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Welcome to Wired 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you the latest reports 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: from the White Tailed Woods and now your hosts, Casey Smith, 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: Tyler Jones. This is rut Fresh Radio powered by Vortex Optics. 23 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: This week, the common theme seems to be tough conditions 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: in mid October. However, if you can find a limited resource, 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: you can for sure find the bucks. This is rut 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Fresh Radio, brought to you by Vortex Optics. I'm Tyler Jones, 27 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: your host, and Casey Smith is with me as well. 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Everybody's favorite dude, and this whole this whole space, man, 29 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: just like my little tiny space over in the corner. 30 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: Thanks man, I appreciate that. Um. So, we just got 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: back from a trip, A long trip. Can you call 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: it just one trip? Goodness? Michael Schagen's head, yes, he 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: says that I was gone for three weeks. We spent 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: a greater part of ten or eleven days maybe more 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: out and um, we ended up hitting Nebraska and South Dakota. 36 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: We talked about it last week. Nebraska was really successful 37 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: and South Dakota ended up being also successful. Pretty excited 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: about that because, um, that's another one of those episodes 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: that we talked about. UM going on the Mediator Channel, 40 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: which is UH series that for now is called The 41 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: buck Truck and UH it's a it's a series that 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: we're producing that should come out next year in UM, 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: so it'll hype you up next year. But uh, in 44 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: the meantime, we're sharing pictures on our Instagram. Uh some 45 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: success we've had. And we're gonna talk a little bit 46 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: about South Dakota here, but the full story goes down 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: in the Element podcast, so you can definitely check that 48 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: out if you want to go over to the Element 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: check that out. UM, we would very much appreciate that. 50 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: So with that said, UM, what are your takeaways from 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: South Dakota. Don't ever assume something is easy in the 52 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: hunting world, because we found us South Dakota a few 53 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: years and felt like it was like a dreamland, and 54 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: this year it was most definitely not a dream land. 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: It was somewhat complicated and difficult because of the tough conditions. 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Just like the guys that we're gonna talk to today. 57 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,559 Speaker 1: We've got Sam Hogan in Michigan, Jonathan Moreland from Arkansas, 58 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: Jason red in North Carolina, and Jake Hoefer in Illinois. 59 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: And there's a real common theme across the country right now, 60 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and that is tough conditions. And that's what we were 61 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: met with in South Dakota as well. Particularly drought. I 62 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: think that is something that's kind of fairly consistent across 63 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: the country, even these places that I've had, you know, 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: some hurricane type rains and stuff, we're dealing with drought. 65 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: You know, you can't just break a drought with one 66 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: weather instance, right, It's got to be sustained rainfall, and um, 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we dealt with. The deer were on 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: food sources, hardcore. It's weird because you think a drought 69 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: as a water thing, right, And we had you know, 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: the King of Water, Tony on the trip with us 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: in South Dakota. Tony Peterson. You guys know him probably 72 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: pretty well. He's that guy that's on the Little Mermaid 73 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: that has like the trident and stuff right the water. Yeah, yeah, 74 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: that's Tony, aqua man, and uh he's been uh, he's 75 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: been killing deer off water holes forever. Well. The drought 76 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: plays into that, you think, right, and certainly I think 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: deer could have been killed on water. We actually focused 78 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: on that early as well, and then we realized throughout 79 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: the trip, which this this is part of the story 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: we probably won't tell a whole lot about, but I 81 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: had a lot of scouting time on this trip, and 82 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: I realized as these guys were out hunting and setting 83 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: up in these things, that I've seen a lot of 84 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: deer on food, which, um, you know, you know, you 85 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: don't necessarily think of when you're thinking about drought, but 86 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: really what ends up happening in a drought is there's 87 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot less food on the landscape, and a deer 88 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: can't just sit there and eat on an agg field 89 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: all night. Um, so it needs those native forage food 90 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: sources to expand its diet, to just have better digestive 91 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: process and all these things that are good for it, right, 92 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: different protein uh balances and these kind of things. So 93 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: with that, these deer are definitely having to eat native brows, 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: but there's a lot less of it on landscapes. They 95 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: can't you sit there and hammer this stuff. They have 96 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: to go to these eggs, egg food sources that are 97 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: man man made essentially. And we noticed corn was like 98 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: the deal, which is weird because you know, also uh 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: with then some of these corn fields they plant beans 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: and the beans were hammered to you just didn't see them. 101 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: You didn't notice the things out there. They were on 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: their tier tube food source, which was the corn because 103 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: the beans already gone. You know, like the at some 104 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: point in time there was even some I don't mean 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: green beans, but like green leaf soybeans. Um, there was 106 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: some of that still there, but you could tell that 107 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: the leaves were gone, like they weren't dead yet. You know, 108 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: that's part of their water intake. I would imagine it's 109 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: like a deer's water intake comes from its food. Like 110 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: we were talking about this either not animals in general 111 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: don't treat water the way that humans do. Our dehydration 112 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: is the animals like they're hydrated at that point. You 113 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: look at this, the way a buck uses a scrape 114 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: and what is coming out of him excrement wise, like 115 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: it's dark, right, and the way it's nasty. The way 116 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: it's getting that way is it is viscous as they say, okay, 117 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: so it's big um so uh. You know, they just 118 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: kind of have a different take on hydration and it's 119 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: it's very much more impulsive. Uh, and they will drink water. 120 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: In fact, I killed a really nice Oklahoma buck over 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: water last year in a drought situation. That video actually 122 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: is on the YouTube channel for the Element just went out, 123 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: if you wanna go check that out. See what you 124 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: can do over a water source. Uh particularly actually that 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: was the late season, but all year long you can 126 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: have some good opportunities over water source. But don't think 127 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: that drought means water source. Let me just say that 128 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: video is insane. I'm just gonna go ahead and say 129 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: that because I can say because I just because you 130 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: had the thing happen to even man it is you're 131 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: also there, well I was, and I and when like 132 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: the title is jaw dropping footage, and I think of 133 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: that because my jaw I'm not liking a dramatic person 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: and my draw jaw was drowned. It was one of 135 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: those times where we didn't know how to react after 136 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I shot. And this is a thing too, and y'all 137 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: are a captured audience, so we can talk about this. 138 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: It comes out as laughter sometimes, but it's just like 139 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: a relief relief exactly. You know, it's like, oh my goodness, 140 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't it's overload century overload, and it's just it's 141 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: worth going to see. But um anyways, um, water is 142 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: only the like one of the things that you have 143 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: to have. Right. In fact, I had success in South 144 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Dakota over natural brows, but it was on a like 145 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: food to bed pattern, as the deer were loafing on 146 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: their way back to where they were going to bed 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: that day, which is how I killed last year South Dakota. 148 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. So that's a that's an effective thing 149 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: that not many people talk about, is the like native 150 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: brows coming back. It's like uh, staging before bad pretty 151 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: much as opposed to like staging before they go to 152 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: a food source. And we were dealing with pretty warm 153 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: tempts and deer that did not want to move in 154 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: the evenings much at all, uh, and some vwts even uh. 155 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: So uh, you add all that up together and you 156 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: get a kind of um abstract train of thought in 157 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: the white to world that hey, mornings are actually pretty 158 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: good right now. You know, Like we're actually texting with 159 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: her friend here before we get on the podcast, and 160 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: he's talking about how he loves hunting mornings, and you know, 161 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: the common thought is that mornings are bad in October. 162 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't say that you should just barrel off 163 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: in somewhere and hunting morning without any information, but if 164 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: you know something good, like particularly us, uh, we were 165 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: seeing deer movement for the first hour and a half 166 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: a daylight, but only like the last fifteen minutes in 167 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: the evening, Like there's a lot more time to kill 168 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: a deer. And also they're further away from their beds 169 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: in the morning and you can get into a place 170 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: without disturbing stuff, whereas in the evening. I mean, what 171 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: hunter had some success in the evening and uh, but 172 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: they had to be like sixty yards from the deer's 173 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: bed and and they couldn't set up in a tree 174 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: because they were so close to bed exactly. And you know, 175 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: that's all well and good, and that's cool to be 176 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: close like that. Uh, And it's like a neat thing 177 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: to talk about as a hunter, like oh, shot shotting 178 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: from his bed or whatever. But you're gonna mess that 179 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: up more than you're gonna get right. That's right. There's 180 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: there's some stuff that's fun and cool in the white 181 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: to world, but you're gonna mess it up a lot, 182 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: you know. And with that, sad man, I think, uh, 183 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, these are these are thoughts about how to 184 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: beat the October laws. Some of the things we're trying 185 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: to give you right now in the way that we've 186 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: seen it beat been beat in the last couple of 187 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: weeks as we've gone through early October in Nebraska and 188 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: South Dakota. So with that, we've got a couple of 189 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: guys that have some thoughts about what's gonna come up 190 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: this week. Uh scale of one to ten type stuff 191 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: that you guys live for, right, and that gives you hope, 192 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna enjoy some of these interviews. 193 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: So Tyler, before we get to that, give me you're 194 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: one to ten for South Dakota over the next week. Man. Um, 195 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: So this is obviously my experience, this is this is 196 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: um with the way we are hunting. Um. It might 197 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: be different on private because this was on public land, 198 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: but UM, I think uh when I left, it was 199 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: twenty nine degrees and the deer were crawling. From what 200 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: I heard from people who stayed back a little bit 201 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: and saw that morning, I think that if we continue 202 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: in South Dakota continues to get that kind of weather 203 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: where you got frosty mornings, Um, I think it's gonna 204 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: be really good because that just increases their need for food. 205 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: UM as they get colder and there's only so much 206 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: food on the landscape because of the drought, right, so 207 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: they're going to be very much focused in and concentrated 208 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: on that food. So I think if I was gonna 209 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: say one to ten, i'd put it like six to seven. Probably, 210 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: that's kind of I was in the six range. Um. 211 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: There is a decimal thrown out in this episode, so 212 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold off on the decimals and land let 213 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: that guy have, But I would be in that and maybe, 214 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, after you talk about it, I might be 215 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: close to a seven. I just hate to give it 216 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: that high and number because it's that takes a lot, 217 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: but it could be close because of the scrape activity 218 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: we also saw. I think there's a there's a factor 219 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: in there of like your potential to kill as opposed 220 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: to just deer movement. Yeah, I think the potential to 221 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: kill a lot of people think it is like when 222 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: they think of that one to ten number, to think of, here, 223 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: what is my potential to kill? And so it's more 224 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: more than like it being a nine or eight out 225 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: of ten, and on the ultimate day movement or deer 226 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: movement day, it's really like they're factory and some of that, Like, well, 227 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: I kind of have them figured out right now. So 228 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm pretty feeling pretty good, you know, Yeah, exactly and 229 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: that's actually what we're trying to do here is to 230 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: help you get them figured out before you even get 231 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: to the woods. That's what rough Fresh is all about. 232 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: But I think that combine the food aspect with the 233 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: scraping activity. I killed over a scrape. The deer wasn't 234 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: on the scrape, but the scrape was there. So you know, 235 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: bucks are around and they're they're doing bucky things. Hunter 236 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: killed near scrape. Uh, came and checked the scrape right, 237 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: he was trying to think, so, yeah, he hadn't made it. 238 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: He didn't let him make it there that you're gonna 239 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: have to just watch channel. That's right, Spooky City Halloween 240 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: before Halloween. It is, dude. But we also we ran 241 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: a decent amount of cell cameras while we're up there, 242 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: and we were seeing a lot of scrape activity there too, 243 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: and some of that stuff was right at legal shooting lot. 244 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 1: And I think as temperatures progress, uh to get a 245 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: little colder, you will see those dear being there in 246 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: shooting lot and that's exciting because we like to shoot them. 247 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: As they say. So, let's talk to a few guys 248 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: who actually have maybe been doing a little shooting and 249 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: see what's going on around the country? Okay, now we 250 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: now on the phone. On the phone now, Sam Hogan. 251 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: He loves making fun of me. But you know what, 252 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: at least I call taco shells taco shells, that's right, 253 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: not Peter. We both didn't do it, right, No, No, 254 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't. Hey, what's been going on? Man, 255 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Michigan been treating You're right, it has been. Uh seasons 256 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: off to a pretty good start. And uh, I'm just 257 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: happy to be in a tree again. Do you get 258 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: paid guide fees when you take your friends out and 259 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: the shoot deer? You know? Um, I have yet to 260 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: profit on any of that, but I'm sure there's some 261 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: sort of business man problem. You're pretty entrepreneurial, so I 262 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: mean it's just fun. Yeah, dude, flip this deer. Stand 263 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: you know what, let's go. We got the new h 264 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: TV video going here. Man, with the prices of some 265 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: of these mobile rings, now I probably could yeah, telling you, 266 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you well, so uh on that note, you're 267 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: a pretty mobile guy. You get out, you get after it, 268 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: You hunt a lot of public and private. Um every 269 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: once in a while. You sent me a picture of 270 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: a big deer. You're after and uh, A lot of 271 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: times you send me picture of dead bucks that you've 272 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: killed as well. You're a good hunter, very humble, and 273 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: so we just want to pick your brain a little 274 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: bit about what Michigan is like recently. Uh, you had 275 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: some success recently, right, Yeah, I actually shot a dough 276 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: last night. Um, and and that's been that's been good. 277 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: I've been on a pretty good buck, especially by by 278 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Michigan standards, probably around the one mark, which is uh 279 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: the biggest I've had the luxury of chasing around here. 280 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: But the dough was on a different piece of private 281 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: that I could get the truck to, um a little 282 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:45,359 Speaker 1: easier than packing the dougheut too terribly far. So well, yeah, 283 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: so what was that? What was that dough doing? The 284 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: dough was working a kind of a your typical terrain 285 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: feature break uh and uh hitting a couple of these 286 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: apple trees that are right on the edge of these 287 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: these uh thick kind of crp areas with some oaks 288 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: in them, and they browsed around on oaks, but they 289 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: really love the apples, so we'll pop out every once 290 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: in a while. I passed a couple of different uh, 291 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: younger bucks yesterday and um all kind of coming to 292 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: this apple tree and then feeding out to kind of 293 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: the main the main food source there is a giant 294 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: apple orchard, so it's a it's a little pre snack. 295 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: I have listen to Mark Kenyan's podcast a few times 296 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: and more in the Michigan pass actually just means they're 297 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: too far to shoot, just what I understand. So yeah, yeah, uh, 298 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: it got pretty warm. So I ended up dropping this 299 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: one off at a processor and I looked around. I said, yep, 300 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: it's Michigan. That's cool though, Man, congrat some the early 301 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: season's success and being able to get a little bit 302 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: of a little bit of meat. What do you think 303 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: is going on in the woods of Michigan right now 304 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: or do you're still really hitting you know some of 305 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: the egg food sources and stuff. Yeah, they're they're corn 306 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: has started to become hot early season when it's all 307 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: green that it doesn't really have the draw beans are 308 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: beans are definitely winded down a little bit, but I 309 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: still see him standing out there every once in a while. 310 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: But acorns or shoot, I'm saying it wrong, they just 311 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: do it just the acorns are are still a lot um. 312 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: But like I said, the apples are kind of tailing off. 313 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: But but if you've got a fresh apple tree there, 314 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: h they're still eating them. Um. But but yeah, the 315 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: the beans are beans are slowing down woody brows. I 316 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: cut a couple of um shooting lanes on one of 317 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: my private pieces, and I had two little bucks come 318 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: in just mowing down them maple leaves. So they've been 319 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: eating those two um seeh it's it's it's kind of 320 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: transitioning to your typical fall food sources. So will they 321 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: be uh, like in the next week or so, they 322 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: you think they'll start really focusing on those egg worns. Yeah, 323 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: those acorns will be a real big hit, um, especially 324 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: if you can. I mean everybody knows this, but the 325 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: the white oaks have the best decorns. But but in 326 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: some of these swampy spots, uh, some of the pin 327 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: oaks dropped and uh and they love that too, so 328 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: they don't. Actually it's hard to and where I'm from 329 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: in southwestern Michigan, it's hard to pin down um, a good, 330 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: good old acorn tree just because just because there's so 331 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: many of them. Yeah, it's it's hard to uh, it's 332 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: hard to figure it out. But they've been starting to 333 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: put down a little more sign um. Obviously rubs have 334 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: been popping up since they've been losing velvet or since 335 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: they've lost velvet, and uh, it's it's just getting hotter. 336 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, right now is a full moon 337 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: time and it's kind of gonna start waning a little 338 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: bit here. But do you see much of that affecting 339 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: any of the October movement that that you're looking at 340 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: for bucks. I'll be honest, I I have not paid 341 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: too much, uh too much attention to it. Um. I 342 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: will say it was a very full moon uh last 343 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: night and I saw okay, I saw every book that 344 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: I've ever gotten on that trail camera on his feet. 345 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: Um so so that I mean, that's a testament to 346 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: how nonproductive by trail camera has been. I shot a 347 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: dough but but they've all been they've all been moving. 348 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: So Uh, Michigan, I'm assuming he's a like a lot 349 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: of the rest of the country. It's had pretty dry 350 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: summer and early fall, but I know Michigan has a 351 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: ton of water. Um our mosquito is bad right now. 352 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: And do you does that actually affect dear movement? They 353 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: were pretty bad early, but it's actually been pretty uh 354 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: pretty cold here this morning with eight degrees thirty nine 355 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: degrees and uh, and we have not had a mosquito 356 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: problem in the last It seems like when it gets 357 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: that cold, they're they're gone. Now right now, I'm sitting 358 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: in the truck at sixty seven degrees, So when I 359 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: go out tonight it uh, it might be uh, I 360 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: might change my tune on that, but last night was great. 361 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: M Yeah, So coming up this week, looking at the 362 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: moon affecting your truck camor movement, uh, potentially cold fronts 363 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: that are that are coming in, uh, different food sources 364 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: like acorns dropping in, those kind of things and and 365 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: all that. What would you say, on a scale of 366 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: one to ten, what would you predict the buck movement 367 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: to be like in the next week or so. We've 368 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: got that cold trunk coming in on Thursday, so it'll 369 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: be the day after this this releases. Um, we're recording 370 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: this today and it's it's about to it's about to 371 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: get pretty warm, but then it drops back down. So 372 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: we're after the release of this, it's only gonna get better. 373 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: And I love how October plays out. It seems to 374 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: get better than the time goes on. So I'm gonna 375 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: give it a I'm gonna give it a six and 376 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: a half. We're throwing halves in here. This is a 377 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: second decimal of this this whole podcast, and both have 378 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: coming this week. So congrats on that, dude. You're you're 379 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: very extraordinary. Man goes to the extra lengths man, that's 380 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: what it is. Hey, thank thanks for hopping on in. 381 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: Hopefully you'll get a crack at that target buck you've got, man, 382 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,959 Speaker 1: and we'll have to get you back on and talk 383 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: a little bit about what you're seeing at that time. 384 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: So best of luck this season. Man. Alrighty appreciate it. 385 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: You guys too. I've got Jonathan Morland on the phone. 386 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: He is a hunter in Arkansas. Man, what has been 387 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: going on? Dude? Man, we've just uh, just trying to 388 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: kick it, get the season kicked off. So bending a 389 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: little bit of hunting and mostly scalting, not a whole 390 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: lot of time on the tree, but a lot of 391 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: time on the boards in the last week or so. 392 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: I guess you see, you're pretty accomplished hunter, particularly a 393 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: traditional hunter, so I know that that us actually make 394 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of difference to you as far as 395 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: the way you scout and hunt. I would imagine what 396 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: are some things that you're really keen in on right now, 397 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: trying to make sure you can get close range of 398 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: these deer right now. It's a little different for the 399 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: South for what I normally try to do. We've got 400 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: abnormally dry conditions down here this year. It hasn't rained 401 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: in almost three weeks. So normally this time of year, 402 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm focusing on a hot feeed tree, whether it be 403 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: up for simmon or water oak or early dropping pin oak. 404 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: But this year, the deer, they are really keen in 405 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: on the water. So anywhere I can get closer to 406 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: a water source, I'm I'm saying quite a few deer 407 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: actually killed a doll the other day coming to an 408 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: old lake bed that's normally the full of water, which 409 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: is which is starting to drop now. So anywhere you 410 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: can get near waters, it's just pretty good right now. 411 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: That's cool. Do you feel like deer use running water 412 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: and sanding water all the same, or do you have 413 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: a particular type of water soorce you like the key 414 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: in on? You know us to this where I'm at 415 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: right now is standing because the record low river levels 416 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: right now, so it's just pockets of water. But you know, 417 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: typically did when it's down here in the south, We've 418 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of lush vegetation, so normally they can 419 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: they can kind of get it throughout the woods, but 420 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: right now they're having to come to it. Um. Also 421 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: with this dry weather, I'm noticing a lot of early 422 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: dropping mass crops also, so like some of these acres 423 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: are dropping earlier than normal. Um. But yeah, it's uh, 424 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, as far as buck activity, so far, I've 425 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: seen a few bucks, but it's it's still pretty pretty 426 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: slow right now. What about scrapes? You're looking at scrapes 427 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: this time of year when you're out there scouting. Made 428 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: a big loop yesterday Sault. I think seven or eight 429 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: scrapes yesterday, So they're just now kind of start getting 430 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: going there. Will you focus Will you focus on that 431 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: going forward? Are you still gonna be on the water? No? No, 432 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't typically start focusing on that until later on 433 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: in the year. Right now, it's still it's still food 434 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: sources and water right now with the with the and 435 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: dry Yeah, is your is your right a typical rut 436 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: compared to everybody else in the country. Um, So down here, 437 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that magic week is is around that 438 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week down here at the prime time. Got you 439 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: so a little bit later, so that would make sense 440 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: for some of the rud activity you pushed back a 441 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: little bit later to what do you think about the 442 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: moon stuff? You pay much attention to the moon. I 443 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: know we're kind of coming off a big full moon 444 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: right now and a lot of guys are thinking about it. 445 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'll pay attention to it just because I'm curious, 446 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: and I do try to document, you know, where the 447 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: moon's at and what the what the direct to what 448 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But uh, typically, you know, when I have 449 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity to hunt, I'm just you know, I'm hunting regardless. 450 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't really plan my hunts around the moon. Yeah, yeah, 451 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: I understand that. It's exactly, and I've got an opportunity 452 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: to hunt, I'm gonna Yeah. It's just it's like a 453 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: confidence booster, right, like all the moon's doing something good. 454 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: I feel good about this huthing. But you're still gonna 455 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: go out there, and I mean you're in the South, 456 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: so you know, And this is how I feel too, 457 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: Like it's a game and numbers sometimes, right, you just 458 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: gotta have your hangs in the tree and sooner or 459 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: later it's gonna work out. Yeah. So, uh what did 460 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: you Uh, how'd that set up go for that dough 461 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: that you killed? Man? Where you hunt over food sources 462 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: or you said there's over water? Right? Was there any anywhere? Yeah? No, 463 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: whether there's some ag not far. But uh, now I 464 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: just caught her coming to an old lake. Uh there 465 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: there's a willow flat in there, and just had a 466 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: just had a really good setup, uh, some really good 467 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: cover there on the edge of the lake bank and 468 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: there was a main trail coming where they're coming down 469 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: there to hit that water, and just just called her 470 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: off go or coming up right to that water. You 471 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: get a lot when the setup works perfect. Rights. So 472 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: a lot of the country is talking about cold fronts 473 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: and stuff coming uh in the next week. Now in 474 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: the South, we kind of get cool fronts more than 475 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: cold fronts, you know, And I think we're looking forward 476 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: to like a three or four degree cooler morning the 477 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: normal here in this next week. I don't know if 478 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: things are much different where you're at. But with all 479 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: that stuff can centered in kind of compiling the information 480 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: that you've already gained from scouting in previous experience, what 481 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: do you expect the bug movement to be lot like 482 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: over the next week. So we have here in the 483 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: south which I'm in South Arkarsas, we've got some we've 484 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: got some fronts moving in. I believe it's Wednesday or Thursday. Uh, 485 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: cool front is that's supposed to produce a precipitation. So 486 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it hasn't rained down here 487 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: in over three weeks, so you know, if we do 488 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: catch a little rain, I would expect that to really 489 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: to really get some there up on their feet. So um, 490 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, I expected to to increase just a little 491 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: bit compared to last week. Got you. So if you 492 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: had to rate it between one and tim, what would 493 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: you rate it. I'm gonna give it about a about 494 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: a six. Okay, that's a good conservative number. I like 495 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: it though. But things are ramping up and kind of 496 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: gearing towards that in the magic November we've got coming, man. 497 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: So I appreciate the time they today, dude, and I 498 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: hope you have a great rest of the season, y'all. 499 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: Tell good luck y'all. Okay, So now on the phone, 500 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: we've got Jason Red from timber Ninja. You've been in 501 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: the timber being in ninja lately out in North Carolina, right, Yeah, 502 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: North Carolina. And I've been a trip to Illinoise for 503 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: four or five days, the scouting slash hunting trip. Nice man, So, uh, 504 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: you do some pretty cool stuff. This is kind of 505 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: what UM originally calls you to create a super lightweight stick. 506 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: But you spent a lot of time hunting deer really 507 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: deep in kind of mountainous country which people don't think 508 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: of maybe when they think of a coastal um area 509 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: like that out of east. But there's some pretty pretty 510 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: crazy hills. Um, what have you been seeing in the 511 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: hills lately and and how the deer kind of moving 512 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: around and reacting to mc coole fronts and what's going 513 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: on right now? Well, I mean I live in a 514 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: very low deer instity area, so I mean, you know, 515 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: we have one one of two deer first square miles. 516 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: So activity this year has have been about normal. I mean, 517 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: I've been focused on two target bucks this year, and 518 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: but we have had some really unseasonally cool weather, but 519 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: we also have had a really big mass crop. This 520 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: year's severer are pretty spread out. They don't have to 521 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: move very far, but been seeing fairly good movement for 522 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: this time of year, and uh, you know, getting closer 523 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: and closer to one of my targets here, I feel, 524 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, you know how you get that gut feeling 525 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: you just know you're getting there. And uh, you know, 526 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: with this weather that we have and being mid you know, 527 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: coming in to mid October, it's looking pretty positive. How 528 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: are you How have you been hunting that deer? Are 529 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: you hunting him based off of like movement patterns to 530 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: and from oaks or what are you looking at? Yeah, well, 531 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: he he traditionally I've been hunting for a few years. 532 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: He traditionally travels. He's a home range beer in this area, 533 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: so he likes that you stay inside on this big 534 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: long ridge and you know, he's a couple of miles back, 535 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: and uh so I've been I know where his primary 536 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: that is, which is private unfortunately, so I'm trying to 537 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: intersect him there. And he runs down the ridge and 538 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: comes off a finger ridge and hit some public private 539 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: land aggs. So I've been trying to get as close 540 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: as I can to his primary bed. Obviously I'm kind 541 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: of restricted there, but honestly, it's trying to cut him 542 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: off in between right now. So we've actually spoken with 543 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: a guy recently who seem to think green food sources 544 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: were pretty key when it comes to you know, private 545 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: land agg. Is that theag that he's uh inhabiting right 546 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: now or is he more on like corn or grain 547 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: type stuff. We don't have much corn, so yeah, it's 548 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: all green pasture ground that he's on, you know. And 549 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm a proponent, like you know, if we have a 550 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: really big mass crop the year and they can't just 551 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: live off eight forms like they need that greene to 552 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: balance off the diet. So that's why I've been kind 553 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: of honed in on him where I am right now. 554 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: But you know, he's laid some some of his primary 555 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: scrapes that he normally does. I mean, our deer don't. 556 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: There's not as much competition, so they don't leave as 557 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: much sign as you know, some of the others. So 558 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: but he kind of comes back to his home range 559 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: and and you know, the interesting thing is, like I 560 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: was talking about this weekend about this, is you can 561 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: really instigate a buck here by this open up a 562 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: mock scrape and his his home range. He will not 563 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: excelent time I can get. I can get a mature 564 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: buck that I'm after if I know it's home range. 565 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: But I'll open up, you know, march straight myself. Within 566 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: a couple of days, he'll be in there. Man. I 567 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: do love mock scrapes. It's just it gives me hype 568 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: just knowing that I can do something like that to 569 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: kind of manipulate dear, and as uh, you know, one 570 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: thing that's kind of synonymous across the country right now 571 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: is the moon face. Right Like, people have different conditions 572 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: all over the place, and I know a lot of 573 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: guys put a lot of different weight on moon. Right now, 574 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: we just are pretty much right on a full moon, 575 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: and it's gonna start waning as the next week goes on. 576 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: Do you think about moon much at least in October 577 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to dear movement, I'm not as go 578 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: on moon phases. I am moon position, okay, I do. 579 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: I do like noon position and like you know, you 580 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: had the mooner eyes where it's been right there close 581 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: to you know, with an hour dark, it's usually pretty 582 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: promote um. And this morning, like I just the only 583 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: thing I can count the day was a morning punt. 584 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: So I just you know, you can't kill them if 585 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: you're not after them. So I was in there, but 586 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: but coming out out of that, I really like that time. 587 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, you know, into this week, next week 588 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: started looking pretty good, guys, you man, so let's let's 589 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: talk about the next week here, alright. So, like you 590 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: were saying, there's some cool funds starting to move across 591 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: the country. You know, moon's kind of waning a little bit, 592 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: uh de, You're starting to get a little more ruddy, 593 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: and you know for for some of North Carolina stuff 594 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: that you've been hunting, let's just kind of focus on that. Um, 595 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: what do you predict the buck movement to be like 596 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: over the next week on the scale from one to ten, 597 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: I think from one tin for this time of year, 598 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: we should be somewhere around the eight because like next week, 599 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: I just looked at the well or you know, if 600 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: we were talking, and we're supposed to get down in 601 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: the high twenties next week, which is unseasonally cool. Yeah, 602 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: so we're having lows there and you know, I don't 603 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: run a lot of cell cameras, but I gotta had 604 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: buddies that do around here. And the buck movement just 605 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: continues to increase. So I think it's looking pretty good 606 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: for next week. Man, that killer cole Front's headed this 607 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: way is gonna definitely rock some bucks worlds and have 608 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: a lot of hunters in the woods. Man, it's exciting 609 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: time of year, Jason. We really appreciate the update, dude. 610 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: And uh, I hope you have some success out there, man, 611 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: thank you. Alright. We've got Jake Hoefer from Exodus. He 612 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: is up in Illinois. He does a bunch of hunting 613 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: up there. Shoots really old bucks. Sometimes they're big, sometimes 614 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: they're kind of medium, but they're always old. Man, not much, 615 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: not much excited to be on here, and I appreciate 616 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: that intro um. Sometimes everyone drags like, oh, I'd rather 617 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: shoot an old deer over a big deer. You know, 618 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: I'd rather shoot a big deer this point. I don't care. Yeah, 619 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: that's all man. It's like, I really do like shooting 620 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: old deer. But I've shot a bunch of them, and 621 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: sometimes they tend to be like, you know, and all 622 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: the people around you are shooting like one sixties and 623 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: you're like, hey, he's old. Don't forget about me over here, 624 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, And that's funny, funny and so true. So 625 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: how has the last you know, a couple of days 626 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: of hunting here in Illinois been for you a lot better? 627 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: Because we had a really good cold front here rolling Friday, 628 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: and so on a Friday morning, uh, kind of tight 629 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: to betting on a mock scrape on a ridge with 630 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: a lot of oaks, and I saw six bucks that morning, 631 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: a lot of sparring, a lot of rubs, um, and 632 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: it was just kind of it's great to feel the 633 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: would to be alive with you're doing cool things. So 634 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: that was really good. And then I actually have a 635 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: couple of buddies, Um, one gentleman shot a really nice 636 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: buck Friday evening on green food source. And then I 637 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: had a buddy missing giant Saturday on a green food 638 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: source as well. So it's uh, it was it was 639 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: good if you're in the right location, you had a 640 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: buck that you're chasing. Um, it was a really good opportunity. 641 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: You make a point about the green food sources. You 642 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: talked about oaks, but um, can you talk about what 643 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: the green food source is and why that's important right now? Yeah? 644 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: So it really it seemed like Clover was the king here. 645 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: I know, um, personally, some some more younger bucks for hitting, 646 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, the tops of Braska's but clover definitely seemed 647 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: to be the powerful food food source. And then in 648 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: particular this one form that I'm familiar with, the gentleman 649 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: that missed a really big beer. They came in ate 650 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: the clover um kind of staged up in there, and 651 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: then they headed onto a cut cornfield. So that seemed 652 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: to be the perfect recipe. Is they eat takecorns all day. 653 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: They want a little bit of moisture content in the evening. Yeah, 654 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't blame them. I would not be very happy 655 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: about eating necks all day. Feel like you just got 656 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: a mouth of meal man. Right, So when knowing you, 657 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: I know that scrapes are on your mind, especially in 658 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: October with these cold friends rolling through, Um, when do 659 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: you start to shift that focus and do you think 660 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: that that's something that's coming soon? It's definitely coming soon. 661 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: Um yeah. So I mean a lot of these new 662 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: bucks are starting to show up on some of these farms. 663 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: And then looking into the future here of a really 664 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: good cold front coming through next weekend like Sunday is 665 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: kind of when it hits, I'll definitely be posted up 666 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: scrapes here in the next seven eight nine days. I 667 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: think right now it's a really good idea to get 668 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: an inventory on what bucks are kind of frequently frequently 669 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: a scrape and kind of try to line up an 670 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: opportunity with the cold front rolling in. And last year 671 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: the six seventeen eighteen was actually really good for bucks 672 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: hitting scrapes. It's always it's always seems to be in 673 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: coordination into a cold front, but that seems to be 674 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: one of the first opportunities if you don't have a 675 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: buff living right on you, it's when they start to 676 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: venture out a little bit and you still have a 677 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: legitimate crack at them, um, and they feel just a 678 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: little less random to the time being. So with that 679 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: coming up, scaling one to ten, looking at weather moon, 680 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: if you do that kind of thing, whatever, you look 681 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: at all the variables and what you saw last year 682 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: and everything, how how would you rank this next week 683 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: in your mind the potential of shooting a shooting a 684 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: nice buck one to ten. Man, it's it's up there. 685 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: I'd say, gosh, eight point two. I mean it's gonna 686 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: be it's gonna be really good. Decimals. Welcome to the 687 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: decimal club first time. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, no rookie scores here, 688 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: so I would I would say, you know, it's gonna 689 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: be one of the best fronts of the year, I 690 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: really do think. So. I hopefully we'll get another front 691 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: closer to the end of October, which will be fantastic, 692 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: and then, um, you know, obviously that first really good 693 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: front in November is gonna be awesome too. But I 694 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: mean this is gonna be a top three or four 695 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: front in my opinion. Man, that's exciting. Wow. Okay, so 696 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: now I'm like looking at my calendar to reorganize things. Man. God, leave, 697 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: that's wild. That's the time, Jake. Last time I listened 698 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: to you about a cold front in October, I shot 699 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: a really big eight point man. So I'm gonna listen again. 700 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, stay tuned. I think you guys are 701 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: gonna find you because I can find it. Dear killing them. 702 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: That's still been pretty hard for me. Whatever, dude, you're 703 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: a killer. You're a killer, humble killer. Man. Yeah. Well, 704 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: we appreciate the good info, Jake, Thanks man, and I 705 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: hope you do get after that big buck this week. 706 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thanks guys. The October lull can be a 707 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: little spooky, but if you have the right information, you'll 708 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: be able to throw it down on a big buck. 709 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: So if you are interested in big bucks and you 710 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: might want to watch some things to either get you 711 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: hip or to help you learn how to get closer 712 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: or to stay more comfortable you're in the woods, you 713 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: should check out the Oklahoma public land buck video that 714 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: The Element has on its channel. There's also a piece 715 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: on layering that our friend Mark Kenyon put out to 716 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: help you stay warm while you're out there chasing those 717 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: big dogs. And then Tony has a pretty cool Foundations 718 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: podcast that's all about hunting to kill as opposed to 719 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: hunting to just hunts. So be sure and check that 720 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: stuff out. Keep it fresh, This has been rough. Fresh