WEBVTT - The Golden Rules with Gary Levingston 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.680 All right, everybody, Hey, it's I do Part two the podcast. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:18.120 Or if you didn't get love right the first time, 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:19.560 that's okay, so we're here to help you get it. 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:20.680 Right the next time around. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.760 I am one of your celebrity mentors, Bob Guiney and 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.200 you know from the Bachelor of course, and my podcast 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:31.040 I co host with Trista Sutter nay Wren almost famous ogs, 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:33.880 the favorite one on your dial find out everywhere you 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.159 can find a podcast. And today I am enjoyed by 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.559 return cast that I know, I love and I know 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.800 you know and you love from the Golden Bacherette and 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:42.760 the season now of Bachelor in Paradise, which we're going 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.680 to talk about today, my man Gary Livingston. 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.960 Gary, Hey, what's going on? Bob? 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.000 One of my fastest friends from this whole franchise. You 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.040 know that real great to see you, really, Oh, I 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:53.440 love it. 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.120 I'm humbled, I'm honored, thank you. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.920 You're very welcome with you now. You know, I think 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:00.800 the first time we got to hand out was in 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.840 at the golf tournament and Pubble Beach, and man, we 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:08.759 just hit it off right away. You were so much fun, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.360 such an easy guy to talk to. I also loved 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.000 how you sort of wrangled all the Goldens right the 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.240 mansion men. You were you were kind of the voice 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.240 of reason for a lot of those guys, I think, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.119 but also a nice sounding board, like you all get 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.280 along so great. It really does remind me. And I 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.640 told Joan this as well. Of course, the beautiful Joe 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.080 and the Bats are atte, but I told the Golden Bachelorette, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:31.680 I told her that it reminded me so much of 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.560 Trista's season. You know, Trista, I feel like, really set 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.240 the bar so high for this whole franchise, and how 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.120 she did it was encouraging us to be friends, like 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.319 the guys were friends. And granted that was a lot 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.480 of us behind the scenes too, Like I just refused, 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.679 I can't not be friends with everyone. It breaks my 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:49.080 I can't do it. And so I remember being on 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.520 the show and thinking, you know, well, there's I'm not 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.160 competing with these guys, like she's gonna like who she likes. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.240 These guys are going to be my buddies. And to 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.040 this day, you know, I'm still great friends with Ryan. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.960 Of course with Charlie Maher, who was the runner up 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.320 for just a season. All the final four guys. We're 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.600 all good buddies, you know, but I was actually number 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.600 five or six on that show. Jamie blythe who we've 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.200 had on the show. I mean, just so many guys, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:12.720 and I feel like you guys kind of had that 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.200 same type of season your your crew still gets together, I. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.400 Mean, it's night. Was that a conscious decision or is 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:19.440 this just happened with age? 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.640 It just I think I don't know, I don't know 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.680 if it's age or whatever. I think it was just 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:28.920 a combination of things where we all just felt safe 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.920 with each other because we were isolated, right, But it 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.919 took us back to a day and time when we 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.840 were growing up when we didn't have technology. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.239 Right, yeah, because you can't have fault to communicate. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.080 Yeah, And as a result of that, I think we 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.760 just all felt as though once we got that first rose, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.839 that was the crew. Yeah. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.640 The mansion men men. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.400 Yeah, it was like the exclusive club. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.480 You all moved into the mansion together, all moved in together, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.400 and that's was like, hey, we're well you boys, right, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:02.040 We're all you got. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.079 That's it it was. It was. It was a big 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:05.840 time romancing connection totally. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.360 Well you could always tell I think That's why the 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.920 show was such a treat. I've said it often, but 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:14.200 I was expecting the Bachelor franchise to kind of not 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.320 handle that the way that they did, right. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.480 So my concern and I had concerns about the season 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:20.840 of Paradise. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.640 We're going to talk about that too, but my concern 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.120 about the way that they were going to cast that 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.160 show was, you know, oh, we want the drama, so 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.440 we're going to have you know. I actually it started 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.919 with Gary season right with so they're like the cast 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.080 age appropriate women, just like on Jones season they cast 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.080 age appropriate men. Yes, And I loved that because my 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.280 fear was that they were gonna kind of do what 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.000 Paradise is doing now right where they bring in the 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:44.560 youngies and the oldies and they mix it up and 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.160 it's like, well, what's going to happen and everyone's going 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.160 to look weird and gross. And I think that that 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.040 hasn't happened, which I'm excited about. But it was also 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.880 one of those things where it would have it would 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:58.760 have bred competition, it would have bred angst and tension 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.360 that didn't need to be there. And and that's why 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.040 I think the Golden franchise is taken off the way 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:02.360 it has. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.440 You know, what's an interesting points you make, because I 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:10.960 don't think the executive producers anticipated what the outcome was, 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:15.960 and as it was happening, they were, I think surprised 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.520 at the twist and turn of where we took the 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:23.599 show and then where they let it go as a 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.360 result of what we brought. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.720 To the camaraderie was nice, yes, yes, yes, And it 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.400 wasn't like there needed to be controversy, that we didn't 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.440 need any angst or. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:40.080 Any any of that. Now, it was us being close, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:42.320 which made it even more special. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.640 So yeah, I say it was a flashback for me. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.679 I mean it was like watching trist a season. Trist 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.640 and I were talking about this earlier today. Because of course, 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:50.960 real quick, we are coming to you from the summerhouse 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.920 here and like Tahoe, the VRBO summer House, So procrastinators rejoice. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.240 The early bird is not the only one who gets 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.920 the worm. VRBO offers last minute deals for private vacation rentals, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.640 of course, and one of the things that I love. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.720 We are in a sweet place, the river house, it is. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.719 We are also in a really cool little community here 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.640 in Lake Tahoe. And if people haven't ever been here 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.280 to visit before. You got to make sure you'd get 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.440 here because it is so cool. But Trista and Ryan 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.880 are here, of course, who I still think are the 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.320 king and Queen of the franchise, right, I think I'm like, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.840 I'm like the jack right, I'm like them. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.760 Whatever it is, the next dude, you know, just from 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:31.360 age alone. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.800 But but it's so nice to be here with them 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.839 because we started this whole journey together twenty two years ago, 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.919 and we were really great friends on Trista's season and 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.239 so and I tried to encourage that in my season 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.040 of The Bachelor, which came shortly thereafter, and I think 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.760 I got us there, you know, but it was it 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.520 was harder to do at that time because you didn't 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.320 have the history of the show to look back on. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.680 And I think now watching how the Goldens handle it, 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.159 like I said, I absolutely love that. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.480 So great job. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.880 I think has reflected well on all of you, and 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.240 it's why I think in large part, you guys have 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:09.480 kind of continued on in that Bachelor zeitgeist. Right, you 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.039 guys have kind of really kind of moved in and 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.360 it's like, you know, the iHeart family loves the Goldens 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.760 so much. I mean, we aren't doing events without a 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.360 bunch of Goldens because we love it. I think we 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.479 love the levity that it brings to these situations. We 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:22.239 love the fun. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:24.040 You know. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.400 It's it's also fun to, you know, get a bunch 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:28.880 of young people who don't know what the hell they're 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.240 talking about to talk to and then you can kind of, you. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.080 Know, just make fun of them and enjoy yourself in 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:33.520 that regard. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.080 But I think it's more fun to have some people 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:37.560 that you can connect with on a different level. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:38.920 And I really enjoy that with you guys. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:43.360 Yeah, yeah, thanks man, Yeah, it's pretty special. In fact, 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.799 it's been a year. Yeah. And so our guys had 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.480 an annual trip that we all put together on our 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.200 own and all the boys went to Vegas and it 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.480 was something this was Gonzo in Vegas, Gonzo in Vegas. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.400 I wasn't there. I was there because I was on 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:00.320 a whole nother trip. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.520 I would see Keith and Vegas would be I was on. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.599 A whole nother trip. But the story, you know, what 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.120 happens in Vegas stays there. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.560 Of course, of course, so I would think Keith would 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.320 need someone to rain him in like I'd almost hire 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.240 like a rodeo clown to follow him around just to 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.240 like keep things from going wrong, because he's a machine, 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:20.280 that good man. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.160 He is a seen but you know he just likes 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.640 to have a great time. And that's the beauty of 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.520 that that man in his personality. Man, you just you 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.080 love having him around. Yeah, can. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.760 My wife loves him so much, and she's always like, 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:38.680 what's it like looking at yourself in twenty years. I'm like, well, 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.040 if Keith were seventy four, that would be great. I 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.240 think Keith sixty, that's me in six years, and I 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.440 love it. So all right, let's talk about this. So 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.280 we're in Tahell right now for a pick a ball event. 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:55.000 I am not a big pickleball player until today. You 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.160 roll out with a fantastic outfit. You got your own 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.160 pickleball paddle. You come up there. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.440 I mean you had gloves, you had gobbles, you had 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.480 like a neck roll. I'm like, what's that. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.720 You're like, Oh, I know when I hit that ball, man, 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:09.480 I'm torquing that thing. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.160 When I serve. I don't want my my neck to. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.960 Go side with you and Kelly ben Simone, who I love, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:21.160 get out, just start crushing it. I think you're a 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.360 bronze medalist, and then you took third today. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.800 We came home with some iron. You came. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.120 Well, let's show this. This is the iron we came 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.360 home with you. It's basically a glorified participation trophy. And 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.320 I believe it's plastic, but you It drinks the same. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:43.160 And espresso here, but it's not going to weigh down 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:44.200 your bag like the iron. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.400 But so I think the plastics better for us to 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.040 get through customs and and such. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.280 But we're here. We're here here for the pickle ball event. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.080 This has been so great and I think have you 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:58.560 ever thought of pickleball as a way to meet people, Like, hey, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.960 let's get a little thing going and little, you know, 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.680 pinching giggle out there on the pickleball. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.160 Of course, it's funny you should mention that meeting people 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:11.160 in Palm Desert. We play round robin Monday, Wednesday Friday 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:12.800 four hours. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.120 Where everyone throws in a paddle and it's like, okay, 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:16.959 this is this is your paddle bill here. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:24.439 Not quite like that, but not quite like that, but 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.920 not quite like that, not quite like that. But it's 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.600 it's kind of cool because it is the older folks 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.920 that are out there playing. We had some young folks 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:38.480 that come in and we show them a lesson or 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.240 two about what the game is all about. I don't 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.280 play Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I go usually on a Wednesday. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.080 But it's kind of cool to go out and have 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.280 that camaraderie with everyone. He yeah, and a connection that 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.400 says we can still go and do. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.760 This right, we can still do something athletic and we're 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:56.400 having fun. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.880 I have to say this, so I have fun. Have 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.079 you seen the new show Stick with Owen Wilson. 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:01.600 I have not. 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.760 Oh my guys, anyone's seen it easton Monday. It's so good. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.680 So it's on HBO or no, it's on Apple TV. Okay, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.640 you need to watch it because it's actually it's a 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:11.640 really good show and it's like. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.040 He's but it's not standard Owen Wilson fair right. But 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.240 in it they have this pickleball thing that goes down. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.480 And I was watching it trying to prep myself for 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.920 this weekend because there's not many things out there that 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.720 you can find that will allow you to prep for 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.959 pickleball competitions, you know, Canyon, and I decided, I'm like, 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.600 let's get a couple of fights for no reason. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:30.640 That's like I'm gonna yell at you. You yell at me, 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:31.600 I'm like, you shout at it. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.679 She's like I'm a left day. I'm like, okay, let's 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.160 just let's just fake some fights so we're ready for 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.760 the court. Because but she's really good and she's very 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:38.800 aggressive as a lefty. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.040 You know what, The ball takes a whole another, a 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.280 different flight, different flights as we were trying to play 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.720 that that's why you Yes, that's how we shut you down. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.439 That's how the only way to shut you down. Having 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.560 Gary out there, he really did. Gary was scary on 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.880 the court. But yeah, no, it was very fun. But 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.520 I think pickleball could be a really cool way. Like 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.200 if you meet someone and you know that they're you know, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.320 uh fit, Yes, right, but they don't have to be 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.240 that fit. I mean, I'm out of shape. I was 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:04.760 out there running around like a crazy person. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.160 The beauty is that the court's smaller than a tennis court. Yeah, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.840 you're playing with four people on the court. It's a 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.360 whiffle ball. It's not really like anything that's come out 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:15.360 it with too much heat. Yeah. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.760 No, And so though Trista did Jack went into canyon today, 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:19.720 which I thought was really. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.000 You can't get some heat on the ball. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.880 Yeah, that was pretty nice. Definitely, Trista knew what she 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.040 was doing when she wanted the stageous event. Little did 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:26.840 we know she did played the game a lot. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.720 She was unbelievable. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:29.640 You think she hustled us. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.679 I think she may have been like a shark guy. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.000 She knew there was an iron a some trophy on 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:34.520 the place. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.880 There was a big trophy on the line. Yeah, and 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:37.680 she took it home. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.920 Well, I will say that spoiler alert. Gary and Kelly 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.840 came in third. Yes, the Guinea family came in second. Yes, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:50.560 and Trista and Ryan Sutter nay Wren ended up bringing 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:51.240 home the bacon. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:53.599 And uh, I don't know. I'm just gonna say it 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:54.040 out loud. 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.280 Uh If I put together a blackjack tournament for the 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.800 next one and I win the black jack tournament, shame 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.400 on me. Okay, I'm just saying I think Trista stacked 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.760 the deck in her favor. She knew She's the only 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:05.520 one that knew the roles. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:06.840 We're in the middle of playing. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.679 It's three three, and she's like, guys, are stef Yi, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.960 and I love Tristan more than the life, so I 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.640 mean this is coming from a place of love. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:15.040 That's the kitchen. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:16.880 Okay, you don't go in the kitchen. You can't step 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.280 in the kitchen, but don't hit hit the ball into 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.240 the kitchen. You've done it twice and I've let it go. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.679 So I'm just going to tell you for the next time, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.280 I might have to score that against you. All of 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:25.200 a sudden, she's in my head. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:25.400 Man. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:26.599 Now I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm like, 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.040 why the hell is the kitchen now? I got to 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:30.079 identify a kitchen. I don't see a stove. I don't 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:33.320 see a refrigerator. Okay, so let's talk about Bachelor in Paradise, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.240 because here was my concern about this, Okay. I was 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.000 terrified that my goldens were going to be used by 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:45.760 producers for horrible, horrible mischief. And I was like, this 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.280 is not right. I don't think I like this idea. Actually, 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:49.880 at first I love the idea until someone brought it 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:50.839 up to me. Then it was in my head like 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.600 a crazy man. First call, I made Gonzo Gonzo, don't 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.679 take de bait. I don't care what anybody says, if 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:57.920 they're like, hey, you should go over and talk to 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.439 a little Debbie over there in the corner while she's 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.000 crying in the hot stuff, don't do it. Don't take 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.079 her a cocktail and be like, how you doing, little Debbie. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:04.920 Let's not do that. 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.520 Needless to say, I didn't have to worry about that, 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.839 right because my guys handled themselves. But I think it's 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.880 been pretty interesting on this season of Paradise. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.160 It's the very first season. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.720 Well, there's a lot of first's actually, whole new production, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.120 whole new look. It kind of looks a lot of 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.480 people have been saying a lot more like love ya. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:26.360 Producers, whole things, different tones, different attitudes, different. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.280 Cinematography, the cameras they're using. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.120 Yes, kind of neat, fabulous. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.360 Wells and Hannah are playing a bigger role in the show, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.719 which Hannah I haven't seen her say too much yet. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.520 The handa is I'm sure going to have a bigger 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.440 role as this thing goes on. Yes, But I think 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.880 it's kind of neat because when they came to you 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.240 and said, you know, hey, would you be interested in 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.680 coming to Paris? Did they mention that it was going 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:53.040 to be like the standard paradise with the Goldens or 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.760 when they approached you, what did they disclose to you? 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.280 So it was disclosed that we'd like you to join 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.720 us in Costa Rica going paradise, because well, I don't 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.000 even think we knew it was going to be in 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:06.079 Coastrie at that point. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.079 And did you know other Goldens were coming or did 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:08.520 you think. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.760 I No one had been announced. Yeah, and they didn't 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.800 allow Leslie or I to know even if they had 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:21.120 someone in mind. But then the guy started talking and 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.120 we ultimately said, hey, what do you think I'm thinking 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:29.960 about this? I'm thinking about what and so we started talking. Yeah, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.120 and then ultimately well you can see now on the 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:37.960 show who's come. Yeah, but it was it was a surprise, 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.920 I think to all of us said it was going 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:41.880 to be like it is. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.600 Yeah, Well, well let's let's for anyone who might be 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.040 like me. I've I've sort of stacked the deck. I've 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.240 watched the first episode, the first two episodes, now I have 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.360 not I have not watched a second too. So the 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:57.400 Goldens arrive in episode four and Gary arrives on his 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.280 own with a little bit more like it was almost 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.040 like a big time wrestling entrance, like smoke, like all 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.480 sorts of stuff going on, Like you had the theme song? 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.440 What was your walk up song? And you come out 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.480 of nowhere? Well, the other goals are already there and 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.320 all of a sudden you come out. How is that 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:12.440 suggested to you? 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.360 And how did that the whole thing play out? 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:19.720 Well? Okay, So I came a day after everyone else 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.360 and I was still in seclusion. Yeah, so I was 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.840 going crazy. It's like, guys, you got to get me 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.760 out of here. Yeah. Everyone knows I'm going to be 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.080 on the show, right, but you can't keep me secluded 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.520 like this? So is it okay? If I go to 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:32.920 the pool? 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.120 Is fomo? Are you getting? Like? But like, what do 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:37.520 you feel? Are you feeling left out? 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.240 I feel like I'm starting to feel like things are 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:41.880 happening and I'm not there to enjoy it. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.320 Yeah, And so were nervous at all. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.040 I was starting to get a little anxious, not nervous, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.680 just with like not knowing what to expect, right, because 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.120 my guys were already. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.400 There, right, and you knew they were already there. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.720 So they were there and they knew I was. We 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.960 just didn't know how it was gonna unfold. But then 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.200 when they said, we were making this big thing for 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.680 your entrance, Gary, and so then I started saying, okay, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.600 now let's hear it, let me hear it. And then 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.360 they started explaining to me what it was going to be, 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.400 and I go, I can do that, Yeah, I can. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.400 I think that's gonna be pretty awesome. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:23.040 That's awesome. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:24.640 And sure enough, you saw the entrance. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.000 I have only seen the engines. I haven't seen the episode. 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.720 Okay, you've got you've got something I can't tell you, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.680 but it's worth its weight in gold. That's you'll see, Bob, you'll. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.960 It's so fun because you guys are so tight, right, 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.480 and it's like, did you did you experience? Obviously you 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.960 come in, you got your friends that the Goldens who 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:43.440 you've been doing a. 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:43.960 Bunch of stuff with. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.680 Yeah, probably have met so I know you have met 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.240 some of the younger cast members on there, yes, and 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.920 uh so you got the familiarity with them, But who 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:58.440 did you create relationships with right away that were kind 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.400 of like, uh, you know, from from the the more 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.000 standard VIP experience, Like who did you kind of gravitate towards? 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:05.520 Was there anyone there that you felt like, Okay, I 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.119 like this person. I can be friends with this person, Jonathan. Yeah, 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:13.960 I had a feeling, you guys, and but Jonathan has 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.439 been on a couple of these experiences with us. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:16.439 But you haven't met him, have you. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.960 I met Jonathan at a get Reel, the get Real 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.119 party that Hulu did when they announced mel with the 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:29.800 Golden Bachelor, and I think I had met him once before. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.600 I can't really remember, but you know, he's a super guy. Yeah, 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:38.719