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Speaker 13: The Crown is Yours coming up today A lot so

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Speaker 13: So the UFC consistently brings it in all cities. A

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Speaker 13: What's on your mind? Led Zeppelin?

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Speaker 12: So how is your weekend?

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Speaker 13: I'm surprised I haven't seen you since relocating to the

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Speaker 4: I was just thinking about that. I was just thinking

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Speaker 13: That is on me, and I can't wait to see

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Speaker 11: Did you do? Oh?

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Speaker 13: I was wondering if it was pertinent to our audience, right,

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Speaker 4: Well hold on and that that that's a title fight

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Speaker 4: Right after that's the fight one. Yeah, it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a great fight, I think, uh, and it is a

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Speaker 4: pick them as of this point.

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Speaker 13: Yeah. Wow, well gosh, man, I mean I can at

441
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Speaker 13: least admit this as someone who can't bet on it.

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Speaker 13: Like there's no way after what Jong way Lee did

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Speaker 13: in her last fight that I would walk to a

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Speaker 13: window and bet against that woman against another woman.

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Speaker 11: That's the beautiful part of that story. Uh. Yeah, I

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Speaker 11: don't know. I'm actually, without thinking about it, I'm leaning

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Speaker 11: towards uh uh wyley, Wow. Interesting, I might be out

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Speaker 11: of my mind. I think I might have slipped too

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Speaker 11: much this morning.

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Speaker 12: Now why why do you say that? Did you think?

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Speaker 14: Do you think that Jean Waylee is is that much better?

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Speaker 14: Or do you see kind of declineag? Yeah, I though

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Speaker 14: at this stage.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say a little complacency. I was heading

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Speaker 4: more in that directly. Again, I'm not giving a lot

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Speaker 4: of thought to it, and I'm looking at tapes, but.

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Speaker 1: It was more like.

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Speaker 11: Just a little complacency.

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Speaker 4: And I think, you know, she's fought the same since

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Speaker 4: she fight Grosso fifteen times at this point, so she's

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Speaker 4: had the same look, you know, like over and over again.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think, uh, I think that that's a

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Speaker 4: good fight, man, That's a really good thing.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Valentine has looked like a prime monster her last

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Speaker 13: two fights in my humble opinion, So Ray, we have

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Speaker 13: talked about this bandamweight division and Rob Dwalsh Willy and

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Speaker 13: his desire to fight four times this year, and one

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Speaker 13: thing that we have talked rather extensively about is these

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Speaker 13: other Bandam weights taking fights, and we do now have one.

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Speaker 13: In about seven or eight weeks, Umar and or Magomettow

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Speaker 13: was getting back in there against Mario Bautista, who has

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Speaker 13: won eight in a row. Curious if you have anything

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Speaker 13: for us on that in terms of just spinning things

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Speaker 13: forward divisionally.

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Speaker 11: I think that's a good fight for Umar, you know,

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Speaker 11: so I think he wins that fight. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I would have rather have seen him matched up against

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Speaker 4: O'Malley or somebody else. But Batista does earn the right.

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Speaker 4: He's been in there now and you know, like you say,

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Speaker 4: he's on an eight fight win streak. I just think

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Speaker 4: the wrestling is going to be too much for him.

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Speaker 13: I believe I saw some rumor about O'Malley fighting song.

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Speaker 13: You don't, but sometimes you gotta sift through some of

484
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Speaker 13: the information and that is out there, but Abu Dhabi

485
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Speaker 13: is in your future.

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Speaker 1: Correct, that's MSG.

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Speaker 13: For you right now?

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Speaker 14: Vegas.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well you were saying, yeah, it's vague the day

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Speaker 11: before al Joe's wedding. I think it's hysterical, that's right.

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Speaker 13: What do you wear to the wedding? You got that

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Speaker 13: all picked out four weeks away?

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I gotta actually gotta talk tow Joe. It was a

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Speaker 4: it was a little ambiguous casual need.

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Speaker 11: I don't know something like that. I mean, I look

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Speaker 11: at it. If I don't wear a suit, it'll be

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Speaker 11: the first time ever.

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Speaker 13: But we'll see, so eat casual. I think you just

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Speaker 13: go just go black suit, black shirt, just go all

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Speaker 13: out like the godfather that you are. You got a

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Speaker 13: black suit and a black dress shirt. Nothing your wife

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Speaker 13: can't put together.

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Speaker 11: No, I got a lot of black shirts, but not

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Speaker 11: a black suit.

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Speaker 13: All right. Do you know how easily with the reach

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Speaker 13: of the antikn Florian podcast humbly, we can get somebody

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Speaker 13: to come to Golden City, New York and cut you

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Speaker 13: a fucking black suit for Aljo's wedding.

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Speaker 12: Is there a tailor in the Greater Try State area.

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Speaker 13: That wants to show up at Long Gos MMA in

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Speaker 13: Garden City, New York and cut this man of suit

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Speaker 13: for Aljo's wedding. I think a lot of people would

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Speaker 13: want to do that.

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Speaker 11: Wow, I'll take I'll just do it. Yeah, let's just measurements.

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Speaker 11: I need. I need a tail of toe, So let's

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Speaker 11: do it.

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Speaker 13: We're certainly not solicitors though in back to back weeks

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Speaker 13: nonetheless here on the anticin Floran podcast. Right, so if

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Speaker 13: you do need some money to help that cause, but

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Speaker 13: let's get Ray fitted soon fed in all black for

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Speaker 13: al Jemner Sterling's wedding and al Joe Rebecca. Thanks for

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Speaker 13: the invitation, all right? Can we move on by the right, please?

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Speaker 11: Are you coming to the Are you going to the wedding? No?

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Speaker 13: I was not invit That's okay, that's okay, I will be.

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Speaker 13: I will be there for the UFC festivities the day

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Speaker 13: before and then we'll go medal to back to JFK

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Speaker 13: All right, Oh wow, So Darren till let's get this

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Speaker 13: man back to the UFC is my sentiment at this

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Speaker 13: point in time. Now, if there are greener pastures in

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Speaker 13: the boxing world, power to him, Kenny. I want to

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Speaker 13: start with you on this tremendous knockout of Luke Rockold

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Speaker 13: for a really easy to root for gorilla Darren Till,

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Speaker 13: And I know I'm not the only one that's Jones.

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Speaker 13: And to see this man back in the UFC where

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Speaker 13: I think he could still be wicked relevant.

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Speaker 14: It was a tremendous knockout even if you were a

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Speaker 14: professional boxer. I mean, the sharpness of the combination and

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Speaker 14: the finishing blow in particular was amazing. I think that's

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Speaker 14: kind of the best combination I've seen Darren Till throw.

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Speaker 1: Ever.

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Speaker 14: I think he dealt with a heck of a lot

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Speaker 14: of injuries in MMA. Now, obviously it was against Luke Rockhold.

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Speaker 14: Now Luke Rockhold, I think he's got still has some skills.

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Speaker 14: He's a big dude, but his chin hasn't been the

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Speaker 14: same in quite some time. But even if in rock

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Speaker 14: Hold had a rock solid chin still, I think that

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Speaker 14: probably still would have put him down at the very

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Speaker 14: least because the combination was awesome, awesome, awesome to watch,

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Speaker 14: And I would like to see Darren Till back as well.

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Speaker 14: You know, I know he was like kept training on

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Speaker 14: like a bad knee, and his knee was all screwed

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Speaker 14: up and a bunch of other things. But yeah, I'd

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Speaker 14: love to see him back.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 12: I think he's a star.

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Speaker 14: I love his personality and I think if he's getting

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Speaker 14: this kind of momentum and getting his confidence back and

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Speaker 14: healthy enough to do the grappling side of things, I'd

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Speaker 14: love to see him back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kenny, you just said that was the key word,

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Speaker 4: healthy enough to do to grappling. We know, we know

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Speaker 4: he could strike, He could always strike, so you know

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Speaker 4: that the issue was his achilles heel, was was the grappling,

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Speaker 4: was the wrestling?

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Speaker 11: And has he put the time in.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to probably say my guess would be no,

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Speaker 4: But you know, just to think of what he's sticking

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Speaker 4: with was the boxing, which that's that's his safe So

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Speaker 4: you know, Rocko.

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Speaker 11: As more of a kick at jiu jitsu. Guy, I

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Speaker 11: don't know if.

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Speaker 4: You ever had you know, hands, you know, as good

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Speaker 4: as Tills were. But I'd like, I think he deserves

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Speaker 4: to get a shot back. But if he hasn't worked grappling,

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Speaker 4: he's just going to be the same thing over again.

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Speaker 4: And I mean they had really high hopes for till

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Speaker 4: at one point, uh and then he kind of just

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Speaker 4: forgot about him like nothing.

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Speaker 11: So I think it'd be nice to see him come

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Speaker 11: back in.

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Speaker 13: Well, he might be very dismissive of this conversation, right

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Speaker 13: in a word, Yeah, sure, box prefer to do And

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Speaker 13: he's doing a lot of damage, So why would you

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Speaker 13: fix what certainly is the furthest thing from broken?

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Speaker 11: But what do you mean he's doing a lot of damage.

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Speaker 13: What I'm saying, he's doing so much damage in the

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Speaker 13: boxing world that why would he He could come on

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Speaker 13: here and just say why would I come back to

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Speaker 13: the UFC?

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Speaker 11: No, I got you one hundred percent? And who knows?

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Speaker 11: Now with Dana dabbling in the boxing thing, who knows

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Speaker 11: what what happens?

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Speaker 13: So how much do you watch boxing?

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Speaker 11: Right? So?

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Speaker 13: Ray watches more UFC than anyone on this show. May

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Speaker 13: be pea trees there with them, right, But Ray, I

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Speaker 13: believe you probably watch more fights than anyone on this

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Speaker 13: program in terms of UFC fights mixed martial arts fights. Kenny,

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Speaker 13: I could be wrong on that, right, But how much

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Speaker 13: boxing are you guys watching over the last five years?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I listened, man, I was I what I do with

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Speaker 4: MMA and I did with boxing In the eighties and

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Speaker 4: probably nineties, it was well, definitely the eighties. I think

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Speaker 4: once the UFC came around, it started to go less

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Speaker 4: and less, so I can't say I'm following it, following

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Speaker 4: it like I used to for sure. And my problem

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Speaker 4: John now is, yeah, I'm watching fights. I got to

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Speaker 4: retain them. There's so many fights, so many different names.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you guys do it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I have to come up with a better system because

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Speaker 4: it's for me. I mean, I love watching the fights,

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Speaker 4: I love being there, but retaining it is there's just

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Speaker 4: too many people. But as far as the boxing goes,

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Speaker 4: man To used to be huge with the boxing, and

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Speaker 4: now it's so so.

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Speaker 1: Can flow.

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Speaker 13: How much would you say boxing you've watched over the

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Speaker 13: last five years compared to maybe at other times in

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Speaker 13: your life.

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Speaker 12: Yeah. I mean when I was fighting, I was watching

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Speaker 12: it all the time.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 14: I was a huge Floyd and Manny fan, pacyaw and

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Speaker 14: I was watching it quite often, mainly, you know, to

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Speaker 14: learn from it. But after I retired, you know, so

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Speaker 14: I guess if you're asking the last five years, it's

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Speaker 14: dropped off significantly. If there's a big, big name that

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Speaker 14: that's fighting, I'll watch. I'll try to tune in. But

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Speaker 14: not only is it hard to keep up time wise,

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Speaker 14: it's been hard for me as well. So haven't kept

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Speaker 14: up with them in the last five years as much

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Speaker 14: as I would like.

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Speaker 13: I'm bringing it up in some part in context of

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Speaker 13: Darren Till and Tony Ferguson. But as I've been getting

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Speaker 13: ready for Canelo and Crawford, I found my old score

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Speaker 13: book from the MGM Grand back in the day. Right,

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Speaker 13: Oh wow, w BC Super Welterweight Championship Floyd Mayweather and

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Speaker 13: Oscar da la Hoyer. Right, my scorecard from May fifth

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Speaker 13: of two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 11: And who Jeff Wind that fight? John?

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Speaker 13: It was close fight. I had it one fifteen, one

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Speaker 13: thirteen for Floyd.

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Speaker 12: It was close.

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Speaker 13: You know, Bernard Hopkins and Winkie right back in two

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Speaker 13: thousand and seven. I think the last fight I come.

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Speaker 13: Look at Wan Diaz and Nate Campbell March eighth of

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Speaker 13: two thousand and eight. You know, But Ray, I haven't

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Speaker 13: watched this sport dutifully in a long time, or I

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Speaker 13: guess I should say regularly. Is probably the advert because

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Speaker 13: I've been watching the UFC, so I know boxing is

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Speaker 13: getting shine because of maybe some of these bigger names,

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Speaker 13: but as I've sort of watched the sport and regained

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Speaker 13: an appreciation for it, a lot fewer weapons than an MMA,

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Speaker 13: it's just a very different animal.

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Speaker 4: You know, thought you would you get a good boxing

658
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Speaker 4: fight though it's still it's still really good.

659
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, well yeah, I think what boxing is at

660
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 13: its best, few things touch it, you know.

661
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 11: I mean you mentioned but not Hopkins. I'm gonna say

662
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 11: I saw all his fights.

663
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: He was one of my definitely one of my favorite fighters, really,

664
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 4: especially a guy fighting into at an older age arena

665
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: like like he did. Yeah, he was.

666
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 11: He was really good, took care of his body, fight

667
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 11: IQ probably one of the highest. Knew how to maneuver

668
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 11: everybody in that ring.

669
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: He was.

670
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 11: I used to really enjoy watching Hopkins fighting.

671
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: A lot of dirty box and little tricks you could

672
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: pick up from him, But he was Hopkins was was

673
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: fucking great, really really good.

674
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 13: Certainly one of my all time favorites. Ken Flow and

675
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 13: I have spent a lot of time talking about be

676
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 13: hop over the years. So yeah, Kenny and Ray, I

677
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 13: just wanted to, as I empty out some of this

678
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 13: news stuff, wanted to talk to you briefly, not necessarily

679
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 13: about the matchup between Leon Edwards and Carlos Protests, but

680
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 13: in the context of Protests beating Jeff Neil the way

681
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 13: he did, asking to fight in his native Rio Dejian

682
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 13: earraw a fight night, Michael ven and Page saying he'll

683
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 13: step up, right, But I don't know if there's a

684
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 13: matchmaking question in here, Kenny, right, but this fight is

685
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 13: now on pay per view. Protest is not fighting in

686
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 13: Rio in October, and this I think has something to

687
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 13: do with bolstering Madison Square Garden.

688
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 12: Maybe their plans for Leon.

689
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 13: It's a massive fight, but Protest is not getting at

690
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 13: least part of his wish to fight in his native Brazil.

691
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's unfortunate, but at the same time,

692
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 14: I would take it as quite the compliment. If they're

693
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 14: moving any fighter that the UFC wants to see on

694
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 14: a pay per view, I think you got to take

695
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 14: that as a huge compliment. And you know they see

696
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 14: you as as a store or potential store, or just

697
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 14: an exciting fighter or all three. And I think Protest

698
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 14: is certainly that and you know, not going to happen,

699
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 14: not going to be able to fight in your hometown.

700
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 14: I'm sure it will happen eventually.

701
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 13: Ray, what do you think about that matchup?

702
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 11: In that fight?

703
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: I think protest is he he's great for pay per view,

704
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: He's he's great for anything.

705
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 11: You know. He's got the what was it my orcus?

706
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 4: The other it was like a boxer back in the

707
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: day was oh my god, I wasn't the guy was hysterio.

708
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: They almost like again it's been a long time. I

709
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: think that they're very They almost look alike a.

710
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 11: Little bit like.

711
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when he's smoking a cigarettes, see, it really

712
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: takes you right back to that of the lunatic. So

713
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: I think he's got a good little stick going. I

714
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 4: don't even know if it's your stick, but uh, I

715
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: probably he Look he's coming to fight that kid, and

716
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna he's gonna be around for a while.

717
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: And I think he's gonna he might never be champion,

718
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: but he'll be He'll be up there and he'll be

719
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 4: around for a while.

720
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 11: I think that's a and I think he wins that fight. Though.

721
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 13: He really is a true knockout artist, death touch, violent

722
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 13: knockout artist, multiple limb and weapon guy. I think navigating

723
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 13: protests over twenty five minutes is going to be a

724
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 13: really hard thing, whether he's fucking smoking darts or not.

725
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 13: I think way too make that, which.

726
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 4: I think is you know, obviously nobody agrees with it,

727
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: but it is pretty funny.

728
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 11: Man.

729
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 13: So next week on this show, Kenny's gonna have to

730
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 13: make a prediction on Canelo Albarez versus Terrence Crawford, and

731
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 13: he doesn't know this yet, but also the undefeated Callum

732
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 13: Walsh versus the also undefeated Fernando Vargas Junior. So, Ray,

733
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 13: to what extent have you followed Canelo or Crawford and

734
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 13: where is your where is your enthusiasm level for this fight?

735
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 13: On September thirteenth.

736
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 11: Uh, I followed Canelo more than Crawford.

737
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 4: But I know Crawford, He's undefeated and he just looks

738
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: like he makes easy work out of a lot of people.

739
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: But I think I've seen more of Canelo than crawlfed

740
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: and I think Canello's the big a guy. I am

741
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: excited for that fight. I am excited. I'm watching the fight.

742
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a great fight. But

743
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: I followed Canelo more than Crawfit and that's probably why

744
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 4: I'm picking Canelo to win.

745
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 13: Kenny, I know you always have one eye on the

746
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 13: elite guys. I know you've mentioned Bud Crawford before, but

747
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 13: what is your relative excitement level for September thirteenth.

748
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 12: I love the fight.

749
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 14: I think it's it's very intriguing, just based on the

750
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 14: fact that Crawford's technical ability is.

751
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 12: Unbelievable and so his Canelo's. By the way.

752
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 14: The problem is, is is it good enough to make

753
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 14: up for that weight advantage. That's the question.

754
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

755
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 14: I mean, again, there's weight classes for a reason, and

756
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 14: getting hit by a guy who weighs naturally ten, fifteen,

757
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 14: maybe twenty pounds more than you, especially a guy who

758
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 14: can punch like Canelo, that's going to be interesting because

759
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 14: you can land. Let's say, you know, ten punches and

760
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 14: Canello hits you with one big one, and that makes

761
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 14: up for way more than even ten punches. So I

762
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 14: don't but but Crawford's slick man. If there's one guy

763
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 14: that can do it, I think it's someone like Bud Crawford.

764
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 14: And you talk about his competitive spirit, how he came up,

765
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 14: everything he's learned up to this point. He's an amazing fighter.

766
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 14: He's an amazing fighter, and I don't think he has

767
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 14: a heck of a lot to lose Canelo, you know,

768
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 14: with this pressure at this stage of his career, you know,

769
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 14: can he can't he deliver?

770
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

771
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I tell you back in the day, and

772
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 4: I don't know if it holds true to today's times.

773
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 4: But back in the day, I mean, like boxing, like

774
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: you had ten guys in each division that could be

775
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 4: a champion, that's how competitive it was. So when guys

776
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: would try to move up five pounds, it's a big deal.

777
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 11: It was a big deals.

778
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: And back in the eighties day used to do a

779
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: lot of super fights, like even sometimes on the same night.

780
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: I think, like, I don't know, but it was always

781
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: in like the light away classes, the forty seven or

782
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 4: even lower to Wilfredo Gomez is and that.

783
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 11: Whole down there. But five pounds back then was a

784
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 11: big deal.

785
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 4: So I don't know if it holds weight today because

786
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: I don't think the competition's to sit within the division,

787
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 4: so there might be more of a you know, more

788
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: leeway in there for the weight, but U yeah, you know,

789
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: and I'm sure today I don't think they knew how

790
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: to make weight back then either, they weren't doing because

791
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: everybody was still putting on a you know, a wet suit,

792
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 4: you know, like one of those rubber suits and riding

793
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: a bike in the sauna, you know, like that type

794
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 4: of crazy stuff.

795
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 11: But this, yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but

796
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 11: I know back in the day.

797
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: Five pounds was big, So I kind of leaned towards

798
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: that bigger, heavier guy because it's not like the bigger

799
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: heavier guy is not good.

800
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 11: He's really good too, So there's a lot to overcome there.

801
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, so Canelo's been the more active guy. Bud Crawford

802
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 13: fought I guess about a year ago. I think it

803
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 13: was moving up to one hundred and fifty four pounds

804
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 13: for the first time. But what I find, and I'm

805
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 13: learning on the job, But beauty's in the eye the beholder,

806
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 13: because depending on who you talk to and listen to,

807
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 13: Crawford's win over Ismail, Madreamov and man, they'll pronounce names

808
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 13: any which way. Right, They don't seem to care in

809
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 13: the boxing world. I have noticed, right, Madromov madream of right,

810
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 13: but I thought that was fairly dominant. A lot of

811
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 13: people felt like that was close. Right, But he's never

812
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 13: fought at sixty. He's not moving up from fifty four

813
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 13: to sixty eight. He does have a few inches in reach,

814
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 13: does the smaller Crawford. But uh, yeah, it's interesting for me,

815
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 13: having not watched their entire primes, to now watch all

816
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 13: the film to listen to talking heads suggests how maybe

817
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 13: removed either one of them is from their fighting prime,

818
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 13: because Canelo still looks pretty fucking.

819
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Good to be.

820
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 11: Yeah.

821
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 12: Wait, and Crawford's had some time to put that weight

822
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 12: on too, you know, so.

823
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 13: He has Yeah, and John, you're cool in that fight, right?

824
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 13: I am?

825
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 11: That is that's great?

826
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 13: Thanks buddy. Thanks, No, I'm excited. I'm excited. Yeah, I

827
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 13: will end my fifteen year layoff from boxing commons.

828
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 11: Wow, love it.

829
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 13: But yeah, we're shaking off the rust will landed on

830
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 13: Max Kellerman and Andre Ward and everybody else. But yeah,

831
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 13: we're excited for September thirteenth. Care to reckon a guess

832
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 13: as to what the betting line might be, either of you.

833
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 13: I'll let you think about it for ten seconds while

834
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 13: I tell you that the fourteen and oh twenty four

835
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 13: year old Callum Walsh is minus two ninety five the

836
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 13: betting favorite against the seventeen and O Fernando Vargus Junior

837
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 13: who comes back at plus two twenty five. I think

838
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 13: you both know Canelo Alvarez is the betting favorite, but

839
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 13: care to reckon a guess as to what range it's in.

840
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: Let's see, that's got to be close. I'm gonna say

841
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: he's a minus one forty Kevi for what.

842
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 13: Do you think?

843
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 14: I would say closer to two hundred, But let's say

844
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 14: minus one ninety five.

845
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, minus one ninety at last check.

846
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 13: So Kenny just all over all over it. So anything

847
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 13: this weekend of interest for you, Raymond. In Paris, we

848
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 13: have i Obo Hallyo, Nasordini, mab Bob. In the main event,

849
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 13: you got Mauricio Rufie two to one favorite against the

850
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 13: former French Special Forces operative Ben Was Santony who comes

851
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 13: back plus one seventy. Some other big names as well.

852
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 13: Very interesting to see Patricio Pitbull make a third UFC

853
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 13: appearance here. Already, anything of note for you on this

854
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 13: Paris card, Raymond.

855
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: I'm excited for the Roofie fight, you know, because he's, uh,

856
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: he's been like kind of on the radar, so I

857
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: want to see what he could, uh what he's going

858
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: to do, in that fight, which I expect him to

859
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 4: do really well. But yeah, it's gonna be a great card.

860
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 4: Wait before I forget though, Jona, Yeah, yeah, you know

861
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: I got to bring that up. I saw the clip

862
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: of it. Brought a tea to my eye. I'm sure

863
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 4: brought a tea to your rise with Wideman and Brian

864
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: Sam come on, man, when Stam Knoximova in the potato

865
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: sack race, I was loving every second of it.

866
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 11: Was great.

867
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, tremendous clip with Brian sand Chris Widman from the

868
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 13: UFC three nineteen way in show.

869
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 16: Yeah, how funny was that good stand back in this?

870
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 16: He making a comeback. We'll see, we'll see. It was

871
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 16: nice to see him though in that set to be sure,

872
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 16: Oh I missed it.

873
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 11: You got to see it.

874
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 12: They Yeah, they did a battle who won?

875
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: Who won? So I kind of don't want to spoil.

876
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 13: It for you, but yeah, they did a battle, you know,

877
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 13: chugging like chugging a beer, arm wrestling. I was very

878
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 13: surprised to see Widman just dust stand so quickly in

879
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 13: the arm wrestling. But then they did these potato sack

880
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 13: races and one of the one of the participants sort

881
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 13: of cheated. Uh so, yeah, Cody's going to rack the

882
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 13: Sack race for US right now, because.

883
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 11: You're gonna love it. If if Yeah, you're gonna like so.

884
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 13: This is from the US's YouTube channel, USD three nineteen officials.

885
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

886
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 13: Oh I guess Stan did still lose the Sachi race

887
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 13: after all that?

888
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so damn why.

889
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 12: He still has no.

890
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: He's I'll tell you one thing, man, he's he was

891
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 4: always probably I think he's probably the most competitive guy

892
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 4: I've ever met. He couldn't stand to lose.

893
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 11: Man, he was. He was.

894
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 4: It was funny and you could, you know, even manipulate

895
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: that in the training, you know what I mean. He

896
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: was it was automatic and even that you could see

897
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: he's he came out guns blazing in the arm raised

898
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: and he's in the potato sac. You know, he's a

899
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: good sport. They're both great sports and two great guys.

900
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: And it was just I thought it was great to see.

901
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 13: Last thing I want to say, and I want to

902
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 13: get both of your thoughts on this. There are a

903
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 13: lot of individuals in the combat sports world that recognize

904
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 13: that they are mere mortals and they're trying to take

905
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 13: combat sports wrestling jiu jitsu to the next level, and

906
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 13: you guys both deserve a lot of credit, right, anyone

907
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 13: who's been a participant, right, But to see a pro

908
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 13: wrestling league, right, and to see what Bmack and the

909
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 13: guys at the Pro Grappling PGF world are doing right

910
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 13: in dirty boxing opportunities for athletes, right. I guess I'm

911
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 13: more talking about the wrestling and the grappling, you know,

912
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 13: but it's really amazing to see where all of these

913
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 13: things are. Kenny right to think about you and me

914
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 13: fight for MMA in two thousand and seven in Bristol,

915
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 13: Connecticut at ESPN, and now jiu jitsu and wrestling. You know,

916
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 13: I do think maybe there's a ceiling on what jiu

917
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 13: jitsu can be, right, But to Craig Jones and everybody else,

918
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 13: that is really affecting change. You know, they're gonna leave

919
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 13: these sports in a lot better position than they you know,

920
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 13: when they left them, and that's a that's a great thing.

921
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 12: Absolutely.

922
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 14: I Mean I came up in a time where no

923
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 14: one really knew what Brazilian jitsu was. I had to

924
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 14: explain everything in a cage.

925
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 7: What is that?

926
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 12: Is that legal?

927
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 14: You know?

928
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: I had to, like hope through this whole thing and explain.

929
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: Now you have jiu.

930
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 14: Jitsu competitors that are literally able to make seven figures

931
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 14: a year now, whether it's you know, a combination of

932
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 14: competing seminars, you know, they're instructionals that they're putting out there.

933
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 14: So there's there's obviously a hunger for this, you know,

934
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 14: these events and for jiu jitsu information and all that stuff,

935
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 14: which is great.

936
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 12: That was never the case when I was coming up.

937
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 14: So it's awesome that guys can make a living without

938
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 14: having to get punched in the face. So obviously, I

939
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 14: think a lot of this is trickling down from the

940
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 14: popularity of the UFC, right so, and then for wrestlers,

941
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 14: they didn't have a way to retire without either being

942
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 14: a wrestling coach or having really really successful wrestling camps.

943
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 14: Now you're able to compete on a professional level, and

944
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 14: you know, these guys weren't even making much if you

945
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 14: were an Olympic wrestler. You know, I think that the

946
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 14: most they were getting was maybe two hundred maybe four

947
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 14: hundred thous and if they got a gold medal.

948
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 12: But obviously we know that.

949
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 14: Is extremely rare, So you know, it's great to see

950
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 14: all these other outlets for grapplers all over the place

951
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 14: where they can make a lot of money, make a

952
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 14: good living without having to go and mixed martial arts.

953
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 14: Because a lot of these guys are good, you know,

954
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 14: maybe not a lot of them, but a lot a

955
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 14: decent amount of them are going into mixed martial arts

956
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 14: because they don't have anything else.

957
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a great opportunity. And like what

958
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: Kenny saying, like even when they first came out with

959
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 4: those Gracy challenges, remember back in the day, I don't

960
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: even know that's not even before you.

961
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 11: I think that this is before the UFC obviously, but

962
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 11: I remember the were amazing. Oh they were crazy, right, yeah.

963
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: And plus they had all the you know, besides those

964
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: they had all those Valley Tuto tapes with guys were

965
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: just throwing down in like a gym.

966
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 11: They would just clear out a gym.

967
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 4: And two guys would go and there was no time limit,

968
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: so you'd sit there and watch these guys for a

969
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: half hour. You know, somebody got knocked out or quit

970
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: or tapped or whatever. But I remember sitting down there

971
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: was even with Richard Bustillo, he was one of Bruce

972
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: Lee's original students, and we were talking about you know,

973
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 4: the matches, the Gracie matches and stuff, and his take

974
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: back then and I'm going to say, it's got to

975
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 4: be like eighty seven or whenever that was was that

976
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 4: he was happy.

977
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 11: He said, you know what, what I'm happy about.

978
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: All the grappling guys are going to start getting some

979
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: notoriety now, you know. So he was even at the

980
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 4: foresight to see that. And it was true, like like

981
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: Kenny said, when you were done wrestling, you either taught

982
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 4: at a college which wasn't paying a lot either. I

983
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: don't think the money was back then, so or you know,

984
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: you went and got a job somewhere period. So it

985
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 4: is good to see how far you know, the wrestling

986
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 4: guys came and how far you know, the jiu jitsu

987
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: guys came. And they they all owe that to the gracies. Man, yeah,

988
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: they all owe that to you know, the graces even

989
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: right they even Hickson said, you know, twenty years from now,

990
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 4: even if you know, like why you're teaching all your

991
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 4: secrets kind of crap whatever it was, but he said,

992
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 4: at least everybody will be using you know, gracing jiu

993
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: jitsu in the future.

994
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 11: And I think he was right, you know.

995
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, love you buddy. Appreciate the time, Ray Longo. You

996
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 13: can follow this man on Instagram. He'd appreciate the follow.

997
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 13: What is it at Ray Longo? Mm A, yeah, yeah,

998
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 13: your god, damn.

999
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 11: Right, it is.

1000
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: Get that follow button.

1001
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 13: Yeah, and we wish you, you know, a great day

1002
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 13: and a better evening and all that.

1003
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 11: All right, guys, I will see you. Enjoyed the week.

1004
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 11: We'll go normal time next week.

1005
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 13: Right, We'll see you next Monday for uh for your

1006
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 13: Canelo Crawford prediction.

1007
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 11: Very good. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna actually look

1008
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 11: at some fights.

1009
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 13: I appreciate that you're the mat. All right, take care

1010
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 13: of Ray long a minute every week here on the

1011
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 13: annac Imploring Podcast. Good to have everybody with us live

1012
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 13: on YouTube today and also on the DraftKings Network, so

1013
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 13: real quick, and I know we got to get to

1014
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 13: the picks and Brian Petrie, Mike Coppinger coming up in

1015
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 13: about forty minutes as well as we continue the boxing conversation.

1016
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: But the willingness not to manipulate, but to change.

1017
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 13: Up the rules within the jiu jitsu or striking world

1018
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 13: is huge, right because major league Baseball change things up

1019
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 13: to a grand degree. A couple of years ago. They

1020
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 13: made the bases bigger, right, they had the pitch clock.

1021
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 13: It is such an ingestible game, right, These games are

1022
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 13: like two hours and forty five minutes, oftentimes shorter than that.

1023
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 13: They used to be obnoxious.

1024
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 4: Right.

1025
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 13: Mixed martial arts still needs to do better in terms

1026
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 13: of changing rules and making more liberal ten eight rounds

1027
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 13: and giving judges more resources like half points, and giving

1028
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 13: referees more resources, right, Mma, I think you can knock

1029
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 13: you know, And maybe the UFC deserves some criticism here

1030
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 13: for not making more rule changes right to maybe make

1031
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 13: the sport I'm not saying get rid of the grappling,

1032
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 13: but to make it a little bit better, not necessarily

1033
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 13: more entertaining.

1034
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: Right.

1035
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 13: But Kenny in the jiu jitsu world, like these guys

1036
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 13: who are trying to affect change, They're changing rule sets,

1037
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 13: They're trying to make this sport more ingestible and more

1038
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 13: fun for fight fans. And I think a lot of

1039
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 13: them are creative and doing a really good job with

1040
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 13: that as well.

1041
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1042
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 14: Absolutely, I think that's the big challenge John, I think

1043
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 14: is with having a consistent rule set, because as humans.

1044
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 14: We are very creative and we know how to do

1045
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 14: game systems naturally over time, and people will cater their

1046
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 14: jiu jitsu style or their tactics to you know, I

1047
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 14: don't know, like protect leads or whatever.

1048
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: So it's tough.

1049
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 14: I think that's where the challenge is going to be

1050
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 14: moving forward, or you know, the guys that are going

1051
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 14: to make the most money, similar to other sports, are

1052
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 14: gonna be the guys that are most exciting point, you know,

1053
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 14: just like that.

1054
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 12: That's what's gonna happen, period.

1055
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 14: So I think it's interesting, but it is nice to

1056
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 14: see some of these guys, some of these teams, some

1057
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 14: of these individuals making lot of money now in a

1058
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 14: world where that was not feasible several years ago.

1059
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 13: There are a lot of good investors out there, obviously

1060
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 13: that are back in some of these promotions. Some will

1061
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 13: gain traction right like Bare Knuckle, and some won't, you know,

1062
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 13: like Dirty Boxing has a lot of steam. Nate Diaz

1063
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 13: was in the building. You know, they continue to sell

1064
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 13: out Miami. It seems like maybe they now need a

1065
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 13: bigger venue. I see your smirking at something.

1066
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 12: Wait a sec, Wait a sec.

1067
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 14: Is this where we come up with the Anak and

1068
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 14: Florian Grappling Challenge, the Anak and Floyan Grappling Championships.

1069
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 13: Kid, I'm not even kidding, right, I know, No, you

1070
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 13: should just be an annual tournament. I mean we can

1071
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 13: walk offline. We'll fucking talk off line. Let's dirty boxing,

1072
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 13: right like dirty boxing as far as I know, it's

1073
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 13: three three minute rounds and it is dirty boxing.

1074
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 12: Elbows.

1075
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 13: You can ground and pound, but not from a knee,

1076
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 13: so I believe you have to be in a standing position.

1077
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 13: Superman punches you can leave your feet right and super

1078
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 13: ingestible fights.

1079
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 11: You know.

1080
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 13: Can they get to a bare knuckle level? I think

1081
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 13: is certainly a realistic goal right now. But I think

1082
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 13: a lot of these promotions are going to gain traction

1083
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 13: and it's very exciting to see as guys who have

1084
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 13: been covering combat sports to whatever degree for about twenty

1085
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,080
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Speaker 13: English or does Brazilian Portuguese names. You're gonna absolutely love

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Speaker 13: this file. He's a former Shoot to Brazil Champion trains

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Speaker 13: that I'm talking about?

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Speaker 1: Is it Galway? Fer nangis Galway?

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Speaker 13: Let's hear him say his name, Kyle.

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Speaker 11: Kyleiea Kyle Wia.

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Speaker 13: three wide as we transition to UFC Fight Night, Imava

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Speaker 13: versus bohlu as we welcome on our chief handicapper.

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Speaker 1: He is a big gun.

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Speaker 12: Brian Petrie, what's up my men?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 11: Boys?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Week off? Good to be back,

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Speaker 1: Good to see the faces.

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Speaker 13: It's great, good to be to you, always great to

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Speaker 13: see you.

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Speaker 12: What can Brown do for you?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right.

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Speaker 13: Brian moved his time slot, so graciously for us today

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Speaker 13: and uh, you know, at least thrice annually. I should

1154
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Speaker 13: probably thank you for your commitment to the show, but

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00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 13: we appreciate your flexibility as always. And I think most

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Speaker 13: challenging for us, right is live on Mondays, in this

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Speaker 13: case Tuesday, several days before a lot of things start

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Speaker 13: to manifest and fight week in Paris. Right, so when

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Speaker 13: you do your picks on the MMA Takes podcast, right,

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Speaker 13: sister program, if you will to the Anaiciplorian podcast, right,

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Speaker 13: if we can claim that like you trying to delay

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Speaker 13: that show until as late as possible in the week

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Speaker 13: or what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I've been this year. I've been really focusing

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Speaker 1: on props. It's something that's been plaguing me in my

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to get better every year, and

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Speaker 1: my prop game last year when I sat down and

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Speaker 1: did the numbers weren't great. And that's where a lot

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Speaker 1: of money can be made. So props typically don't come

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Speaker 1: out till late Wednesday night, which isn't a possibility for me.

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Speaker 1: So typically I do my show on Thursday, whether it

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Speaker 1: be live or pre recorded. I'll either pre recorder in

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Speaker 1: the morning, edit it, put it out there a night,

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Speaker 1: or do it live Thursday night, just so I can

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Speaker 1: get a good look at the props and then typically

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Speaker 1: of a fight jobs out will see that usually you

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Speaker 1: can't really predict weight issues or whatever. That that's something

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Speaker 1: I could later, but yeah, typically I wait till Thursday

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Speaker 1: just to get all the bets I have in front

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Speaker 1: of me.

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Speaker 13: Respect to both of you guys attacking the film. Oftentimes

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Speaker 13: on a Sunday, the day after a UFC live event,

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Speaker 13: it is UFC Fight nighty Mavav versus Boholio Paris, France,

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Speaker 13: a Corps Arena, Saturday, September sixth, and here we go

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Speaker 13: on the main car five predictions. Today we begin in

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Speaker 13: the featherweight division. The much anticipated UFC debut of Belgium's

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Speaker 13: low Saining Cada has arrived. We don't have a Cada

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Speaker 13: audio file for you yet, so open to interpretation on

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Speaker 13: the first name. But Cada the much decorated former Octagon

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Speaker 13: two division champion Briye.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen to one and now the minus two to oh five.

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Speaker 13: Betting favorite against the decorated former Belator champion Patricio Pitbull,

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00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 13: who comes back at plus one seventy VP.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, yeah, I mean, Katy should be undefeated. I mean,

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Speaker 1: listen to me. He heard his own foot in the fight.

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Speaker 1: That's his own loss was he heard his foot in

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Speaker 1: the fight. It wasn't like he got kicked or anything.

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Speaker 1: He heard it coming out of a guy's guard. Either way,

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Speaker 1: he's explosive. If you haven't seen this dude fight, go

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Speaker 1: watch him fight. I've been watching them all weekend. He

1201
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: was a guy that slid under my raidar. I do

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Speaker 1: not pay too much attention to octagon promotion, which I should,

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00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: but the Reddit boys had me for a couple months ago.

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Speaker 1: They've been popping up like, hey, this dude should be

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Speaker 1: in the UFC, and they're absolutely right. He is explosive.

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Speaker 1: His body work is great. You know, his kicks are okay.

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Speaker 1: My only concern and issue is, I mean, he's has

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Speaker 1: a great record. He's fought his last three guys. He

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Speaker 1: fought at like fourteen to one, ten and one eleven.

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Speaker 1: He's fighting good guys. But this is a big jump

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Speaker 1: up and experience, obviously, and he is hitable. He can't

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Speaker 1: take a shot here and there with in between the

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Speaker 1: explosive moments, and that's where pit Pull. A guy like

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Speaker 1: Pitple can get him and ask Dan Ege. Wasn't the

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Speaker 1: most exciting fight, but Pitple put him down and people

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Speaker 1: scared him in that fight. Didn't really want the EGA,

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Speaker 1: didn't really want to engage Pipple because he tasted that

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Speaker 1: power regardless of age and size and everything. Both these

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Speaker 1: guys are very similar where they both were double champs

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Speaker 1: outside of the UFC, but now it matters under the banner.

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Speaker 1: Now it matters under the UFC banner. And I like

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Speaker 1: Keat in this spot here. I mean minus two five.

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Speaker 1: I thought we're gonna get him in a higher number,

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Speaker 1: so I'm actually loud or not. I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: play easily. That's a parlay piece. Also maybe by knockout

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Speaker 1: as well. I feel like he could touch pit Bull's chin,

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Speaker 1: who has been knocked out in the past. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's a little bit older wears me a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But I like Keda. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: shine here. I think this kids to start and if

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Speaker 1: he dies his air blonde, he pulls to Kevin Ramon

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Speaker 1: went out forget it, forget it, take my money bro right.

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Speaker 13: It's very interesting in terms of the matchmaking for some

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Speaker 13: of these former Bellatour guys right in some respects you

1235
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Speaker 13: could say merciless, but out of the other side of

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Speaker 13: your mouth you can say they're no easy outs in

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Speaker 13: the UFC. But these highly touted, promotional newcomers coming in

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Speaker 13: and fighting guys like Patricio Pitbull and Patchi Mix who

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Speaker 13: sort of just got here Kenvill third UFC appearance for

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Speaker 13: the thirty eight year old pit Bull, he vowed to

1241
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Speaker 13: be busy in twenty twenty five. They'll probably fight four

1242
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Speaker 13: times one in one now in the UFC. After the

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Speaker 13: win over Danny Gay, which was recent July nineteenth, How

1244
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 13: do you cap his chances here against Cada.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, very interesting line.

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Speaker 14: You know, Patricio has a ton of experience and to

1247
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Speaker 14: see a guy making his UFCD UFC debut, you know,

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Speaker 14: be a favorite against a legit vet, a dangerous guy

1249
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Speaker 14: in in many aspects, I think says a lot about

1250
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Speaker 14: Kita and what people think about him. There's no there's

1251
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 14: no question the guy brings an athleticism, a speed, and

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Speaker 14: a power that is rare.

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Speaker 1: He's a slick striker. He's not just like a speed

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Speaker 1: and power guy.

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Speaker 14: He knows how to set up shots, he knows how

1256
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 14: to put together combinations. And he tends to fight at

1257
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Speaker 14: a range which really tends to negate guys who want

1258
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Speaker 14: to try to take him down. Now, what happens if

1259
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 14: Pitbull is able to get to the clinch. We'll see

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Speaker 14: if his athleticism can make up for whatever maybe grappling

1261
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Speaker 14: deficiencies he has. But I think it's gonna be a

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Speaker 14: really exciting fight, wiless while it lasts. But I'm gonna

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Speaker 14: go the way of Kita, you know. I think his youth,

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Speaker 14: his record, his momentum heading into this one against Pitbull,

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01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 14: you know, and both these guys do get hit, you know, Brian,

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Speaker 14: both of them. I think you have a tendency of

1267
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Speaker 14: taking shots sometimes. But yeah, give me Kita here. But

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Speaker 14: you know, I think there's some value on Pitbull, all right.

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Speaker 13: Next up on the main card, light heavyweight division, Modestus

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Speaker 13: Bakowskis minus three twenty five and climbing I think minus

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Speaker 13: three fifty five or so now, but for our purposes

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Speaker 13: minus three twenty five. Paul Bear jew Kaig plus two sixty.

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Speaker 13: But Kowskis is just a gem of a human being,

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Speaker 13: and not just because he's Lithuanian. Brie. He's selling a

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Speaker 13: lot of adversity, as you know, a lot of injury

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01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 13: stayed the course, maybe entering his fighting prime right now,

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Speaker 13: thirty one years of age. I know you're gonna tell

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Speaker 13: us he's training with Tom Aspinall and perhaps that's the

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Speaker 13: reason the line is climbing, right. I think that's a

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Speaker 13: big deal. And if you know bakowskits as easy to

1281
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Speaker 13: see why the Aspinau camp was so welcoming. But kowskis

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Speaker 13: minus three twenty five against the credentialed submission guy, Paul

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Speaker 13: bear Jew Craig VP of the Floor is yours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this fight's easy, right, I mean, anybody could

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Speaker 1: pick this not so fast. That's a pull, big fight.

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Speaker 1: This dude, he looks you know, he's in crazy fights.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Akalia of last second submission, the last fight,

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Speaker 1: with the weird stoppage with the illegal kid. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's some weird shit that goes wrong with around Paul Craig.

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Speaker 1: I like that he's at two A five. I don't

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01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: liked evy five stuff. I thought he stretched himself too

1292
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Speaker 1: thin for that. But I like Pacalcus here I do.

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Speaker 1: I know he's training with with Tom onasketball, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I love the season. This of Bacalcus as well. I

1295
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Speaker 1: love that he you know, got cut from UFC once

1296
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Speaker 1: some fights got brought back, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: He's had some hiccups here and there, but he knows

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Speaker 1: how to fight. Seventy seven takedown defense as well. Paul

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: Craigs take down to takedown offense isn't great. He can

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01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: play the guard game. As long as Boukawkas doesn't just

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01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: have a complete brain meltdown and play some ground game

1302
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: with Paul Craig, he should win this fight because I

1303
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: think he's better on the feet. He also is a

1304
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: bigger guy and has better or has good submissions, maybe

1305
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: not better submissions, but can defend himself on the ground.

1306
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: But let's not play that game. Stand up, piece him

1307
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: up with your kicks, your punches, get him out of there.

1308
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: I like Bukalkus, but the number is it's steep for me.

1309
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 13: I had a quote Kenny from Modestas pokowskis about Tom

1310
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 13: aspinall and his dad. But he just talked about Tom

1311
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 13: as such an elite human being and just the diet

1312
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 13: and the nutrition, the commitment in totality to the MMA cause,

1313
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 13: and that's what you get with Bokowskis as well. He's

1314
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 13: all in on the other side. Kenny twenty first UFC

1315
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 13: appearance for Paul bar Jew Craig nine to nine to

1316
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 13: one with a no contest that came in his last outing,

1317
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 13: of course, against Hudolfo Bolato. Last win for Craig Andre

1318
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 13: Moon is more than two years ago, and he's a

1319
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 13: pretty big underdog this weekend, Kenny against the Baltic Gladiator.

1320
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 11: Who do you like?

1321
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I think Paul Craig has gotten better

1322
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 14: as a fighter. I think he's worked hard on his

1323
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 14: stand up striking. He's shown better Muay Thai. I think

1324
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 14: he's fighting at a much more advantageous range. But I think,

1325
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 14: you know, Brian's right now. I think with his takedown game,

1326
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 14: I think that's a vulnerability that Bokowskis can probably expose here,

1327
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 14: because Paul Craig has an advantage if he's able to

1328
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 14: get on top, even maybe if he's on his back

1329
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 14: against Bokowskis. He's that dangerous with this submission game. But

1330
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 14: I think Bokowskis's defense on the feet when it comes

1331
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 14: to wrestling, I think is going to negate that and

1332
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 14: as a result, it will stay on the feet, and

1333
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 14: that's where Bokowskis can really take advantage and land in

1334
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 14: one of those big shots. Paul Craig doesn't have the

1335
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 14: best chin, but I think it should be better at

1336
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 14: two five than it is at one eighty five. But

1337
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 14: that said, I'm still with Pokowski's I love the fact

1338
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 14: that he's training with Aspinall. Anytime you surround yourself with

1339
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 14: greatness and true professionals, you can learn a lot about

1340
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 14: you know, not only what they do from a training aspect,

1341
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 14: but what they're like mentally, what they're like as a person,

1342
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 14: and start to absorb that.

1343
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: I think that's huge and I like that from Bokowskis.

1344
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, he talked about sort of constantly feeling like he

1345
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 13: needs a notepad to write something down in terms of

1346
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 13: things that Aspinall does leading to success. Very interesting article

1347
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 13: on Amnaejockie dot com about that relationship. All Right lightweight

1348
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 13: division the hard nos Welshman Mason Joe minus one thirty

1349
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 13: five against Bolajioki, who is the plus one fourteen underdog

1350
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 13: right now. Jones is one of my favorites. Briy always

1351
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 13: was crazy to me that he found his way out

1352
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 13: of the UFC. Maybe some misfortune early on earned his

1353
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 13: way back beat Jeremy Stevens into moy and Iowa earlier

1354
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 13: this year. That was his second UFC win, and now

1355
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 13: facing the Zulu Warrior Who do you Love?

1356
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 12: BP? Who do you Love?

1357
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you said that. I don't think Mason

1358
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: Jones should have been cut. He's an exciting fighter. But

1359
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: by the way, real quick to off of the taman

1360
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: next to the American flag. How good is the Welsh flag?

1361
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean the flag is just fire with the dragon everything.

1362
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: And he's a very proud man from Wales and I

1363
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: like him, and he's exciting, and he had an impossible

1364
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: task going to Iowa. You got a one off with

1365
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: Jeremy Stevens, who's like a god from Iowa at this point,

1366
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: and you go toe to toe. I'm sure you mix

1367
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: some of takedowns. It was a close enough fight, but

1368
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: there was never since where I thought Mason was gonna

1369
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: lose that fight, right, He looked great. And you got

1370
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: Oki who almost dropped a fight to Michael aswell, who's

1371
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: come off a loss over the CONTENNI series, who's a

1372
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: solid guy with some solid boxing. But this is a

1373
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: prospect that we're supposed to like. The Chris Duncan loss

1374
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: that he lost earlier was a fluke. This guy's explosive.

1375
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: He's the next thing. I thought he maybe took a

1376
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: step back in that fight, fought a little bit reckless

1377
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: and as well where he was a giant favorite. I

1378
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: love Mason Jones. I'm a Mason Jones supporter. I think

1379
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: he is a real deal with chins for days as

1380
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: cardios for days. Power's there, he mixes it up, it's

1381
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: not like overwhelming power, and he has a pretty decent

1382
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: takedown game as well. I like Mason Jones. I love

1383
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: love this low number as well. So yeah, definitely Mason

1384
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: Jones for me, Kennedy.

1385
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 13: The underdog is Belajioki, raised in Brussels, Belgium, half zimbab

1386
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 13: Wayne two and one across. His first three UFC appearances

1387
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 13: came off season four of Dana White's Contender series Close

1388
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 13: Fight here fifty five camp flow who takes it?

1389
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1390
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 14: I think ok is the more athletic guy. I think

1391
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 14: that he's very powerful. He's going to be extremely dangerous

1392
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 14: on the feed, even for Mason Jones. However, Mason knows

1393
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 14: how to mix things up, and I think that a

1394
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 14: great prep for this fight was fighting a guy like

1395
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 14: a Jeremy Stevens who can do a lot of similar

1396
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 14: things that Bollagi Okie can do.

1397
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 12: So yeah, I like Mason Jones here. I like his versatility.

1398
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 14: I think he showed some really good time management and

1399
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 14: aggression and knew how to win rounds against Jeremy Stevens.

1400
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 14: And yeah, because of that, I think he's gaining more experience,

1401
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 14: gaining momentum.

1402
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: Give me Mason Jones here, and I definitely like the

1403
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: line as well.

1404
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 13: All right, coman event in Paris, France also comes away

1405
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 13: in the lightweight division. The Fighting Nerds ret Mauricio Rufie

1406
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 13: last two five and wa antonis plus one seventy. Now,

1407
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 13: the first time I said the word rufie on the

1408
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 13: podcast today elicited a reaction from Kenny and Cody and

1409
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 13: myself internally. Now Kenny knows what I'm talking about. He's

1410
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 13: nodding his fucking head because when we were kids, right,

1411
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 13: rufie was a really scary word. Is right, and involves

1412
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 13: somebody putting something in my drink or somebody else's drink

1413
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 13: to try to get them further inebriated to a point

1414
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 13: of maybe losing consciousness. Right, So if you don't know,

1415
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 13: you know, there's like verb like he got roofied, right,

1416
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 13: And I think maybe even I think Data White maybe

1417
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 13: said it after Rufie knocks somebody out, right. But when

1418
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 13: I asked Ray Longo Brian about that fight, you know,

1419
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 13: Cody immediately head completely in the fucking gutter, chimes in

1420
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 13: in the chat, Kenny smirks just when I say the

1421
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 13: word rufie, and I can't even get it out without

1422
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 13: having some sort of reaction inside. And this kid could

1423
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 13: be the world champion one day, you know, sure, but uh,

1424
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 13: you ever roofie anyone?

1425
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: But I know I'm just kidding, right, fun fact I've

1426
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: been rufied. Oh yeah, So not a drug guy, not

1427
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: an alcohol guy back when I was twenty two years old,

1428
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: sober guy, sober guy, back when I was too I

1429
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: was drinking alcohol back then, a twenty tw years old,

1430
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 1: A really good buddy. Mine's like, dude, let's take these

1431
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: fucking in uh what are they called, zandy bars. Let's

1432
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: take these dandy bars and just have a night.

1433
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 11: Dude.

1434
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: Some shady dude pulled up. He bought them for him,

1435
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: and I'm fucking an idiot, like, I'll take it whatever

1436
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: it is. Don't remember anything. I was told I flipped

1437
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,879
Speaker 1: a beer pong table, try to fuck everyone. It was scary.

1438
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: And the next morning the guy texted my buddy was like, oh,

1439
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: I sold you the wrong things. Those are those weren't

1440
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: supposed to go to you. So pretty unfortunate. First time

1441
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: ever in my life I've ever not remembered anything. It

1442
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: was in the just people tell me, dude, you did this,

1443
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: you did that. I'm like, there's no way I did that.

1444
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: That's not me. But you know, it is what it is.

1445
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 13: Man kind of rooffed yourself a little bit.

1446
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I will. Yeah, No one slipped me

1447
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: a drink, slip me a mickey or whatever. The fuck.

1448
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: I did it myself. I was ignorant. I deserved it,

1449
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, it was the wrong, wrong thing.

1450
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 13: Well, I've taken a xanax one time in my life,

1451
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 13: and I've probably told this story on the Anakin Flooring podcast.

1452
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 13: This actually happened three months before we launched the show

1453
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 13: in January of twenty fifteen. Flying back from the late

1454
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 13: great Anthony Rumble, Johnson and Alexander Gustafson in Sweden, I

1455
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 13: believe was the main event, and I took the Xanax

1456
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 13: just sort of, you know, to fall asleep on the plane.

1457
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 13: I'm sitting in my airplane seat and then we end

1458
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 13: up sitting there for like three hours or whatever. So

1459
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 13: I wake up the DC going like this to my face,

1460
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 13: just keeps putting his hand like drape down across my faced.

1461
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 13: I'm n NEX more than ten years ago. Let's get

1462
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 13: vent in the nerds. Reteo Fie, Oh five've been lost.

1463
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 13: Anthony seventy, Brian Reve has taken this division, if not

1464
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 13: this by storm and a lot of respects. This could

1465
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 13: be the fight that Bolton in a lightwell contention. He's

1466
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 13: won seven in a row, three and oh in the

1467
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 13: US thus four, A lot of it's along the way

1468
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 13: and now he's fighting this brick wall in was Santinay?

1469
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 13: Who do you like in the Komain?

1470
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: I love this fight. This is really good matchmaking here.

1471
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: Rufie is a guy from the fighting nerds. Maybe him

1472
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: and John Silva are have me most excited. No disrespect

1473
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: to the main event, no respect to colors protests. There's

1474
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: amazing fighters coming out of the fighting nerds. But there's

1475
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: something about Rufie, his technique and his skill size, everything scary.

1476
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I think in about two years, Cody's gonna

1477
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: end up in his corner because Rufie resides in New

1478
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 1: Hampshire and he's opened a gym there and I know

1479
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: that's Cody, that's cody territory there. He's gonna up in

1480
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: this guy's corner. But this guy is legit as they come.

1481
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: There is still some question marks though, because bsd uh Ben,

1482
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:43,799
Speaker 1: we'll think to knee. This dude is rough and tumble

1483
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: and will make it ugly as much as he can

1484
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: do it. Gas Tank, I think isn't there. I don't

1485
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: think he can go three rounds hard like he does.

1486
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to come out and he's gonna have

1487
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: to no out technique this guy. He's gonna have to

1488
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: rough him up, and that's a strategy. Take him down,

1489
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: beating mup, use your strength, your ability to do that

1490
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: and fuck you up on the ground. He's done it

1491
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: many times in the UFC. Problem is he's very hittable. Yeah,

1492
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: he's very hittable. The more Kano fight, McConnell pieced him up,

1493
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: busted his face, He's wanted to continue, but the face

1494
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: was a mess. Rufie is patient, he's big. I'm sure

1495
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 1: he's working on takedown the fence and a guy like BSD,

1496
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: who I do not trust his card. You go for takedowns.

1497
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: After takedowns, you're gonna start getting tired. When you start

1498
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 1: getting tired, you're already lackluster. Defense is gonna be no defense,

1499
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 1: and then he's gonna tee off on you. I like

1500
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,839
Speaker 1: Rufy Big here. I like Rufy by Ko. I'm sorry, France,

1501
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get a great fight. This is

1502
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: your guy. Last time there in France, it was an

1503
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: amazing crowd, still gonna be an amazing crowd. But I

1504
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: like Rufy Big in this spot. Man, I like him.

1505
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: By Ko two probably second round is what I'm gonna

1506
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: play that.

1507
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 12: We like the specs. Ben was wassant Today.

1508
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 13: Ken and Company, born in Paris, France, got a much

1509
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 13: needed win over the short notice replacement Kyle Preppolikat you

1510
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 13: have fifteen in Montreal that in May. Prior to that, Kenny,

1511
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 13: he hadn't won since knock it out matth de Stein

1512
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 13: Vola probably Dad sal the bulldozer for Vola shout outs

1513
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 13: to the Forbola family that was back in twenty twenty three.

1514
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 13: Another Stern tests for sampt Deny Kenny Homeman event here

1515
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 13: you know, six and three in the UFC. He's a

1516
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 13: but he's been absolutely destroyed in all three of his

1517
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 13: pro losses in the UFC. What are your thoughts on

1518
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 13: this comane event for Stony at Home against Rufie.

1519
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I think Ben waside. Denny is a

1520
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 14: fantastic fighter. He's aggressive. I think he's a really good grappler,

1521
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 14: and that's where he needs to take this fight. As

1522
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 14: good as Rufie is, we still haven't seen him grapple,

1523
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 14: you know, certainly not with long exchanges on the ground

1524
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 14: too too much.

1525
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 2: And.

1526
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 14: Maybe we find out just how good he is on

1527
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 14: the ground. I'd love to see him at least challenge there.

1528
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 14: And I think even for Rufie himself, I think it

1529
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 14: would be nice for him to get that experience, to

1530
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 14: go against the guy who has taken him down and

1531
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 14: see how good he is off his back?

1532
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: Can he get back to his feet? Can he attack

1533
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: off of his back?

1534
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 14: But I'm not sure it's gonna get there. I think

1535
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 14: as good as Ben was santny Is. He's not the

1536
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 14: best athlete, and he does love to keep that chin

1537
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 14: up in the air. If you keep your chin up

1538
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 14: in the air against an absolute sniper like Mauricio Ruffi,

1539
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 14: I don't like those odds.

1540
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: I think that Roofie will find it.

1541
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 14: Not only will he find it, he'll find it with speed,

1542
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 14: He'll find it with power, and he just might find

1543
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 14: it with any part of his body, whether it's an elbow,

1544
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 14: a kick, a knee. This guy is a fantastic striker.

1545
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 14: And what is that thing about him that you like?

1546
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 11: Brian?

1547
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 14: For me, it's his focus. He's got a look in

1548
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 14: his eye that just seems a little bit different. It

1549
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 14: reminds me of Connor McGregor in his first couple fights,

1550
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 14: where the confidence is matched with the skill, that the focus.

1551
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 14: Everything is really coming together for Rufie. I think this

1552
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 14: is one of those fights that is going to legitimize

1553
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 14: him as a star. I see a finish in a

1554
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 14: big finish for Roofie here in this spot.

1555
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 12: It's crazy.

1556
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 13: I was reading an article on Sure Dog featuring Kyle

1557
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 13: Bohoalio from just a few years ago, and it was

1558
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 13: him and I think maybe Bruna Brazil were the only

1559
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 13: fighters from the fighting nerves that were in the UFC,

1560
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 13: and now there's four guys and more. Right, shout out

1561
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 13: to Miklo Lekshigic if you know what I'm not going about.

1562
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 13: But a lot of these guys can do damage, not

1563
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 13: the least of which is the headlining act this weekend.

1564
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 13: Kenny Kyle Bohalio minus won twenty five against fellow top

1565
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 13: flight midway contender Nosordini Mabov, who is plus one zh five.

1566
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 13: So Bohalio is a brilliant man, not just a great fighter, right,

1567
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 13: I mean he's as good as an English UFC analyst

1568
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 13: as most of the men and women who are employed

1569
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 13: in that realm already right now.

1570
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: He's also seven to zero in the UFC can Flow.

1571
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 13: Last win came against Jared Cannonier, was a hard fought

1572
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 13: five round made event that was over a year ago.

1573
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 13: He did weigh in as the backup a few weeks

1574
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 13: ago for the title fight. Now his turn to prove

1575
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,799
Speaker 13: that he should be next for kamzatschimayav same goal applies

1576
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 13: for Imavov. Can't full lead us off on the main event,

1577
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 13: essentially a pick him here. Bojolio minus won twenty five

1578
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 13: Imavov plus one oh five.

1579
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 11: Oh Johnny.

1580
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 14: Even if I never heard him talk, I could tell

1581
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 14: that Boholio is a very intelligent guy.

1582
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,759
Speaker 1: Why because of the way he fights.

1583
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 14: He's so good at exposing the other guy's vulnerabilities and

1584
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 14: bringing the fight into his realm where he is strong,

1585
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 14: and that kind of emotional intelligence and overall mma IQ

1586
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 14: is something that I put a lot of weight on.

1587
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 14: I think he also has toughness. I think he also

1588
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 14: has athleticism, and I think he also knows how to

1589
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 14: execute when the lights are bright, and that's what he's

1590
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 14: going to need to do here against Imabov, who I

1591
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 14: think is very underestimated as a fighter. This guy is

1592
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 14: an absolute killer. I think he's tough. He's really worked hard,

1593
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 14: particularly on his wrestling defense, and he's a pain of

1594
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 14: the ass to get to the floor. And if he

1595
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 14: is there, I think he's worked very hard on getting

1596
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 14: back to his feet. Now, is he good enough to

1597
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 14: challenge Boholio on the ground. No, I think Boholio really could,

1598
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 14: you know, look to use takedowns throughout this fight and

1599
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 14: try to expose him, not only with the submission game,

1600
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 14: with his but with his ground and pound, try to

1601
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 14: wear imaovof down. I think imaalv Off has largely taken

1602
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 14: away a lot of any conditioning issues that we've seen

1603
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 14: in the past. But five rounds is difficult for anybody

1604
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 14: out there, And I think for Boholio, if he can

1605
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 14: drag him into deep waters and tire him out, especially

1606
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 14: early on, to maybe take some of that sting off

1607
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 14: of his strikes, I think that would serve Boholio well.

1608
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 14: And Boholio is the kind of intelligent fighter who would

1609
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 14: be aware of.

1610
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: That and look to do that. So I like Boholio here.

1611
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 14: I do think there's a lot of value in him

1612
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 14: mauv Off as a striker, as a guy who's really

1613
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 14: hard to take down and who's.

1614
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 12: Fighting in France.

1615
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with the Brazilian here.

1616
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 14: I do believe in Bohoalio's ability to not only win

1617
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 14: this fight, but potentially fight for the bell out of

1618
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 14: the near future.

1619
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 13: Given the Middleway waters right now, it's going to be

1620
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 13: a big setback for the loser. Imvov slightly the underdog

1621
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 13: right now. Brian outstanding. UFC run eight and two of

1622
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 13: the no contests He's won four in a row and

1623
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 13: all against top flight competition. The five round majority over

1624
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 13: Roman Deleds a stop Cannoneer in the main event, outpointed

1625
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 13: Brendan Allen in Paris a year ago, then stopped at

1626
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 13: Asana in the main event back in February. Is he,

1627
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 13: by the way, has come out and picked Kyle Bohoalio.

1628
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 13: But if this is not an eliminator free mob, I'm

1629
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 13: not sure what else he has to do? Big things

1630
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 13: in Paris, Briy, who do you like in the main event.

1631
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 1: So this is where I think I get in trouble

1632
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: because I don't know why I was born this way,

1633
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: with this unfiltered confidence. I'm down a billion units to Kenny.

1634
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: Kenny just died a brilliant breakdown, picked Pholio, and here

1635
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: I Am going, what a fool the way did? I'm

1636
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: so common in mavov. I think he's fought the better competition,

1637
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: and I think he's cleaned up his cardio. He has

1638
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: gotten better and better and better, and he is a

1639
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: problem in there. Chris Curtis told me when they fought,

1640
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: he felt he was one of the strongest guys he's

1641
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: ever felt. You know, Chris is Underside's middleweight. But he

1642
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: was the first guy to take Chris down in the UFC,

1643
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: and Chris is like, dude, he just felt so strong

1644
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: in there. He's a big, strong guy. I know he's

1645
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: born in Russia, Dakistan represents France, and he's just getting

1646
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: better and he's so good and Barrao, the one problem

1647
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: I have with him is I love his talent and everything,

1648
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: but you haven't fought in the year one eighty five

1649
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: is so jam packed. I can't imagine picking him over

1650
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: Fluffy for a title shot. Fluffy's active, Fluffy's out there

1651
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: destroying people. Barroo, we haven't seen him since Kennier and

1652
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: he didn't finish can the year when he Mobof did

1653
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: that's MMA map. We're not going to use that. That's bad. However,

1654
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: I just, for whatever reason, doing the breakdowns watching the studies.

1655
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: I know when Mobof has a couple hiccups in his

1656
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: UFC career, but I think a lot of those had

1657
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: to do with cardio issues, and ever since the Delise fight,

1658
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: which he won a majority decision for five round, I

1659
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: feel like he's fixed a lot of things. In the

1660
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: Izzy fight, I think was a really good example of

1661
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: what we're going to see here. Borlo has the advantage

1662
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: on the ground, but he hasn't landed takedown in his

1663
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: last three fights, hasn't really gone from any takedowns last

1664
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: three fights as well. He's more concerned with striking and whatnot.

1665
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm sorry, I mean, listen, I'm not sorry.

1666
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: The listeners out there. You can tell one of us.

1667
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: You can tell the guy who's up a lot, or

1668
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: tell the guy who's not. I'm just giving you my

1669
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: opinion on why I'm so confident. I think he's going

1670
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: to get it done here. I think he's going to

1671
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: look impressive and I think he's going to fucking blow

1672
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: the roof off France.

1673
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 13: Amazing job with the main event breakdown to both of you,

1674
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 13: you're not gonna like my mma math here on the

1675
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 13: other side, Brian Patrick, Yeah, show me what's up. Let's

1676
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 13: get to place your bets right to go where you

1677
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,880
Speaker 13: can get fifteen percent off your merchandis order with promo

1678
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 13: code one more sleep.

1679
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1680
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 13: So Pet's been taking some chances. So has Blonde Banker

1681
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 13: thirty two. I won't reach it the rest of his

1682
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 13: email address, but he sent an email to the Anakinflorm podcast,

1683
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 13: He said, my net worth is seventeen point five million,

1684
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 13: but as.

1685
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 12: An exercise, I decided to.

1686
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 13: Tail Kenny and Brian on the main Event Challenge in

1687
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 13: twenty twenty five, and tailing Brian Petrie, I am now

1688
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 13: down eighteen thy three hundred and seventeen dollars. Can I

1689
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 13: please have a free T shirt?

1690
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely, to which Jason.

1691
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 13: Annick responded, your net worth is seventeen point five you

1692
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 13: can used the promo code family for thirty percent office

1693
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 13: not like that, but maybe you could buy the T shirt.

1694
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 13: But yeah, so Petrie down another four case. Since we

1695
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 13: last convened, Kent Fel lost a couple hundred bucks. Actually,

1696
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 13: Ptre's only down seventeen one seventy eight. The deficit is

1697
01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 13: eighteen yeah, three seventeen.

1698
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: I had one winning week in there in the past

1699
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 1: couple weeks, so.

1700
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's not too bad.

1701
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 13: Brian. Yeah, you know, I mean you're only in the

1702
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 13: whole seventeen k that's fucking nothing. So all right, you

1703
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 13: got a thousand bucks to spend this weekend, Brian, of course,

1704
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 13: week kid, because you're the best, and as your wife knows,

1705
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 13: you know, you're gambling account looks a lot better and

1706
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 13: a lot blacker than the numbers that we just relate.

1707
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 12: So what are you doing with one thousand dollars this weekend?

1708
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 13: My mat?

1709
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: So for all the people that are giving me shit,

1710
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 1: either in the comments or just like playfully tagging, I

1711
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: love it. This is I'm putting my face. I'll pretict

1712
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm predicting the future. I love this shit. I don't

1713
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: take it too hard. I don't get upset. There's kappers

1714
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: out there, they get very upset. I take all my

1715
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: losses on the gin, but I'm gonna be up about

1716
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 1: two grand after this weekend.

1717
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 12: I let's go, mat mee.

1718
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: Not a guarantee. Uh, just one one one parlay here,

1719
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: you mov off roofie plus two A five, one thousand bucks.

1720
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: Let's take two thousand bucks in that bank account.

1721
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 11: Baby.

1722
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: That's it man, I love that. I love that parlay

1723
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: two legger here. I was gonna go a little exotic,

1724
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: but let's get some winning weeks and then we'll mix

1725
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: some things up.

1726
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 13: Nicely done, Ken Flow, you are at plus eleven hundred

1727
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 13: and thirty nine dollars and fourteen cents for the year.

1728
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 13: Your lead is north of eighteen thousand. You have one

1729
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 13: thousand dollars to work with this weekend.

1730
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 12: Petrie just putting his testicles on the table.

1731
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 11: I like that.

1732
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: All right, here we go.

1733
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 14: So all right, well, I actually was going to put

1734
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 14: one hundred dollars on Fernandez. I thought he was an

1735
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 14: interesting underdog pick. Obviously his fight against Ziem is not

1736
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 14: is not happening. But okay, so I'm gonna do a

1737
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 14: little parlay. I'm doing a two hundred dollars parlay on

1738
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 14: Bokowskis and Jones, and then I'm gonna do eight hundred

1739
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 14: dollars on Roofie.

1740
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:42,560
Speaker 13: Oh there you go, yeah, Rufie, honest, two hundred or

1741
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 13: so yeah, on Draftking Sports Book, Brian Petrie before we

1742
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 13: let you go. So next week, you guys will not

1743
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 13: only be picking Jean Lord Silva versus Diego Lopez and

1744
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 13: the rest of the notesew you have to eat car,

1745
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 13: but we're gonna have you guys give a prediction on

1746
01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 13: Canelo Alvarez versus Bud Crawford and also potentially Callum Walsh

1747
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,959
Speaker 13: versus Fernando Vargus Junior. Now we know you're a tremendous

1748
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 13: boxer just in your personal life, but how much have

1749
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 13: you watched of Canelo Alvarez and Terrence Bud Crawford over

1750
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 13: the last five years.

1751
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: Uh, I've seen every single one in their fights.

1752
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 13: Okay, so what are your thoughts on September thirteenth and

1753
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 13: what is your relative level of enthusiasm for how competitive

1754
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 13: the matchup will be.

1755
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very competitive. It's about a

1756
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 1: nine out of ten, probably the most of THEUS I've

1757
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: been in a boxing match in a long time. Because

1758
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Sarrence Crawford fan, I think what he

1759
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: does is specially He's one of the few boxers that

1760
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 1: really can switch stanzas on either side and be absolutely

1761
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: through when he does it. For a reason, I've studied him,

1762
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 1: I watched him. I've had the laptop in my garage

1763
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: watching him trying to replicate it on the bag. I

1764
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: just think he's absolutely phenomenal. Obviously, the big question is

1765
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: he's moving up in size. You know, this is the

1766
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 1: guy that started his career at one and thirty pounds.

1767
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: Now he's fighting Canelo, who He's a thicker guy. His

1768
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: tall Terrence isn't super skinny or super big, but he

1769
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: is taller than the Canelo, and the Canelo. The thing

1770
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: with Canelo Is. Maybe he's been maybe he's been bored, right,

1771
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's just fighting these million dollars pay days.

1772
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: He hasn't looked his best in a couple of years.

1773
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 1: I think he's still an elite fighter. I know they're

1774
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: both a little bit older in age. Maybe this fight

1775
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: could happen when they were younger, But I still think

1776
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be phenomenal fight. I think it's gonna be

1777
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: razor close, and I'm excited. I'm also excited about Callum watsh.

1778
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: He's a guy that Dana obviously backs, and Dana put

1779
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: him on radar and I've watched all his fights on

1780
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: fight Pass and he's got a slick, a little style

1781
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: to him. To me, he's very young in his career.

1782
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: I got to do some more research on his opponent,

1783
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, I'll be tuning in for both those.

1784
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: I'll be double TV in at that night, Johnny.

1785
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think a lot of MMA fans are.

1786
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 13: Tapped into what Callum Walsh has done because of the

1787
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 13: UFC Fight Pass alignment, but less familiar, certainly with Fernando

1788
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 13: Artist Junior. Well, actually, yeah, there will be some crossover,

1789
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 13: but the UFC shows early.

1790
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: That day, is it okay? I went exactly sure the

1791
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 1: times you.

1792
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 13: Got me free and clear.

1793
01:25:59,240 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 11: All right.

1794
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,839
Speaker 13: If you want more from Brian Petrie at Brian Petrie

1795
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 13: MMA on X and you can watch end and just

1796
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 13: his MMA takes podcasts wherever you get your podcast, my man.

1797
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 12: Nicely done. We'll talk to you next week.

1798
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 13: A lot of work to do next week with ten picks,

1799
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 13: so buckle.

1800
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: Up, can't wait, boys, I'll see you have a good one.

1801
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 13: Brian Petree with us for the main event challenge. We'll

1802
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 13: get a few other MMA news and notes here, potentially

1803
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 13: on the way out schedule to be joined by Mike

1804
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 13: Coppinger from the ring here in a couple of minutes,

1805
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 13: so if he joins us, we will get that in

1806
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 13: as well. So you know, it was interesting for me

1807
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 13: to hear some comments from Tom Aspinall and it's sort

1808
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 13: of dovetails or Tom Aspinall's father, I should say, it's

1809
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 13: sort of dovetails into part of our conversation today about

1810
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 13: my gosh, how much transpired in the combat sports world

1811
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 13: since we were last here. And I know sometimes I'm

1812
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 13: a little bit too insulated, but all this wrestling and

1813
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 13: boxing and some celebrity boxing and grappling and everything else.

1814
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 13: And you know, Andy Aspinall sort of softly said in

1815
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 13: terms of the money, like, how about my Tom. Oh,

1816
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 13: I mean, I don't know how long Tom's gonna be

1817
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 13: around in the UFC, but you know, if any heavyweight

1818
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 13: out there, you know, should be able to maybe test

1819
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 13: his hands in that world. I know we talked about

1820
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 13: Sergey Pavlovic a few years ago, right, but you know

1821
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 13: Tom aspinall, I know it's a different sport, but if

1822
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 13: he were to test in a heavyweight boxing setting, not

1823
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 13: unlike Francis and Ghana, you know, far being from anyone

1824
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 13: to question whether or not he could risk some success.

1825
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 1: Well, he's an amazing athlete.

1826
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 14: He definitely is a rarity in that division, in the

1827
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 14: in the sport in general, a guy being that big,

1828
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 14: who can move like him, who has that level of

1829
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 14: speed and power and footwork, it certainly is rare, you know.

1830
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean, hopefully for Tom's sake, he can

1831
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 13: make the money in the UFC, and certainly he's gonna,

1832
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 13: it stands to reason, benefit greatly from the new TV

1833
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 13: deal as much as anyone if he can get past

1834
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 13: zero gun in October but all right now with us

1835
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 13: right on the screws twelve forty twelve days before the

1836
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 13: biggest boxing event of twenty twenty five, to say the least.

1837
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 13: Longtime boxing journalist senior insider for Ring Magazine, Mike coppingers

1838
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 13: with us. Mike, appreciate your time today, Good sir.

1839
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 12: How are we doing.

1840
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: Doing great?

1841
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 11: John?

1842
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 12: How are you doing well?

1843
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 11: Man?

1844
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 13: So you know, it's been interesting for me to sort

1845
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 13: of immerse myself in the boxing world over the last

1846
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 13: couple of weeks. And depending on maybe which talking head

1847
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 13: I'm listening to, some people are calling this the biggest

1848
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 13: fight of the year, some calling it the biggest fight

1849
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:28,839
Speaker 13: of the decade. If you were to provide some historical context,

1850
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 13: as a guy who's been embedded in this world for

1851
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 13: fifteen years, how big is this fight compared to, you know,

1852
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 13: fights of the last five to ten years.

1853
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh, certainly, I think this is the biggest commercial fight

1854
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: since May with a Pacquiao and also maybe with a

1855
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 2: McGregor too, And don't I don't think it's bigger than

1856
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: you either of those fights. And certainly you could argue

1857
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: that this fin fights that maybe have meant more to boxing.

1858
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 2: But I think in terms of how many people are

1859
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,879
Speaker 2: going to watch this fight, how many casualts?

1860
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 1: And don't you reach?

1861
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 2: I mean, just being on Netflix alone bring it to

1862
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: a new stratusphere. I think you're talking about Canelo Alvarez,

1863
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,480
Speaker 2: who is one of one in boxing in terms of popularity.

1864
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 13: Right, So you started covering boxing about fifteen years ago.

1865
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 13: You went to George Mason University. Were you there in

1866
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 13: six when they went to the Final four?

1867
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 11: No, I was.

1868
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 12: I was wow.

1869
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 13: I thought the numbers might have aligned. You're certainly much

1870
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 13: younger than the guys in this room. So what year

1871
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 13: were you and what was that all about? If you

1872
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 13: don't know real quick? For the combat sports fans, George

1873
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 13: Mason University ran it all the way to the final

1874
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 13: four in college basketball.

1875
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 12: Had to be absolutely thrilling.

1876
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 13: As a member of the student body, I would think, yeah.

1877
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 3: That was an incredible experience.

1878
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 2: I was a sophomore, and obviously when I went to

1879
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: George Mason, which is like five miles outside of VC

1880
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:42,799
Speaker 2: for those who don't know, in Northern Virginia.

1881
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 3: I wasn't going there because I was like, oh, this is.

1882
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 2: A great basketball school, right, you know, it just it

1883
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 2: just fit for me. So that was a great experience.

1884
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 2: I ended up going to the Elite eight in Sweet

1885
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: sixteen games because they were actually at the Verizon Center

1886
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 2: and then called the Verizon Center in DC, and then

1887
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: beat yukonf in overtime and then to go to the

1888
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: Final four, and then a bunch of us did go

1889
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 2: to Indianapolis for the Final four.

1890
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 3: So amazing experience.

1891
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 2: The team never reached those heights again, of course, and

1892
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 2: then Larrnega shortly there after once at the University of Miami.

1893
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, Mike Coppinger, Willis Lib'm on the Anakin Florian podcast

1894
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 13: getting Ready for Canelo v. Crawford September thirteenth on Netflix.

1895
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 13: So I got an opportunity to host the Mouthpiece Boxing

1896
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 13: show on Sporting News Radio in Boston in two thousand

1897
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 13: and three. And had I not gotten that opportunity twenty

1898
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 13: two years ago, I never would have worked for the UFC.

1899
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 13: I didn't grow up a combat sports athlete. I wasn't

1900
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 13: really a big boxing fan as a kid. What was

1901
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 13: your childhood like in terms of ingesting combat sports and

1902
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 13: what led to you ultimately covering combat sports as opposed

1903
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 13: to maybe the stick and ball sports here in the US.

1904
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 11: Oh, yeah, great question.

1905
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: So I was born in eighty six and I'm from

1906
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: Brooklyn originally. So my first memories of boxing were my

1907
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 2: dad frustratingly playing Mike Tyson's punch out showing me when

1908
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 2: he'd beat Mike Tyson. He was very excited, and so

1909
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 2: I always had like good familiarity with boxing through you.

1910
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 2: I knew him like Tyson was, of course, and I

1911
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 2: would catch some highlights of his fights, and you know,

1912
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 2: I watched the I watched a lot of Sports Center.

1913
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 2: I was a huge hockey fan and football fan, but

1914
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: when I turned sixteen, it was really the Tyson the

1915
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 2: Lewis fight, if you remember, you know, such an amazing

1916
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 2: build up to that fight, all the Sports Center coverage

1917
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: that really got me enamored of boxing, and since two

1918
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: thousand and two, in that fight, I've watched pretty much

1919
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 2: every single fight after that.

1920
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 12: Mike, I'm curious about about this fight.

1921
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 14: You know, it's an amazing fight, two extremely technical boxers.

1922
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 14: But obviously, you know everyone's talking about Canelo's weight advantage.

1923
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 12: Do you think that's what this fight is about?

1924
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 14: Is Is it just as simple as Crawford having to

1925
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 14: kind of, you know, outdo his skill and kind of

1926
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,560
Speaker 14: make up for that weight disadvantage.

1927
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 2: I think so, Kenny, I think that's a huge part

1928
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Speaker 2: of this fight for sure. I mean, you know, you

1929
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Speaker 2: were a fighter at the top level, right, So it's

1930
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 2: like Crawford just had one fight at fifty four. And yes,

1931
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: I agree, I don't think boxing needs all these weight classes.

1932
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: First off, Like you know, I think UFC gets it right.

1933
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Speaker 2: But even then, you're talking about a guy who's Crawford's

1934
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: probably the best way to forty seven, and that would

1935
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Speaker 2: go all the way to sixty eight. So my questions are,

1936
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 2: I would take a punch fare and Ken doesn't have

1937
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 2: enough power to gain Canelo's respects. I mean, as we

1938
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 2: all know here, Canelo's chin is legendary, not just for

1939
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 2: this era but any error, right, And I see a

1940
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: lot of people I think it's kind of a lazy

1941
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Speaker 2: comp saying, well, Crawford's taller than Canlo, or Crawford has

1942
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Speaker 2: longer arms, which is true, or that Canelos started at

1943
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 2: forty seven, but Cannelo started when he was fifteen years old.

1944
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Speaker 2: He looked at Canelo like standing next to Crawford. I've

1945
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 2: been around him a lot in his build up. Canelo's

1946
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: back his shoulders, his legs. He's just much thicker than

1947
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 2: Crawford and I Crawford, you know, even though he is

1948
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 2: very elusive ken Be he is there to be hit.

1949
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 2: He's he's there to land his own offense and stands

1950
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Speaker 2: in the pocket. So if he takes a few flush shots,

1951
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Speaker 2: I think that's going to tell the fight. You know,

1952
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: if he take a big shot early on, that will.

1953
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Speaker 11: Be big for him.

1954
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Speaker 14: And as far as the speed advantage, just does Crawford

1955
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 14: had that? Does he have that much of a speed

1956
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:06,799
Speaker 14: advantage you think against Canelo?

1957
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Speaker 3: That's interesting. Yeah, I don't think Crawford does blazing handspeed.

1958
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 3: You know, I think of that kind of handspeed. I

1959
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 3: think of guys like Ryan Garcia. I think Crawford has

1960
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 3: a good hands feed.

1961
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Speaker 2: I think he's a very good athlete, and I think

1962
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 2: he's incredibly strong for his size. You know, he has

1963
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 2: that a wrestling background. You saw him against Earl's fence

1964
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 2: just shot. I think it was like ground two when

1965
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 2: he shoved their olds fence across the ring. But I

1966
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 2: don't think he has blazing hand speed, and I think

1967
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Speaker 2: Canelo's I think he Canalo's has a pretty fast too

1968
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 2: for a guy his size, right.

1969
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and at a guy at this stage of his career.

1970
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Speaker 13: Right, It's been interesting for me to watch all this

1971
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 13: film in a short amount of time and hears certain

1972
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 13: pondit suggests that you know, Canelo's in the twilight of

1973
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 13: his career, that the hand speed is gone, when maybe

1974
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 13: my eyes are telling me something different. The great Mic

1975
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 13: Coppinger with us here live on the attic Emploring Podcast.

1976
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 13: So earlier this year you left ESPN, you joined the Ring.

1977
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 13: Certainly Turkey alo Chik super ambitious in terms of this

1978
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 13: initiative and so many things. I know it's early on,

1979
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 13: but what has that professional experience for you been, like

1980
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 13: sort of through half the year.

1981
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's definitely been an amazing experience. A lot

1982
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 2: of fun travels, a lot of great access. And I

1983
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 2: never thought i'd leave ESPN. I think a lot of us, right,

1984
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 2: that's our dreams to get there. Yeah, but it was

1985
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 2: a great opportunity. And I think I'll tell anybody about

1986
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 2: Turkey is that he has a great grand vision. I mean,

1987
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:23,560
Speaker 2: you see some of the stuff he's done in just

1988
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 2: a short period of time, you know, dropping a ring

1989
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,719
Speaker 2: in the middle of Times Square, you know, trying to view.

1990
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 3: Alcatraz and he's really I think done.

1991
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying this because I work for

1992
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 2: the ring and work for him, but I think he's

1993
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 2: done an amazing job bringing that to the brands of

1994
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 2: the ring, you know, and he's only only in.

1995
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Speaker 3: Less than a year now.

1996
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 2: I think the ring, I think all of us know

1997
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 2: what it is, and it's been around since nineteen twenty two,

1998
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 2: but I think it kind of, you know, still has

1999
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: a way to go. But I think, you know, to

2000
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 2: be involved with these kind of fights and somebody who's

2001
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 2: trying to clean up the sport of boxing, I think

2002
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 2: it's a it's a really refreshing.

2003
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 13: It is interesting in terms of the rebranding the Bible

2004
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 13: of boxing, right, it's poppin' man. You're absolutely right, tremendous

2005
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 13: traction for the ring in a short amount of time.

2006
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 13: So in terms of Terrence Bud Crawford coming through as

2007
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 13: the underdog here either outpointing Labarez or winning by knockout,

2008
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 13: obviously in terms of his all time legacy, it would

2009
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 13: be absolutely enormous. But you know, in combat sports, the

2010
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 13: UFC or boxing, I think sometimes people bring ego into

2011
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 13: the conversation and some people say, yeah, this win would

2012
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 13: make Bud Crawford top three all time, and when you

2013
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 13: bring that to the wrong audience, they say, yeah, maybe

2014
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Speaker 13: top twenty all time. So I don't want to necessarily

2015
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 13: put you on the spot with that question, like could

2016
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 13: Bud Crawford be top three or top fifteen all time?

2017
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 13: But what are these men fighting for in terms of

2018
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 13: their boxing legacies all time? If I could, yeah, I

2019
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 13: think I think it actually is bigger for Canolo's legacy

2020
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Speaker 13: than it is Crawford.

2021
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean Canolo obviously, Cano's legacy is already cemented and

2022
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 2: he's in that argument for greatest an X skin.

2023
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Speaker 3: Boxer of all time with Javez.

2024
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 2: But if he loses to a Terrence Crawford, I think

2025
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 2: there will be a lot of people that say, well.

2026
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 3: You know, Crawford was more skillful that Canel could never

2027
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 3: be a more skillful guy.

2028
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Speaker 2: He lost to Mayweather, he had controversial decisions over Austin

2029
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,600
Speaker 2: Trout and Arizontai Lara, and you know the Trible g

2030
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 2: fights were not so clear cut, especially the first one.

2031
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 2: So do you think there's a lot of riding on

2032
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: it for Canelo and for Crawford. I think the key

2033
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 2: really is that this has to be a good exciting

2034
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 2: fight because Crawford's a lot smaller, and a lot of

2035
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 2: times we see that, right when the smaller guys move

2036
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 2: up and wait, they don't really want to engage. And

2037
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 2: for me, all I could think of, right the Mayweather

2038
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 2: Pakia fight. Nobody ever really talks about how great a

2039
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 2: performance was for Mayweather or that Mayweather won. All we

2040
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 2: ever talked about is how does the point in that

2041
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 2: fight was? So I think if we can get a

2042
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 2: great exciting fight, especially with all the eyeballs, I think,

2043
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 2: you know, that's the key for these for these two

2044
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 2: guys here.

2045
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 13: And before I let you go, you're going to be

2046
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,719
Speaker 13: part of the coverage team of course on Netflix September

2047
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 13: third teenth, just as a fan, right, I mean, what

2048
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 13: are your expectations for this live event? I guess personally

2049
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 13: and professionally, but you've covered a lot of big magnitude events.

2050
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 13: How excited are you to just be in Allegiance Stadium

2051
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 13: and watch this all play out?

2052
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2053
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 3: I'm incredibly excited. And I know you covering the UFC.

2054
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 2: Have you ever done a stadium fight? Because I know

2055
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 2: Dana is always against the stadium fights.

2056
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 1: But we did it.

2057
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 12: You know for Melboyne. Yeah, we did Melbourne, but not

2058
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 12: in the US, you know.

2059
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a totally different experience. I've done a bunch

2060
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 2: of Canolo stadium fights, not as not on the broadcast

2061
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 2: team as a writer, and it just changes everything.

2062
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Speaker 3: I'm really excited for it. I think the under card

2063
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 3: is gonna be pretty good.

2064
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm especially excited for the Christian and Billie Lester Martinez fight.

2065
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a fantastic fight. And I think it's

2066
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 2: gonna be an electric atmosphere and Mexican independency.

2067
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 3: We can in Vegas.

2068
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 13: You can't beat can't beat it, and the rings. My

2069
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 13: Coppinger will be there front of the line. You can

2070
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 13: follow this man on social media at my Coppinger. Appreciate

2071
01:37:58,520 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 13: a few minutes, my man. I look forward to shake

2072
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 13: your hand probably in about a week or so in

2073
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 13: Las Vegas. But thanks so much for the time.

2074
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks fast for the time. Looking forward to it.

2075
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 13: There he is My Coppinger with us here live on

2076
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Speaker 13: the Anakin Flooring podcast.

2077
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Speaker 11: Yeah.

2078
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 13: He mentioned that other fight super midweight on the main card,

2079
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 13: the Cameronian Frenchman Christian and be Ley taking on the

2080
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 13: Guatemalan Lester Martinez who is nineteen and h m BA

2081
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 13: Lee is minus one eighty five Lester Martinez plus one

2082
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 13: forty five. It has been absolutely fascinating for me and

2083
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 13: it is interesting to hear from Mike. I think some

2084
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 13: parallels for both of us. Right, we get ESPN, never

2085
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 13: thought we would leave, and then sort of the combat

2086
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 13: sports world takes over. But you know, there was a

2087
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 13: time in my career where I was defending boxing against

2088
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 13: this MMA avalanche and I was like, fuck MMA, man,

2089
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 13: you know, I mean not really, but it was like,

2090
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 13: hey man, you know, like we were covering boxing and

2091
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,679
Speaker 13: then it's like, why don't you go cover this MMA event?

2092
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 13: And it's like, why don't you fucking have a glass

2093
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 13: to shut the hell up. I'm gonna go cover this

2094
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 13: fall boxing event in New Jersey, you know what I mean.

2095
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 13: And now it's just really wild, you know, twenty two

2096
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 13: years after I first started covering boxing, to get an

2097
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 13: opportunity like this, I'm excited for but uh yeah, it's

2098
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 13: an entirely different world than mixed martial arts, to be sure.

2099
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you.

2100
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Speaker 11: Man.

2101
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: It's a huge, huge fight and you deserve it all right.

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Speaker 13: Plenty more where that came from coming next week thanks

2103
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:21,719
Speaker 13: to Mike Coppinger, Ray Longo, Brian Peatree, Jason Anick, Cody Merrow,

2104
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 13: and the Great Kenny Florian. For more on Kenflow and

2105
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 13: me John Anick dot com Kenny Floridan dot com. You

2106
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,560
Speaker 13: can also download the John Anick app and we'll be

2107
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 13: back with you next week. All hands on deck as

2108
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 13: we go full throttle on the preview for Notes a

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Speaker 13: UFC and also Canelo V Crawford Live on Netflix with

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Speaker 13: that for kem Flum, John Anick, thanks for being here

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Speaker 13: live for a couple of hours. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 13: next Monday. Until then, you O fucking later, Kenny Floyan,

2113
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Speaker 13: I got a baby.

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Speaker 3: We