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Speaker 1: On the day he was inaugurated, Biden signed an executive

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Speaker 1: order rescinding Trump's emergency declaration at the southern border and

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Speaker 1: ending some use of the DoD funding Trump had relied

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Speaker 1: upon as an end run around accountability, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: as he promised he would stop building immediately.

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Speaker 2: During the Biden Obama administration, Trump campaigned on build that wall.

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Speaker 3: Are you willing to tear that wall down?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: There will not be another foot of wall constructed on

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Speaker 5: my administration.

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Speaker 3: Number one.

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Speaker 1: Like so much else, Biden didn't live up to his

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Speaker 1: promises on the border. There have been some small victories

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Speaker 1: for basic decency, but Biden's record is deeply mixed. He's

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Speaker 1: reunited hundreds of children with their families that ended court

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Speaker 1: negotiations about a financial settlement for them. Migrant apprehensions climbed

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Speaker 1: to one point seven million, a record in fiscal year

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, but they also reflected an unusually high

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Speaker 1: That's because Biden's administration defended Trump's use of Title forty two,

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Speaker 1: part of a seventy seven year old law called the

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Speaker 1: Public Health Service Act, which has been interpreted to allow

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Speaker 1: CBP to release migrants back into Mexico without booking them.

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Speaker 1: Often this means they turn right back around across again

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Speaker 1: in a more remote and often more deadly place. Biden

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Speaker 1: hasn't lived up to his promises on the wall either.

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Speaker 1: Mariana showed us a pile of wall sections, essentially giant

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Speaker 1: can be forgiven for thinking they're identical, but these, she explained,

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Speaker 1: were not technically wall.

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Speaker 5: And you see the border wall that was being constructed there.

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Speaker 5: Some of it has the tall ballards with the anti

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Speaker 3: And then the short.

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Speaker 5: Calling this levy repair and guard rail. Well.

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Speaker 1: I snapped moody black and white photos of the wall

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Speaker 1: from on top of a levee, as I have all

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Speaker 1: through like an open wound. Robert went down to see

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Speaker 1: who made these new pieces of the Biden barrier, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't have much luck finding a label.

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Speaker 2: The wall segments lay out in giant palettes surrounded by

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Speaker 2: construction debris and dirt. Repalet is labeled, and so are

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Speaker 2: all the shipping containers. But the wall materials themselves had

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Speaker 2: no clear maker's mark on them. As we walked back

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Speaker 2: along the dirt road, we asked Marianna about the video

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Speaker 2: that brought us here in the first place. If you

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Speaker 2: haven't seen it, it's a video of Kimberly Low, a

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Speaker 2: long odds MAGA congressional candidate from Virginia. Kimberly is an

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Speaker 2: interesting figure. She started out as a Sanders backer in

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and has radicalized a sense to such a

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Speaker 2: to do with her. Some of them think she's some

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Speaker 2: kind of double agent. Audio from the incident makes it

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Speaker 2: clear why people might view Kimberly as unhinged.

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Speaker 3: We are not here to cause any problems, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: No, you are here to promote your agenda, and your

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Speaker 5: agenda is not welcome here, thank you. So you're not

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Speaker 5: for keeping the illegals out, so that has all these

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Speaker 3: That's what we're here. That's next trafficked and raped.

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Speaker 5: That is not at all what this is about. We

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have children in the car it's safe here anyway.

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Speaker 3: We're not here to it now.

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Speaker 5: You're you're here to make a show and to promote

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Speaker 3: So you can leave now. Thank you for leaving now,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much. But I'm sorry that you're okay

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Speaker 5: So I'm not okay with any of that, and your

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to go help the world. Boy, I

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Speaker 2: We'll let Marianna explain what happened.

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Speaker 5: So I was sitting here, actually at the conference table,

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Speaker 5: People like betto or Work when he was a congressman

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Speaker 5: I've had I've had people come visit and they don't

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Speaker 5: and the congressional rep I asked my son get her name,

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Speaker 5: And my son said, they want us to open the

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Speaker 5: Facebook page, I could see their Facebook live stream from

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Speaker 5: you know, we have a great, big private property no

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Speaker 5: Then they came here demanding that they be granted access

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Speaker 2: The rafts they were talking about were referencing a doctored

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I.

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Speaker 5: Put my phone on record, carried it out there. I

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Speaker 2: That didn't work, so she asked them to leave.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was when I told them they needed to

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Speaker 3: Which he did, and they were like, no, no, we're leaving.

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Speaker 5: They went out the front doors, but then they stopped,

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Speaker 5: so I opened the door behind them, like, keep it moving, ladies,

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Speaker 5: When I turned and Kimberly was on this side of

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Speaker 5: I do not want my photo taken. I do not

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Speaker 5: because of how Coal, Fashion, Bannon and their fake news

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Speaker 5: So she's standing there going we're here at the Butterflies

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Speaker 5: Sanctuary or whatever she called it, and I'm with this

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Speaker 5: And then I immediately turned back toward the doors to

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Speaker 3: But then my son busted out of the building.

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Speaker 2: In a previous video, the women had indicated that they

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Speaker 5: He thought Michelle was going to stomp my face or

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Speaker 3: And she's a big girl.

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Speaker 5: And and at that point Kimberly ran to her car.

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Speaker 5: while Kimberly is again live streaming from her car, yelling

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Speaker 5: But my son had run to close the front gate

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Speaker 2: The center was full of visitors, some of them called

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Speaker 5: Any decent human being to respond to a woman's screaming,

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Speaker 5: And so I relayed all of that to my boss

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Speaker 3: By the stuffio stuff you good.

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Speaker 1: Everywhere we go along the border, we see division. Locals

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Speaker 5: Actually, I didn't have a job.

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Speaker 2: planning to say, you're like probably next to you.

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Speaker 5: You get active duty pay while you're somewhat it's like.

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Speaker 1: Everyone on the border wants to feel safe, including Mariana.

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Speaker 5: You know, really, of all the jobs that a person

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Speaker 5: We want to get back to that, but we have

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Speaker 1: Marianna doesn't know, and she'll feel safe, but even with

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Speaker 5: You know, I feel like it's a cat and mouse thing,

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Speaker 3: Psyche.

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Speaker 5: You know, it goes right back to that winning. You know,

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Speaker 5: Even people just sending really nice email or letters is

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Speaker 3: So to hear from people that do support.

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Speaker 5: Us and stand with us and feel like what's happening

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Speaker 5: is horrible, People who write to say, you know, I

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean and we're going to make a

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Speaker 5: Then they can share our story because it's not just

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Speaker 5: It's about how these operations work to manipulate people with lies. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to call it conspiracy theories or misinformation or.

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Speaker 3: Any of that anymore.

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Speaker 5: They're just lies, and people need to start to understand that.

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Speaker 5: Whether it's about COVID or the Trucker Convoys, or trans

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Speaker 5: Kids or the Butterfly Center, It could Happen here as

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