1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition of the program, 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: and boy, oh boy, do we have some things lined 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: up for you. Given the fact that Mother's Day is Sunday, 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: our moms. I'm a little bit nervous about this because 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I have no idea what they might say, and I 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: don't want Bucker had to get canceled over what moms 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: might say. But our moms are gonna be on the 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: show live and two thirty at the end of the 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: week to roll into Mother's Day weekend. I think you 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: guys will enjoy that. We've got Anne Culter swinging by. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: We'll talk with our friend Frank Siller at Tunnel to Towers, 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: But we begin with the continued unraveling of everything COVID related. 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Yesterday afternoon, what we have referred to as the spirit 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: airlines of the COVID shots, the one that our own 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton got so that he can attend his brother's 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: wedding was effectively pulled from the market because it was unsafe. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: And I want you to just think about what that means. 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Our government was mandating that people get these COVID shots. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: One hundred percent healthy people or they lose their job. 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: And now they are saying, oh wait, these shots actually 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: have potentially significant health consequences for healthy people who never 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: needed the shots in the first place. And all of 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: this combines with the fact that our government told us 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: two COVID shots would solve everything and keep us from 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: getting and spreading the virus. Buck. They told us it 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: wasn't safe for our kids to go to school in person, 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: even though it was. They told us that we all 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: had to wear masks to stop the spread of COVID, 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: even though masks didn't work, including by the way, two 31 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: year olds. All of that was wrong. And if you dared, 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: as Buck and I did, to call into question any 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: of this, you were labeled a purveyor of disinformation and 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: you were in danger of having the full throated roar 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: of the mainstream Checkmark Blue Checkmark brigade members come after you, 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: and their cohorts in the mainstream media could decide that 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: they were going to try to docks you. You weren't 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: allowed to say any of this. And our friend Ran 39 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: Paul Senator from Kentucky pointed out something that is quite true, 40 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: and we've been saying on this program for some time. 41 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: Even as they are creating a Ministry of truth, the 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: biggest purveyors of disinformation in this country over the past 43 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: several years has actually been your federal government, particularly in 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: this COVID era. Listen to Senator Ran Paul make the case. 45 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: We can't even agree what disinformation is is. You can't 46 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: even agree that it was disinformation that the Russians fed 47 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: information to the Steel dossier. If you can't agree to that, 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: how are we ever going to come to an agreement 49 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: on what is information so you can police it on 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: social media. I think you've got no idea what disinformation is, 51 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: and I don't think the government's capable of it. Do 52 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: you know that the greatest propagator of disinformation in the 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: history of the world is the US government. Are you 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: familiar with mcnamaram, the Pentagon Papers? Are you familiar with 55 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: George W. Bush and the weapons of mass destruction? Are 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: you familiar with Iran Contra? I mean, think of all 57 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: the debates and disputes we've had over the last fifty 58 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: years in our country. We work them out by debating them. 59 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: We don't work them out by the government being the arbitrar. 60 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to govern card Rails, I want you 61 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: to have nothing to do with speech. You think we 62 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: can't determine, you know, speech by traffickers is disinformation. Do 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: you think the American people are so stupid they need 64 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: you to tell them what the truth is. You can't 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: even admit what the truth is with the Steele dossier. 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: I don't trust government to figure out what the truth is. 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: Government is largely disseminating disinformation. And yet here we are 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: being told Clay that there should be a disinformation Governance 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Board within the Department of Homeland Security, that we shouldn't 70 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: all think that that's something to be really concerned about. 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: That the left will sit around and claim that there's 72 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 1: a constitutional right as we know to abortion that will 73 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: be infringed upon when there no longer is a constitutional 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: right if the Supreme Court decision comes down, but free 75 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: speech rights, they don't actually believe in that there is 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: a First Amendment. It is quite clear freedom of speech 77 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: is there. It is in the text, it is in 78 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: the basis. It is the really the basis of English 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: common law in so many ways, and has been for 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: hundreds of years. And yet that's a right that they 81 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: entirely nullify Negate whenever they feel like it, even on 82 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: core political and policy issues. I mean, the notion of 83 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: vaccines in this country as beyond the realm of discussion 84 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: when you're mandating vaccines is so contra the heart of 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. It was such an egregious trampling of 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: free speech. And it wasn't just corporations engaged in this. 87 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: It was corporations at the behest and encouragement of directly 88 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: from the White House. They trampled on free speech rights. 89 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: And not only did they do that, they trampled on 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: them and were wrong, which is the part I think 91 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: that we have to hammer home. And they're saying, Johnson, Johnson, now, buck, 92 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: what's gonna come out in the future about the Maderna 93 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: and the Visor vaccines. This was such a radical, unprecedented 94 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: idea that a company would get guaranteed buy in mandated 95 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: by the government to a for profit company. Look at 96 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: the money that Maderna and Visor have made off the 97 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: COVID shots. And now they're suddenly circling back around and saying, well, 98 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: you know that Johnson and Johnson, these these negative side 99 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: effects which they claimed didn't exist, and you weren't able 100 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: to discuss for a long time. They're real and we 101 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: don't recommend people getting the Johnson and Johnson shot. Well, 102 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: how many millions of people, a lot of them listening 103 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: to us right now, were compelled to get that Johnson 104 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: and Johnson shot in order to be able to keep 105 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: their jobs, And now they're saying you shouldn't have done that. 106 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: The health benefits don't weigh in your favor. Buck, you 107 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: were mandated in order to go to your brother's wedding, 108 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: you went and got the Johnson and Johnson shot. It's 109 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: something that you would have never chosen to do otherwise, 110 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: but for governmental action mandated on you to be able 111 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: to go to that wedding. It was worse than that. 112 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: In the city of New York, you had to get 113 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: the shot to go into your job. If you were 114 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: working in an office building of any kind, you're not allowed. 115 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: And no office building in the city would let you 116 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: in without proof of vaccination for months and months at 117 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: a time. So if you were going to be a 118 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: New York City resident and still do your job, and 119 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: unless you were at a company that was going to 120 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: make special accommodations for you to work from home or whatever, 121 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: you had to get the shot or else. It was 122 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: this shot or else. Now the federal government is finally 123 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: admitting officially it was get this shot that didn't last 124 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: for more than a couple of months. Anyway, you probably 125 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: didn't need and actually did put you at risk for 126 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: thrombo cytopenia syndrome thrombosis with thrombocytopenia a blood clot that 127 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: can kill you. Yeah, did actually put you at risk 128 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: for that. The government said you must get this or else, 129 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: and the social media giant said, how dare you bring 130 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: this up? We will. I got dinged, I got shut down, 131 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I got suspended. I had to fight with them on 132 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: Twitter on Facebook for exactly these kinds of discussions. Our 133 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: friend Alex Parts had got booted off on Twitter forever 134 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: for saying that the vaccines don't work that well and 135 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: actually have more side effects than they want to be 136 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: honest about. You don't have to do all this stuff, 137 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: but oh you're not a doctor. First of all, the doctors, 138 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: the medical community that was a part of all this 139 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: stuff failed us. Let us down. I'm sorry. There was 140 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: a systematic cowardice of the public health experts who push 141 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: this stuff. They would not speak the truth to people, 142 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: even these surgeon general. Now you see this Surgeon General 143 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: Clay is saying, yeah, we probably should have had a 144 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: more honest discussion about COVID and the risk and everything 145 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: goes Now they're saying this now that it's all over. Basically, 146 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: not only this, Buck, we gave these drug companies immunity 147 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: from lawsuit. And I don't think a lot of people 148 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: are even talking about this, but we now know that 149 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: there were severe consequences for people who are otherwise healthy 150 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: that got the Johnson and Johnson shot. And I'm concerned 151 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: that the more stories are going to continue to come 152 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: out about the Maderna and the Visor shots and you 153 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: can't even sue. People say, well, why does that matter? Well, oftentimes, Buck, 154 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: lawsuits against drug companies are how we become aware of 155 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: what they knew, when they knew it, and the overall 156 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: risk parameters, because these drug companies often try to cover 157 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: up any sort of negative influences that come from their 158 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: drug And I'm not talking just about the COVID shots. 159 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the entire history of the drug industry 160 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: in America. Look at how many class action lawsuits have 161 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: ultimately been brought against companies, and the government gave them 162 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: immunity from being sued. They guaranteed them billions of dollars 163 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: in profits. They mandated that many of us had to 164 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: get these shots in order to be able to keep 165 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: our jobs, or to go to school, or to go 166 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: to events. And now we're finding out there was no 167 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: reason for this. And by the way, Bill Gates was 168 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: one of the top proponents of the COVID shot. And 169 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: now Bill Gates is coming out and saying, well, turns 170 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: out COVID wasn't as dangerous to most healthy people as 171 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: we thought it might have been. Did he never look 172 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: at the data? Here he is, We've been We've been 173 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: talking about this for years. Buck, this is pretty easy 174 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: data to look at. But here's our buddy, Bill Gates, 175 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: walking pregnant man emoji. Here he was in a meeting 176 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: that experts at the Foundation said, there's no way, you know, 177 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: there's been too much travel without diagnosis for us to 178 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: contain this. And then at that point, we didn't really 179 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: understand the fatality rate, you know, we didn't understand that 180 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: it's a fairly low fatality rate, and that it's a 181 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: deceased mainly of the elderly kind of like fluids, although 182 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: a bit different than that. So that was pretty scary 183 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: period where the world didn't go on alert, including the 184 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: United States, nearly as fast as it needed to Clay, 185 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: this is a lie, and it's a lie that's obvious 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: for so many reasons. One is that we can go 187 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: back in our own respective shows tweets. You and I knew. 188 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm not formerly the richest man in the world. You 189 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: know an epidemiologist either, bucket. I might upgrade my electric 190 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: scooter at some point to an actual automobile, but you know, 191 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: because things go well. But you and I knew somehow, 192 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: why didn't they know? And in fact, in twenty twenty, 193 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: in February of twenty twenty, I want to remind everybody 194 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: that the Prince of the Diamond Princess cruise ship was 195 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: essentially a perfect encapsulation of what COVID is, which is 196 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: that there were three thousand, seven hundred people roughly on board. Okay, 197 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: seven hundred became infected. This virus is very contagious. Seven 198 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: hundred became infected and there were seven they think there 199 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: were seven deaths total of senior citizens. At the time, 200 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: it was all older It was older people so we 201 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: had some sense of what the actual fatality rate was. 202 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: Now I actually think the seven deaths is way high 203 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: if you looked at comorbidities and what they actually died of, 204 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: what did they die of COVID. But it's it's astonishing 205 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: to see that they act like we didn't know in 206 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: the beginning that this was not danger to young people, 207 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: that the fatality rate was going to be very low overall. 208 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: And if you look at doctor Eunidas, I'm not sure. 209 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: I say it sounds like I'm talking about the football guy, right, 210 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: but it's John Eunidas from Stanford University. He essentially said, look, 211 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: we're looking at it, probably about a point one to 212 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: point zero one fatality rate, something in that range. Early on, 213 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: that was in the very beginning we did know, and 214 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: now we know no matter what we've done, Basically, the 215 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: only way we've gotten through this is by everybody getting it. 216 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: Seventy five percent of kids have got it, some huge 217 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: percentage of people under the age of sixty five and 218 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: all of this, I don't know how you trust the 219 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: government anymore. And I do think buck unfortunately, that there 220 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: will be more acknowledgement of Maderna and Fiser related issues too. 221 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: The Johnson and Johnson is the canary in the coal 222 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: mine as it pertains to the COVID shots. And again, 223 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: it is madness that we have even in the midst 224 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: of this the Biden administration, which has spread more misinformation 225 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: on COVID than anyone and been proven wrong on COVID 226 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: more than almost anyone, is going to argue that they 227 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: are the arbiters of what science is and what's acceptable 228 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: to say and what's not acceptable to say. It's infuriating, 229 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: it really is. We'll continue to break this down for 230 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: you and more. But first I want to tell you 231 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: all about the tunnel of the Towers Foundation. 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They've 261 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: already been doing it through social media, but they're worried 262 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: that maybe with Twitter going into Elon's hands and becoming 263 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: a true free speech platform, they won't have quite the 264 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: same ability to police disinformation. So they're looking for other 265 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: ways to shore up that advantage, and that has included 266 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: Soviet Mary Poppins over at DHS. Here's the kind of 267 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: stuff that she says. And I just want to let 268 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: you know it's not an accident that as much as 269 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: may Orcus, the DHS chief may say, oh, we didn't 270 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: know that we had a left wing announced her pronouns 271 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: loon in this disinformation role. Oh no, no, that's a 272 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: requirement for the job under the Biden administration. Trust me here, 273 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: she is false or misleading information that uses gendered trope. 274 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: So it might be, for instance, this is a big 275 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: one that we tracked in the report, Kamala Harris slept 276 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: her way to the top. I might see racist tropes 277 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: about ilhan Omar is a favorite for this sort of 278 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: racist sexual rhetoric that's compounded the idea that she married 279 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: her brother to immigrate to the United States. For instance, 280 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: but then we see racialized to narratives, things like hashtag 281 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: Kamala Ain't black is one that we tracked things that 282 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: are saying that she's not black enough, she's not South 283 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Asian enough to claim that heritage. Same thing goes against AOC. 284 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Those same narratives about Kamala Harris, about women in general 285 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: in the West were echoed in domestic Russian disinformation. Oh 286 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: so that's now, that's the kind of disinformation that this 287 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: disinformation ZAR thinks should be police put put aside. You know, 288 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's obviously different things you could say about 289 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: disinformation policing in general. I would just note that what 290 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: she's actually like when someone says, and I'm not making 291 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: this claim, but she says, Kamala Harris slapt her way 292 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: to the top, that's disinformation. You might say that's a 293 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: mean thing to say, and it's untrue, but that's an opinion. 294 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: It's actually not disinformation. It's and by the way, it's 295 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: as if you're not allowed to say she was Willy 296 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: Brown's girlfriend. That's how she became a player in California politics. 297 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: And by the way, Willy Brown was married to somebody else, 298 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: so she was his side chick. It was widely known, 299 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: so you may not believe that that's the reasons, but yeah, 300 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: it's kind of a significant, kind of a significant detail, uh, 301 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: that she had that relationship and it propelled her political 302 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: career because Willy Brown was a powerful guy. Now you 303 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: may not call that sleep into the top, but that's 304 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: not a crazy allegation. It's not disa But let's see. 305 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: What you find out is that what the left disinformation 306 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: is anything the left does not like. That's what the 307 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: term to them actually means. 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Encourage you to subscribe to the podcast. You 335 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: can starch out my name Clay Travis and starch out 336 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Boom could be well in your way of 337 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: being able to ensure that you get to listen to 338 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: every single minute of all fifteen hours a week that 339 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: we hang out with you guys. So obviously Monday night, 340 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: the political story Justice Alito's opinion leaks, and the discussion 341 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: surrounding it almost immediately turns to who leaked, what was 342 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: the reason for it, but also the danger involved in 343 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: that leak. And this is why Buck I've been arguing 344 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: what should happen is they should go ahead and release 345 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: this opinion, and also Justice Roberts should join the opinion. 346 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: Make it six three, so we're not sitting at five 347 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: to four, because given how much intensity and the feverish 348 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: nature of opinions associated with Roe v. Wade, my concern 349 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: is for the safety of the five justices right now 350 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: in the majority in that Alito opinion, because if one 351 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: of those justices were attacked by some crazy left wing loon, 352 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: then there could be significant consequences to them. Potentially they 353 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: could be assassinated, right. I mean, this is an awful 354 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: thing to have to talk about, But this is why 355 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: the leak was so dangerous to everybody on the court 356 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: and why I think Chief Justice Roberts should sign on 357 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: to the opinion. Make it six three, so it's not 358 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: one person that is making a decision five four. Make 359 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: it sixty three and go ahead and put it out. 360 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: So the opinion stands. Okay, we know buck. Now there 361 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: are a lot of people that are doxing where the 362 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices live, and there are threats that they 363 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: are going to be going to their house. It seems 364 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: like an easy thing to say that is inappropriate. We 365 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: do not believe that should happen. Jen Psaki was asked 366 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: about it and this is what she had to say. Well, 367 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: eventually here with the home addresses of the Supreme Court justices, 368 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: is that the kind of thing this president wants to 369 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: help your side make their point. Look, I think the 370 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: president's view is that there's a lot of passion, a 371 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: lot of fear, a lot of sadness from many many 372 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: people across this country about what they saw in that 373 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: leaked document. There's a lot of cowardice from Jen Psaki 374 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: from this White House. What's really going on here is 375 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: they know that the activists left and the donor base 376 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party and if you've seen some of 377 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: the money, when you start to look and see how 378 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: much money there is in the pro abortion lobby in 379 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: this country, it's huge. And for Democrat politicians, this is 380 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: a source of funds that they are not willing to 381 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: cross right, So even in a moment like this, they 382 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: don't want to say this. White House will not say 383 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: anything that upsets the activist pro abortion left, even if 384 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: it means refusing to stand with Supreme Court justices who 385 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: are are clearly under enhanced. I mean, imagine if this 386 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: was being done in a different context for Democrat politicians. 387 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: Imagine that there were groups, you know, people, people with 388 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: MAGA hats on, who were gathered together and putting out, hey, 389 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: here's where the following Democrat politicians live. We don't want 390 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: them to pass this legislation that's coming up, so go 391 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: circle their house and threaten them. There would be that 392 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: we would be told that this was worse than the insurrection. 393 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: We'd be told that this was growth of January. In 394 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Trump's America, Trump's Republican Party. You know exactly what they 395 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: would say. And that's why I think I speak for 396 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: both of us, Buck. I don't think anybody, regardless of 397 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: their politics, should have people showing up at their homes 398 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: screaming at them, yelling at them. Actually what I so, 399 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: I lived in DC for part of Trump's I lived 400 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: there for about half of Trump's four years right, and 401 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: and there were there were a series of protests that 402 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: would occur because they were I found out they were 403 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: looking for actually our friend. I don't even know if 404 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: he knows this. I should have told Stephen this. They 405 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: thought that they were protesting Stephen Miller's apartment, but they 406 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: were actually protesting under my window. They didn't know why. 407 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: I was thinking that that was the side because we 408 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: lived in the same building, thinking that that was the 409 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: side where Stephen Miller was. And these lunatics would show 410 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: up and bang pots and hit the time would they 411 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: be there, like what was that experience? Like, oh, in 412 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: the evening, you know, I mean they would usually get 413 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: tired at some point. I think the cops would eventually say, like, 414 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: you can't keep people up all night because it was 415 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: in this isn't downtown DC. This isn't it you know, 416 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: this in a city. Um. But but also during the 417 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: Trump administration, it was very not only was it normalized. 418 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: I know, Democrats, we could go back, we could pull 419 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: the tape, Democrat pundits, Democrat politics. Remember when Maxine Waters 420 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: was like getting their face confront them. I mean, this 421 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: is when you weren't allowed to eat in a restaurant. 422 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: Swing you were Sarah Huckabee Sanders the I can't remember 423 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: a name, but she was then. I think it was 424 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: the DHS acting chief under Trump, Boy, there were women 425 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: females actually, who were seenior Trump administration officials who had 426 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: lunatic mobs chased them screaming their faces, and restaurants threatened them. 427 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: I remember there was a place Ted Cruz got chased 428 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: out of a place byrtics and then that Italian restaurant, 429 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: actually I forget the name of it um. I think 430 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: it might have been Fiola in DC. They actually invited 431 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: him back and said, sir, you know, we're sorry about 432 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: what happened. So you know, they tried to make amends 433 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: for the lunacy that occurred there. It was normalized under Trump. 434 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: This doesn't happen to Buide administration officials because I hate, 435 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: I hate. There's just more psychopaths on the other side. Friends. 436 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: Their ideology embraces emotion, a psychopathy, and they won't rain 437 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: them in jen Psaki won't tell them to cut it out. 438 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: I also think that Republicans, I mean, I don't see 439 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: how regardless of politics, if you're showing up, I mean, 440 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: I think this happened to Josh Holly, Senator from Missouri. 441 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: People showed up, and has certainly happened to Tucker Carlson. 442 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: But they had kids in the house, right and the 443 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: protesters show up and start beating on the door or 444 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: chanting outside. This is really indefensible behavior to me, regardless 445 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: of what you think of someone's politics Democrat, Republican, Independent, 446 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: that you would show up at someone's home is totally wrong. 447 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: And the fact that Jen Saki won't say, hey, we 448 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: understand that there's a high level of emotion going on 449 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: right now, but it's not appropriate to show up at 450 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: people's private residences and scream and yell at them. Because 451 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: here's what you do, buck You create situations where violence 452 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: is more likely. Right when you put people in proximity 453 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: to those Supreme Court justice homes. I hope that they 454 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: have a great deal of security with them right now, 455 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: but your typical Supreme Court justice is not protected to 456 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: my understanding, by Secret Service. I hope they have it now, 457 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: but usually US marshall protection. But they can go back 458 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: and forth without having to have a security well, they 459 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: don't have. It's not like the Secret Service with the 460 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: President anything. Yeah, and so my hope is that they've 461 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: increased the overall security presence that they have there. But 462 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: this is really, really an awful thing to not be 463 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: willing to condemn. This is a radical position that Jensaki 464 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: should be ashamed of. And to me, it ties in buck. 465 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: Remember when Biden refused to condemn people following Senator Kirsten 466 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: Cinema into the bathroom and beating on the doors and 467 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: chanting at her over her opinions on build back better 468 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: and beyond. This is crazy not to be accepted behavior. 469 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: And then on radical position, I mean, this is a 470 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: radical position. But we should come back and talk about 471 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: how this White House responds to a very straightforward question 472 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: on this issue of what do Democrats really believe when 473 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: it comes to abortion. What do they actually think should 474 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: be codified into federal law now through Congress. That's what 475 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: they're talking about. This White House should have a very 476 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: clear answer. We will come back and tell you what 477 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: the White House through the soon to depart. By the way, 478 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: she's about to get a job at IT. I think 479 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: she's getting a show at MSNBC. Jensaki's right, and her 480 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: replacement is a female African American black woman which is 481 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: a big deal of it. And well, just get ready, 482 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: any criticism of the White House Press Secretary going forward 483 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: is going to be is going to be a homophobic 484 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: and racist. Just be ready for that. Anything that Clay 485 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: and I say, criticizing the words that come out of 486 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: the White House Press Secretary going forward is evidence of 487 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: bigotry and being a bad person. 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And she knows the crazy left, she understands 524 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: their ways. This should be very straightforward, just as a 525 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: matter of course for a White House Press secretary to 526 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: be asked a yes or no question? You know, does 527 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: the President think of it this way? If I were 528 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: in that room, And a credit credit to Peter Doocey 529 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: for doing this for you know, representing Fox News so 530 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: well and asking real questions. I mean, there are a 531 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: couple of other people who get some good questions in 532 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: to be fair, but consistently, Peter is really the one 533 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: who finds out what they don't necessarily want to be 534 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: talking about our answering, which you think speaking truth to 535 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: power is the whole point of this journalism thing, but no, 536 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: actually it's regime media. When a lib is in the 537 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: office and we do have to talk claim the next 538 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: hour about Joe Biden's prompter being so big that he 539 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: can't actually like we mentioned that yesterday, right, what was 540 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: it wednesday that we talked about? This is because when 541 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned that, I said, you've got to be kidding men. 542 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Then I went and looked up the story, as I 543 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: tend to do, and yeah, no, it's it's a real thing, folks. 544 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden now has he's entered that phase where anyway there, Well, 545 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the giant prompter thing in a moment 546 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: that that's a little bit more of a fun one, 547 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: although not so great when Russia is starting to talk 548 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: about using nuclear weapons and we have a president who 549 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: is clearly not up for this is clearly I hate 550 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: throwing the term senile around because but he is in 551 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: the early stages of serious cognitive decline. It's obvious to anyway, anyway, 552 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: we'll get there. Jen Psaki has asked a very straightforward question. 553 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: It's not not a complicated thing. How does President Biden, 554 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: leader of the free world? What does he think as 555 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: the chief executive of the United States government about abortion? 556 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: On the issue of whether abortion should be legal at 557 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: all stages, all nine months of a pregnancy. It is 558 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: a yes or no question. If I ask Jen Psaki, 559 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: does President Biden think that the corporate tax rate should 560 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: go up? It's a yes or no. It's not well, 561 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: the President has talked about the corporate No. No, This 562 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: is a yes or no question. Does Joe Biden on 563 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: the issue of abortion, have support any restrictions? Here is 564 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: the absurdly support any limits on abortion right now? Peter, 565 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: the President has spoken has talked about his position many times. 566 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: He supports the right of a woman to make choices 567 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: about her own body with her doctor. But I know 568 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: that one of the Democrats that he endorsed and who 569 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: won their primary this week, Tim Ryan, said yesterday that 570 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: he does not support any limits on abortion. Is that 571 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: where the president is thinking is now? The President has 572 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: stated his view many times. Well, the President support abortion 573 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: up until the moment of first The President has spoken 574 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: about this many times, Peter, and I would refer you 575 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: to his own comments about abortion and a woman's right 576 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: to choose and make decisions about her body with her doctor, 577 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: which is what any of those women would do. Did 578 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: you catch an answer. I didn't catch an answer. No. 579 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: And to me, this is where a Republicans should be 580 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: hammering on this. And this is why I think all 581 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: fifty states being able to make their own policies as 582 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: it pertains to abortion is actually going to get us 583 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: to a real conversation here because we were talking about 584 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: this off Airbuck everybody can have a variety of different perspectives. 585 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: For instance, a lot of people are going to say, hey, 586 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm okay with an exemption when it's rape, incest, or 587 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: health of a murder, health of a mother. That's a 588 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: small number of potential abortions. But I think a lot 589 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: of people out there listening to us right now, I 590 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: would be one of them, would say, hey, I believe 591 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: in exemptions there. Similarly, I think almost everyone, all political persuasions, 592 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: believes that if you have an abortion in the ninth 593 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: month of a pregnancy, that's murder. Yep. And Democrats like 594 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: Tim Ryan, I think we were talking about this yesterday 595 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: Beto in Texas. Didn't he come out and basically say 596 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: that he supports abortion all the way to the ninth 597 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: month for anyone that has had children, when you are 598 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: going through looking at sonograms, watching babies move inside of 599 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: bellies and everything else, eight or nine month or seven month, 600 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: when these kids are viable outside of the mother's body, 601 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: to me, that's murder. And I think the vast majority 602 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: of the American public agrees. And so this is the 603 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: kind of conversation instead of arguing, hey, what does Roe v. 604 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: Wade mean? Is the Supreme Court opinion right. These are 605 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: the kinds of conversations and a lot of them are 606 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: going to be uncomfortable that politicians and individual voters need 607 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: to be having as it pertains to what abortion law 608 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: should exist in their states. And if Democrats are going 609 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: to say you can one hour before you otherwise would 610 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: be having a delivered baby decide that you want to 611 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: have an abortion, that's an a radical proposition. And if 612 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: Tim Ryan is saying it, and if Beto is saying it, 613 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: and if Jensaki is avoiding trying to say it, they 614 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: know that the vast majority of American public doesn't agree 615 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: with that proposition. There's been a narrative for a long 616 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: time that I think is part of an attempt to 617 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: politically blackmail, if you will, the right, to scare the 618 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: right off to say, oh well, if Rowe is overturned, 619 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: then all the no. Actually, I don't think we're going 620 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: to see that. I think that's been a very convenient 621 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: story to try to get people to back off of this. 622 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of a lot of evangelicals 623 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: in the country, a lot of conservative conservative Catholics, or 624 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: I just mean Catholics who believe in Catholic Orthodoxy, a 625 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: lot of people in the pro life movement, a lot 626 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: of Mormons, a lot of people who believe very strongly 627 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: in this on the pro life side. Now I'm not 628 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: saying they're going to be you know, they're going to 629 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: it'll largely I think cancel out as a voting issue. 630 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Precide all the moral questions is a voting issue. I 631 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna make that much of a difference. 632 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: But there is going to be a challenge in states 633 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: like California or in Colorado, which is not a you 634 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: don't think you know it's blue purple to blue. Colorado 635 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: has passed a radical abortion law at the state level 636 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: all nine months of a pregnancy, any reason or no reason. 637 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: States are now going to have to justify it beyond 638 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: saying it's the law of the land because of the Constitution, 639 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,959 Speaker 1: which is going to force exactly what you're talking about, Clay, 640 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: which is this discussion, this argument. And I think the 641 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: left is going to lose a lot of ground on this. 642 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we may there may be a lot 643 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: of states, including states that are read where they say 644 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: fetal heartbeat, you've got you know, you've got twelve weeks 645 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: or you've got that may be what the law turns into. 646 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: It's not going to be in a lot of these places, 647 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: all nine months of a pregnancy, because I mean, I 648 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: just I mentioned this before. I have a friend who 649 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: just had a baby two months premature, two months. It's 650 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: a baby that's a month seven. So you know, the left, 651 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: it's scary, Clay what they're willing to argue. It honestly is, 652 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: and they need to be held accountable for it, and 653 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: they need to have to answer these questions. They shouldn't 654 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: be able to tap dance around them like Jinsaki did. 655 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: We got a loaded couple of hours rolling you into 656 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: Friday's edition of the program, and Culture is going to 657 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: join us. Our moms are going to be here Frank 658 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: Siller from Tunnel to Towers to talk about the great 659 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: work he's doing. We appreciate you hanging out with us 660 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: on Great Friday as we roll into it will hopefully 661 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: be a perfect weekend. Come two more hours to roll sleet. 662 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.