 1: mass right. My point is the profit is in the buy,

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Speaker 1: overpaying for stuff, because all a draft slot is is

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Speaker 1: whatever player you're taking, there is that guy's value that slot.

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Speaker 1: Now it takes two to tango. You can't always trade back. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I hated the Raiders number four overall pick last year,

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Speaker 1: taking Cleveland Farall at four. You cannot do that now.

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Speaker 1: Mike Mayock has gone on record. I think Mike max

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Speaker 1: already like a top ten GM in the league. He said, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: so he's never gonna have any trade value. He's already

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Speaker 1: we saw a year and he's terrible. So even if

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Speaker 1: maybe a trade. At least you got options in years

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Speaker 1: to come. You gotta take Devin White, you gotta take

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Speaker 1: at all. You just gotta take a different player. Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: who was taken six overall, again hated the pick. Not

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Speaker 1: because I don't believe in taking your franchise quarterback high,

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Speaker 1: but I believe a team that had two picks, they

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Speaker 1: though Dave Gettleman disagrees they would have got him at seventeen.

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Speaker 1: The one team that he had to worry about team

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, wanted him. But the reality is, and

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, who's the quarterback of the Washington Redskins. Dwayne Haskins.

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Speaker 1: Why because owners usually win the argument, so understanding value,

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Speaker 1: you could have got Daniel Jones at seventeen. Now, again,

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Speaker 1: but that's an argument for a different day. I think

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Speaker 1: when you look back, sometimes your favorite player in a draft,

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Speaker 1: in the two thousand twelve of draft was clearly Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: It was the player that he loved the most. He

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Speaker 1: Bruce Irvant. Take Russell Wilson the first round. I love

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a stud. Take him in fifteen.

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Speaker 1: He would have been viewed as crazy at the time.

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Speaker 1: Several years later, he would look like a genius. But

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Speaker 1: it wasn't about that. It was about understanding that you

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Speaker 1: a risk. Guess what. There's a risk with everything. That's

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Speaker 1: why the key is from really the senior ball till now.

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Speaker 1: You're just acquiring information where a guy is gonna go.

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Speaker 1: That is the entire key with the draft. Understanding the

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Speaker 1: Just because you love certain players, and if you love

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Speaker 1: certain players, whatever team you are, you believe that guy

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Speaker 1: separate argument about understanding where you need to go to

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he always gets the draft picks right,

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Speaker 1: because he misses, just like any general manager. But since

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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, he's traded his first round pick every

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Speaker 1: single year up down, mainly backwards and for players, and

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Speaker 1: in seventeen and nineteen he made multiple traits. But the

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Speaker 1: reality is he's always trying to get the value correct. Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, the Niners do a pretty good job of this,

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Speaker 1: and again they've missed. They took once upon a time.

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Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, who they miss because he's not good enough.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a position. Again, tries hard. You know,

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Speaker 1: just like you don't draft Trubisky. That's again, more than

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Speaker 1: when they took Trubisky, they miss evaluated the value on

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Speaker 1: gonna last till like ten. He might. You know, some

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Speaker 1: of those teams that took Deshaun Watson my homes, it's

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Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe Bill O'Brien, like to Shawn, you know

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. You never know. But if I would have

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Speaker 1: They'll always be more options. And that's what's gonna be

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Speaker 1: complicated about this zoom situation trying to make trades. But

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Speaker 1: I do think the best general managers we'll just I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's tax, there's emails, there's a million ways to get

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Speaker 1: want to pay one point four million dollars for a

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins traded, Let's just do a hypothetical four

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Speaker 1: They're paying one point three million, hell one point five

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Speaker 1: a couple of years, if Joe Burrow is good, that

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Speaker 1: there is enormous risk. They also have more money just

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Speaker 1: because they have multiple first round picks. So anyone moving

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Speaker 1: you have a single pick, like your pick fourteen, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna cost you a lot more because you've gotta

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Speaker 1: deal with future picks. Who knows how good you're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: That future pick could be a lot higher. Hell, it

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Speaker 1: could be a lot lower. There's just a lot of unknown.

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Speaker 1: That's the entire key to the draft. It's just knowing value,

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Speaker 1: understanding the right value of what to trade for a player.

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Speaker 1: seen in Patrick Mahomes, who's years old. In the last

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Speaker 1: two years they went to they went won the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and the previous year they lost because of an

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Speaker 1: offside in the NFC Championship game. The Kansasy Chiefs have

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Speaker 1: a pick in every round. If you just hit on

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Speaker 1: three of the seven players to become solid starters on

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Speaker 1: your team, cheap labor. Given that you're playing Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: about to probably the next year a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: You already got a pretty high priced team, and Hill, Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: Honey Badger, Frank Clark, Chris Jones gonna need to get paid.

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Speaker 1: You need cheap labor. Well, it'd be pretty exciting to go.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I got Patrick Mahomes for the next decade,

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Speaker 1: kicking everyone's ass. Now out what's on me as a

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Speaker 1: GM to nail draft picks and just get solid starters.

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Speaker 1: Because if I get solid, functional starters that are on

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Speaker 1: my team for three or four years making seven d

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Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars, I'm gonna be tough to beat

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Speaker 1: and I might rattle off three or four Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: That is the key. These next couple of drafts for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are huge because if each nails these drafts,

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Speaker 1: and I when I say nail, get three starters. If

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Speaker 1: you come out of this draft with three starters, you're

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Speaker 1: golden because then next year you can get rid of

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Speaker 1: some players that make a lot of money. You can

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Speaker 1: siphon in your younger players. You gotta balance out the

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Speaker 1: high end expense with cheap labor and Mahomes, Frank Clark,

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill. These guys aren't going anywhere, and they shouldn't

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Speaker 1: because obviously Mahomes is a great player. But you're gonna need,

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Speaker 1: you know, a decent amount of people on a decent

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Speaker 1: amount of players, decent amount of your of your roster

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Speaker 1: on minimum type contracts. That your second, your third, your

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Speaker 1: fourth round picks. And for the first time in a while,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City has a lot of picks because they haven't

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Speaker 1: made any traits. So they're just sitting there and you

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Speaker 1: get this right, like you could become, i mean, a

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Speaker 1: powerhouse dynasty. Help. I think it's fair to say they're

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl favorites right now. How could they not

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Speaker 1: be the best player in the game, Patrick Mahomes. You

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Speaker 1: put talent around him offensively and defensively, because we saw

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Speaker 1: last year. If their defense plays well, they're gonna win

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Speaker 1: a lot of games. And that's just that's just a

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Speaker 1: reality for Kansas City and looking forward to and again

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Speaker 1: that's the thing about a draft like the Chiefs, it

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Speaker 1: won't be that sexy on draft night because they're drafting

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Speaker 1: at the end of it. At the end of every

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Speaker 1: round where it would be sexy is like week seven,

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Speaker 1: You're like, Wow, they got two starters from that draft

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Speaker 1: and three other guys that play. Then then they're in

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Speaker 1: pretty good shape. Okay, let's dive into some topics just

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Speaker 1: around football things that have happened over the weekend. Number

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Speaker 1: one topic on Monday was Christian McCaffrey get topics story.

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey signed a contract and as the latest, I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen how much guaranteed he got. I guess sick

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Speaker 1: teen million dollars a year. I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: people analytically freak out. I don't love paying running backs.

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry carried the Titans to the a f C

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Speaker 1: Championship game. Wouldn't pay him, make him go a year

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Speaker 1: to year, make him go on the franchise tech Zeke Elliott.

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Speaker 1: I didn't love paying him that much money. Christian McCaffrey's

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Speaker 1: kind of a different animal. He was the first player

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Speaker 1: last year since Roger Craig and Marshall Falk to join

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Speaker 1: the thousand thousand club. He's had over a hundred catches

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Speaker 1: two years in a row. I was way too low

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Speaker 1: on him coming out. I thought he was gonna be

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Speaker 1: like a glorified Julian Edelman. Turns out he's like Jarvis

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Speaker 1: Landry meets say Kwan Barkley. He's one of the top

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Speaker 1: ten non quarterbacks in the league. He's twenty three years old.

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Speaker 1: He'll be twenty four when the season starts. But he's young,

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Speaker 1: he's productive, he's high character. You can turn things around

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Speaker 1: quick if you're the Panthers. The problem also with McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: because of his position, you couldn't flip him like a

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Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil or like a Jalen Ramsey, and at his

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Speaker 1: position he's their level or Khalil Mack. Because if you're

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Speaker 1: the Panthers and you really want to reset, you'd want

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Speaker 1: to trade him for a couple of first round picks.

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Speaker 1: The problem is no teams trading You would a couple

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Speaker 1: first round picks for him, and then I see, oh,

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Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars way too much for a running back

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Speaker 1: when you factor in how much he impacts the game

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Speaker 1: receiving and running the ball, and it's sixteen million. He's

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Speaker 1: only eight percent of the cap this year. Well, if

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Speaker 1: it goes up another twenty million next year, You're already

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Speaker 1: at six percent of the cap. He doesn't cost that

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Speaker 1: much money. People act like sixteen seventeen, eighteen million for

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Speaker 1: these elite I can't believe you spent this on that guy.

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Speaker 1: Serious the cap we don't have a ten million dollar

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Speaker 1: cap anymore. Times have changed. Money's all relative. So I

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Speaker 1: like the signing Drew Brees signed with the NBC, which

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Speaker 1: to me is a little weird. If you're Drew Brees,

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Speaker 1: time is on your side. Anytime you retire and want

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Speaker 1: to join the media workforce, you're gonna have multiple, you know,

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Speaker 1: networks lined up for your services. I don't get why

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Speaker 1: you sign a future contract if you're him, don't you

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Speaker 1: want to live in the moment, try to baby win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? What if you want to come back

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years. I just that to me

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Speaker 1: is a little bizarre. What what is the rush? Where

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Speaker 1: are these networks going? Who are they were? Who are

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Speaker 1: they getting better than him? Now? I don't even think

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees gonna be that good, like I think Manning

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Speaker 1: would be good. I think Philip Rivers would be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I think there's chance Drew Brees wouldn't be that good.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's a fantastic human being, probably like

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Speaker 1: one of the highest character guys in the NFL history.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing you see with Romo is he's

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Speaker 1: kind of a guy's guy. He just kind of lets

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Speaker 1: it flow. He's fun. Then you get some guys that

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Speaker 1: are kind of critical, like a Troy Aigman. Like what

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Speaker 1: would be Drew Brees is lane. He's not gonna be critical.

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Speaker 1: It's not really his style. Is he super fun of me?

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Speaker 1: He's a nice guy, but is he super fun guy? Again?

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Speaker 1: I have the utmost respect for Drew Brees. I am

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Speaker 1: a huge Drew Brees guy. I just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I want my TV personalities to be a little crazy

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Speaker 1: John Madden, John Gruden, Tony Romo. You could argue Troy

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Speaker 1: Aikman is like the high end super button up, but

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Speaker 1: he he lets it rip. I don't Drew Brees a

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Speaker 1: little corporate for me. I I don't know. I I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be great at TV, but

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Speaker 1: I still don't understand why he's signed early. The XFL

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Speaker 1: went bankrupt, you know, they owe a lot of people money.

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Speaker 1: Their revenue stopped coming in and the way business works.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people understand this. I saw with the

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Speaker 1: media like Finch Young stiffed a lot of people. No,

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Speaker 1: he did not. Anytime you get involved with a startup,

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Speaker 1: and I have several times over the last three or

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Speaker 1: four years, you're risking a lot. There is no guaranteed

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Speaker 1: the money's gonna keep flowing. There is no guarantee you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get the money your promise. Part of the reason

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Speaker 1: you get involved with the startup because it sounds really

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Speaker 1: good non paper, and even something like the XFL that

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Speaker 1: sounded good on paper, it had tangible things going for it,

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Speaker 1: It had legitimate partners, it had money backing. Things are

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00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: out of your control. Corona hits boom, no more revenue

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Speaker 1: League screwed. Vince Young is not taking money out of

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Speaker 1: his personal accounts to keep this thing afloat, especially when

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Speaker 1: there's no certainty when this thing's gonna end is who knows,

563
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Speaker 1: like he did the right thing. You just go bankrupt,

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Speaker 1: and everyone that from Bob Stoops to the executives of

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Speaker 1: the players like that's part of the deal. You sign

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Speaker 1: up with something risky. Sometimes it goes under. For every

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Speaker 1: Apple and Amazon that hit. There's a million companies you

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Speaker 1: never heard of. And I actually don't think Vince Young

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Speaker 1: did anything wrong or Vince mcbanhn did anything wrong here.

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Speaker 1: They were set up to succeed. They were having success

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Speaker 1: and the Corona hit and now they're bankrupt. Like it's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty complicated when I see a lot of people

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Speaker 1: this was inevitable. No, it wasn't. They would never have

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Speaker 1: gone bankrupt without Corona. Would it have been some success,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but for sure as hell was not

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Speaker 1: going under, they were getting more more viewers than NBA games.

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Speaker 1: They were fine. Was it some rage? It wasn't the

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Speaker 1: next NFL, but it was serving a specific purpose and

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Speaker 1: it was working and it gave the television networks inventory.

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Speaker 1: But Corona hits, it comes to a screeching halt. There

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Speaker 1: is no money, and unlike the NFL, they don't have

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Speaker 1: bank accounts as a league to just go through a

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Speaker 1: rainy day. There was no rainy day fund. That's part

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Speaker 1: of a startup, like part of having success as a

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Speaker 1: startup is getting off to a strong start so then

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Speaker 1: you can kind of snowball it into more success. And

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Speaker 1: they were off to a strong start in Boom Corona.

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Speaker 1: They're they're done. Vince McMahon, This is not personally liable

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Speaker 1: for this stuff. There's a reason the XFL was a

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Speaker 1: corporation LLC or whatever it was. People don't spend their

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Speaker 1: personal income to keep you know, startups that there's no

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Speaker 1: certainty for it to keep to stay afloat. This just

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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna happen. So I Vince Young, did I keep

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Speaker 1: calling him Vince Young? Vince McMahon did the right thing.

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Speaker 1: Interesting little nugget here that Alden Smith and Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: started a relationship at Jay Glazier's Jim It's where Alden

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Speaker 1: first met Mike McCarthy, and it shows you, like, would

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys have signed this guy? Just off hearsay from

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Speaker 1: Jay Glazer that he's turned his life around, that he

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Speaker 1: looks good. Sometimes in life it's just where you are

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Speaker 1: who you run into. And clearly Mike McCarthy, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say put his reputation on the line, but look, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Jerry's an easy sell on this, like, hey, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: I think we should do this. And Alden you see

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Speaker 1: him at the gym, you see how healthy is Sometimes

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Speaker 1: Also if you're sweating around a guy. You see, if

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Speaker 1: he smells like booze or not. It's the number one

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Speaker 1: place to kind of alcoholic smell. So if he's not,

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Speaker 1: if he smells clean, you're like this guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he seems like he's sober. You can see it in

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Speaker 1: the guy's face. McCarthy was able to have a personal

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Speaker 1: inter action with this guy that probably helped, you know,

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Speaker 1: it clearly did. I mean, I think uh Alden's agent

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Speaker 1: even said a big reason this happens because McCarthy felt

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Speaker 1: comfortable they developed a personal relationship at this gym. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know this. Mike McCarthy's daughter is an inspiring actress.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have guessed that pretty cool nugget from Peter King.

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Speaker 1: Roger Goodell will announce all the first round picks from

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Speaker 1: his basement. At first, I thought, you know, this is

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Speaker 1: kind of stupid. They're doing it on zoom, and then

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Speaker 1: he realized, like watching some of the Masters over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: they had Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods do the recap

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Speaker 1: of their master's victory. You know it's not ideal, but

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Speaker 1: you know, these are the cards were dealt, and we're

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Speaker 1: just dealing with them and it's still entertaining. I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be fine. I think it'll make for some funny moments,

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Speaker 1: and I think for years to come, we'll look back

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Speaker 1: on this and talk about the Corona Draft, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we will have some viral moments that we will

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Speaker 1: never forget. Okay, let's dive into the middle Cough mail

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Speaker 1: bag at John middlecoff is my Instagram. Slide up right

632
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: into those direct messages and you'll get your questions right here.

633
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Very little has been discussed about the running backs in

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Speaker 1: the twenty draft, given the strength of wide receivers, corners, quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and offensive line, and a diminishing view of running back

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Speaker 1: value in recent years. Where do you see some of

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Speaker 1: the top running backs going Swift, Dobbs, and Taylor were

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Speaker 1: all exceptional in college, but seemed rarely mentioned as first

639
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Speaker 1: round options. I would expect one of them to go

640
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: in the first round, probably Dobbs, could see Taylor, but

641
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: either Dobbs or Taylor to go somewhere in the twenties.

642
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: I think the other two guys we'll get drafted high

643
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: in the second round, like Chub in years past, Derrick

644
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: Henry and years passed. I think that early second round

645
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: spot has just been a sweet spot for running backs.

646
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: Teams feel comfortable drafting a guy there. You don't feel

647
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: like you're using a first round pick. Now, you could argue, like,

648
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Speaker 1: imagine if you had Derrick Henry as a first round pick,

649
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Speaker 1: you have the fifth year option, you have a little

650
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: wiggle room. But I just think that those two guys

651
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: can play. I mean, Jonathan Taylor is a ball or

652
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: j K. Dobbins can play really good. Swift is solid.

653
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: I like Zack Moss, though he's not gonna go that high. Um,

654
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: it's just it's just tough to me. He is just

655
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: catching the ball. If you can catch the ball, you

656
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: can play running back in two thousand twenty, And obviously

657
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: you can play if you can't catch the ball. I mean,

658
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: you have high level value if you can run it

659
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: and catch it. I'm talking about a guy that can

660
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: add seventy eight catches, because if you're not a seventy

661
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: eight catch guy, I struggle drafting really high. Now. Zeke

662
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: is somewhat of an outlier, but I think that's gonna

663
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: be the question on Jonathan Taylor. Jake can catch, I'd

664
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Speaker 1: have to I don't. I don't know enough about Swift.

665
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: I feel like, off the top of my head, he

666
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: can catch. But don't quote me on that. I think

667
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: you got close on Tom doing stern. I see the

668
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: Patson Belichick as the micromanaging boss, constantly telling Tom just

669
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: throw the ball. No media, we don't want to hear

670
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: your take on drafting and recruiting. Just throw the ball.

671
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: But Tom's Tom knows he can do all those things.

672
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: We've all left bad bosses, and when we find an

673
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: organization that just says, yeah, go do it, we trust you,

674
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: it's liberating. I would agree the Bucks trust him and

675
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: new and that's new. Tom is gonna run with it

676
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: and I'm here for it. Hashtag Sacramento Proud. The difference

677
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: is Tom did not leave a bad boss. Tom left

678
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: arguably the most successful boss in the history of the league.

679
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: Now where I think we could meet in the middle

680
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: is even if you work for a super super successful guy,

681
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: it's one thing to have a five eight tenure run.

682
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: Twenty years a long time. I think of twenty years

683
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: of marriage a long time. If you have a kid

684
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: year one of marriage right by the time twenty years

685
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: is over, that kid's second third year in college. So

686
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: that's that is a very very long period of time.

687
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: We all grow tired of each other, no matter how

688
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: much money we're have, no matter how much success we're having,

689
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: no matter how much you liked and respect the other person.

690
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: It's a natural reaction. So I do agree it's new

691
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: and fresh, this notion. The Bucks trust him, obviously they do,

692
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: but they don't have a choice to Tom's in control.

693
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: Tom has the leverage. The Bucks do what he wants

694
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: them to do, and he'll do what he wants to do. Now.

695
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: He's a great guy, great teammate. Tom wants to do something,

696
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna do it. He didn't do that with Belichick

697
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: and a lead Do I mean the success speaks for itself.

698
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: Do you think the O T position has been thoroughly overvalued?

699
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm asking your regards to my beloved New York Giants.

700
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Do you think they would stand pat at four and

701
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: select an offensive tackle rather than draft Simmons or trade down.

702
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: I think having a competent, potential pro bowler is fine.

703
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: You don't need Ogden out there, even though a player

704
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: like him would be nice. Stay safe out there. I

705
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily overvalued because it's the guy blocking

706
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: the highest paid guy on defense, and those are pass rushers.

707
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: So whoever the highest paid guys on defense, You're gonna

708
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: want your player on offense to be really good whoever

709
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: they have to go up against. Right, That's why you

710
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: want good receivers to go up against top corners, why

711
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: you want good offensive lineman to go up against copp

712
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. And they protect your quarterback. So I don't

713
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: think they're overvalued. Now you're You're right, like, you can

714
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: get by with a very solid starter. You do not

715
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: need to Anthony Moonio's Tony Boselli, Orlando Pace you just

716
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: need or Tyron Smith. You can Hell, you can win

717
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: a Joe Staley has been to multiple Super Bowls and

718
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: he's a solid starter. You know, Jason Peters is a

719
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: high end guy, but hell, the Chiefs have had a

720
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: lot of success with with Eric Fisher, who's a solid starter.

721
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think sometimes the hype it's not like quarterback.

722
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: You need a Pro Bowl quarterback to win big. In

723
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, you do not need a Pro Bowl tackle

724
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: to win big. You need a good tackle and good tackles,

725
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: but you don't need a lead tackle. So I would

726
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: tend to you're onto something, Let's do it every morning

727
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: on the way to work. Appreciate it. Question for the pod,

728
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: where does Jalen Hurts go? Listen? I'm not a huge

729
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts guy as a quarterback. I think he's more

730
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: of a hybrid player. I don't think he throws it

731
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: well enough in the NFL. I do think a lot

732
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: of NFL teams are gonna disagree with me. I think

733
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Speaker 1: he ends up going in the second round. I would

734
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Speaker 1: take in the third probably and move him kind of

735
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: playing like a Taysom Hill role. I see more Taysom Hill.

736
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Speaker 1: I think teams are gonna see I don't want to

737
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: say they're gonna see Lamar Jackson, but they're gonna see

738
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: some Lamar Jackson in his game. I do not. I

739
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: just I think Lamar just throws it better, clearly does now.

740
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Speaker 1: But I'm not the biggest Jalen Hurts at quarterback A

741
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Speaker 1: in your in your opinion, what are the most important

742
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: traits that a corner must have in order to be great? Well,

743
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: it depends what scheme you're in. If you're in a

744
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: zone scheme, tackling is big. Instincts in space are big.

745
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Spatial awareness is big if you're in a man end scheme.

746
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Top in speed is huge. Ball skills are massive. Ball

747
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: skills are huge no matter what. Instincts like you can't teach,

748
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: and instincts are when the balls in the air, do

749
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: you play the ball? Do you never look at the ball.

750
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: That's a huge separating factor. You know, tackling can be overrated,

751
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: but I don't want to whoos. I don't need Richard Sherman,

752
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: who's like an elite tackler, or trying to think of

753
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: a good tackling corner. He's the guy that always jumps out.

754
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: But I need my guy to be able to wrap up. Uh.

755
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: You gotta have good feet. You gotta just be competitive.

756
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: You gotta have a short memory. You gotta be confident. Uh.

757
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: I think I think most corners, most great corners, are

758
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: confident or tough or mentally tough, have elite ball skills,

759
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: have elite instincts. From your time as a scout, who

760
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: is your biggest home run and biggest bust? A? J. Jenkins?

761
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Speaker 1: In terms of prospects, you advocated for the Eagles to draft,

762
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: regardless of whether the Eagles ultimately drafted those players. Well,

763
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: my first two years I worked in the pro department,

764
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: and you're not playing as big of a role, you know.

765
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: I was, you know, evaluating like practice squad guys and

766
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: just starting players like they don't, they don't care what

767
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: your opinion is on like Hellodi Nada. I'm just thinking

768
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: of some top player Logan Mankins, the Namdi Asomwa who

769
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Speaker 1: we ended up signing, Like you don't. You don't, really,

770
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Speaker 1: You're not in those conversations. Now, I'm going to take

771
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: credit for this. Andrew Sendejo was a guy I really loved.

772
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: It was the UFL at the time, some like minor league.

773
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: I liked him. Took him to Lewis Riddick. I said,

774
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: we need to work out this guy. You know, certain

775
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: things are out of your control when you're one of

776
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: the lower guys in the totem pole. I was all

777
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: over him. He was sweet guy. Another guy that I

778
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: like coming out my last year on the road. It

779
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: was a big ziggy Ansa guy. I don't we didn't

780
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: have many people in the building. There were big ziggy

781
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: Ansa guys and if it wasn't for injury, he was

782
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: sweet guys. I missed on. I didn't miss on that.

783
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: Barkley didn't like him trying to think of pro guys.

784
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: I didn't do college long enough to have a long list.

785
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: I really was only involved in college full go one year.

786
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: I was involved in my first year a lot with

787
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: like practice squad guys and free agency and really doing

788
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: more like you know, I mean when you're when you're

789
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: a twenty five year old pro scout, they just your opinion.

790
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: It's you're more telling your opinion to the other scouts

791
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: in the room then to the bosses. In fairness, like,

792
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if my opinion not that I was wrong.

793
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean I was, you know, I just tend to

794
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: be pretty good. I was on the right guys. But

795
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: the reality is, um I didn't play. You know, they

796
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: weren't like, who should we sign now again? We I

797
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: was in agreement. I liked a lot of the guys

798
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 1: we were signing, but it was more practice squad guys,

799
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: ranking practice squad guys, ranking back in guys when guys

800
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: get hurt, setting up workouts, and then in the draft

801
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: what I did. By the time I was doing college ship,

802
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: Kelly got there and he definitely didn't care what I

803
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: had to say. Here's a quick question about wide receivers

804
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 1: in the draft process for you, how consistent is touchdown

805
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: production from a college the pros? If a guy catches

806
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns in college, is that a good or

807
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: reliable measure for future pro production? The guy haven't mind

808
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: is Tyler Johnson, who got twenty five touchdowns at Minnesota

809
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: the last two years. I think the number one key

810
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: when looking at college production is context. So if you've

811
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Speaker 1: got twenty five touchdowns, what I would do as a

812
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: GM or scouting director or whoever, I would siphon those

813
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: twenty five touchdowns out and I would watch them all individually.

814
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: Are ten of those twenty five blown coverage in your

815
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: wide open? Are a large majority of them in type coverage?

816
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: You know, there are guys every year that have double

817
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: digit sacks, and they get six of their ten sacks

818
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: in games against lower level opponents, and three of the

819
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: ten sacks are when the offensive tackle doesn't even touch him.

820
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: So I think there's a balancing act when it comes

821
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Speaker 1: to college production. I think sometimes if you're playing in

822
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: the SEC and you're catching it on a bunch of

823
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: NFL defensive backs, it's gonna translate. If you're playing you know,

824
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: you see Davis and cal poly and you get twenty

825
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: sacks a year. It's not as important. Doesn't mean it

826
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: won't translate, But I think you need to dive in

827
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: the individual place. Once I see do you have the

828
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: skills are not to translate, then the individual production has

829
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: to be put in context. Who are you doing this

830
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: against any of these guys? You're doing up against the

831
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: future pros? The guys that are future pros? How good

832
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: are they? Uh? How much is scheme? How much is

833
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: the individual player? I think that's why the draft is

834
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: pretty complicated. New fan of the show from Northwest Indiana,

835
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Speaker 1: Keep up the good work. Me and my friends always

836
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: argue about if you had to pick a quarterback to

837
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Speaker 1: play the Super Bowl tomorrow, who would you choose? And why?

838
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: Would love to hear your choice? This is an all

839
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: time selection too, uh. I mean you'd probably have to

840
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: go Montana or Brady just because they have a combined ten.

841
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: You know, if just the fun, like just a watching

842
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: a guy have fun, I think you would go like

843
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: Peak Farv or Peak you know what we're seeing in

844
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: mahomes that's there is a fun factor. So if you

845
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: just give me Peak Brett Farve or what last year Mahomes.

846
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: I would feel just as good taking one of those

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Speaker 1: two guys as I would Farve or Brady, even Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Like you gave me Russell Wilson in a Super Bowl game.

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Speaker 1: I'd like my chances that there's an element to me

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Speaker 1: of how entertaining is the player, how much I enjoy

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Speaker 1: watching the player, how talented is the player at the

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Speaker 1: given time I pick him. Now, if you get Brett

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Speaker 1: Farve in the wrong year, you've got no chance. Brady

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Speaker 1: has shown the majority of his career. If he's in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, he's got a very very good chance

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Speaker 1: to win it. Same with same with Montana. So I

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Speaker 1: think the safe pick would be Brady or Montana. My

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Speaker 1: bold picks would be Mahome. Ms are four just out

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Speaker 1: of the love of the game and then entertainment factor.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, stay quarantining, enjoy life, and uh let's

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Speaker 1: just keep on trucking. And the draft isn't too far away,

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Speaker 1: so we still got football in our life. Have a

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Speaker 1: good week. Talk to y'all soon. M