1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: It's Veterans Day. Also, we have Jillian Michaels on. We're 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: going to talk about these Supreme Court cases, Obamacare, all 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: that and more coming up on them. Right, it is 4 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Veterans Day today, obviously, I'm sure you're already well aware, 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: and it is the day that you should pick up 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: your phone and call the veteran in your life, text 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: the veteran in your life. We really do have the 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: land of the Free, not because of the Constitution, and 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: I love the Constitution. We have the land of the 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: free because brave people have been willing to fight and 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: die for this country throughout our history. That's why we 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: are free. That's why we remain free. That's why we 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: haven't been overrun by China and Russia just yet, because 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: we still have legions and legions of brave people willing 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: to serve. If you have someone in your life like that, ever, 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: but he does, it's a good day to shoot him 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: at text, give him a phone call, just say thank you. 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: That's all, Just say thank joining me now for this 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: wonderful Veteran's Day. Tom Sour, former Marine Corps Infantryman, Navy 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: bomb squad officer, will get into all that and he's 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: also the founder of the MacArthur Group. Okay, Tom, why 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: don't you join the Marines? 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to go, you know, kill people and break 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: their things back then, you know that was free nine 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: to eleven, and you know that was you know what 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: you do. You joined the Marine Corps for that, right, 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: that's what they do. 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: You know this I do. But there are other options. 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: You could have joined the Army or the Air Force. 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: Even though you're straight. Why did you choose the Marines? 31 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: I think I want to be the best. 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: I think that's what it was. And I you know 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: when later on in my career, I spent a lot 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: of time with the Army, and you know it was 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: your mileage mayvery did some stuff with Special Forces with 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: first Battalion for Special Forces Group out of Okinawa, and 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: it was an interesting experience. 38 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: So it was good. 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of good stuff. 40 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: But Okinawa was always an interesting experience. I do remember 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: that as well. Okay, so, bomb squad, what does a 42 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: Navy bomb squad officer do? My only experience with this 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: is watching that movie Blown Away. 44 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: It's the it's better known within the military as EOD 45 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Explosive Ordnance Disposal. I just usually say bomb squad, because 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 2: most folks don't know what EOD means or stands for. 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: So what we did is we render safe any and 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 2: all explosive hazards. During most of my time, I actually 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: specialized in weapons of mass destruction, so that was the 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: nuclear threat, the biological chemical That's why I did with 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: that Army Special Operations Unit. Worked really closely with a 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: couple of other you know, well known units as well 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: as far as on the counter terrorism side of things, 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: so you know, rhymes with Seal Team six. Those guys 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: supported all of them. Did a lot of fun work 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: with all those guys, and spend a lot of time 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: at Los Alamos National Lab, Sandia National Lab, you know, 58 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: learning about nuclear weapons and all that stuff. It was 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 2: exciting times. Did some really cool stuff. Fortunately though never 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: had to actually do my job because that would have 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: been bad for all of us if we actually had to, 62 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, do the job. 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: Tom. There are who knows how many young men out 64 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: there watching this, and they are curious, what are the requirements, 65 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: what's the training like to get into cool stuff like that? Men? 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: I want to go do cool stuff, especially young men, 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: not old guys like us. 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: I got to say that you got to be first off, 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: in very good physical condition, but you also have to 70 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: have a brain that works. So most Navy EOD Techs 71 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: and uty officers are something like highly athletic nerds. They've 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: got to be pretty good technically as well. So you know, 73 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: for example, Navy EOD training is considered to be the 74 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: second most academically difficult training pipeline the Navy, next to 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: nuclear power nuclear engineering, and probably the second most maybe 76 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: you know, debatable of physically demanding, next to buds. So 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: we need somebody who is exceptionally intelligent, knows how to 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: follow directions, good with their hands, and also knows how 79 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: to jump, swim, dive, shoot, all that good stuff. So 80 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: we need I need bus somebody who is the full 81 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: package and very proud. My brother is also a Navy 82 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: o D officer. He's just been selected for commander for five. 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: We are a very small community. There's only about four 84 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: hundred Navy EOD officers officers on active duty in about 85 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: eleven or twelve hundred listed, So if you've been in 86 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: the community for longer than a minute, we all know 87 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: who you are. So when my brother was going through training, 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: you know, I've got buddies of mine who are his 89 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: instructors at dive school, in Neo d school, you know, 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: send me a pictures of him getting thrashed. 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: It was great stuff. So love that love always fun. Yeah, 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: that's always good. All right. Tell me about how we're 93 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: taking care of veterans in this country or not taking 94 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: care of veterans. 95 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm glad you asked that one. So what 96 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: I've been doing for the past six years or so 97 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: my business partner, who is actually my classmate from Annapolis, 98 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: we started a company that focuses on very intensive mental 99 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: health treatment and diction treatment for veterans. And when I 100 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: say mental health addiction treatment, I'm not talking about like 101 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: a counseling session where we just spoke to them once. 102 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: These are guys who are the most vulnerable, who are 103 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: really on the brink of death or going or going 104 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: back to prison, or these are guys who've already lost 105 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: their families, as in they've cut them off. These are 106 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: guys who are really at rock bottom. And we did that. 107 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: We started that company through a community care network contract 108 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: with the Department of Veterans Affairs, which was a result 109 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 2: from the VA Mission Act, which was from Trump forty 110 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 2: five's term, and unfortunately, right now there are unelected VA 111 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: bureaucrats who are doing everything they can to derail community care. 112 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: So it's gotten so bad in fact that unfortunately myself 113 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 2: and other community care providers like me, uh, we're looking 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: at closing our doors right now because there are people 115 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: within VA. Yeah, and I've been looking. To be honest 116 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: with me, I'm calling you from DC right now, and 117 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: I've been in direct communication with senior people at VA. 118 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: They understand the problem. But here's the part of it 119 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: is that this is like the deep state stuff. It 120 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: really is. You might not know this just but like 121 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: the VA is the second largest agency in the federal government. 122 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: People don't know that is over four hundred thousand employees. 123 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: The VA has more employees than the US Army has soldiers. Right, 124 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know that. And if you 125 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: think about that, there are within VA right now. There 126 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: are currently no Trump political appointees within the Veterans Healthcare 127 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: Administration right who have been confirmed yet by the Senate. 128 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: So right now you've got the careers so to speak, 129 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, inmates running the asylum right now, and I'm 130 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: talking to senior folks. They recognize there's a problem. They're 131 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: looking into it. But what's happened now is between reducing 132 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: the amount that they reimburse community care providers such as 133 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: my company by two thirds, which they did earlier this year, 134 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 2: and then cutting off the flow of veterans who need help. 135 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: By the way I mean this is when the vas 136 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: are at capacity the VA hospitals themselves for inpatient treatment, 137 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: and there are very few options for them. I'm not 138 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 2: sure what's happening to them. I've testified before House Veterans 139 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: Veri's Committee on this two years ago. I've been pretty 140 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: active on the hill, and despite some very encouraging news 141 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: I thought we would see from VA at the high level, 142 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: the problem is, though, it's not making its way to 143 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: the field at all. 144 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: Can the Trump administration get this fixed in three years? 145 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Why does this take so long? I understand it's only 146 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: been eleven months, but is this something we can get fixed? 147 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: That we need to get this fixed? I agree with you. 148 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: I would say that the first thing that needs to 149 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: happen is the VHA, so the Veterans Healthcare Administration, which 150 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: is the biggest part of VA by far, I mean 151 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: most of VA. The budget and people is in healthcare, right. 152 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: I think it's like eighty eighty five percent of the 153 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: VA budget is going into healthcare, and of that at 154 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: least the operating budget. And so then of that, we 155 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: don't have any political appointees in there, right, So the 156 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: Senate needs to get off their asses. They need to 157 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: confirm those folks, and a number of them as well, 158 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: because sometimes there's only so much at the highest levels. 159 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: And I feel that this is a missed opportunity for 160 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: the VA, I really do. And you know, there's lots 161 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: of Senate and House hearings. I've testified in won, I've 162 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 2: sat in on a dozen more, and they keep talking 163 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: about how bad the problem is. People with VA say 164 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: that at the top level, say it's going to get fixed. 165 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: But guess what, you know, I've said this very clearly 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: to a senior person in the VA, A very senior one, 167 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: is that look, people within the VA, the careers, you know, 168 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: these are their deep state types, straight of state, whatever 169 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: you want to call them. They hate community care because 170 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: they look as a threat to their budgets. They hate 171 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: the secretary, and they hate the president, I mean straight up. 172 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: And so think of it like this. Imagine if the 173 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: VA was a very dysfunctional, bloated public school system. Right, 174 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: community care providers are the charter schools. So, and then 175 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: if you put that school district in charge of which 176 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: students they send to the charter schools, if you put 177 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: that school district in charge of how much that school 178 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: gets paid, what do you think is going to happen? 179 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: Right? 180 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: So that's that's essentially it. They look as a threat 181 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: to their budget. 182 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: Wonderful. Yeah, and look, thank you, my brother. Yeah, happy veterans, 183 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: stay and simplify my man. All right, let's talk about 184 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: speaking of healthcare, Obamacare, how badly it's failing. I want 185 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: to talk to you first about your stomach. No, I 186 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: don't care that there's a little extra fat on there, 187 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: believe me me too, talking about in how's your gut work? How? 188 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: How is it? How does your stomach feel? My sister, 189 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: she's the one who started talking to me about colostrum. 190 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: Gotta try colostrum. I gotta try colostrum. You gotta try 191 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: cowboy colostrum. That's what I Okay, I finally agreed. I 192 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: was a little skeptical, to be honest with you, but 193 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: I agreed, and so I got the chocolate one. I 194 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: put two scoops of it in my coffee every morning. 195 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm ever going to stop. I absolutely 196 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: love this stuff. It's not only delicious, I essentially have 197 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: chocolate coffee every morning. My gut feels so much better. 198 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: Go to cowboycolostrum dot com, slash jessetv. Save yourself some money. 199 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: We'll be back. Barack Obama sucks. Look, just just stay 200 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: with me here because Obamacare is in the news. It's 201 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: in the news because nobody can afford health insurance anymore. 202 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: We actually just renewed our health insurance, that annual thing 203 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: you have to do, and it's company insurance. Should be good. 204 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: It's trash. It's so expensive. Normal people can't afford health insurance. 205 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: It's awful, and it wasn't always that way. But that 206 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: brings us back to the man who authored the current 207 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: health care crisis, the crisis being you can't afford it. 208 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: Barack Obama is his name, Barack Obama, who's doing the 209 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: podcast circuit lying through his teeth. 210 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: We have blown through, just in the last six months, 211 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: a whole range of of not simply assumptions, but rules 212 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 3: and loss and practices that were put in place to 213 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: ensure that nobody's above the wall and that we don't 214 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 3: use the federal government to simply reward our friends and 215 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: punish our enemies, and the same things obviously happening in 216 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: the Justice Department. 217 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the guy who sent the FBI and CIA 218 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: after Donald Trump. Also, why does he sit like that? 219 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: No man should ever sit like that. It's so feminine. 220 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: It really bothers me. But we're not going to major 221 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: on that right now. I do want to remind you 222 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: about something just the poison that Barack Obama put in 223 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: the bloodstream of this country. Mass shootings, it's going to happen. 224 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: They're the worst thing in the world. Someone shoots up 225 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: the school, shoots up something. It's just the worst thing 226 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: in the world. We all hate it. But there's something 227 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: that happens today that maybe you just have baked in 228 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: the cake. That's something being democrats in the media, Democrat 229 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: politicians all over social media. They will immediately when a 230 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: mass shooting, honestly, while it's still happening, they will immediately 231 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: start gun grabbing immediately. You see it. I don't have 232 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: to repeat it, You've seen it over and over and 233 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: over again. But you should understand, was not always this 234 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: way for most of my life when I paid attention 235 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: to politics, That's not something that really happened. If there 236 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: was a terrible tragedy of mass shooting of some kind, 237 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: politicians would normally be real stoic about the whole thing. 238 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: Maybe get up and give a speech. Hey, let's all 239 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: come together, we need to pray. That kind of a thing. 240 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: So why do they all do the opposite? Now, why 241 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: do they all stand on the dead bodies and immediately 242 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: start grabbing for your guns. Well, i'll tell you why, 243 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Barack Obama's why. This is not about politics. 244 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: This is about these families and families all across the country. 245 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 5: Who we're saying, let's make it a. 246 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: Little harder for our kids to get gunn The fact 247 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: that that's twenty six year olds were gunned down in 248 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: the most violent fashion possible and this town couldn't do 249 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 4: anything about it was stunning to me. And so the 250 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: question then becomes, what can we do about it? The 251 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: only thing that's going to change is public opinion. If 252 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 4: public opinion does not demand change in Congress, it will 253 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: not change. 254 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: Each time we see one of these mass shootings. Our 255 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: thoughts and prayers are not enough. 256 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: He put that in the bloodstream of this country. Now 257 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: Democrats think it's normal. They all do it. A true 258 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: revolutionary who would never dream of just bringing the country together. 259 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Everything was an opportunity to move the revolution forward. But 260 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: let's focus for a moment on his signature piece of legislation, Obamacare. 261 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: To our credit, we knew it was a disaster. The 262 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: right railed and railed and railed against Obamacare when he 263 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: was out there trying to sell it to America. And 264 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: of course we got this courtesy of mays More. They 265 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: lied through his teeth about the whole thing. 266 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: It will actually reduce the deficit by four trillion dollars 267 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 5: over the long term. Reducing the waste and inefficiency in 268 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 5: Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan. 269 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 5: It will slow the growth of healthcare costs for our families, 270 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 5: our businesses, and our government. There will be a provision 271 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 5: in this plan that requires us to come forward with 272 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize. 273 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: You can't afford health insurance. Because Barack Obama and the 274 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Democrats past Obamacare, insurance companies raking in record profits. Mind 275 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: when companies make profits, but you can't afford health insurance. 276 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: Insurance companies have record profits, and now were stuck with this. 277 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I can't help but think about all 278 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: those Republicans who ran for office, House and Senate and 279 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: President promising that they would repeal it. We will repeal it, 280 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: we'll repeal it, we'll repeal it. In fact, while Democrats, 281 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: while Barack Obama was president, Democrats had control right they 282 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: could veto things. Republicans in the House of Representatives voted 283 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: seven times to repeal Obamacare when they knew Barack Obama 284 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: would of course strike that down. Then after Donald Trump 285 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: won in twenty sixteen, we had the House, we had 286 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: the Senate, we had the presidency. They failed to repeal Obamacare. 287 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: Now we are in this awful situation where people can't 288 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: afford healthcare. They can't afford health insurance because the GOP 289 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: never repealed it and because Democrats passed it. Now Trump's 290 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: out there saying things like this. 291 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 6: Well, I watched Obama from when this thing came about. 292 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 6: As you know, I have posted very strongly. Unfortunately, we 293 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 6: had a couple of negative votes, which should never have happened. 294 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 6: But I said it's going to be a disaster. And 295 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 6: I was exactly right that the premiums have gone up 296 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 6: like rocket ships. And I'm not just talking about recently. 297 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 6: I'm talking about for years. They've been going up. And 298 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 6: he said premiums will go down, everything will be wonderful. 299 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 6: It's horrible health insurance at a very high priced And 300 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 6: what I want, and probably what you're alluding to, is 301 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 6: the fact that I want instead of going to the 302 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 6: insurance companies, I want the money to go into an 303 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 6: account for people with the people by their own health insurance. 304 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 6: It's so good, the insurance will be better, it'll cost less. 305 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 6: Everybody's going to be happy. They're going to feel like 306 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 6: entrepreneurs are actually able to go out and negotiate their 307 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 6: own health insurance and they can use it only for 308 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 6: that reason, that's only for that purpose. And if we 309 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 6: did that, that would be so exciting. Call it trump Care, 310 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 6: call it whatever you want to call it, but anything 311 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 6: but Obamacare. Obamacare is a disaster, just like he was 312 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 6: as a president. 313 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: Okay, sounds good. Mike Johnson's out there saying things like this, We. 314 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 7: Are subsidizing very wealthy insurance companies that is not helping 315 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 7: costs go down, it's driving premiums up even higher. So 316 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 7: Republicans want to fix the broken system. We don't want 317 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 7: to throw good money at a broken and failing system. 318 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 7: And the Unaffordable Care Act has been that since it 319 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 7: was signed in a law passed by the Democrats alone 320 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 7: back in twenty ten. We've got to reduce the cost 321 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 7: of health care and the cost of living by the way, 322 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 7: and Republicans are the ones that have the ideas to 323 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 7: do that. 324 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, we have ideas. Do we really, though, 325 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: are we going to do something? Because I'm sorry, I've 326 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: walked down this road for too long. We're gonna repeal it. 327 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna repeal it. We're going to repeal and replace it. 328 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: You say you have ideas, Scott percent didn't sound quite 329 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: as confident. 330 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 8: Presidents also come forward with a new proposal overnight saying 331 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 8: it's time instead to do away with Obamacare instead to 332 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 8: have the money go directly to the people. Do you 333 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 8: have a formal proposal to do that? 334 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: We don't have a formal proposal. 335 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 9: But you know, what I have noticed over time is 336 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 9: that the Democrats give all these ability or welling in 337 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 9: names the Affordable Care Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, and 338 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 9: we end up with just the opposite. You know, the 339 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 9: Affordable Care Act has become unaffordable and the Inflation Reduction 340 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 9: Act set off the greatest inflation in fifty years. 341 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 8: Well, I'm a little confused because the President in posting 342 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 8: about that overnight and into this morning. But you're not 343 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 8: proposing that to the Senate right now. 344 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 9: We're not proposing it to the Senate right now. 345 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: All right, Look, we need to do something. We have 346 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: the House, we have the Senate, we have the Presidency. 347 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: I understand there are limits on what laws we can 348 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: get through the Senate because we don't have sixty votes. 349 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I understand that, but it's been too long and right 350 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: now what's happening is people are sticker shocked beyond belief 351 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: for their health insurance, and Republicans need to put forward 352 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: concrete proposals, a law even that will help that we'll 353 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: get the government out of it. And if we do not, 354 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen. Not for you or me, 355 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: but you know what's gonna happen. The normies out there, 356 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: they're going to look to Democrats who will promise to 357 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: give them more money. They will we have to do something. 358 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: Let's get something done. But hey, it is the GOP 359 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: after all. Anyway, let's move on. We're going to talk 360 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: to Jillian Michaels in a moment. Remember we used to 361 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: watch Jillian Michael's help fat people Lose weight. Now she's 362 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: going to join us on the show. Before we talked 363 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: to Jillian, I want to talk to you about your 364 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: cell phone, specifically the company you use. Is it Verizon? 365 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: Do you remember Arctic Frost? This huge investigation going on 366 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: right now? Remember what all these senators came out and said, 367 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: Verizon just flat out handed over all their data, no must, 368 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: no fuss, just grabbed it and worked with the cheka immediately. 369 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: Do you have one of these big solace mobile companies 370 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: that hate your guts, that would turn you into the 371 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: Feds and a heartbeat, Why don't you switch to pure Talk. 372 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: You'll save a fortune. You're not going to sacrifice everything. 373 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: They're on the same towers. Switch to Pure Talk. Veteran 374 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: led right now they're giving rescue dogs to vets with PTSD. 375 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: That's my cell phone company. Go to puretalk dot com 376 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: slash JESSETV. We'll be back. 377 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 10: Many of my friends are unhappy. They think we should 378 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 10: have kept our government closed indefinitely to protest the policies 379 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 10: of the Trump administration. I share their opinions of this administration, 380 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 10: but cannot accept a strategy which wages political battle at 381 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 10: the expense of my neighbors at paycheck or the food 382 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 10: for his children. 383 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: It really is kind of bonkers that they just shut 384 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: down the country to just give the middle finger to 385 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Trump somewhere. It's a weird country we live in. Now 386 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: joining me now, Gosh. I used to watch her help 387 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: fat people lose weight on television. Now she's joining me 388 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: on my television show. Jillian Michael's host of the Wonderful 389 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: Keeping at Real podcast. Jillian, It's just so odd that, 390 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, one political party's really stupid, if we're being honest, 391 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: that's the GEOP and the other one like these terrorists 392 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: that just do the worst possible things. And I don't 393 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: know who I'm supposed to root for. 394 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 11: Honestly, I have tried so hard to get to the 395 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 11: bottom of this, and here's what I've taken away from it. 396 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 11: The Democrats put the COVID era Obamacare subsidies in, they 397 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 11: set them to expire at this time. They were always 398 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 11: supposed to be temporary. The reason they didn't even attempt 399 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 11: to make them permanent is because they were so costly 400 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 11: they never could have even possibly passed. 401 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 12: And now they're raising, you know, a hell in high 402 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 12: water over this. 403 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 11: But after they won the elections, they've decided, screw it, 404 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 11: and we're gonna move forward anyway. So the whole thing 405 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 11: was just for optics. This whole we were all held 406 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 11: hostage for optics. That's how it seems to me. 407 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: It does. It's was for appearance's sake. And now, I mean, 408 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: now that the government is going back to work, I 409 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: don't know that that's a better situation anyway. People can't 410 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: afford health insurance. It's a big deals. You've really just 411 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: got to try to bust your butt to avoid the 412 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: doctor now. Because no one can afford health insurance. It's bonkers. 413 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: You know. 414 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 11: There are so many things that are wrong with regard 415 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 11: to insurance across the board. You can't get homeowners insurance, 416 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 11: you can't get car insurance. There's something systemically wrong with 417 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 11: that entire system. 418 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 12: But listen, I'm not in government. 419 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 11: This is not my area of expertise, but I often 420 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 11: wonder we subsidize soda. 421 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 13: Literally, what if we subsidized healthier things for people so 422 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 13: they would be healthier and health insurance would cost that, Like, 423 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 13: there has to be a better way. 424 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 12: Surely there has to be a better way. 425 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 14: And I mean not to. 426 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 11: Sound like a complete jerk, but we could probably save 427 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 11: the billions of dollars in healthcare costs for people who 428 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 11: are not here legally that end up going to the 429 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 11: emergency room because we are all paying for that. And 430 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 11: this is where I deeply understand America. First, you got 431 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 11: to take care of the taxpayers first. 432 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost odd that the people of this country 433 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: they don't want the country flooded with foreigners in mass 434 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: from all over the place. That's a very normal thing 435 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: for any citizen. Yet our politicians on both sides has 436 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: spent decades doing exactly that. We're supposed to have a 437 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: representative government, at least that's what I was taught in school, 438 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: but it doesn't look that representative when it comes to 439 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: the issue of immigration at all. 440 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 11: Have you gone back in time yet and watched the 441 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 11: videos of Obama Bill Clinton Clinton saying all the same 442 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 11: things that Trump said about the border and illegal immigration. 443 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 12: And in fact, both Obama and Bill Clinton were so 444 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 12: prolific that they deported millions more than Trump has. 445 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 11: I think freaking Clinton deported like twelve and a half 446 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 11: million using a loophole that he created called expedited returns, 447 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 11: where people who came into the country were shot right 448 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 11: out as though they were never here, if they couldn't 449 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 11: prove they were here for more than fourteen days, and 450 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 11: if they were in within one hundred miles of any 451 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 11: border in. 452 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 12: The United States. 453 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 11: And yet when Trump does it, he's an authoritarian, fascist, racist. 454 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 12: So it's so wild to me. 455 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: You used to be a Democrat, and you used to 456 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: be a Californian, and apparently you have decided to abandon 457 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: both of those communist states. 458 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 11: What happened, okay, well, what happened, for example, is what 459 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 11: I just mentioned. I don't know who this party is anymore. 460 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 11: And it's been said by people far more intelligent and 461 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 11: well known than me that I didn't leave the left. 462 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 11: The left left me when I was a nineties Liberal 463 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 11: or in early two thousands liberal. This was not a 464 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 11: party that advocated for open borders. This wasn't a party 465 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 11: that wanted sex changes for children. Nobody believed and having 466 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 11: biological males and female sports. 467 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 12: Nobody wanted to defund the police. I mean, this was 468 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 12: not a thing. Nobody was emptying rikers. Nobody was doing that. 469 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 12: So the Democrats. Oh and by the way, nobody was 470 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 12: for socialism. And those are just a few examples. We 471 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 12: could be here your entire show with me giving you 472 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 12: a list of all. 473 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 11: The things that have changed, in my opinion, for the worst. 474 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 11: And that's effectively what happened. The party is unrecognizable and 475 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 11: their policies have wrecked havoc on California. 476 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: Do you find it hard to adjust to the Florida weather? 477 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: And I might love Florida, but gosh, during the summer, 478 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: it's just unbearable. When you were California, where it's just 479 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: just paradise weatherwise, that has to suck, right. 480 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 12: I actually love hot weather. 481 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 11: But the sad part of this story is that I 482 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 11: have some family that I need to help, and I 483 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 11: have a family member who's older or not well, so 484 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 11: I have to be closer to California. So we ended 485 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 11: up getting a place in Wyoming, which is beautiful, but 486 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 11: it's about to enter like a Game of Thrones kind 487 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 11: of winter, and I will take a Florida summer. 488 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 12: Over, you know, John Stark winter, any day of the week. 489 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 12: It's just yeah, yeah, But I love the people, and I. 490 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 11: Love the way it's governed, and it is beautiful when 491 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 11: you are not losing fingers to frostbite. 492 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm well, well amended with those winners. I grew 493 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: up in Montana. I want to play you this little 494 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: clip Nancy Pelosi Grandma Vodka talking about Gavin news in history. 495 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 15: It's clear that this governor has a vision for our country. 496 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 15: He has knowledge of our country and our state, the 497 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 15: state of California, the fourth largest economic in the world. 498 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 15: Gavin manages that way. That's with great dignity. He has 499 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 15: strategic thinking about how to get things done, and that 500 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 15: is what has brought us together here. When this opportunity occurred. 501 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 14: Gavin had a plan. 502 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 16: He's a man with a plan, and that's what brings. 503 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 14: Us here today. 504 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: Setting aside the liquid lunch she had before that little speech, 505 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsome concerns me. He raises good money. He concerns me. 506 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: For twenty twenty eight, I personally find him detestable, but 507 00:28:59,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: he concerns me. 508 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 12: Oh God, he terrifies me. 509 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 11: Joe Rogan said this best. He destroyed San Francisco. Then 510 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 11: you failed upwards and you destroyed California. And now what 511 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 11: it was just a test drawn and you're going to 512 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 11: destroy the country. Nothing is better since Gavin Newsom has 513 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 11: become the governor of California, everything is worse. 514 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 12: He inherited a surplus. 515 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 11: Now we have a multi billion dollar deficit. Homelessness is 516 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 11: up by like thirty plus percent. 517 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 12: Crime is rampant. 518 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 11: The most vulnerable are getting hurt by his policies. And 519 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 11: I could give you just one example of a law 520 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 11: they passed so cops would not be able to go 521 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 11: after prostitutes for loitering. And they did this because they 522 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 11: were worried about women of color and trans people who 523 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 11: were prostituting themselves. 524 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 12: On the street. 525 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 11: Ready, so gangs, of course stepped up their game, and 526 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 11: they're now trafficking miners who have fallen through the cracks 527 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 11: of the foster care system and the police can literally do. 528 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 12: Nothing about it. 529 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 11: There's a great article, if you don't believe me, in 530 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 11: the New York Times about it. In the area is 531 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 11: called the Blade. Like this is the kind of stuff 532 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 11: that Gavin's policies have begotten California. And there's been a 533 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 11: mass exodus, and I'll give you one more and then 534 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 11: I'll shut up. He went on Sean Ryan recently and 535 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 11: he's like, oh, utterable utter the people who are living 536 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 11: California not true, not true. 537 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 12: We've had more people come in, more people. 538 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 11: So when you actually do a little homework, one and 539 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 11: a half million native California residents and American citizens have 540 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 11: left the state for other states. But he did have 541 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 11: an influx of roughly nine hundred and eighty six thousand 542 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 11: people from other countries. He's just he's a pathological liar 543 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 11: and a horrible person. 544 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: It was wonderful. It took our most beautiful state and 545 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: filled it with foreigners and training hookers. That's where we're 546 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: at now, Jillian, thank you man, I appreciate it. Come 547 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: back all right, Supreme Court stuff with Bill Jacobson. Before 548 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: we get to that. We really do need to try 549 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: to avoid the doctor. What do you do to avoid 550 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: the doctor? You know what I did this morning after 551 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: I ate my breakfast, sat down with my little pill 552 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: thing like an old man, and I have my male 553 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 1: vitality stack from chalk. Every day male vitality stack from 554 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: choc Your tea levels are under attack. Because of the 555 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: estrogen and our waters. Our manliness as a country is 556 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: under attack. We've lost fifty percent of our testosterone in 557 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: fifty years. We have to reverse that. We have to 558 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: make sure we are strong, We have to make sure 559 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: we're in good moods, good energy. Go to chalk dot 560 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: com slash jessetv. They have female vitality stacks for the ladies, 561 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: male vitality stacks for the men. We'll be back. 562 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 16: We're going to issue a dividend to our middle income 563 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 16: people and lower income people of about two thousand dollars, 564 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 16: and we're going to use the remaining tariffs to lower 565 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 16: our debt. The real numbers are trillions of dollars have 566 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 16: been taken in or have gotten in terms of investment 567 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 16: from the tariffs. And so if that were ever reversed, 568 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 16: it would be a disaster. Frankly, it would be a 569 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 16: national security problem for our country. And nobody thinks it's 570 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 16: going to be reversed. I think we had a very 571 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 16: good court case, as you know, it's before the Supreme 572 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 16: Court right now. 573 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: But if that were ever. 574 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 16: Reversed, you know, people are saying, oh, it's a billion dollars. 575 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 16: Some people said, oh, it's two billions, Well, that obviously 576 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 16: we can handle very easily. But this is trillions of 577 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 16: dollars we're talking about. 578 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Trump sounds like he thinks it might get reversed. 579 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: That's how Bill about it? Joining me now, Bill Jacobson, 580 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: founder of Legal Insurrection cor Now law professor Bill, what's 581 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: going on with the tariffs? Are they gonna get overturned? 582 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Partially overturned? But what does all this mean for us? 583 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 14: Well, I think they'll either get overturned or they won't. 584 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 14: I don't think it'll be partially, and I think it's 585 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 14: a flip of the coin. Listening to over two hours 586 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 14: of argument the other day in the Supreme Court, I 587 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 14: don't think anybody can predict how it's gonna go. What 588 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 14: I do think is that mainstream media has an agenda 589 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 14: to portray it like Trump's gonna lose. Trump's gonna lose. 590 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 14: I don't think that's true. It might happen, but I 591 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 14: think it's close. And it all gets down to not 592 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,719 Speaker 14: whether he properly declared an emergency, but whether tariffs are 593 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 14: one of the items of relief. Having declared an emergency, 594 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 14: he can use because tariffs aren't mentioned in the statute 595 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 14: he's acting under. But there is a term in the 596 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 14: statute called to regulate importation. He has that power, and everybody, 597 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 14: it was a very strange scene. Everybody during the oral 598 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 14: argument said that phrase gives him the power to completely 599 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 14: cut off foreign trade. He can ban under that power 600 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 14: any imports from China, from the EU, from anywhere in 601 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 14: the world. And Kavanaugh and I think a couple of 602 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 14: the other justices were saying, like, you're telling me he 603 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 14: can cut off trade completely, but he can't impose a tariff, 604 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 14: which is a much lesser remedy. And that's why I 605 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 14: don't think it's so clear. And the government's arguing these 606 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 14: are not normal tariffs. These are tariffs meant to extract 607 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 14: concessions from foreign governments. So it's really regulatory tariffs meant 608 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 14: to allow the president to conduct foreign policy. So I 609 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 14: don't know how this is going to go if I 610 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 14: think it's probably leaning against Trump, but it's going to 611 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 14: be close. 612 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: Can you drill down a little bit on the declaring 613 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: an emergency thing? Those of us who still have PTSD 614 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: from the COVID era remembered how many politicians declared everything 615 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: to be an emergency. This is an emergency. I can 616 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: do this because an emergency bill. Aren't there supposed to 617 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: be rules and laws about an emergency otherwise and just 618 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: declare them all the time, which they all do. 619 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 14: Now, Yes, there's a specific statute he invoked passed by 620 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 14: Congress into law which permits the president in times of 621 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 14: national emergency to invoke certain emergency powers, and so he 622 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 14: declared an emergency under that statute. No one seems to 623 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 14: be questioning seriously that he had the power to do that. 624 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 14: It wasn't really a focus of the argument. The question 625 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 14: is really having invoked that emergency, is tariff something he 626 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 14: can do, and that's really the question. So I don't 627 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 14: see him losing on the ground that he didn't properly 628 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 14: invoke his powers under the statute. The issue will be 629 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 14: is tariff's one of those powers. 630 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: Bill. What's watson is the RNC. 631 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 14: That is the one regarding what does election day mean? 632 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 14: So there are laws can pass by Congress, one for 633 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 14: elections to the House, one for elections to the Senate, 634 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 14: and one for elections to the presidency which set election 635 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 14: day as I think it's the first Tuesday, the Tuesday 636 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 14: after the first Monday of November in given years, and 637 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 14: the question is what about mail in ballots that arrive 638 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 14: after that date? Will those be counted? And the government 639 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 14: and the Fifth Circuit are saying, no, election day is 640 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 14: election day. If you want your vote counted, you have 641 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 14: to have it in by election day. It's not a 642 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 14: rolling date because the laws specify a specific day that 643 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 14: is the election day. And of course this is hugely 644 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 14: important because Democrats have mastered the art of mail in 645 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 14: ballots and there were many cases, I believe in Pennsylvania 646 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 14: and elsewhere where they're counting ballots days after the election day, 647 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 14: and then you get into all sorts of crazy stuff 648 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 14: like that, you know, what if they arrive a week later, 649 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 14: what if they arrive two weeks later? And it just 650 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 14: creates a lot of suspicion. So that's the question. Does 651 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 14: election day actually mean election day? Or is it just 652 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 14: like a word we use. 653 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: Eric Holder whenever he speaks, he usually says something unbelievably terrible. 654 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: And he dropped this little doozy, which I'm sure you've 655 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: seen here he was. 656 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 17: It pains me to say this. I think the Supreme 657 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 17: Court is a broken institution and it's something that has 658 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 17: to be I think a part of the national conversation 659 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 17: in twenty six and in twenty eight, what are we 660 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 17: going to do about the Supreme Court? And I think 661 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 17: that we have to think about again talking about the 662 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 17: acquisition and the use of power. If there is a 663 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 17: democratic trifecta in twenty twenty eight, and I think the 664 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 17: possibility of that is pretty good. Supreme Court reform is 665 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 17: something that has to be considered term limits. I think 666 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 17: at a minimum, potentially expanding the court is something I 667 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 17: think that also should be should be considered. 668 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: Expanding the court. This is something Fdr Toyd with. This 669 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: is not exactly a new concept, but nobody's actually pulled 670 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: the trigger on it. Do you get the feeling someone's 671 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: going to. 672 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 14: I think the Democrats will try whether they can get 673 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 14: the votes to assuming they control the Presidency, assuming they 674 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 14: control the Senate and the House, and assuming they decide 675 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 14: to nuke the filibuster in the Senate so they only 676 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 14: need fifty one votes. I think they're going to try. 677 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 14: This has been a big issue for them, probably would 678 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 14: have happened already except for Cinema and I think it 679 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 14: was Fetterman wouldn't go along with it, or Mansion. A 680 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 14: couple of Democrats wouldn't go along with it, so it 681 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 14: never happened when Democrats had the you know, the trifector. 682 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 14: But I think they want to. They are so frustrated 683 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 14: that the Supreme Court is an impediment to their absolute power, 684 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 14: and I think they're going to try to nuke it. 685 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 14: I think they're going to try to expand the court 686 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 14: or do something because they're desperate. They are not getting 687 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 14: the rulings they want, and when they don't get the 688 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 14: rulings they want, they want to change the team. And 689 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 14: that's what they're going to do. So I think there's 690 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 14: a very real possibility if they get their trifecta that 691 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 14: they will try to either expand the Supreme Court or 692 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 14: do some other change that will allow them to grab power. 693 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: Bill, what's the story with these seventy people? Trump just 694 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: pardoned these alternate electors? Freak elector what's the story with 695 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: all this? 696 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 14: Yeah, so that's an issue which really hasn't made its 697 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 14: way to federal courts yet. But if you recall, it 698 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 14: seems to have faded a little bit into history that 699 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 14: there was an effort that, in the event, a challenge 700 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 14: to the election was successful, that Republicans wanted to have 701 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 14: alternative electors, not the electors selected who would be vote 702 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 14: for the Democrat, but electors who would vote for the 703 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 14: Republican And it would only come into play if, either 704 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 14: by a court verdict or by vote in the Congress, 705 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 14: the election were reversed. But you need electors to actually 706 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 14: fill those slots and vote, and so various people created 707 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 14: slates of alternative electors to have people essentially on the 708 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 14: bench ready to go if it was needed. Of course, 709 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 14: it was never needed, it was never used, and the 710 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 14: Democrats have accused them of some sort of fraud. Not 711 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 14: really sure what the legal theory is. The only viable 712 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 14: legal theory is if they found people forging documents, that's 713 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 14: a little different. But the whole concept that having alternative 714 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 14: slates in and of itself is a crime, I think 715 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 14: is not sustainable. I don't think that's a valid theory. 716 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 14: And so what Trump is doing is he's pardoned all 717 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 14: the people he could think of who were somehow involved 718 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 14: in that effort, either directly or indirectly from any federal prosecution. 719 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 14: And I think he wants to clean slate. He doesn't 720 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 14: want to leave these people at the mercy of the 721 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 14: next Democrat administration and people like Eric Holder who might 722 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 14: be back in power, who absolutely positively will go after 723 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 14: these people. So it's I think his way of cleaning 724 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 14: the plate at least as to federal charges. 725 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: Finally, give us an update on all these Komy, Bolton 726 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 1: Brennan cases. Obviously not asking for a breakdown of all 727 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: of them. But how are we looking on somebody going 728 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: to prison? Any forward movement there? 729 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 14: Well, I think probably the most likely candidate would be 730 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 14: John Bolton because he it's a much clearer case where 731 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 14: the others are, you know, Diruction lying under oath, those 732 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 14: are always a little bit fuzzy lying to Congress, and 733 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 14: there are issues as to the whether the US attorneys 734 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 14: who obtained the invitements were properly appointed by Trump, so 735 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 14: it gets a lot murkier. I would say Bolton is 736 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 14: probably the most one, most clearly at risk, and of course, 737 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 14: oddly enough, he's probably the one who did the least damage. 738 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 14: I mean Komy did the most damage. So I don't 739 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 14: know who's going to prison, but if anybody is, it 740 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 14: probably would be Bolton. 741 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: Bill. As always, thank you, sir, I appreciate it. We 742 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: have light in the mood. Next all right. It is 743 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: time to lighten the mood. And as we mentioned in 744 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: the opening, today is veteran stay. It's wonderful. It's something 745 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: we should focus on, which would be thanking the veterans 746 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: in our lives today, people who served. And I always 747 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: liked looking back and hearing things like this. My name 748 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: is Bill Pickerell. 749 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 18: I'm ninety eight years old. Don't call us the greatest generation. 750 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 18: I will never forget and witness the horror of the 751 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 18: Nazis war camps. In the Battle of the Bulch, my 752 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 18: friends and I fought to stop the Nazis' last major 753 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 18: portion in the Western Front, but not many of us 754 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 18: came home. I still miss a lot of my friends 755 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 18: on that beach, and we're there were many of us left. 756 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 18: There aren't many of us left today, but for us 757 00:43:53,560 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 18: those of us who are here, that America is still 758 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 18: fighting for America. People say, people is America is an idea, 759 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 18: but I believe America is much more than that. America. 760 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 18: America is our home, you know. And I was fighting 761 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 18: in Europe and I came back home. I kissed the ground, 762 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 18: thank God that I'm back home in my country and 763 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 18: where I come from. When somebody comes for me, for 764 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 18: my home. You're digging your boots in the ground and 765 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 18: never look back. And President Trump back in commander in chief. 766 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 18: I would go back to Marianlists today. 767 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 15: And I was stormed. 768 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 18: Whatever beach you want, my country wants you, needs to 769 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 18: meet you. God bless you. God bless her home in 770 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 18: the United States of America. 771 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: I sitable, m hmm.