1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Between the Horns, presented by 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: your Southern California Toy, the Dealer's proud partner of the 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: La Rams. I'm JB. Long, wishing everyone the best of 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: health this holiday season. Let's bring in my radio broadcast partners, 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: to Marco Farr and Maurice Jones Drew. Well, here we 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: go again, guys. It's gonna be a wild week. And 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: as we gather on this Thursday morning, a lot of 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: uncertainty is still about the contest ahead on Sunday for 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. This day should be pretty telling and informative. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: First of all, how are you. Let's start with MJD. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: What's going on? How's your week? I'm doing well, JB. 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: A little cold here in the Bay Area, but you know, 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: doing wonderful. And to Marco, good, made it to school 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: on time and to work kind of on time, so 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm all right. You know, it's not even nine thirty 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: yet local time. We're doing just fine. We'll catch up. 17 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: We won't rush, but we'll catch up. Every Our task 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: is a bit difficult, right, because how do you preview 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: a game when there's so much undecided about who's going 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: to be available to play, especially on that top line. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: The good news is coming off of Monday Night's experience, 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: this all hands on deck approach has served the Rams 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: pretty well. Let me let me start with as generic 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: but applicable a question as I can, and that is, 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: in the instance where you're not able to practice or 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: not able to collectively get on the field the way 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: that you would like to, how do you rally up 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: and still be on your p's and ques on Sunday Maurice? 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Is there anything in your experience that compares? Yeah, I mean, 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: guys get hurt right late in my career in twenty eleven, 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: late in the season, I didn't practice at all. I 32 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: mean I think I might have did maybe half a 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Friday Saturday walkthrough at best. And it's all mental, right, 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: and so you have to I think the biggest thing 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: is and it's different now than when I was playing, 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: but a lot of guys have these homes. They have 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: cardio equipment there, especially because of the pandemic. So you 38 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: probably have something at your house you can use to 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: keep your wind up. But really, other than that, it's 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: all about being mentally tuned in and locked into what 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: your job is. And you have to simplify a lot 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: of things. Now will that help the Rams? I don't know, right, 43 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: but you want you guys to play fast, so it's 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: not going to be a lot of checks. You may 45 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: actually run the same a similar game plan that you 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: ran the last time you played them, or whatever it 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: might be, with a little like you know, different plays 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: in there. But you have to simplify everything because you 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: don't have time to practice it, right. You're just you're 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: really going to go out there off of what we 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: do in meetings and hopefully it works out. DeMarco, we 52 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: are chatting with less sneed on Monday's Coach McVeigh show. 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Short weeks so the GM filling in for the head coach. 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: And one thing that I took away from that chat 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: is that the rams two most recent wins tied directly 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: into their Thursday practice. Right. He said their work on 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: Thursday preceding those games in some ways dictated the outcome. Well, 58 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: it's Thursday, and I can imagine they're gonna be able 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: to have the practice that they have the last couple 60 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: of Thursdays. Yeah, it's gonna be disrupted. And this is 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: when you really have to be a pro and lean 62 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: on your veteran leadership because you're gonna be home for 63 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the most part and there's nothing you can do about it. 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: It's just COVID. So you have to take those mental reps. 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: You got to get off your feet when you're supposed to. 66 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: You can't depend on a coach telling you, hey, get 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: to bed, get you know, eat, don't go out at night, 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. So you have to keep 69 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: what's important in perspective even though you're not practicing. Easier 70 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: said than done. Imagine given a high school team the 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: week off before a game, you're not sure what you're 72 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna get. So these are pros, they're paid to play. 73 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: So you have to take those mental reps and be ready. 74 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: But it could actually work to your advantage. You know, 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: this is late December and Maurice said it, I mean 76 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: towards the end of the year right now. I mean 77 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: rest is more important than sometimes being on your feet 78 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: and repping, you know, the stuff you need to do, 79 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: especially when you're a veteran. So you could actually hit 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: Seattle with a bunch of fresh legs. Now you don't 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: know what the names are gonna be or who's gonna 82 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: be act, but they're gonna be working. They're gonna be 83 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: working in the weather. You have a chance to get 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: off your feet. So as long as everyone's on their 85 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: p's and q's, and they do the mental reps and 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: you're mentally in tune with the rest of your teammates, 87 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: you can get through this. It'll take you, you know, 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: a few series to get going on game day. As 89 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: long as you don't mess it up, turn the ball 90 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: over and give them a huge advantage, you can catch 91 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: up to them on game day. But yeah, it's gonna hurt, 92 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: but it's it's not the end all be all just 93 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: because you missed a week of practice due to COVID. 94 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: I hear that something that you probably only know in retrospect, right, Like, 95 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: it's not the worst thing that the Rams picked up 96 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: a division win while Tyler Higbee and Rob Havenstein and 97 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey got a week off in December. But again, 98 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: we won't know that until we get on the other 99 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: side of the current adversity. By the way, apropot nothing, 100 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: it looks like DeMarco's in the sauna today. Are you 101 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: at the spot to Marco? How come your glasses aren't 102 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: flogging up in there? Now I'm in the bat cave. 103 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: I guess man, it looks like it. I like it though, 104 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: coming out of the Dado, it's like the Ram last 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: week and on Monday night it is Fridgid in Los 106 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: ange So I thought you might have found a long spot. 107 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: So here's some things that I do think we can 108 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: discuss about the Rams. Given all the uncertainty right now, 109 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: a few things on my mind. One, what do you 110 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: take away from the wind in the Desert and where 111 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: does that rank among your favorite wins? Since let's say 112 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: the Rams came back to Los Angeles or Sean mcphav 113 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: was hired, Cooper Cup is not going to win MVP. 114 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. But what other awards 115 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: might he be in line for? Like could he be 116 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: the NFL's Offensive Player of the Year. And then we'll 117 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: take a quick look at the Seahawks. But let's start 118 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: at the top and reflect back on Monday. Maurice, is 119 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: there a major takeaway from that win, regardless of how 120 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: it plays out in terms of the NFC seating that 121 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: you think will serve the Rams? Well, well, JB, we've 122 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: had this conversation via text, right and I've told you 123 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: there are certain teams that if they're right, you don't 124 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: want to play, and the Rams are one of them. 125 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: And it felt like the Rams have gotten right after 126 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: that Jaguars win, right, they got they found their running game, 127 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: they found their play action passed, they found a way 128 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: to get guys the ball, and you saw that carry 129 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: over to the Cardinals even without a defense uh, some 130 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: of your defensive stars. Right, you saw your d line 131 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: take over the game against Jacksonville, as we saw against 132 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals as well. So to me, I think the 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: Rams are back where they're supposed to be, right, very 134 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: similar to when C. J. Anderson came in and all 135 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: of a sudden it was C. J. Anderson and Todd Gurley. 136 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: They were running the ball like crazy and they ran. 137 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: They ran their themselves into the Super Bowl. I think 138 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: the Rams are where they need to be. And so 139 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: for me to go into Arizona against the number one 140 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: seed in the NFC, the team with the best record 141 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and they beat them without your starting 142 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: right tackle, you're starting running back, you're starting corner and 143 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: a couple other pieces, or you're starting tight end. Six 144 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: hours before you play the game and you come out, 145 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: you play like that. That tells me the Rams are 146 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: very confident in their abilities and what they can do 147 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: and the things that we saw, the things that were 148 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: troubling us during that I asked that three game stretch, 149 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: they've kind of fixed them and now they're back ready 150 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: to roll. May have compromised one of your major opponents 151 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: to DeAndre Hopkins, sounds like he's gonna miss the rest 152 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: of the regular season. They hope to have him back 153 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 1: for the playoffs. To Marco, before we get to where 154 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: that ranks on your list of favorite Rams wins, what 155 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: do you think the carry forward is? As MJD just described, well, 156 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, just watching this was the theme coming out 157 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: of Monday night was the stars showed up. Your biggest 158 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: players that were on the field showed up and made 159 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: big plays. Aaron Donald taken over the game, Cooper Cup 160 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: absolutely going berserk. What I did notice was I saw 161 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: the confidence just ooze out of Arizona. Whatever confidence you 162 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: had in you know, in October from beating the Rams 163 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: and the way you beat them slowly started to ebb 164 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: and leave. Kyler Murray, like you said, was protecting himself. 165 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: That Cooper Cup touchdown in the end zone in the 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: corner of the end zone where he caught it about 167 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: an inch off the ground. Did you see the reaction 168 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: of all those Cardinal players. I mean, they were so 169 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: frustrated and just we can't keep up with these guys. Now, 170 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: that's how we usually notice Arizona playing against the Rams. 171 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: They went back from Okay, we have dominance over the 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Rams in one month. Now in December, we can't even 173 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: keep up with these guys. We can't stop them, We 174 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: can't stop their stars. So I saw one team gaining 175 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: confidence at the same time the other losing confidence. So 176 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: I agree with Maurice Man. When this team is right 177 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: from top to bottom, as especially as as top heavy 178 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: as they are on this roster, when that top that 179 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: front line group is playing well, they're as good as anybody. 180 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: So as long as that carries over. And that's the 181 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: thing that scares me the most because you might be 182 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: over using some guys at this point, but when those 183 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: top guys bring their a game, I don't care who 184 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: you are or where you're playing, you always have a 185 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: shot to win. I agree with Yeah, did you not 186 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: see number twenty when Cup caught that ball? Like he 187 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: was just like with almost truble? What do you want 188 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: me to do? I've got everything? What and that that 189 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: is when you have a team like that, when they 190 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: like he just put his head down. He was like, 191 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: look I've done I did all that you that coach 192 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: put me in position, and I still can't make the 193 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: play Like that is when you have someone and that's 194 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: when you put the league on notice. Right, that was 195 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: great coverage by I forget what corner and what I 196 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: think was Wilson coverage and everything. Just a better throwing, 197 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: a better catch. What can you do? And normally you 198 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: tell guys to have like water off a duck's back, right, 199 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: it just happens. That's just a play, don't worry about it. 200 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: But that happened multiple times throughout the game to where 201 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: the dude was like he was defeated, right, And so 202 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking Like, all of a sudden, you 203 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: talked about DeMarco, they're losing confidence, and guess what the 204 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: Rams are doing. They're just gaining more and more confidence. 205 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: And with Joe No Boom playing at right tackle, that's huge. 206 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: That to me is the way he performed. Now you 207 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: know that you have an extra guy that can go 208 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: out there and make plays. They have more depth than 209 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: what we thought. At the end of the day, there's 210 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: still a very realistic scenario where the Rams path through 211 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: the NFC playoffs goes through Glendale, Right, So just going 212 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: there and making that statement, I think is important putting 213 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: some doubt in the Cardinal's minds. I'm one hundred percent 214 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: on the same page as you to Marco that if 215 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: you can get Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup and Aaron 216 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Donald and Jalen Ramsey to the postseason in this state, 217 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: you got a chance against anyone anywhere. But then you 218 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: get the support of the back end of your fifty 219 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: three man roster, some practice squad guys contributing, maybe you 220 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: get cam Akers back in the mix. Like this is 221 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: a really potent group heading to the postseason. Now they 222 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: just have to finish out this next month and see 223 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: what the playoff seating looks like. Speaking of text message 224 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: conversations to Mark, but you and I were going back 225 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: and forth a little bit about regardless of what happens 226 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: from this point forward, that was a special win, like 227 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: that was one for the scrapbook. That was one that 228 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: we'll be talking about for many years to come. And 229 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: the question was was it the greatest Rams win since 230 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: they came back to Los Angeles, or where does it 231 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: rank on your shortlist? Any clarity for you in that regard, Well, 232 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: the one that keeps coming up is Greggs Airline in 233 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: New Orleans. You kicked the team into the Super Bowl. 234 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: That was huge, kind of tarnished because of the no call. 235 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: Right That's all anyone was talking about leaving New Orleans 236 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: was that no call. The Saints felt like they got 237 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: kind of you know, posed there, but no, I mean 238 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I reckoned my brain Monday Night going back versus Kansas 239 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: City here in the Coliseum. That was huge. And the 240 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: way it happened, you were scheduled in Mexico, you had 241 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: to reschedule. Everything was done on the fly and it 242 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: was a back and forth affair. But I went back 243 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: and looked at the record. Wasn't the team nine and 244 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: one at the time? So that was when number ten. 245 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: You know, that's a little different. This is the team 246 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,479 Speaker 1: coming off a three game losing streak. Now you beat Jacksonville, 247 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: which no one gave you credit for, and then you're 248 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: shorthanded going to Arizona facing the hottest team in the league, 249 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: the Monday Night Crew. All those guys were right in 250 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: the obituary for the Rams before the game, and then 251 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: lo and behold, you got in front, you stayed in front, 252 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: and you played like the better team shorthanded. I can't 253 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: think of a better victory. I can't think of a 254 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: better coaching job that Sean McVeigh has done this year. 255 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Then to rally his troops, get guys going, like you said, 256 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: when you don't have some of your best players, your 257 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,599 Speaker 1: cornerstone guys, and you still make plays to beat Arizona 258 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: in their house, I can't think of a bigger win. Well, 259 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: in some ways, the player and coach reaction tells you 260 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: everything you need to know. Right if you're watching body 261 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: language for those four quarters and then the postgame celebration, 262 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: that should indicate everything we need to know about how 263 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: much they valued and cherished that victory. Maurice, how about 264 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: for you? Where does that rank as number two? For me? 265 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: I will I've never been to a Super Bowl as 266 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: a player, but I'd have as a broadcaster, and that 267 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: will always be number one. Going to New Orleans and winning, 268 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: regardless of the no call and all that that kick 269 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: I remember almost shedding a tier. I didn't shed a 270 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: tier on Monday night, so that always be number one. 271 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: But I think you guys are exactly right. The short notice, 272 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: the short handedness everyone was concerned about, I mean our 273 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: call right there. We all had our issues with how 274 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: are you gonna do this? And how we're gonna do that? 275 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do We're trying to figure out 276 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: the game plan as well. Forty five minutes before we 277 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: get to the stadium, what ninety minutes before the game 278 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: starts whatever it might have been, so um, everyone everyone 279 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: had their doubts. But you know, to see those guys 280 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: step up and play well, that was huge and that 281 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: may be the thing that springboards him into being that 282 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: team that we talk about. I mean the plays that 283 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: we're showing here too for our fans, like that play 284 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: to Odell Beckham Junior. That was unbelievable. Right, normally you've 285 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: seen them run the screen off that you know when 286 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: we see them running fade off that now they come 287 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: back with a slant like I mean it, just the 288 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: way they put this this drive, that those drives together 289 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: when they needed them was huge, and uh, I'm excited 290 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: to see kind of where it takes them. Alice, I 291 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: like to drive home better than the drive in right 292 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: to your plan, better time leaving State Farm Stadium than 293 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: the mood we were in on the way there. All right, 294 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: let's get on to Cooper Cup and h he's a 295 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: trouble Crown candidate, right, it's something really unique that he's into. 296 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: He's having a record setting year. We're talking about things 297 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: that have never happened in NFL history. Is he going 298 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: to be an MVP? I think we've seen enough in 299 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: recent years to know that that's a quarterback award and 300 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: there's not anything that even another offensive player, much less 301 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: a defensive player, can do to be included in that conversation. 302 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: Like if Aaron Donald's you know, two seventeen eighteen seasons 303 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: weren't enough, then probably not enough for Cooper Cup. But 304 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: how about NFL Offensive Player of the Year more race? 305 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: Is there a case to be made? And would that 306 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: be a worthy consolation prize for the Cup? The season 307 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: that Cup has had? Oh no, I think it. First 308 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: of all, MB, You're right, MVP is a QB award, 309 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: no matter how good of a season you have, no 310 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: matter what happens, they're gonna get that to the quarter 311 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,119 Speaker 1: gonna be QB. We should just just change the acronym, 312 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: no question. But I think what Cooper Cup has done, 313 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this in person. I was there. 314 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: I've watched Calvin Johnson when he had his two thousand 315 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: yard season from AFAR, But to see the way Cooper 316 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: Cup goes about it the way he does, you know 317 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: the thing. He doesn't only just catch the ball, he blocks, 318 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: He lead blocks in the running game. He's returned us, 319 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: He's done everything. And so to me this the only 320 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: person I could probably think that may contend with him 321 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: is Jonathan Taylor from the Colts, depending on his rundown 322 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: down the stretch here. But what Cooper Cup has done 323 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: been a triple Crown winner, seeing double coverage, being covered 324 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: by the number one guy week in week out, still 325 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: making plays, still finding ways to get open, making crucial 326 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: catches as he did to get a crucial catches he 327 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: did against the Arizona Cardinals where the guys on his 328 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: back and he still catches it over his shoulder like this, 329 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Like he's just been a big time playmaker and now 330 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: it definitely Offensive Player of the Year for sure should 331 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: go to him, if not Jonathan Taylor DeMarco. What I 332 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: love about where they're at with Cooper Cup. Two is 333 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: now that OBJ is in the mix and getting better 334 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: each week and more integrated with the game plan. Maybe 335 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: with their running game identity ironed out Van Jefferson, you know, 336 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: going for three explosive touchdowns, like they're not as locked 337 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: in and reliant on Cooper Cup. They can pick their 338 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: moments like was it Jacksonville where he didn't have a 339 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: catch in the first quarter and then all of a 340 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: sudden he just goes off, Like they can pick their 341 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: moments with Cooper Cup. And I think Matthew Stafford has 342 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: grown a lot in that regard. Oh you know, you 343 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: go back to you Coop to Cup Woods and um, 344 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: what was a little receiver this in Texans? That's uh 345 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: in Houston right now, Brandon Cooks. I mean that that 346 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: trio was great, and then you go to you know, Woods, 347 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: Cup and Van Jefferson or whoever. The one constant in 348 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: all this has been Cooper Cup. So I mean, look, 349 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm with Maurice, it's between those two guys for for 350 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: offensive MVP. But then if I had a vote, I 351 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: would say, look, Cooper Cup weighs in to the run 352 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: game as much as he does the passing game because uh, 353 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: not just his blocking, even those short passes that he takes, 354 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: those are basically extensions of your game. He's controlling the 355 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 1: football game from that position. So yeah, I mean, I 356 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: hope he gets the looks and the respect that he 357 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: deserves league wide because he is tremendous and I like 358 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: the way Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford use him from 359 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty. I mean, he's an absolute threat. If 360 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: you go single coverage, he kills you with those out routes. 361 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: If he go zone, he knows exactly where to sit 362 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: and he doesn't fool the quarterback. He presents a big 363 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: target and he's a catching, go guy. So, like you 364 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: mentioned with Odell Beckham Junior, kind of coming into his 365 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: own and making defenses respect his speed and his explosiveness. 366 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: And Van Jefferson is a guy that you can't sleep 367 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: on because you just saw it in Arizona. He can 368 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: get by you and he's got a quarterback that can 369 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: get you the football. So it's really pick your poison, 370 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: and when you're running the football behind that and you're 371 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: running for power with Sony Michelle, the defense has to 372 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: cover all fifty three plus one hundred. That's tough to do. 373 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: That's you can't cover all that with just one call. 374 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: You need guys to be special. And we talked about 375 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: it at the beginning of the show. When Cooper Cup 376 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: starts to heat up, no matter what you call, even 377 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: if you're in good position and it's a so so throw, 378 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: he can still make something happen. So it's equally as frustrating. 379 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I mean, Cooper Cup to me is 380 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: the thing that makes this go. So if he wins, 381 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: or if Matthew Stafford is your MVP or a quarterback 382 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: is your MVP, then this is your offensive Player of 383 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: the year because no one means more to their offensive 384 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: success than Cooper Cup. Hey, I just thought of a 385 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: follow up to that. And as we get into the 386 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: final month of the season, this first year of seventeen games, 387 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of counting records at stake, right, touchdowns, yards, completions, receptions, 388 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: all those sorts of things. How do you guys feel 389 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: about franchise and NFL records being at stake with an 390 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: extra game? And what I mean is, if you're closing 391 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: in on Isaac Bruce or Calvin Johnson or Kurt Warrener, 392 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: for instance, do we close the book or should we 393 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: close the book at Baltimore? Or does that week seventeen 394 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: against San Francisco factor in you guys, like, how will 395 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: you treat a seventeen game counting SAT record versus a 396 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: sixth one? I'll say this JB record is a record. 397 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: A record is a record, right, And I'm gonna I 398 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: remember was it O. J. Simpson who rush for two 399 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: thousand yards in a fourteen game season? And it was like, 400 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, like that stills unbelievable. But soon as 401 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: the league went to sixteen, it like you just gotta 402 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: go with it, like it happens. You have to get 403 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: over it eventually. But the first year I'm less like 404 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: a little bit sensitive to being like, oh and there 405 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: he goes Kurt Warner's record, and down goes Isaac Bruce 406 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: when hey, the denominators are linked to be broken. Well, well, 407 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: it depends on what records. See from my perspective, if 408 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: you get twenty three sacks and you break stray Hand's record, 409 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: but it's in seventeen games, I'm not sure if that counts. 410 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: Gave you the last one? Anyone who breaks that record anyhow, 411 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: it counts because we know how he got it in 412 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: the first place, right, Okay, fair enough, But I mean 413 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: if it takes you an extra week to get the record, 414 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: then I don't know, you know, I might have to 415 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: put that little dot at the end of your name. 416 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: But it's kind of the same feeling I had when 417 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald became the Rams like franchise sack leader, right 418 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: like deserving. You couldn't have a better representative a top 419 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: your books. But in the back of our mind, we 420 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: know the fears enforce and didn't get to play that game, 421 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: right and true, and you know, and some of these 422 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: record holders, I'm sure they were on pretty good teams. 423 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: I have to look and make sure. Some of these 424 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: guys were probably off the last week of the season anyway, 425 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: getting ready for the playoffs. Maybe, so some of these 426 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: you can go back and forth, back and forth. But 427 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: if if it takes you that extra game to break 428 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: the record, then I might have to look at you 429 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: a little sideways. Marco. If the records broken, right, no doubt, 430 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: no doubt, unless it's yours. And listen, no, no, listen, 431 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: I just had my record broken in high school for 432 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: I think touchdowns and they played like two more games 433 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: and we played. I was like, dude, it's broken all right. 434 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: The Seahawk p real quickly. They are strangely at once 435 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: like on the verge of elimination but also very much 436 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: in the wild card picture because of the bubble being 437 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: so soft and undecided as it is. Oh when I 438 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: think they're very much in the hunt a loss and 439 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: they're probably cooked. Are you believing in this little two 440 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: game Russell Wilson resurgence for the Seahawks more rese Let's 441 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: start with you, um, I think very similar with what 442 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: the Rams did with the Jaguars. It gave him confidence. 443 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: I think you see Russell throwing the ball much better. 444 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: Still not getting the ball to DK Metcalf the way 445 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: he's supposed to do, but that Tyler Lockett connection is huge, 446 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: right and again, regardless of who you play or when 447 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: you play him, or how you play him, or as 448 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: long as you win, it breeds confidence. So I'm a 449 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: little nervous, to be honest with you. I'm a little 450 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: nervous because Russell Wilson, we know he has that magic 451 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: to him, and he was running around like he was 452 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson against the Houston Texans and throwing the ball 453 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: down the field and Tyler Lockett for some reason still 454 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: out running people Like we still don't believe Tyrel Locket's 455 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: a deep threat. And it's just like if they get 456 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: that going offensively, They're defense feeds off that, right, And 457 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be important this game to kind of 458 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: hone in on Russell Wilson, make sure he doesn't get 459 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: out of the pocket, and then offensively score when you 460 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: have to. When you get a chance to, you gotta 461 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: score a touchdowns to get those guys down quickly. DeMarco, 462 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: there's all these reports about, you know, Russell Wilson and 463 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: his no trade clause and what next season might hold 464 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: and whether or not we'll see the Pete Carroll Russell 465 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Wilson partnership again against the Rams. Beyond this Sunday, Where 466 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: do you come down on that? And how would you 467 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: feel if the Rams help bring it to a close. Wow, 468 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: I look, if it comes down to coach or quarterback, 469 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: always pick the quarterback, especially if it's Russell Wilson. So 470 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I love Pete Carroll, but from 471 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: a Rams perspective, I hope Pete Carroll gets fired because 472 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: that sets them back a little bit. It kind of 473 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: puts them in the review. But look, if anybody can 474 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: coach his way out of this and keep a job, 475 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: it's Pete Carroll and legitimately, look, I'll say this, let 476 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: me say this loud and clear. The Seahawks can beat 477 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: you this weekend. They're good enough, and they have been. 478 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: I'll say that for this reason only. They beat San 479 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Francisco two weeks ago. The Rams weren't even close, and 480 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: the Seahawks just handled them and beat them and had 481 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: a seven point lead and made it stand up for 482 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: four quarters, made big plays towards the end to get 483 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Garoppolo out of there. So they dovetailed off that and 484 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: they beat a down Houston squad. We know about that, 485 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: but they are good enough to beat the Rams, and 486 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: that defense is playing well enough to kind of give 487 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: you problems. But there's plays to be made. If you 488 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: play your best game, if you don't turn it over, 489 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: if you give yourself a chance going into the fourth, 490 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: I believe you can beat it. But if you mess 491 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: around and give them hope, give them confidence, Seattle, Russell 492 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: Wilson and Pete Carroll will dial it up. And remember 493 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: they are practicing to beat you. You're still at home. 494 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: They're gonna have some advantages early. They're preparing to beat you, 495 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: and they're capable of it. So they can take this 496 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: two game winning streak to three games and save Pete 497 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: Carroll's job. At the same time, DeMarco trying to one 498 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: up you. I'm just I know what you mean. They 499 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: can beat the Rams at full strength, and as of 500 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Thursday morning we speak right now, we don't know what 501 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: version or what portion of the Rams are going to 502 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: be at Sofi Stadium on Sunday, m jd Any final thought. 503 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: A lot of adversity through the last couple of weeks 504 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: for the Rams, but I think this this these these 505 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: COVID situations and the injuries and all the things they've 506 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: dealt with. So I'm gonna make them stronger if you 507 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: keep finding a way to win when you get to 508 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs, that's all it matters. Yeah, all right, Our 509 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: thanks to both of you and to our audience for 510 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: tuning in this week to Between the Horns presented by 511 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: your Southern California Toy Dealer's proud partner of the La Rams. 512 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: Stay safe, stay healthy everyone. For those who can join us, 513 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: in Inglewood on Sunday at Sofi Stadium. Looking forward to 514 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: seeing you there for a division showdown between the Seahawks 515 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: and the Rams.