Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Sean Merriman A one hand effect.
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Speaker 1: Out with Sean Merriman. What's up? Guys, were back again
Speaker 1: with another Lights Out podcast with me Shawn Merriman, and
Speaker 1: Uh we bring in one of the best to ever
Speaker 1: do it man um, one of the best competitors. Uh,
Speaker 1: one of the best body building legends of all time,
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler. Have known him a very long time. And
Speaker 1: it's it's cool for me because obviously I'm a you know,
Speaker 1: you can call it a muscle. I called myself a muscle.
Speaker 1: Hey to gym rat. I love the gym. I think
Speaker 1: it's it should be a part of everybody's life as
Speaker 1: some capacity. And UM, something I've been very vocal about
Speaker 1: over the last several weeks, really over the last several months,
Speaker 1: is that I understand COVID is very serious. I've been
Speaker 1: affected by it. I was sick back in UH. I
Speaker 1: believe that right after the Super Bowl, I was down
Speaker 1: on radio road working and and I came back here
Speaker 1: to l A and I knew something was up and
Speaker 1: I had COVID then, UH, you know, my family members
Speaker 1: and close friends and It's a very very very serious
Speaker 1: deal and I get that and understand, but I also
Speaker 1: believe that mental health, uh, physical health is also equally
Speaker 1: as important. Um. There's a lot of people suffering right
Speaker 1: now because they can't get to a gym. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: they're trying to do some homework outs. With those of
Speaker 1: us who are serious work outoholics, I would like to say, um,
Speaker 1: sometimes with a home workout, some won't always fix it.
Speaker 1: And you know, I've I've been there. I've tried to
Speaker 1: do push ups and mountain climbers and air squads and
Speaker 1: running in place with my neighbors downstairs below me, uh complaining.
Speaker 1: I tried to do as much as I can, but
Speaker 1: I went through it, you know, when they first shut
Speaker 1: down the gems and shut down everything, um, and trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what to do. So it's it's awesome
Speaker 1: to have uh, one of the best to ever do
Speaker 1: it and talk about you know, what inspires him and
Speaker 1: also him inspiring other people certain programs he has going
Speaker 1: on and follow him at Jay Cutler. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into it, man, because this is awesome. No, you
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. Uh. You know, I was talking
Speaker 1: to the other, who's that? Talking to my boy Chance
Speaker 1: who was there that day, and I told him you
Speaker 1: were coming on and he said, yo, And I completely
Speaker 1: forgot about that time. You said, yo, you remember that
Speaker 1: time we was at the pool? It was was it wet?
Speaker 1: Was it wet? Right? It was? It was what republished
Speaker 1: the first time I ever met you. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know you then. So dude, you you got it for me.
Speaker 1: You gotta be a sick individual to grab shake throw
Speaker 1: in the pool through the first time you feel like
Speaker 1: I look back down, I said, what what the hell is?
Speaker 1: That was it? You know? But that like, what was
Speaker 1: it that? Maybe you want to go and do that? Man? Actually,
Speaker 1: you you spared me, bro, You didn't grab me. You
Speaker 1: spared me like we're on. We were on on the
Speaker 1: field and uh, I was three and it was pretty
Speaker 1: easy to actually knock me in the pool at that point.
Speaker 1: You so you know it was crazy. It's I've seen that. Um.
Speaker 1: You know you guys just had up and you were
Speaker 1: in Vegas right. Um. For for Miss Olympia, they actually
Speaker 1: moved to Orlando. Yes, it's normally in Vegas. They moved
Speaker 1: it this year because the land but they still had
Speaker 1: they still had like the restricts and stuff in place, right, Well,
Speaker 1: was there pretty wide open? You know it was it
Speaker 1: was they restricted to three thousand and the audience. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they were suggesting a masked protocol. Um, but
Speaker 1: it was kind of a choice. They weren't super super
Speaker 1: strict about it. And that's of course why they moved
Speaker 1: up to Florida, as you know, a lot of events
Speaker 1: have taken place there. Um, you know, the National Championship
Speaker 1: was just there and it was you know, limited fans, right,
Speaker 1: but it was still active, which is a bigger thing
Speaker 1: than California and Nevada been doing it. And I get it, man, Like,
Speaker 1: we just saw the whole in the NFL go through
Speaker 1: what the NBA first because they had the bubble, and
Speaker 1: then we saw the NFL. And I was shocked that
Speaker 1: NFL was able to get through a whole season without
Speaker 1: having to shut down because nobody, especially here in California.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, no one was letting people there,
Speaker 1: and it was it was kind of weird even see
Speaker 1: the event. I was looking at some pictures and I
Speaker 1: saw you on stage, and I didn't see the crowd.
Speaker 1: I didn't see any you know, a real big crowd there.
Speaker 1: So things have just changed. Man, how how's it been
Speaker 1: for you on your listen? As you know? I mean
Speaker 1: we we you know, we converse here and there. I
Speaker 1: mean I I was a big trade event guy, so
Speaker 1: I was attending expos. I mean we saw each other
Speaker 1: last year at the Olympia Expo. Priority we're there, um
Speaker 1: and I do a lot of those. I mean I
Speaker 1: promote events that require audiences in order to create revenue, right,
Speaker 1: So we had to cancel a lot of these events
Speaker 1: because we couldn't even hold the athletes. I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of these contests have a hundred and fifty plus
Speaker 1: athletes in the venue at on time. So we've actually
Speaker 1: had to work around restrictions. Although this year we're not
Speaker 1: going to cancel. We're gonna do time slots, so basically
Speaker 1: going to bring in certain divisions and you know, and
Speaker 1: then we'll have to uh take take the audience out,
Speaker 1: re sell tickets and kind of have it in time slots. Uh,
Speaker 1: to get through this whole pandemic thing. I mean, we
Speaker 1: can't go through another year. I can't had four events
Speaker 1: I canceled last year and all the expos had cancel.
Speaker 1: That l a fit expos usually to kick off Exploit
Speaker 1: of the year, which is in January. That's been pushed
Speaker 1: until July as we speak right now. So and that
Speaker 1: that was my one of my questions to how has
Speaker 1: because you had the nutrition company, you have to supplement
Speaker 1: and I know you're pushing online, but I think they're
Speaker 1: winning stores and stuff too, right, I mean, and and
Speaker 1: and some of these exposed. I remember you having a
Speaker 1: booth and having stuff sent up the last few that
Speaker 1: I've been to, Like, how has all that changed? Though?
Speaker 1: You know, it's changed, And unfortunately for me, like I
Speaker 1: you know, I've been mostly directed consumer brands, so a
Speaker 1: lot of my consumers are buying from the internet and
Speaker 1: through social media and through advertising through Facebook or whatever.
Speaker 1: So as you know, during a pandemic and during this time,
Speaker 1: people sit on their phones, and you know, it's been
Speaker 1: great for the online business. But yes, the store is
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of restricted areas have closed stores down, um,
Speaker 1: and they're starting to diminish, just like the gems and
Speaker 1: just like other restaurants and everything else. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you can't have face time with people, A lot of
Speaker 1: people still rely on walking in a store talking to
Speaker 1: a salesperson on what products they need. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the only good thing is honestly shown is a lot
Speaker 1: of people working out during this time, Like they find ways,
Speaker 1: whether it's outdoors, in their garages or whatever else. I mean,
Speaker 1: we talk about that, but as you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of gyms, especially where you are closed, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't have access to those. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of hurt them diet wise, and you know,
Speaker 1: keeping key carry their bodies, dude. And and it's something
Speaker 1: I've been pushing for the last I've been talking about
Speaker 1: openly for the past eight or nine months, um about
Speaker 1: gems being closed. And you know, you get stuck in
Speaker 1: this place where you want to be sympathetic because there
Speaker 1: there is people. There are people losing their life right now.
Speaker 1: This is a serious deal. I've been affected. I think
Speaker 1: I had COVID. Uh well, I did have COVID, but
Speaker 1: I think I had it in February, right after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I was down there doing radio row and
Speaker 1: just around a bunch of people, and I came back
Speaker 1: I started feeling something like immediately and I don't really
Speaker 1: get sick, and so it put me down for seventy
Speaker 1: two hours and so I can only imagine with somebody
Speaker 1: would actual health problems like we're going through. My My
Speaker 1: dad had it, and family and close friends like everybody.
Speaker 1: So it's a real deal. But the other part of
Speaker 1: it is is that when they when they closed down gyms,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this happened to you or not,
Speaker 1: but it happened to me. And when I'm talking, it
Speaker 1: was a completely closed we just it was it was
Speaker 1: basically stay in the house, don't do anything, not even
Speaker 1: go outside. Didn't work out yet, it's just like just
Speaker 1: stay home. I went through it, man. I was depressed. Um,
Speaker 1: I was stressed out. I had anxiety, and I was
Speaker 1: just sitting around and I found myself like, man, I
Speaker 1: haven't not worked out for this long since probably I
Speaker 1: was thirteen or fourteen years old. I was normally gone,
Speaker 1: never taken three weeks off from like not really being
Speaker 1: able to do anything. I try to do push ups
Speaker 1: in the house, I was doing dips off the edge
Speaker 1: of my couch. I was doing mind climbers. I was
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure it out. But that was
Speaker 1: the first time that I actually went through it. And
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you gotta you got a pretty
Speaker 1: good set up, right, But was it the same? Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie. I'm still suffering a little
Speaker 1: bit because you have to remember, um, my lifestyle, I mean,
Speaker 1: for the past twenty years has been traveling to expose,
Speaker 1: doing guest appearances and a low bodybuilding. You know, I
Speaker 1: retired competitively now seven years ago. I was still very,
Speaker 1: very active and I was still out there, and that
Speaker 1: was how the bodybuilding arena thrives off the energy and
Speaker 1: you know, and when I would travel on the weekends
Speaker 1: and I would, you know, have lines of people coming
Speaker 1: to meet me, That's what motivated me. And when I
Speaker 1: stepped away from the stage, I looked for motivation to
Speaker 1: do that. So when we hit a when we hit
Speaker 1: this pandemic and Jim's close and I'm training at home
Speaker 1: with a few dumbells and some benches, and I do
Speaker 1: have a great cardio set up, but nothing is like
Speaker 1: going to the gym and having the routine of machine
Speaker 1: to machine. And I'll be honest, I mean, someone who
Speaker 1: was a lot of self motivation, I still like to
Speaker 1: watch other people work out to gain motivation. We all
Speaker 1: thrive off each other. And I I talked about a
Speaker 1: lot on social media that we follow, the people that
Speaker 1: inspire us and certain people that you know, we just watch.
Speaker 1: We may not learn something, but we do require a
Speaker 1: lot of those people that give us motivation. And to
Speaker 1: this day, I'm still driven by a lot of different
Speaker 1: types of personalities. But for me, it really did affect me.
Speaker 1: That still affects me because my lifestyle is absolutely changed.
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of FaceTime. I'm a person
Speaker 1: that literally it's I'm in a solid routine. So I
Speaker 1: literally work every day. I go to the gym, I'm
Speaker 1: active on social media, and and then you know, I
Speaker 1: start to you know, go to sleep and start the
Speaker 1: next day. Yes, I work on business and whatever else,
Speaker 1: but I still require my social time as still, you know,
Speaker 1: being in the gym and trying to motivate others. Why
Speaker 1: being motivated myself, I do, And like you said, with
Speaker 1: the whole routine that I think that would kind of
Speaker 1: threw me off the most. That routine was gone. And
Speaker 1: I talked about guys when they retired, especially when you
Speaker 1: retire from football. I think because football is a little
Speaker 1: bit more, you've got collision. You've got fifty three guys
Speaker 1: in locked room. So the camaraderie to me is a
Speaker 1: little bit different. And you go through the stage when
Speaker 1: you first retire, that's your routine is all for the
Speaker 1: first time. And that's why a lot of guys, you know,
Speaker 1: self depression and anxiety and trying to figure out the
Speaker 1: next stages. And I really didn't have a whole lot
Speaker 1: of that, but I experienced it for the first time.
Speaker 1: So I'm pushing, you know. And I get it that
Speaker 1: you want to keep people safe. But in my personal opinion, uh,
Speaker 1: mental health, physical health, and all the things that this
Speaker 1: COVID is causing by gyms not being open and people
Speaker 1: not having, as you said, the routine, we we haven't
Speaker 1: even started to discuss those effects. I mean people losing
Speaker 1: their bit. I have a lot of friends this uh
Speaker 1: gem owners. They own you know, the two jams, some
Speaker 1: own twenty gems, chains of gems, and I see the
Speaker 1: way they're suffering, not only from the business and the
Speaker 1: financial part. But it's like that routine is gone, and
Speaker 1: we're counting all these COVID numbers. And I get it.
Speaker 1: It's serious deal. People losing their lives and we gotta
Speaker 1: be safe as possible. But one thing we're not talking
Speaker 1: about and I don't think it's talked about enough. Is
Speaker 1: the the bigger aspect and the mental health and physical
Speaker 1: health that's gonna come out come from, you know, being
Speaker 1: shut down to what we are. Yeah, I mean listen
Speaker 1: that you're talking to someone that's you know, I'm surrounded
Speaker 1: by fitness, right, And there was a lot of benefits
Speaker 1: when I started training into the age of eighteen, and
Speaker 1: that's a different I mean you, I mean you played
Speaker 1: football as a kid and then of course go to
Speaker 1: high school, college, then into the pros. You know, I
Speaker 1: started weight training, not that I didn't start following it,
Speaker 1: but I actually joined the gym my eighteen birthday and
Speaker 1: I joined the gym mainly for a confidence or a
Speaker 1: stress reliever. So when I picked up weights, I was
Speaker 1: at a crossroad at eighteen. I was going to college.
Speaker 1: My family wanted me to work in the concrete business.
Speaker 1: I was in central Massachusetts with super small town and uh,
Speaker 1: I was one of the first ones in my family
Speaker 1: had a seven kids to go to college. So for me,
Speaker 1: I was at that crossroad. In the gym, that two
Speaker 1: hours a day really gave me the outlet, and that outlet,
Speaker 1: UH turned in you know, it was a hobby and
Speaker 1: then of course turned into a career, you know, my
Speaker 1: early twenties. Then when I stepped away at forty and retired,
Speaker 1: it allowed you know, I'm kind of back to Okay,
Speaker 1: what is my stress reliever? What gives me uh a
Speaker 1: reason to you know? Every day pushed harder and harder
Speaker 1: with my work ethic, but I still need an outlet, right,
Speaker 1: So the training still is a huge part of my day.
Speaker 1: I mean, I tell my my supporters of fans or
Speaker 1: whoever I talk to all the time, the best part
Speaker 1: of my day is still going to the gym and
Speaker 1: working out. That's it's but it's routine if you follow me,
Speaker 1: you know, every day it's like I train it, you know,
Speaker 1: around ten or eleven o'clock in the morning, I do
Speaker 1: my cardio first thing when I wake up, you know,
Speaker 1: I eat my meals and then you know, sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: be back in the gym later in the evening. But
Speaker 1: it's just it's routine for me, and it's something that
Speaker 1: I've done since day one. Yes, what what would be
Speaker 1: like you advice? Because um, I've had some some guys
Speaker 1: and I'm fortunate because of the private gym's open back
Speaker 1: up so the two mm A gyms, I get a
Speaker 1: chance to go to everybody you know didn't have that
Speaker 1: access to. But what would be I guess you advice
Speaker 1: to somebody this because I've talked to a couple of
Speaker 1: my former teammates and guys is off right now that
Speaker 1: can't work out and doing different stuff. They're struggling, you know,
Speaker 1: depression wise and mentally and just they're fighting the fight
Speaker 1: right now. What will be your advice to some of
Speaker 1: these people that use this as advice to work out
Speaker 1: and do this and to get through it. You're still
Speaker 1: you're just gonna find one outlet, and that's usually setting
Speaker 1: a time. I try to do things early. So when
Speaker 1: I mentioned I get up, the first thing I do
Speaker 1: in the morning is I dive into a couple of
Speaker 1: emails or take care of a couple of things for
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, and then I grab a workout. It's really, hey,
Speaker 1: how I kind of start my day. And for those
Speaker 1: people that are looking even if it's just walking outside,
Speaker 1: running outside, I mean doing those kind of things. And
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people I know have used
Speaker 1: band training whatever else. But you have to set a
Speaker 1: schedule and every day. I always mentioned this when I
Speaker 1: was training is like groundhog Day for me. I don't
Speaker 1: really deviate much from a schedule because that's how I
Speaker 1: find works best for me. That way, you know, every day,
Speaker 1: this is the time slot I'm gonna give. And some
Speaker 1: of these people listen, they have to be at work
Speaker 1: at seven o'clock in the morning, they have to get
Speaker 1: up at four o'clock in order to get a workout in.
Speaker 1: It's easy to make excuses, but unfortunate. Only like to
Speaker 1: be successful, we have to go through the struggles. And
Speaker 1: I think that I think that you have the routine
Speaker 1: always works best. And my suggestion is while the gyms
Speaker 1: are closed, you've got to find that outlet. And we
Speaker 1: all have different functional training that you do. I mean
Speaker 1: you mentioned training with m M A type training and
Speaker 1: I do more weight training cardio. So like I you know,
Speaker 1: I go outside. I like to walk outside a lot
Speaker 1: of days, and unfortunately on the East coast, like it's
Speaker 1: cold there. But like it's too easy to make excuses.
Speaker 1: I think that's what people tend to do when they're
Speaker 1: under those kind of stress levels. Now, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'll tell anybody um that to try to get through
Speaker 1: this thing, like you're gonna you're gonna need the mental
Speaker 1: part of it to the in the physical part of it,
Speaker 1: because there there are repercussions from you know, you know,
Speaker 1: people call it COVID fifteen. I'm like, okay, you see
Speaker 1: the weight, but your cardio, vascul and and all these
Speaker 1: things is being affected. And I'm preaching to the choir
Speaker 1: and it. Man, I'm I'm gonna scream at this topic
Speaker 1: as loud as I possibly can that to get through
Speaker 1: this thing, you're gonna need your health. And I'm you know,
Speaker 1: the gems are the transmission rate of like point oh
Speaker 1: two and like people love science, they love nevers, I'm like,
Speaker 1: please please open these gems back up and do it safely,
Speaker 1: you know, do percent capacity, and let's start to work
Speaker 1: back to some kind of normalcy, man, because the repercussions
Speaker 1: of this thing long term, you know, people going to
Speaker 1: have the un quarantined mentally and physically for a very
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah. And I want to mention one thing,
Speaker 1: and that's the nutrition aspect, because I know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you posted pictures recently and you're in phenomenal condition. I
Speaker 1: know that wasn't just because you're training, like you follow
Speaker 1: a diet protocol. So I always mentioned, you know, in
Speaker 1: the morning, it's very important to start your day off
Speaker 1: with a great nutritional breakfast. And you know, for me,
Speaker 1: I have you know, egg whites, opmeal or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, idevate a little bit, you know of
Speaker 1: some some turkey, bacon or whatever else. But I start
Speaker 1: my day. I still eat at least four to six
Speaker 1: portionate meals a day. And to be successful, to have
Speaker 1: a successful body, I hate to put percentages out there,
Speaker 1: but when people look at like the figure behind me
Speaker 1: right when I got in that condition, it took me
Speaker 1: four months to come down from a big body weight
Speaker 1: to get in my top condition that we held for
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of days when we got on stage.
Speaker 1: But it was a process where I lost a pound
Speaker 1: er two each week. And I did that through deviating,
Speaker 1: like with a certain diet regimen where I ate more protein.
Speaker 1: You know, I I kept the bad foods out, I
Speaker 1: got away from bread and starches and I focused more
Speaker 1: on you know, wholesome foods and meal timing, so I,
Speaker 1: you know, every three hours something uh, you know, healthy
Speaker 1: That allowed me to be able to lose the body
Speaker 1: fat but obviously maintain the muscle mass. So uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a journey. It's a challenge, but you
Speaker 1: have to be dedicated to what you want to do.
Speaker 1: But diet is probably seventy of getting the peak body shape.
Speaker 1: It was. It's something I wished I learned a long
Speaker 1: time ago, back when I was playing, because you know,
Speaker 1: I was drinking. I was you know, when I played,
Speaker 1: I Papa John's pizza two or three times a week,
Speaker 1: and mentally, I just always thought, you know what, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go out and practice them, burn off the calories,
Speaker 1: but you don't really understand what it is doing to
Speaker 1: your body. So a couple of years ago I did
Speaker 1: decided to and I didn't go cold turkey or have
Speaker 1: some crazy diet, but I said, you know what, if
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm gonna eat junk food, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it once a week, and I'm gonna do it on
Speaker 1: this And I slowly, but I slowly started again to
Speaker 1: do that. Because people see me now like, oh, you
Speaker 1: decided to get in shape after you played football, I
Speaker 1: said no, I just I just started to learn, like, okay,
Speaker 1: you eat this at this time, you know, don't eat
Speaker 1: some big, heavy gass meal before you lay down and
Speaker 1: take a napple go to sleep. So it was it
Speaker 1: was really all about tweaking, tweaking you know, my my um,
Speaker 1: you know, my diet, and understanding your body a little
Speaker 1: bit more. I I actually, you know, it's funny, um,
Speaker 1: I think about doing a doing the right When the
Speaker 1: pandemic started around March, when it became public, I decided
Speaker 1: to get an allergy test because I didn't know, you know,
Speaker 1: certain foods can do certain things to your body, and
Speaker 1: I know gluten and all that stuff that we were
Speaker 1: really not supposed to be gluten. But I started to learn, like, okay,
Speaker 1: who I can't debrad or I'm not supposed to even dairy.
Speaker 1: Not just because I'm trying to change my diet. My
Speaker 1: body just won't react well to it. It's gonna blow me,
Speaker 1: It's gonna upset my stomach, use something like that. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I'm thirty six, you know, and you
Speaker 1: still learning about your body. Man, So you know you're right, man.
Speaker 1: The diet was everything. Yeah, I mean I learned that early.
Speaker 1: I worked with the nutrition and from the beginning, and
Speaker 1: you know, and people are afraid, like people are afraid
Speaker 1: of carbohydrates and whatever else. And I mean, you can
Speaker 1: still eat moderate foods. But I can't tell you how
Speaker 1: many times I have to preach to people. You know,
Speaker 1: you are what you eat, right, and the training goes
Speaker 1: along with the nutrition programs. It kind of it's like,
Speaker 1: you can't do you can't do the training without proper
Speaker 1: nutrition because you won't get the results. But I'll tell
Speaker 1: you, you you can stay on a decent diet and still
Speaker 1: maintain a pretty decent body without any exercise or even training.
Speaker 1: It may take you a little longer. If I was
Speaker 1: to put a person on a diet on a diet,
Speaker 1: I'd say, okay, let's get in the diet for a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and then add the weight turning, add
Speaker 1: partio vascular. Uh and listen, as you played football, you
Speaker 1: needed somebody fat. Obviously you're you're moving around in the
Speaker 1: field and you guys are you know, you're colliding, so
Speaker 1: you you can't be super super ripped. I'm the I'm
Speaker 1: sure he played with guys that you probably looked at
Speaker 1: they were like, how is this guy's genetically They're just
Speaker 1: unbelievably conditioned, right, And but those guys, you know, you
Speaker 1: just when when you're when you're a big guy, it's
Speaker 1: just really hard for you to hold that crazy condition
Speaker 1: all the time, especially when you're closer to three in
Speaker 1: the pounds. So are you doing more stuff? Um like virtually?
Speaker 1: Like you've given a virtual programs and stuff like that out.
Speaker 1: I know I've seen one thing, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: if you had like a whole regiment of program that
Speaker 1: people can follow. I do actually, uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: people that follow me on Instagram, notice, I actually just
Speaker 1: did a six week challenge. And I did a six
Speaker 1: week challenge because I know people want to start off
Speaker 1: their their new year right, So I started on January eleventh.
Speaker 1: I have I probably have a thousand active members on
Speaker 1: that that joined, and basically I give them nutrition programs,
Speaker 1: uh for six weeks training and nutrition, and then I
Speaker 1: do live feats such as this like on a on
Speaker 1: a Facebook group and I every week I'll get on
Speaker 1: there and I'll answer the questions that might be looming,
Speaker 1: like what you know, maybe I want to do this
Speaker 1: or that. And I did this based on the body type,
Speaker 1: whether an end no more ectomorph I mean trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what what position your body is in. But
Speaker 1: This is a great way to get people motivated and
Speaker 1: kickstart them. Not to say everyone. People may fall off
Speaker 1: after six weeks, but they may want to continue with it,
Speaker 1: and it's a great way to start and build up
Speaker 1: people's cal infiniten is because you know how many people
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, they look at themselves in
Speaker 1: the mirror and they say, I want to be something
Speaker 1: different than what I am. No one's truly satisfied at me.
Speaker 1: I can tell you even when I was a champion,
Speaker 1: you know, Mr Olympia winner, I still looked at holes
Speaker 1: in my physique and said I could still be better
Speaker 1: here and there, and that's what made me great. I
Speaker 1: was never acceptance of, you know, what I've actually was,
Speaker 1: although I did have confidence. I was proud of the
Speaker 1: way I looked. But you know, obviously you're your Your
Speaker 1: whole outlook kind of changes as you get older, and
Speaker 1: retirement has made me into oh, I want to be
Speaker 1: a lot leaner and not so muscular because it's very,
Speaker 1: very hard to maintain as you know, it's just it's
Speaker 1: too hard to carry that much mass. But that's what
Speaker 1: I kind of did to get people motivated. And um,
Speaker 1: I've always put out content to keep people driven. And
Speaker 1: I'm always preaching the nutrition thing. I'm showing my meals
Speaker 1: like that's the most thing I can do is show, hey,
Speaker 1: this is how I cook my food, this is what
Speaker 1: I eat, and this is the times I eat it.
Speaker 1: At no. I think that's great, man, seriously, because um,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we put out this stuff and I'll
Speaker 1: and I'll put out you know, obviously I talk a
Speaker 1: lot of ship and I you know, post stuff and
Speaker 1: keep it funny and because of social media, but I
Speaker 1: may post something that somebody else is watching it going
Speaker 1: through that. I'm fine, I'm not. I'm having a great day,
Speaker 1: but I know somebody else out there is it. I
Speaker 1: know somebody's going through some ship and so and and
Speaker 1: with you, Like you know, this stuff is free. I
Speaker 1: mean I see you know when you when you talk
Speaker 1: and show like it's free and you're helping these people
Speaker 1: out with it. Man. So um, that's pretty cool. Just
Speaker 1: what what's next? What you got what you got up next?
Speaker 1: If they open back some of these events, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I have some stuff. I mean I have a
Speaker 1: contest that I'm promoting here in Las Vegas on April three.
Speaker 1: It's at the South Point casino and and you know,
Speaker 1: Vegas has been pretty hit pretty hard right now. I
Speaker 1: mean you haven't really been making I'm sure a lot
Speaker 1: of trips to Las Vegas. Uh yeah, I was just actually,
Speaker 1: uh I was there a few weeks ago, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at even possibly moving there too. Nice. So I
Speaker 1: have a contest on April third, I'm mooting. It's called
Speaker 1: the Ja Cutler Desert Classic. I do four of these
Speaker 1: a year, so I do two in Boston because I'm
Speaker 1: from there, I do one in uh Las Vegas, and
Speaker 1: I actually do one in Virginia. And this is an
Speaker 1: amateur show that people can get up on stage and
Speaker 1: compete similar to like we did, and that you know,
Speaker 1: they win trophies or whatever else. But this gives people motivation.
Speaker 1: It's it's about uh. I think it's about eleven weeks
Speaker 1: away at this point, so people are on their diets
Speaker 1: and getting ready for it. And that's kind of my
Speaker 1: tickoff show of the season. But I am booked at
Speaker 1: a few events. I'm doing a ton of social media,
Speaker 1: a lot of YouTube au Ja Cauler TV. Uh just
Speaker 1: staying active that way, and and to be honest, just
Speaker 1: working on my brands in the background, and you know,
Speaker 1: every day trying to do this social media stuff even
Speaker 1: now is you know, I'm a guy that's kind of
Speaker 1: stepped away and sometimes, you know, at my age to
Speaker 1: sit there and say, man, I gotta film my food
Speaker 1: or this and that. I I I sometimes have to
Speaker 1: be like, man, you know, this isn't what I necessarily
Speaker 1: want to do all the time, but I do it
Speaker 1: for my for my followers and to keep people with
Speaker 1: people motivated. Yeah, I was always found that weird man
Speaker 1: um and you know, post a certain workouts. You want
Speaker 1: to do it to put the information out there, but
Speaker 1: to continuously doing it like that ship is work, you know,
Speaker 1: like you're going through outs today and this real works.
Speaker 1: Where where can people find the events coming up in Vegas? Uh?
Speaker 1: It's it's on Instagram J Cutler Desert Classic and also
Speaker 1: just you know, if you follow me you'll see it. Uh.
Speaker 1: But the website is also J. J Cutler Desert Classic
Speaker 1: dot com. So it's you know, we are going to
Speaker 1: allow some audience there. I don't know what it's gonna
Speaker 1: be like by April here, but hopefully we're heading towards
Speaker 1: a better direction than last year. We had to cancel
Speaker 1: the event totally, so we will have the event. It
Speaker 1: will take place, and uh, you know, that's kind of
Speaker 1: a kickoff from this point forward and normally I'm overseas,
Speaker 1: but that's not gonna happen until the end of this
Speaker 1: end of the year. Olympia is probably gonna be pushed
Speaker 1: till the end of the year, like it was. It's
Speaker 1: normally in September. They pushed in December last year. Arnold
Speaker 1: Classics a big event in Ohio that's gonna be pushed
Speaker 1: toil Septemer eleventh right now, So it looks like we're
Speaker 1: kind of sitting tight to un till the spring and
Speaker 1: summer of one. Well hopefully, man, when everything clear up,
Speaker 1: well we'll catch up. And if I can get out
Speaker 1: there to the vent in Vegas, I'll definitely be there. Um,
Speaker 1: I get up to Vegas probably once a month or
Speaker 1: once every other month. I'm always there, So definitely let's connect.
Speaker 1: Do you've got a lot of stuff going on. I'd
Speaker 1: love to see you, uh at the working out in
Speaker 1: the morning here in Las Vegas and the future. Man,
Speaker 1: i'd be awesome for sure, all right, brother, Hey, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, man. Thank you guys, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: whenever you get a chance to talk to someone who's
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