1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: All right, News roundup and information overload. Here's our toll 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: free telephone number if you want to be a part 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: of the program. It's eight hundred and ninety four one 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Sean if you want to join us. Joining us now. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton now, he is the co host of the 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck Show, The Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Very very successful, successful. But you may not know or 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: remember about him, and you should. He's a former CIA 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: analyst and he's written a new book. It's called Manufacturing Delusion, 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: How the Left uses brainwashing and doctrination and propaganda against you. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: And he draws on that experience the years that he 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: was in the CIA, you know, in combating at the 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: time she Hotty terror movements and the history of totalitarian 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: regimes to do this. Now, I'm fascinated with this topic. 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: Years and years ago I read it was wasn't a book. 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: It was like, I don't know, like a. 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Twenty page thirty page leaflet, a history of Russian mind 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: control techniques. And if you think back throughout history and 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: you look at you know, how is it that you 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: know people, entire populations can be indoctrinated by radicalism? You 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: can see it for example, videos of Hitler speaking to 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: large crowds in Germany and indoctrinating and brainwashing people to 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: go out and kill their fellow human beings. It's mind numbing. 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: You see it in countries like Iran. These are stark examples. 25 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: The Russians back in the day, in the former Soviet 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: Union times were probably the masters at disinformation, indoctrination, brainwashing, 27 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: and they in many ways still are today. It's a 28 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: means by which these countries and these dictators are able 29 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: to control populations. And if you look at the last 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: century alone, over one hundred million and human souls slaughtered 31 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: in the name of some ism. You know, look at 32 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: Mao and China and Stalin and Russia and Hitler and 33 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: Germany and pol Pot and the killing fields and Mussolini 34 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: and fascism and Tojo in Japan. I mean, they have 35 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: this one common theme, which is indoctrination, brainwashing, propaganda. And 36 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: now the question is is it happening in America? And 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: Buck is here to answer that question, and he does 38 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: answer it in his new book. By the way, it's 39 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: on Amazon dot Comhanity dot com and then bookstores around 40 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: the country. All right, let's focus in on this how 41 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: the left uses brainwashing in doctrination propaganda against you. I 42 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: mentioned my background in fascination with this topic. Am I 43 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: wrong in my analysis? And how is it applicable today? 44 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: You know? 45 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: In fact, I love Sean that you started off with 46 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: talking about the Soviets, because my first the first chapter 47 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: in the book, beyond the introduction into the overall theme 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: and thesis, I mean, the thesis is massesteria, mass mind 49 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: control is the single most dangerous and most challenging thing 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: that we face now. And when you add technology and 51 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 3: AI and robotics and all this into the equation right now, 52 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: I think it's inevitable that people going mad in masses 53 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 3: or in herds and only coming to their senses one 54 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: by one. This is how societies can can fall. I mean, 55 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: this is something that we have to be very cognizant of. 56 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: And I start off in the first chapter with conditioning 57 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: in Pavlov and the origins. If you went right to that, 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: the origins of understanding how the brain processes outside stimuli 59 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: information and how that can affect the actual physical body, 60 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: which is what Pavlov was looking at right with the 61 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: dogs salivation that there was as a result of a 62 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: buzzer when they had been fed. And then Lenin and 63 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: the early leadership of the Soviet Union were fascinated by 64 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: the possibilities here, and they engage, in a sense, the 65 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: biggest mass conditioning experiment of human beings in history, to 66 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: bombard people with propaganda, to force them to lie, to 67 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: force them to accept an unreality. And there are tactics 68 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: and there are procedures that they go through. And then, 69 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: by the way, in other chapters, I go through other 70 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: variations of this, But the Soviets really started it. And yes, 71 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: I mean today there are things happening in this country 72 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: that borrow very much from the mind control tactics of 73 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: whether it's the Soviets or Maoist China and the Cultural 74 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: Revolution North Korea. Cults. I get into cults like um 75 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: Shinrikio and Jim Jones and how they do this and 76 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: why it's so dangerous. And obviously, coming out of COVID 77 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: Sean people lost their mind. I mean hundreds of millions 78 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: of people lost their mind and they went completely nuts. 79 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: And I think we still need to come to grips 80 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: with how that happened so recently and how it can 81 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: happen again. 82 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it on the macro level and then 83 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: the micro level, and we talk about societies and I 84 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: mentioned a few of them, and I mentioned reading a 85 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: synthesis of Russian mind control techniques. It was fascinating to me, 86 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: which is why I'm so interested in your book. But 87 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: then you look at Mao, China, Stalin Russia, Hitler, Germany 88 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Tojo Japan. You can look at even the Ayahtola and 89 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: the power structure in Iran and how people will beat 90 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: themselves bloody. How do people get in that state? It's 91 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: almost like a hypnotic state. 92 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly what they try to achieve. And I 93 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 3: get into this. I mean, jihadi indoctrination, jihadi mind control 94 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: is what I was dealing with in the CIA counter 95 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: Terrorism Center. Actually the very very opening of the book, Shana, 96 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: I had the CIA had to clear this because it's 97 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: been long enough that I could talk about these things. 98 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: At the time, I got sent as a very junior analyst. 99 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 3: I mean, this is like something out. 100 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: Of a movie. 101 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: I was absolutely not qualified in terms of like years 102 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: on the job or anything. And I admit that they 103 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: sent me in because I said I'll go anywhere. And 104 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: one of the kind of gray hair. Wise, guys in 105 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: my office who had been there a long time is like, fine, kid, 106 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: will send you to chase down these leads in Nigeria 107 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 3: about a group that, by the way, would become Boko 108 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: Haram and one of the biggest terrorist threats in the world. Actually, 109 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 3: I mean when Bokoharam was at its peak about a 110 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 3: decade ago, the only group that was more deadly on 111 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: the world stage was the Islamic States, which, of course 112 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: then Trump came in and you know, wax those guys 113 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: in Syria and all the rest of it. But the 114 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: reality here is the process of indoctrination. The process of 115 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: propagandizing for jihatis is very similar. I mean, it is 116 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: a totalitarian belief. It's a totalitarian ideology. You have to 117 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: give yourself over entirely, and it begins with confusion and degradation. 118 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: Those are two of the primary tactics. They also work 119 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: on things or bring things in like false confession, and 120 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 3: then there's of course identity construction. Once you've been broken down, 121 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: then they remold you, they rebuild you in this image 122 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: or in this framework that is useful to them politically. 123 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: So you see this with the Iyatolos Intereran. You see 124 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: this though in any country where there is a total 125 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: grasp of power over the media, over the apparatus of 126 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: information and communication, and then in this country, I mean, 127 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: I just bring this down to you. You want to 128 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: talk about confusion and degradation as tactics of mind control. 129 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: Look what's going on with the transgender situation, the transgender debate. 130 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: We don't know what words we're supposed to use, what 131 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: pronouns we're supposed to use. You've got these mass shooters 132 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: now who have completely obviously lost their minds that everyone's 133 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: known for a long time. But we are all supposed 134 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: to celebrate their lives. We're all supposed to say that 135 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: what they are going through and what they're doing is 136 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: actually a wonderful thing. And medicine has been supporting this 137 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: up to this point. So it's a mandatory lie. That 138 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: is in fact the heart of the mandatory delusion that 139 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: they're enforcing on people here. And it is a totalitarian 140 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: belief system, right. I mean, if you can't name someone 141 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: what their name was ten years ago because they change 142 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: it and they went from Steve to Susan, and you 143 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: can get kicked off of a platform that is a 144 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: totalitarian ethic. If it's not necessarily the Soviet Union, it's 145 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: still refusing free, open debate and discussion. And I think 146 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: the left in this country is captured by this. 147 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: How do you convince somebody in an individual, a young person, 148 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: assuming that they were born and they weren't born evil. 149 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if my religious beliefs tell me we were 150 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: born in sin, but there is redemption and forgiveness and salvation. 151 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: But putting that aside, how do you convince somebody that 152 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: would otherwise grow up, maybe even agnostic or whatever, that 153 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: if they go out and kill large numbers of people, 154 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: that God or in the case of Islamic radicals, Allah 155 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: will reward them with seven any two versions when they 156 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: kill themselves and then convince them to strap a bomb 157 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: on themselves and go into a crowd and kill innocent people. 158 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: Well, what you're asking is, really it's at the heart 159 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: of how a delusion is manufactured. Obviously the book is 160 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: manufacturing delusion. It gets to this, and it goes through 161 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: these various stages and each chapter sewan. So I mean, 162 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: maybe one way to answer the question is to just 163 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: say that when I pulled together the chapters it's conditioning, 164 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: it's brainwashing, it's isolation, it's forced phobia. That's a big one, 165 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: by the way, and that's essentially you know, phobia is 166 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: an interrational fear, and force phobia would be when they 167 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: put you through the belief that, oh, if you don't 168 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: show up and blow yourself up as a suicide bomber. 169 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: You know, there are British guys who are watching videos 170 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: on YouTube showing up in Iraq when I was there, 171 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: to blow themselves up, right, I mean, you look at 172 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: these things. You're asking, how does an otherwise normal person 173 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: go through this process to the point where they believe, 174 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: whether it's for Hamas or for al Qaeda or for whomever, 175 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: that not only should they do this, it is the 176 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 3: highest moral good that they are pursuing. And it's because 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: they have been put through the delusion has been manufactured. 178 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: They've been put through this process of conditioning, isolation, identity, construction, 179 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: menticide versus killing of the mind, and I go through 180 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: all these are like the different tactics. This is the patchwork. 181 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: It's kind of a cycle, and these things all lead 182 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: into each other. But this psychology on this is fascinating, Sean. 183 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: There's this guy Robert Lifton, I talk about him extensively 184 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: in the book, who was a psychologist who traveled to 185 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: Hong Kong to do a series of interviews with Westerners 186 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: who had been in the early days of MAOIs China, 187 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: had been put through there what they called thought reform, 188 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: and thought reform is actually what gave us brainwashing. We 189 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: call it brainwashing. The Chinese called it thought reform. We 190 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: came up with actually a journalist, med Edward Hunter, came 191 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: up with this term brainwashing, which is really caught on. 192 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: But he sat down with these Westerners, priests, you know, 193 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 3: people that had been their teaching school, who in some 194 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: cases had been abused for months or even a few 195 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: years in these cells, and when they first came out, 196 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: they were willing to defend their captors and their treatment. 197 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: They were willing to talk about how maybe they did 198 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: do the crazy things that they were forced or they 199 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: confessed to doing as part of this process. They were 200 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: so broken down, the conditioning was so extreme that for 201 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: a period of months after they escaped to freedom out 202 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: of Maoist communist China, they weren't themselves at all. And 203 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: this is where you get into at what level can 204 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: our circuitry be rewired. At what level can this stuff 205 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: be controlled? And it always varies, you know, there's the 206 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: to bring it back to Pablo for one second, this 207 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 3: sort of seminal story I tell about Pavlovian conditioning and 208 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: how Lenin and the Soviets were like, this guy's really 209 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 3: onto something. There was an incident at one of Pavlov's 210 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: labs where in Saint Petersburg the river has a had 211 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: a history of rising creating tremendous flooding, and Sean is 212 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: we know he had all these dogs. Pavlov had these 213 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: dogs in cages, and they were in these cages frantic trying, 214 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: you know, knowing that they're going to drown. And at 215 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: the last moment a lab worker managed to get to 216 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: the lab and actually at the ending in the sense 217 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: that the dogs were saved, but they were put through 218 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: so much trauma over the hours of the water rising 219 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: that it changed their personalities. And Pavlov noted this that 220 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: the trauma of facing this death for these animals, some 221 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: of them became aggressive when they had formally been passive. 222 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: Some of them became deeply fearful of certain members of 223 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: staff when they had been very close to them. It 224 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: had redone their wiring and Pavlov had this aha moment. 225 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 3: So you know, some of it is through for sean 226 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 3: and some of it is through messaging. Right, there's locking 227 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: people in a cell, there's making them repeat the same 228 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: thing over and over again. That's a lie. And those 229 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: things combined together and this was it was really like 230 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: a machine. I mean it was. That's why it's manufactured. 231 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: The Soviets did it, the Chinese did it, and college 232 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: campuses do it today in the lessis so I mean, 233 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: this is the thing. They don't do it with you 234 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: in a cell, but there are similar tactics that are applied. 235 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: And that's why people can believe things like you know, 236 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: women can have male genitalia, and they say these things 237 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 3: out loud. In our society, it all ties in. 238 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine, you know that it's been five 239 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: years since the passing of rush Laba. 240 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: It really is. 241 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: And I said at the time and I stand by 242 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: this today, that nobody can ever replace Babe Ruth. I 243 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: mean that's what he was. I mean, what's amazing about 244 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: his life to me is that he forged a path 245 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: and he took so much heat throughout his career, and 246 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: all of us in talk radio, all of us even 247 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: on cable news, everybody in the podcast arena, and everybody 248 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: you know, we debt of gratitude to him because he 249 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: took opinionated program programming and he went national and he 250 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: became a phenomenon, and he did it with a great 251 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: sense of humor, always had his tongue in his cheek, 252 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: and with amazing analysis and insights that you could never 253 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: get from anyone else. I used to listen to him 254 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: and think, man, why didn't I think of that? Because 255 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: he had a way of looking at things that was 256 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: just on a different level, a different dimension even. And anyway, 257 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: it's hard to, you know, think that it's been five 258 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: years already since we lost him. And I said at 259 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: the time, and I'll say again today, that I know 260 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: what Rush would want. I knew him personally, and I'm 261 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: not saying I was his best friend. 262 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: I wasn't. 263 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you he would want all of us 264 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: to do what we're doing now, which is to fight 265 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: for liberty and freedom and individualism and to be the 266 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: best you can be, and to fight for our country 267 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: and to battle the radical left. I don't think you'd 268 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: like a lot of the the quote infighting that's going on. 269 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: You notice, Linda, I've stayed out of a lot of 270 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: that crap. I don't want any part of it. I 271 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: really don't. 272 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: No, that's I mean, listen, First of all, you know 273 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: you have seventy eight jobs. You're a little busy. You 274 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: don't have time to get quote up in any of 275 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: the crap. 276 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: No. 277 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: I just but I really don't care what other people 278 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: do or say. I mean, that's why you know. Fox 279 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: pr tells me that they're going to write a story 280 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: that you're jealous of, pun I'm like, jealous of what. 281 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: I don't pay attention to. 282 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: What most people are doing. I'm like, go do your thing. 283 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing. And my goal is to 284 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: create the best content I can produce. 285 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: We try. 286 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: We all work so hard to do a great three 287 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: hours of radio every day, and we work hard for TV. 288 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: And I'll work hard on this video podcast that we're 289 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: releasing a couple of days a week. It gives me 290 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: a chance to do something differ, long form, not rushed, 291 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: less interruptive. People complain about interruptions, but you have five 292 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: minutes on TV. You got to get you gotta get 293 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: answers from people sometimes, but in you know, remembering Rush. 294 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: Yesterday last night President Trump put this message out. 295 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: I want to play for you. 296 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 5: Well, this is the fifth anniversary of the loss of 297 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 5: a really great man, a great conservative, somebody that loved 298 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: our country, loved his family, loved a lot of things. 299 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 5: But he was a friend of mine, Rush Limbo. I 300 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: had never met Rush when I announced that I was running. 301 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 5: I'll never forget twenty fifteen and I got a call. 302 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 5: We're all excited that Rush Limbo just endorsed you. I 303 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 5: never met him. He liked my opening speech. He liked 304 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: when I got up in June and I said, you know, 305 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: we got bad borders, we got bad crime, we got 306 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 5: bad everything, and he liked it. 307 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: I came down the escalator. 308 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: With now our first leg and he thought it was great, 309 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 5: and he indorsed me. And then I got to know 310 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 5: him and I realized what a great guy he was. 311 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 5: But it's five years and we miss Rush and showing 312 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 5: how that he would often say, there will never be 313 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 5: another Rush Limbaugh. So to his family, his great wife 314 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: and family, I just want to say. 315 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: We miss you all. 316 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 5: We miss him, and they'll never be anybody like him, 317 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: Thank you very much. 318 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: It'll never be anyone else like him. It was fun 319 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: to hang out with too. Some times I hung out 320 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: with him. We remember we went would go down to 321 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: Palm Beach and we'd go in his studio and I'd 322 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: interview him for an hour for TV listen. 323 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: When we went down to the compound, and it was 324 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: before you had like officially moved all the way there, 325 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: and it was crazy to see the EIB network. It 326 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: was a beautiful place. They had really nice people there. 327 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 4: He couldn't have been more gracious, you know, and he 328 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 4: just it's when you saw the operation all it reminds 329 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: me of you, like, you know, he had a stack 330 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: of stuff and it was just papers everywhere. It's like 331 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 4: when I say to you, hey, I handed that to you. 332 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: In three seconds later you're like, you never gave that 333 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 4: to me. I'm like, well, it's missing in the mountain 334 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: of paperwork. But it's a real thing when people are 335 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 4: hosting and they're actually doing research and then they make 336 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: notes and they go back to it. You know, he 337 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: was the he was the og when it came to that. 338 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 2: Oh, big time, big, big, big time. You know. He 339 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: syndicated in nineteen eighty eight. 340 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: I started in radio in nineteen eighty seven, and I 341 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: will never forget. 342 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: Where I was. 343 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: I was actually at that college radio station that ran 344 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: me out of town. And some guy comes in. You 345 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: got to listen to this guy, Rush Limbaugh. And he 346 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: was on KTMS and Santa Barbara at the time when 347 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: I lived out in California, and this is in the 348 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: eighties for Crinold and he did a homeless update like 349 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: the first time, and he was talking about Santa Barbara. 350 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: Became huge out there. 351 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: And was he talking about you? Because you used to 352 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: lean up against the trees and drink with the homeless? 353 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: Was it you? I did do that occasionally when I'm like, 354 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: did you see Sean Hannity? 355 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: You know what, I learned a lot about homeless people 356 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: back then. A lot of them were vets. A lot 357 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: of them, you know, just use the old phrase down 358 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: on their luck and when you have conversations with them. 359 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: I just I learned a lot of I felt sorry 360 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: for them. I wish, you know, we'd talked to them. 361 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: I talked to them about, well, how are you going 362 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: to get out of this hole you're in? Anytime I 363 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: run into a homeless person now, I At one point 364 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: in my life, I was stubborn and stupid, and I 365 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: thought I'd never give money to like somebody that is 366 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: asking for money. Now, I will stop and I will 367 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: talk to them, and if they seem sober, I will 368 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: last them, are you going to spend those money on 369 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: drugs or alcohol? I just want you to tell me 370 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: the truth of you are. And inevitably, I've yet to 371 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: have one person say, well, actually no. I did have 372 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: one guy say, yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to probably 373 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: buy some beer if it's okay. 374 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: He did say that that'ssible. 375 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: Well okay, so I My usual practice is to give 376 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: him like twenty bucks so they don't have to stand 377 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: out there all day getting a dollar here, fifty cents there, 378 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: and whatever. And I'm like, please, don't waste my money 379 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: on drugs and alcohol. Please get some nourishment in your body, 380 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: get some food. And then I talked to him about, 381 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: you know how, maybe they might want to come up 382 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: with a plan to. 383 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: Get out of the situation that they're in. 384 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: And I'll ask them if they work, and I'll ask 385 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: them if they have a place to live, and I'll 386 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: ask them a bunch of questions and sometimes you have 387 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: long conversations. Remember I was outside of seven to eleven, 388 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: not far from where I live, and I was talking 389 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: to this guy for a half hour. Another guy walks 390 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: by and says Sean Hannity. I said, yes, sir, And 391 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: he's like looking at me like I'm crazy having this 392 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: long conversation. 393 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: With his homeless guy. 394 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 6: But I you know, I talked him about God and 395 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 6: about addiction and about getting a job and getting a 396 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 6: small studio apartment and getting his life on track. And 397 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 6: I went through it all. I don't know. If I 398 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 6: have the time, I like to do that. You wouldn't 399 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 6: give a homeless person a penny, would you. 400 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: I would give them a sandwich. 401 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: I would give them food, that's cool. I will not 402 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: give them money. 403 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 4: I actually gave a homeless guy money one time, one 404 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: time when I was living in Chelsea and it was 405 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 4: the same guy and I saw him and it was 406 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: very cold, and I went up and I tried to 407 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 4: give him a sandwich and he threw it in my 408 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 4: face and he called me a bunch of disgusting words. 409 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: And he said, if you're not going to give me 410 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 4: cash or crack, keep him moving. I said, all right, 411 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 4: good talk. Give me the sandwich back. 412 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: He took this. He took this. 413 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: It was in. 414 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: Tinfoil, so no harm was done. I'm like, fine, you 415 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 4: don't want the sandwich. Fine, It's just you know, there 416 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 4: is there is a real mental health and drug abuse 417 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: problem in the homeless encampments. You know, literally, Like I 418 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: came through the subway today and I mean there are 419 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 4: people just rolling their drugs up on like the shelves 420 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 4: of Like there's like little like areas you can stand 421 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: in on the platform. I have one guy shooting up, 422 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 4: one guy with a pipe, one guy rolling his next joint. 423 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: I was like, I cannot believe where we're at is 424 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: a real thing. 425 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you have to assess the situation and 426 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: make sure that it's safe. I just happen to be 427 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: in a position I can protect myself. I wouldn't recommend 428 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: everybody do this, and I don't know, I just I 429 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: feel compelled to do it. 430 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: And I don't know why, but I do. 431 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: And many a time I've been with my kids and 432 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: they're like rolling their eyes, and or if we pass 433 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: somebody on the street, you know, I'll take money out 434 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: of my pocket. My kids will be betting how much 435 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to give them, and I don't. I don't 436 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: think it's a bad idea, but I don't. 437 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm not. 438 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it because I think I'm I'm able 439 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: to afford it. What's the worst that can happen? They 440 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: can lie to me and they're gonna get the money, 441 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna get the drugs, they're gonna get do the 442 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: drinking anyway. What's the worst that can happen? That I 443 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: try to give them a little help. But more importantly, 444 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: I find the talking part is what surprises them. Like 445 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: in New York, I think I was less inclined to 446 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: do it because there's so much danger among those that 447 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: are mentally ill, that are homeless, that are begging, you know, 448 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: the tendency towards violence if somebody's on crack or heroin, 449 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: and I it just was not the right environment. But 450 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: I find down here it's you know, you can have 451 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: conversations with people, and I do. 452 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: Aren't you proud of me? 453 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 4: Listen, it's a sunshine state for a reason, my friend, 454 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: people are happy. It's cold, foggy and snowy. 455 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 2: Maggie and Michigan, Hey Maggie, how are you? 456 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: Hey? 457 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 7: Sean great, great to talk to you. 458 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 5: Hey, I called. 459 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 7: I wanted to just tell you a little bit about 460 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 7: how I'm feeling very disconcerted about the changes with a 461 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 7: Save Act and how the left is actually trying to 462 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 7: use this now as a mechanism for making people feel 463 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 7: like they are trying to put against the women's vote, 464 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 7: because the women now have to go back and find 465 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 7: their marriage license if their name is different than their 466 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: first certificates, or they've had to do that for like 467 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 7: if they've gone through a divorce and had their name 468 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 7: changed or something. And I've seen so many posts of 469 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 7: my friends and other family members that have said that 470 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 7: this is only a conspiracy against trying to keep women 471 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 7: from voting, and we need to get rid of the 472 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 7: Save Act because of this, And you know, like, what 473 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 7: is the deal, Plase. 474 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: Let me play one Democrat doing exactly what you're saying, 475 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: and this is Jared Masquois. 476 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: Mascots how an. 477 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: ID to vote would be in step with the law. 478 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: So are you going to vote for the. 479 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 8: Law if they put a forward a bill that says 480 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 8: you can use your driver's license or your state issued 481 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 8: identification to vote. I support that we have that in Florida, 482 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 8: but the Save Act goes. 483 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: Way beyond that. 484 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 8: It would affect It would affect women whose birth certificate 485 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 8: doesn't match their driver's license. It will depress turnout by 486 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 8: requiring people to go and reregister. 487 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: To go get this new. 488 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: It is true. 489 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 8: This is it is absolutely true. This is a this 490 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 8: is a This is about depressing turnout. It's not about 491 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 8: making sure non citizens vote. 492 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: Absolute lie. 493 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: The thirty two page legislation in the Save Act specifically 494 00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: addresses that issue. Their line. So you're right, he's wrong, 495 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: Maggie crazy. 496 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 7: So keep doing what you're doing. 497 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: Appreciate it all right, thank you eight hundred and nine 498 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: four one, Sewan, if you want to be a part 499 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: of the program. Right, that's going to wrap things up 500 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: at today Hannity Tonight, nine eastern on the Fox News Channel. Now, 501 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: by the way, we do have an update in the 502 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: search for Nancy Guthrie. Apparently some Internet user search for 503 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: Nancy Guthrie's address and Savannah Guthrie's salary before the mother vanished. 504 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: Don't you think that's odd? 505 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: London. 506 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you, Sean, I think this 507 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: whole thing is odd. There are so many things that 508 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: are more wrong than right, it is, it's really over. 509 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. 510 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: We'll co have that with Nancy Grace tonight nine Eastern 511 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: on the Fox News Channel. Also tonight we have Senator 512 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz Wright's previous tonight, Riley Gaines, doctor Drew Caroline 513 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: Sunshine is going to join us a much much more 514 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: Set your DVR Tonight, nine Eastern Hannity on Fox. Will 515 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: see then back here tomorrow. Thank you for making the 516 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: show possible.