WEBVTT - Savor Classics: The Split on Sundaes 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.200 Hello, and welcome to Saver, a production of iHeartRadio. I'm 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.040 Lauren Vogelbaum, standing in solo for my co host Annie Reese. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.640 Today she is on break, but we'll be back later 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.560 this week. May the Force be with her always. Today, 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.480 we've got a classic for you on ice cream Sundays. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:29.000 Originally published in September of twenty eighteen. I was thinking 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.840 about this one because we are entering this season here 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.640 in the Northern Hemisphere where people enjoy eating cold things 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:40.519 because it is unforgivably hot outside, and I had forgotten 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.199 how delightful the rivalry in this one really is. So 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.320 without further ado, I will let former Annie and Lauren 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:47.839 take it. 0:00:47.800 --> 0:01:01.960 Away and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Annie Ree's and 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.960 I'm Lauren Vocal Bomb. And today we've got sort of 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.000 a special episode for you. It's about ice cream Sundays. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:10.000 It's a little different, uh huh. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.120 We're going to present it as sort of a trial. Yeah, 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:16.040 our first food stuff trial. I hope there's a lot 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.720 of Law and Order sound effects? Oh yeah, can we 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.360 do that? I actually never seen Law and Order, but 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:22.720 I know the sound effect. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:24.399 But that's all. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.000 We need to get it right there. Yeah, just make 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:31.720 that occasionally pick your spots. But okay, I think we'll 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:32.640 really add to it. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.560 So surely people were topping their ice cream with like 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:44.640 stuff before the ice cream Sunday became a whole thing. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:46.920 Surely it just makes sense. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.200 Really, Oh yeah, I mean ice cream is delicious, other 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:50.840 stuff is delicious. Put them together. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:52.800 Easy as pie. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.440 There's no put ice cream easiest pie a la mode. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.360 But a Sunday is something specific. It is which brings 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.000 us to our question what is it? 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.000 Well, I would say, okay, this is Lauren's. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:12.280 Okay, I would say, then ice cream Sunday requires at 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.960 least two scoops of ice cream if it's scooped. If not, 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.800 then I guess that just goes right out the window. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.079 Soft syruf anyway, two scoops of ice cream, some kind 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.080 of sweet syrup or other like liquid sauce like hot 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:28.280 fudge as a topping, and then a second kind of 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.760 topping for like texture or just punctuation like sprinkles or 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:36.440 chopped nuts or like a marachino cherry on top. Some people, 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.240 like Dairy Queen would a search that you don't need 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.880 anything after that that liquid topping for it to be 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.640 a Sunday. Their base Sunday is just ice cream and 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.320 liquid topping. Everything else costs extra. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:55.079 I see, But anyway, you're not mad about that at all. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.920 I'm not mad about it. I just don't think that 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.360 it's a Sunday unless it has two distinct tops things. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.440 Okay, I see, okay. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.120 But anyway, after those basic needs are met, you've got 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.760 a lot of room for possibilities. You know, whipped cream, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.600 candy of whatever kind, whole or chopped fresh fruit, fruit compot, 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.040 that chocolate sauce that you know hardens when it hits 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:15.840 the ice cream. Oh, I kind of love that stuff, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.120 even though it creeps me out, don't We. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.359 All love foods that are just kind of creepy when 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.760 we think about them. Yep, yep. As you can imagine, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.320 we humans add all sorts of toppings to Sundays these days, 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:33.160 from fries in Japan to bacon, and we also make 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.320 huge ones like the Great Pyramid from Cabots ice Cream 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.040 in Massachusetts. It comes in a bowl almost two feet 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.280 in diameter, loaded with sixty pints of ice cream pints, 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:48.080 sixty pints, sixty pints, and twelve quarts of toppings. Oh 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.760 my goodness, and on top of those toppings, you add 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:55.440 what I would call other toppings, but they don't whipped cream, nuts, marshmallows, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.320 and a cherry on top. And allegedly it serves you 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.960 and one hundred and seventy f or of your pals. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.480 Oh wow, I don't have one hundred and seventy four friends. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.080 I don't think not that I want to eat a 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:08.280 single bowl of ice cream with. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.040 I'm gonna get multiple bowls if I got this thing. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.480 I'm just gonna be straight with everybody. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.880 I've I've shared a very large ice cream Sunday with 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.640 maybe like six of my friends. There was a place 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:22.599 that we went to in high school down by the 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.680 beach that had very large Sundays. But and I felt 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.679 fancy as heck the time that that happened. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.800 That sounds very fancy. That sounds like something I've only 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:32.640 seen in movies. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.120 Oh right, yeah, yeah, I did not wear my Bobby Sucks, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:41.159 but I nonetheless felt Yes, technically, banana splits and parfas 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.120 stuff like that are also Sundays. It's sort of like 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:50.200 a square rhombus kind of situation. Nutrition wise, they're like 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.520 the epitome of a treat. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.599 I mean, if you think about their name. We're going 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.080 to get into this in a little bit. Sunday it's 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.920 something special one day a week. I wish I had know. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.159 I wish I'd thought of that as a kid, and 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:06.080 I could have made that argument better, but I didn't. 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:07.040 I didn't. 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.440 It does depend highly on what kind of ice cream 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.200 and toppings you involved there. It's your mileage will definitely 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:16.640 very It's true. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:21.960 My go to at DQ Dairy Queen was hot fudge Sunday, 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:27.320 hot fudge sauce and cons that was it. Ooh nice, simple, simple. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.360 I like a crunch Yeah, but. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.400 Rememb when we get that frozen yogurt and I put 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:33.320 every topic on. 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.760 Every single one, I'm still upset about it. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:41.320 I am too. Do we have we have some numbers? 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:41.680 We do? 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.400 We do? Oh, we have a bunch of delightful numbers. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:45.679 So okay. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.160 According to a Yahoo survey of about one thousand representative 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:53.200 Americans over the age of thirteen or thirteen and over anyway, 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:58.159 ice cream is America's favorite dessert, and twenty one percent 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.520 of us prefer it to be in Sunday format. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:01.599 Huh. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.159 As of twenty fifteen, the Guinness World Record for the 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.599 largest ice cream Sunday was made in Canada. It weighed 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.760 twenty four point nine to one metric tons that's almost 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:18.400 fifty five thousand pounds. About four and a half tons 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:19.200 of that was syrup. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:20.480 Oh my goodness. 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.039 And according to Guinness, it looked quote not unlike a 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.600 dairy based tribute to Jaba the Hut. 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.400 Sunday, the hut there, and they. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.599 Were not lying. It kind of did like a pink 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:37.040 pink job of the hut. Guinness also reports a record 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.800 for the longest ever ice cream dessert, a Sunday made 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.640 in Texas, with about eight hundred gallons of ice cream, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.160 two thousand cans of whip cream, twenty five pounds of sprinkles, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:52.600 and twenty thousand cherries. It stretched almost one four hundred 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.800 meters in length. That's about forty five hundred feet. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.320 I had an aunt that told me, and I think 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.360 you've redne a brain stuff episode about this, that dairy 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.440 products gave you nightmares. Oh, and she used to tell 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:06.800 me if I had too much ice cream ry to 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.760 have bad dreams. I think she just didn't want me 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:13.040 to ice email like ten PM. But can you imagine 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.640 the bad dreams you'd have if you had this Lodge 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:18.320 ice cream. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.200 It served a lot of people. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.560 Well, I hope so. I imagine you'd die if you 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:23.080 try to. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:24.920 Oh goodness, yeah, that's not. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:26.560 No. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.440 Guinness's most expensive dessert on record is also an ice 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:35.160 cream Sunday, a chocolate Sunday offered for twenty five thousand 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.400 dollars at a New York City restaurant in two thousand 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.640 and seven. It included a blend of twenty eight premium 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.400 cocos and a golden spoon encrusted with diamonds that was 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:46.480 the buyers to keep. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:56.200 Well. I guess different strokes for different folks. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.200 And apparently ice cream Sundays are quite posh in New 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.080 York City. This year, just an April, food writer Pete 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.760 Wells published an article in The New Yorker titled the 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:09.320 ice Cream Sunday Must be Stopped. It complained that like nostalgic, 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.800 ice cream Sundays at restaurants are generally as insipid as 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:19.840 they are ubiquitous. He was real mad at them. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:25.240 Huh. It's interesting because to me, I don't like if 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.000 I'm at an ice cream restaurant, I don't order the Sunday, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.400 but I do get ice cream with two toppings, which 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:31.760 it's just in my head. I don't think of it 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.960 as a Sunday, but I guess it is. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.280 Yeah, I think that. Yeah, if I'm going to order 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.440 ice cream from an ice cream place, I definitely get 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.560 a liquid topping and then a crunchy topping for texture. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:48.240 Yeah, I'm going to have to reevaluate my Sunday definition. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:52.439 Oh okay, questioning. Thanks, Yeah, but this is an episode 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:53.240 of many questions. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.200 It is it is, and we're. 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.120 Going to get into that after we get back from 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.120 quick break for our sponsor. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:12.800 And we're back. Thank you sponsors. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:13.480 Yes, thank you. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:19.960 So now our trial begins. Yes, yes, because the ice 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:24.840 cream Sunday is the source of much contention. Oh yeah, 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:30.080 people fight over it. There are songs, like fight songs. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.120 There are official legal documents in what has been dubbed 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:41.559 the Sunday Wars. The name is a source of debate too, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.880 Oh yeah, yeah, Like. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.280 Like why it's called a Sunday, that's correct, Laurence. Why 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.480 it's spelled with that E instead of a Y. Yes, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.280 or sometimes with an I H monster. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:02.319 Yes, so the name. There's The popular, possibly apocryphal story 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.559 is that the blue laws here in the States, and 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.920 these are laws prohibiting certain activities on Sundays for religious reasons. 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.680 Did not allow for ice cream sodas on Sundays because 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:19.760 of there and this is a quote a document somewhere frilliness. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:25.280 No frilliness on Sundays. No, no clergy preached against quote 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:29.240 sucking soda on the Sabbath and any day really, but 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.280 especially on the Sabbath. So the Sunday with an E, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.600 along with names like the Sunday sund I and Psalm 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:43.360 Dso n Dhi were used to maybe lessen the angry 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:47.040 response from the religious community who might not appreciate this 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:51.960 luxurious treat being named after their holy day. I see. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.560 In nineteen forty five, a famous newspaper columnist by the 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.360 name of H. L. Menca And published a book called 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:05.840 The American Language Supplement One. It included an entry about 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:10.840 the suffix day Dae, which read quote most plausible of 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.760 their theories abscribes the introduction of the Sunday itself to 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.760 George Hallower of Marshall, Illinois, and the invention of its 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:24.160 name to George Giffy or Jiffy, of man Manatoc, Wisconsin. 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.160 He also alleged that the origins of the Sunday in 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.880 Wisconsin came before all other origin stories which he probably 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.680 heard this story in Wisconsin, and this was a shot 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.480 fired in the Sunday wars. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:42.000 Oh yes, because people are serious about their origin stories 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:42.600 of the Sunday. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:48.480 They are so serious, deadly serious. Oh no, perhaps not 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:49.000 that serious. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.440 Maybe it's deadly, but quite series. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:56.920 Quite serious. Three towns claimed to be the home of 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.720 the first ice cream Sunday, although one of those is 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:05.560 more technical. And we present before you the evidence. You 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:06.960 must decide for yourself. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.000 Undone, Yes, all right. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:19.040 Origin story one, two Rivers, Wisconsin, current population two thousand. First, 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:24.920 all right. In eighteen eighty one, George Hallower walked into 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.920 ed Berner's ice cream parlor and asked the owner, Edward Burners, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.440 for an ice cream soda. One problem though it was 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:38.520 a Sunday, Sunday to day, Sunday the day. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.679 Oh no, you can't drink a soda on a Sunday. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:46.200 That's right, Lauren, you can't. Undeterred, mister Berners came up 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.400 with a solution, a dish full of ice cream topped 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.400 with chocolate syrup. This was unique because at the time, 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.120 chocolate syrup was reserved for making flavored ice cream sodas. 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.840 Hallower and Burners both were impressed with this treat, and 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.079 Burners made it a special at his store for the 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:06.160 price of one nickel. The dessert was a huge hit. 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.080 Not too much evidence exists to back this up, though. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.520 One thing the town likes to bring up is a 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.640 nineteen twenty nine interview published in the Two Rivers Reporter 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.760 newspaper with Edward Berners. In the article, Burners describes how 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:25.320 the Sunday came to be allegedly quote, one night, Halloa 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.840 dropped in and ordered a dish of ice cream. As 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.880 I was serving it, he spied a bottle of chocolate 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.720 syrup on the backbar, which I use for making sodas. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:34.679 Why don't you put some of that chocolate on a 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.320 ice cream, he asked. You don't want to ruin the 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.319 flavor of the ice cream, I protested, but Hallara answered, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.640 I'll try anything once, and I poured it on the chocolate. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.080 Hallara liked it, and the ice cream Sunday was born. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.680 Twist though, oh no, yeah, there are a lot of 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.719 twists in this episode of Your Prepared. In eighteen eighty one, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.600 which is when Berner's claims this went down, he would 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.679 have been eighteen years old, which is a bit young 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:02.440 to own your own store. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:04.920 Oh I see. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:11.120 Even his obituary acknowledged that he quote claimed to be 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.920 the originator of the ice cream Sunday. The Wisconsin State 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:20.480 Historical Society, though, does not have any such doubt. They 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.680 officially recognized Two Rivers as the home of the first Sunday. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:27.040 A plaque was put up in nineteen seventy three to 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.040 make clear to any who would dare a question that 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.200 Two Rivers is in fact the true birthplace of the 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:38.200 ice cream Sunday quote. In eighteen eighty one, George Hollower 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.800 asked Edward Z. Berner, the owner of a soda fountain 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.720 at fourteen oh four fifteenth Street, to top a dish 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.440 of ice cream with chocolate syrup with chocolate sauce. Hitherto 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.920 used only for ice cream sodas. The concoction cost a 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.840 nickel and soon became very popular, but was sold only 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.000 on Sundays. One day, a ten year old girl insisted 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.400 she had a dish of ice cream with that stuff 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:04.040 on top, saying they could pretend it was Sunday. After that, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.080 the confection was sold every day, and many flavors, it 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.200 lost its Sunday only association to be called in all 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:15.360 caps ice creams Sunday when a glassware salesman plays an 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.000 order with his company for the long canoe shaped dishes 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.400 in which it was served as Sunday dishes. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:23.120 And there you have it. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:29.440 That's pretty, that's legit, but also it bold. 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:34.600 It uses capslock. I mean, I don't know what's legit 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.800 outside of the use of capslock. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.440 Who knows. It's very serious. Indeed, visitors to the town 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.160 can also visit a replica of Ed Berner's ice cream 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.400 parlor at the Washington House Hotel Museum and it's always 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:49.880 listeners if you have been there. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.440 Oh, please send pictures, please placeies please. Yeah. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.400 Depending on the source, Manachewaik, Wisconsin might come up in 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.040 this origin story as well as mentioned in that Menen 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.880 piece we talked about it the top minutes back. Competitor 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:06.200 of Berner's, George Jiffy or Giffe, started serving the same 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.880 ice cream treat. However, he thought five cents was too cheap, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.920 so he sold it only on Sundays, and because of 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.000 that fact, it started to be known as the Sunday 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.160 The profits became too good to sell only once a week, 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.440 so he changed the name to Sunday with an E 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.320 and sold it on any old day. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:28.640 Okay, Okay, Well, so that's that's our So that's our 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:36.800 first origin story. Yep, Okay. We've got a competitor, and 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:41.840 that competitor is Ithaca, New York. Current population seven hundred 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:42.520 and fifty six. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.760 So a bit bigger than two rivers, A. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.880 Little bit bigger, a little bit bigger. This is a 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.800 city that's up in the western bit of New York State, 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.680 in the Finger Lakes region. It's right on Cyoga Lake, 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.040 and Cornell University lives here. It lived there back when 0:16:57.120 --> 0:17:01.200 Ithaca's story about the ice cream Sunday began. They claimed 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.920 to have such detailed documentation that they can nearly pinpoint 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.560 the hour that the first Sunday was served. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.720 Ooh oh oh uh huh. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:15.679 So April third, eighteen ninety two, it's a Sunday. The 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:19.040 reverend of the local Unitarian church, one John M. Scott, 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:23.480 visited the Plat and cult pharmacy after services. This was 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.320 a common occurrence. Mister Platt, that's Chester c. Plat for 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.680 your information, was the church's treasurer, so they often met 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.560 up after services. To talk about stuff. Platt had his 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.520 fountain clerks scoop them up two bowls of an el 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:39.000 ice cream, and then Platt stopped and topped each with 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.119 cherry syrup and a candied cherry. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:42.480 Oh. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.560 And Platt and Scott found the result so tasty and 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.119 so attractive that they decided to name the dish. They 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:50.880 were like, this has to have a name. It got 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.159 too yeah, and Scott suggested that they name it for 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:57.400 the day that it was created, the Cherry Sunday Ah. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.680 Two days later, an ad ran in the Ithaca Daily 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.800 Journal for a Cherry Sunday, a new ten cent ice 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.600 cream novelty served only at Platin Cult's famous day and 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:07.480 night soda fountain. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.280 They really didn't waste any time. I'm selling that. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.240 No, Wow, immediately Yeah, like like place the ad the 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:15.639 next day runs the day after that. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:16.679 Yeah. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.240 And this tale has its own Depression era corroboration. In 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.800 nineteen thirty six, apparently having read newspaper articles with other 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.920 origins of the Sunday, the clerk from Platin could who 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.879 was there that day, Mister DeForest Christians wrote into an 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.760 Ithaca Historian with his version of the tale. 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:43.159 As told above. So intrigue, Yes, Sunday intrigue. But we 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:45.240 have another we have another claim. 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:45.879 Oh goodness. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:51.040 Yeah, and this one comes to us from Evanston, Illinois, 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.320 current population seventy four thousand, eight hundred and ninety five. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.280 And this is where Northwestern University is, which a good 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:02.000 friend of mine went to and I visited to her 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:06.400 a lot. So I have been to Evanston, Illinois. Okay, 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.880 have you had a Sunday there? Oh? 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:09.320 I did. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.879 It was peanut butter Maurice's cup anywhere cream and I 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:16.720 have a picture of me eating it, and I look 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.960 so happy. I was so happy. 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:23.760 You look happy just thinking about it. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.560 I am. Towards the end though, I was not as 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.840 happy because it was quite sweet. But yeah, it's very enjoyable. 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.720 So this is the one that I mentioned. Is more technical. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.920 They could have been a condenda. They don't really claim 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.879 to be the creator of the Sunday the thing, but 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:48.280 they do claim ownership of the name ice cream Sunday. Okay, 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:52.479 that they say they coined in the eighteen nineties. At 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:56.760 the time, Evanston was not Evanston, but Chicago's heaven or Heavenstown. 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:01.080 Heavenstown was not heaven though at least not for soda lovers. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.600 They led the charge when it came to outlawing the 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:10.040 Sunday sona menace, as they called it. As the name 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.919 might suggest, they were pretty religious. In Heavenstown, they had 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.359 an ordinance on the books making the sale of ice 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:22.119 cream sodas against the rules. We'll say on Sunday. Garwood's 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.480 Drugstore came up with work around selling an ice cream 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:29.680 soda without the soda on Sundays, so just the ice 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:34.760 cream and the syrup aka a Sunday. The local Christian 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:45.240 Women's Temperance Union okayed it, saying it was better than outcaul. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:50.639 But that's not all. Oh no, Sunday Sunday Sunday. So 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:56.920 we have origin story four through eight and plus even more. Buffalo, Cleveland, 0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:01.480 New Orleans, and many other cities also say they invented 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:06.080 the Sunday but until they present more evidence, they're gonna 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:07.280 have to take a back seat. 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:07.879 M m. 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:12.600 And speaking of evidence, we have some. Oh yeah, but 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.720 first we have one more quick break for a word 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:27.560 from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:32.520 thank you. Our first bit of evidence comes to us 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.879 from the Two Rivers City Council, and they released a 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:40.280 resolution in two thousand and six titled Resolution formally challenging 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.560 the City of Ithaca, New York's claim to be quote 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.000 birthplace of the ice cream Sunday. 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.120 This is this is a legal resolution. It is it 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.480 was I think mostly in good fun. I think mostly, 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.159 But they like they like sent it to the Mayor 0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:57.960 of Ithaca. 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.760 I think they did, indeed. 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:05.040 And as it is beautiful, we're going to read a 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:06.040 few excerpts from it. 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:07.879 Yeah, And I just want you to keep in mind 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.520 that we trim this down quite a bit. 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:13.480 Ye, this is not the entire thing. 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:19.160 No, No, it went on far longer, far longer. Whereas 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.639 it is only fitting and proper that the coolest city 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.800 in America's dairyland be afforded sole possession of this title. 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.880 And whereas it has recently come to our attention that Ithaca, 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.920 New York, not content with just promoting its status is 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.920 home to one of America's great universities in the Finger 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.960 Lakes region of beautiful Upstate New York, has once again 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.960 dusted off its claim to be birthplace of the ice 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:43.800 cream Sunday. 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:49.400 Whereas Ithaca's experience with ice cream Sundays is a relatively 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:54.199 recent vintage, dating to Chester Platt's fabrication of a cherry 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:57.919 Sunday at his drugstore Soda Fountain in eighteen ninety two, 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:03.120 a full eleven years after Ed Berner's Sundays began broadening 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:08.040 children's smiles and adults wastelines in our community on the 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:09.920 shore of Lake Michigan. 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.720 Now, therefore, be it resolved that the City of Two 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:16.840 Rivers reasserts its status as the birthplace of the ice 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:17.600 cream Sunday. 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.720 Be it further resolved that the City of Ithaca is 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:25.000 hereby directed to cease and assist from its continued claims 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:28.159 of being birthplace of the ice cream Sunday, lest the 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.840