WEBVTT - No Transparency From High-Speed Rail (10/12)

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<v Speaker 1>on a tour. Try to hit about 50 homes tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight we're starting? Yeah, tonight we're starting. Oh. Right at

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<v Speaker 1>6 o'clock. Okay. How much are we getting paid for that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know we don't get paid. It's because we love this. Oh, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We love this. That's right. That's the company line. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the criminals who run high-speed rail. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned before, I grew up in New Jersey. and

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<v Speaker 1>watched New York City media. New Jersey didn't have very

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<v Speaker 1>much media of its own. And so all I saw

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<v Speaker 1>was New York City coverage all the time. And they

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of mobsters in New York. And, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mobsters would shoot each other at Italian restaurants and they'd

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<v Speaker 1>end up splayed out, face down in a bowl of

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<v Speaker 1>tomato sauce and pasta. They would... End up getting slaughtered

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets. The blood would be gushing all over

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<v Speaker 1>the sidewalks. Sometimes the mobsters would be chased. Sometimes they'd

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<v Speaker 1>get arrested. The thing is, they never wanted to answer questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So they always ran.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Any politicians, because there was the New York City media

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and they were really tough. They were nothing

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<v Speaker 1>like the delicate flowers here in Los Angeles in 2026.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys were tough. I mean, the media guys were

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<v Speaker 1>like gangsters themselves, the men and the women. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were relentless, and they asked obnoxious questions, and they never

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<v Speaker 1>gave up. And they were out there 24-7. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was really entertaining. Really entertaining. And the corner politicians at

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<v Speaker 1>the press conference surround them. Here, we don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles at all. They have two up north.

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Watts, who works for CBS, and Ashley Zavala, who

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<v Speaker 1>works for KCRA. So you have two up north, and

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<v Speaker 1>they go after everybody, the governor, the assembly, the state senate,

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<v Speaker 1>high-speed rail. Down here, nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We get a lot of lifestyle reports down here. So

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going to hear is how journalism used to be,

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<v Speaker 1>might still be in other cities, but you won't see

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<v Speaker 1>this in Los Angeles. Now Ian Chowdhury had a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>before the High Speed Rail board because all these consultants

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<v Speaker 1>from out of town were flying into L.A. and they

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<v Speaker 1>were running up big expense accounts. Not only here, but

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<v Speaker 1>in their hometowns. And you probably heard the story. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to cigar bars and they're going to strip clubs

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<v Speaker 1>and expensive restaurants. And there's a lot of alcohol involved.

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<v Speaker 1>But what they found in one of these investigations is

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<v Speaker 1>they were leaving Ian Chaudhry's house and taking Uber rides.

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<v Speaker 1>to other destinations from his house and charging it to us,

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<v Speaker 1>the state taxpayers. Like Chaudry wouldn't give his buddies a ride.

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<v Speaker 1>Like his, these consultants who work on high-speed rail are

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<v Speaker 1>all his friends. So his friends come over his house

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<v Speaker 1>and then they need a ride back to the hotel and,

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<v Speaker 1>or go out to a restaurant. And, and Chaudry says, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just use my, my credit cards. I got an expense

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<v Speaker 1>account for this. So they got caught. Now, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear reporters, Ashley Zavala from KCRA, Julie Watts from

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<v Speaker 1>CBS California. She's based up there as well. And another

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<v Speaker 1>reporter hounding Ian Chowdhury with questions. And the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>Chowdhury is running away. Play cut number one. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have time to speak with us? Just a few questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a few questions. We'll be on in about 30 minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Chowdhury, do you just have, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 5>The board is, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Your team is telling us that you're going into that

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<v Speaker 2>closed session?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. So will you come out after the closed.

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<v Speaker 1>Session, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>He's told us no, but we're asking you directly. Excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop a second. Stop a second. So there's this little

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<v Speaker 1>hairless weasel. What's his name? Matt Rocco, chief of external

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<v Speaker 1>affairs and communications. He gets in the way and tries

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<v Speaker 1>to disperse the reporters from finding out the truth. Continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Mr. Chaudhry is a public employee and the taxpayers deserve

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from him. So we have a right to

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<v Speaker 2>ask him why they were going out to your state

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<v Speaker 2>house that you frequent and driving home in Ubers paid

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<v Speaker 2>for by taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would he consult with your house after the meeting?

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<v Speaker 1>Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Chaudhry, what is your response to the calls for you

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<v Speaker 5>to resign?

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<v Speaker 4>Sir, we would have loved to just have a sit-down interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just getting to the closed session.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you want to offer us a sit-down interview,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Chase you around.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, I need to direct the board members' closed session.

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<v Speaker 1>He only sees Ian Chowdhury's back most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it was after 1 a.m. that they were consultants

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<v Speaker 1>leaving her Chowdhury's home. After 1 o'clock in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>they were caught leaving Chowdhury's home, going back to their hotels,

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<v Speaker 1>and getting Uber rides on our tab. So are they

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<v Speaker 1>spending the night drinking at his house? They're actually discussing

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<v Speaker 1>high-speed rail policy at one in the morning. And Chaudhry

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<v Speaker 1>can't give him a ride back to the hotel. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got to pay for it. Play some more.

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<v Speaker 4>We have specific questions. Did you see our CBS investigation

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<v Speaker 4>that dropped today? We looked at the receipts. They show

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<v Speaker 4>UberEats holding their house, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>After midnight, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Consultants billed those to taxpayers. Did you approve that?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read our investigation?

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<v Speaker 4>So, Julie, we're going to, if you have any questions,

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<v Speaker 4>please direct them to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read our investigation today?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tell us why these consultants were charging taxpayers?

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<v Speaker 1>You guys aren't interviewing me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm asking. You just asked us a direct question to you. Right, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead and direct any questions you have for me,

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<v Speaker 4>and we'd be more than happy to respond.

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<v Speaker 1>Can Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Chaudhry not take questions just on his own?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is everything.

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<v Speaker 5>Expected to be pre-submitted? Because we've also asked for an

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<v Speaker 5>interview repeatedly. We've showed up to numerous meetings, like this one,

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<v Speaker 5>where Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Chaudhry won't speak to journalists or really to the public

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<v Speaker 2>that he is serving right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, actually, we made you available to interview the chair

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<v Speaker 4>at our last meeting. Well, not me specifically. Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>we did.

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<v Speaker 2>Another journalistic hour at our, I acknowledge, but after a

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<v Speaker 2>public meeting, public officials are typically generally, hopefully, expected to

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<v Speaker 2>speak with the public that they are, you know, their

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<v Speaker 2>business that they're discussing following these meetings and following the

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<v Speaker 2>results of this one.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it would be great to get a comment out.

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<v Speaker 5>The public is paying a salary, and we would love

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to ask them questions directly.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, and that is why the CEO as well

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<v Speaker 4>as the entire board showed up today to address this.

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<v Speaker 5>But not talk to the media?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he was speaking to the public as well as

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<v Speaker 4>the media. You guys have been in the meeting all day.

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<v Speaker 1>So that little gerbil there, Matt Rocco, you follow what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying? Chaudhry will not speak directly to the reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rocco's trying to sell him on the idea. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he did speak directly, and so did the board at

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<v Speaker 1>the meeting. You know, when they're sitting up there behind

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<v Speaker 1>their long desk, and you had Chaudhry, I guess, at

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<v Speaker 1>the witness stand talking to the board members, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the statement to the public he's saying. That's the statement

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<v Speaker 1>to reporters. Like, no, that's the little game that they play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their theatrical presentation where Chowdhury explains himself and the

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<v Speaker 1>board members tend to be irritated at all this money

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<v Speaker 1>being spent and blah, blah, blah. But the truth is,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been going on for 17 years. The board

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<v Speaker 1>members know exactly what's going on. In fact, they're busy

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<v Speaker 1>spending money, too. I'd like to see their expense accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>Chowdhury knows this has been going on for 17 years.

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<v Speaker 3>Just.

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Watts happened to get the goods and got some

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<v Speaker 1>of the records and the receipts. So, again, they're over

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<v Speaker 1>Chowdhury's house until 1 in the morning, and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting taxpayer-paid rides back to their hotel, among other crimes

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<v Speaker 1>that these people are committing. And so Chowdhury runs away.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Rocco runs interference, and he's so condescending. With that

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<v Speaker 1>soft spoke, and it's like, well, he does want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you. You just submit your question. Yeah, here's

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<v Speaker 1>how it works. Reporters submit the questions, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>month later, you get generic boilerplate nonsense. word salad answers. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we did send you a response. It's not a response.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no responses. There's no explanation for this. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear Shadri say, yeah, we were up till one

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning talking high-speed rail policy. Because they weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't deserve a taxpayer-paid ride back to the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>after they all got sloshed at Chowdhury's house. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>another cut to play for you when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM640.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the criminals, the mobsters running high-speed rail, they've

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<v Speaker 1>already stolen about $ 17 million from you. And they want

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<v Speaker 1>to steal potentially, last estimate I saw was about $ 236 billion.

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<v Speaker 1>They sold $ 17 billion. They want to steal $ 236 billion.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you know, there are no trains. There's no track.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no passengers. There's no nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>But....

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Watts, CBS California, found that whole bunch of receipts,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like she and Chowdhury's buddies are rail consultants,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rail consultants spend the evening drinking at Chowdhury's house,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when everybody has too much, at one in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, they pile into Ubers or taxis or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and we pay the bill. Julie Watts found this, and

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<v Speaker 1>when she wanted to question Chowdhury about this and other things,

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<v Speaker 1>he ran. and put this little gerbil guy, Matt Rocco,

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<v Speaker 1>the communications chief, in between, who's this soft-spoken little ghoul,

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<v Speaker 1>and treated the reporters very condescendingly because, you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing ever happens to them. Nothing happens to these people.

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<v Speaker 1>They know this. Nobody's getting voted out of office, right? Nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>So they can steal and steal and steal, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to stop them. So here's a longer piece,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll hear Ashley Zavala again from KCRA, Julie Watts

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<v Speaker 1>from CBS, and chasing Rocco and chasing Ian Shoudry.

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<v Speaker 2>Why can't Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Shoudry just answer to this directly?

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<v Speaker 2>Mr.

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<v Speaker 4>Shoudry just spent the last few hours in this board

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<v Speaker 4>meeting with a statement. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>A prepared statement is much different than taking questions from journalists.

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<v Speaker 4>Mr.

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<v Speaker 2>Chowdhury, again, his salary is paid for by taxpayers. That

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<v Speaker 2>job at these public meetings taxpayers might expect isn't just

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<v Speaker 2>limited to the discussion on the dais.

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<v Speaker 4>Mr.

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<v Speaker 5>Chowdhury should be able to answer basic questions about the

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<v Speaker 5>outcome of this hearing. And his activity as CEO, especially

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<v Speaker 5>as he faces calls to resign.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you'd like to contact my office, I'd be

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<v Speaker 4>more than happy to set something up for you.

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<v Speaker 5>We have requested numerous interviews.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you all requested interviews with Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Chaudry?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I know I have.

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone has been denied.

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<v Speaker 5>So you can say this, but you have not provided

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<v Speaker 5>any interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop a second. Stop a second. There's the game. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, Chaudry was just there, but he disappeared behind

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<v Speaker 1>two closed doors. And so... Rocco stands there and says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could just ask us and I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you when we could set something up. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's Julie Watts speaking. Well, we ask you all the

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<v Speaker 1>time and you just never schedule anything. In fact, all

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<v Speaker 1>the reporters there, I think there were at least four,

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<v Speaker 1>they ask him all the time, see how the game

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<v Speaker 1>is played? And again, why not? They're getting paid extremely

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<v Speaker 1>well with your tax money and you vote. You kept

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<v Speaker 1>voting for Newsom. and Jerry Brown, and now the polls

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<v Speaker 1>say you're voting for Becerra. Well, why shouldn't they keep

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<v Speaker 1>stealing your money? You're a fool. The voters are clowns.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve to be bent over the way they're bending

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<v Speaker 1>you over and stealing all your money. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>even going to work for? I love people who say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a hardworking. Yeah, you're hardworking, and you give it

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<v Speaker 1>away to these criminals. Okay, good. Keep working hard. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>the fool here? You think it's them? They're not the fools.

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<v Speaker 1>They got your number. You're going to keep voting for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Place some more here.

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<v Speaker 4>When you've given us enough time to... Sir, I have

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<v Speaker 4>been requesting interviews for six months. Actually, you asked me

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<v Speaker 4>a question, and you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I just told you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have stated a fact. You have denied our interview.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm stating a fact that we have.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys have asked us a question, and when you

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<v Speaker 4>give us enough time to be able to respond, then

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<v Speaker 4>we do respond.

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<v Speaker 2>So are you saying he is available for interviews if

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<v Speaker 2>we just have an open deadline?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter when the deadline is?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he just available in general for interviews?

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying is that if you contact my office,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll be able to address any questions that you have

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<v Speaker 4>about the authority.

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<v Speaker 5>Address, but does that mean he's available for interviews to

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<v Speaker 5>ask our questions?

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<v Speaker 1>You will need to.

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<v Speaker 4>The way it works is that you will contact the

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<v Speaker 4>public in any department in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very aware of how it works, but will he

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<v Speaker 2>be available to answer our specific questions?

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<v Speaker 4>You need to let me answer your question and not

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<v Speaker 4>cut me off.

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<v Speaker 1>See the game?

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<v Speaker 4>If you contact my office, I'd be more than happy

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<v Speaker 4>to work with any reporter on any questions that you

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<v Speaker 4>guys have. So then we can get... all the information,

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<v Speaker 4>the correct information out to the public. That is your intent, correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Does he not have the correct information?

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, isn't that his job to have the correct information?

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<v Speaker 4>Let me work with you because they just seem to

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk. So we are, we're more than happy

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to answer any questions that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop, stop a second. Rocco is just, Jesus, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>snake and a skunk and a gerbil. Ian Shadry. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to guess what his salary is, what his total

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<v Speaker 1>compensation was, salary benefits? Anybody just throw out a number? $ 640, 000. Wow!

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<v Speaker 1>That is good. Oh, you should go to the Price

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<v Speaker 1>is Right. Really? $ 638, 943. Woo! Although on the Price is Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you went over, right? Yes, you would have lost. You

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<v Speaker 1>would have lost because you were.

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<v Speaker 4>$ 1, 000 over.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I get for this? I have nothing for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have my undying appreciation. Wow, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Yeah, Ian Chadry makes $ 638, 000 plus this guy Rocco,

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<v Speaker 1>and they could just stand there and stonewall and act

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<v Speaker 1>condescending and turn all the discussion back on the reporters. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you're interrupting me. The reporters are doing the job for

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<v Speaker 1>us taxpayers. Because none of us can get inside these meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't go up to Sacramento and grab you people

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<v Speaker 1>and shake you silly. Can't do that. So the reporters

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<v Speaker 1>are supposed to get the information. Now, we're lucky we

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<v Speaker 1>have those two up in Sacramento and a couple others

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<v Speaker 1>because there's nobody down here. Why do you think L.A.

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<v Speaker 1>is so screwed, huh?

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<v Speaker 2>L.A.

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<v Speaker 1>Is screwed because none of the reporters do this. They

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<v Speaker 1>won't even do this. All right. More coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 1>of this nonsense, you could unleash your frustration and aggravation

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<v Speaker 1>and venom on the moist line. 877-MOIST-86. We use the

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<v Speaker 1>Talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. We're live on X,

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<v Speaker 1>live on YouTube. And this hour we have been playing

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<v Speaker 1>you clips of Julie Watts from CBS California and Ashley

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<v Speaker 1>Zavala from KCRA. And a couple other reporters who chased

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<v Speaker 1>Ian Chowdhury, the head of the criminal operation High Speed Rail,

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<v Speaker 1>and then had to deal with Matt Rocco, who's running interference.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the communications person for Chowdhury. And they don't

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<v Speaker 1>communicate very well. So I played you a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>clips of these reporters chasing Chowdhury. Let me just give

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<v Speaker 1>you some details about the scandal, the reason they were chasing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Julie Watts at CBS California, apparently, again, this is

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<v Speaker 1>no reporters here in L.A. In her story, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>well after dark one night last September, a highly paid

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<v Speaker 1>consultant for California High Speed Rail expensed a Lyft ride

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<v Speaker 1>that pulled up outside the agency's the agency CEO's home

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<v Speaker 1>in Folsom. This would be Chowdhury's home. And just before midnight,

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<v Speaker 1>another consultant expensed a Lyft ride from the same house

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<v Speaker 1>back to his Sacramento hotel. The first guy was Denver

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<v Speaker 1>attorney Brent Butzin, a legal services consultant. The second, listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this, was Theory Prate, That's the name, T-H-I-E-R-R-Y. Theory Prate,

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<v Speaker 1>managing director at KPMG, a financial advisor. Both successful. rides

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<v Speaker 1>as expenses connected with high-speed rail. KPMG, you know who

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<v Speaker 1>works for that? Chaudhry's wife. So they hired a consultant

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<v Speaker 1>from the company that his wife works for. Remember he

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife and his stepchild were all involved in

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<v Speaker 1>a brawl in front of his house some months back?

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<v Speaker 1>Whistleblowers provided CBS California with underlying expense records after the

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<v Speaker 1>high-speed rail inspector general found widespread failures in consultant travel oversight.

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<v Speaker 1>We looked at 6,000 pages of invoices and expense claims.

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<v Speaker 1>said Julie Watts, and Prate and Butson had a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>rides to or from Ian Chaudry's house. Another dozen rides

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<v Speaker 1>went to nearby Folsom restaurants and bars. Many involved late

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<v Speaker 1>night or early morning pickups, two of them after 1 a.m.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're working so that these two consultant characters, Brent

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<v Speaker 1>Butson and Thierry Prate, who works for the same company

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<v Speaker 1>as Chaudry's wife, after spending the evening at Chaudry's house,

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<v Speaker 1>then they go out for eat and drink. They stay

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<v Speaker 1>out until after one in the morning. We pay for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so you know. Last week, I told you. how

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<v Speaker 1>the Manhattan Institute did an extensive poll, and they found

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<v Speaker 1>that most of the people in the state, even large

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of Democrats, are upset with everything about what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the state. However, large amounts of Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>still going to vote for Javier Becerra, who has promised

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the same policies that all these people say they're

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<v Speaker 1>upset about. And this goes for independent voters, too. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of independent voters are unhappy, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Becerra. even though Steve Hilton is running a

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<v Speaker 1>painstaking detailed campaign about doing all these things differently. But

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<v Speaker 1>the mental state of so many people in California is

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<v Speaker 1>so severely compromised. They literally can't think straight because they're

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<v Speaker 1>so angered by Trump. that they cannot connect a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of simple concepts. Trump has nothing to do with state policies.

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<v Speaker 1>They hate state policies. And in most other states, when

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<v Speaker 1>things get really bad, they vote for somebody different. High-speed rail,

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<v Speaker 1>since we've been talking about this for most of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>The Manhattan Institute asked this question. Now, pay close attention here.

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<v Speaker 1>Which statement comes closest to your view, even if none

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly right? Here is the three choices. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>California's government should stop wasting public resources on over-budget, delayed

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<v Speaker 1>transportation projects like high-speed rail and use that money for

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<v Speaker 1>more pressing issues. That got 42%. How about this one?

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<v Speaker 1>California needs major transportation improvements like high-speed rail, but the

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<v Speaker 1>state's current leadership cannot be trusted to manage these products

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<v Speaker 1>efficiently or keep costs under control. That's 27%. So you

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<v Speaker 1>add the 42 and the 27, you get 69% of

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<v Speaker 1>the public unhappy with the way high-speed rail is being run.

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<v Speaker 1>Two-thirds of those people want it The whole thing scrapped.

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<v Speaker 1>One-third said, well, it should be built, but everything they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing is wasteful. And then you have this answer. California's

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<v Speaker 1>government should keep investing in major transportation projects like high-speed rail,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they're over budget and delayed because they're essential

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<v Speaker 1>for the state's growth and development. 25% say that. 25%.

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<v Speaker 1>So only one quarter of the population think we should

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<v Speaker 1>keep going the way we're going. Even though they've stolen

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<v Speaker 1>$ 17 billion and it's decades late. And if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Becerra voters, even 48% of Becerra voters are unhappy

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<v Speaker 1>with with this, 72% of Hilton voters and 50%, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>make it 80% of undecideds are unhappy. With Hilton voters, 72%

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<v Speaker 1>said they should stop spending money on it, and another 24%

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<v Speaker 1>said Well, keep spending, but not this leadership. They can't

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<v Speaker 1>be trusted. That's 96% of Hilton voters want either big

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<v Speaker 1>changes or completely out of high-speed rail. The Becerra voters, 48%,

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<v Speaker 1>want big changes or completely out. What is it about,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really mean this, what is it about Democratic voters,

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<v Speaker 1>they look at high-speed rail and they don't say, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a disaster. And if we're going to keep funding this,

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<v Speaker 1>at least we need a new regime. But instead, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to vote for Becerra, who's the same regime as Newsom.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. Clearly, everybody's upset. And this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing. You can insert homelessness here. One day

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<v Speaker 1>this week, I'm going to go through the negative opinion

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<v Speaker 1>most of the state has about giving illegal aliens health care. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Becerra's for that, too. He wants illegal aliens to have

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<v Speaker 1>free health care paid for by you. He wants everybody

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<v Speaker 1>to pay excessive gas taxes paid for by you. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to keep high-speed rail going paid for by you.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants all this. And most Republicans, nearly all Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>most independents, and even a sizable amount of Democrats say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to stop this. Well, you can't vote for

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<v Speaker 1>him then. If you vote for him, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get more of this. You're going to get more high-speed

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.940
<v Speaker 1>rail money wasted. You're going to get more gas tax money.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get illegal alien health care for free.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants the policies, but you won't vote for the

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<v Speaker 1>people who will give you different policies. What's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with everybody? What's the point of voting at

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<v Speaker 1>all if you're not going to vote for new policies

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<v Speaker 1>when you're unhappy with the old policies? Isn't that the

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<v Speaker 1>point of voting? These are the people responsible for what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in California. Not Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>You're wrong. It's got nothing to do with it. Right

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<v Speaker 1>now it's Newsom and it's going to be Becerra responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for this. So vote for somebody different. Why is that

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<v Speaker 1>so hard? It's like yelling at people trapped in a cult.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I got to take a break.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to John Kobelt on demand from KFI AM 640.

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM 640 live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. John

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<v Speaker 1>Kobelt show coming up after five o'clock. I'll find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give me a second here. Oh my goodness. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how much money is going out for pensions every

0:28:15.070 --> 0:28:21.810
<v Speaker 1>year to deadbeat state workers who are laying around the

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<v Speaker 1>house now. Over $ 6 billion. Some former state workers are

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<v Speaker 1>being paid up to $ 462, 000 a year. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk with an expert on this, Zachary Christensen. He leads

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<v Speaker 1>the pension integrity project at Reason Foundation. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the pension system is way short of the money it

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<v Speaker 1>needs in the long run. So we'll talk about that

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.830
<v Speaker 1>money being shoveled out the door. Oh, and by the way,

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.780
<v Speaker 1>you know who's responsible for a lot of this excessive

0:28:55.260 --> 0:28:59.020
<v Speaker 1>pension payments that we have to make? Gray Davis. Gray

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<v Speaker 1>Davis left a big steaming turd behind when he was

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<v Speaker 1>finally chased out of office. Now, I got to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something. You know what? When Ken and I first

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:12.459
<v Speaker 1>came to KFI back in the 90s, KFI was not

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<v Speaker 1>owned by iHeartMedia. It was owned by a company called Cox.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason I'm bringing this up. And Cox owned

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<v Speaker 1>a string of radio stations across the country, whatever the

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:24.810
<v Speaker 1>maximum number was at the time. And, you know, one

0:29:24.830 --> 0:29:27.670
<v Speaker 1>of the big jewel was here in L.A. They owned

0:29:27.890 --> 0:29:33.590
<v Speaker 1>KFI and they owned Coast and a smaller station. So

0:29:33.850 --> 0:29:37.070
<v Speaker 1>you never worked for Cox, did you, Debra? Are you there?

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>You never worked for Cox Radio. did you? Ken and

0:29:41.540 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I did back in the 90s. No, I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>You came post-Cox.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So now somebody I worked for in management at Cox

0:29:50.340 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>years ago used to joke about the Cox sisters. They

0:29:53.580 --> 0:29:56.580
<v Speaker 1>were like two little old ladies who owned a majority

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.580
<v Speaker 1>stake in the company. I was joked about keeping the

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:03.860
<v Speaker 1>Cox sisters happy. Well, I think the Cox sisters have

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<v Speaker 1>probably shuffled off the planet by now. And they've got

0:30:07.660 --> 0:30:14.650
<v Speaker 1>an heir to Cox Enterprises. Now, Cox sold a majority

0:30:14.750 --> 0:30:17.450
<v Speaker 1>stake in the radio stations years ago. They still own

0:30:17.470 --> 0:30:22.150
<v Speaker 1>a minority stake. But the companies is huge. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cable, Cox Cable, right? That's part of

0:30:24.730 --> 0:30:26.830
<v Speaker 1>it as well, right? They have a lot of media coverage.

0:30:27.700 --> 0:30:32.580
<v Speaker 1>media assets. Anyway, the heir is a guy named James

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:38.410
<v Speaker 1>Cox Fergie Chambers. He is now in custody with all

0:30:38.450 --> 0:30:43.770
<v Speaker 1>this money, I think probably billions of dollars. He was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested in Ibiza this summer at the request of the U.S. government.

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<v Speaker 1>They accuse him of activities linked to Hamas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing this guy's a grandson. Maybe he's a son.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Hamas, rioting, conspiracy to commit rioting, and

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<v Speaker 1>international money laundering. And they have a photo of the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and every square inch of flesh that's exposed on his neck, chest,

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:19.030
<v Speaker 1>and arms is covered in tattoos, including a tattoo next

0:31:19.050 --> 0:31:22.410
<v Speaker 1>to his eye as well. By the way, neck tattoos

0:31:23.350 --> 0:31:27.930
<v Speaker 1>means you're violent and insane. Face tattoos means you could

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<v Speaker 1>be a psycho killer. And the teardrops mean you killed somebody, right?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a news anchor.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to report on things like that. Maybe add

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<v Speaker 1>some context. God, no. Because if you do, I got

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<v Speaker 1>a list. No. No, I'm not involved in that world.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So this guy had.

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<v Speaker 1>This is funny. Wealthy kids, celebrity kids, you get guys

0:31:54.550 --> 0:31:57.630
<v Speaker 1>who are completely... Have you ever seen one of Tom Hanks' kids?

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Chet? I've heard of him, but no. Oh, same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy. Tattoos all over the place, right up to

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:11.740
<v Speaker 1>his neck. And all kinds of crazed behavior, just unhinged

0:32:11.830 --> 0:32:15.870
<v Speaker 1>behavior publicly, puts out all kinds of crazed posts. And

0:32:15.910 --> 0:32:19.739
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, is this like rich kid syndrome? A lot

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:25.340
<v Speaker 1>of DSA kids are rich kids. Can you imagine? You

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<v Speaker 1>and I came from nothing, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to work for whatever we've got. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this happens. You don't have to work. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>end up doing business with Hamas?

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<v Speaker 3>Got me.

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<v Speaker 1>You sit around bored? You join Hamas? You're financing rioting?

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<v Speaker 1>What goes on? Look at his eyes. He's got the

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.620
<v Speaker 1>dead eyes. He's wearing a Red Sox cap, too. I'm

0:32:53.660 --> 0:32:57.570
<v Speaker 1>just fascinated by those stories. I mean, you could, at

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<v Speaker 1>the very least, just have a good time with the money, right? Oh, God,

0:33:00.110 --> 0:33:03.910
<v Speaker 1>that's what I would do. Why would you invest in

0:33:03.970 --> 0:33:07.410
<v Speaker 1>organizations that kill people? I'd be investing in a shoe

0:33:07.430 --> 0:33:13.810
<v Speaker 1>company or something. I haven't seen anything new in a while,

0:33:13.850 --> 0:33:18.900
<v Speaker 1>by the way. No, it's the drought. My birthday's coming

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>up if you feel like buying me something. Yeah, I'm

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.100
<v Speaker 1>going to start buying you clothes. I didn't say clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoes are clothes to me. All right, we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about the excessive pensions that you

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<v Speaker 1>people agree to pay. Zachary Christensen, Pension Integrity Project. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just mentioned that Gray Davis was responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of the excessive pensions. Do you know

0:33:46.070 --> 0:33:48.950
<v Speaker 1>what he said some years ago? If I knew then

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<v Speaker 1>what I know now, I never would have signed that bill.

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<v Speaker 1>That's comforting. Yeah, right. We'll talk about how we got

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<v Speaker 1>here with the excessive pensions and we'll also do more

0:34:07.660 --> 0:34:13.739
<v Speaker 1>on Nithya Raman and her apparent secret plan to bring

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<v Speaker 1>back George Gascon as a LAPD Chief, Debra Mark, live

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<v Speaker 1>in the KFI 24-Hour Newsroom.