WEBVTT - Tech News: In Pennsylvania, Robots are People Too

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech. But you can call

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<v Speaker 1>me Techno King. I hear that that that title is

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<v Speaker 1>actually already taken. This is the tech news for Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>March twenty one. An internet security company called e set

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<v Speaker 1>that's e s e T reports that several well funded

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<v Speaker 1>hacking groups, perhaps as many as six, we're actively exploiting

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<v Speaker 1>the zero day vulnerabilities in the Microsoft Exchange Server product.

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<v Speaker 1>I reported on this problem last week, and now it

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<v Speaker 1>appears as though it's gotten much more serious than it

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<v Speaker 1>was first reported. Previously, micros often said it had detected

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese backed hacking group Halfnium, that that was the

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<v Speaker 1>group that had taken advantage of the vulnerabilities in the software.

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<v Speaker 1>Set says it wasn't just Halfnium, but also hacker groups

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<v Speaker 1>called calypso w, Nitty Group, web Sick, Lucky Mouse, and Tick.

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<v Speaker 1>The Register reports that a cybersecurity researcher in Taiwan with

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<v Speaker 1>the handle orange Sigh discover the vulnerability way back on

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<v Speaker 1>December and had even built an exploit that would give

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<v Speaker 1>a hacker the ability to perform a remote code execution

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<v Speaker 1>attack on a targeted system with the vulnerable software in place.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that security speak, that means it would give hackers

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to run processes on a targeted computer. So

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<v Speaker 1>you could compromise a machine and then have it execute

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<v Speaker 1>other code and thus get even further control over the device.

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<v Speaker 1>Orange Side had actually built out such a potential attack

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<v Speaker 1>vector by January one, But this hacker wasn't actually looking

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<v Speaker 1>to cause damage. Instead, it was to see if those

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerabilities could be exploited in this way. They could, so

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<v Speaker 1>he reported his discovery to Microsoft on January five, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he worked with Microsoft employees to draft a report

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<v Speaker 1>that was then sent to the company's primary security partners

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. That was sent out on February twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, half of the hum exploited those same

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerabilities way back on January three, and a second wave

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<v Speaker 1>of attacks happened five days after Microsoft sentence report, So

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<v Speaker 1>the timing raises some questions. As pointed out in the register,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible that all of these groups independently found the

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<v Speaker 1>same vulnerabilities and exploited them. It's also possible that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of cooperation between those groups of hackers,

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<v Speaker 1>or it might even be possible that the later five

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<v Speaker 1>hacking groups learned about the vulnerability from the February twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three report, or maybe even we're spying on the the

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft team and Orange Size as they were drafting their report.

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<v Speaker 1>We just don't know the timing. But whatever the case,

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<v Speaker 1>it was bad. Something odd happened on Twitter over the weekend. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>many odd things frequently happened on Twitter, but in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it was that the word Memphis became the city that

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<v Speaker 1>must not be named or something like that. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you did sendella tweet that contained the word Memphis in

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend, you got hit with a twelve hour suspension.

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<v Speaker 1>Naughty you. Now, according to those who got hit with this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can call it an over the top reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>The word was somehow triggering Twitter's moderation policies, specifically in

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<v Speaker 1>regards to rules against posting private information to Twitter. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, you're not supposed to post someone else's address

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. That's against the rules. Twitter cleared things up

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<v Speaker 1>in a tweet of their own stating that quote, A

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<v Speaker 1>number of accounts that tweeted the word Memphis were temporary

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<v Speaker 1>limited due to a bug. It's been fixed and the

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<v Speaker 1>accounts have now been restored. We're sorry this happened. End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>And here I was thinking that it was Belgium that

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<v Speaker 1>was the rudest word in the universe. Thanks Douglas Adams,

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<v Speaker 1>he steered me wrong again. Heading over to Facebook, Reuter's

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<v Speaker 1>reports that the company has begun adding labels to posts

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to discussing the safety of the various COVID vaccines,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon they are going to extend this labeling system

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<v Speaker 1>to all posts about the COVID vaccines in general. It

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<v Speaker 1>will also launch a vaccine tracking tool to help people

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States find where they can go to

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<v Speaker 1>get vaccinated once they are eligible. Previously, Facebook came under

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<v Speaker 1>fire due to the proliferation of misinformation about vaccines that

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<v Speaker 1>spread across the platform, much in the same way as

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation campaigns affected political discourse in the United States in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty And this is really a big move in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways because Facebook has long maintained a very

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<v Speaker 1>stand office approach when it comes to handling misinformation campaigns

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<v Speaker 1>In general, but in particular ones against vaccines, not just

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<v Speaker 1>COVID vaccines, but all vaccines. So the new labels include

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<v Speaker 1>messaging that explains that these vaccines go through rigorous testing

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<v Speaker 1>before they're ever deployed to the public, and they represent

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<v Speaker 1>a safe course of action, particularly compared to not getting

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<v Speaker 1>the vaccination. Now, the company is also building out its

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<v Speaker 1>list of banned false claims about the COVID vaccine and

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<v Speaker 1>the disease in general, and as such has removed around

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<v Speaker 1>two million additional posts from Facebook and Instagram as result

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<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of months. And uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy one. The company says it's now pulling back

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<v Speaker 1>on the reach of users who have been flagged for

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<v Speaker 1>posting false information repeatedly. Now, who could have thought that

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<v Speaker 1>by turning off the amplify signal on a message you

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<v Speaker 1>could reduce its overall impact on people. I get the

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<v Speaker 1>whole freedom of speech thing, but it's not just freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of speech. It's that Facebook, like I said, amplifies messaging,

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<v Speaker 1>and by taking that move to reduce that, that's a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge thing. As for vaccines, I sincerely hope everyone out there,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone out there who can get it goes and gets

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<v Speaker 1>it so all of you folks out there, when you're eligible,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're able to go and get the vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as possible. I registered to be notified when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm eligible. I'm in Georgia. Our state is dead last

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States when it comes to vaccination, so

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<v Speaker 1>not huge hopes that's going to happen super fast for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did register for it. Now, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>history with severe allergic reactions, so I have some concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about getting it, but I plan on getting my vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>in a medical center of some sorts so I can

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<v Speaker 1>at least be under observation in case I go into

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<v Speaker 1>ani fyl axis, because trust me, that's not fun at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm still gonna get it because we do need

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<v Speaker 1>to get to herd immunity and protect each other. It's important.

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<v Speaker 1>So y'all stay safe out there, Okay, be careful, get

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<v Speaker 1>vaccinated when you can, and hey, I love you, so

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<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself. The U. S. Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>announced an indictment against the CEO of sky Global, Jean

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<v Speaker 1>Francois EEP, as well as Thomas Herdman, a former Sky

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<v Speaker 1>Global distributor. Now the d o J is accusing these

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<v Speaker 1>two of having facilitated the development, sale, and distribution of

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<v Speaker 1>special encrypted phones to international drug traffickers in violation of

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<v Speaker 1>the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act or RICO. Now, essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>the d o J is saying, you guys create a

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<v Speaker 1>way for criminals to communicate with one another in a

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<v Speaker 1>secret and secure way, and that means your complicit in

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<v Speaker 1>helping them commit crimes. But those accusations actually go beyond that.

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<v Speaker 1>They allege that sky Global wasn't just providing the communication infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>but also allowing for money laundering activities, primarily in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of cryptocurrency transactions. On top of that, the d

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<v Speaker 1>o J states that sky Global set up numerous shell

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<v Speaker 1>companies to try and hide what was going on. So

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<v Speaker 1>if these allegations are true, I believe we really should

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<v Speaker 1>see justice served against those who are responsible. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>me worries that this is also an attack on encryption

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<v Speaker 1>in general. That's something that various law enforcement agencies around

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<v Speaker 1>the world have targeted in various ways, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>sort of understand from their perspective, right, encryption makes it

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to suss out what people, including criminals, are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also provides protection against governments or government agencies

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<v Speaker 1>or gigantic private companies that might otherwise abuse the rights

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<v Speaker 1>of citizens and others. So, in other words, criminals might

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<v Speaker 1>use encryption, but encryption isn't a crime now. I say

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<v Speaker 1>that only so that we keep an eye on this

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<v Speaker 1>story to see how the legal argument shapes up against

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<v Speaker 1>sky Global, to make sure that we're not seeing an

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to undermine encryption as a valid approach in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. Router's reports that India is poised to pass

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<v Speaker 1>a law that would make it illegal to mine, trade, transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>or possess private cryptocurrencies, while leaving the door open for

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<v Speaker 1>a state backed digital currency. An earlier version of this

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<v Speaker 1>bill had even suggested a jail sentence of around ten

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<v Speaker 1>years for violating the law, though as I record this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unclear whether or not that penalty made it into

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<v Speaker 1>the more recent version of the law. It is not

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<v Speaker 1>available for public review. Now. Should this law pass, and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it's going to, Indian citizens will have

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<v Speaker 1>a grace period of about six months to liquidate their

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<v Speaker 1>digital wallets or face penalties. At the time I record this,

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency transactions are way up in India, where it's estimated

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<v Speaker 1>that investors hold about one point four billion dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>of cryptocurrency. But I should stress that is just an

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<v Speaker 1>estimate because there's virtually no hard data available to make

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<v Speaker 1>a more firm claim than that. It sounds as though

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<v Speaker 1>investors are determined to stick with cryptocurrency, at least until

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<v Speaker 1>the bill becomes official. Now, at that point, are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to see a massive move to sell off cryptocurrency

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so, how will that affect the value of

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<v Speaker 1>currencies like bitcoin? All of that remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And while some leaders in India have likened cryptocurrency to

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<v Speaker 1>ponzi schemes, I think that might be going a bit

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<v Speaker 1>too far. Yeah, there are a lot of ponzi schemes

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<v Speaker 1>that lean on the public's general lack of understanding about cryptocurrencies.

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<v Speaker 1>But the value of cryptocurrency is at least as real

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<v Speaker 1>as other kinds of money is, I guess, though I

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<v Speaker 1>would still argue it's not really terribly useful as a

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<v Speaker 1>currency due to the volatility of bitcoin. Tender, the dating app,

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<v Speaker 1>is about to get a new feature, match Group, the

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<v Speaker 1>company that owns Tender, as well as Hinge Okay, Cupid,

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<v Speaker 1>and Match has announced that it has invested in a

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<v Speaker 1>background check platform called Garbo. As described on the Garbo website,

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<v Speaker 1>the company is quote a new kind of background check

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<v Speaker 1>designed to help proactively prevent gender based violence in the

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<v Speaker 1>digital age end quote. Garbo itself is a not for

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<v Speaker 1>profit organization founded by women, and the goal is to

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<v Speaker 1>provide access to public reports and records that could indicate

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<v Speaker 1>that it's most definitely time to swipe left on that

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<v Speaker 1>perspective date. Those records include stuff like criminal records like

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<v Speaker 1>arrests and convictions, and what or not the person has had, say,

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<v Speaker 1>a restraining order filed against them in the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>other data like that that makes it clear that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not looking at mr right, You're looking at Mr. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy is seriously bad news. However, Garbo reps have also

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged there are disparities to take into account when scraping

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<v Speaker 1>the internet for signs that your possible date has had

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<v Speaker 1>a brush with the law. Here in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no denying that there are systemic iniquities in the

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<v Speaker 1>justice system, and as a result, people of color are

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<v Speaker 1>disproportionately affected by these flaws. To that end, Garbo has

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<v Speaker 1>said that they would take that into account and strikes

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like charges of drug possession out of the equation,

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<v Speaker 1>so those are not factored into reports. Those disproportionately affect

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<v Speaker 1>people of color. As of right now, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>integration on TENDER yet, so it's impossible for me to

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<v Speaker 1>say what form this is going to take once it

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<v Speaker 1>is implemented. But beyond the lookout for that, a group

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<v Speaker 1>of scientists, including University of Arizona researcher Jacken Thonga, have

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<v Speaker 1>proposed an interesting project, and it involves sending examples of

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<v Speaker 1>sperm and egg cells from more than six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half million species of animals to the Moon, along with

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of different types of seeds. It's similar to something

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<v Speaker 1>we already have here on Earth. This val Barred Seed Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in Norway, keeps hundreds of thousands of seeds

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<v Speaker 1>safe in an effort to ensure biodiversity on the planet.

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<v Speaker 1>As regents cut back on biodiversity, there's an increased risk

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<v Speaker 1>that a disease or blight could wipe out enormous populations

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<v Speaker 1>of plants. Because they're all essentially the same plant, they

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<v Speaker 1>all have the same lack of ability to withstand certain

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<v Speaker 1>types of illness. Then if they get wiped out, all

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<v Speaker 1>the life forms that depend on those plants could suffer,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the ones that depend upon the animals that

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<v Speaker 1>depend on the plants, and so on. It goes up

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<v Speaker 1>the chain. But here's the problem with that. See Norway,

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<v Speaker 1>at least last I checked, is actually on Earth. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Earth is as the superhero the tick would say, where

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<v Speaker 1>we keep all our stuff? And if something truly calamitous

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<v Speaker 1>were to happen to the Earth, all of that would

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<v Speaker 1>be gone. Therefore, say these scientists, wouldn't it be a

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<v Speaker 1>great idea to establish a sort of vault on the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon to keep safe samples of various life forms, so

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<v Speaker 1>that should a true catastrophe occur, there will still be

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<v Speaker 1>samples that survivors of that catastrophe can retrieve to help

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<v Speaker 1>prepare the damage. The team suggests that we build a

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<v Speaker 1>vault within the lava tubes that are under the surface

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<v Speaker 1>of the Moon. These tubes have been dormant for billions

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<v Speaker 1>of years and completely untouched in the meantime. Donga estimates

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<v Speaker 1>that to establish this vault on the Moon would require

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<v Speaker 1>around two hundred fifty rocket launches, both to send up

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<v Speaker 1>all the various components to make up the vault itself

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<v Speaker 1>and the three five million samples that would be housed there.

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<v Speaker 1>The concept gets really science ACTIONI though it's all based

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<v Speaker 1>in science fact. So, for example, the storage temperatures needed

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<v Speaker 1>to preserve the samples would be so incredibly low, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like crazy cold, that metal itself would freeze, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes shelving a bit of a headache for storing all

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<v Speaker 1>these samples. So the researchers have proposed using superconductor material that,

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<v Speaker 1>when cool to these very very cold temperatures, can enter

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<v Speaker 1>into a type of magnetic lock when paired with a

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<v Speaker 1>permanent magnet, and you get quantum levitation. This is something

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<v Speaker 1>we can do here on Earth if you have access

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<v Speaker 1>to the right equipment. It's not easy to get hold of,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can do it, and it's really interesting. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of using superconductors as shelving tickles me quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. As it stands, this is all a proposal,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an actual project yet. Whether we ever see

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<v Speaker 1>a real series of missions to carry this out remains

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<v Speaker 1>to be seen. And finally, in Pennsylvania, robots are people too, well,

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<v Speaker 1>not really, but they are kind of sort of classified

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<v Speaker 1>as podest Trians. If they happen to be autonomous delivery drones.

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<v Speaker 1>The state has deemed it legal for delivery robots to

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<v Speaker 1>make use of sidewalks and pathways as well as roadways,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they will be considered as pedestrians from a

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<v Speaker 1>legal standpoint. That means it's officially legal for these robots

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<v Speaker 1>to share the road and sidewalks with human beings, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal because making robots that are safe

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<v Speaker 1>to interact in human spaces that have actual human beings

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<v Speaker 1>in them, and we human beings tend to be squishy, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really challenging field of robotics. It requires a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work to make the robots safer operation within

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<v Speaker 1>those spaces, as well as the designs to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>robots protected because you know, people are just the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Add to that the fact that humans can be distracted,

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<v Speaker 1>which means the robots might have to factor in someone

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<v Speaker 1>who isn't really paying attention as they walk down the sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've been guilty of that, Or the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that human beings can change their minds really quickly and

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<v Speaker 1>stop in place all of a sudden or change direction immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a lot of logical challenges you have to tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>But these rules that Pennsylvania is putting in place well

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<v Speaker 1>mean companies can at least operate their robots on the

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<v Speaker 1>sidewalks and such within certain parameters, like once a robot

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<v Speaker 1>gets particularly massive, it's no longer legally allowed on sidewalks.

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<v Speaker 1>But not everyone is a big fan of this idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I may have to do a full episode dedicated to this,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's an interesting challenge, not just from a tech standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>but also a legal standpoint and then a cultural standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of different factors at play here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll save that for a later episode. Well that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the top stories I have for you for Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>March one. I hope you guys are staying safe. Join

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