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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, Hey, it's I do Part two the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Or if you didn't get love right the first time,

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Speaker 1: that's okay, so we're here to help you get it.

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Speaker 2: Right the next time around.

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Speaker 1: I am one of your celebrity mentors, Bob Guiney and

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Speaker 1: you know from the Bachelor of course, and my podcast

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Speaker 1: I co host with Trista Sutter nay Wren almost famous ogs,

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Speaker 1: the favorite one on your dial find out everywhere you

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Speaker 1: can find a podcast. And today I am enjoyed by

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Speaker 1: return cast that I know, I love and I know

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Speaker 1: you know and you love from the Golden Bacherette and

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Speaker 1: the season now of Bachelor in Paradise, which we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about today, my man Gary Livingston.

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Speaker 3: Gary, Hey, what's going on? Bob?

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Speaker 1: One of my fastest friends from this whole franchise. You

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Speaker 1: know that real great to see you, really, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 3: I'm humbled, I'm honored, thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome with you now. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: the first time we got to hand out was in

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Speaker 1: at the golf tournament and Pubble Beach, and man, we

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Speaker 1: just hit it off right away. You were so much fun,

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Speaker 1: such an easy guy to talk to. I also loved

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Speaker 1: how you sort of wrangled all the Goldens right the

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Speaker 1: mansion men. You were you were kind of the voice

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Speaker 1: of reason for a lot of those guys, I think,

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Speaker 1: but also a nice sounding board, like you all get

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Speaker 1: along so great. It really does remind me. And I

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Speaker 1: told Joan this as well. Of course, the beautiful Joe

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Speaker 1: and the Bats are atte, but I told the Golden Bachelorette,

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Speaker 1: I told her that it reminded me so much of

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Speaker 1: Trista's season. You know, Trista, I feel like, really set

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Speaker 1: the bar so high for this whole franchise, and how

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Speaker 1: she did it was encouraging us to be friends, like

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Speaker 1: the guys were friends. And granted that was a lot

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Speaker 1: of us behind the scenes too, Like I just refused,

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Speaker 1: I can't not be friends with everyone. It breaks my

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Speaker 1: I can't do it. And so I remember being on

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Speaker 1: the show and thinking, you know, well, there's I'm not

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Speaker 1: competing with these guys, like she's gonna like who she likes.

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Speaker 1: These guys are going to be my buddies. And to

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Speaker 1: this day, you know, I'm still great friends with Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Of course with Charlie Maher, who was the runner up

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Speaker 1: all good buddies, you know, but I was actually number

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Speaker 1: five or six on that show. Jamie blythe who we've

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Speaker 1: and I feel like you guys kind of had that

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Speaker 1: same type of season your your crew still gets together, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, it's night. Was that a conscious decision or is

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Speaker 2: this just happened with age?

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Speaker 3: It just I think I don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it's age or whatever. I think it was just

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Speaker 3: were growing up when we didn't have technology.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, because you can't have fault to communicate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And as a result of that, I think we

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Speaker 3: just all felt as though once we got that first rose,

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Speaker 2: The mansion men men.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like the exclusive club.

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Speaker 2: You all moved into the mansion together, all moved in together,

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Speaker 2: and that's was like, hey, we're well you boys, right,

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Speaker 3: That's it it was. It was. It was a big

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Speaker 1: Well you could always tell I think That's why the

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Speaker 1: I was expecting the Bachelor franchise to kind of not

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Speaker 2: So my concern and I had concerns about the season

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Speaker 2: of Paradise.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that too, but my concern

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Speaker 2: To the camaraderie was nice, yes, yes, yes, And it

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Speaker 3: Any any of that. Now, it was us being close,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I say it was a flashback for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was like watching trist a season. Trist

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Speaker 1: and I were talking about this earlier today. Because of course,

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Speaker 1: real quick, we are coming to you from the summerhouse

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Speaker 1: here and like Tahoe, the VRBO summer House, So procrastinators rejoice.

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Speaker 1: the worm. VRBO offers last minute deals for private vacation rentals,

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Speaker 1: of course, and one of the things that I love.

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Speaker 1: We are in a sweet place, the river house, it is.

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Speaker 1: We are also in a really cool little community here

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Speaker 1: here because it is so cool. But Trista and Ryan

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Speaker 2: Whatever it is, the next dude, you know, just from

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Speaker 1: But but it's so nice to be here with them

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Speaker 1: And I think now watching how the Goldens handle it,

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Speaker 1: I think has reflected well on all of you, and

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Speaker 1: it's why I think in large part, you guys have

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Speaker 1: love the levity that it brings to these situations. We

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's also fun to, you know, get a bunch

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Speaker 2: Know, just make fun of them and enjoy yourself in

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Speaker 1: But I think it's more fun to have some people

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Speaker 2: And I really enjoy that with you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thanks man, Yeah, it's pretty special. In fact,

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Speaker 3: it's been a year. Yeah. And so our guys had

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Speaker 3: I wasn't there. I was there because I was on

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Speaker 2: I would see Keith and Vegas would be I was on.

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Speaker 3: A whole nother trip. But the story, you know, what

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course, so I would think Keith would

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Speaker 3: He is a seen but you know he just likes

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Speaker 1: My wife loves him so much, and she's always like,

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Speaker 1: if Keith were seventy four, that would be great. I

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Speaker 1: love it. So all right, let's talk about this. So

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Speaker 1: we're in Tahell right now for a pick a ball event.

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Speaker 1: I am not a big pickleball player until today. You

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Speaker 1: roll out with a fantastic outfit. You got your own

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Speaker 2: I mean you had gloves, you had gobbles, you had

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Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, I know when I hit that ball, man,

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Speaker 2: When I serve. I don't want my my neck to.

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Speaker 1: Go side with you and Kelly ben Simone, who I love,

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Speaker 1: get out, just start crushing it. I think you're a

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Speaker 3: We came home with some iron. You came.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's show this. This is the iron we came

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Speaker 1: home with you. It's basically a glorified participation trophy. And

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Speaker 1: I believe it's plastic, but you It drinks the same.

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Speaker 2: And espresso here, but it's not going to weigh down

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Speaker 1: But so I think the plastics better for us to

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Speaker 2: But we're here. We're here here for the pickle ball event.

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Speaker 1: This has been so great and I think have you

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Speaker 1: ever thought of pickleball as a way to meet people, Like, hey,

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Speaker 3: Of course, it's funny you should mention that meeting people

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Speaker 3: in Palm Desert. We play round robin Monday, Wednesday Friday

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Speaker 1: Where everyone throws in a paddle and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: Not quite like that, but not quite like that, but

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Speaker 3: not quite like that, not quite like that. But it's

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Speaker 3: it's kind of cool because it is the older folks

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Speaker 3: But it's kind of cool to go out and have

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Speaker 2: This right, we can still do something athletic and we're

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Speaker 1: I have to say this, so I have fun. Have

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Speaker 3: You know what, The ball takes a whole another, a

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Speaker 3: The beauty is that the court's smaller than a tennis court. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: No, And so though Trista did Jack went into canyon today,

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Speaker 3: She was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I think she may have been like a shark guy.

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Speaker 2: She knew there was an iron a some trophy on

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Speaker 3: There was a big trophy on the line. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say that spoiler alert. Gary and Kelly

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Speaker 2: And uh, I don't know. I'm just gonna say it

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Speaker 1: Uh If I put together a blackjack tournament for the

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Speaker 2: We're in the middle of playing.

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Speaker 1: It's three three, and she's like, guys, are stef Yi,

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Speaker 2: That's the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you don't go in the kitchen. You can't step

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Speaker 1: So I'm just going to tell you for the next time,

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Speaker 1: I might have to score that against you. All of

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: identify a kitchen. I don't see a stove. I don't

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Speaker 1: see a refrigerator. Okay, so let's talk about Bachelor in Paradise,

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Speaker 1: because here was my concern about this, Okay. I was

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Speaker 1: terrified that my goldens were going to be used by

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Speaker 2: Let's not do that.

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Speaker 1: Needless to say, I didn't have to worry about that,

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Speaker 2: It's the very first season.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of first's actually, whole new production,

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Speaker 1: people have been saying a lot more like love ya.

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Speaker 2: Producers, whole things, different tones, different attitudes, different.

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Speaker 3: Cinematography, the cameras they're using.

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Speaker 2: Yes, kind of neat, fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Wells and Hannah are playing a bigger role in the show,

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Speaker 1: The handa is I'm sure going to have a bigger

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Speaker 1: it's kind of neat because when they came to you

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Speaker 3: So it was disclosed that we'd like you to join

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Speaker 2: And did you know other Goldens were coming or did

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Speaker 3: I No one had been announced. Yeah, and they didn't

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Speaker 3: we ultimately said, hey, what do you think I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: I think to all of us said it was going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, well let's let's for anyone who might be

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Speaker 1: like a big time wrestling entrance, like smoke, like all

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Speaker 1: What was your walk up song? And you come out

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Speaker 2: And how did that the whole thing play out?

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Speaker 3: Well? Okay, So I came a day after everyone else

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Speaker 3: going crazy. It's like, guys, you got to get me

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Speaker 3: out of here. Yeah. Everyone knows I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: on the show, right, but you can't keep me secluded

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Speaker 3: like this? So is it okay? If I go to

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Speaker 2: Is fomo? Are you getting? Like? But like, what do

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm starting to feel like things are

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Speaker 3: I was starting to get a little anxious, not nervous,

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Speaker 3: just with like not knowing what to expect, right, because

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Speaker 2: There, right, and you knew they were already there.

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Speaker 3: So they were there and they knew I was. We

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Speaker 3: when they said, we were making this big thing for

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Speaker 3: your entrance, Gary, and so then I started saying, okay,

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Speaker 3: now let's hear it, let me hear it. And then

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Speaker 3: and I go, I can do that, Yeah, I can.

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Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be pretty awesome.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: And sure enough, you saw the entrance.

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Speaker 2: I have only seen the engines. I haven't seen the episode.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you've got you've got something I can't tell you,

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Speaker 3: but it's worth its weight in gold. That's you'll see, Bob, you'll.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun because you guys are so tight, right,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, did you did you experience? Obviously you

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Speaker 1: come in, you got your friends that the Goldens who

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Speaker 1: you've been doing a.

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Speaker 2: Bunch of stuff with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably have met so I know you have met

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Speaker 1: uh so you got the familiarity with them, But who

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Speaker 1: Was there anyone there that you felt like, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: I had a feeling, you guys, and but Jonathan has

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Speaker 2: But you haven't met him, have you.

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Speaker 3: I met Jonathan at a get Reel, the get Real

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Speaker 3: I can't really remember, but you know, he's a super guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, Jonathan seemed to warm up to a couple of Goldens,

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Speaker 3: Yes, he did. But I have to throw in Dale

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Speaker 3: Andrew was another good guy, Spencer as well.

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Speaker 2: Spencer seemed intense to me up until like he seems

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Speaker 3: He really was a very gentle, giant guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, what were your thoughts on the April Jonathan moment,

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Speaker 1: Because I had.

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Speaker 2: Heard some rumors, but that was a little fiery.

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Speaker 3: It was not just fiery, it was a total shock

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Speaker 3: that took everyone by surprise. I don't think anybody knew

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Speaker 3: April was going to do that, and in particular my

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Speaker 3: good buddy Jack. It's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was so floored because he thought that there

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say. Yeah, it basically eliminated three three

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Speaker 1: That was like, I don't think it didn't seem like

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Speaker 2: Nobody. Jesse stood there with his mouth over, did you really?

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Speaker 2: Just almost seems stage? But you know what I knew

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a shocker man.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Well, thank you so much for talking to

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Speaker 2: I think very excited. I know, I know people are

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Speaker 2: loving the show this year, people are loving VIP and

439
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Speaker 2: I think I really liked oh what's oh my gosh,

440
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Speaker 2: the VIP VIP hat she had on out there, Leslie.

441
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Speaker 2: I loved your hat. Yeah, yes, yeah, that was pretty good.

442
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Speaker 2: She's a pretty good pickupball player too, all right, and

443
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Speaker 2: a great dancer? Is that right?

444
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Speaker 3: Keep watching?

445
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,920
Speaker 2: Watch and the two of you had a chance to

446
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Speaker 2: love the dance.

447
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Speaker 1: Okay, I will watch, I will watch. I take your

448
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Speaker 1: advice seriously, my friend. All right, so I want to

449
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: go to Well, there's not much that doesn't I don't

450
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: know if you know, it takes a lot to piss

451
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: me off. My luggage is pissing me off. Still not here,

452
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,160
Speaker 1: by the way, thanks Delta if you're watching it home.

453
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Speaker 1: So let's talk twenty one questions. Okay, we're gonna play

454
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Speaker 1: a little game. It's called twenty one questions. It's I

455
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Speaker 1: Do Part two. That's what the show is about.

456
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Speaker 2: You and I have both had relationships prior to.

457
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Speaker 1: Any that we may have currently. Yes, do you want

458
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Speaker 1: to talk about any that you have currently? Anything you

459
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: want to share?

460
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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody knows I got Canyon, right, so I

461
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 2: got nothing to share.

462
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 3: Maybe let's just let's see where that goes. Let's we're going.

463
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Speaker 2: Breaking news that I Do Part two. All Right, here

464
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Speaker 2: we go. I'm gonna ask you some questions. I want

465
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Speaker 2: your opinions. I may or may not time in because

466
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Speaker 2: I want to keep this on point for I do

467
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Speaker 2: part two because that is my job is to steer

468
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Speaker 2: this ship to the exact location we needed today.

469
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Speaker 3: Take us home.

470
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Speaker 2: Here we go, baby number one. Okay, if you ask

471
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Speaker 2: a woman on a date, first date, is it ever

472
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Speaker 2: acceptable to split the bill?

473
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Speaker 3: No?

474
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Speaker 2: Agreed?

475
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Speaker 1: If a woman asks you on a first date, is

476
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Speaker 1: it ever okay to allow her to pay?

477
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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

478
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right on that.

479
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Speaker 1: I think I would still fight to act. Yeah, but

480
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Speaker 1: she asked me, Yeah, I would. I let kingyon.

481
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Speaker 2: Uh. We were when we were dating.

482
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Speaker 1: She asked me on a date, which I was like,

483
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Speaker 1: really okay, and she paid for the whole thing, and

484
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Speaker 1: I was like feeling guilt the whole night, but it

485
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Speaker 1: was it was kind of awesome. I was I'm always

486
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Speaker 1: the person that pays. Yeah, you know, like she'llowed me

487
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Speaker 1: to say, like someone, go.

488
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Speaker 2: Do you where's your wallet? She goes, She'll go, he's

489
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Speaker 2: over there, and she'll play. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting point though, because we as men men, yes,

491
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 3: and our era of where we always take care of things,

492
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Speaker 3: so it's flattering when someone else does it. It's surprising,

493
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 3: and it's also a sign of Wow, this could go someplace. Yeah,

494
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: it's not always dependent on me. This person is making

495
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Speaker 3: an effort to show me that I'm you don't always

496
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Speaker 3: have to do this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know it's so interesting. For some reason,

498
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Speaker 1: when you were saying that, it triggered something for me.

499
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Speaker 1: One of the things I always think is interesting is

500
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Speaker 1: I think I'm doing a favor when.

501
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Speaker 2: Someone says, what do you want to do tonight, and

502
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Speaker 2: I'll say, whatever you want to do? Where would you

503
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Speaker 2: like to go to for a dinner? Wherever you want

504
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Speaker 2: to go. I don't know why.

505
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Speaker 1: I think I'm being easy, right, but how flattering it

506
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: is when someone will say, hey, tonight, we're gonna go

507
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Speaker 1: to Mexican because I know that's your favorite, and then

508
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: afterwards we're gonna go play pickleball or go through some

509
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: darts or whatever. And you're like, okay, because it's so

510
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Speaker 1: neat to not have to think of what do and

511
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: it's it's really fun to have someone planned for you.

512
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: Yet and I and I've realized that maybe that's a

513
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: shortcoming for me. I don't know why this just triggered

514
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Speaker 1: that way, but I need.

515
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Speaker 2: To plant let it go. Should I let it go

516
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: let it go now? Yes, okay. Number two.

517
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Speaker 1: If a man does not finalize date plans or checking

518
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Speaker 1: ahead of a scheduled date the morning of, does this

519
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Speaker 1: mean he's busy or that he's not interested.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a tough one.

521
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: So let's set the stage.

522
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Speaker 1: You got a date set up and tonight you're gonna

523
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Speaker 1: pick her up at five, but you don't call all day,

524
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Speaker 1: you don't reach out, You're just like, hey, I'm picking

525
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Speaker 1: her up Thursday at five. Does that mean is she

526
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Speaker 1: supposed to think you're coming at five? Or is she

527
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: supposed to think this dude is ghosting me?

528
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Speaker 3: You know, if there is an interest in that relationship,

529
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Speaker 3: if you're trying to make it happen, you're gonna call before. Yeah,

530
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna call before. If you don't, then.

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just and you're like, go, I'll do

532
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: it be there right.

533
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Speaker 3: Well, then, I mean it's someone that's not important to you.

534
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Speaker 3: Out of respect, here's what's happening looking forward to Yeah, totally, totally,

535
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Speaker 3: with all due respect.

536
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. Yeah, yeah, all right.

537
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Speaker 1: How long should you be dating someone? To bring up

538
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: the topic of money, debt or credit scores?

539
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: I would think maybe if it's a serious relationship, it

540
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: should happen within the first couple three months.

541
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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and to what level does that go? Because

542
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Speaker 1: I have a funny story to share about this.

543
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: And the level you know, you got to fill that

544
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Speaker 3: one out because at my age, yeah, you don't have

545
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Speaker 3: a lot of time to say, I'm gonna let this

546
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Speaker 3: play out. You want to know sooner than later. So

547
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Speaker 3: it just it just depends. Oh my gosh, that's a

548
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 3: great question. That's a great question.

549
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Speaker 1: When I was working on these questions, I was laughing

550
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 1: over that when I was really brainstorming about these questions,

551
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: and I thought, what can I ask her? When I

552
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: thought of this one, I really knew I had a winner.

553
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: So here's thank you, Heather for these wonderful questions. The

554
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: best producer in the business that question. So I will

555
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: tell you. So when Canyon and I got married, Yeah,

556
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of her family's favorite things

557
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: I did. They show up and they're like, hey, we're

558
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: going to be here for the weekend or whatever, and

559
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: her mom's like, well, I got a few things for you.

560
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, what do you got? Well, here is

561
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: Jessica's cell phone, Bill. Here is Jessica's triple A card.

562
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: Here is Jessica, and she's giving me like twenty I'm like,

563
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Speaker 2: what in the world now?

564
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Speaker 1: None of them were hefty tabs by any means, but

565
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Speaker 1: it was comical. She's like, she's your problem now, and

566
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: it was very funny like it was. It was a

567
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek because you know, one thing about Canyon

568
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Speaker 1: I love is, you know, since we've had children, she's

569
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: to stay at home mom, but she's always been such

570
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: an earner, right, and she's she's out there busting her button.

571
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Speaker 1: And I love that she had her own career and

572
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Speaker 1: her own design on things, and and I really.

573
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Speaker 2: Love that about her. And I also love that she's

574
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Speaker 2: been willing to kind of take a back seat to

575
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Speaker 2: help raise our family. But I know how excited she

576
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: has to get back out there, right, and it's and

577
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Speaker 2: exciting for her.

578
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 3: So I get to tell you, yeah, that's a blessing,

579
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 3: oh big time. You understand that, a big time. It's

580
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: a rarity. Yeah that's a gym, not even a diamond

581
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Speaker 3: of the rough.

582
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Speaker 2: That is, it's the next level stuff. But what's funny

583
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Speaker 2: is I didn't even I didn't ask that I was like, well,

584
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: you we can get it. Like we tried to get

585
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Speaker 2: a nanny and a parrot.

586
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Speaker 1: We tried to do everything, and it was one of

587
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: those things where it was like, this was something that

588
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: was important to her and I and I really value

589
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: that and respect that.

590
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I think you're right.

591
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: I think there if the things are starting to feel serious,

592
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: you got to kind of figure that out early and

593
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: then and then to follow up on that. And when

594
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Speaker 1: I was really grinding on these questions, this is one

595
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: that really stuck out with me. If someone does have

596
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Speaker 1: a lot of debt, is that a red flag? Right,

597
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: that's a red Flagg's a red flag.

598
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: Is what you're gonna do?

599
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: But you know what's interesting.

600
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: If you, well, circumstances might dictate that, right, someone who

601
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: put themselves through school, somebody did a whole bunch of

602
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: stuff that kind of debt. You're like, well, good for you, Yeah,

603
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: credit card debt or or or things that they just

604
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: aren't paying on. Then you're like, what's up with this person?

605
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's not right.

606
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: No, I agree, So.

607
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: It just depends.

608
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: And again you and I both being having been through

609
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: a marriage previously, and now you know you're at a

610
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: different stage in your life at this point. You're like,

611
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Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to take on. Do

612
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: I want to take on someone else's baggage from the

613
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Speaker 1: standpoint of years and years of credit card abuse and

614
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 1: things like that?

615
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's the right term, but

616
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: you know it is.

617
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 3: I mean, and that's a that's a real thing. It's

618
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: a real thing. And so you know, is it a

619
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Speaker 3: red flag or is it a yellow flag? Caution? How

620
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: much do I really like the character of this person?

621
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 3: How much we really genuinely equally yoked, how much are

622
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: we really genuinely in love with each other? And the

623
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 3: whole thing that comes with she's showing me what I need.

624
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and that's a vulnerability too, right, if someone's

625
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: willing to share with you. Hey man, I had some

626
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: issues for a couple of years financially, but I'm handling it,

627
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: I think.

628
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: I think.

629
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Speaker 1: Then you're like, that wouldn't be a red flag to me,

630
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: that would be something I think that would be almost

631
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: like a show of character. Yes, Like everyone goes through

632
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: tough times, and how you rebound and how you how

633
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: you handle those situations, I think shows who you are.

634
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 3: It's it's part of your testimony, it's part of your history,

635
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: it's part of what got you to be where you're at. Yeah, totally.

636
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: But if you can be honest and upright, up up

637
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: front and forthright, that says something. Also, Yeah, I'm great.

638
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to hide this from you. I'm just

639
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: going to I gotta let you know about this.

640
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something I think is interesting. All right,

641
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: if you're dating someone for let's say six months, okay,

642
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: excuse me, and their children don't get along with you,

643
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: and the children are older, right, you're.

644
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: Not my dad. That kind of stuff, right, I mean

645
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: you see in movies all the time.

646
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: Run Yeah.

647
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: Okay. So the rest of this question.

648
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Is how is there a sign of relationship won't work

649
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: out long term? I think absolutely that's not gonna work. Yeah,

650
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: because no one is going to choose. No one's gonna choose.

651
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, family is always a big part.

652
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: Of every relationship. Yeah, no one's gonna well, well, no

653
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: one who you want to be with is gonna let

654
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: their son go and be like, no, I want to

655
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: be with you, because I'd be like, what the hell

656
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: does that say about you?

657
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, exactly.

658
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: I had I had a situation at one point where

659
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: a woman that I knew was upset about a guy

660
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: that she was dating because he always put his kids

661
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: from his previous marriage first. And I remember saying, I

662
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: was like, do me a favor. Don't ever say that

663
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: to anyone ever again.

664
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

665
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: She's like going, man like, that's what a man is

666
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: supposed to do. So you found a guy in Hollywood

667
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: of all places who's going to put his family first.

668
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: Celebrate that man, because most do. It'll be like, oh

669
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: you know I yeah, yeah, I'll handcele plans with my kids.

670
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: Hell no, man, I would never do it. I'd just

671
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: be like, no, I have already got plans. If that

672
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: doesn't work for you, then we just don't work.

673
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You know I couldn't agree with you. More family,

674
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: especially your children, that's our future. It's just a matter

675
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: of time before they grow up and grow out and

676
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: get away. So you know, invest in that in those

677
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: boys and girls, because ultimately that's what's going to come

678
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: back and take care of you later in life. Yeah.

679
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: I means so true.

680
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: Right.

681
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: Do you think people can have different religious beliefs and

682
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: have a successful relationship.

683
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: I do. I do. It's you know, are they equally

684
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: yoked yet? Do they both believe in a God? Yes,

685
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: it's not the same, right, but I think it's possible. Sure,

686
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: I think it's possible.

687
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I dated someone I'm I don't know

688
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: what I am, to be honest. I think I was

689
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: raised Methodist or Baptist, but I think I'm Protestant, right, Yes,

690
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: And I dated someone who was Jewish, yes, for a

691
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: very long time.

692
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

693
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: And I loved being a part of her cultures and

694
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: her experiences and her religious traditions that I had no

695
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: clue of.

696
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: Old Testament New Testament.

697
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, there you go, right, it's yeah, and

698
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: the New Testament is much more open.

699
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Yes, right, yes, but yeah, I enjoyed, I actually enjoyed

700
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: having the different cultural experiences and the different religious experiences,

701
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: and I learned a lot from that, you know.

702
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: And it was a fun relationship. Yeah, and yeah, so

703
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: that was kind of neat. So I am someone who

704
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: believes that can work.

705
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: You just have to pour into each other. Yeah, that's all.

706
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: So we're at number ten, are you ready?

707
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Okay, what's a small thing people tend to overlook, but

708
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: in reality, is a huge sign a relationship isn't good.

709
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: It's a huge but a huge sign to small.

710
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: Thing people tend to overlook, but in reality, is a

711
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: huge sign a relationship isn't good.

712
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: What are you?

713
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: This is like that's you don't understand? How many years

714
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: are scrolling? I went to these questions. I think it's important.

715
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: And here's a small thing that could be a big thing,

716
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: public displays of affection. Someone that doesn't like public displays

717
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: of affection. But your love language is touchy and you

718
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: like holding hands and the person doesn't realize the impact

719
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: that that has on your emotional state. That could lead

720
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 3: to you not liking that person anymore, because it's almost

721
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: as if they don't want anyone to know that you're together. Yeah,

722
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: if you're dating, Yeah, that's not a good sign.

723
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: That's true.

724
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: And I guess so. I think public displays of affection

725
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: are important. That you can't be afraid of to kiss

726
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: someone in front of other people if you really care

727
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: about the person. Holding hands is another big one. Hugging

728
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: is another big one. So I think that's huge.

729
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: Sure, because you seem like an affectionate guy, I would

730
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: guess you're an affectionate guy. I am, I am so,

731
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm an affectionate guy too, and I'm married to someone

732
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: who's not as affectionate as me. Right, And it's kind

733
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: of funny because her idea of like cuddling at night

734
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: will show go, She'll put her leg on me, go

735
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: there we're cuddling. It's funny, right, But but I actually

736
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: kind of love our differences in that regard because when

737
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: I actually can crack the code and get her to

738
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: actually the affectionate with me, I'm like, yeah, I want.

739
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: It's a good fun thing. Yeah.

740
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm saying, I tell you, you know, it's a

741
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: small thing, but it's a big it's a big yeah.

742
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: Its so you got to know when to like from

743
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: from her perspective. I always I will always say this.

744
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: I'll be like, hey, man, once in a while, you

745
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: need to actually show me some show show me some love.

746
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: All right.

747
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: What's one thing you think men at fifty plus, which

748
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: we both are, need to lighten up on when it

749
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 1: comes to dating. So, what's when you're talking to your buddies,

750
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: you're talking to the mansion men, you're talking to the

751
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: crew that you know, your buddies from home, and they're like,

752
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: this is this is a deal breaker for me right,

753
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, man, that just seems why is that

754
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: a deal breaker? What do you hear from your friends

755
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: and from your from your boys that that you think

756
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: is a little ridiculous.

757
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: Just realizing that you're not gonna win every battle. Yeah,

758
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: and some things you just have to let go of.

759
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: I don't care how big or how small it is.

760
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: Just let them have some victories. Yeah, it doesn't matter

761
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: what it.

762
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: Is, because we get so stubborn at a certain like

763
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: we I've been on my own for.

764
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: Tell me where to park.

765
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 3: And it's not speaking from experience either.

766
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: I have my favorite things. A kid, I'll go. You know,

767
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: it's so weird. Before I met you, I was single

768
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: for twelve years.

769
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: Do you know?

770
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: I knew how to park every car and no one

771
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: was scared when someone hit the brakes six hundred yards

772
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: ahead of me.

773
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: And I love this woman, but oh my god, Am

774
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 2: I right?

775
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: I know the feeling totally yet it so yeah, No,

776
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm right there with you.

777
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: But you know, you think, get fifty plus, a lot

778
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: of guys are like just trying to win every bat.

779
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're trying to win every battle, and it's like, man,

780
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: you gotta let that go. Just that's not important. Yeah,

781
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: it really isn't not in the big scheme of things.

782
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: How about conversely for women fifty plus, Like you're out

783
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: there in the dating world, you hear it, what are

784
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: women in your opinion?

785
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: And I get it that's.

786
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: Gonna be a generalization, but yeah, what in your experiences,

787
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: what have you seen that women are really?

788
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: This is it?

789
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: This is a deal breaker for me. And you're just like, why.

790
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: I think the some women these days who are very independent,

791
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: they they want to take the lead, but they don't

792
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: know how to acquiesce and give and give you even

793
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: in dancing, it's like you know there there's a leader

794
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: and a follower in dancing right.

795
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: Well, and you're a really good dancer, so you know

796
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: that better than most. He should lead.

797
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: If I'm leading, it's gonna be like two left feet out.

798
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden we're both like, I'm

799
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: gonna spend and.

800
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: Nothing against strong, independent women who are successful in their

801
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: careers and doing all the things. But you've got to

802
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: acquiesce and let the man do what he does, opening

803
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: the door.

804
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: Just little things, So don't get offended by chivalrous or

805
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: gentlemanly behavior. Amen, Yes, yes, yeah, I think that's I

806
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: think that's a really good point too.

807
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

808
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: So when you're dating and you go on a first day,

809
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: what are three things that you think you should know

810
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: about that person after that first date?

811
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: Top three things?

812
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: The top three things I want to know. First of

813
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: all is are you a godly woman? Do you believe

814
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: in you're religion as a spiritual person? Yeah, that's that's

815
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: I think something very important. And you can't be afraid

816
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: to ask that question, right, because.

817
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: Well, it has become kind of a taboo topic. It

818
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: seems right like people are afraid to ask that question,

819
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: right exactly.

820
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: So that's one. I think. The second thing is things

821
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: that they enjoy doing extracurricular activities. I want to know

822
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: something for the next time I plan a date. Hey,

823
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: let's go for a hike.

824
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: I know you like to You said you like hiking,

825
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: and yeah, that kind of thing, right.

826
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 3: And then the third thing I think would be is God,

827
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: there's so many things going through my mind. Now do

828
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: you like to travel? Do you like to? So I

829
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: can really look forward to planning another outing or another.

830
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: Date, or to see if you have enough in common

831
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: then another date makes sense. Yeah, right, exactly. So if

832
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: you're a big travel guy and they're like, nope, I

833
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: like to be on the couch.

834
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm not going anywhere, Like Okay, this is

835
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: not the right.

836
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: Person for me.

837
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: Flag.

838
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a right. Flag, that's a that'll be another date.

839
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: So intimacy, yeah.

840
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: Right, everybody always this is kind of the hot button topic,

841
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: right it seems anyway, especially with like Tender and all

842
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: the different dating apps out there. You know, if you're

843
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: intimate with someone on the first night, do you think,

844
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: generally speaking, do men still want to date that woman

845
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: if they hooked up in the biblical sense on the

846
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: first night.

847
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: No?

848
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: Really, Wow, I love that you're being honest right now.

849
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: Not for me? Yeah, okay, do you go through with

850
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: the with the intimacy on the biblical.

851
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: Sense on the first night?

852
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: No?

853
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: No, okay, okay, now, because if you said yes, I

854
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: was gonna be like hippocrite.

855
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's say this.

856
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: So if someone's basically because it was like Gary, let's

857
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: go upstairs, and you're like.

858
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: No, that's not that's not no, nope, yeah, that's not

859
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: gonna happen. But you're you're also like, and she's not

860
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: right for me, I'm not going.

861
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: Right, you know. I I want someone who respects me

862
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: as a person. I'm not just some physical being that's

863
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: just trying to me.

864
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: You're not walking around like it. No USD choice.

865
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: Also looking at you with all due respect the same way.

866
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 3: I want to be able to look forward to this

867
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: gift that's been given to me, but over a period

868
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: of time, and we're both gonna have to earn the

869
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: respect of each other as well as the opportunity to

870
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: love each other. As my body is a temple, but

871
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: so is yours. But that doesn't mean that I'm any

872
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: less than just because I'm a god young man.

873
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna I want to.

874
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: Those days are way back there. They're way back there.

875
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: I get it. I hear you, buddy. I love that.

876
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: All right.

877
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's more.

878
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 2: I got more.

879
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: I've still got like forty six questions left on our

880
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: top twenty one questions. Now, I'm just kidding, all right.

881
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: Long distance relationships. You've been in one before, right, I'm

882
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: sure you have.

883
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: They don't work?

884
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: They right, Okay, they don't work.

885
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't work. I've tried, and it's just not possible. Yeah,

886
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: not for me. Yeah, I want someone who's going to

887
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: be around close by, who is pouring into me as

888
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm able to pour into them, right, and with technology

889
00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: and the FaceTime and all that, it's just to crutch

890
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: it really is.

891
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: I can say this as someone who lived it. Yeah,

892
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: it really opposite coasts is a very difficult thing to do.

893
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: Now done that doesn't expensive, and yeah, very expensive, But

894
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: there's different ways to be long distance. But if there's

895
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: a time change involved, for me, it's not going to

896
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: work because it becomes a struggle to stay involved in

897
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: each other's life totally and to be and to be

898
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: a resource for that person, which is why you're in

899
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: a relationship.

900
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 3: Right.

901
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: If the plan of me being in a relationship is

902
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: for me to share my life with someone, me getting

903
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: the cliff notes at the end of the night, right

904
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: before you're going to bed, that's not sharing.

905
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me just.

906
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: Getting you know, somebody just kind of filling me in

907
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: another day. I could do that with no offense. I

908
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: could do that with you and and I don't need

909
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: to be sleeping with you.

910
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to work. No, it's just it's

911
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: something about being present, yeah, or in the neighborhood or

912
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 3: nearby close enough to where we can drive to each other.

913
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, we can get over there.

914
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: We can spend time together, touch each other, hang out.

915
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: Doesn't need to be sexual every time, it do whatever

916
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: it is right now?

917
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: I love that. Okay.

918
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: If you're in a relationship with someone, do you consider

919
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: any of the following cheating? Going to strip club yes,

920
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: watching porn yes, having a subscription to OnlyFans no. Come on,

921
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Okay, I'm supposed to make this fast.

922
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: You just derailed the whole train. How is that one not?

923
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: Oh? For God's sake?

924
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, all right.

925
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: When you're in a serious relationship or marriage, is it

926
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: okay to be friends with an ex if you had

927
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: no children together?

928
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 3: Yes? Why your friends?

929
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: Right?

930
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: Mhm. But it depends if your partner thinks that's not good,

931
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 3: you gotta be ready to say yeah, we're yeah, agree. Agree.

932
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: What do you think of couples who divorce and then

933
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: remarry each By the way.

934
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 3: That last question, it took me some time to grow

935
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: into that, because once a relationship was over, it was over.

936
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: You were done.

937
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 3: See why the train is leaving the station. But I've

938
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 3: seen how people have grown back together.

939
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: Just and I have a different capacity.

940
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've always said, how is that? How is

941
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: that possible? Yeah? But my ex and I, my ex wife,

942
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: and my grandson now have brought us all closer together

943
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: as yeah, of course.

944
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I'm I'm still friendly with my ax

945
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: and and it's cool with Canyon, so that makes it cool.

946
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: If she wasn't cool with it, I wouldn't Ben't you

947
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: know how to respect for our marriage and our relationship? Sorry,

948
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: I love it.

949
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: I love it.

950
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: Do you believe in love it first sight?

951
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 3: Yes?

952
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: Boxers or briefs? Boxers, baloney or Cheeseez?

953
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: I have an idea to talk about, all right, what's

954
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: something you learned about yourself going through the vorce.

955
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: That nobody comes out unscathed. Everybody gets cut.

956
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: I was talking to Deanna Pappas every and Diana Papus

957
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: just went through something very public, right, and I said

958
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: to I'm like, I'm like, Deanna, been saying this for years,

959
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: but no one seems to listen to me. Divorce sucks,

960
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: even if you want it.

961
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

962
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the reason why it sucks is because it

963
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: is still having to recognize the end of something that

964
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: you wanted to work. Absolutely if you didn't want it.

965
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: To work you wouldn't have done in the first place.

966
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: And it's and it sucks because it's easier to get

967
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: divorced than it is to get married. Everybody, you know, Yeah,

968
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: there's no one, no stone left unturned, and nobody.

969
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: To see some scar for a long time. I agree.

970
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: Well, buddy, as always, you are so open and vulnerable

971
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: and honest. I love it.

972
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thanks for being on the show again, Thanks

973
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: for being a part of this whole thing.

974
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: Thanks for letting me beat you and pick a ball today.

975
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: Left man, that's spin that English, that natural English she

976
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: puts on the ball. But I appreciate you, man, I

977
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: love I love that the Goldens came into this whole

978
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: world and it brought a lot for me personally, like

979
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: to get to see some people that I loved, how

980
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: they were handling themselves and and and then to get

981
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: to know you guys all over the years has been

982
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: so great. But thank you for always being an open book.

983
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for being a part of this. Congratulations on your

984
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: run on Paradise. I know we're all gonna be watching

985
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: and seeing how it unfold.

986
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: Because I can't wait to see.

987
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: Amen.

988
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are some fun things coming up and

989
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see it all.

990
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: So thank you, Bob. Lots and lots of people need you, man.

991
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: I need you too well, Thank you, buddy.

992
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 3: But don't ever forget, Bob, truly. I mean that's from

993
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: the bottom of my heart, how much you matter. You

994
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: matter man, well, thank you buddy. I so hold on

995
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: to that and never forget you matter to so many people. Wow,

996
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: thank you.

997
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: No, thank you man, that's very kind things for you

998
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: to say.

999
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: You're getting me emotional, but I got five minutes before

1000
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: I would cry, so nothing's going to happen, right, Heather.

1001
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: No, thank you, buddy.

1002
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: That means a lot to me, and it means a

1003
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: lot to me coming from you, So thank you very much.

1004
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: So thank you for being here.

1005
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: Make sure you guys watch on Paradise on Monday nights

1006
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: on ABC of course streaming on Hulu.

1007
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: And we want to hear from you guys, right, We.

1008
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: Want to hear from our listeners on I do part too,

1009
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: so please call us or email us all the infos

1010
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: in the show notes, follow us on the socials. Make

1011
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: sure to rate and review every podcast. Always give the

1012
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: ones where Gary are on are on a much better ratings.

1013
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: We deserve it.

1014
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: I Do Part two, an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in

1015
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: love is the main objective.

1016
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time.