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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, what's up. My name is Orca Jane. I'm

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Speaker 1: here with Diamonds in the Rough. Our friend Teddy Millencamp

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Speaker 1: is away, but I have a fabulous co host here,

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Speaker 1: the wonderful Matt Laffrey.

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Speaker 2: Listen to be called fabulous by the Erica Jane. I

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Speaker 2: can't ask for anything more. The podcast can end right now, guys,

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Speaker 2: it's over.

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Speaker 1: No, it can't, No, it can't. Actually, we have lots

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Speaker 1: to talk about, and you have quite a stand up

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Speaker 1: career of your own, so I expect this to be

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Speaker 1: good and fun.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Erica. That's pressure, but I'm ready. I'm ready

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Speaker 2: to be funny real quick. We should explain maybe why

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Speaker 2: Teddy's not here, so guys, just so you know, Teddy

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Speaker 2: loves this podcast so much. She had an issue today

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Speaker 2: where she needed to go get an MRI because she

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Speaker 2: someone that has a wrong reaction to munotherapy, so every

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Speaker 2: time she gets it, it's attacking a different part of

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Speaker 2: her body. Before it's her thyroid. Now they think it's

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Speaker 2: something in her pelvic area. So that's why she's not here.

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Speaker 2: She wants to be here more than anything, but she

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Speaker 2: wanted the show to go on, so that's why I'm

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Speaker 2: here filling in for her. She's a fighter and she

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Speaker 2: sends her love to all of you. But that is

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Speaker 2: the update, and now Erica and I can disagree.

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Speaker 1: On things, and now we can all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I want to ask you since you are in

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Speaker 2: the world of the show. So we ended the first

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Speaker 2: episode where they kind of were going at Katie about

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Speaker 2: be continued now. Sometimes we go right back into the fight,

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Speaker 2: but on this they kind of just speed through the

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Speaker 2: meeting up separately. Why do you think we didn't get

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Speaker 2: the culmination of them with Katie showing the receipts.

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Speaker 1: I've been on the show like this for ten years.

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Speaker 1: I try not to overthink things like that, try not

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Speaker 1: interesting was that they got to hot Pot, and that's

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Speaker 1: into pairs. I mean, that's obviously for build and everyone

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Speaker 1: has their own experience with whatever happened. Before. But I

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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that they put Katie and Shannon

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Speaker 1: then before Shannon, you know, gets to hot pot and

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Speaker 1: there you have it. Okay, Emily, Tam Regina meet up

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Speaker 1: for a lymphatic drainage. By the way, this looked like

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Speaker 1: a really interesting massage. So if anybody from that place

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Speaker 1: wants to hit me up, please do. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: get drained myself. And at the same time, Shannon and

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Speaker 1: Katie meet at this bench that you're talking about and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna talk. Go ahead, babes.

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Speaker 2: So Shannon kind of gives Katie, I guess, like a

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Speaker 2: Housewives one oh one lesson here, right, Like she was

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Speaker 1: Yes, but you can't do that season two. You're supposed

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: But I will say Gretchen's blonde is fierce. That shit

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, since we brought up Gretchen's hair already,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't move for me. So I was like, why

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Speaker 1: No, there's no room to hide money in that hair

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Speaker 1: I did not like that. I know we're speaking out

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Speaker 2: Well they do, you feel like they needed to.

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Speaker 1: I don't know whose choice that was, but I would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll get into it when we get there, right,

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Speaker 2: But since we're on Gretchen real quick as well, I

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Speaker 1: And that's some hell of a preservation. Maybe she hasn't.

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Speaker 1: And Katie telling Shannon that she appreciates Shannon sticking up

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Speaker 1: that goes. So to say I don't like seeing somebody

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Speaker 1: getting we don't either. But that's kind of how this

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Speaker 2: Shannon knew what she was doing, of course she did.

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Speaker 1: She calls flat and I do.

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Speaker 2: I also want to say, for Emily, our friend Emily

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Speaker 1: That would be fine. I like Shane right, like, she

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Speaker 2: Well, well you get to that scene. I I have

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Speaker 1: Mean we've I did too experience shows like this is

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Speaker 1: And then I loved it when Gina was like and

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Speaker 2: Well, well you know how bringing people into the group

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Speaker 1: But still it makes you look bad because then they

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Speaker 2: Right right, You're like associated with them no.

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Speaker 1: Matter what, no matter whether you did or did not.

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Speaker 2: So but Tama drops the bomb on Gena and Emily

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Speaker 2: Right do you think that, I'm going to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Right now, if one of my castmates did that shit

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Speaker 1: Oh I was just you know, No, I just don't

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Speaker 1: like any of this behavior because it's really talking to bloggers.

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Speaker 1: You're recording your castmates for what.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that she just felt out of her

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Speaker 1: No, I feel like she has bad coaching. I feel

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Speaker 1: I've seen Hicks. I don't fucking know because I don't

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Speaker 1: try to outfox a producer, or out fox or castmates

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Speaker 1: or I got one up on you. Number one, producers

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Speaker 1: And number three, you're not doing what you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: We're here to entertain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are the FBI. I mean, well that's a different situation,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think that Tamar was smart in giving

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Speaker 2: A fox and takes it on the chin, man on

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Speaker 1: And moves it along. It's just you know, you guys

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Speaker 1: Hats right now. Bond Dutch had a little bit of

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Speaker 1: I'm not big on the trucker hat vibe.

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Speaker 2: No, and they always say something but that meanly listen.

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Speaker 1: But I also like people having an identity, so there

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Speaker 2: Hopefully there's not a fire during this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what else did you know? It's interesting because

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Speaker 1: How about this? How about we leave Emily, Luke and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a good old Tamra fest. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Right, Like it's just the very first thing you bring up,

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Speaker 2: And also, let's not forget the Tamra was let go

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Speaker 2: No, You're one hundred percent right, And people are probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk more about Gretchen and gentle minute. But

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm fifty four and I smack that ass.

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Speaker 1: Well, I also don't like the Hey, they all ganged

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Speaker 1: I fucking hate him. And I'll tell you why. This

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Speaker 2: And the same for the shady gays. Okay, we don't

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the shady gaze are good for

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Speaker 2: quick humor for the gays.

437
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: Getting these chicks together with their hair, makeup, glam and

438
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: their quick reads, these shows would be bland. And I

439
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 1: said it all right, So.

440
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: Erica, if you need me to come on Beverly Hosing

441
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: Drive Story, just let me know.

442
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: I shall. Do you want me to do? Immunlater want

443
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: me to slide into your DMS Matten to ask you

444
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: what should I do with this? Because God knows that

445
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: you know I mean, but it's true. I mean, listen,

446
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: we need gays. We don't need straight man. You guys

447
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: need to watch football and or wrestling or something else.

448
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: Just stay out of women's business. And I'm not in.

449
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: But gay men are welcome here because they have a

450
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: unique perspective and unique skill that y'all ain't got.

451
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: You know what we need straight men for on the show.

452
00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: There is one nothing, no money, no bills, backdrop, props set.

453
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: You know that's what we need from y'all.

454
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: No to sit silently while the housewife downloads on what

455
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: happens and the man can.

456
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: Pretend I remember being married and Tom just looking at

457
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: me like what the fuck? Like, I girl, shut up.

458
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to bother some man at home with.

459
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: And then she said, as if you didn't call from

460
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: the ride home, Like could you believe what this bitch

461
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: said about.

462
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: I called from the ride home the other day. That's

463
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: a whole other story. My gaze.

464
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: Put me on that group. You know what?

465
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: You know what? Actually, hold on a second. I should

466
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: have picked up the phone and called.

467
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. But while we're at Katie and Matt's were intercut

468
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: with Heather coming over to Tammer's house.

469
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: What's going on with the floor and why is that

470
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: being drilled up?

471
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 2: She said it was overflowed from a sink.

472
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: Oh that's right there. I guess it must have ruined

473
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: all the tile water damage? Eh?

474
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that as overflowing of a sink and

475
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 2: destroy just the whole kitchen?

476
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if it's sat, I don't know.

477
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

478
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: I rent, so I don't guess what I rent too.

479
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm a renter, he too?

480
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

481
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: You know?

482
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: Wow? Whoa we rent? Okay? But you know what I

483
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: did like about this was when Tama got into her

484
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: single white female about Jen and then and she pulled out.

485
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 1: She pulled up that old Instagram photo and she said

486
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: that her lips looked like hot dogs, and I just

487
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: thought that was like, look, we've all had a few

488
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: pokes and pricks and whatever. You know, Jen's sweet and cute,

489
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: but Tama was being Tamor and then she even had

490
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 1: her old extensions put in like Tamra went for her.

491
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: She read her down, well, like the used isn't that

492
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: like a help code violation?

493
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: Can't do that, like they just you can't use used

494
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: hair that came out of my hair and put it

495
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: on somebody else's hair, Like.

496
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: Who is this hair girl that took out TAM's extensions?

497
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: Like you know what, what is this?

498
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: What's that health cone violation? We're gonna have to send

499
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: the health and beauty people over there immediately. The workout

500
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: pictures as well, and then she called her heavy. But

501
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: you know it is Heather who I love, who really

502
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: is pulled back. She looked at gin shoes that Instagram

503
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: post and was like exactly, and what the hell I

504
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: saw her? Absolutely she was repulsed and I clocked it,

505
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, she's looking at the girl's shoes

506
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: and she's like Tammer's focused on the lips.

507
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 3: AND's gotten her look together and she's adorable. And then

508
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: they cut to the bikini thing where she's crushing it.

509
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 3: But my god, and that we all have bad pictures.

510
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I don't. God knows there enough of me,

511
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: But in that moment, just Heather's face was just repulfed

512
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: by ses the dsw vibes, and they were they were.

513
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: Like some cork I don't know what. They looked like

514
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: cork wedges but with a heel.

515
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 2: Oh, and they think they were like a nude.

516
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: Udel like you know, I don't even want to say,

517
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: but because oh my god, it was just.

518
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: A bad look. And they did that on purpose, and

519
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, it was like bad hair color. It was

520
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: before Jen got her look together. She's got her look together.

521
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: She looks great. She's adorable. We love to see it.

522
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: But that picture was, Yeah, we love a glow up.

523
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Everybody has a glow up. Everybody gets a glow up.

524
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: Timber brings up how Gretchen had reached.

525
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: Out to her daughter. I don't like that either, Yeah,

526
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: do you?

527
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: So we get into semantics later, which we can talk

528
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: about in.

529
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: This, don't we all scene, Right, what is this show

530
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: without Mantis?

531
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: But it just seems like Gretchen was perpetually living in

532
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: the comments her entire time off.

533
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: The show, which I don't like. Let it live on

534
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: the show.

535
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, do you think she has been trying

536
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: to get back on the show for a year? Is

537
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: that why she's in these comments? Like what?

538
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like how Camille will comment. And

539
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: no shade to Camille, but you know you do that

540
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: to you know, keep your keep your presence alive. I

541
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: wonder what this title. If I was sitting there as

542
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: I was taking my notes on this, I was like,

543
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: I should I hope they titled this fucking episode hot pot.

544
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't even I didn't even see what they

545
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: titled it.

546
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: Hard the first off, I've never been to a hot pot,

547
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: but I've heard all about it. But it doesn't look

548
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: like my vibe. All right, So the girls arrived for

549
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: Katie's hot pot lunch and tammer reintroduces herself to Gretchen

550
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: and immediately they get at it, and I'm just like.

551
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: Eh, well, first we have to do the Shannon and

552
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: Katie think first, because they we get to the word lets.

553
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 1: The bomb out that why do I like Gina so much?

554
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: It must be the vocal fry. I don't know.

555
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: I think it's just the jersey.

556
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: Is it for as long?

557
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: Wherever the folks she's from. I don't know. I just

558
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: think it's funny. Hi, Brad, I don't know. I love it.

559
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: I kind of like it.

560
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: Can you do the rest of this podcast in your

561
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: Gina impersonation? That's not even Cartman meets like family guys.

562
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: I know that that's what they say. I sound like,

563
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: is Cartman? Do they? Yes?

564
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

565
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Now yeah, now yeah now, And I'm like, okay, that's fine.

566
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: Wait I didn't know that, but now that's hilarious.

567
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was more Bart Simpson. Yeah, but

568
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: it's fine.

569
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: But in a flashback we get where Katie admits that

570
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 2: she did call the blogger with camera. Yeah, and it's

571
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: those kind of scenes for me as of you or

572
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, why in you? I would love for you

573
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: to give me a reasoning. Why is that? Did we

574
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: not get the actual scene there? Because I felt like

575
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: it was a vital information.

576
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: You mean, why did you only just get that one segment?

577
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: We just got the little bit of a flashback.

578
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's the only piece that worked, so that

579
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: you have to a lot of times, you have to

580
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: talk around everything in order to get one sentence that

581
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: explains what we've been doing for three hours. Okay, and

582
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. And I love a flashback

583
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: because it does remind the viewers, Hey, she really did

584
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: say this.

585
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: Well that was the first time she admitted it though, right,

586
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: But do you think it kind of gets brushed over

587
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: then that we don't really get the full effect of

588
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: like oh shit Katie was lying.

589
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: Well, uh, if you don't get the oh shit Katy

590
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: was lying from the statement, I don't know how I

591
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: can help you. Okay, do you see what I'm saying,

592
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: Like I don't really need much more than that my personality,

593
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: Like when I look at shit, I'm like, that's what

594
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: I was looking for the entire fucking time.

595
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

596
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: Now I know you are a liar.

597
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: Well and then she lies again.

598
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, which this is a problem for that cast, I mean,

599
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: those those women in that group, Like I feel as

600
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: if you know you're gonna for me. I know that,

601
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: and I think I speak for my cast, like you're

602
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: starting to put we would put Katie at arm's length,

603
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: like no, not talking to you about anything. Not It's

604
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna be real surface with you, well, very surface with you,

605
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: because there's a certain and people don't understand this, like

606
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: there's a certain level of trust amongst a group of

607
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: women when you film this show. Now, I don't know

608
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: how it's done in Orange County. I do know how

609
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: it's done in Beverly Hills. I know that the older

610
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: cast mates in Atlanta. You know, even though it looked

611
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: like they all hated each other and were ready to

612
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: kill each other, there were some of them that were

613
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: really close. You can't speak for New York. I know

614
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Derrenda's cool, and you know, and Delores and Melissa, like

615
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, I you just don't trust somebody like that.

616
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: But here's does that make sense?

617
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand it. I understand what you're saying, and

618
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: I get I think it's different because you're in it.

619
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: But watching it, it almost feels like because I feel

620
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: like we're going to a point where they're going to

621
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: ice Katie out right, and it feels like that gives

622
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: the cast almost too much power in reality show situation

623
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: where they're dictating who can film.

624
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: No, No, Katie shouldn't have done it. You can do

625
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: it once, you can't do it multiple times. Yeah, you

626
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: can make a mistake, you can snubble stumble, but you

627
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: cannot repeatedly do this. When you see this done as,

628
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: it's not about who can film, it's about that person

629
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: over there, I don't want to work with that. Not

630
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to work with that. That's not fair.

631
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: But like, I'm not revealing. Why would I be vulnerable

632
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: in front of that person? Why why would I say anything?

633
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: Why would I reveal anything that's you know, important to

634
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: me to her?

635
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: I get that?

636
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? You have to trust the women

637
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: that are in the circle with you, right, But in.

638
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: The world of housewives, isn't it part of the job.

639
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: We'll call it to almost use I get what Katie did.

640
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: So Katie recorded somebody without their knowledge, which is very shady,

641
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: and then she went to a blogger to talk shit

642
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 2: about Tamera. But haven't all housewives at some point, No,

643
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: not done something like that, but done something wrong towards

644
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: another member of the show, of the cast.

645
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: Of course we have. But you can't repeatedly do it

646
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: to every member of the cast and expect these women

647
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: to trust you. She's picked off every single one of them.

648
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just think you can't.

649
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: What she's doing is isolating herself. She's going to be

650
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: alone on an island with a bunch of what blogger

651
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: friends Woody and also like production doesn't like that shit,

652
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: don't be ratting.

653
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's a show to show it destroyed Jersey the

654
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: blogger situation.

655
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: You can't do that, Like, we're not that's not what

656
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: we're here for, right.

657
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: I hear you. I'm glad to get your perspective because

658
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: I feel like as viewers we see it as like

659
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: a not I'm not I don't like the word. I

660
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: don't one gang up or anything but us. It was

661
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: like on Vanderpump Rules almost where they didn't want to

662
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: film with Tom and it's like, well, you're on a

663
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: show together. You should be filming with the people on

664
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: the show, is what I'm trying to say, Like, yeah, you.

665
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: Should, but you should also trust the people that you're

666
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: filming with that that's what they're going to do is

667
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: film with you and not go another route and tell

668
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: the show gotcha. You see what I'm saying. Like if

669
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: I got on the phone and I said, you're never

670
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: going to believe what happened on Friday Night, which I could,

671
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: but I don't if I got on the phone and said, ooh,

672
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: you're never going to believe what happened on Friday night

673
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: with the new people. Is that cool?

674
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: No? But that's exactly what I would prefer you start

675
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: doing with me.

676
00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: I cannot do that contractually. I cannot do that. And

677
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: and it's just you put yourself in weird places like

678
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: it's not worth it. Just enjoy the show for what

679
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: it is, yeah, you know, and then you have your

680
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: chance to lay everybody out later.

681
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: So your girl, Gina Cartman reveals the information that Katie

682
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: recorded Shannon at the gallery shoot right yep, which was

683
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: told to her by Tama Judge. So do you was

684
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: Gina just doing her job there? Like? Do you think

685
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: she was all of it?

686
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: Gina brought Katie into the group, which gives her the

687
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: perfect reason to say this. Tamra did the right thing

688
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: by handing it off to Gina because it's a softer

689
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: delivery than Tarma. Doesn't look like the hammer all the time, right,

690
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: and maybe Gina, you know, look, nobody feels good in

691
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: this situation, so I don't really care about that. That's

692
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: pretty like kind of the way it is.

693
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what pissed me off is Shannon, I

694
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: need you to stay in the scene, like, oh, don't leave.

695
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: That bothered me, just didn't bother you. Yes, I didn't

696
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: like it either. I didn't like it either. I did

697
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: not like it either.

698
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: Why are you I don't even understand why you were allowed?

699
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: Like this is where I'm like production should have stepped

700
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: in and be like, can you at least have the

701
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: conversation of like, why why did you record me? What

702
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: were you was it?

703
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: What was the gain? What were you going to do

704
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: with that? Why would you do that? What made you

705
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: think that was okay?

706
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: Hey?

707
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: You knew I was in a lawsuit with these people,

708
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: like what are you doing?

709
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: And I think it was your girl who was like

710
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: I love.

711
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: The way you said I stick up for Gina once.

712
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: She's my fucking girl. Hey, Gina, just so you know,

713
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't stick up for anybody's a Shannon.

714
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: You laving shows growth? I'm like, no, it doesn't show growth.

715
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: It shows that she's afraid of being outed as someone

716
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: who's a lunatic off camera, is my opinion.

717
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Well, I also think that it's just not doing your job.

718
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: It's unique to be two things, a lunatic off camera,

719
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: on camera, all of it.

720
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 2: I mean, we know Shannon likes to run away from

721
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 2: multiple situations.

722
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: Well I'm tired of housewives running Shannon, everybody including my own.

723
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh have we had a run off this season?

724
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

725
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: Amy, But yeah, So Gretchen takes this as an opportunity

726
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: to say who told you that? And and Gin it's like,

727
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: well Tamara didn't in. Gretchen is of course uses it

728
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: to villainize Tamra.

729
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: And then they get into it. And I didn't need

730
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: that from you, Gretchen. I wanted to like you for

731
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: five minutes. I know why you're there, and you're going

732
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: to get your moment and you're gonna do a great job.

733
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: But just this one hot pot thing, like, let this

734
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: just be between the women that were actually there. Does

735
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah, just let it be between the

736
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: cast that was there.

737
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: Well, she just couldn't wait to get in Tamar's ass.

738
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: Right exactly, And you have all the time in the

739
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: world to get in her ass.

740
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: Can you do me a big favor? God to camera?

741
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Do you remember what Gretchen said when Tamara said she

742
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: reached out to her daughter and Gretchen said, she just

743
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: commented on a Facebook it's become a big meme on

744
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: the internet.

745
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Is it in my notes? What did she say?

746
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: She goes, it's not the same thing, and then they

747
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: stood on her face for like a good eighty five seconds.

748
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: No, I can't do other people's lines.

749
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: I think. I think you've already done a very good

750
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: Gina today.

751
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was because I wanted to do.

752
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: You think it's the same thing. No, so you don't,

753
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: So you disagree with Tamara. So Tamra says Gretchen reached

754
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: out to her daughter, and Gretchen says, I commented on

755
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: a Facebook post.

756
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you should. Yes, bottom line is reaching out. It

757
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: could be conceived. Yes, I can see why Tamara said,

758
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: you reached out to her. Don't need to be commenting

759
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: to kids and stuff like that.

760
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: No, it's weird behavior in my opinion, especially when they're

761
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: that I mean. But so then Gretchen brings up, which.

762
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: I'm tired of, the fifteen year old beef. I find

763
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: something new. I'm sorry, find something in the present day,

764
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: because you had to send me that whole thing as

765
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: to why these two fell out, And personally, I don't

766
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: really care because it's just too far along. Nobody in

767
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: the like the point of and I believe the point

768
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: of the show season after season, you fall out, you

769
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: make up, you fall out, you make up. You have

770
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: different friendships, different experiences, is because you stay in the moment.

771
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to see Gretchen enter with fifteen year

772
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: old beef. I don't care, right, I'm trying just to

773
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: get through yesterday.

774
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: Let me give you a little background though. So in

775
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, the People magazine article came out where

776
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: Slave's ex wife Michelle had revealed that he owed all

777
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: this money in back child support and he wasn't helping

778
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: with their sons, their son's medical.

779
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: Bills, right, which is look, that's a tragedy.

780
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: But we covered it. I will say, as a producer

781
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: on this podcast, Tama has not wanted, she doesn't even

782
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: want to bring Gretchen up, but it was a big headline,

783
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 2: so we covered it and she spoke her mind about

784
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: it and then donated to the GoFundMe. And that's what

785
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: Gretchen is bringing up on the show now, is saying

786
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: that Tama talks about him badly on the podcast, and

787
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: it's like she was covering a People Magazine story. Well

788
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: she does.

789
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that does fall in her job.

790
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: I do want to talk ask you. So Gretchen says

791
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: in her talking head that Tama doesn't know how to

792
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: have a real friendship.

793
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: We know, I don't know because I'm very not surface level,

794
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: but you know she's an acquaintance. I don't know Tamara

795
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: very well. I can't say that I know Teddy is

796
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: friends with Tamara.

797
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: Right, which I can say, I think since you know her, right,

798
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 2: I know Tamara. We have a group chat with Teddy.

799
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm very close friends with Teddy. I don't know if

800
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: people know this. We didn't really say it, but I've

801
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: also gotten to know Tamara very well working on the show.

802
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 2: Tama and Teddy have a real friendship, like I've seen.

803
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really do, right.

804
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 2: So I don't Gretchen. I think Gretchen is just she's

805
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: been so wanting to get back on this show and

806
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: she thinks her job is to just go after Tamara incessantly.

807
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: Well, she's back on the show, and she did her job,

808
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: which was immediately go after Tamra. And it's just I mean,

809
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: and we'll see where that goes.

810
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: Did she do the job?

811
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: Well?

812
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: Do you think.

813
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: I think she got her moments in. Do you.

814
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: I have my own reservations about Gretchen for other things

815
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: that I don't need to talk about on this podcast.

816
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: Okay, well then that can color your opinion.

817
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: There is one final thing I think we should discuss.

818
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: The hardboiled egg that wasn't a hard boiled egg.

819
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: Please Jesus, since he's been a part of this podcast,

820
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: can he please help us with embily sticking shit.

821
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think it's a it's a I'm going

822
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: to eat it on the way home.

823
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: What restaurant would serve a hard boiled egg with the

824
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: shell still on it?

825
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: Maybe a hometown buffet. I don't know, you know, I

826
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: thought I've never been to hot pot, so I thought

827
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: it was a hard boiled egg. I would have been

828
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: the dumb dumb that thought it was. I didn't know

829
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: you had to cook it?

830
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: Who you Have you ever tried to crack a hardboiled

831
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: egg and peel it? It takes a good five minutes hues.

832
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some are easier than others. I just think

833
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: that I would have. I just I'm not going to

834
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: put a hard boiled egg or a real egg into

835
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: my purse for later on the drive home.

836
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: I just want to know how often you go to

837
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: hometown buffet.

838
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: I've never been to hometown buffet, but if I would go,

839
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: just I like a buffet.

840
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: Have you been to the Golden Corral?

841
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah?

842
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh.

843
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you there was a Golden Corral by

844
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: my house when I was little and Betty Donna. That

845
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: was like the names that they would call up to

846
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: come get your meals. Betty Donna, yep, I remember the

847
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: Golden Cral. I can't believe they're still around.

848
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: Wait to come get your meals.

849
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like what they would do to the

850
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: server to come get there. The thing clearly we went

851
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: to the Golden Corral after church.

852
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: Oh, we went to Applebee's.

853
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: I like an apple Bee's. I like an Applebee's with

854
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: those loaded desserts or whatever.

855
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: Oh they have the well now I'm thinking of bjsabazuki.

856
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: I mean, guys, I'm so glad that we could end

857
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: this talking about all of the foods that we would

858
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: be eating.

859
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Instead of hot pot, I'm gonna tell you, we

860
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: could have gone to the cracker Barrel.

861
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: Oh don't get me.

862
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: Chicken fried steak going well, I enjoyed this episode, and yeah,

863
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I what my great takeaway is? You know,

864
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: I need to see Heather do brow more. Gina was cute.

865
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: Gretchen's hair is blonde. She came in to do what

866
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: she needed to do. Tamera, they're giving you the show.

867
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't care what anybody says. Emily,

868
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry for Luke and you're in Shane's journey

869
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it'll be all worked out. And sending

870
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: you all the best. Jen, glad you got the glow up.

871
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: You look adorable. Katie bad way to isolate yourself on

872
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: And hit up DSW for all of your cork.

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Speaker 1: My god, DSW hit us up, send us some dollars.

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Speaker 1: We might wear those cork shoes you never know. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening to teas in a pod with myself,

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Speaker 1: Erica Jane and filling in for miss Teddy Mellencaan.

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Speaker 2: Matt Lafferty.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, see you next time.