WEBVTT - Gina Schock 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.400 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to the Bob Left Sets podcast. 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:15.520 My guest today is the drummer for the Gil Goes, 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.239 soon to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.720 of Fame, the one and only Gina Shocked. Gina, good 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.080 to have you here. Hey Rob, thank you my friend, 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.040 but you'll be on your show. You have this new 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.000 book Meet in the Hollywood. It's a picture book in 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.280 the story book. What motivated you to do that at 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.680 this time? Well, um, it's something that I've been wanting 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.760 to do for decades and I the thought of trying 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.360 to get all of those photographs and ephemera that I 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:47.159 have collected over the years was like overwhelming. So I 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.040 was looking for a person to help me do it. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.240 I finally found the right person to help me, this guy, 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.720 Steve in l A. He came up, I pulled out 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.840 all of my photographs, had him all in in my 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.279 living room floor. He walked and he said, Gina, this 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.160 is a credit. Sure, this is incredible. We got to 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.120 go right up. We're going to write up uh what 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.240 he called it, what he caught makeook. Yeah, Well we're 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.560 gonna do make a coffee table photo coffee table book anyway, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.120 So we we wrote wrote up a what do you 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.560 call why can't I think of that? Proposal? Proposal Jane, 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.679 there's christ my senior moment lasted for ten minutes. Okay, yes, 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.400 a proposal for a photo book. So we wrote one up. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.360 We set it to a couple of book publishers and 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.480 we right away we got back, you know, right away 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.560 that black Dog Hachette was interested and talked to them. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:36.520 They wanted to do the photo book. But then they 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:38.479 started talking to me about, Hey, we used to feel 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.120 like writing a little and I was That was of 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.479 course overwhelming to me. Once again, I'm not a writer. 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.240 I don't write books. But when we started putting all 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:52.240 these photographs together, it's, um, it became very easy to 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:56.760 write about what was happening that time. It was very fluid, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.200 very very easy because when I look at these photographs, 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:03.040 I remember everything that was going on, and you know 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.560 what I didn't remember, like maybe perhaps dates and where 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.800 I may have been. I keep a daily planner that 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:15.520 I've had. I've had daily planners since seventy nine, so 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.799 I referred back to them for dates and places, and 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.480 it was invaluable. I mean, I had everything written down 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.600 so I could refer to that, and I just and 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.040 then I have all the September I had, buttons and posters, 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.160 you know, you name it, I've got it. I just 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.880 all this stuff means something to me. I'm I'm a 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.680 very sentimental person. I like I keep cards and letters 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.400 and things from people that I love. And you know, 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.560 this is a part of my history and a part 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.680 of my life, and I wanted to keep it, you know. Um, 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:50.480 And so I have it all my possession. Finally found 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.320 the right person, help we put it together, and boom 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.640 it happened. Okay, can you make any money with a 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.440 coffee table? Book? Ers? Just a labor of love for 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.200 you and the fans. It is a labor of love. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.560 I don't I'm gonna want up spending more money than 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:09.480 I make on this whole this whole endeavor. Um, But 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.440 you know what this, I know it's a pichete, but 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.200 it really has been a labor of love. Uh. Going 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:21.880 through all of these photos, it just made me so grateful, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:27.040 so happy that that this has been my life and 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.639 I've captured it and the girls in the band with photographs, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.800 and now I can share these photographs with our fans. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.600 The general public. You get to see what I was 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:43.080 seeing a band member, someone in the band, you know. Um. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.560 And then when I started writing about this, I feel 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:50.240 like anybody that picks this book up and starts to 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.360 look at the photos and reads a little bit, it's 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.240 gonna want to read the whole thing because it's honest 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.600 and it's true. It's ask anybody. I'm a pretty upfront person, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.760 no bullshit with me, so and I write that way 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.440 and these are my words and these are my photos, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:10.280 and um, I'm really proud of agree with you. I mean, 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.600 and first I'm looking through the pictures, but you get 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.480 intrigued in the story. It's anything but a burden. You 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.880 cover the major points you could even want to know more. Now, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.200 let's talk about the ephemer and the photos. Bill Wyman 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:26.960 of the Stones famously kept one of everything. The irony 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.920 being all these years later he's not auctioning some of 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.719 that off. Was that your procedure? Did you tend to 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:38.640 keep one of everything? Um? It wasn't as though I 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.360 was grabbing one of everything. I was just grabbing whatever 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.680 was in reach within my reach. Um, I didn't necessarily 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.320 cover all everything that came out, but I do have buttons. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.360 I just and if I could grab one thing, I 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.680 grab as many as I can. Whatever. I just these 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.760 are all memories. I like looking at it. This stuff. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:05:00.160 It's it's it's my life, you know. And okay, the 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.480 Bill by the way, I had the Bill Wyman book, 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.840 which and it's really beautiful. Okay, if you could only 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:12.480 keep two pieces of memorabilia, they'd be what uh, they'd 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:17.400 be the poster that I have of when we play 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:23.279 with the Rolling Stones in Rockford, Illinois on October one one, 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:28.000 I believe. And it's a huge, big poster that I 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.880 had framed that I have it in my office. That 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.200 is worth a million bucks to me. You can put 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.640 that in the casket with me, you know. I love that. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.600 Um And you know what, I guess the other thing 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.000 would have to be my book because it's it's taken 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.520 me forty years to get this together. So it's all 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:52.640 right there. You know. It's funny because uh, at one 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.760 point a couple of years ago, I threw out all 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.360 my lamin It's it just became. I didn't want to 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.560 be one of those guys. But I've only the couple. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.560 One is all access to the Rolling Stones. That is 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.400 really cool. He got it. Yeah, of course it is. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.120 And you know what, I keep all my lambin It's stupid. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.960 I got a million of them, you know. And I 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.279 don't know if I can let go of all this stuff. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.680 I mean, I don't know there's I mean, I'm not 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.200 a hoarder. My house is not like a crazy space, 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.120 you know, where you have to figure out how to walk. Uh. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.840 In my home, I have everything in its place. I'm 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.760 a virgo. I'm very organized, and I don't know. These 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.200 things are just important to me and I and I 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.320 still have all the labments. I keep them from every 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.520 tour and from any other you know band that I've 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:39.800 ever going to see when they give you a v 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.280 I P P S. I have all that stuff. Okay, 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.560 you talked about going to l A. Where is all 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.640 this stuff? Is it in your house now? Is it 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.360 in storage? It's in my house. Where is your house? 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.480 I don't need the address, but the generally I live 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.240 in San Francisco, but I did live in l A 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.720 for twenty seven years, and uh, I moved to just 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.080 go in to us in five um and I bought 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.440 a nice little Victorian up here and I'm having a 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.200 nice life and I go to l A to work. Um, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:09.800 I do as much work as I can up here, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.800 but l A is sort of the home base for 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.000 the Go Goos, and when anything's going on, that's where 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.400 we all meet each other. We all meet up there, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.160 uh Like, for instance, we're gonna be meeting their uh 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.680 the beginning of December to start rehearsing for the for 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.400 the seven shows that we have at the end of 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.160 the year. So that's home base for the band. So 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.760 how did you decide to move to San Francisco and 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.960 after all those years in l A? Give me a 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.600 direct comparison to those two. Well, the thing is is, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.160 I I felt like I had lived there long enough 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.320 and I was starting to become like a recluse. It 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.160 was weird. I just I got tired of the whole 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.840 scene in the town. Um, and I wanted a place 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.960 where I could walk, where I could step out my 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.240 front door. You know. It was it was either gonna 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.080 be San Francisco to New York and San Francisco one out. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.200 Because the weather. I love the weather here in Sandarich 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.400 is because my favorite weather in the country. I love it. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.480 It's kind of like it feels like fall all the time, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.040 and that fall rolls in every night. Man, I love 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:12.480 the weather here. So um, this was an easy thing 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.680 to do, moving from l A up to San Francisco. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.560 And it's so close, you know. I mean I can 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.680 hop down the Standardist go you know, it's at our 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.000 flight or drive down, which I prefer to do. I 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.160 like driving. Okay, So now that you're in San Francisco, 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.720 are you a recluse or forgetting COVID? Leave that era 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.760 out and you've been in San Francisco for a while, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.560 are you the type of person who goes out? Are 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.360 you still end up staying home anyway? I do go out, 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.920 but I am kind of more of a homebody, to 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.400 be honest with you. Um, I love getting my place 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.719 the way that I want it. I'm comfortable, it's it's 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.320 by safe paven. I don't know if that's because I 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.679 spent so many years in the public, you know, And 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:57.520 I just I value my time. I'm honestly kind of private, um, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.840 and I appreciate the time that I can have to myself, 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.160 uh in a place that feels safe. So what do 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.280 you do in your house? What do I do? Oh? 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.320 I write to write a book, like you know, made 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.520 in Hollywood. That's what I worked on the last year 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.000 and a half. Um, I'm constantly doing something on you know, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.360 I'm constantly on the phone and doing a ton of emails. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.840 Every day. I get up, I walk my dog. I 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.439 do do that around the neighborhood. I have a lovely 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.360 The neighborhood I live in is fantastic and it's sort 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.000 of a neighborhood with all sort of a lot of 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:35.360 kids and dogs. And I'm up on a hill. Uh I. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.319 And if i'm if I'm not in the house, I'm 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.960 out walking around. When I'm in the house, I'm I 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.480 stay busy. I don't know. I cook. You know what 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.280 do you do when your your home? Your cook You 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.200 clean it up, You do your emails every day? You 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:53.040 know your friends stop buying, make dinner or yeah, okay. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:58.040 Do you have a significant other? Um? Well, yeah, I'd 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.160 say that I have a person in my life. He 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.920 is uh, He's become very important in my life. And 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.840 his name is Wendell. And he you know, I took 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:14.520 care of my parents when they were sick, and I 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.800 brought him here take care of him. I'm sorry a minute. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.240 Wendell took care of my father for the last three 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.560 years of its life. And he's a very important person 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.319 in my life because I watched what a real man 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:31.600 can do. You know, he was a wonderful god. He 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.160 is a wonderful guy. And I'm sorry, but we became 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.600 very close and I can't imagine not ever being in 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.680 my life. You know, we have a very deep connection. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.920 He's definitely my soul mate. I'm sorry. Now you talk 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.520 about your parents. I know it's a tough subject, but 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.400 your father's passed you you said when your parents, well, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.320 was your mother ill and she's still with us? Or 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.160 she going? Mom? My mom thought about three years ago 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.559 and they were like my rocke. You know. I I 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.640 had a very type connection with my parents. I mean, 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.080 I feel like I owe everything to them because they 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:11.160 gave me. They instilled in me, uh to be in 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:14.040 the mind that that that I could achieve anything, that 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.080 anything was possible if I put my mind to it. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.880 I was was willing to put the work into it 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.000 that it required. And so I feel like a lot 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.320 of just everything that I am and I've become. Um, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.560 I wanted to uh that that this was my way 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.720 of paying them back by trying to do something that 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.679 they would be proud of and you know, and I 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.120 feel like I succeeded in that and it it brought 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.240 me great joy to have them involved and bring them 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.720 into my life when I became a rock star, you know. Um, 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.400 it was wonderful to have them around. And you know, 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.600 sitting on the side of the stage at Madison Square 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.079 Gardener at the Hollywood Bowl, all these things were very 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.320 important to me. And I know that they were super proud, 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.240 you know, and I felt like I had to take 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.680 care of them. And they started getting sick, you know, 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.000 I had to step up, and so I moved them 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.520 from Baltimore, which is where I grew up for the 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.200 last six years of their lives, and I, uh took 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:12.920 care of them. Did they live with you in the 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.000 Victorian or do they have a separate places? Yeah, because 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.560 it's it's it's two it's two stories. And uh so 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.960 I had the downstairs uh fixed up for them, made 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.640 to make it safe. You know. I had the bathroom 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.160 redone and the floors, get rid of the carpets, all 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.520 that kind of stuff. Um. Yeah, so I had it. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.640 I had it fixed up for them, and and it 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.319 was great to be with them the last year of 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.600 their life and see them every single day. Um. And 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.960 I also, you know, had caregivers and where that's where 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.280 Wendell came into the picture because he was I don't 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:45.680 know what I would have done with that, this man. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.880 And how did you meet Wendell to have him involved 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.640 with your parents and another caregiver? You know. I mean, look, 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.520 I don't want to get into this big deal back caregivers, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.400 but it is the toughest thing. If anybody has to 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.920 take care of their parents or anything, you know, or 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.600 a loved one, it is very difficult to find a 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.319 good caregiver. You go through tons of them. Anybody will 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:08.480 tell you that. Um. And because I you know, it's 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.960 my parents, they gotta they gotta have the best, you know. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.160 And I was just watching all the time. If I 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.480 saw something I didn't like, to get rid of them. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:23.280 That's it they're at you know. Um. And Wendell, through 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.600 another caregiver, said oh I got somebody that can help, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.640 you know, because I did. It's a twenty four hour shift, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.400 so so you know, somebody for twelve hours and somebody 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.160 for another twelve hours. And Wendell came in that way, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.560 and he was like a star man. He was just 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.120 he and my dad had this connection. My mom had passed, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.160 but he had a connection with my father. They were 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:49.079 best friends. And uh, it's very important to me. Now 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.520 let's go back. You tell you san Francisco, your friends 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.320 might come over, you know, when somebody goes towards the 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.400 other end of the spectrum and age very hard to 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.040 make new friends. So who were these friends who you're 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.080 seeing in San Francisco? Did you know him previously or 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.560 you met him since you've been living there. I've had 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.760 a couple of friends up here, not not many, but 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.840 that I have made some friends. I you know, like 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.600 I said, I'm a little private, so I'm not like 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.440 out there trying to meet friends, trying to meet people 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.520 all the time. Um you know, you meet someone else 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.240 through a friend and and I have a small group 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.600 of friends up here that are that are really great 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.720 because honestly, Bob, all the majority of my friends are 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.640 all in l A. I lived there twenty seven years, Okay, 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.960 so you know that's sort of home base really besides 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:42.160 where I grew up my Baltimore. But um, yeah, I've 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.920 taken my time meeting people up here, and I feel 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.920 like it's some very quality friends here, not quantity quality, Bob. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.960 You know. Yeah, let's go back to Wendell. Your closest 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.560 one thing, which was surprising in the book is you 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.640 go into your c shoes and relationships, which a lot 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:08.200 of people tend not to. So what was it like 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:14.040 being a rock star, having crushes, having fans? What was 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.640 it like being a woman? We don't hear that too much. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.400 We hear the guys perspective. Yeah, well, it was just 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.360 like being a human being that has dropped into being 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.720 a rock star and you're and you're young, you're in 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.440 your early twenties, and you're having the time of your life, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.360 and you're making good money and you're playing in front 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.840 of thousands of people every night. I mean, it's a 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.440 dream come true. So you know, you have to figure 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.880 out what you want to partake in. And you know, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.960 thank god, I'm still here to tell the tale. But 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.880 of course I did a lot of stupid things that 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:52.200 I would never do in retrospect. But that's just par 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.120 for the course, I think. You know, Uh, it's it's 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.640 you're like on a wild ride and you're loving it, 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.560 and why not it does? It doesn't happen to everyone, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.280 you know, it's okay. But you know, let's be a 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.240 little specific. You You you talk about famous musicians, you 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.240 have crushes on, the people you have relationships on, you know, 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:16.080 the men they famously interact with women in different cities 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.920 before the cell phone camera, and you're certainly a star 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.320 before that where they have relationship with fans that might 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.360 be sexual only. What's it like from a woman's perspective, 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.720 It's the same. It's exactly the same, exactly the same. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.240 You might have casual sex with a fan in St. 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.640 Louis and that and then next night you're in Kansas City. 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.400 I have done that. I would admit to have have 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.960 done that. Not my proudest moment. Okay, let's go back 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.640 and taking here your parents. You know, the dollars can 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.040 add up. How are you doing financially? If you never 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.000 earned another dollar, could you make it to the end? 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.840 I think I could. Yeah. So the money or assets 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.000 you have, are you the person me manages that or 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:05.000 do you have somebody for How involved are you in that? Well? 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.359 To tell you the truth, I'm now starting to get 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.199 involved in everything. As I said I was, you know, 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.600 taking care of my parents would just consumed me. And 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:19.000 I'm starting to feel like now it's my time to 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.440 get myself back and you know, do what I'm doing 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:28.680 right now, um as they would want it. Um you know, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:30.840 I don't know. I feel like this is just my 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.520 time to sort of regain things that I might have 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:42.159 moments of time where that I couldn't be uh, that 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.520 I couldn't fully be in. And as far as the 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.240 money thing goes, I have people that I've been with 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.080 for years and years and they've handled my money and 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.160 my parents and my brother. You know, I feel pretty 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.840 comfortable with that set up. Yeah, I mean money, you know, Bob, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.560 I don't even like talking about it because money is 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.040 not important to me. I mean it is, but it's 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.639 like I've never done anything for money. I've done it 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.560 because I love to do it. I wrote this book 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.879 because I love doing this, because I love taking these photographs. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.280 It wasn't I don't, it's not what motivates me. I agree, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.440 But you know, we're reaching an age. You know, if 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.960 you're a performer, if you're physically able, you can work forever. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.560 But there I've unfortunately known some of my parents friends 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.800 in their eighties and nineties, they were out of money, 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.280 you know, and you can't get a job when you're 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.840 in your eighties or nineties. So I know a lot 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:34.879 of people who I know a lot of people who 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.960 are unprepared. That's why I asked that question, not that 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.480 you will Christ you know, Bob, I don't know how 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.040 long I would have lived, but I think right now 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:46.920 I'm okay. Um I. You know, it is a great 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.480 thing that that that the Gogs are still able to 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.600 play as much as we all want to. I myself 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.160 like to play a lot. The rest of the girls 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.240 don't feel that way, or some of the girls don't, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:03.280 but um, I mean this being in the go Gos 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.800 has allowed me a lifestyle that I only dreamed of. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:10.360 And you know it's I feel like I look at 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:11.960 all this stuff, when I look at this book, I 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.040 feel like I've been on this incredible journey that has 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.359 where I've met people that like I grew up. I 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.840 grew up loving David Bowie, idolizing him or idolizing the 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.800 Stones and and Charlie Watts. I get to meet these people, 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:29.680 you know, hang out with them. Uh. It's a big 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.440 deal for me because I've always always been about music. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.400 I love everything music, you know, every time I got 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:38.080 When I was a kid, I spent on buying instruments, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:43.439 or buying tickets to concerts, or buying UM albums, you know, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.800 and I loved I'd always spend extra money to get 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.879 the British imports because I really loved British music. Um. 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.840 You know, this has been like this magical journey and 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.200 I look at this and I can't believe that it's me, 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:59.040 Like because I'm the biggest fan I really am. Okay, 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.879 let's just go for one second. You talked about playing 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.639 in a perfect world, how often would you want to 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:09.399 play me? I could be on tour. I could be 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.840 on toward ten months of the year easily. And if 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.840 you're not on the road, do you play the drums? 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:19.840 Now that's that's not how long does it take you 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.240 get back in the groove? So what I'm gonna do 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:25.480 what I always do. However long we have set up 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.639 to the band rehearse to go on tour, I usually 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.160 go two weeks before that and just play on my own. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:38.879 I you know, I have our shows are taped, so 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.119 I'll just I'll put that, put my headphones on to 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.600 play along with the show. UM, so that I get 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.840 like at least a good hour and fifteen minutes of 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.080 straight playing UM. And that's what I'll start doing before 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:54.120 we do this this December show shows UM. And then 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.600 of course before before we do UM the Rock and 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.280 Roll Hall of Fame, I'll just probably take a couple 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:01.639 of days where I'll just sit down and go over 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.840 the three songs, just to get loose and limber and 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.080 remember how it feels, get that muscle memory going, you know. 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.720 Talk about going back to the other point about meeting 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.879 your heroes. Have occasionally gone somewhere with my girlfriends. Just 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.359 why are you talking to that guy said he was 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.639 the drummer. He was a bass player in this band. 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.760 You don't understand. And when I get it in my inbox, 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:34.199 same way. But one thing I've known is some of 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.760 these people are good when you meet them. Some of 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.320 them are not so good. Okay, some of the household names, 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:44.879 very sensitive people. You hang with them, they are not fun. 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.800 So what hey, I don't know many musicians like that, Bob. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:51.720