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<v Speaker 1>Mr garbutsch Off, tear down this wall. Either you're with

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<v Speaker 1>My friends and I stared down the barrel of an

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<v Speaker 1>Air fifteen the way you have not. We have seen

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<v Speaker 1>this weapon of war mow down people we know and

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<v Speaker 1>love the way you have not. How dare you tell

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<v Speaker 1>us we don't know what we're talking about. Never again

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<v Speaker 1>should a student be silent, fight unshot. Never again should

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<v Speaker 1>anyone fear going to school. The time for change wasn't now.

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<v Speaker 1>The time for change was years ago. Are you for

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<v Speaker 1>taking steps to save us? Or are you for taking

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<v Speaker 1>n r A blood money? We are not letting the

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<v Speaker 1>United States be run by that terrorist organization. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sex and Show. Everybody you just heard of. There

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<v Speaker 1>a number of students getting together, Uh, students, teachers, coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>counselors getting together at schools across the country from what

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, but particularly those who were involved directly in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida speaking out there. There's now a broader movement to

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<v Speaker 1>involve other schools. There's talk about a a walkout, UM

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<v Speaker 1>that may maybe occurring. This is from this is expected

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<v Speaker 1>to be occurring perhaps later on. UM. You have students

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<v Speaker 1>that are gathering together saying that it's time to change

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<v Speaker 1>our gun laws. Will you address this a bit yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's something going on here, It's not normal to

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<v Speaker 1>expect that there would be so much vitriol. Let's understand this.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. You have students that are traumatized. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking now about those who are actually at the

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<v Speaker 1>high school in Parkland when this mash shooting happen. And

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that there's psychological trauma to be dealt with,

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<v Speaker 1>that the community needs to come together, that these students

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<v Speaker 1>deserve our support. I think I hear that there's also

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<v Speaker 1>similar efforts to get students activated in their political activism

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. It makes me think, Okay, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is now turning into a movement, or they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>turn it into a movement. M hmm. What is so

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<v Speaker 1>different about this time and this incident from others? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>asking the questions I don't necessarily have the answers. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it about this incident specifically that makes the students

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<v Speaker 1>that are speaking up and and being given considerable air

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<v Speaker 1>time by the national news media. What is it that

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<v Speaker 1>makes them so angry, specifically towards the n r A.

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<v Speaker 1>The n r A is the focus of so much

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<v Speaker 1>of the anger here, the National Rifle Association. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being a high school student and I would not have

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<v Speaker 1>pretended to know much at all about the n r

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<v Speaker 1>A or what it does. Um. We're also seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>very clear effort in the media to create an in

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerability for the speech of students that were either at

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<v Speaker 1>that school or just now. Any student who comes forward

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<v Speaker 1>and wants to speak on behalf of those students, he's

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<v Speaker 1>also going to be given this the same invulnerability for

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<v Speaker 1>their comments and statements. It doesn't have to be accurate,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be true, doesn't have to make sense

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<v Speaker 1>because it comes from a place of victimhood, because they've

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<v Speaker 1>been victimized because a group of students were murdered in

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<v Speaker 1>cold blood by a psychopath. And I haven't really heard

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<v Speaker 1>enough of that word used, and I think I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to return later in the show into why I use

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<v Speaker 1>it and what some of the real implications are for

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<v Speaker 1>our understanding of this mass slaughter. When we use terms

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<v Speaker 1>like psychopaths, we should also use terms like evil and

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<v Speaker 1>understand how it applies in this case. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>in a general sense. I mean in as scientific a

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<v Speaker 1>way as possible, evil as a term used by the

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<v Speaker 1>those who spend their lives trying to understand the psychological

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<v Speaker 1>processes of the brain, can't come up with a coherent

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<v Speaker 1>or rational explanation for why an individual acts the way

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<v Speaker 1>he or she does, and is left with nothing more

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<v Speaker 1>on a clinical level. Then the diagnosis a diagnosis of

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<v Speaker 1>evil that I think is far and away the most

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<v Speaker 1>accurate description of Nicholas Cruz and what occurred on that day,

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<v Speaker 1>And I can return to more specificity on that in

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. But the the I or the fury of

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<v Speaker 1>these students is directed towards the National Rifle Association as

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<v Speaker 1>the bad guy here. The National Rifle Association that the

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<v Speaker 1>students are young, that they can't vote, that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a background, or even a baseline. For get about

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<v Speaker 1>a background, No one to expect you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a PhD and gun studies to have an opinion here.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is usually a necessity and a national level

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<v Speaker 1>policy discussion to have a baseline of knowledge about the issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Right if I were running around and I were sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and I said that I wanted us to

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<v Speaker 1>have a much lower tax rate, and somebody asked me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what the top tax rate is right now?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I have no idea. People would be

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<v Speaker 1>less likely to take my policy proposal seriously in this

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<v Speaker 1>instant instance, though, because they have suffered a tragedy, or

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<v Speaker 1>because a community a school has suffered a tragedy, we

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<v Speaker 1>are to listen without responding. And that's actually not how

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<v Speaker 1>policy discussion works. It's not how the First Amendment worked,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not how we could arrive at any constructive solutions

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<v Speaker 1>to this problem. Nobody really wants to be lectured by

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<v Speaker 1>a group of kids that seem very angry at an

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<v Speaker 1>organization that has nothing to do with what just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not the fault of the n r A.

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<v Speaker 1>I would note that if you're going to blame the

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<v Speaker 1>n r A, you might as well blame the manufacture

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<v Speaker 1>of the rifle and claim that they are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for this. The seller of the gun, even though

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<v Speaker 1>he did it completely legally, he must be responsible for this.

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<v Speaker 1>The person that manufactured the rounds, use the actual ammunition,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're responsible for this. No, no no, no, no. You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot erode moral culpability here in the name of some

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<v Speaker 1>political agenda. The only person responsible for the heinous acts

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida last week is Nicholas Cruz. There are people

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<v Speaker 1>who could have done more to stop it. There is

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<v Speaker 1>certainly a discussion that we are having now about what

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<v Speaker 1>should have been done to stop it. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a lot of reasonable, good faith discussion in the

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<v Speaker 1>national media about what should result from this in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of law changes to law. Now, what I'm seeing is

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<v Speaker 1>the vilification of an organization that just represents law abiding

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<v Speaker 1>gun owners, of whom there are, as you know, tens

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<v Speaker 1>of millions, let's say, roughly sixty million in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty fair estament. Over three d million firearms

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<v Speaker 1>in private hands in the United States is also the estimate,

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<v Speaker 1>you got sixty million people, You've got a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>terrible school shootings. It seems to me like we're now

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to just sit back and allow the left because

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<v Speaker 1>we know that there is a hand behind this. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that the media is part of this construct and

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<v Speaker 1>part of this narrative that asked dispersions to cast blamee

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<v Speaker 1>on sixty million long binding gun owners here and much

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<v Speaker 1>of the intelligentsias such as it is, and the left

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<v Speaker 1>is coming out with the same stuff they've said in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. It was wrong then, it's wrong now. But

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<v Speaker 1>they think that by emotionalizing the moment, by making this

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<v Speaker 1>a time of emotional blackmail, listen to the sobbing children

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<v Speaker 1>on this policy issue, or else you're a bad person,

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<v Speaker 1>then the ideas and arguments that have failed in the

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<v Speaker 1>past will get through because we'll all be scared because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to be bad people, because we are caring,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are considerate, because we do want our kids

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<v Speaker 1>to be safe. We want all kids to be safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Notice how the issue somehow becomes a separation between those

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<v Speaker 1>who want to stop child uh stop the shootings in school,

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<v Speaker 1>school shootings and those who don't There's no such thing

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<v Speaker 1>as a constituency that doesn't want to stop school shootings.

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<v Speaker 1>So why is that the tone that this takes almost

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<v Speaker 1>automatically after one of these events. After one of these instances,

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<v Speaker 1>we're hearing that students are planning more protests and walkouts

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<v Speaker 1>from class. Well, I'd like to know what the specific

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<v Speaker 1>demands are here, But I would also note that this

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<v Speaker 1>is not how policy is made. Yeah, that they are

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to raise whatever objections they want, right, they have

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<v Speaker 1>first moment rights to we we know this, But what

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<v Speaker 1>the media is doing is very underhanded and what many

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<v Speaker 1>of the supporters of the narrative that's being presented, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that the n r A is the problem here.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget about dealing with mental health, forget about background, forget

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<v Speaker 1>about all that the n r A is the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to they want to take down and take

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the National Rifle Association. And there's just

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<v Speaker 1>no way that there aren't elements of the left, adults

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<v Speaker 1>with money and funding and connections who are tied into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't see how it. At a minimum, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the major broadcast networks other than Fox that are

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<v Speaker 1>just running with this as though they are a political

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<v Speaker 1>action committee, CNN, MSNBC another. So right then and there,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that they're giving a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>airtime to young people on this issue than they would

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<v Speaker 1>young people on other issues. As I said, you do

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<v Speaker 1>not tend to hear a lot of interviews of the

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<v Speaker 1>families of those killed by illegal aliens in this country

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<v Speaker 1>on CNN. CNN anchors do not ask the children of

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<v Speaker 1>those killed by illegal aliens on TV as they are crying,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about illegally? Should we have fewer

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<v Speaker 1>illegal aliens in the country? Crying child who lost his

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<v Speaker 1>dad to a drunk driver, a legal alien who has

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<v Speaker 1>been deported you know, fifteen times or whatever the number is. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do that because they're forming narratives, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that one, this one. They like the notion

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<v Speaker 1>that the n RA is behind a mass slaughter of

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<v Speaker 1>children at a school of school shooting. It is deceptive,

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<v Speaker 1>it's disgusting, it's unfair, and yet that's the plan. They

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<v Speaker 1>figure that if they are able to create an environment

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<v Speaker 1>of fear, then the arguments don't really matter anymore. This

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<v Speaker 1>is where the Left actually excels at promoting a a

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<v Speaker 1>an approach to an issue, a feeling, a sensibility around it,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's not about the specific issues or the arguments,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just about, Oh, I don't want to be I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be on the wrong side of that.

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<v Speaker 1>To bar from Obama, you don't want to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong side of history, as he used to constantly say. So,

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<v Speaker 1>now all of a sudden, we're seeing the first breaches

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<v Speaker 1>in the wall. We're seeing the breaks in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>You're seeing people that are saying, hold on, maybe you know, okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>this time we will do something. The administration sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're going to do something. Is it because we

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<v Speaker 1>have come up with new ideas? Maybe there are some

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<v Speaker 1>that I haven't really heard much of before, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about them. But is it really just another instance

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<v Speaker 1>of the left creating an environment of moral blackmail. You

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<v Speaker 1>better be with us on this, you better do what

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<v Speaker 1>we say on this issue, or you're a bad person,

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<v Speaker 1>or you don't care about children getting shot. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the underlying message of the left right now. And whether

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<v Speaker 1>you know or not that their policy are that the

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<v Speaker 1>an assault rifle band or background check expanse or any

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<v Speaker 1>of this is useless. Is irrelevant because you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bad person. You don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the wrong side of history. This is what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do right now. They've tried it in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>It has failed, will it fail this time on the

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<v Speaker 1>issue of guns. It's worked on other things. You look

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<v Speaker 1>at the context for discussion of any number of issues.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at what the left did by

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<v Speaker 1>weaponizing discussions of race and racism for political per is

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of decades, very effective for them. It

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<v Speaker 1>finally started to they finally kind of overplayed their hand

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<v Speaker 1>in the last you could argue ten or fifteen years

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<v Speaker 1>maybe where it didn't have the same accusations of racism,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the same punch as they used to. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there are other things that are career enders for people

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<v Speaker 1>that are just weaponized politics, right, accusations in place of argument.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to do that on guns right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not about having a an exchange of ideas about a

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<v Speaker 1>second amendment about the right to bear arms. No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>are you a good person or do you want do

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<v Speaker 1>you want children to not be shot in school? Yes

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<v Speaker 1>or no? If the answer is yes, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>the new shot in school. Then you have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have to give the left it's gun control agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to cave. You have to give in no

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<v Speaker 1>questions asked, Well, I'm not I'm not playing that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going along with that. I want policy that's

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<v Speaker 1>based on reason and argument and sound logic. And no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be cowed into silence because people

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<v Speaker 1>have suffered a personal tragedy or we're near a tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of many of these students, that that

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<v Speaker 1>gives you sympathy. It does not give you a greater

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<v Speaker 1>understanding and wisdom about national level policy than other people.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't. And I think the media is shameless

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<v Speaker 1>exploitation of tragedy involving miners, tragedy involving children. Here is

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<v Speaker 1>just yet another reason why we should we should always

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<v Speaker 1>maintain a healthy disrespect and disdain for the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be uh, I want to know what you think

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<v Speaker 1>about all this. We're gonna get into the specifics that

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<v Speaker 1>are out there. Eight four four eight to five eight

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<v Speaker 1>four four buck bump stock band, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>a R fifteen band? If you're under third, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think improving background checks, whatever that means. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go down this whole list. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of them. I want to know what you think

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<v Speaker 1>as well, so light up the lines will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about how we should have not ostracized him.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't know this case, Okay, we did. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that they're baby, that they are mental health issues. And

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a psychologist, but we need to pay

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the fact that this isn't just a mental

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<v Speaker 1>health issue. About we stopped blaming the victims for something

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<v Speaker 1>that was the shooter's fault. I don't think anyone's blaming

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<v Speaker 1>the victims. I don't really know what that young woman

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<v Speaker 1>who's been given a national media platform is referring to.

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<v Speaker 1>But you'll notice from the tone of some of the

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<v Speaker 1>students that they are angry and they are expressing. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them the ones that I'm seeing that are getting airtime.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember. This reminds me of after nine eleven. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that we're affected by nine eleven. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being at school finding out whether I was in college,

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<v Speaker 1>finding out whether or not my uncle made it out

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the towers. I didn't know for the

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<v Speaker 1>first few hours a friend of mine, a young woman

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<v Speaker 1>I had known since I was in the fourth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>found out that day that her sister died. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was there at the school, you know, when when the

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<v Speaker 1>news came down. Um, But I also remember that there

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<v Speaker 1>were people who decided that it was time to start

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<v Speaker 1>cutting campaign commercials for the Democrat Party and for John

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<v Speaker 1>Kerry and saying, you know, see, it was Bush's fault.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you'd say, well hold on a second,

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<v Speaker 1>well hold on whoa, It's like, oh, how dare you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they remember that the whole And I'll due

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<v Speaker 1>credit to Ann Coulter for being the one who's willing

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<v Speaker 1>to say hold on, these these aren't v nine eleven widows.

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<v Speaker 1>These are four widows of nine eleven. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other a lot of other widows and widowers and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, children lost their parents. It's you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not hearing from them, We're just hearing from the four

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<v Speaker 1>and the representative of the whole group. Always be careful

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<v Speaker 1>about this. You know, media is very slippery on this

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<v Speaker 1>issue when it comes to exploiting tragedy for political ends.

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<v Speaker 1>There are the producers and the bookers on these shows

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<v Speaker 1>at CNN MSNBC. They are making decisions based upon who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to give them the most anti Trump, anti n

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<v Speaker 1>R A shout fast, so then they're sanctimonious, ignorant anchors

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<v Speaker 1>can go, oh will you don't feel like the children's

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy deserves to be heard? And the whole thing, we

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<v Speaker 1>know how the game is played, we know how they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, and this is what they're up to. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I mentioned before they I stumbled for a

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<v Speaker 1>second because I want to make sure I had the

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<v Speaker 1>right date. And seeing there's a plan, there are plans

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<v Speaker 1>going forward for a major march akin to in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of size, the Women's March. It will be an anti

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<v Speaker 1>uh anti gun march. I don't know what if they

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<v Speaker 1>have an official name yet, a gun control legislation March

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<v Speaker 1>or you know whatever they're gonna call it for march,

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<v Speaker 1>a march on March. And there are others as well,

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<v Speaker 1>And they've got tens of thousand people signing petitions and

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<v Speaker 1>this is now becoming a point of political mobilization and

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<v Speaker 1>action for the Democrat left. You're also seeing stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>a billboard in Louisville, Kentucky that somebody vandalized with huge

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<v Speaker 1>writing it says kill the n r A. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong here, my friends. We are going to dig

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<v Speaker 1>into it together and we'll talk more about what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this break. He's holding the line for America.

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton is back, and I think that it's really

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<v Speaker 1>important that we come together now since adults are not

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for us. I remember the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>heard about Sandy Hook. I remember talking about Virginia attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>That will be different because the people who are deeply

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<v Speaker 1>affected by the shooting, the people who saw it, are

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<v Speaker 1>the people speaking out. Because we keep telling them that

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<v Speaker 1>if they accept this blood money there against the children,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, that's topper. Gun laws do not decrease gun violence.

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<v Speaker 1>We call we could just play all day news clips

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<v Speaker 1>of teenagers, kids who are telling us what gun control

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<v Speaker 1>policy should be, saying things about gun laws that are

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<v Speaker 1>not true. I couldn't believe yes or seeing at CBS

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<v Speaker 1>left up the tweet about how it's easier to get

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<v Speaker 1>an a R fifteen than to buy cold medicine. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not just fake news, it's malicious news. They're really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to turn up the heat on this problem, turn up

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<v Speaker 1>the heat on the debate make this nasty, Make it

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<v Speaker 1>not a problem that we have to solve as a country,

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a nation. Make it a US versus them.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard it, and that young woman she said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's either you're with the children or you're against them.

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<v Speaker 1>With them or against them. This is a this is

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<v Speaker 1>a repeat. You'll hear more and more of that. You

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<v Speaker 1>either want to stop child murder in school or you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they'll say. But there's no one who wants

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<v Speaker 1>kids to get shot in school, no one. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are they talking about? Why do they have to be

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<v Speaker 1>so inflammatory? Here's something to keep in mind, my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>as we go forward and continue to cover this. How

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<v Speaker 1>is it that the passions on this issue are even

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<v Speaker 1>more elevated right now with greater distance from the actual

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<v Speaker 1>event than they were in the first forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are the kids that are speaking about this becoming

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<v Speaker 1>more aggressive? Why are we seeing signs kill the n

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<v Speaker 1>r A in Louisville Now? Why are we hearing these

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<v Speaker 1>refrains like you're with the children or you're against them.

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<v Speaker 1>You either want to stop child murder in school or

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. Now days after the event, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it stands to reason that if this were based on

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<v Speaker 1>the emotions of the moment, you would hear the most

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<v Speaker 1>over the top inflammatory rhetoric and these accusations at the

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<v Speaker 1>n r A. You'd hear it more in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it would turn into a policy debate. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>actually you're hearing this stuff now. It's getting worse. The anger,

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<v Speaker 1>the rage from one side of the political spectrum to

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<v Speaker 1>the other over guns is escalating as we have distance

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<v Speaker 1>from the event. That doesn't make sense, doesn't make sense

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<v Speaker 1>unless unless there is a guiding hand behind this, unless

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<v Speaker 1>there's more going on here than just spontaneous student protests

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<v Speaker 1>over gun control and gun violence. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>these kids don't believe it. I'm sure they do. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again, there's a reason why we don't let sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>year olds vote on national policy issues. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>why they don't get to pick our representatives, and there

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<v Speaker 1>there's a basis for all of that. You know, the voting.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be sixteen, maybe it should be twelve. Do

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<v Speaker 1>we have five year old voting? We have journalists who

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to think that it was respectable and responsible to

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<v Speaker 1>use their children as props as anti Trump attacked vessels.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my daughter came up to me and said,

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<v Speaker 1>why does Donald Trump hate women? Mommy? And she's only three.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that your daughter said that at three,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of journalists were doing that. Those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who are paying close attention to the the commentary

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<v Speaker 1>at during the election, we'll remember that was a trend

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. There's a trend going on here, but

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<v Speaker 1>it seems that it's getting angrier as we get further

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<v Speaker 1>from the event. And I don't believe it's because of inaction.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think that the Trump administration has shown

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<v Speaker 1>I know they have shown quite a willingness to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>these issues and look at them. Here's the President himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Safety is a top priority for my administration. That is

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<v Speaker 1>why when governors from across the nation visit the White

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<v Speaker 1>House next week, we will be discussing at great length

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<v Speaker 1>what the federal and state governments can do to keep

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<v Speaker 1>our students safe. This includes implementing common sense security measures

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<v Speaker 1>and addressing mental health issues, including better coordination between federal

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<v Speaker 1>and state law enforcement to take swift action and when

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<v Speaker 1>there are warning signs. President is taking this issue very seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>He's listening to what's being said. He's going over the

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<v Speaker 1>proposals that are out there now. He says, state and

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<v Speaker 1>federal and local, we're working on it. We are. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not saying there's nothing. I'm not going to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is fine. And yet you turn on the news

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll hear students who are being elevated into the

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<v Speaker 1>national discussion, who are saying stuff like to the president.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that it's really important that we come

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<v Speaker 1>to the president. The ball is in your cordinal. You

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<v Speaker 1>are either with us or you are against us. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are against us, then that means you are signing

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<v Speaker 1>our death certificates. You are letting more children die every day.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no middle ground here. You are either with

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<v Speaker 1>us and helping children survive, helping children feel safe to

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<v Speaker 1>go to school, or you are against us. We are

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<v Speaker 1>very confident because unlike every other you get the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that was a seventeen year old. Mr. President. You're with us,

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<v Speaker 1>you're against you, you're signing children's debt certificates. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't ban a R fifteen, that's really that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to take away from this. That's quite a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of culpability, A lot of blame that's put on the

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<v Speaker 1>president for something that he has nothing to do with.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind that Congress would have to pass the

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<v Speaker 1>legislation first, and yet it's all put at the feet

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump. You see, this is what's really happening here. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we think that there would be quite the same tone,

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<v Speaker 1>quite the same approach if you had a Democrat president? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course not. This issue of guns is now being

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<v Speaker 1>tied into the issue of hashtag resistance. Gun control is

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<v Speaker 1>now being hijacked by the left, by the institutional left,

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<v Speaker 1>the money, the movers and shakers, the sauros Is, the MSNBC's,

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<v Speaker 1>the CNNs, and the rest of them, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>mobilize progressive elements of our society against the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>In yet another way, it's yet another front of the

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<v Speaker 1>never Trump, anti Trump war. It immediately becomes about the president.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why there's so much fury behind this movement

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<v Speaker 1>and this effort right now. That's what's different from the

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>school shooting versus other school shootings. And and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a president who's willing to say, we should actually address

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<v Speaker 1>this in whatever way we can, let's talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're saying Oh no, you're the blood is on

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<v Speaker 1>the president's hands. There's a particular anger right now. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a particular rage about gun control because Donald Trump is president.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's going on here in the background. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that's what's got all these students fired up.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them or I'm sure being told things by adults.

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<v Speaker 1>Others are being are being encouraged to whatever their initial

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<v Speaker 1>impulse is about this, and a lot of them are

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the ones from the school. Keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about in general, because this is now a movement.

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<v Speaker 1>This is beyond the school. So now we've gotta listen

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<v Speaker 1>to kids that are marching that didn't even go to

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<v Speaker 1>the school. Now, all kids have a special say in this,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as they're pro gun control. They're not just

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<v Speaker 1>mobilizing for the school, They're mobilizing for all schools. This

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is now going to turn into a student movement of sorts. Ah.

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Now it all starts to fit together, doesn't it. It's

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>about a whole lot more than one school shooting and

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the government's response to it. You are seeing the apparatus

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>of the left in action and mobilizing through the exploitation

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>of a terrible event in which seventeen young people were

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>murdered in school by a classmate who was a psychopath,

0:28:55.120 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>who was evil. And yet I'm hearing so much about

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>how the n r A is murder. The n r

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>A is guilty of murder. Trump is going to have

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>blood in his hands if he doesn't do what the

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>kids are demanding. This is not how sound policy has

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>made and this is not how adults have discussions. It's

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>how the left wants the discussion to go though, and

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>we will see more and more of their fingerprints all

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>over this. Keep in mind as we go along here,

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>as we expose what's really happening, they will say the

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>nastiest things. They'll say that you are either with the

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>children or against them. You either want to stop child

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>murder or you don't care. You're complicit in child murder

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>if you don't do what they say. I mean, this

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>is ideological hostage taking. It's a disgrace, and it's really

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. All right, I want to hear from

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you eight four four, eight to five. We will take

0:29:49.240 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>some calls right after this break. All right, every single

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>line is lit here in the Freedom Hut. So let's

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>rack and stack and take some calls. But first I

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to note that I got a piece of

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 1>information from one of our own here in the hut. Brandon,

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>who's running the board today, told me something, just to

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>give you a sense of how far and wide the

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>tentacles of a tragedy like this go, Brandon, tell him,

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>tell them what you told me. I unfortunately know one

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of the teachers that was killed in the in the shooting.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>When the name started to come out, Um, I hadn't

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>spoken to Scott Beagle since high school. Went to high

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>school with him, Long Island, dix Hills High School, Half

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>holl Hills High School, East Long Name. Uh, so he

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>was your classmate. He was my classmate plenty classes. I

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>hadn't spoken to him since, so, I mean, it's an acquaintment.

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>He was your high school class man and he but

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember him being such a sweet and nice kid.

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>So I remember as soon as I saw his face

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and name, I know that I know. And he was

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the He was one of the heroes of

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the incident, right. He was one of the ones who

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>ran to open the door to to save some kids.

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>He was the geology teacher who opened his unlocked door

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to let more students in, and before he can relock it,

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that's when he got shot. And they're saying that his

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 1>body blocked the door from more casualties. So he's a hero,

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh, I don't know if you want me to say.

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>His wife apparently gave a little brief statement because Scott jokingly,

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess, said something that if he was ever killed

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>in any of these situations, so by the quote, you'll

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>he never believed that would have happened. Promise me, if

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>this ever happens to me, you will tell them the truth,

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>tell them what a jerk I am, and don't talk

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>about the hero stuff. So of course his wife, he

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>was saying that as a joke to his wife, thinking

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that this would never happen to him. So when his

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>wife spoke, she still read that she did. Yes, yes,

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>all right, Brandon, thank you for sharing that that you

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>know that personal connection with all this. All right, let's

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>get into your call, folks. We've got every line lit,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>like I said, so we got a lot to go

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>to here. Vincent in Greensboro, North Carolina, Hey, Vincent, Hi, Bud,

0:31:57.000 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear, but loss of his friend there,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>that's Uh, horrible to hear. Um. I just couldn't help.

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>But I've been listening to this topic now for days

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>on just about every radio show there is, and I

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>don't remember any time where somebody screamed and yelled for

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>what they wanted when they were a kid, and they

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>just got what they wanted because they demanded it. Um.

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like this's just a program because these protesters,

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of the protesters we've seen in the

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, to me, just looked like bankrolled

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>protesters that really are uh dupes. Uh, they're pretty much

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them will say whatever they're told, maybe

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>some of them believe it. Do you think some of

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>this anti gun stuff, whether a current or what we're

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>going to see, is AstroTurf. It's not. This is not

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the grassroots exactly, because I don't I don't remember meeting

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>too many people who agree with that. Somebody you say, oh, well, yeah,

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>there's guns are dangerous, blah blah blah, but a lot

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of people will never flat out say there they want

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>to give up their their firearms. It is a god

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>given right to hone one uh not just because it's

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>written down in the Constitution. Of the Bill of Rights,

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and uh, uh, well, Vincent, I appreciate you sharing thoughts

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for calling in, Sir, Shields High. Let's

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 1>take Uh, we've got a lot of calls coming from

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. We got a whole bunch of North Carolina

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>calls here. Well, it's all right, we'll take one more

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll take it up and I'll take it

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>up to Boston. We gotta get lots of different geographical

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>regions in North Carolina is very very heavy on the

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>lines right now. Um, we love you North Carolina. Mike

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina, Hey, buddy, Hey Buck, I totally agree

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>with everything Vincent said on the ellin of rules. Um,

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>so let me get took it. Um. She said that

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>people wouldn't be killed with a knife. Me and Lissashi killed. Well,

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>he defeated thirty men by so um taking the swords

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>away from Japan. Uh. During the that time, spawn ningas

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and so the assassination was ran rapid. And to get

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>to the last bit about Japan, Tojo said, Uh, the

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>reason we have our Second Amendment rfle a rifle behind

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>every blade of grass, right, thank you, yes, sir, that's

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>why they couldn't invade America. Yeah, yeah, Mike, thanks for

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 1>calling it from North Carolina, Man Shields. Hi John, and

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>also Greensboro, North Carolina. Hey John, how are you doing, Buck,

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. Thank you for a call that was calling

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>about the gun control also, yeah, of course, man, that's

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 1>the that's the issue. Do your issue of the hour,

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 1>go for it. We all need to hear the word control,

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 1>because that's what it's all about. We never hear all

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>of this left is crying when any other person, child,

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>adult is killed any other way. We just had a

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>child killed by a drunk illegal alien last week, and

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>we're to sail in North Carolina. I'm still waiting for

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a politician to cry over that child. John. I'm just

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess you haven't seen anyone, anyone in the

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>family of that child killed interviewed on CNN and a

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 1>national news broadcast on the issue of legal aliens. Yeah,

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>no alcohol band, no eagle alien band, no, no, no

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of band, and no tears. Yeah. I mean the

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>politicization of this, of this by the left, I mean,

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to use child victims in a sense as as issues

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>or as as politicized policy weapons. It's just so tasteless.

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>But that's what they're doing exactly. And then the other

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>thing is, let's talk about making the school safety. I

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>have to barcode with my fingerprints in and out of

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>work every time I go into parking lot. If I

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>go into where our truck drivers come like to use

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 1>the restroom, I got a barcode to get back in

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 1>the building. It works fine. Oh, we got about six

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred people working here Tilton the times a day. It works,

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>in and out, in and out, in and out. And

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 1>then we could have some the concealed carry holders taking

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>additional course and carry the faculty carry on campus. And

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I would also add, you know, if you get to

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>concealed carry older's you also got have people, you know,

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>it could be kind of a package training we do

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 1>individuals that also understand more about de escalating physical confrontations.

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>In general, you get more teachers that are also trained

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>as first responders. I mean, I I think I think

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole lot of ways that we could consider

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to make school look. Schools among the softest of

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>soft targets, right, They're they're wide open generally speaking to

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the to the public. Uh, you've got you know, kids

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that can't defend themselves. Especially you're talking about an armed

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to sound active shooter situation. So yeah, I think it

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense to talk about, especially in

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>areas where you think that. I mean, look, this isn't

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>just this isn't a school with with thirty students. There

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>is a school with almost three thousand, right, I mean

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>this is a really big institution and one armed guard

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>on the premises one for three thousand. My college had

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>sixteen hundred students, had its own police department, if we

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>want to go, had its own on campus, and they

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>were all armed officers and they were all deputized under

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts state law. Uh, they were armed. And I think

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.759
<v Speaker 1>we had for a campus of sixteen hundred six officers

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>on any given time, you know. So they just by

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>way of comparison, they got three thousand kids and they

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 1>only had one one officer. And John, thank you for

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>calling in from Greensborough. H one more Kenny and Boston Kenny.

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>We got about a minute, but I want to get

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you in before we get going with some other stuff.

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>You're go ahead, right, how you doing? Um? I'm seeing

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a parallel being revealed between this Sparkland gun control movement

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and the Me Too movement in the sense that they

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>both have a they want to call this non political

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and then engage in politics, and then they want to

0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>forbid any questioning or uh, going after the victims at

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>all in any you know anything. You have to just

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>listen to them and were they wanted as as a

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>with a me too movement, and accusation becomes tantamount to

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>a conviction. And all of that shows me that I

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 1>think that's all that's the Me too movement is largely

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>being orchestrated by the left. Yeah, I see the parallel

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to Kenny. It's in a student observation. Thank you very

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>much for calling him my friend. We gotta roll into

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a break coming up here. I know today was Tuesday,

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>but I kind of had a case of the Mondays.

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really sleep that well last night. It just

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>felt like how many get my day started at? So

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck never stops. After the deadly shooting in Las Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>I directed Attorney General to clarify wha there's certain bub

0:39:55.520 --> 0:40:00.359
<v Speaker 1>stock devices like the one used in Las Vegas are

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>illegal undercurrent law. That process began in December, and just

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a few moments ago I signed a memorandum directing the

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Attorney General to propose regulations to ban all devices that

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>turn legal weapons into machine guns. Welcome back to the

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>buck Sex and show everybody. In the last hour, we

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about the student protests and the growing movement to

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.759
<v Speaker 1>call for gun control in the aftermath of the park Land,

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Florida school shooting. And now we just had President Trump

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>talking today about what he's willing to do in response,

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>or what he's willing to consider. At least we are

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:49.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at, or I should say, the federal government is

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>now looking at the issue of an a R fifteen ban,

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>which I don't think we'll ever go through. UM. Today,

0:40:57.400 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>in fact, the Florida state legislature voted out a proposal

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to ban a OUR fifteens, and sure enough the media

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>was there and taking photos of children from the Parkland

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>High School that were in attendance. Douglas, I forget the

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>school where the shooting occurred. Marjorie Stoneman. Douglas and the

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:21.240
<v Speaker 1>kids were very upset about the bill not going through.

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>But this is the process now we have. This is

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the way laws are actually made. It is not based

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>upon whoever has the most passion in the moment. It

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 1>is based upon a yeah, democratic legislator, democratically elected legislature

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>taking action or not. So they did not pass an

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>air fifteen band in Florida. They're now turning to state

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and they say local bands if they can't get a

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>federal band. This is also what brings me to the

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>There are very well connected and financed adults who are

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>pushing this agenda and using children as props to get

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 1>what they want. That has happening right now. There is

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>no way that all of a sudden, here we are,

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>days after the event. You have these policies that are

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>just agreed upon at the grassroots student level, that are

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden now mobilized and getting a lot

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of national level press. Do we really think a lot

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of high school kids generally know the difference between state

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and local firearms laws and where the federal ban would

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 1>end and the local band would begin, etcetera, etcetera. I

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. This is being fed to some students,

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>or rather the agenda is being promoted through students as

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 1>vessels for the message, because the students are not to

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>be contradicted publicly because they are victims. That's the game

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>that the Democrats play. It's disgraceful they are using traumatized

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>children as props in a political fight. But here we are.

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 1>That is what they are doing. You're also noticing that

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 1>many of the journalists out there that are pushing the

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>different politicians, Democrats, etcetera, that are pushing for action just

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>expose that they do not particularly view the Second Amendment

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.720
<v Speaker 1>is really a part of the constitution. They just don't

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>think that that it counts the same way as other stuff.

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's how you get people like uh Well as

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>a finance reporter, usually at CNBC, but he he has

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>an idea for how we could handle the gun problem.

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>The scariest part of these conversations with so many of

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.839
<v Speaker 1>them said, you know what, I like the idea. There's

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>part of us that actually would like to do something

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>like this, but we are scared about two things. Part

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of it is we're scared about the the economic potential

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>boycott that could happen, both from the n r A

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 1>and gun owners who say, you know what, if JP

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Morgan does this, we're we're not going to use their cards.

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>The other thing that's even more nerve racking, though, is

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them said, you know what, I don't

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>want to put my employees in harm's way. I actually

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>think that there could be an incident if we were

0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to do this. I don't want to bring attention out

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>to ourselves. And that's a very very scary thing, you know.

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Now he was talking about banks not working with or

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>refusing to work with companies who sell guns, and as

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:19.839
<v Speaker 1>if that's not enough, Keep in mind now that would

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>be imagine if if you had this with any other

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>constitutionally protected right, you know, using that you had that

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of discrimination going on by major institutions that are

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>tremendously fed federally regulated. And don't even get me started

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>on it. Uh you know, where to banks and in

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the and the federal government begin as a whole other question.

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>But also notice how it's not enough merely to just

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>say that he thinks that there would be issues with

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>a effectively a financial system boycott of firearms manufacturers and

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:02.279
<v Speaker 1>gun sellers, cutting them off um the financial markets because

0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>of their constitution constitutionally protected right to bear because people

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 1>want to bear arms, and because they to do so,

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 1>they need to be able to sell them. Look at this,

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>they want to regulate out of existence the Second Amendment.

0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.280
<v Speaker 1>We see them say this, we see this get support,

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and then they turn and say, oh no, no no, we

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:19.479
<v Speaker 1>just want common sense. Remember that was the Obama line,

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>common sense gun reform. Then you say, well, it's not

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 1>common sense because it won't work. So that's nonsensical. What

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about doesn't make sense. Oh well, in that case,

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you just want dead children. You're a bad person. Do

0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.840
<v Speaker 1>what I say, or else I'll tell everybody you just

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>don't care about dead children. That's that's the way the

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are advancing the advancing the ball on this one

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>of my friends, that's what they are doing. And it

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:47.240
<v Speaker 1>is very troubling, very troubling. Indeed, it's not going away

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>because this is now a movement. This is instead of

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the Women's March, You're going to have the gun control March.

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>This will be the manifestation of the resistance hashtag resist

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>since anti Trump left, using children as the vanguard, so

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that anyone who contradicts them on a policy level, who

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>makes the counter argument, I'm not saying to do it

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 1>in a mean way. I'm not saying call the kids.

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>You know you're I'm not gonna call. Remember, we're going

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 1>way beyond just the kids who are at the Marjorie

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Douglas School. Now, now we're talking about just kids in

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>general at schools. They're gonna be organized for this purpose. Thousands,

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>perhaps tens of thousands of students across the country doing

0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>walkouts and marches and rallies, but they're all going to

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>be put under this rubric of well, well, they're the

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>next victims unless we take action. Don't you want to

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>prevent them from being victims? Aren't you anti gun violence

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 1>in schools? Oh? I guess I am, Well, then you

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 1>better do what we say. Ban the a R fifteen

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>nationally banned the air fifteen at the state level, which

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I would know other states have done. I live in

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>New York State. In fact, here, the way that it's

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>ended up being implemented they've created because they haven't been

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>semi on the rifles because they can't get that through.

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So now you just have New York State compliant a

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>R variants, which if you've seen, are not particularly pleasing

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>to the eye, but function the same way in air

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>fifteen does just no collapsing stock, uh, no carrying handle.

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe they mandated some changes to the real system.

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but there's there's some a R compliant

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 1>New York State a R compliant guns that are being sold,

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>that have been sold, and in Connecticut they banned, They

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>banned air fifteen, said you have to turn them in.

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 1>They just went with confiscation, and it's estimated that there

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 1>are over a hundred thousand I think now technically illegal

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a rs in the state of Connecticut, just because because

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, the sheriffs aren't gonna go and kicking

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>indoors I guess and taking firearms from people that they

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>legally purchased and they're legally allowed to have a gun.

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 1>But in Connecticut they said, well, we're gonna you have

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:59.439
<v Speaker 1>to turn it in now, and a lot of people

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>didn't turn the men. So there's that. Ah, this is

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>where this whole discussion is going. Just understand the politics

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 1>beyond it now. I know we've got a lot We

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.759
<v Speaker 1>took some calls in the last hour on guns and

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>gun control and this issue. Um, we're going to continue

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 1>talking to this yere on the show. I don't want

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to spend too much of our time tonight on this

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 1>because we're gonna be back on it tomorrow and this

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>is now front and center. It has replaced immigration. I

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>thought at this point in February, team we'll be talking

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.879
<v Speaker 1>immigration immigration. Nope, we have moved to gun control now.

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 1>And so this will be a continuing theme here on

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the show. So if you don't get a chance to

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:34.719
<v Speaker 1>talk to us about it today, if you're calling in

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 1>or you've been waiting on hold, I know a lot

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 1>of you have. I promise there'll be lots of opportunities

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>going forward because this is now a focus of the

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>left and we have to engage on this to make

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>sure that bad policy does not result. Um. But coming

0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:51.840
<v Speaker 1>up in this hour, I just want to give you

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a sense where we're going a little more on the

0:48:55.239 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 1>the Russian troll factory and what's real and it's not

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.839
<v Speaker 1>with all that, and what's serious analysis and what's hysterical hyperbole.

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Then we will talk about the latest casualty of the

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Mueller investigation. A lawyer who had nothing to do with

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>anything but said the wrong thing to Mueller. Whoops. Now

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>he's facing federal felony. He's a citizen of the Netherlands.

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I think this is interesting in the US.

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.399
<v Speaker 1>US extends federal law to pretty much everybody it can

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>all over the world. It's it's an interesting thing. Um.

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, this is where you start to see other

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>countries come on, right, But Us' is like Oh no,

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:37.439
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna this is when you start to make laws

0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>about meddling and meddling elections and just wait till that

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:45.760
<v Speaker 1>blows back on us. Trust me. But this lawyer who

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>is now stand is taking a plea deal and also

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 1>one of Manaforts associates. So we've got some upbates in

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>mull investigation. But I think in some way his most

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 1>interesting coming up this hour and it will be later on.

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>We have a guest joining as a lawyer to talk

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:03.320
<v Speaker 1>about uh. And I see now some of the networks

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I had planned this interview all day. I see some

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 1>of the networks have actually run interviews on this in

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the last hour or so. What if the fix was

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 1>in against General Flynn. What if they actually knew that

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't intentionally lying or doing anything that was a crime,

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 1>but they decided that it was essential to get Flynn

0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 1>in order to create the appearance of legitimacy for the

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 1>rest of the Muller probe of Trump's people and all

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. Right, what if they stacked the

0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>deck to go after General Flynn. What if they were

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 1>going for his scalp and they cheated to do it.

0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:43.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean the prosecutors can't prove that yet, but there

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 1>is an argument that we may in fact find out

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 1>whether or not that happened, and there's some reason to

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 1>believe that it did. There's some reason to believe that

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 1>it did. We are going to look at that later

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>on in this hour because Flynn maybe withdrawing there's there's

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>some word out that Flynn maybe withdrawing his guilty plea.

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Why would he do that? Well, there's a judge that's involved,

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>the very important judge, a judge who was one of

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 1>the few who has held the status and yes, even

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the deep staters to account in the past, Judge Emmitt Sullivan.

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:20.839
<v Speaker 1>He is saying that the FBI has to produce information

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 1>here about the Flynn guilty plea, all of the information.

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps that will be very interesting because I have a

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>feeling and we will talk about why that this may

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 1>uncover that Flynn got the flip side of Hillary Clinton justice.

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:42.360
<v Speaker 1>You see, with Hillary and her top aids, it was

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 1>how do we bend the law, how do we bend

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>over backwards to do everything we can to make sure

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that there's zero legal jeopardy here. We have seen not

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 1>just the converse of that process, the the flip side

0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of that goin but with the same actors involved, Peter Struck,

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:12.320
<v Speaker 1>James Comey, Deputy Director McKay, but the same people involved.

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>We see how they do the one trial or the

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>one case. We see how they do the other case.

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>You know which of these things is not like the other? Oh? Well,

0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>one involves a Republican president. One involves the hope, the

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 1>singular hope of the Democrat Party, Hillary Clinton. Hmm. Looks

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:33.439
<v Speaker 1>like they were treated quite differently. We will get into

0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that later on this hour. You will definitely want to

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 1>hear that, and then we'll talk also about the some

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of the specific gun policies. I haven't gone to yet.

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hold off because we've got Sean Davis

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 1>from the Federalist joining us in the third hour, and

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:45.799
<v Speaker 1>then we'll just kind of freestyle it and talk about

0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:48.759
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0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:51.520
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<v Speaker 1>imagine my surprise when you have so many in the

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<v Speaker 1>media and in the Democrat Party and even some Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Republicans actually, who are treating the indictment

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<v Speaker 1>of thirteen Russians tied to social media campaign a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>one in terms of the budget, an inconsequential one in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what it did, and you can imagine my surprise. However,

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:45.480
<v Speaker 1>when over at MSNBC I hear some analysis that is

0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>actually quite sound, is actually right on the mark. Here's

0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:54.319
<v Speaker 1>what Adrian Chen, a journalist, had to say about what

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<v Speaker 1>went on with the whole Russia interference situation. Essentially, it's

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:03.160
<v Speaker 1>so fial media marketing campaign with ninety people, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of million dollars a few million dollars behind it, um,

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<v Speaker 1>run by people who have, you know, a bare grasp

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<v Speaker 1>of the English language and not a full understanding of

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>who they're targeting, what they're targeting. Um. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that in terms of just a normal

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.439
<v Speaker 1>marketing campaign, that's not going to be a very good

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:23.399
<v Speaker 1>bang for your book. There's not a lot of people saying, well,

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 1>let's let's hold back. You know, maybe it's not all

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<v Speaker 1>of that big of a deal. Maybe it's not all

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 1>that big of a deal. You know. He makes some

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<v Speaker 1>really really worthwhile points in there too, about how it

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<v Speaker 1>is the case that people were able to tell generally

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<v Speaker 1>who these troll accounts were and what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>because in a lot of them the grasp of English

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even very good. Well, voll Trump, he is best though,

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:54.879
<v Speaker 1>love hug and kisses Kremlin. I mean, come on, it's

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't going to be that effective no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>It was minuscule when compared to the massive media echo

0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>chambers on both sides when it comes to the election,

0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just complete nonsense. But here we we got a

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.400
<v Speaker 1>guy who's want to say, look at maybe people shouldn't

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't just totally freak out about this, And yeah, that's

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:19.080
<v Speaker 1>all I'm trying to say about this too. We shouldn't

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>freak out about It's not that big a deal. People

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 1>want to make it a big deal because Hillary lost.

0:56:24.640 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 1>But you see, this is what it brings us back

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<v Speaker 1>to the point about how they were willing to overlook

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<v Speaker 1>it when they thought Hillary was gonna win, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was their their actual judgment at the time. Not that

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:37.319
<v Speaker 1>big a deal, don't rock the boat. Hillary is gonna win.

0:56:37.360 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll forget all about this. That was their real feeling

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:44.000
<v Speaker 1>about it. If you don't believe me, just remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's President Obama said, there is no serious person out

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<v Speaker 1>there who would suggest somehow that you could even you

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<v Speaker 1>could even rig America's elections, in part because they're so

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized and the numbers of votes involved. There's no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that has happened in the past or that there are

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<v Speaker 1>instances in which that will happen this time. And so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd invite Mr Trump to stop lining and go try

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<v Speaker 1>to make his case to get votes, and if he

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<v Speaker 1>got the most votes, then it would be my expectation

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<v Speaker 1>of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and

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<v Speaker 1>pledge to work with him to make sure the American

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<v Speaker 1>people benefit from an effective government. What Obama said there

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<v Speaker 1>is all true. Actually, hey, look, I give credit. I

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>give credit where it's due. Some people are just you know,

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:45.040
<v Speaker 1>raw raw whatever they think. You know, the conservative populace

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:46.520
<v Speaker 1>movement wants to hear. Right now, I just tell you

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>what I think in any given moment, and what Obama

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 1>said there is true. It being very very hard for

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.240
<v Speaker 1>any one person reging election, be very hard to reg

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<v Speaker 1>an election period. It would be I mean, if you,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, we're to make sure that there was no

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<v Speaker 1>voter I D in place in a whole lot of states,

0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I mean that that would at least

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:07.400
<v Speaker 1>make it easier. I'm not saying you could, but it

0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 1>make it easier. But nonetheless, it would be very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to do alright, realistically, and they knew this, and they

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 1>knew it before and they know it now. But they're

0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>just so self indulgent when it comes to their anti

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Trump rage that they'll justify anything with it. And that's

0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>why this whole troll factory. So, I mean, it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I was just explaining to a Miss Molly

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about this, and she's one of the

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 1>great things about our relationship. But she's not somebody who's political.

0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:40.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, she's she's up on what goes on in

0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the world, but she's not. It's just she's got other

0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 1>things in her mind. It's great and I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>home and have to you know, oh, did you read

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the latest piece in the Weekly Standard. I'm like, no, no,

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not how it goes. I was explaining

0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 1>this to her and she's kind of like, wait, what,

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>how many people? How much money? What? And I was like, yeah, exactly.

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:01.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a kind of what situation like this

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 1>is not what they're trying to make it into. And

0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what is so so exasperating. That's a good word

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<v Speaker 1>for EXASPERA gosh, it's so tired of it. But we

0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta keep fighting Fox, gotta get the shield high because

0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>they're they're gonna push on this. This is all about remember,

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 1>all about impeachment and long term all about it. That's

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 1>why they are clinging to the narrative because if they

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.280
<v Speaker 1>are able to they don't. They're not going to get

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 1>removal unless they win the Senate and the House. But

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:33.080
<v Speaker 1>even if all they can manage is to, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>take the House, which I think is unlikely, but that's

0:59:36.680 --> 0:59:39.480
<v Speaker 1>what they're hoping, they'll they'll impeach to the president on

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 1>this issue even without a Muller. A Muller never mind

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<v Speaker 1>a smoking gun with anything. I mean, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>mention it yet I gotta talk about it. Right after this,

0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 1>this latest guy that Muller got, everyone just like, what

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<v Speaker 1>is what is this? Why are we even so he

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:58.360
<v Speaker 1>he was I have to look, I have to give

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<v Speaker 1>you the details. It's so insignifican again and so nonsensical

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<v Speaker 1>in the broader scope of what Mueller is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for here with Russia collusion, that you're forced

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<v Speaker 1>to sit around you say to yourself, what are we

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<v Speaker 1>even spending our tax dollars on here? With he's some

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<v Speaker 1>Dutch lawyer who said something that no one cares about.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI is now facing prison time. Is crazy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>back with you now because when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>fight for truth, the fuck never stops. When you return

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<v Speaker 1>an indictment that no one is ever going to be

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<v Speaker 1>tried on, um, you do it because you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>craft a narrative or make a statement. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with Mueller's case is the original collusion angle

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<v Speaker 1>that they were proceeding on, which is that the Russians

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<v Speaker 1>hacked the election and that Trump may have been or

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<v Speaker 1>Trump people may have been complicit in the hacking, is

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<v Speaker 1>something that a they don't have evidence of and be

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<v Speaker 1>even if they hadn't, they couldn't prove in court. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a big hole in a collusion case. What Mueller probably

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do was put to rest any claim that

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<v Speaker 1>Russia hadn't actually uh interfered with our election, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think this indictment is an attempt to do that, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's far afield from what the original collusion allegation was.

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<v Speaker 1>As our friend Annie McCarthy, who was just laying out

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<v Speaker 1>some of his thoughts on Fox News about the Muller

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<v Speaker 1>and Diamond from last week. Very important that we all

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<v Speaker 1>understand they're creating a narrative with all this that Mueller

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<v Speaker 1>is actually bringing a federal case against thirteen Russians, really

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<v Speaker 1>as part of the news cycle. That's what this is about.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it's a news story. It's not actually a

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<v Speaker 1>federal prosecution is not going to go anywhere. The mean anything,

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<v Speaker 1>never going to get these guys. And as I've said

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<v Speaker 1>to you also, I think there's a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other problems with information warfare as a charge that a

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<v Speaker 1>federal prosecutor, effectively federal prosecutor is is levying against another

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<v Speaker 1>country and what that means for our country. And do

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<v Speaker 1>we ever meddle? I don't know. I think maybe sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it might have happened somewhere just saying the meddling. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have the Mueller probe continuing on. As we discussed

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<v Speaker 1>last week, there was there were the indictments, and then

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<v Speaker 1>today you have two more bits of information add into

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<v Speaker 1>all this. One you have a colleague of Paul Manaforts

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<v Speaker 1>Gates who has been flipped, we are told who has

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<v Speaker 1>been flipped and is going to testify against Maniport and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be They're gonna try to nail them on

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<v Speaker 1>some fraud stuff and some wire fraud, bank stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just things that have nothing to do with Russia collusion. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've I've said this along you those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who have been listening to the show for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and now over a year on air here in National syndication,

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<v Speaker 1>those have been listening to me for a while now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been very consistent on this point. This is

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<v Speaker 1>going to grind along, and it's gonna chop up the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of a whole bunch of folks that have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with conspiring with the Kremlin to mess with

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<v Speaker 1>a U. S election. But the left just wants they

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<v Speaker 1>just want to feed bodies into the system that they

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<v Speaker 1>just want scalps. They want people to be punished so

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<v Speaker 1>that there is some sense of wrongdoing from the Trump camp,

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<v Speaker 1>right just because if if anyone goes to pre it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. What for if it's tax evasion, which may

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<v Speaker 1>very well be involved in the Menaphort charge, well then

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<v Speaker 1>they're bad people that around Trump. Keep Menaphort got canned

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<v Speaker 1>during the campaign. It's not Trump's fault. If Manaford was

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<v Speaker 1>doing shady stuff in Ukraine beforehand and whatever. And as

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<v Speaker 1>we all know, the Trump campaign was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an improvisation. I could say that an improvisation. And

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people that were affiliated with an associate

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<v Speaker 1>with the Trump campaign. And this also goes to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the never Trump sentiment. You know, all the

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<v Speaker 1>in the political world, the so called best and brightest

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<v Speaker 1>and most connected, we're not going to work for Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>At the beginning. I know because I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those folks. They were running over to the Rubio

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<v Speaker 1>and Cruise campaigns and Jeb Bush, although Jeb Jeb exclamation

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<v Speaker 1>point fizzled out pretty quickly. But it was Rubio and

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<v Speaker 1>Cruz that were attracting the political high rollers so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the early days, not Trump. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why Trump put such a premium on loyalty, because he

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<v Speaker 1>he was really able to see, you know, who's who's

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<v Speaker 1>with me? You know, it wasn't just who's with me

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<v Speaker 1>because you think I'm gonna win, Who's with me because

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<v Speaker 1>they believe? But that meant that there were other people

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<v Speaker 1>who were just opportunists, and Manafort was one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>right manaforts Like yeah, sure, Donald, like I'll come and

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<v Speaker 1>ride this way for a while with you. Why not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know? And if I'll do it for some shady Ukrainians,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it for you, right who cares well? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Manaforts in a in some trouble. Innocent until proven guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>but it looks like he's in a rough spot. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you get this other guy today, and I have to

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<v Speaker 1>read this to you, so I get to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I get all the specifics clear. The son in law,

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<v Speaker 1>according the Washington Post, here son in law of Russian

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well, here's what the opening paragraph is. The Dutch

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<v Speaker 1>son in law of one of Russia's wealthiest men pleaded

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<v Speaker 1>guilty Tuesday and Federal court in Washington to making false

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<v Speaker 1>statements in Special Counsel Mueller's probe of Russian interference in

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<v Speaker 1>the US presidential election. Alex van der Zwan was charged

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<v Speaker 1>with line to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that who served as a top official on President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's campaign and a longtime business partner of former campaign

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<v Speaker 1>chairman Paul Manafort. Based in London, Venders Juan worked for

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<v Speaker 1>the law firms Scatting Arts, very famous, very high end

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<v Speaker 1>uh law firm well known here in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of my law school buddies wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>work there, which worked with Maniford and Gates when they

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<v Speaker 1>served as political consultants in Ukraine. Uh So, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is thirty three years old and he's pleaded guilty to

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<v Speaker 1>a felony. We don't know what his punishment's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>He could serve up to six months in prison. But

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<v Speaker 1>now he's a convicted film which I would know what

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<v Speaker 1>means that at least under US law. I mean he's

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<v Speaker 1>a Dutch citizen. Under US law, he could uh not

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<v Speaker 1>practice law anymore as it convicted flans. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how that affects him in Europe, but who knows. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing he talked about when he last spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to Gates, and he was off by like a month.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're saying that, you know, that's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an ice facing a federal criminal charge. What does

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<v Speaker 1>this vendor's wound guy have to do with anything? Who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>But Mueller's just he's just out taking people down. You

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<v Speaker 1>you know, say what you will about this. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>look at this and not think, how does the Mueller?

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<v Speaker 1>How do Mueller's tactics compared to the FBI's tactics with

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary's emails. Just always keep that in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>your mind and I think you'll understand what's really work here.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which Flynn, was Flynn ambushed? Did they stack

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<v Speaker 1>the deck? Did they cheat to get Flynn's scalp. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that in just a few minutes. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of reporting on Russia collusion last few days.

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<v Speaker 1>There's this whole indictment of the thirteen guys tied to

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<v Speaker 1>the troll factories and the sock puppet maneuvers, all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you've seen on Facebook, what we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>here on the show. But there's something else that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the legal world right now that touches on these

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<v Speaker 1>investigations over Russian interference and theoretical collusion and all this

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff that has to do with the status of

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<v Speaker 1>General Michael Flynn's plea plea do you? So, let's bring

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<v Speaker 1>on somebody who has particular inside in this. We have

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<v Speaker 1>Margot Cleveland with us. She is a senior contribute to

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<v Speaker 1>the Federalist and a lawyer who served nearly twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years as a career law clerk for federal Apple appellate

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<v Speaker 1>judge and and AGC professor in the College of Business

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<v Speaker 1>at University of Notre Dame. And you are involved in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, Margot, Well, I'm involved in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been researching it after I started seeing the media

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<v Speaker 1>just ignore all of these problems that have been coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I dug into it more, I realized that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a huge issue of whether or not in

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<v Speaker 1>the plea agreement there was information with help from Flynn.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold On, let me just tell everybody what the title

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<v Speaker 1>of Margot's pieces here, It's how a plea re per

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<v Speaker 1>soul from Michael Flynn could uncover more federal corruption. Margot,

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<v Speaker 1>I read your whole piece. It's really interesting, I think

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<v Speaker 1>very important. I'm somebody who it's very agitated about the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of federal overreach and prosecutorial misconduct, and this seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's at least possible right now and trending towards

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<v Speaker 1>likely that there's something going on here with this. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you walk us through what's what what may in fact

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<v Speaker 1>be the case with this Flynn plea deal, and why

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing it that way? Okay, sure, So after he

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<v Speaker 1>put guilty. Within a week, the judge who accepted his

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<v Speaker 1>guilty plea was taken off the case and a new

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<v Speaker 1>judge was given the case, which by itself, that was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty mysterious. Usually if there's a procusal, it would happen

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<v Speaker 1>before they accept a plea deal. So that was the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that kind of came out as weird. And then, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was last week there was a ending order that

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<v Speaker 1>was entered in the case and it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I took a look at it, and it required

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<v Speaker 1>the government to turn over any exculpatory evidence to Flynn.

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<v Speaker 1>And at that point it was actually a revised standing order.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge had done it back in December, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was. And when I looked at a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know what, if there is this evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that's not out there, this judge has given the green

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<v Speaker 1>light that this is the basis to withhold the guilty play,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to withdraw a guilty plate. Now whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not the government withheld evidence, I don't know. We'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait to see what comes out. But you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to keep in mind who the players are in the

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<v Speaker 1>Flynn case. So we had that FBI duel the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who were texting back and forth, and one of those

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<v Speaker 1>was the individual who had actually interviewed Flynn, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what he was charged with line to the FBI on

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<v Speaker 1>So you look at that, and he originally, the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>agent had originally said he didn't think Flynn was lying.

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<v Speaker 1>Mure set he didn't think Flynn was lying. But then

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<v Speaker 1>Flynn gets indicted on this. So can you how could

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<v Speaker 1>that be possible? Margot? I mean, you've got how could

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<v Speaker 1>some FBI d o J officials think that someone did

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<v Speaker 1>not lie and then that person is charged with lying

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<v Speaker 1>for the circumstances under review. That just seems you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how much faith can we put in the process when

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<v Speaker 1>one FBI guy goes, no, there's no lie and another says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lie, right, And and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>part that's really concerning, that you have those statements and

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<v Speaker 1>then he gets charged. Now it could be that they

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<v Speaker 1>had more evidence that contradicted something he said in the

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<v Speaker 1>interview that came out later, or that showed that he

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't forget the scenario that was that was some

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<v Speaker 1>of the testimony, that he didn't recall something, or the inconsistent,

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<v Speaker 1>see would be something that maybe he forgot, so who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they discovered something else. But when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>all the players that were involved in this, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff coming out that is throwing questions

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<v Speaker 1>about their credibility. And if this comes forward, now the

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<v Speaker 1>government has to turn over the savidence. And it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like that Flynn took the plea deal before he was

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<v Speaker 1>given some of this exculpatory evidence. So again we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know yet what this evidence is. But the judge who said,

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<v Speaker 1>on this case, excuse me, who is currently honest? Judge Sullivan? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Sullivan. Yeah, he's He's a very interesting guy with

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<v Speaker 1>some of his previous decisions too. He is not friendly

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<v Speaker 1>to the government playing games with this exactly. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the judge who when he discovered the withholding of evidence

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<v Speaker 1>in Steven's in the in the Senator to Steven's case

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<v Speaker 1>in Alaska, right, exactly exactly, he was irate. He ordered

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<v Speaker 1>an investigation. He did not tolerate it. So if there

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing, I will absolutely trust Sullivan. So if Sullivan

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<v Speaker 1>comes out and it clears it, I have no concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about the flint component of it is it is it

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<v Speaker 1>a settled matter? And we're speaking to Margot Cleveland. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>senior contribute to the federalist and she's a lawyer, Margot,

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<v Speaker 1>is it a federal is a federalist? Sorry? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>settled law that you if you take a plea deal

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<v Speaker 1>exculpatory evidence that it's found later does not matter? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that work? So essentially forever listening, if they the

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<v Speaker 1>Feds come to me and say you're looking at five years,

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<v Speaker 1>or you plead guilty today and you'll get a six

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<v Speaker 1>month suspended sentence, and if it came out you know

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks after that that the Feds actually knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was innocent all along. Does that matter? It depends on

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<v Speaker 1>where you are. This is an issue that is not

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<v Speaker 1>resolved in the court yet. And that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I found interesting about Judge Fullisan standing order.

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<v Speaker 1>But the lower courts are actually is split on this.

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<v Speaker 1>The Supreme Court has never said whether or not withholding

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<v Speaker 1>exculpatory evidence in a plea case will result in the

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<v Speaker 1>plea being thrown out. If it's withheld and you go

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<v Speaker 1>to trial, you get a new trial. But in a

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<v Speaker 1>plea case, the courts have different views but this is

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<v Speaker 1>where it's key Judge Sullivan. Sullivan's view is that you

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<v Speaker 1>must turn this evidence over, and if you don't, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a basis for a plea to be withdrawn. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a district court judge in d C. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are at least two, if not three, district court cases

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<v Speaker 1>in d C that have held that. And again that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the key points that I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make in this in this article, trying to take the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mushy legal stuff and make it pretty clear

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<v Speaker 1>that in his court, if they withheld material exculpatory evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a basis to withdraw a plea. So

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<v Speaker 1>if it does get with drawn, we're going to know

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<v Speaker 1>there's some problems there. But if it does get withdrawn,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Margot, I know you're you're you're a lawyer's

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<v Speaker 1>you're keeping it right on the straight and error here,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna come out and say, if they withdraw

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<v Speaker 1>the plea, it's because Flynn was getting hosed and this

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<v Speaker 1>was a setup. That's what that means to me. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to agree with that, but that's how I see, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that's necessarily the case. Flynn might

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<v Speaker 1>have planned for valid reasons, maybe he knew he did

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong, or he might have planed for invalid reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that he was concerned about what it would do to

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<v Speaker 1>his family and the long process, So it could have

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<v Speaker 1>gone one way or the other from a personal standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>And then how how often does it defend in the

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<v Speaker 1>federal case change a guilty plea unless there's new information

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<v Speaker 1>that would change the status of their I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>how I've never heard of that happening. Well, it actually

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<v Speaker 1>happens where they try to do it a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>and usually it's not these high profile cases. But from

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<v Speaker 1>my perspective, the bigger issue if he would draw us

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<v Speaker 1>the plea is that the evidence was withheld. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of look at it two ways. There's the

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<v Speaker 1>Flynn matter of him personally, and then there's a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of what does this say about the prosecutors involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the case. And I think the second issue is the

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<v Speaker 1>one that has broader ramifications. Obviously to Flynn it matters,

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<v Speaker 1>but the broader ramifications if he is able to withdraw

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<v Speaker 1>the plea is that this process was corrupted. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. It would seem to me pretty

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<v Speaker 1>clear that we're dealing with a bunch of prosecutorial headhunters here,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not a good thing when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>an open ended, massive special counsel investigation. Oh. Absolutely, And

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<v Speaker 1>and just to clarify, what I mean is Flynn could

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<v Speaker 1>have done something wrong, whether or not the prosecutors were

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<v Speaker 1>good or bad. But the problem of the plea going

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<v Speaker 1>through in this context is it is showing that there

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<v Speaker 1>would be broader corruption if this providence was withheld. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to make one more point here that

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<v Speaker 1>this is really tying into the whole Phis A Court process,

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<v Speaker 1>which really triggered my interest in this when I read

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<v Speaker 1>the House memo that came out and then the Grassly

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<v Speaker 1>Grand memo. The process of the five A Court was

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<v Speaker 1>completely abused from what they said in those memos, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a couple of articles on that that you

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<v Speaker 1>can take a look at it the federalists. But this

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<v Speaker 1>all is going to a broader problem with how the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice is handling things, or I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>select individuals. And to me that shocking because I've known

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<v Speaker 1>some U S. Attorney's assistants, attorneys who have the most integrity,

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<v Speaker 1>and to me, this is what is the most disturbing

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But when we saw from the Ted Stevens thing,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Senators Ted Stevens, if that doesn't happen, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we probably don't have Obamacare. For everybody listening,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of federal prosecutors knew that he had expeltatory

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<v Speaker 1>evidence and they hit it. It was terrible exactly. They

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<v Speaker 1>literally were like, oh, we know this guy is innocent,

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<v Speaker 1>let's nail him anyway because he's got in our next

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<v Speaker 1>to his name and he's a senator from Alaska. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened there. Margot Cleveland, everybody check out her piece

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<v Speaker 1>how a plea reversal from Michael Flynn could uncover more

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<v Speaker 1>federal corruption. It is really compelling reading. It's up on

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<v Speaker 1>the Federalist dot com. Margot, please stay with it and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have updates, we would love to have you

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<v Speaker 1>back to explain what's going on here. Okay, great, sounds wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, Thanks so much, Margot. Alright, team, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna roll into a break. We come back. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk with our friend Sean Davis about what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with the various fixes that are or whether

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<v Speaker 1>the fixes or not, the various actions that people are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about on guns in the as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>the tragedy and Florida. We'll get into that more. Stay

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<v Speaker 1>with me, Welcome back everyone. So we have been talking

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about guns here in the Freedom Hunt because

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<v Speaker 1>of what happened in Florida. This is the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the national policy discussion right now. It's not immigration, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even Russia right now. It is in fact, guns,

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<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment, gun control, what to do about school shootings.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are proposals now on the table. Unlike in

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<v Speaker 1>some previous shootings, there are at least real ideas that

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<v Speaker 1>are being forward and not by everyone, but by some,

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore we should spend some time looking at them

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<v Speaker 1>and judging them on their merits. And to help us

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<v Speaker 1>do that now we have Sean Davis. He is co

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<v Speaker 1>founder of The Federalist. The Federalist dot com is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite commentary sites. You guys should all be

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<v Speaker 1>quite familiar with it. Shawn's the co founder and he

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<v Speaker 1>joins us now. Sean, thank you so much, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. Can you just let's let's work through

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the the biggest takeaways in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of policy from the horrible tragedy in Florida. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I can throw some of your way Sean also, if

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<v Speaker 1>there's any I'm leaving out, but I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>start with, what do you think about age restrictions for

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<v Speaker 1>buying an A R. I'm seeing that get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of play. I think they're utterly silly, devoid of information

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<v Speaker 1>on who's responsible for the bulk of mass shootings, and

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, fundamentally at odds with what we know

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<v Speaker 1>about how criminals work and about how human nature works.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, rost out that at the New York Times said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, because all these shooters are young men,

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't let anyone under thirty by an a R fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>which number one. It's just it's so silly. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many other guns out there that are are more powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>have a bigger range, better terminal ballistics, and yet d

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<v Speaker 1>a R has captured UH gun controllers imagination for some reason.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other issues, looking at the actual data

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<v Speaker 1>of who commits mass shootings in the US, you would think,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at news coverage that it's always alienated young men, teenagers,

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<v Speaker 1>early twenties, and that's just not the case. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the majority fifty five percent of mass students in this

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<v Speaker 1>country are committed by middle aged men. Men between the

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<v Speaker 1>ages of thirty and fifty is the majority of mass

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<v Speaker 1>shootings in the US. So these age based restrictions, they

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<v Speaker 1>are their wild attempts to try to come up with

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<v Speaker 1>some way, somehow to ban this gun or that gun,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're just not rooted in the reality of what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the You've made a number of points

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody should keep in mind, but the the the

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<v Speaker 1>one that sticks out the most for me is that

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<v Speaker 1>this would not go to the heart of the problem

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not even necessarily going to legally never mind

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<v Speaker 1>their illegal possession of weapons, which we know is always

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<v Speaker 1>also an issue that comes in here, but too legally

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<v Speaker 1>possessed weapons. People in the age range of mass shooters,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be plenty of them that will be able

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<v Speaker 1>to get them. As you said, so people over thirty

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<v Speaker 1>are engaged in plenty of mass shootings too, So that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't stop the problem. Okay, So that one doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like it that that falls in that category for me, Shaun.

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<v Speaker 1>If people say, well, how big a deal is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I would also point out that there's no way it

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<v Speaker 1>would stop at just the a R fifteen because the

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<v Speaker 1>you ban or you you have an age based restriction

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<v Speaker 1>for the a R. People would rightfully say, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really that different from a lot of other rifles,

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<v Speaker 1>and then bam, you'd have a list of like fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to rifles minimum right there. There's no saving a gun

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<v Speaker 1>controller um, because you know, once you get grant the

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<v Speaker 1>principle that it's okay to band this gun or that

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<v Speaker 1>gun or this calibra, that caliber, there's no limiting principle

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Um. And I guess we've talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 1>My big complaint with this debate is it's not actually

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<v Speaker 1>about guns. It's not about gun control. What we are

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<v Speaker 1>having is a debate with guns is proxies about human nature.

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<v Speaker 1>In the nature of man. There are people on one

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<v Speaker 1>side of the debate who thinks that if you congest

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<v Speaker 1>regulate these tools have the right mix of laws, you

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<v Speaker 1>can regulate out of the heart of man an inclination

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<v Speaker 1>or ability to do evil. And then on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side you have people who say, you know what, people

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<v Speaker 1>have been murdering each other for the entirety of human history. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going back to the very beginning, and the

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<v Speaker 1>most wicked, devastating tool of death that has ever been

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<v Speaker 1>devised is the wicked human heart. And rather than pretending

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<v Speaker 1>like we can just put these things under lock and

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<v Speaker 1>key and then bad people won't want to do bad things,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should give good people the ability to defend

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<v Speaker 1>themselves against the bad people. The whole debate, I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree with with everything that you just deserted.

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<v Speaker 1>I would also add to it that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>guns becomes also an ideological proxy battleground for the cultural

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<v Speaker 1>left and the right that it's just a way of showing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the people and Blue strongholds coastal areas and

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats strongholds of the country, they don't like people who

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<v Speaker 1>own guns. They actually they think that people who own

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<v Speaker 1>guns are roobs and hillbillies and their gross and so

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the reasons why it becomes such

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<v Speaker 1>an emotional issue for them, because it's a way of throwing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, throwing some stuff at the other guys. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's exactly right. It's it's a cultural chivalist

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<v Speaker 1>um and in fact, in a lot of quarters, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in media, you know, we mock people on the left

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<v Speaker 1>for not knowing the slightest thing about guns and just

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<v Speaker 1>messing up in embarrassingly bad ways, basic stuff like at

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<v Speaker 1>one point USA Today said a hot new accessory creation

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<v Speaker 1>the chains I knew you're gonna go with the chainsaw

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<v Speaker 1>on the rail system. That's my favorite too. How can

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<v Speaker 1>I not go after the chainsaw? Theyonet so, but they

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<v Speaker 1>that ignorance is almost a badge of a badge of courage.

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<v Speaker 1>It signifies that they are not going to solely themselves, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but by getting into the mud with these icky, knuckle

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<v Speaker 1>dragging buck tooth hillbilly gun clingers, and you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>they are so much more high minded they don't even

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<v Speaker 1>need to learn about I've said this and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>happy that someone someone agrees with me. Sean, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying that it is viewed as an issue where it's

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<v Speaker 1>the only issue I know of in journalism where to

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong is actually to score points among your own

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<v Speaker 1>because it shows your disdain for the issue. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's the equivalent of if a of the announcer ever

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<v Speaker 1>brings somebody on TV and doesn't have their name right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the most one oh one thing ever, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can assume that a lot of times they would

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<v Speaker 1>only do it because I don't even care to know

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<v Speaker 1>this person's name with the gun with the anti gun

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<v Speaker 1>crowd in journalism, they didn't even care to know the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between automatic and a semi automatic because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter because they're all bad. That's actually the mentality they have.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, it is, and they'll get mad at you

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<v Speaker 1>if you nitpick them on stuff like that, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know this was a Ruger versus a Rimington's,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't regulate guns that when it's actually no.

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<v Speaker 1>The last time you tried this, you regulated guns by

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<v Speaker 1>feature and you put stupid features on there that had

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely nothing to do with anything, and then patted yourselves

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<v Speaker 1>on the back for having done a real good job.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, one of the people who backed that

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<v Speaker 1>fault weapons ban, Carolyne McCarthy New York, was asked on

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<v Speaker 1>National TV about one of those cosmetics features that was

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<v Speaker 1>listed and banned in the law, and it was with

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Carlson. He said, okay, you you banned a barrel

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<v Speaker 1>for out what's the barrel shroud? And she himmed in

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<v Speaker 1>hod it was appeared she had no idea what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally she said, oh, it's the shoulder thing that

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<v Speaker 1>goes up. Like, you can't have people with that level

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<v Speaker 1>of knowledge writing into law specific definitions that banned this

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<v Speaker 1>thing or that thing. You actually have to know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing, just as you wouldn't want a mechanic who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know the difference between a ranch and a screwdriver

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<v Speaker 1>taking apart your engine. It's just dumb. And also let

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<v Speaker 1>me that these bands they put in place, people can

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<v Speaker 1>get arrested for this stuff. I think that's often lost here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like we're no longer offering this product at

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<v Speaker 1>your local CDs or something. If they put a magazine

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<v Speaker 1>ban in place in a certain state, they will arrest

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<v Speaker 1>people for that there. And in looking back again at

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties four law, they had things on there like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it has a bayonet lug, not even

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<v Speaker 1>a beyonet, a bayonet lug, it's ban. Or if it

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<v Speaker 1>has a muzzle break or a collapsible stock, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what people did to get around it is they

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<v Speaker 1>would pen and weld the stock, and then they would

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<v Speaker 1>pen and weld level device under the barrel cut off

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly it's compliance. The gun functionally was no difference than

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<v Speaker 1>it was before. I want to ask you. We're speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to Sean Davis of The Federalist, Everybody's co founder of

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<v Speaker 1>the Federalist. You can check out his latest on the website.

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<v Speaker 1>UM one that that is getting a lot of attention.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think is a is a good faith

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<v Speaker 1>effort and at least worthy of discussion. Well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they're all worthy discussion, but worthy of perhaps further investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Is David French in National Review. Although he said it's

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<v Speaker 1>not his idea, he's forwarding the proposal for a temporary

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<v Speaker 1>restraining order for the purchase of firearms. What say you,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Davis, and correct me if I'm wrong. He was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about related to mental health. Correct, yes, sorry, So

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<v Speaker 1>I should have explained it. So it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a temporary straining order based on a mental health

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<v Speaker 1>adjudication to prevent somebody for a period of time for

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<v Speaker 1>forgetting a gun. They'd have to go in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a cord. There obviously be some So this was essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a version of a much because it's very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody adjudicated mentally incompetent, which is a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>because we actually don't want people to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>be locked away unless there's very good reason. But this

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<v Speaker 1>would be to say, hey, look, the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have a gun because of a domestic violence

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<v Speaker 1>conviction in the past, or if you've ever been the order,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever been under a protective order? I believe

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<v Speaker 1>there's also some restrictions in some states. UH in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>if the people around you think you're nuts, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go before a judge that they can say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you for this period of time, no gun for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I like David French a lot. I know

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<v Speaker 1>where he's coming from. UM. In principle, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with his idea. I think that's fine. In practice,

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<v Speaker 1>I have lots of concerns because it's there's just so

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<v Speaker 1>many things that go into the details of that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to re required, what's the evidentiary standard, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your ability UM to go and argue your own case

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<v Speaker 1>in court. If it turns out a bunch of co

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<v Speaker 1>workers or neighbors who are mad at you, UM have decided,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't like these gun humps, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get this guy's guns taken away, but assuming it

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<v Speaker 1>could all be done in a good faith way where

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<v Speaker 1>you can mitigate or eliminate the the chances of chicanery

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<v Speaker 1>or revenge based targeting of gun owners. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with it. I think that I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>totally fair what I wish we would do, however, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than everyone trying to come up with clever new laws

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<v Speaker 1>to put on the books, I really do wish we

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<v Speaker 1>would enforce the laws that we have now, because what

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<v Speaker 1>we had in Florida was a kid who told me

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<v Speaker 1>envisited thirty nine times he had put on YouTube that

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to shoot up at school. All his classmates

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<v Speaker 1>knew it, the FBI knew it, and they did nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>So what on earth is a new law going to

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<v Speaker 1>do when you have a regime which we saw in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida where all of the warning signs were there, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knew this guy was a ticking time bomb and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think about it. Jean, is there anything that you

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<v Speaker 1>think that really was there anything that's at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of your list before we let you go, that you

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<v Speaker 1>think should be done here in response to the shooting? Yeah? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, um, knowing what we do about each cowards

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<v Speaker 1>to love targeting defense with people who can't shoot back, um,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what we do about that. Maybe we should stop

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<v Speaker 1>making our schools completely defenseless and soft targets. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>should give teachers and employees and administrators who are already

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<v Speaker 1>licensed by the state to carry a concealed weapon. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone through extra training. You're already trusting these people

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<v Speaker 1>with your children all day long. It's about time we

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<v Speaker 1>give people who are already trained and licensed to do

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff the right to protect the children under their

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<v Speaker 1>charge while they're at school. Let's stop broadcasting to these

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<v Speaker 1>evil cowards so they can go into these gun free

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<v Speaker 1>zones and turn them into free fire zones and start

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<v Speaker 1>sending the message that if you set foot on this

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<v Speaker 1>campus with a gun intent on doing harm, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to put you down. Sean Davis, co founder of the Federalists.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out the Federalist dot com for more of their writing. Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>always appreciate you make the time. My friend talks soon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pleasure, sir. Thank you say we're gonnaroll into

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. Will be right back. So I see

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<v Speaker 1>that Jay Law was initially reported, and for those who

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<v Speaker 1>are not into this kind of stuff, I'm assuming that

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<v Speaker 1>a very small percentage of this audience subs ribs to

1:31:00.439 --> 1:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>People magazine or reads US weekly. My only connection to

1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:06.479
<v Speaker 1>pop culture is Miss Molly. She keeps me informed, so

1:31:06.520 --> 1:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't say things like, you know, who are who

1:31:10.160 --> 1:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>are the Kardashians again or whatever. She makes sure that

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<v Speaker 1>I know what's going on in the world other than

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<v Speaker 1>politics and national security and political philosophy and whatnot. But

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out that Jay law Jennifer Lawrence, actress of

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<v Speaker 1>many films, is not taking a break from acting for

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<v Speaker 1>the I initially thought she was, and I came on,

1:31:29.880 --> 1:31:32.719
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, oh no, because you know, truth

1:31:32.800 --> 1:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>be told him kind of a jailaw fan. You know,

1:31:36.800 --> 1:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate, I celebrate her whole catalog. I think it's

1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it's got a nice, nice body of work. Um. And

1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>yet here we are being told in advance that we

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<v Speaker 1>can expect there to be some politics coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>Miss ms Lawrence the next year because activism to celebrities,

1:31:56.600 --> 1:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they never do activism. That's not at least I never

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<v Speaker 1>hear about. Maybe that's a better way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never hear about activism that isn't in the realm

1:32:05.560 --> 1:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>of progressive virtue signaling. Why can't we have more celebrities

1:32:10.040 --> 1:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>whose activism is I want to, you know, raise lots

1:32:13.800 --> 1:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>of money for charter schools in the inner city. I

1:32:16.760 --> 1:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>want to raise lots of money for uh A specific

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<v Speaker 1>cancer research program or whatever it is, all these good things.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I'd like to see more really

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<v Speaker 1>big name celebrities out there that are are raising money

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, St. Jude's. Why is it that we

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<v Speaker 1>always have these celebrities that are global warming I got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to international summits and talk about global warming,

1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>or you know, it's it's always a transgender rights global warming,

1:32:45.720 --> 1:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>just something that's in the progressive vanguard. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>so much more respect for what they're doing if they

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<v Speaker 1>leverage their celebrity for something that was just clearly of

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<v Speaker 1>public benefit and not some form of brand enhancement for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when you do things like you know, Leonardo DiCaprio

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<v Speaker 1>with this whole climate change thing. The guy's literally flying

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<v Speaker 1>around the world on his private jet to go to

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<v Speaker 1>climate change meetings. You know, talk about this and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not to be mean, but I mean, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think the guy. I think it's unlikely the guy has

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<v Speaker 1>like a tenth grade reading level, and yet he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lecture the whole world on the most among the most

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<v Speaker 1>complicated scientific issues facing the international community today. Although I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's really I don't think the answer is

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<v Speaker 1>that complative. The answer is we don't really have to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, and it's gonna be fine. But I know

1:33:38.280 --> 1:33:41.439
<v Speaker 1>people yell at me for that. Don't use the paper bags, buck,

1:33:41.640 --> 1:33:48.040
<v Speaker 1>don't use them. Why what's gonna happen? The earth will mouth? Uh? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So Jay Law is gonna be doing activism next year.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that today. She's good. I mean, I like

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Law. Not not quite as good as Jessica Biel,

1:33:57.520 --> 1:33:59.839
<v Speaker 1>but she's close. You know, they're they're in a similar

1:34:00.479 --> 1:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>similar category. Um, And I'm gonna switch out to George

1:34:03.840 --> 1:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Clooney before I get myself into trouble. And George Clooney

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<v Speaker 1>is also talking about doing more politics. Now they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even Clooney twenty. Now here's the thing about that,

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<v Speaker 1>And just this is not a knock on the Trump presidency.

1:34:20.360 --> 1:34:26.559
<v Speaker 1>It's just a statement of reality. Until now, when a

1:34:26.920 --> 1:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>well known celebrity said he or she was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>running for the presidency. It was an understandable reaction for

1:34:35.479 --> 1:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us to just say, oh, that's a

1:34:40.120 --> 1:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>version of brand enhancement, right, this is a lot of

1:34:42.920 --> 1:34:46.479
<v Speaker 1>free press, and you know, they'll get their name out there.

1:34:47.120 --> 1:34:49.760
<v Speaker 1>But remember, if we're gonna be honest about it. When

1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was first running in this twenty six cycle,

1:34:52.600 --> 1:34:55.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people said that about Trump. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. I remember that White House corp White House

1:34:58.240 --> 1:35:01.280
<v Speaker 1>or was it the White House cor Respondence dinner where

1:35:01.320 --> 1:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>Obama made a Trump joke or was it the other Yeah,

1:35:05.000 --> 1:35:07.479
<v Speaker 1>I think like the Smith dinner. I forget what it's called. Anyway,

1:35:07.479 --> 1:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>they made a joke about Trump, you know what I'm

1:35:09.360 --> 1:35:11.479
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Yeah, they made he made some joke about Trump.

1:35:11.520 --> 1:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Obama did, and Trump was just like, oh really, it

1:35:14.040 --> 1:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>was the correspondence dinner. Yeah, that's right. And and Trump

1:35:18.000 --> 1:35:22.439
<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh really, oh really. And then later

1:35:22.439 --> 1:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>when he started to run, people were like, this is

1:35:24.960 --> 1:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>all a publicity stunt. Well, clearly it wasn't. Because he's

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<v Speaker 1>now the president of the United States. That just means

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<v Speaker 1>that when you've got a celebrity, now whether it's Clooney

1:35:34.560 --> 1:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>or Oprah or any of them. You are in a

1:35:38.640 --> 1:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>position where you gotta at least look at it on

1:35:41.200 --> 1:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the merits and say, okay, maybe maybe what would George

1:35:46.040 --> 1:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Clooney be a formidable political candidate? I'm not sure, but

1:35:50.400 --> 1:35:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't say definitely not because the guy looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a political candidate, which unfortunately means a lot these days

1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:00.639
<v Speaker 1>because of our mass media environment. It's all chain so much,

1:36:00.680 --> 1:36:03.800
<v Speaker 1>hasn't it. You know, did anybody in like eighteen eighty

1:36:03.920 --> 1:36:06.320
<v Speaker 1>know what the president even looked like or sounded like.

1:36:06.439 --> 1:36:08.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean a few people did, but for the most part,

1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:11.479
<v Speaker 1>you voted for a platform. You have some rough idea

1:36:11.479 --> 1:36:13.639
<v Speaker 1>of what you know this guy or that guy stood for.

1:36:13.720 --> 1:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you heard him at a speech, you know. I

1:36:16.439 --> 1:36:18.679
<v Speaker 1>mean back in the day, the presidents were like doing

1:36:18.680 --> 1:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>their own dry cleaning, and it was a very different,

1:36:20.680 --> 1:36:24.479
<v Speaker 1>very different environment. Now it's all about mass media. Now

1:36:24.479 --> 1:36:30.639
<v Speaker 1>it's all about the propaganda involved here, and uh, well,

1:36:30.640 --> 1:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>it's propagand if you think it's a bad thing, it's

1:36:32.880 --> 1:36:35.519
<v Speaker 1>just public relations. If you think it's a good thing,

1:36:36.720 --> 1:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>but you have celebrities that are gonna increasingly get an

1:36:38.880 --> 1:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>apolot there's no question about it. They're gonna get into politics.

1:36:41.800 --> 1:36:46.439
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be a result of Trump's success, just a

1:36:47.040 --> 1:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>side effect, you could say, of a reality TV star

1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:54.080
<v Speaker 1>what she was, who is now the commander in chief

1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and the leader of the free world. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that j Law is gonna go quite in that direction,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'd be I'd be torn, you know, there's a

1:37:01.320 --> 1:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>part of me that would be like, come on, Jay Law,

1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>we can make you a conservative. Yet, although I'm sure,

1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure her politics are very progressive and annoying, and

1:37:09.360 --> 1:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with some level of that. I'm all right

1:37:11.520 --> 1:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>with people that have their own beliefs and thoughts but

1:37:15.439 --> 1:37:19.280
<v Speaker 1>aren't too aggressive about mixing the platform they have for

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, in this case, acting with their political political

1:37:24.720 --> 1:37:27.559
<v Speaker 1>prescriptions for the rest of us. But we know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not how it goes That's not how it goes down.

1:37:29.439 --> 1:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>They always they always try to, oh I'm at the oscars,

1:37:32.760 --> 1:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>let me make my political speech now, right, It's not

1:37:35.000 --> 1:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like they're generally separating these things out. So we'll see

1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Jane Law, Clooney, probably some others out there are going

1:37:42.080 --> 1:37:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to get into the game too. We'll see where all

1:37:43.880 --> 1:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>this ghost team. Um, we're gonna talk to you about

1:37:47.760 --> 1:37:50.639
<v Speaker 1>stress in a moment. Got some thoughts on it. Stay

1:37:50.640 --> 1:37:53.479
<v Speaker 1>with me. I like to share a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom that I've acquired in my thirty six years on

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<v Speaker 1>this earth. A lot of you were like, yeah, whipper snapper,

1:38:01.000 --> 1:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>double that number and then listen to your wisdom. But nonetheless,

1:38:03.400 --> 1:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that I have picked up some things. Maybe

1:38:06.000 --> 1:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm sharing it for my my younger millennials, my not

1:38:09.120 --> 1:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>yet gray bearded millennial listeners, and some others. But one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I've I've come to understand as

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<v Speaker 1>I get older, is that it is on you as

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<v Speaker 1>an individual to figure out what works for you in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of managing stress. I don't think there's nearly enough

1:38:26.840 --> 1:38:29.519
<v Speaker 1>that is talked about. There's nearly enough talk in our

1:38:29.560 --> 1:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>society about this specific issue. And when you look at

1:38:34.200 --> 1:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>any number of ailments out there, you see that stress

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<v Speaker 1>is a direct contributor and in some cases, I would

1:38:42.280 --> 1:38:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I would argue the root cause of some of the

1:38:45.080 --> 1:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>problems that you see out there. I mean, stress obviously goes.

1:38:49.240 --> 1:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Cardiac events are related to stress, and heart heart disease

1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and UH and cancer are still you know, the two

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<v Speaker 1>big lethal diseases that we have to worry about in

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<v Speaker 1>this country, but stresses in everyday life, and it's really

1:39:07.880 --> 1:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>important to get a sense of how you can manage

1:39:09.960 --> 1:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>it yourself. I just I'm thinking about it because the

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<v Speaker 1>average American, according to this study that was linked up

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<v Speaker 1>on the Drudge Report today, the average American has sixty

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<v Speaker 1>bad days a year according to the survey, which means

1:39:21.600 --> 1:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you spend two months a year thinking that you're having

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<v Speaker 1>a bad day. So it's it's more than just having

1:39:28.360 --> 1:39:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a case of the mondays, because that would be fifty two, right,

1:39:32.240 --> 1:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's so you get you're averaging over we the

1:39:35.880 --> 1:39:40.639
<v Speaker 1>American people are averaging over one bad day each week.

1:39:41.439 --> 1:39:45.240
<v Speaker 1>And eighty percent of those twenty four hour periods that

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<v Speaker 1>are ranked in this survey as stressful are from work

1:39:48.360 --> 1:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>related stress, which I would have assumed. There's other stuff

1:39:51.960 --> 1:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>too that are that are cited in the study illness,

1:39:54.360 --> 1:40:00.280
<v Speaker 1>financial worries, feeling unclean or disheveled. Now, I've had some

1:40:00.360 --> 1:40:03.559
<v Speaker 1>days where I felt unclean or disheveled in the office

1:40:03.600 --> 1:40:06.479
<v Speaker 1>that ruined my day in my previous career before media,

1:40:06.920 --> 1:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>but I have to tell you that those were self

1:40:09.160 --> 1:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>induced um, I had no one to blame but myself

1:40:12.800 --> 1:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>for wearing the same clothing to the office the next day.

1:40:15.920 --> 1:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>The headache that I may or may not have been

1:40:18.200 --> 1:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>nursing was the result of active decision making on my part.

1:40:22.680 --> 1:40:26.280
<v Speaker 1>And while I may have been in throbbing and lingering

1:40:26.439 --> 1:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>pain for the day at the office, in my earlier days,

1:40:30.080 --> 1:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it was worth it. I'm just saying there were

1:40:32.120 --> 1:40:34.680
<v Speaker 1>times when it was. It was an even trade off, right.

1:40:34.720 --> 1:40:37.959
<v Speaker 1>It's like misery at work, keeping the waste paper basket

1:40:38.000 --> 1:40:42.240
<v Speaker 1>close and still worth it, still worth it. Not anymore

1:40:42.320 --> 1:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>now I'm like, oh my gosh, somebody, somebody tries to

1:40:45.040 --> 1:40:47.080
<v Speaker 1>get me to drink more than two glasses of anything.

1:40:47.120 --> 1:40:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh god, come on, what's going on here.

1:40:50.120 --> 1:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm a I'm a lightweight, but it is

1:40:53.000 --> 1:40:54.720
<v Speaker 1>what it is. You got you gotta understand who you are.

1:40:54.960 --> 1:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, know thyself to thine own self be true,

1:40:57.920 --> 1:41:01.599
<v Speaker 1>said the buffoon halona Us in Hamlet. People always think

1:41:01.600 --> 1:41:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Hamlets said it. No, you know who you know who

1:41:03.600 --> 1:41:07.800
<v Speaker 1>corrected us as a country on that one share from Clueless.

1:41:08.000 --> 1:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>That's why we all know that line now, see very

1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>important movie. So anyway, so you get sixty seven per

1:41:14.439 --> 1:41:20.720
<v Speaker 1>cent of an individual's uh se percent rather of an

1:41:20.760 --> 1:41:23.639
<v Speaker 1>intervitor's dissatisfaction or any given day was related to sleep.

1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>You gotta get enough sleep. This is you know. My

1:41:26.960 --> 1:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>parents told me this growing up all the time, and

1:41:29.360 --> 1:41:31.679
<v Speaker 1>they were totally right. And I would stay up super

1:41:31.800 --> 1:41:32.800
<v Speaker 1>late and then I have to get up. And I

1:41:32.840 --> 1:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>remember going and going into my high school and just

1:41:36.800 --> 1:41:39.400
<v Speaker 1>feeling day after day like I was in some zombie

1:41:39.439 --> 1:41:41.519
<v Speaker 1>state of about to fall over any minute. Its because

1:41:41.560 --> 1:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't getenough of sleep. I go to bed, like

1:41:43.200 --> 1:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to two o'clock in the morning. Mom's listening, She's like, really,

1:41:46.040 --> 1:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you're up that late. Yeah. Sometimes I would just stay up.

1:41:48.520 --> 1:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Parents are go to bed, like watch TV, watch HBO

1:41:51.920 --> 1:41:54.439
<v Speaker 1>at two am. There was some interesting stuff on HBO

1:41:54.439 --> 1:41:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a two am. So anyway, I would stay up super late.

1:41:57.280 --> 1:42:00.320
<v Speaker 1>It's really really bad for you. We all have this us.

1:42:00.800 --> 1:42:04.920
<v Speaker 1>We all have our our achilles heel, whether it's financial,

1:42:05.000 --> 1:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>whether it's just dealing with workplace situations, or any number

1:42:09.360 --> 1:42:11.439
<v Speaker 1>of things. How you manage it is one of the

1:42:11.479 --> 1:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>most important things in life. It really is, I mean

1:42:15.320 --> 1:42:20.360
<v Speaker 1>not important on an existential being, a virtuous, worthwhile person level.

1:42:20.360 --> 1:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>But important on a how you're taking care of yourself,

1:42:24.720 --> 1:42:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and I finally taken care of yourself. It is so

1:42:26.400 --> 1:42:28.720
<v Speaker 1>very very important. I used to think certain things were

1:42:30.280 --> 1:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little frivolous or oh no, no, no, You've

1:42:33.920 --> 1:42:36.439
<v Speaker 1>got to find what whether if you gotta get some

1:42:36.520 --> 1:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>outdoors time to paint, if you gotta watch birds, if

1:42:39.439 --> 1:42:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you The main thing they talk about in here is

1:42:41.760 --> 1:42:44.360
<v Speaker 1>actually getting to the gym, which I know all of

1:42:44.439 --> 1:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>us are like, uh gosh, I mean I have the

1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>same thing. I'm like, I gotta go to the gym.

1:42:49.320 --> 1:42:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a hamster on a wheel, a hamster

1:42:52.800 --> 1:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>that you know shouldn't have eaten so many bacon cheeseburgers

1:42:55.280 --> 1:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>this week that all said, I've never left the him,

1:43:00.200 --> 1:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and I always trying to remind myself of this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the struggles that I have day day

1:43:05.160 --> 1:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to day. I've never gone to the gym and left

1:43:07.360 --> 1:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the gym, been like I wish I hadn't done that,

1:43:10.040 --> 1:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>And yet and yet every day I'm like, I'm kind

1:43:12.920 --> 1:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>of tired. I got a lot of I got a

1:43:14.439 --> 1:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>radio show to get ready for. I don't think I

1:43:16.120 --> 1:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>really want to do this. Probably the most important single

1:43:19.200 --> 1:43:22.240
<v Speaker 1>stress relief you can do and and in fact, ah,

1:43:22.800 --> 1:43:26.280
<v Speaker 1>sleeping is is critical, right, Sleeping is really really really essential.

1:43:26.360 --> 1:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>And that means also if you have to take catchup

1:43:28.200 --> 1:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>naps the next day, twenty minute naps. They've done a

1:43:30.600 --> 1:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of study on it, really really important. You don't

1:43:33.200 --> 1:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>have to call it a CS tho. We don't have

1:43:34.600 --> 1:43:36.479
<v Speaker 1>to make this some big cultural event, you know, it

1:43:36.520 --> 1:43:40.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily have to involve uz uzo and like lying

1:43:40.800 --> 1:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>out in the sun by the beach, although that sounds

1:43:43.120 --> 1:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>really nice actually now, but like it doesn't have to be.

1:43:45.160 --> 1:43:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of Greek he has to the only place

1:43:48.040 --> 1:43:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I've ever really spent much time where they had that.

1:43:49.800 --> 1:43:52.720
<v Speaker 1>But um, the other thing that you should keep in

1:43:52.720 --> 1:43:55.240
<v Speaker 1>mind is that for people actually who are older now,

1:43:55.760 --> 1:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>they are finding more and more that weight bearing exercise

1:43:59.600 --> 1:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>is critical, really good for your for your sense of

1:44:05.240 --> 1:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>well being, really good for your physical and for your

1:44:07.880 --> 1:44:10.760
<v Speaker 1>mental health. I think that we haven't yet made this

1:44:10.800 --> 1:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>switch as a culture because people think of weight training

1:44:13.200 --> 1:44:16.760
<v Speaker 1>generally as some guy who like has no knack who's

1:44:16.800 --> 1:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>in the gym and is trying to lift some giant thing.

1:44:19.640 --> 1:44:21.519
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't have to be heavyweights. But it's just

1:44:21.640 --> 1:44:26.040
<v Speaker 1>resistance training for older people. And so anybody fifty five

1:44:26.080 --> 1:44:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and above, resistance training means you're gonna be you know,

1:44:30.560 --> 1:44:34.519
<v Speaker 1>limber and spry and energetic and on it longer. And

1:44:34.560 --> 1:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the research on all this is very compelling. So and

1:44:38.400 --> 1:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>it also is really helpful for dealing with stress people.

1:44:42.360 --> 1:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And this survey also said they have a drink when

1:44:44.040 --> 1:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>they're really stressed. You know, sometimes sometimes you've got to

1:44:47.720 --> 1:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>sit back and have a a glass of whatever your

1:44:50.200 --> 1:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>favorite is. You know, it's all about it's all about moderation.

1:44:53.560 --> 1:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe the ancient Greeks referred to it as metron,

1:44:55.960 --> 1:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>a state of perfect balance. They tried to achieve this

1:44:58.960 --> 1:45:04.160
<v Speaker 1>in all things physically, philosophically. Oh yes, sometimes you just

1:45:04.200 --> 1:45:07.760
<v Speaker 1>bring ancient Greece into a conversation because and I think

1:45:07.800 --> 1:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I just did that. But it is important to achieve balance.

1:45:11.080 --> 1:45:13.800
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just saying, we're all stressed folks. We've all

1:45:13.800 --> 1:45:16.599
<v Speaker 1>got our stuff, family, stress, work, stress, everything else. If

1:45:16.600 --> 1:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got less than sixty rough days a year, you're

1:45:20.000 --> 1:45:22.800
<v Speaker 1>doing well. According to this study, most folks have about

1:45:22.840 --> 1:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>sixty bad days a year, and regardless of whether it's

1:45:27.040 --> 1:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a hundred bad days, or ten bad days. How you

1:45:29.240 --> 1:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>deal with them is just critical because I'm telling you know,

1:45:33.000 --> 1:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>because constructive ways of relieving stress means you'll have fewer

1:45:37.760 --> 1:45:40.280
<v Speaker 1>bad days. I don't care what the sign says in that,

1:45:40.320 --> 1:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I just know that that's true. So some some free

1:45:45.560 --> 1:45:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Graybeard millennial life wisdom on the show today. We are

1:45:48.680 --> 1:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>going to run into a quick break and we'll be

1:45:51.200 --> 1:45:54.439
<v Speaker 1>right back. Well. I tend not to talk about the

1:45:54.520 --> 1:45:57.120
<v Speaker 1>weather here on the show because you've got a lot

1:45:57.120 --> 1:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of other radio stations that do that. But I'm just

1:45:59.080 --> 1:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna gloat for us second that it is uh so

1:46:03.479 --> 1:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous right now in New York City. I think it's

1:46:06.720 --> 1:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>in the high sixties right now. I mean it is.

1:46:08.880 --> 1:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>It is crazy warm in this town, which for this

1:46:12.800 --> 1:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>time of year feels is very very very unexpected. I'm

1:46:16.800 --> 1:46:19.160
<v Speaker 1>hoping that wherever you're listening across the country, you also

1:46:19.240 --> 1:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe took the chance to go outside and see if

1:46:23.920 --> 1:46:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you could enjoy a little white zin. You know, yeah,

1:46:27.880 --> 1:46:30.840
<v Speaker 1>at sixties six degrees here in New York, so you know,

1:46:30.840 --> 1:46:33.320
<v Speaker 1>across the country, I'm assuming it's got to be pretty warming.

1:46:33.360 --> 1:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Some places, I think, oh yeah, we're getting crushed with

1:46:36.200 --> 1:46:38.880
<v Speaker 1>like a winter storm in a couple of days. That

1:46:38.880 --> 1:46:41.439
<v Speaker 1>sounds about right. Yeah, that's what I thought. I was

1:46:41.479 --> 1:46:43.759
<v Speaker 1>all happy for a moment here. I was gonna maybe

1:46:43.760 --> 1:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>go up to the roof of my building tonight. And

1:46:46.640 --> 1:46:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it also makes me want to make snarky remarks about

1:46:49.439 --> 1:46:52.479
<v Speaker 1>global warming. One of the problems that I've always had,

1:46:52.560 --> 1:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Never mind the inaccuracies around the previous predictions and all

1:46:56.040 --> 1:46:59.599
<v Speaker 1>the hysteria of people who are just so deeply, deeply

1:46:59.640 --> 1:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>concerned earned with global warming, I'm still flabbergasted. Fun word

1:47:05.800 --> 1:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that we should throw around more that when you ask

1:47:08.320 --> 1:47:10.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody of the stature of say Melinda Gates of the

1:47:10.880 --> 1:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the richest people in the

1:47:15.240 --> 1:47:17.519
<v Speaker 1>world or in the top two or three. I think

1:47:17.600 --> 1:47:20.479
<v Speaker 1>sometimes depending on how what kind of day Bezos is having,

1:47:20.479 --> 1:47:23.599
<v Speaker 1>he may be number one, but among the very richest

1:47:23.600 --> 1:47:26.439
<v Speaker 1>people in the world. And you ask Bill and the

1:47:26.479 --> 1:47:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Lindia Gates with their biggest concern is and they're trying

1:47:28.520 --> 1:47:33.240
<v Speaker 1>to deal with h diseases like malaria and others, and

1:47:33.320 --> 1:47:35.640
<v Speaker 1>sure enough you'll find out that it is it is

1:47:35.680 --> 1:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>climate change that is their number one concern. Speaking to

1:47:39.040 --> 1:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine about this, earlier today. I just

1:47:41.000 --> 1:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe it, he said there, and I'm like, wow,

1:47:44.720 --> 1:47:49.040
<v Speaker 1>people at that level, with that access to expertise and

1:47:49.080 --> 1:47:54.439
<v Speaker 1>knowledge and information, and sure enough, but it would be nice.

1:47:54.520 --> 1:47:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Or the reason I bring this up is that much

1:47:57.280 --> 1:48:00.800
<v Speaker 1>of the country would be in great shape if it

1:48:00.880 --> 1:48:04.240
<v Speaker 1>got an average of two or three degrees a year warmer.

1:48:04.680 --> 1:48:06.720
<v Speaker 1>And people say all the seas would rise. We got

1:48:06.720 --> 1:48:09.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of land will be all right. Land has

1:48:09.760 --> 1:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>been shifting continuously, as we know, over time, and there

1:48:14.160 --> 1:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>is no such thing as a perfect temperature. There's no

1:48:17.200 --> 1:48:20.920
<v Speaker 1>such thing as global homeostasis. To bring back a word

1:48:21.080 --> 1:48:23.759
<v Speaker 1>from anatomy class, which is your body trying to maintain

1:48:23.800 --> 1:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>an equilibrium homeostasis. It's fun to throw it out there sometimes, like, hey,

1:48:29.200 --> 1:48:33.559
<v Speaker 1>how are you feeling? I hit my homeostasis today. Oh really,

1:48:34.080 --> 1:48:36.800
<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, I did. Anyway, it's warm here.

1:48:37.720 --> 1:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not global warming, but it will be fine with

1:48:40.080 --> 1:48:42.920
<v Speaker 1>me if it were. Uh. So there you have it,

1:48:43.000 --> 1:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, Let's get to some Let's get some roll call. Please,

1:48:49.040 --> 1:48:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Team Buck, it's time for roll call. I love our

1:48:53.360 --> 1:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>voiceover guy. His voice is awesome roll call. So let's

1:48:57.960 --> 1:49:02.880
<v Speaker 1>get it going here. Uh, Daniel writes in with the following, Hey, Buck,

1:49:03.439 --> 1:49:05.719
<v Speaker 1>are there going to be more episodes of Shields High?

1:49:05.840 --> 1:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>The fourth step fourth episode was the last one I

1:49:08.080 --> 1:49:11.679
<v Speaker 1>listened to back in January. I've been itching to hear more, Daniel.

1:49:11.720 --> 1:49:14.360
<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes. The problem is there's just not

1:49:14.520 --> 1:49:17.519
<v Speaker 1>enough Buck to go around these days. I'm I'm running ragged,

1:49:17.640 --> 1:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>as they say, trying to keep up with all my

1:49:19.479 --> 1:49:23.439
<v Speaker 1>various responsibilities and obligations. And Shields High as a labor

1:49:23.479 --> 1:49:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of love. I just put it out there because I

1:49:26.840 --> 1:49:29.720
<v Speaker 1>like it and and you have asked for it, and

1:49:29.800 --> 1:49:33.240
<v Speaker 1>that's why we It's a it's an additional product that

1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>we've done here in the Freedom Hunt, and it's just

1:49:35.400 --> 1:49:38.240
<v Speaker 1>out there for people to listen to and folks to

1:49:38.360 --> 1:49:40.439
<v Speaker 1>enjoy and who believe in the brand. I'm actually gonna

1:49:40.439 --> 1:49:43.040
<v Speaker 1>be speaking to a friend this week, someone I work with,

1:49:43.080 --> 1:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>about whether we might be able to find an even

1:49:45.240 --> 1:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>better home for it on buck Sexton dot com, and

1:49:48.040 --> 1:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the idea being that then I could also add links

1:49:50.439 --> 1:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and reading material and make it a really more fully

1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:59.400
<v Speaker 1>interactive experienced photos and or really paintings, not photos of paintings. Right,

1:49:59.400 --> 1:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no photo graphs that I know of in the

1:50:01.720 --> 1:50:05.760
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth century at least. Uh no photographs back then, and

1:50:06.000 --> 1:50:09.160
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, So thank you for your your question about it,

1:50:09.200 --> 1:50:11.559
<v Speaker 1>and I know I'm I really enjoy doing it too.

1:50:11.600 --> 1:50:13.160
<v Speaker 1>But as you can imagine, it takes up quite a

1:50:13.160 --> 1:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>bit of time. And the more you guys spread it

1:50:14.920 --> 1:50:16.840
<v Speaker 1>around we look at the numbers, the more folks listen

1:50:16.920 --> 1:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to it and and share it and interest there is

1:50:19.680 --> 1:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the easier days for me to ask the bosses here

1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:26.479
<v Speaker 1>to let me devote time and resources to it. Glenn,

1:50:27.160 --> 1:50:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Glenn is the next up at bad Here Netflix, Amazon

1:50:30.720 --> 1:50:36.559
<v Speaker 1>suggestion Longmire is great, but have you tried Justified? Timothy

1:50:36.600 --> 1:50:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Oliphant is the star, although the co star, Walton Googin's

1:50:41.920 --> 1:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>his character Boyd, is great. I think it is on

1:50:45.120 --> 1:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime. Yes, I can tell you, Glenn, I have

1:50:47.800 --> 1:50:51.280
<v Speaker 1>tried Justified. I got a few episodes in and did

1:50:51.280 --> 1:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>not finish it for reasons that I cannot think of

1:50:54.760 --> 1:50:58.719
<v Speaker 1>right now. I probably just got distracted with something else. Um,

1:50:58.760 --> 1:51:00.679
<v Speaker 1>but I've heard very good things and what I saw

1:51:00.800 --> 1:51:02.679
<v Speaker 1>was very good, so I'll probably go back and check

1:51:02.720 --> 1:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it out again. It had a great pilot, which is

1:51:05.720 --> 1:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>so essential both in getting a show made from a

1:51:08.920 --> 1:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>production standpoint, and then in drawing people in to listen

1:51:13.080 --> 1:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to it. Uh. Next we get Michael here with oh,

1:51:16.840 --> 1:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>but thank you, I would not for the for the suggestion.

1:51:19.600 --> 1:51:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Miss Molly and I are are going back and forth

1:51:21.520 --> 1:51:25.679
<v Speaker 1>now between the marvelous Mrs Mazel, which I highly recommend, Brandon,

1:51:26.360 --> 1:51:28.360
<v Speaker 1>uh and Mike. But Mike's not here right now in

1:51:28.400 --> 1:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the room. Have you seen it? No, I'm telling you

1:51:31.920 --> 1:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that you have Netflix right yeah. Oh no, it's on

1:51:34.640 --> 1:51:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime. Do you have Amazon Prime? No? See, that's

1:51:37.240 --> 1:51:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the thing I would recommend the marvelous Mrs Mazel to

1:51:40.560 --> 1:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>any of you are listening. It's Uh, it's fun for me,

1:51:44.000 --> 1:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>especially because a lot of it is filmed in and

1:51:45.680 --> 1:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>around places I know in New York City. Ah. Then

1:51:48.760 --> 1:51:52.599
<v Speaker 1>there's also Ozark, which I'm liking more than I thought

1:51:52.640 --> 1:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I would. If you liked Breaking Bad, as I said,

1:51:55.120 --> 1:51:57.760
<v Speaker 1>you have to check out Ozark. I really should get

1:51:57.800 --> 1:52:00.559
<v Speaker 1>like Netflix to sponsor the show. I'm like a Netflix fiend,

1:52:00.880 --> 1:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>old books, Netflix and take out food. That's pretty much

1:52:04.400 --> 1:52:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the center of my fun wheelhouse. That's that's what gets

1:52:07.320 --> 1:52:11.120
<v Speaker 1>me going. Oh and coffee, of course, black rifle coffee.

1:52:11.520 --> 1:52:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like garths sometimes in Wayne's World, when he's

1:52:13.880 --> 1:52:16.519
<v Speaker 1>got the spot, he's got all the sponsor gear on. Yeah,

1:52:16.560 --> 1:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that's right. We were in bed. You need copeat sponsors.

1:52:19.120 --> 1:52:21.559
<v Speaker 1>He's covered in reebok And that's one of the great

1:52:21.600 --> 1:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Waynes World is a great movie too. Um, but I

1:52:24.120 --> 1:52:26.639
<v Speaker 1>do drink black rifle. I love it, and I love coffee.

1:52:26.960 --> 1:52:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Next up here is James. Um. I've been solving New

1:52:31.840 --> 1:52:35.280
<v Speaker 1>York Times styled cross words for about four decades. One

1:52:35.320 --> 1:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>of the most frequently used abbreviations uh in the grades

1:52:39.479 --> 1:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>is n r A. Clueing comes off as Second Amendment defenders,

1:52:44.120 --> 1:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Warren Lapierre's organization, peace loving Group, etcetera. I've practically written

1:52:49.200 --> 1:52:51.439
<v Speaker 1>in n r A over three to five written in

1:52:51.600 --> 1:52:54.759
<v Speaker 1>pardon me, over three to five thousand times in the grids.

1:52:55.520 --> 1:52:57.760
<v Speaker 1>That's that seems like a lot. So my question to

1:52:57.800 --> 1:53:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you is can I expect to see n r A

1:53:00.200 --> 1:53:03.559
<v Speaker 1>reclude or use less often in the puzzles? Why can't

1:53:03.560 --> 1:53:05.559
<v Speaker 1>the New York Times be more likely more like the

1:53:05.640 --> 1:53:11.479
<v Speaker 1>daily twenty square inches of decency of plumb, thought, provoking, ingenuity, etcetera. Uh,

1:53:12.040 --> 1:53:14.799
<v Speaker 1>great job on your show, Buck and shields high, James,

1:53:14.800 --> 1:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I have a confession to make. I have never done

1:53:17.920 --> 1:53:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a crossword puzzle in a newspaper I think. Ever, it's

1:53:22.080 --> 1:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>actually just not something I've ever done. So I have

1:53:24.479 --> 1:53:28.040
<v Speaker 1>no knowledge, background, or insight to offer on this whatsoever.

1:53:28.080 --> 1:53:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not a crossword puzzle guy. I did play

1:53:32.080 --> 1:53:35.240
<v Speaker 1>some chess growing up, so I enjoyed chess, and I'm

1:53:35.439 --> 1:53:38.280
<v Speaker 1>better at chess than I let on. I always downplay,

1:53:38.360 --> 1:53:40.519
<v Speaker 1>like I can barely play because I like to hustle people.

1:53:40.560 --> 1:53:43.360
<v Speaker 1>You could call me a chess shark. That means that

1:53:43.720 --> 1:53:48.479
<v Speaker 1>you know I wear like a shiny leather, shiny leather

1:53:48.600 --> 1:53:51.840
<v Speaker 1>vest and a pocket protector at the same time. Yeah,

1:53:51.920 --> 1:53:55.640
<v Speaker 1>what's up, chess shark? Uh? But anyway, I was I

1:53:55.680 --> 1:53:58.439
<v Speaker 1>was thinking of one of those those jackets that people

1:53:58.520 --> 1:54:01.439
<v Speaker 1>used to wear and like the seventies that are I

1:54:01.479 --> 1:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I is it vinyl. I don't know if

1:54:03.080 --> 1:54:05.240
<v Speaker 1>it's whatever it is. I was trying to, like, like

1:54:05.439 --> 1:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>with the wide collar and the big chain and everything

1:54:07.920 --> 1:54:09.880
<v Speaker 1>with leisures. Yeah, like a leaser, So I got a

1:54:09.960 --> 1:54:13.800
<v Speaker 1>leaser shoe. Well, lease your suit while I'm playing chess.

1:54:13.800 --> 1:54:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So therefore I also wear my pocket protector because I

1:54:15.680 --> 1:54:19.120
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get ink stains in my shirt pocket. Yeah.

1:54:19.240 --> 1:54:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Next up we have uh Jen who is Oh? Jen

1:54:25.400 --> 1:54:27.200
<v Speaker 1>is asking me if I can do an interview for

1:54:27.240 --> 1:54:31.479
<v Speaker 1>her international TV news outlet. Well, um, I don't know, Jen.

1:54:31.600 --> 1:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I just saw this now, so let me get back

1:54:33.600 --> 1:54:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to you in a few minutes. I don't even know

1:54:35.920 --> 1:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>what this is, what this is talking about. I'll have

1:54:38.480 --> 1:54:41.240
<v Speaker 1>to check this. Sometimes this happens, folks. Producers reach out

1:54:41.280 --> 1:54:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to you on Facebook and they're like, hey, you want

1:54:44.680 --> 1:54:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to come to The BBC tends to do that. So

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I see the BBC writing me on Facebook, it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they missed Sexton. Just wondering perhaps you could give us

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes of your time to come on the radio

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<v Speaker 1>show later. We're hoping you can give this a former

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<v Speaker 1>Central Intelligence age see Perspective on the following I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>BBC emails are read in my head in that voice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I just assume that's how they go. So, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Paul Paul's writing into chied me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. That's okay, Paul, remember the team you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I want friendly and constructive criticism to just not all

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<v Speaker 1>caps profane criticism. But Paul writes in in very very

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<v Speaker 1>friendly manner. Change the narrative, Buck, quit talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian collusion, and start talking about the Trump economic success. Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly try to do that, and I will keep

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do that. So let's just say that I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the helpful reminder. Without my friends, Freedom Hunt is

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<v Speaker 1>closing up for the day. Thank you, as always for

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<v Speaker 1>being here until next time, which is tomorrow. Shields High