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Speaker 1: Good evening. This is Josh and for this week's select,

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Speaker 1: was acting up. Where was I? Oh? Yeah? For this

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Speaker 1: week's select, I've chosen a very spooky episode from two

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Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, How Vampires Work. Hopefully it will really boost

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Speaker 1: just want to include an apology at the outset to

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Speaker 1: all the Twilight fans out there. When this episode was recorded,

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Speaker 1: I hadn't fully adopted the concept of not yucking someone's yea.

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Speaker 1: And with all that said, from Chuck, Jerry, Dave, and me,

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Speaker 1: Happy Halloween. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production

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Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant sitting across

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Speaker 1: from me back in the saddle. Uh, and this is

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Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know yo, back in the satellite. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to explain that or should we just

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Speaker 1: leave it a mystery saddle? Well, with the metaphorical saddle

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Speaker 1: is in this case? Yeah? Well, um, you know, we

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Speaker 1: we've been here every week through the magic of um

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Speaker 1: digital recording. That's right, pre recording. We uh, we batch

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Speaker 1: recorded our episodes and covered ourselves. We built up what

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Speaker 1: steadily and faithfully while we've been off recording a TV show,

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Speaker 1: recording a TV show. That's right, our own TV show

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Speaker 1: where and you me pointing this out to me, how

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Speaker 1: cool it says we play ourselves. Yeah. I think that's

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Speaker 1: We would have failed miserably if we've done, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know, So why not? Yeah, why not elementary my

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Speaker 1: dear Clark. Yeah, um, but yeah, we have a TV

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Speaker 1: We're done. Yeah, we'll we'll really ramp up the plug

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Speaker 1: edge come December, but look forward in January on Science Channel.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't have Science Channel, go out and

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Speaker 1: purchase Science Channel. Yeah, and we are. We do not

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Speaker 1: until they do. That's right. Um? Okay, So Chuck, Yes,

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Speaker 1: just gonna personify he was a blood sucker or what.

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00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: But or maybe he just inspired him creatively. Who knows, Um,

420
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: But I bet someone knows more about this and I do.

421
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure, so right in and tell me, um,

422
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: and so Bram Stoker goes and he starts to do

423
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: some research and pokes around, and he finds a great

424
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: place to set this vampire tale is in Transylvania, which

425
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: is the heart of the Strigoy vampire. This is where

426
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: everything that we just talked about came together. Wallachia, Transylvania,

427
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: Romania is what we call it today. Um and uh.

428
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: And he he thought, well, this is just perfect. I'm

429
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: gonna set it there and let's see if I can

430
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: find somebody of that area how it can base this

431
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: vampire character on. And he came up with a guy

432
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: named Vladislav Bazzarrob. Yeah, that's a creepy name period, yea. Um,

433
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: but it would be even creepier. He was the prince

434
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: ruled Wallachia in the mid fourteen hundreds. Uh. Creepier is

435
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: that his father was Lad Vlad the Dragon or the

436
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: Devil and um. Vlad Jr. Was referred to as Vlad Dracula,

437
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: which is son of Dracula or Vlad Tepis or Vlad

438
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: the Impaler because, even though it's not verified, supposedly he

439
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: was a very fierce warrior. He would impale his victims. Okay,

440
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: I really feel like we should do um the real

441
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: Count Dracula episode sometime. Yeah, I wrote this awesome article

442
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: on it, and it is it's verified. It was there

443
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: a real countract. It's about Vlad Tepis, the Vlad the Impaler. Yeah,

444
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: because he just borrowed the name in the in the title, right,

445
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't really based on this guy who Count Dracula

446
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: brom Stoker's yes version, right, Vlad Tepis was probably far

447
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: far worse than um anything bram Stoker wrote about Count Dracula,

448
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: way worse. Yeah, yeah, his like it is verified, Like, yes,

449
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: he had all sorts of guys who were um against

450
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: him and who published extensively all these um like books

451
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: and pamphlets and all this stuff to smear his name.

452
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: But they got a lot of stuff, right, Yeah, Like

453
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: he was into some horrible stuff. He killed a lot

454
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: of people. Uh, he had a lot of people killed.

455
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: His armies killed a lot of people. He Uh, he's

456
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: probably like most rulers of the day. He was he

457
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: was worse. He was most likely worse than anybody else.

458
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: So he borrows this name in this title and social

459
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: standing as an aristocat aristocat great movie aristocrat. You know,

460
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: it's a naked woman in that um in that one

461
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: in the Aristocats, Yeah, the Disney cartoon. Yeah, that's the

462
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: one with the is that the one with the No,

463
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the Rescuers. I remember that there's a

464
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: naked woman in the Rescuers. Yeah, when they're flying through

465
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: the city. If you watch it frame by frame, they

466
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: passed by a window and there is a photograph of

467
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: like a woman standing in the window naked. Um and

468
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: like you have to watch it like in in you know,

469
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: frame by frame is the only possible way to see it,

470
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: but it's in there. Yeah, they were dirty. There's also

471
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: the little mermaid thing the the palaces. Yeah, hidden, not

472
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: so hidden, pallast Yeah. I'll bet that guy was like,

473
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: no one's ever going to see this, and then he

474
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: lost his job forever. So um, So Stoker borrows this,

475
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: uh the name. Like I said, the social standing says,

476
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: this would be a great setting. Let's throw it in Transylvania.

477
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Let's let's change a few things. Let's borrow from a

478
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: bunch of different uh folklore, and let's let's say maybe

479
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: you can't go out in the sunlight, and let's bring

480
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: up the crucifixes. Now, and let's make him really smart

481
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: and um charming, and well that was largely Bella le

482
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: GHOSTI that did that. Well, No, brom Stokers was totally

483
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: like that. I thought his was um that he was

484
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: like a withered, ugly old man, you know, but he

485
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: was still had like the stuct of powers, suave and

486
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: all that wave because he would Yeah, he changed ages

487
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, Well he does in the movie,

488
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: and I've heard the movies are pretty faithful adaptation. And

489
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: it was also I think the first time where um,

490
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they didn't have any reflection because

491
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: most of the previous les uh legends they love their reflection. Yeah,

492
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: apparently not only were they in love with their own

493
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: reflection and they could be lost for hours staring into

494
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: a mirror, they were also supposedly obsessive compulsive, as some

495
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: like Eastern folklore goes. And one way to ward off

496
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: vampires was to spread seeds outside of your house because

497
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: the vampire would be um bound to count every single seed,

498
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: and if you put a little nail or attack or

499
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: something in there, when the the vampire went pick that

500
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: one up, it would prick itself and I'll drop all

501
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: the seeds and forget where it was and start counting

502
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: all over. Oh, you gotta start counting again, and then

503
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: you'd just be sitting inside, laughing, drinking your ale. Stupid vampires.

504
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: So um, that was another difference. I'm sorry, we've been

505
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: calling them stupid vampires and up until the nineteenth century,

506
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: like you could make that case like they were kind

507
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: of dead zombiesque a little bit. Um. It was Stoker

508
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: that introduced, like you say, not not to sell this

509
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: other stuff, but the acute intelligence, that's right, this this

510
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: very smart like power of persuasion, almost hypnotic um Svengali type.

511
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: And in True Blood they have this thing they do

512
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: called glamouring, which is kind of a silly name, but

513
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: it's almost like a charm, like a spell that they

514
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: can put over you if you like black eyes with

515
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: one and you know, when you glamor them there you know,

516
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: basically in a hypnotic state, you can They're highly suggestible,

517
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: I get into a sexual way, well, in all kinds

518
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: of ways, but yeah, there's plenty of They usually are

519
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: just like take off your pants, did you say like

520
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: that point and say in a creepy tone, yeah, see,

521
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: you don't tell me you can't act, you could play

522
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: the role as a vampire. Take off your pants. Yeah,

523
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: you got the job. Let's do some voguing stuff you

524
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: should know, Stu, stuff you should you should know. So

525
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned Bella Lago Si film Dracula um, which was

526
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, where we get the cape and the I

527
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: want to Drink your blood and the sort of familiar

528
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: modern vampire that pop culturally speaking that we're familiar with

529
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: today and one of the best songs ever Ba houses

530
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: Bella Ghost He's Dead. Yeah, excellent silent film Nosavarato with

531
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: Max Shrek a little more true to the original creepy

532
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: looking guy. What was the movie starring Willem Dafoe and

533
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: um uh oh about Yeah, yeah, that was good. What

534
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: is the name of that movie? Do you remember? I

535
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: can't remember, dude. That is such a good movie. Yeah,

536
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: I want to see that movie again. I do too. Actually,

537
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: it's a great one. The ending is just yeah, what

538
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: is it? Shadow of the Vampire? R that live correction? Uh.

539
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: And Rice then came along and um yeah, nothing happened

540
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: in between, but and Rice definitely brought things more into

541
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: the forefront as far as um this range of emotions

542
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: and he's really complex characters. Um, I didn't think the

543
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: books were very good, but it's just not my bag.

544
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I read the first one and it's just

545
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: not my thing. Okay, yeah, I mean I'm not saying

546
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: it was not good. It's just not my thing. I'm

547
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: with you. Buffy the Vampire Slayer, of course, classic, not

548
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: so a great movie, great TV series. I love that movie.

549
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: Well that's good. God. Yeah, I thought it really became

550
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: itself when the cast changed. And I love that movie. Yeah,

551
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: well that's great. Have you seen that South Park where

552
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: like all the kids start becoming like vampires, all the

553
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: good kids. It's like very trendy and hip to be

554
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: to be like a vampire and give yourself a new

555
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: name and everything. Um, and they drink clomato. Oh I

556
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: love clomato. Yeah, you're in the minority, buddy. That's the

557
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: secret to my famous bloody Mary. I know you've told

558
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: me it's a good South Park Chuck. I'll check it out. Um,

559
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: where are we now? Should we talk about psychic vampires

560
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: a little bit? I guess all right? These are people

561
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: in modern times that claim that they crave and feed

562
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: on others energy, their psychic energy and they claim to

563
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: be vampire rish or vampire rick, vampire esque, vampire esque um,

564
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: and that they will not If they do not do this,

565
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: then they will not have feel like they have fed

566
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: on you know, sustenance like that is their sustenance is

567
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: other people's psychic energy. And it also goes back. It's

568
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, modern people claim this, but it goes back

569
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, thousands of years. Um. This phenomenon does is

570
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: nothing new. Well, they actually think that it may have

571
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: given rise to vampire lords. We understand it now. And

572
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: it's also a metaphor if someone you know, someone can

573
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 1: call someone a psychic vampire if they're just a drain

574
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: as a person. You know those people I do energy vampires.

575
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: That's right. Not to be confused with the other kind

576
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: of energy vampire, which is like your coffee maker. Yeah,

577
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: these things that are left on all night. Um. So

578
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: there's there's we kind of touched on it earlier, the

579
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: idea of why, um, where we would have gotten vampire legends.

580
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: People use it to explain phenomenon that we didn't understand

581
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: before there was such a thing as like germ theory. Right,

582
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: so you have like um lamas too being blamed for

583
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: sids and and um, uh, miscarriage is that kind of thing, right,

584
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: And then you have, um, a couple other diseases that

585
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: we've come to understand that they're like, you know what,

586
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: We've never really definitively linked this to vampire lore, but

587
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: I'll bet you this gave rise to it. It probably

588
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: didn't help, so like like, what, uh, porphyra? Do you

589
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: pronounce that? Porphyria? Porphyria? All right, we'll go with that.

590
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the others? Nicole? Is that what

591
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: those kids had? Okay, all right, that makes sense. Uh,

592
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: it's a rare disease. Um irg irregularities in the production

593
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: of of him with himmy, which is an hemoglobin hem

594
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: hem yeah, like himmy, but then got a himmy that's

595
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: a that's an engine. Yeah. Um. And basically what you're

596
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: gonna be sensitive to sunlight, You're gonna have a bad

597
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: stomach pains, you may be delirious. Um. Back in the day,

598
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: one prescription may have been to drink blood. So I

599
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: would say that's probably a dead giveaway right here. And

600
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: have you seen pictures? Yeah, people stricken with us creepy looking.

601
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: Their teeth can be like red or black, and their

602
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: gums can be red and black, which is I think

603
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: probably another reason why they link that to that. And

604
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: it's hereditary, so there, you know, there were places where

605
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: there was more of this um happening than other places,

606
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: which would also lend itself to the whole vampire thing

607
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: and feeding on your family. Yes, the same with tuberculosis,

608
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: like when when people were kind of spread out except

609
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: your family and there were nineteen of you and you

610
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: all lived in one house. If one of you had

611
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: TB probably the rest of you were going to catch

612
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: TV and a lot of you were gonna die from it.

613
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: And whoever was the first one to die of this

614
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: was probably the original vampire who's feeding on the other

615
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: and you're probably the one who's going to be dug

616
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: up and have your heart cut out and burned. But

617
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: at that point, who cares. And then there's another disease

618
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: called catalepsy, which is associated with epilepsy. This one is freaky.

619
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Do you ever see that Twilight Zone where um, I

620
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: can't remember what actor it was. It may have been

621
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: the professor from Gilligan's Island or he's in a cart

622
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: and he's paralyzed and he's the whole thing is just

623
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: him talking to himself in his head like locking these people. Yeah,

624
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: to not bury him because he's not dead, and um,

625
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: it's really it's a great episode. So is he cataleptic? No,

626
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: he was kind of like you said, locked in Twilight Zone.

627
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Speaker 1: Catalepsy is a it's a specific neurological disorder, like I said,

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Speaker 1: associated with epilepsy, where your muscles just freeze up and

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Speaker 1: an episode like this can last for days and your

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Speaker 1: heart rate slows and your respiration slows and you're alive

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Speaker 1: and God knows what yourans doing, but you're alive during

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Speaker 1: this time. But you know, prior to say embalming, you

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Speaker 1: may have just been taken for dead and putting in

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Speaker 1: the ground and you had to dig your way out

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Speaker 1: and go back home. Yeah. And it's also associated with schizophrenia.

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Speaker 1: So you're sitting around the dinner table and uncle, um, uncle,

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Speaker 1: what Vigo? Uncle Vigo? Remember like the gamble. He comes

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Speaker 1: in three days after you buried him, brushing dirt office

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Speaker 1: overhauls in a schizophrenic having a schizophrenic episode, and you

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna put a stake through his heart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know if you're smart, which is just not fair

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Speaker 1: because after an experience like that, it's like, why would

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Speaker 1: you wait? Why not? Why not let fate kill this

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Speaker 1: man before he goes to this horrific stalectic experience and

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Speaker 1: then it all end with a stake through the heart.

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Speaker 1: Let him get hit by a truck with a hemmy

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Speaker 1: or something ahead of time. Uh. And then I'm not

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Speaker 1: so sure about this suggestion, but it might carry a

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Speaker 1: little weight that what happens after a regular human body dies.

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Speaker 1: Um might have fed into this a little bit, I

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Speaker 1: would say, so um, fingernails and hair um continue growing.

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Speaker 1: So this is like if they dig you back up,

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Speaker 1: they're like, look, the fingernails are long, the hair has grown.

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Speaker 1: They're bloated because you're full of you know, gases expanding.

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Speaker 1: So let's cut them open and this all this fluid

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Speaker 1: drains out and say, see they've been growing their hair

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Speaker 1: and fingernails and feeding on others bodily fluids. They're alive

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Speaker 1: there well or undead, but uh well, I mean I

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Speaker 1: can see like they're going back and resting, and like

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Speaker 1: they obviously have gorged themselves. Look at their stomach, it's

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Speaker 1: all distended. So I mean I think it was probably

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Speaker 1: like the nailing the coffin on their beliefs like this

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Speaker 1: is just is all absolutely correct. Yeah I could see

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Speaker 1: that though. Yes, and then the notion of the vampire

665
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Speaker 1: bat um came along later on, where the vampire could

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Speaker 1: shape shift into bats and sometimes wolves, although in Twilight,

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Speaker 1: wolves and vampires are on opposite sides. Yeah, I said

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Speaker 1: I would mention it again. Yeah, there I went. Um,

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Speaker 1: but the whole thing of the vampire bat was just

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Speaker 1: like a creepy uh. You know, real vampire bats are

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Speaker 1: docile creatures and they might drink like the blood of

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Speaker 1: a cow, but they're not attacking people. No, that was

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00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: all for there's harmless as vampire babies. You know, what

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Speaker 1: are some of your favorite movies, Josh, Oh, vampire movies? No,

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Speaker 1: just comedies like a DC cab dr Detroit Um. I

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Speaker 1: would say probably the best of all time in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: as Lost Boys, it definitely has a kitch value. Now,

678
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: that is a great movie. It doesn't hold up super well.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen it? No, I haven't seen it in

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Speaker 1: a while, And it's the ways that other eighties movies

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00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: don't really, because that was like a cool movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Echo and the Bunny Man covered the doors in it.

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Speaker 1: Come on, shall not ki? It's a it's a strange song.

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Speaker 1: Near Dark. Did you ever see that one? I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. Seven Bill Paxton and uh that one guy

686
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Speaker 1: Lance Heinrixen. They're like these modern vampires traveling in a

687
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Speaker 1: r V through the desert and killing people. Really good.

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00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: I have not seen that. Near Dark is excellent. What

689
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Speaker 1: about first bite with the George? George Hamilton's first bite

690
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: was yeah, he's like a disco Dracula. Vampire's kiss was funny.

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Speaker 1: Nick Cage, I never saw that one. It was good.

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Speaker 1: I thought the original Fright Night. Granted it was the

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Speaker 1: eighties again, but for me, it was pretty good back

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Speaker 1: in the day. I haven't seen that. Um Cronos, have

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Speaker 1: you seen that? Garma del Toro? I don't good one.

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Speaker 1: I think I've seen it, and then um, of course

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Speaker 1: let the right one in Both versions to me very good.

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Speaker 1: I really I heard the American version of us compared

699
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: to the original, I thought they were both pretty great.

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Speaker 1: I'll check it out. Then you know they didn't like

701
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: definitely didn't ruin it by americanizing it. And then there

702
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: of course the bad ones like Van Helsing West Craven's

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Speaker 1: Dracula two thousand, Um Blood rain R A Y n E.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's lots and lots of bad vampire movies.

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00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: Dracula Dead and Loving It. That was good, though. Um,

706
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Speaker 1: do you know how many emails we're gonna get from

707
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Speaker 1: people that would say, like, you forgot about this one? Yeah,

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00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: let's just say there are hundreds of vampire movies. There's

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Speaker 1: TV shows now, the Vampire Diaries, True Blood, which I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: which is sort of good again after falling off the

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00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: rails in my opinion, and um, Twilight Breaking Dawn part two,

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00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: what is your problem? It's twice in theaters near you. Oh. Actually,

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Speaker 1: that seventy nine Dracula with Franklin Jella. That was good.

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Speaker 1: Did he play Dracula? Yeah? Yeah, he was good. Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I could see him. I'm sorry I wasn't thinking of

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Speaker 1: the right person. And then if you're into old movies,

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00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, you can't go wrong with with Bella Orghosi

718
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Speaker 1: or uh not Sparatoya. Take some time watch an old movie.

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Speaker 1: That's what I say. Yeah, that's uh, that's pretty much

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Speaker 1: your life coaching, I think. So take some time watch

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Speaker 1: an old movie, says Chuck. Watch some of them black

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Speaker 1: and white for a change. Um. Hey. Also, while we're

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Speaker 1: while we're on this kind of scary esque topic, you

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Speaker 1: want to plug somebody real quick? Yeah, I think we

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00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: have another horror fiction as right as we said we

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Speaker 1: would um plug people who sit in their stuff for

727
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: a horror fiction contest. Um and who went on to

728
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: publish stuff? Um. And one of the guys, Christopher Kelly,

729
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: who wrote the very cool short story Variable UM, took

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Speaker 1: us up on that, and he says that he has

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Speaker 1: a creepy novella about two boys whose father tries to

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Speaker 1: kill them called Abraham Road not Bram Road. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: says that it's, um, it's what would have happened if

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Speaker 1: HP Lovecraft free wrote of Mice and Men, which is

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00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. It's available on Kindle. You can go find

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Speaker 1: that on Amazon dot com Abraham Road ebook. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: then he also has a collection called I Held My

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Speaker 1: Breath as Long as I could twenty three stories of

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Speaker 1: the strange, the Sinister in the literary um. And you

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Speaker 1: can get that on Amazon as well, So check those out.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Kelly, thanks for sending in your work. We liked

742
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Speaker 1: it a lot. And remember anybody else who has published

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Speaker 1: and entered our horror fiction contest. We want to say

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00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: thanks by letting everybody know about your stuff. If you

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Speaker 1: wanted more about vampires, and it's been a while, hadn't

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Speaker 1: um You can type that word into the search bar

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00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: a House of worked dot com. It will bring up

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Speaker 1: a bunch of cool stuff, including um, who was the

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Speaker 1: real count Dracula? This vampire article written by Tracy Wilson,

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00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: which is a great one. Oh. Tracy wrote that, Yeah,

751
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: couldn't you tell? It was pretty thorough? Uh. And then

752
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: also another one I liked a lot was a Hungarian

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00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: um countess the world's most prolific serial killer. She's like

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00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: the female Dracula, Elizabeth Bathroy. Yeah, yeah, awesome stuff. Type

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Speaker 1: that in the search bar and it will bring all

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Speaker 1: this great stuff up. And since I said search bar,

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00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: it's time for listener mail. All right, Josh, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: call this a trivia plug. Um. We went to New

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Speaker 1: York for Comic Con and we had one of our

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00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: trivia nights there and one of the things that we

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00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: were required to do and want to do is read

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00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: the names of the trivia winners, and so I got

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00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: emails from them, and the thought in the runner up

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Speaker 1: team because they were cool and I'm gonna read them all.

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Speaker 1: This is from the winner, Kyle um Jannish or Yannish.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure how he pronounced that. Thanks guys for hosting

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Speaker 1: the event. Um as an Avid s y s K listener,

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Speaker 1: our team, Steve Holt, had a great time. Nick team

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Speaker 1: name was Steve h Holt. We were made up of

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Speaker 1: mainly former Midwesterners, which gave us a good advantage in

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Speaker 1: the Great Lakes question. We had three girls in fashion,

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Grummel, Monica Lange and Amy Guidal. We also had

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Speaker 1: three teachers, Dan Ferrell, Michael Rakowski and myself Kyle Jannish

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Speaker 1: and my twin who does social work Mike Jannish and

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Speaker 1: my friend who seems to always be working for a

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Speaker 1: pyramid scheme, Mica Sterling. So those were the winners there.

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Speaker 1: And uh, he says the fashion expertise did not come

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Speaker 1: in handy this time, but we were prepared for anything

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Speaker 1: except for the Kevin Smith movies category, which I wasn't

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Speaker 1: a fan of. They were far behind coming to the

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Speaker 1: last question, but wager did it all and one, um,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy. That's how it goes in At one of

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Speaker 1: our trivia events. Yeah, so Kyle, AND's there, Mike remember

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Speaker 1: meeting them? There were buddies with Joe Ran does him

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Speaker 1: and he says thanks for hosting and thanks for the

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Speaker 1: sweet T shirts. And then the runner ups, runners up,

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Speaker 1: runners ups, sorry to ghost of Williams Sapphire just ran

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Speaker 1: through to thanks for hosting the super fun trivia night

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Speaker 1: at the cutting Room. Um, and boy, by the way,

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Speaker 1: thank you cutting Room. That place is amazing and very

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Speaker 1: generous in hosting us, and it is back up and

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Speaker 1: running after like redoing the inside and it is really nice.

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Speaker 1: So give them some love if you live in New York. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm a longtime listener four years of Pure Love, and

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Speaker 1: I recently got my boyfriend David hooked as well and

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Speaker 1: it has been a nerdy bonding experience for us. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we decided to come up from Virginia. Came up from

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Speaker 1: Virginia for this that's a Walter drive. Um. We met

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Speaker 1: Our lovely teammates were Paul mcgowski, Leah Talman, Jim Nelson,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Tran, David Bury and others who skipped out early,

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Speaker 1: and myself who is Natalie David, and Natalie is the

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Speaker 1: one who brought us the Mike's on pants off T shirts.

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Speaker 1: So um, not only was that super nice, but they

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Speaker 1: able to talk a lot of smack with them, and

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Speaker 1: so I said I would read about them on the show.

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Speaker 1: This is just how it goes to one of our

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Speaker 1: trivia events, would bring people together, chuck talk smack like

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Speaker 1: directly to you. It's a lot of fun. So Natalie

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Speaker 1: David says, thanks a lot and cheers, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy the shirts and all that good stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We also we met the Convo Kings, who we've been

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Speaker 1: in touch with. That's right. They have a podcast of

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Speaker 1: their own called Appropriately Appropriately the Convo con Very nice guy,

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Speaker 1: um and uh yeah that's worth checking out too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it was great fun meeting everyone, and it's always fun.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed Robin Elbows like that. Nice people. Uh what else?

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Speaker 1: I got nothing? All right, Um, if you have had

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