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I'm coming to you guys 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: again from Vegas for NBA Summer League. Got a jampackshow 37 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: for you guys today. We're gonna hit the Rockets Lakers 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: game from Lafe night. Talk a little bit about BROWNI 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: James's summer League debut. We're going to talk about Reed 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: Shepherd and how impressive he looked in his first game 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: here in Vegas. I'm gonna tell you guys a little 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: bit about my interview with Hime Hawkes which we recorded 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: yesterday that's going to be airing on our feeds on Monday. 44 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: And then the biggest story in the NBA yesterday, Jalen 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: Brunson takes a nine figure discount and guaranteed money compared 46 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: to what he could have made if he waited until 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: next summer to sign. Something that's going to help the 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: Knicks and something that is kind of complicated as it 49 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: pertains to the CBA, the relationship between the NBA Players 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: Association as well as the owners. It's a really interesting 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: topic I want to dive into, and certainly is amazing 52 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: news for Knicks fans as they get set for hopefully 53 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 2: a couple of years here where they can be consistently 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: in the top tier of contention. So we're gonna get 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: to all that stuff today. You guys know the drill 56 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: before we get started. Subscribe to the Hoops Tonight YouTube 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: channel so you don't miss any more of our videos. 58 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: Follow me on Twitter at Underscore json LTC. 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The Heimhawkes interview 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: is super cool. So, as you guys know, it's my 116 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: first opportunity to interview an NBA player. We've interviewed a 117 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: former NBA player. We interviewed Damian Wilkins, who is the 118 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: leader of Overtime Elite, but this is our first current 119 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: active NBA player to interview. We were at the Brotherhood 120 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: Deli at the at the Thomas and Macarna so it's 121 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: kind of like on the concourses, like a restaurant that's there, 122 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: and I may had done like a meet and greet 123 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: and some other stuff there. First thing that stood out 124 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: to me he is huge, Like he's listed at six 125 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: six with like a six to ten wingspan, but I 126 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: would venture to guess that because he was at least 127 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: a half inch taller than me and I in shoes 128 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: him about six six six six and a half. So 129 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: he's probably the better part at six seven six seven 130 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: and a half when he's got shoes on, and he's 131 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: incredibly built. And so it was funny because we talked 132 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: about the uh we talked a lot about his post 133 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: game and I've read a stat to him on the 134 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: in the interview about how he was like the third 135 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: best post player in the entire NBA to have at 136 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: least seventy five reps during the regular season, And it's 137 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: not hard to figure out. He's just he's just big. 138 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: He's big and strong, and he's capable of like winning 139 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: those ground battles, and like there's you know how it 140 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: is with NBA players, It's always different when you see 141 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: him in person, like I've seen Anthony Davis in person 142 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: now twice. I saw him in person at the USA 143 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: game on Wednesday, and like, you watch him just swallow 144 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: up shots around the rim. There was a kind of 145 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: a chase down block he had. I think it was 146 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: on On Shay, It might have been on Jamal Murray, 147 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: can't remember who, but where ad like jumped on right 148 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: in front the rim and brought his arms up around 149 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: both sides of the rim and like slapped the backboard 150 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: on both sides. It was like cheating. I don't know 151 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: how anybody gets a shot off over that guy. Like 152 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: there's a different level of like appreciation you get for 153 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: the physical stature of NBA players when you actually see 154 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: them in person. That was the first thing that stood 155 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: out to me about Hime. But he's super nice, super informative. 156 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: We talked a lot about the Team USA Select team process. 157 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: We talked about his first season with the Miami Heat. 158 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: We got in the weeds about his post game. We 159 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: had an interesting conversation about jump shooting and the and 160 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: the highs and lows of your process of trying to 161 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: develop as a jump shooter, and so yeah, like you know, 162 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: Summer League is a little weird because it's when I 163 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: first came here two years ago. I was just like, 164 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: because I didn't come, I was with the volume at 165 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: that point, but it wasn't a sponsored trip. I just 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: kind of came as a fan and I just kind 167 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: of parked my ass in the seats and I just 168 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: took in the games like NonStop. And that was a 169 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: really fun draft. If you guys remember that was the 170 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: Paloboncaro Draft and Jabbari's and that was kind of a 171 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: fun like there were just lots of like really high 172 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: level players playing every single day. But over the last 173 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: couple of years, obviously with the volume, there's been more responsibility. 174 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: So we're not going to get to as much Summer 175 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: league basketball today. We're just going to talk a little 176 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: bit about Rockets, Rockets, Lakers. But getting to do that 177 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: experience was super cool. I'm hoping you know, it was interesting. 178 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: I'd never done it before, so as I went in, 179 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: I was like, am I going to enjoy interviewing NBA players? 180 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: This is going to be something I want to do 181 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: in the long run, And I genuinely enjoyed it. Love 182 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: talking hoops with them. That video is coming out on Monday. 183 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm super super excited to share that with you, guys. 184 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: That's going to be fun looking forward to it. Lakers Rockets. 185 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 2: First of all, I'm blown away by the Lakers fan 186 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: base because that place was completely packed for the Laker game, 187 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: like up into I shouldn't say completely packed, it's probably 188 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: like ninety five percent full, Like there were some rows 189 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: in the nosebleeds that were open, but the lower bowl 190 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: was completely packed and the upper bowl was pretty full. 191 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: And then as soon as that game ended, even to 192 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: see the first and second overall picks and Zachary Rissasche 193 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: and Alex Sargo against each other, the arena just emptied out. 194 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: And like, again, those guys aren't the traditional top picks, right, 195 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: Like my friend Sam Vessini and his draft guide had 196 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: both of those guys as Tier three prospects, which means 197 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: they have all start upside, but they're considered more or 198 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: less like role player prospects, right, And so it's be 199 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: unusual for the house to be packed for something like that. 200 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 2: But that just goes to show you too, one thing 201 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: the power of Bronni and then two the which is 202 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: basically the power of the Lebron James brand and everything 203 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: associated with his family. And then two just Laker fans 204 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: and how they just show up and force to everything. 205 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: It's obviously, as you guys know, I did a Lakers 206 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: podcast before I did Hoops Tonight, and so the Laker 207 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: fan base has been very good to me and has 208 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 2: helped me get to where I've been in the industry, 209 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: and so it was just kind of a cool demonstration 210 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: of that yesterday. But in the game, I want to 211 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: the two guys own a zero in on are Bronni 212 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: and Reed Shepherd because Read Shepherd was like, like so good, 213 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: so so so good yesterday. We're gonna get into that. Bronni, 214 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: it still feels like his feel for the game is 215 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: just off right now. Like on defense to start this game, 216 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: he's guarding Red Shepherd. As we know Read Shepherd is. 217 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: There's different kinds of shooters, right, There's shooters and then 218 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: there's like lasers or like the coach that I when 219 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: I first started coaching high school basketball, Doug da Moore, 220 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: the coach I coached at Underneath at Accounting the Foothills, 221 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: who the year after they won the state championship. He 222 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: used to always tell me there's shooters and there's makers, 223 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: and there's two very different things. Right. A maker is like, 224 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: you cannot leave this guy open or he's going to 225 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: hit the shot, or as a shooter, it's like maybe 226 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: he makes him, maybe he doesn't. You know. It's more 227 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: of a streaky sort of thing. Reed Shepherd is a maker. 228 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: He is a guy that you cannot leave open. I 229 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: can't remember the exact number that I pulled when we 230 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: did our scout on him around the draft, but he 231 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: shot an absurdly high percentage on unguarded catch and shoot 232 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: jump shots at Kentucky and Bronnie James got that matchup 233 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: to start the game, and what I thought was interesting 234 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: was immediately off the top in the first shift, he 235 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: lost him twice. And it wasn't like he lost him 236 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: because he was running through the blender. He lost him 237 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: in off ball defense. The first one, Reid was at 238 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: the top of the key and he kind of sunk 239 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: down into the lane and help and it's like, you're 240 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: guarding this laser shooter. You gotta be attached. Easy swing 241 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 2: pass from Cam Whitmore back to Reed Shepherd. Read Shepherd 242 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: just pump fakes Brownie jumps flying out of his shoes 243 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: out to try to block the three point shot. Reid 244 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: takes a simple jump dribble into the lane. Cam Whitmore 245 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: cuts along the baseline back door and Reid hits him 246 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: with the back door pass and he gets the easy 247 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: reverse layup. And it's like your off ball defensive responsibilities 248 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: if you're Brownie there are fundamentally different. Because you're guarding 249 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: a laser. You cannot be digging down into the lane 250 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: anywhere far enough to where you can't just make a 251 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: simple drop step move to be right back in the 252 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: shooter's pocket, like you just have to stay attached. A 253 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: couple possessions later, same exact sort of thing. Read Shepherd's 254 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: on the left wing this time. I think it might 255 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: have been Cam Whitmoregan, I can't remember, but one of 256 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: the Rockets players is dribbling at the top of the 257 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: key and Bronnie's like digging down at the nail and 258 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: swiping down at the basketball, easy swing pass out to 259 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: the left wing, wide open catch and shoot three for 260 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: Reed Shepherd, who of course knocks it down because that's 261 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: what he does, right and so like it just right now. 262 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: It's just you can tell even though the tools are there. 263 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: And again I'm a big believer that the tools are there. 264 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: For Bronnie, his athleticism is real. You saw that on 265 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: the offensive end, right, like the downhill slashing ability is 266 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: first bucket driving along that right slot into the lane. 267 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: There was that transition run out where he like popped 268 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: up off of two legs like on the move to 269 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: have that easy one handed dunk. Like he's got the tools, 270 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: but everything is just so like it just feels so 271 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 2: raw at this point, even the jump shot. Like we 272 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: know he has the touch because we've seen him get 273 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: like make really high percentages of his threes in drills, 274 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: but in games, it's just there's not a fluidity to it. 275 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the concept of energy transfer 276 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: for a second. This is something that I think is 277 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: really really important in jump shooting that doesn't get talked 278 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: about enough. And the general concept of energy transfer is 279 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: when you're shooting a deep three, for instance, called like 280 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: a twenty five footer, right Like, Yeah, a good shooter 281 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: doesn't have trouble getting the ball to the rim or anything, 282 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: but there is a certain amount of energy that you 283 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: have to get into the basketball to get that twenty 284 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: foot foot That twenty foot shot a real chance to 285 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: get in with the appropriate amount of arc that it 286 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: needs to have a high percentage chance to go in. 287 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: And so that energy transfer process starts at your feet 288 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: and it comes up through your knees, up through your hips, 289 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: through your back, up through your shoulders, up through your 290 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: wrists on the release right. And so that is why 291 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: in your form you don't want to have wasted movement. 292 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: In addition to that, you want the ball to flow 293 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: in a straight line up through to the basket, meaning 294 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: like you don't want to have the ball swinging around 295 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: and changing direction a ton in your release because that 296 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: disrupts energy transfer. Think of it like this. The less 297 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: efficient you are with your energy transfer as you come 298 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: up through your body into the shot, the more you 299 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: have to snap your wrist at the end to make 300 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: up for it. The more you have to snap your 301 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: wrist at the end to make up for it, the 302 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: more it's hard to replicate that movement in a very 303 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: like muscle memory type of consistent way. Whereas when you 304 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: have excellent muscle memory, or excuse me, when you have 305 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: excellent energy transfer, it's just a very light flip of 306 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: the wrist. When you watch the best shooters, when you 307 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: watch Steph, when you watch Clay, it looks effortless because 308 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: they're getting perfectly efficient energy transfer up from their feet 309 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: through the top of the basketball. Bronnie has like a 310 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: weird dip that he does where he kind of like 311 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: gets out of his power line. He brings the ball 312 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: up like a catapult where he brings it back and 313 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: then forward. And when you bring it back and then forward, 314 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: you're basically creating a hitch in the shot. The best shooters, 315 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: they come up in their shooting pocket, they bring it 316 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: up along their chest rather than bringing it back this 317 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: way and then shooting. And so that's why I think 318 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: we're seeing a lot of Bronnie leaving the ball short 319 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: on the front of the rim, not getting enough arc 320 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: on the shot, having kind of like an inconsistent looking release. 321 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: It's because of the fact that right now there's just 322 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: a lot of wasted movement and wasted energy in his 323 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: jump shot. All of this comes back to say he's raw, 324 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: He's got forty years to figure it out, and like 325 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: that that's going to be that's going to be the 326 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: challenge for him is figuring out the jump shot form, 327 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: figuring out some of the reads to make it a 328 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: higher level, better game plan, discipline on the defensive end. 329 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: There's one angle to this that that didn't get broached 330 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: that I want to get into though. So last night, 331 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: those of you guys who are longtime listen listeners of 332 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: the show, remember Raj Chappollo. Raj is a friend of 333 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: mine who I actually did State of the Lakers with 334 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: early on, and him and I would go live after 335 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 2: Laker games and we would go And I had a 336 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: dinner last night with a bunch of my friends in 337 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: the industry and Roj was there and we were chatting, 338 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: and rog made an interesting point. It was something that 339 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: I didn't even factor in during the Brawny thing. And 340 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: this is a legitimate criticism as it pertains to the 341 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: Brownie signing. He takes up a roster spot. And the 342 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: truth of the matter is is he is more or 343 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: less a two way type of prospect. That's not an 344 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: insult to where he was drafted. That's typical. The majority 345 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: of second round guys are kind of like two way 346 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: prospect type of dudes. On a two way contract. He's 347 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: not taking up a roster spot. He can play fifty 348 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: NBA games if you want to, even though you're not 349 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: going to use him like that. But he doesn't take 350 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: up a roster spot, then the Lakers would have two 351 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: free roster spots, which would give them some flexibility in 352 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: the trade market. Say they did want to take a 353 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: they wanted to flip D'Angelo Russell for you know, a 354 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: backup center and a two somewhere. Right, Like, say they 355 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: wanted to bring back two players in a deal, they 356 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: can't do that right now because of the fact that 357 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: they don't have the roster spots available right So, like 358 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: if they had, they have one roster spot available right now. 359 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: So in theory, right now, they could trade out one 360 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: player and bring back two, but they could not trade 361 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: out one player and bring back three right What if 362 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: they wanted to sign Gary trade If they want to 363 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: sign Gary Trent Junior and make a trade that brought 364 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: back two players, they would be constricted because they don't 365 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 2: have a roster spot. And so there is something to 366 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: be said about the risk that Rob Polinka and Genie 367 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: Buss took by signing Bronnie James to a legitimate four 368 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: year NBA deal, is he is eating up a Lakers 369 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: roster spot for the next four seasons. Now, the counter 370 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: to that is they can dump salary, so they could 371 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: probably send a team a second round pick to take 372 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: Cam Reddish on in their payroll for a season, just 373 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: trade him into an empty cap space. The team that 374 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: takes it on is getting a draft pick out of 375 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: it as compensation, So the Lakers could create a roster 376 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: spot if they need it. But there is something to 377 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: be said about the Lakers did affect their flexibility by 378 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 2: banking on Bronny to be an NBA player. And I 379 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: do genuinely believe that Bronni has that capability, but I 380 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: think he is years plural away. I think he has 381 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: a lot of ground to make up in the meantime, 382 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: and there was some risk and lack, you know, kind 383 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: of affected flexibility by them going that way. 384 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: Preparing for your upcoming fantasy football draft, do you wish 385 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: that you could wave a magic wand and somehow know 386 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: who exactly your league mates are going to take? Well? 387 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: With draft Intel from Fantasy Pros, you'll know exactly how 388 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: your league matates draft better than they do. 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Step one, Reid had to catch the basketball 409 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: in position to shoot right away. This is a mistake 410 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 2: that I see a lot of young basketball players make, 411 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: where like they're spotting up, but they're not stand there 412 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: like standing straight, or they're not really like in an 413 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: active athletic position to be able to go right away 414 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 2: on the catch. Right What you want to do is 415 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: you want to be down in your shooting stance with 416 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: your hands out ready in the shooting pockets, so when 417 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: the ball comes to you, you can literally on the 418 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: catch flow directly up into your jump shot. It buys 419 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: you time, and when you're dealing with NBA level athletes, 420 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: there's not much time. You don't have all day to 421 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: load up into your jump shot. This is exactly what 422 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 2: we were talking about with Bronnie, which is why he's 423 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 2: getting some clunky releases and ugly misses. Right Reed, Shepherd 424 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: on that play, he's down in his stance and immediately 425 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: on the catch, he just shows the ball because he 426 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: sees Bronnie's out of position. He's making a read as 427 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: he's waiting there for the catch, he sees the ball 428 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: coming at him. He's making a read. Bronnie's at a position. 429 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: This dude's gonna close out too hard. Just show him 430 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: the basketball. Bronnie goes flying by very simple dribble move 431 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: into the lane. Once you get into the lane, you 432 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: immediately canvass the floor and pay attention to what's happening 433 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: as Bronnie made the move. Cam Whitmore's man stuttered for 434 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: just a second because he was watching Reid get dribble penetration. 435 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Cam made a read cutting along the back door, and 436 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: Shepherd hit him with the back door cut. That's not 437 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: a move that takes thousands of reps in the gym 438 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: to build out some complex skill set. That is just 439 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: simple feel for the game. There was a play along 440 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: the I can't remember his name, the bald dude for 441 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: the Lakers, the bald white dude who plays guard. He 442 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 2: was guarding Reed Shepherd on the right wing, and it's 443 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: like he comes over a ball screen and there's things 444 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: are kind of congested, and so he doesn't really have 445 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: anywhere to go, and so he just puts the bald 446 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: dude in jail, traps him on his backside, kind of 447 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: just meanders into the elbow, waits for the situation to 448 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: clear out, sees that there's nothing there, but he sees 449 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: the bald dude kind of leaning on his left hand side, 450 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: and he just does a whip across crossover left to right, 451 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: gets a ton of separation and rises into a shot. Again. 452 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: It's one simple move, one crossover. But he got to 453 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: that spot by virtue of just patiently letting a play develop. 454 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: And what makes me so excited about Red Shepherd's fit 455 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: with the Rockets is they have tons of that athletic 456 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: upside with guys like Jabari Smith Junior, with guys like 457 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: Jalen Green. They have guys like alburn Sangun who's going 458 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: to be able to get the defense into rotation. Reed 459 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: Shepherd is going to catch with an advantage a lot, 460 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: and he's going to capitalize on it. I get that 461 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: the fit is funny here is we're talking about two 462 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: white dudes. But this is what actually makes him similar 463 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: to Austin Reeves in my opinion, because Austin Reeves is 464 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: one of those guys where doesn't really have the athletic 465 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: upside to like run your offense in super large doses. 466 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: Austin can run action so will read. Austin can run 467 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: ball screens with Anthony Davis. Austin can get buckets. Austin's 468 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: a dude who's had you know, a bunch of twenty 469 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: point playoff games in his career. And I'm not trying 470 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 2: to sit there and pretend like he doesn't have the 471 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: ability to do it. But if you put him against 472 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: an elite perimeter defender and with an elite screen defender. 473 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: He's not going to be the kind of guy that 474 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: can take you to the Promised Land. Neither can Read Shepherd. 475 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: But the context of these supremely gifted offensive players like 476 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: Alpa and Shangoun, like Jalen Green, Jabaris Smith Jr. These 477 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 2: guys like they are going to be able to set 478 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 2: him up with advantage opportunities so that he can play 479 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: kind of in the flow and be a connective piece. 480 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: My favorite role for Austin Reeves is I want him 481 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: to be the second best ball handler on the floor. 482 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: I want him to be playing off of the other 483 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: guys because then when he runs action, he has a 484 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: favorable matchup because he's a lesser defender on him. And 485 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: then when he has opportunities to catch in that advantage, 486 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: he can take advantage of his feel for the game 487 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: and his really well defined skill set. Right. That's kind 488 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: of where Reed Shepherd can fit in with Houston. I 489 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: love it. He showed some real off the dribble pop two. 490 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Like I talked about the lefty cross, he had multiple 491 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: dribble combination pull up jump shots. He had that floater, 492 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: although it was double dribble. He at that floater that 493 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: he hit on Dalton connect He had a super deep 494 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: three from like thirty five feet away. Twenty three points, 495 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: four rebounds, five assists on seventeen shots four six three 496 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 2: super super impressive Summer league outing for Reed Shepherd. I 497 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: think that's gonna be a really fun fit there in Houston. 498 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: And again, guys like I, this year in Vegas, my 499 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: itinerary has been super full, so I haven't had a 500 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: chance to watch a ton of the games. But when 501 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: I get back into town in Tucson, we're gonna cover 502 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: Summer League. We're gonna cover We're gonna cover a lot 503 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: of USA basketball. Monday morning, team USA plays against Australia 504 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: and then Wednesday morning they play against Serbia. Will be 505 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 2: covering those games on the feed. So we're gonna get 506 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: back into the some of the basketball weeds when I 507 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: get back to Tucson. After this event, moving on to 508 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: the Knicks. So Jalen Bruns takes his extension rather than 509 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: waiting to become a free agent to sign. His deal 510 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: ends up being effectively a nine figure difference in the 511 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: amount of guaranteed money that he could have taken. But 512 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: this is complicated on several levels, so I want to 513 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: get into some of the details. First of all, he's 514 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: a small guard. Do any of you guys remember Isaiah Thomas. 515 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: Remember when he had that year where he averaged like 516 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: twenty eight twenty nine points per game, he received MVP votes. 517 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: It was an unbelievable year for Isiah Thomas. If you 518 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: guys remember, he was tweeting like back up the Brinks 519 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: truck right like, he was like, I want all the money. 520 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 2: But then he got into a playoff series against the 521 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers and he suffered a hip injury, if you 522 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: guys remember, and he just didn't look like the same guy. 523 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: And guess what, he didn't get paid. And it went 524 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: from him getting the Brinks truck big paycheck to him 525 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: getting a whole lot of nothing, right compare relatively, He 526 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: got a tiny fraction of what he would have got 527 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: had he take in maybe a smaller guaranteed deal sooner 528 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: in that process, right, he wanted to He bet on himself, 529 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: He bet on getting all that money. He ended up 530 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: getting hurt. Didn't get it right, Like that super Max 531 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: deal sounds amazing, But what if Jalen Brunson gets hurt 532 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: this year. What if Jalen Brunson plays in the playoffs 533 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 2: while banged up and doesn't look quite like the Jalen 534 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: Brunson we saw last year and then suddenly like his 535 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: the the Knicks are looking at the situation like, eh, 536 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: I'm not sure we can offer that lucrative of a deal. Right. 537 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: This is not choosing between two deals standing right in 538 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: front of him. It's not like he had, you know, 539 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: a deal, the deal that he signed for one fifty 540 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: and then this other deal for two sixty right next 541 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: to each other, and then he like crumpled up the 542 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 2: two sixty and signed the one fifty. It's one fifty 543 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: now or maybe the two sixty next summer, right, So 544 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: it is it's a lot more complicated than that. It's 545 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: also a fifth year, so there are opportunities to recoup 546 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: their earnings. Yazi Goslin is a guy follow on Twitter 547 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: does amazing stuff with the cap and he did a 548 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: really nice job breaking down you guys to follow him 549 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: on Twitter. I highly recommend you'll learn a lot to 550 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: help you kind of understand some of the CBA stuff. 551 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: He did a really nice job breaking down the fact 552 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: that if Jalen Brunson opts out after his third year, 553 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 2: so he just does the first three years of the 554 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: deal and then signs the Supermax. It comes out to 555 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: about the same as he would have made if he 556 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: took the two sixty guaranteed next year, So like he 557 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: can recoup the earnings in the long run if his 558 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: agent chooses to play hardball at that point. Right. Also, 559 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: not everyone is as money motivated as other people. Like 560 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: I understand that it, Like I know, I am, Like 561 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: I would have a hard time turning down that kind 562 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: of money, but like, hey, Jalen Brunson is the kind 563 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: of guy that's like maybe he's looking at the situation, 564 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: like you mean to tell me right now, I can 565 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: sign for one hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed, a 566 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: contract that seemed kind of like beyond my comprehension five 567 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: years ago, Like this is right here, I can sign 568 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: it right now. Oh and I get to play with 569 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: all my buddies. I get to play with Dante DiVincenzo 570 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: and Josh Hard and McHale Bridges. I get to play 571 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: with my buddies. We have a real team that has 572 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: a real chance to win the title. Let's just instead 573 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: of like trying to hold out for something better. Let's 574 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: just take a good situation that's right here in front 575 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: of us, and I think that's what he tried to 576 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: jump on it. And to me, you know what, like, 577 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm never gonna hate on a guy for doing that. 578 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: The other angle is, and this is where it gets 579 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: a little more complicated. The other angle is the NBA 580 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: Players Association. Right, So, anytime a player takes less than 581 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: the most possible money he can earn, he does the 582 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 2: owners of favor, right, And there is this everlasting conflict 583 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: between the owners and players in the form of their 584 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: collective bargaining agreement that is essentially a battle for the 585 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: a battle for earnings. Right. The players are in this 586 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: long journey to demonstrate that they are the reason this 587 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: league makes money and they deserve the most. The owners 588 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: are on this long journey to say that they are 589 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: the ones that are the reason why this league earns 590 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: so much money and they deserve the most. They're jockeying 591 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: for position all the time, right, And I don't know 592 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: the exact number right now, but the revenue splits right 593 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: around like fifty to fifty. Right. But in the CBA, 594 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: the owners put all these restrictions in they won that 595 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: battle in a big way because a lot of players 596 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: are starting to sign for less and less. Now, in 597 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: the big picture, Mike, it might end up working out 598 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, it's going to 599 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: be fifty to fifty revenue split anyway. But the players 600 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: want to be able to earn as much money as 601 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 2: they possibly can, and anytime they take a discount it 602 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: does a favor to the owners. But once again, that's 603 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: complicated because of this simple fact that there's no guarantee 604 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: that the Knicks will offer him that money next summer. 605 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: If he gets hurt, they probably won't. Jalen Brunson has 606 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 2: been fortunate with health health the last couple of years 607 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: up until he broke his hand in the broke his 608 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: finger or whatever in that playoff series. I think he 609 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: just wanted to take the guarantee that was there. I 610 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: don't Again, that's his prerogative, and I don't like it 611 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: how I don't like how it's being framed as like, 612 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson did the Knicks a huge favor. He did. 613 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: He did the Knicks a huge favor, But it's more 614 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: complicated than that. I think he also was just taking 615 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: advantage of some financial security. To quote, to quote my 616 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: friend Ryan, who's also a producer here at the volume, 617 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: he said, there's never a bad time, It's never a 618 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: bad idea to turn down one hundred and fifty million 619 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: dollars guarantee. And that's what Jalen Brunson decided to do. 620 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: More importantly, though, it is a favorite to the Knicks 621 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: because it's way easier for the Knicks to maintain roster 622 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: control of their core players now Jalen Brunson, mckel Bridges, 623 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: Oh Jane, and Obi. They should be able to retain 624 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: them all now and retain some flexibility. The second bit 625 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: of this is like, well, what if they end up 626 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: in the second apron when this is all said and done, Like, 627 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: what if they sign McHale Bridges and they sign Mitchell 628 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: Robinson next year and they end up in the second apron? Well, 629 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: the second Apron is only bad in the sense of flexibility. 630 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: As long as you're willing to pay the bill, you 631 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: can keep your players. It's bad with flexibility player movement, right, 632 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: So the question is can you be in the second 633 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: second Apron with this scroup? If McHale Bridges signs the 634 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: same type of extension next year that Jalen Brunson just signed. 635 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: You will have Brunson, Bridges, Annonobi, Dante DiVincenzo, Josh Hart, 636 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: and Duce McBride all locked up for each of the 637 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: next three seasons. Right, and if Bridges takes a similar 638 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 2: discount to Brunson, you have better chance to retain Mitchell Robinson. Right. 639 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: Let's say they retain Mitchell Robinson. At that point, you 640 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: have two starting caliber guards, right, Brunson and de Vincenzo. 641 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: You have a good bench guard, Induce McBride. You have 642 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: three awesome forwards who could all start. Josh Hart could start, 643 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: ohj Anobi should start, Mchalbridges should start, right, and you 644 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: have a good starting a caliber center in Mitchell Robinson. Right. 645 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like I talked about with the 646 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: Boston Celtics. They're a second Apron team, but they have 647 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: these four core guys and Drew Holliday at Derek White, 648 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum who are consistently healthy, consistently available, 649 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: consistently great. So they can afford to lack flexibility because 650 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: they have such a good starting five and six players 651 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: in counting Al Horford right, So like, as long as 652 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: you don't need to make a change, then you're fine. 653 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: It's like the Lakers. You can't be in the second 654 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: apron as a Lakers because you desperately need to make 655 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: some tweaks at the two and three spot. They've needed 656 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: to do that for years. So for them, they can't 657 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: operate in that second apron because if they do, they're 658 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: handicapping their own the ability to address their flaws. This 659 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: looks like a roster that can be in the second apron, 660 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: So do the Celtics. As long as you have a 661 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: roster that makes sense, in a rotation that you can 662 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: work with, then the second apron is not as big 663 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: of a deal. But no matter what, this this deal 664 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: from Jalen Brunson just gives the Knicks that flexibility, gives 665 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: him a better chance of retaining all those guys and 666 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: having a long contention window. Again, as I look at everything, 667 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: the one thing I'm not trying to say it's a 668 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: no go because maybe Julius Randall comes into camp and 669 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: it's a super natural fit. Maybe Michale bridges like slides 670 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: to the two and you play Julius Randall at center. 671 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: Sometimes like who knows how this works out. Maybe it 672 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: all works great, but I have a feeling he's gonna 673 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 2: be the odd man out. And then at that point, 674 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: I think you try to look to flip Julius Randall 675 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: basically into a little bit of depth as like at 676 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: like the guard forward spot in a backup center because 677 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: now at this point you need a backup center without 678 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 2: Isaiah Hartenstein. So like, we'll see how it all shapes out. 679 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: But a big day for the Knicks because that just 680 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: gives it just makes it far more likely that they 681 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: can extend that window. Just if you paint it as 682 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson doing the Knicks of favor, that is, that's true, 683 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: but let's not forget that, like there are some complications there. 684 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: There's some reality to the fact that that we've seen 685 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: small guards make that gamble before and lose, and I'd 686 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: hate for that to happen to Jalen Brunson. And I 687 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: would imagine if I was him, I would imagine right now, 688 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: he's kind of resting easy, know that he's secure for 689 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: the next four years and that he's gonna be happy 690 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: playing basketball in an environment that he loves. All Right, guys, 691 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: that is all I have for today. I'm headed down 692 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: to the Summer League building. I'm gonna be there most 693 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: of the day. I'm going to the Dead Show tonight, 694 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: so i'll be there until about five thirty. Come by 695 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: and say hi. I'll be around just kind of hanging 696 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: out in the seat some. I'll be down in the 697 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: press area some. But come say hi if you haven't 698 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: had a chance to yet. And then I'll be fine 699 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: home tomorrow morning and we'll get right back to the 700 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: grind on Monday. As always. I appreciate you guys, and 701 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: we'll see you then. 702 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: The volume