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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has told you everything they know.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jnsas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? Hey Dan, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. It's been It hasn't been very long, less

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Speaker 1: than twenty four hours. But um, you know we should

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Speaker 1: start with the elephant in the room, the formal complaint

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Speaker 1: that you've oh, we're gonna do this in the I

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Speaker 1: did lodge a formal complaint in the commissary today. I

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Speaker 1: guess you don't blab formal uh no, and it listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't like doing this. Mark, you're a very good

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Speaker 1: friend of mine. But you know Mark took off Monday,

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Speaker 1: and West backing me up. Actually, anything's off here. Mark

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Speaker 1: took off Monday. Coincidentally, and I'm gonna say coincidentally, Uh

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Speaker 1: the punishment on the New England Patriots drops. So you know,

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Speaker 1: while West, myself and Greg pounding out content, you were

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Speaker 1: wherever you were, we taped an emergency podcast. You couldn't

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Speaker 1: make it. Okay, listen, it was your off day and

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Speaker 1: you're you're entitled to that, you know. Move ahead to

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Speaker 1: today Tuesday, big hammer drop comes from Ted Wells, who

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Speaker 1: hosts a fiery conference call, which we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: a little bit later. Going back at the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's agent, you know, where's Mark Mark again? Now

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Speaker 1: on the clock, but out of out of the office,

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Speaker 1: and where were you? Well, at a dentist appointment. Your

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Speaker 1: teeth do look nice, and I was just noticing, if

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Speaker 1: the NFL is not going to give us an off season,

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Speaker 1: you got to create one on your own. What's your

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Speaker 1: dentist name? That is Dr Peep? I think I believe

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Speaker 1: every one in the room goes to Dr. I don't crt.

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Speaker 1: It sounds a lot like dentist. Wow. Well, your complaint

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Speaker 1: has no no basis and reading well, I'm what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying is, I'm not I form. I lodged the complaint,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean that it can't be explained away

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Speaker 1: and maybe just a note. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm it's fair. Let me point out to details. One.

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Speaker 1: I did not just take a day off yesterday. It

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Speaker 1: of this is that I delayed my doctor Pebo appointment

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Speaker 1: four separate times, dating back to last summer. The first

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Speaker 1: office because someone in here was out with a new baby.

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Speaker 1: So it actually was west breaking news. You know, we

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Speaker 1: all we all, you know, we all in a way

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Speaker 1: I'll take you at your word here. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: I thought, Greg, and I don't want to sound like

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Speaker 1: it out there that it was something I had noticed.

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Speaker 1: That's all. I'm not turning my dentist, I'm not turning

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Speaker 1: my phone over to you over it. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: a big conspiracy theorist. But does anyone think that there

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Speaker 1: are forces behind the movement to ensure that we no

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Speaker 1: longer have off seasons? It's compelling, that is interesting. You're

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Speaker 1: you're saying right now, the NFL and Tom Brady's four

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Speaker 1: games suspension blowing other sports off the front of the

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Speaker 1: still have I believe in websites, web portals. I guess

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Speaker 1: it's the old adage there's there's no such thing as

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Speaker 1: bad pr I'm not gonna unpack what I'm saying, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that what you just said about being on

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Speaker 1: anything else suspicious? You know? Oh? Interns, Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: wait for the report. I've hired an independent investigator. Oh

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Speaker 1: wells is available able? Yeah? You know. Listen, when you

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Speaker 1: are millions of dollars, it's occasionally that HR comes around

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Speaker 1: in that. Listen to this podcast. Yeah, I have it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your honesty. You were fully cooperative in this investigation.

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Speaker 1: know I wouldn't do that. It is a company phone though, actually,

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Speaker 1: so I you know, you might not have a choice.

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Speaker 1: I hope that doesn't make things weird when you and

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Speaker 1: I Mark, we have a lot to get to show.

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Speaker 1: We have our rookie predictions, which we rolled out last week.

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Speaker 1: We broke down UH quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and

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Speaker 1: and impact in year one. So we're gonna share some

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Speaker 1: of our high octane opinions on that matter. Also, we

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Speaker 1: rolled out our annual Projected Starters series today Tuesday, but

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Speaker 1: you could find at NFL dot com slash news. Uh

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Speaker 1: a FC East first one up. So we've got the

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Speaker 1: four teams there. So we'll hit that on some level,

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Speaker 1: right Greg, We'll try to get to it. We might

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Speaker 1: not get to it. I did get a shadowy league figure.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, I gotta come cleaner. Did sit sit

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Speaker 1: me down and say, hey, that show a couple of

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Speaker 1: it happen again. Well, when the word probably a hundred

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Speaker 1: podcast maybe, but the exact quote. Sometimes you gotta cut

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Speaker 1: it's not coming from me, you know. Um up the

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Speaker 1: D how you doing that person off? Next time they

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Speaker 1: try to give you advice, I will not because I

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Speaker 1: like working here TV behind the glass. How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 1: What is going on? Dan? What you're experience in there

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Speaker 1: the local podcast. But yeah, lastly, though, real quick or secondly, um,

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Speaker 1: this more excessive thing, I got a buddy language specialists

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Speaker 1: track him during this upcoming news segment and then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna check back in with you love it all right? Cool,

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Speaker 1: let's do some news before we get Does anyone want

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Speaker 1: a magician on that's fair. But again, I'm gonna the

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Speaker 1: is a guy that he worked with for what three

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Speaker 1: years in New England. Uh, and it wouldn't surprise me

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Speaker 1: at all to see Brian Hoyer as the Week one starter.

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Speaker 1: Looking at Howyer stats by Way stats can lie I guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a big black mark next the yards

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Speaker 1: per completion. That means he led the league in yards

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Speaker 1: per completion Brian. Although he did have what about ten

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Speaker 1: completions a game effected the last five completions, it's not

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Speaker 1: the smallest sample size ever, and he finished with the

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Speaker 1: seven point six yards per attempt. I think he got

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Speaker 1: to look at him by game that should be a

436
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Speaker 1: bolded number next to Kyle Shannahan's name, since he managi

437
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Speaker 1: manufactured all those play action passes down the field. In

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Speaker 1: other Texan news news, they drafted DJ Sweringer, the safety

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Speaker 1: with their second round pick in two thousand thirteen, and

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Speaker 1: they quit on him. They try to trade him for weeks,

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Speaker 1: and when they couldn't find a suitor, they decided to

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Speaker 1: release the safety. Uh, he was right as we came

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Speaker 1: up today we learned that he was then claimed on

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Speaker 1: waivers by the Bucks. So Swearinger two year run. He

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Speaker 1: was a starter for the for the Texans, but really

446
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Speaker 1: struggled both. It sounds like both on the field and

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Speaker 1: maybe off the field. He wasn't a guy that was

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Speaker 1: popular with the front office. He's gone out of Houston,

449
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: looks like his head into Tampa. There's a report out

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Speaker 1: today that he was cut because he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: play special teams or refused to play special teams. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's the only reason. But he seems like

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Speaker 1: our friend at rum for Johnny on Twitter, I asked

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Speaker 1: yesterday there's gotta be more to the story, and he

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Speaker 1: made a good comparison between DJ Swearinger and Brandon Merryweather.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of surprised when the Patriots pulled the

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Speaker 1: plug on Merryweather first round pick. The same thing with Swearinger,

458
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Speaker 1: but they all they both want to just hit people

459
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Speaker 1: instead of tackle, and they you know, they take bad

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Speaker 1: routes to the ball. They're not they're not ideal and coverage,

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Speaker 1: so I think there's some of that where it's just

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Speaker 1: a knuckle hit. One of my favorite uh NFL media

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Speaker 1: acquisitions of the year, Lance's Eerlein, who did a good

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Speaker 1: job and all our draft coverage, he just tweeted really

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Speaker 1: the same thing that he was a box safety. It

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Speaker 1: really wasn't even that good a Tackler just like to

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Speaker 1: make big, splashy hits. It wasn't that good and coverage.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Tomlin loves him. Congratulations Tampa Bay, you got him. Uh,

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Speaker 1: moving on in Dallas. This is from Friday, something I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to touch on. Uh, you know, it's very

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Speaker 1: hot and Muggie and Irving, Texas this time of year.

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Speaker 1: I guess, uh for rookie minicamps. Randy Gregory on the

473
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Speaker 1: same day Dante Fowler unfortunately was lost with the season.

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Speaker 1: NFL Network had eyes on Randy Gregory laboring off the field,

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Speaker 1: being assisted by multiple trainers, dehydrated too much heat and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know greg to me, this is

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Speaker 1: when Randy Gregory is uh bombs out of Dallas in

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Speaker 1: three years, I'll remember that as the exact moment I

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Speaker 1: knew it wasn't gonna work out. Totally unfair. This really

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Speaker 1: got under your skin and it was unfolding on. I've

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Speaker 1: had he's exhaustion. It's no joke. I'm sure it's no joke,

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Speaker 1: but just sometimes forgot about the the fact that it

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Speaker 1: could happen to anyone. Sometimes you just know and mark

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Speaker 1: my words and TD mark this date when Randy Gregory

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Speaker 1: is sent packing from Dallas. Uh, you heard it here first,

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Speaker 1: You're right at the time, Dan was, it just brought

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Speaker 1: out the inner Skip Bayliss in him. He was just

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Speaker 1: like he's done and this is it. They he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a bust. There's no chance for Gregory in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: His face too, and then you know he's afterwards. You

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Speaker 1: know it wasn't a good look. It wasn't a good look.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know Joe McKnight, he famously lost his

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Speaker 1: cookies a number of times when he showed up for

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Speaker 1: that work out. Yeah, a lot of times. These hard

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Speaker 1: knocks things tell you something. Sweringer was a very annoying

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Speaker 1: character when they had the joint practices with the Falcons

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Speaker 1: last year. And listen, West West. You can be dismissive

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Speaker 1: of my analysis, but guess what two years from now,

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Speaker 1: not exactly in professional athlete shape, when I got my

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Speaker 1: heat exhaustion. So I can see where your analysis coming from.

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Speaker 1: Were you in that garage? And I think there may

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Speaker 1: have also been beers involved. And then a long walk

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Speaker 1: on the beach searching for something in a hundred degree

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Speaker 1: weather with a lot of humidity that caused my searching

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Speaker 1: for something physical like a wallet or more. I don't

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Speaker 1: recall like something bigger, metaphysical, metaphysically, no parallel to an

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Speaker 1: athlete on level. Basically no, I was in horrible shape

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Speaker 1: and which is why I suffered from heat exhaustion. I

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Speaker 1: get your analysis. You're total hottie now. So so you're

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Speaker 1: saying Randy Randy. Gregory's preparation for his first NFL practice

511
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Speaker 1: was similar to you drinking twenty beers and a hundred

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Speaker 1: degree heat on the beach. I'm not saying that, but

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Speaker 1: people can draw their own um. And finally, and this

514
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Speaker 1: is just a straight question for greg Tarrell Prior signed

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Speaker 1: with the Bengals UH on May tenth this past weekend,

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Speaker 1: and we did a post on it. When can we

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Speaker 1: stop writing posts about Tarrell Prior signing with teams for

518
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Speaker 1: short amounts, short amounts of time. Never guy moves the needle.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals website thinks he's going to make the team

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Speaker 1: if he's in the NFL, we're writing, we're writing it.

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Speaker 1: He's an interesting quarterback. We write those things. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you're right, he doesn't move the needle. One of the

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Speaker 1: sneaky metrics Bombers of two thousand. Greg's corporate no, but no,

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Speaker 1: in reality, I think he could be the backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: on the Bengals. The Bengals are the rare type of

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Speaker 1: team that just give guys like these real shot. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson, I get them confused all the time. Myself.

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00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: West's hit list starting to get confused. You're like Ted

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Speaker 1: Wells has started investigation into a J McCarron and Josh Johnson.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna come up good. It's gonna open the

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Speaker 1: door for he could win that backup job. Why not?

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Speaker 1: He's Hugh Jackson's boy. Who was it that we thought

533
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Speaker 1: was out of the league and then was a backup

534
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Speaker 1: in since Jason k Jason Campbell, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: and Josh Johnson? Yeah, and I think it was really

536
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Speaker 1: Jess Johnson. And uh, that's what's happening moving forward, all right?

537
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: Really snuck that prior one in there. Sometimes keep you

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Speaker 1: on your toes. You know, it's very important to have

539
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: format instructure, but you also got to know keep it real.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying Mark, I agree with that, Speaking which TV,

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Speaker 1: how was Mark's body language? We get it? You know,

542
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Speaker 1: why don't you bring an expert alongside you to discuss them.

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00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: There are some adversarial body language. When you guys walked

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Speaker 1: into the room, no, I said hello, how are you?

545
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Speaker 1: TV didn't get a chance to see you yesterday. Get

546
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Speaker 1: the shrug off looking away. You just gonna looked at me,

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Speaker 1: just gonna steering in it. That's not see you're How

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Speaker 1: can you be trust like if you're going to a

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Speaker 1: narrative from like twelve, basing off and recreate it to

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Speaker 1: fit your version. We got enough people doing that. Cut

551
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Speaker 1: to Zach Goldman listening to this podcast in a fetal

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Speaker 1: position in the corner in Japan. Don't fight. I can't

553
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Speaker 1: handle this. I do favorite. We're not fighting, alright. So

554
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Speaker 1: last week we rolled out a series we all about

555
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Speaker 1: the rookie class who we thought would fair best in

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Speaker 1: UH and let's start with the quarterbacks. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: through four positions. We'll roll through this UH and UH.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Jamis Winston Winston versus Marcus Mariotta. Greg,

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Speaker 1: you think Winston UH will have a better first season

560
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Speaker 1: the league. I agree with you, as did Mark. UH.

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Speaker 1: Can you explain to us why you believe that Winston

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Speaker 1: is more pro ready right now than does. Everything we

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Speaker 1: heard about him coming into the draft and everything that

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Speaker 1: I've seen, he just sounds like the type of guy

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Speaker 1: who could make a good transition. I could see him

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Speaker 1: having twenty five interceptions, but also twenty five touchdowns. He's

567
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Speaker 1: got a pretty good receiver crew. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: the weapons around him is really why I'm making the argument.

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Speaker 1: It's really just I think he's a better player than Mariotta.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Speaking of he has a bigger he

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Speaker 1: has a less of a hill to climb. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, Bobby Bowden, the former Florida Florida State coach,

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Speaker 1: came out and had this to say about Jamis Winston today.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a consensus among FSU fans and boosters

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Speaker 1: that he was an embarrassment to the university. Bunsen Burner

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Speaker 1: blowtorch right there, if I ever heard him, that's the

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Speaker 1: greatest about in blowtorch ever unnecessary. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: easither About could have laid off that here. I think,

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Speaker 1: there we go. I think Winston has the better year.

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Speaker 1: When you're ready, t d no, I I liked, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can look what happened in Tampa last year. On offense,

582
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Speaker 1: and there were a lot of issues, but they also

583
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Speaker 1: had no offensive coordinator. I mean, the thing couldn't have

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Speaker 1: been any worse for a first time head coach in

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Speaker 1: Tampa would love you to be dealing with that, and

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Speaker 1: I think the whole thing melted. Dirk Cutter is like

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Speaker 1: a good did a good job in Atlanta. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a good fit for Winston, and they've got some

589
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Speaker 1: receivers in there, so that's another advantage versus whoever who

590
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Speaker 1: was calm plays last year? What was his name? Uh Arroyo?

591
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Speaker 1: I liked. I would take Derk Cutter over Ken wizen Hunt.

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Speaker 1: And what's going on in Tennessee West. Where do you

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Speaker 1: come down on this? Did I write this? You did not?

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Speaker 1: You did not say, I don't remember that. I think,

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Speaker 1: like Greg said, Winston is definitely more NFL ready. That

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Speaker 1: helps a lot. I might not have voted for Winston

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Speaker 1: in this category if they hadn't picked up prom of

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Speaker 1: seeing offensive line prospects in the second round, a pair

599
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Speaker 1: of them, which they fan well, I don't know. I

600
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: have no idea if he's good, but they need they

601
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: needed bodies that could block. I mean, they were terrible

602
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Speaker 1: list year. So I think you're counting on two rookies

603
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Speaker 1: to come in, so there could still be growing pains.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would surprise anybody if Winston leads

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Speaker 1: the NFL and interceptions as a rookie. So like peytonn

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Speaker 1: this surprises me, this answer because of the you know,

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Speaker 1: ever growing West erection for the Titans emergence this year. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think like you said that it's a longer climb,

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Speaker 1: steeper climb for Mariotta. He has he's a spread quarterback

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Speaker 1: and he's coming into the NFL, so I like his potential,

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Speaker 1: But as a rookie, I would think that Winston has

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Speaker 1: the edge there, um real quick. Greg was Kevin Patrol

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Speaker 1: drug tested recently that he has Brett Hunley as his

614
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Speaker 1: choice for the Yeah, he tried to be cute. Most

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Speaker 1: successful rookie season. I guess what he was trying to

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Speaker 1: say the other Patrick, You know, I know you used

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Speaker 1: fists in a big spot, but you know how buddy,

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Speaker 1: these guys will the other guys a fall flat on

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Speaker 1: their face, whereas Honley will be learning at the feet

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Speaker 1: of Rogers and McCarthy. That's nice. Maybe he gets in

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Speaker 1: a game or two and looks good Patrick thinking outside

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Speaker 1: the box. Okay, moving on to the running backs. All right,

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Speaker 1: we'll start with Chris Wesley on this. You were involved

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Speaker 1: with this. You chose Melvin Gordon of the San Diego

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Speaker 1: Charge of Sun. Yeah, oh, I forgot that it took

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Speaker 1: part in this, but yeah, oh yeah, you were a

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Speaker 1: big time and part of it. Well, I think this

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Speaker 1: goes back to a friend of mine whom I trust.

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Speaker 1: His scattering point was Melvin Gordon would lead the entire

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Speaker 1: league in rushing if he gets drafted by the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and he has a two thousand yards season in him

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Speaker 1: at some point in his career. So I, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I totally trust this guy. He's the first guy to

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Speaker 1: turn me onto Chris Johnson when he was at East Carolina.

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Speaker 1: So his his word is who is your source? We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this, my boy brand spicer spice rack. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you give me another spice off that rack. It's going

638
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: to be a stud. Also, remember when I went to Vegas. Yes,

639
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: he's the guy who hooked me up with the all

640
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: day I like the nightclub, day club, free free drinks,

641
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: good time, like I can this guy must be a

642
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: genius And I can't imagine anyone else that West just

643
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: takes information from spoon feet and just accepts it's well,

644
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: he's proven to be right enough times, and the fact

645
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: that I don't watch college football myself, so I have

646
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 1: to trust someone else. Okay, alright, I like that. I

647
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: went with Todd Gurley, who uh, who everyone says is

648
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: maybe the biggest stud of this group and has is

649
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: drawing Adrian Peterson comparisons, or at least is the best

650
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: running back to come out of the draft, since Peterson

651
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: now coming back from an a c L. I get

652
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: that that could be lead to them taking the foot

653
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: off the pedal a little bit in St. Louis, But

654
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: I also know that Jeff Fisher likes his job, and

655
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: I know that Jeff Fisher can't go six and six

656
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: and ten again or seven and nine. I think Todd

657
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: Gurley is not going to start the season on the publist.

658
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: I think if he proves that he's healthy, he's playing,

659
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: and I think he'll make an instant impact. And they're

660
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna definitely power that offense through the running game, I think,

661
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: and try to win games with their defense and running game.

662
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley gonna be a monster this year. Gordon and

663
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: Gurley are both good picks. I mean, Gordon definitely has

664
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: less competition Trey Mason. You know, we were going to

665
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: do a re ranking of the running back so I

666
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Speaker 1: might still do that if I have some time this offseason.

667
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: I think Trey Mason would have been my top running

668
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: back from last year other than Jeremy Hill, the number two.

669
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: He would have been my number two rookie. And he

670
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: looked terrific. So you like him more than yes, from

671
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: what we saw I would say on last season, But

672
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: clearly the Rams don't see him as a guy that's

673
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: going to carry the offense. Speaking of outside the box thinkers,

674
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking over at Mark Sessler and he said, you

675
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: take your first round running backs, you can take your

676
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: second round running guys. You stick him right up your butt.

677
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: Because I like Kevin Coleman in Atlanta making an instant impact. Well,

678
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: I mean, when you do these things, you gotta up

679
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: two people. Took Gordon and Gurley gotta go somewhere else

680
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: because you know true, but because it's boring to everyone

681
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: pick the same person. I went cole because I like

682
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: the idea of a rookie running back on a Falcons

683
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: team that with DeVonta Freeman does not have a featured back.

684
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that can come in as

685
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: a change of pace guy Kyle Shanahan. He is in

686
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: the past shown a lot of confidence with rookie runners

687
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: and Houston. Well, well, why why shouldn't it? This is

688
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: excellent analysis by Mark Sessley. Mark, you're doing great. Haven't

689
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: you started it yet? He had Steve Slayton in two

690
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, Alfred Morris two thousand twelve, Slayton was

691
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: a third rounder. Alfred Morris was a six rounder last year.

692
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm leaving. I'm gonna just take the

693
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: headphones off. I got a hundred better things, right, I

694
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: mean West and crow L twelve yards last year. So

695
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: how about you take your girl in your Gordon go

696
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: to town with that. I'm gonna win this thing, the fair.

697
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: It's a strong argument that, oh thanks, Greg's Shanah Hannah Shanahan. Uh,

698
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: somehow propped up Steve Slayton. I wouldn't get I remember

699
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: Steve Slayton one year, the year after there was a

700
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: Fantasy darling. He was a top five fantasy running back pick,

701
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: or top ten at least top ten. Didn't happen in

702
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: year two. That was fifty five percent analysis aggression there, Mark,

703
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: and I liked it. He was getting tackled. I would have,

704
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, unfurled it completely in peace. But I'm getting

705
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: I got it coming out for three different people. You know,

706
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: during it, I was defending three. You're the third right there.

707
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the wide receivers. Great work, mark,

708
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: way to defend your time on society. Uh. And we'll

709
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: start this one with Greg Rosenthal who says, listen to

710
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper, that guy is a stud and I'm gonna

711
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: roll with him. Well, I'm glad I get to jump

712
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: into this one. You didn't even call him t J.

713
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeldon in the running back sea, Hey, it doesn't matter.

714
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: J Yeldon's gonna lead running backs and Amari Cooper for

715
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: a second. The spice rack told me he was three

716
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: years ago, this t J. Yelding guys the best back

717
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: Alabama's ever had. So I asked him again about Yelleding

718
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: right before the draft, and he said I was off

719
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: at him about a year and a half ago. He

720
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: lost his all his Uhtley, don't you wish you had

721
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: the spice racket when you're in the kitchen putting together

722
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: the soup of rookies. You can have your spice Rack.

723
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: I've got Gus Bradley pounding the table to draft this guy.

724
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: Of the table he did. If you read that Mike

725
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: Silver article, he was standing on tables. He's dancing around.

726
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: I need a big back to give the ball twenty

727
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: five times a game too. At DJ Yell, Well, that's

728
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: what we heard last year about someone, isn't it all?

729
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: I'd say, I love Gus Bradley, but he loves every

730
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: player that ever played football. It's fair. So spice Rack

731
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: has seems to have a little bit of you know

732
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: he gets he's talking about. Well, they proved it with

733
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: where they drafted him thirty six overall, where a lot

734
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: of people didn't think he was gonna go. Not a

735
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: flashy guy, kind of a four or five yard at

736
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: a pop type of guy. I like those guys. Greg.

737
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: The wide receiver class, you had a Marii Cooper and

738
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: Jarvis Greenell is Greig's favorite running back. I picked Cooper

739
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: just because I thought he'd get them targets, and everyone

740
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: else had picked Kevin White, So you know, I'm guilty

741
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: of that a little bit. But he just seems like

742
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: the guy everyone said he had the most sophisticated understanding

743
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: of defense is kind of the NFL mind, the NFL routes,

744
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get a hundred thirty targets, so he

745
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: seems like a safe bet for a that Just so

746
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: you know, the four of us in this room, we

747
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: all picked different wide receivers. Really well, I went with

748
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Nelson Agilar from Philly, who's gonna step in into and

749
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: produce immediately in Jeremy Macklin's old role. You know, chip

750
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: Kelly has an eye for talent when it comes to

751
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: wide receivers and really any skill player, so I would

752
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: assume he has a good chance to be a guy

753
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: that goes over a thousand yards and comes close to

754
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns. West, you went with how about that? West?

755
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: Dan given chip Kelly some love? Listen, I'm not I'm

756
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: not like a hada. Okay, there's there's a new parody

757
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: around the NFL account on Twitter. Yeah, the latest one

758
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: is a t N Hot Takes and the guy accused

759
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: you of having a playground love for chip Kelly, like

760
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: you always pushed or throw rocks at the girl you like.

761
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe accurate Wes. You you chose Kevin White as

762
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: your guy, and that seems like a pretty safe pick. Well,

763
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: I find I fell under his spell at the draft.

764
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he was that that charisma just reeled me in.

765
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: I'll believe anything involving Kevin White now, And I felt

766
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: better about it after Dan Pompey, a long time Bears writer,

767
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 1: tweet a series of tweets saying just how dominant Kevin

768
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: White wasn't a rookie mini kid, which I mean, I

769
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: don't know. If you're the point of the off season,

770
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: you're the seventh overall pick, shouldn't you be dominating undrafted rookies? Yeah?

771
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: I did, like though they said at West Virginia he

772
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: was just on one side of the field and already

773
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: in the mini camp. They're moving him inside, they're moving

774
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: him outside. He's a smart, going all over the place,

775
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: smart fellow. He seems like he'd be a more versatile

776
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: guy maybe than Alson Jeffrey. Jeffrey's gonna be agree with

777
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: term Mark you went with. You went with Brashad Perriman

778
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: in Baltimore as your pick for the big breakout rookie. Yeah,

779
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't have any Dan Pompey tweets to to this,

780
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: but uh, listen, I also could be dead wrong. I

781
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: don't know what I don't even remember writing this, but

782
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: it seems solid to me in the sense that you've

783
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: got Steve Smith, and then what else do you got?

784
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: You got Marlon Brown, Michael Companero and alder Grobins. He's

785
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: gonna play, He's gonna play out of the gate. It's

786
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: Mark Trustman's offense. I like we've seen before that Mark

787
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: Trustman can unleash two receivers in one season for big yardage. Now,

788
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: the one thing about this guy they talked, They said

789
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: he has some drops issues, so he's got to get

790
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: that's an issue. Are you Are you at all concerned

791
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: about Paraman big time receding hairline, and yet he wears

792
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: his hair in braids. He's going he's doing well, terrible

793
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 1: luck and that kind of judgment coming into the league.

794
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: He looks like you. You he raised an excellent point,

795
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: But a lot of times rookies after that first rookie season,

796
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: you see them get better haircuts, they start to get

797
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: that act together. So let's give him a little bit

798
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: of time. That's true. Think you've overlooked the obvious here

799
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: that he's going with the boxer rebellion style of hair

800
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: from the turn of the century China. Yes, the obvious.

801
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: Everyone was thinking that he would have jumped in with

802
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: that same point. As Ted has fallen asleep. He can't

803
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: believe what's happening here. He's definitely doing the move where

804
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: you haven't quite accepted it that it's going up top,

805
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: so you go with the braids. He's probably taking some

806
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: heat from friends, and two years from now he'll have

807
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: the m J and everything will be cool. I think

808
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: so too. I mean, he's gonna listen to this podcast

809
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: and be shocked into life about his style in choices. Yeah,

810
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: and then he'll look at our pictures and be like,

811
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: who the are you saying about anyone? Uh? Do we

812
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: cover all the wide receivers. I don't want to leave

813
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: anyone out. We can call Kevin patrov it now that's

814
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: I think that's Kevin White too. Um, alright, coming, I'm

815
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna bypass the defensive players because we gotta keep moving.

816
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: But you don't don't matter of the year, was Dante

817
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: Fowler M I have a feeling that's not gonna well,

818
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: good luck to you with that. The projected starters a series,

819
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, one of, one of, one of my favorite.

820
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: Every year every springtime we guess the start and read it,

821
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Speaker 1: and uh, this time, we're gonna start with the A

822
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: f C East. And you know, Greg, you you you

823
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: handled this task. You wrote the A f C East.

824
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: We're all taking different divisions, and I guess the one

825
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: thing that jumps out. We look at the Patriots side

826
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: off the bat and you look at the starting lineup

827
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: for Week one, and you got Jimmy g a quarterback,

828
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: which is just bizarre. It's like a look into your future.

829
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: And then remember this guy, my name is Jonas Gray,

830
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: as the starting running back in Week one. I had

831
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: to pick someone, and le Garrett Blunt is not a

832
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: very good starting running back either. I don't think he's

833
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: a guy that that was best to use how the

834
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: Patriots have, which is is as a mid season replacement

835
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Speaker 1: or a third guy that will start for four or

836
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Speaker 1: five games at a time. This is the worst running

837
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Speaker 1: back group. I wanted to say, since Antoine Smith was

838
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: their starter when they won the Super but actually I

839
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: went back and looked before I made this statement. There

840
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: was a season two thousand nine where they had Sammy

841
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: Morris as their leading rusher. Mont Jordan's was in the mix.

842
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: Danny Wood had early in his career was also there.

843
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: So that was a pretty ugly group. But this is

844
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: the ugly. I mean, this is a terrible running back group.

845
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Speaker 1: So Jimmy g is not gonna be able to count

846
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: on this running game. I don't think to help him

847
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: out early in this season. And you can't really count

848
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: on the secondary right now either. They got some problems.

849
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: Gregg's sounding just a tad nervous. Yeah, where are you

850
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: at at the peace scale? A lot of people are

851
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: asking me to check in with you on that one

852
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: one being I got to watch I got to watch

853
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: them win the super Bowl in person, their fourth super

854
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: Bowl on the last play of the game of miraculous interest,

855
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: deflating Gregg deflating the front of the podcast. No longer

856
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: wasn't part in the pr pants scale. PS in your

857
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: pants is the question? It's one right now. It's the

858
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: middle of April, they or May. I don't even know

859
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: a month it is. And West wrote about this, But

860
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Patriots fan and you're not

861
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: a guy that's plugged in on every minute, you're at work,

862
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: you maybe check the transit suddenly, like every time you

863
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: look check in there they're dumping a veteran cornerback left

864
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: and right. What's going on with Kyle Arrington released with

865
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: surprising Uh? You know, I wrote the post on it

866
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: yesterday and I look back. T Y Hilton, who we

867
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: all agree is one of the best young wide receivers

868
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: in the league, completely shut down in two games. That's

869
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: what a lot of people think is the Patriots number one. Uh,

870
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, threat and rival, So you get rid of

871
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: that guy. I'm not saying they can't find somebody to

872
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: coach him up to take the same role, but Aaricston

873
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: has been a good slot slot defender for them. That

874
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: perplexed me. And he was benched snaps last year and

875
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: he was due to count way over four million against

876
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: the salary cap, right, so that makes sense. But just

877
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: the fact that he had been so effective against Hilton

878
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: really matched him up one on the whole first game,

879
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: and I have fifteen other games they have to well,

880
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: do you have played forty though? When you lose Darrell

881
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: Revus and a bunch of others. He's had some He's

882
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: he's had some success against other high end slot receivers.

883
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: He can play the benched in the Super Bowl. The

884
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: thing that so did Logan Ryan, who was now their

885
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: number one corner. I guess I think they really do

886
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: love Malcolm Butler. I think he's going to be I

887
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: think they like Bradley Fletcher they signed, they signed Robert McClain.

888
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: But they have had to win games despite a poor

889
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: secondary for most of the last ten years, and now

890
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: they're going to have to do it again. But I

891
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: think the thing with Revis that was so nice, they

892
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: got to be creative with all this talent they have

893
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: up front. I don't know if they're going to be

894
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: able to do that anymore with these guys that did

895
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: you bench to put Nankovic in there, I just put

896
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: one defensive tackle, which was Malcolm Brown, So basically I

897
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: had branch and so you switched them from a four

898
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: three to three. Well, I made him a three three three,

899
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: three four or four yeah, whatever, Just get their best

900
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: players into the Yeah. I just like when Jerrymander the

901
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: process we moved to the Buffalo Bills where and now

902
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: you look at this. Now, let's let's try to ignore

903
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Matt Castle not doesn't not too sexy. But

904
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy Samy Watkins, Percy Harvin, Robert Woods, Charles Clay.

905
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Those are some nice starters they get in. We've talked

906
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: about this, and even decent play from Mattie Boy Castle. Uh,

907
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: they can win some games with that offense or put

908
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: up some points at least. Very good left tackle too,

909
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: and Corty Glenn and you know they brought in Richie incognito.

910
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: That's not a great thing, but I think that Castle

911
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: is a pretty safe bet for the starting was the

912
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: one thing that jumps out to me is that you

913
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: have matt Castle over Tyrod Taylor. Oh my gosh. Well,

914
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: they seem to want they're gonna use Taylor in some way.

915
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: I think, I really do think Tyrod Taylor is gonna start.

916
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: I think Manuel has a better chance than Taylor just

917
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: because he's a first round pick, and I'm not you know,

918
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: there's a check absolutely loves Tyrod Taylor. Well I want

919
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: to see where he's down there too. And Kyle Wilson,

920
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean they're going to be good. And

921
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: John Harbought like he doesn't go out and talk ill

922
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: of his plays, but he actually on separate occasions more

923
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: than once said that Tyrod Taylor was never lived up

924
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: to the promise and never worked hard enough. So we'll

925
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: see where Rex is with him. By well, yeah, I

926
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: mean I think you should compare John Harborholl's comments about

927
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor too, Rex Ryan's comments about Tyrod Taylor. That's

928
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan spending no time with Tyrod Taylor. Let's

929
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: just I want to see where they are come August

930
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: topped about him. They had the fewest holes in the division.

931
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: I think probably have one of the best starting lineups

932
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball of any team, and

933
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: only what they don't have is basically a third linebacker.

934
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: But if that's the biggest problem that you can come

935
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: up with, then that's that's pretty good. Uh. Moving on

936
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins, I'm gonna start greg with the defensive

937
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: side of the ball, where you have a great defensive

938
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: line Cameron Wake, of course, Dominican, Sue Earl, Mitchell, Olivier, Vernon.

939
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: But then it starts to thin out a little bit

940
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: in terms of a starting where be worried about, uh,

941
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: the defense maybe not being as good as people think

942
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: it can be, just because they don't have enough big

943
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: time players outside that line, they had Tim Gay bean holes,

944
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: which I had really didn't thought about before I looked

945
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: at co Co Amici. He's okay at inside linebacker, and

946
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: you have Jollanni Jenkins outside. After that, your battle for

947
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: your next linebacker spot is Spencer Passenger, who's been a

948
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: special teamer and uh now I'm forgetting the name that

949
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: uh hammer and Hank was really pumping him up as

950
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: as a possible possible pick. Doesn't matter who was, I'll

951
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: think of it. Face. Uh, Chris McCain. These guys who

952
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: he had forty six snaps last year exactly, so you

953
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: have got no one's You don't have a third linebacker spot.

954
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: And then, more importantly, at cornerback after Brent Gimes, you've

955
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: got nothing. You have two guys he drafted in two

956
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: thousand thirteen, Will Davis and Jamar Taylor who have been

957
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: poor or injured since they've been in the league. That

958
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: that's an ugly looking line cornerback group. Why is Jervis

959
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: Landry the number one receive I just decided I think

960
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: he's the number one receiver on that team. Probably right,

961
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: they never leaves the slot, they don't, don't. I think

962
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: they will have him moving around. Uh, Sandwich, Carl Sandwich

963
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: on that one. I think he'll end up leaving leading

964
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: the team in snaps. And that's basically how I took it.

965
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: The guy doesn't leave the slot unless he's lining up

966
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: in the backfield and they're doing trick plays. Moving on

967
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: to the Jets, Greg, you have Geno Smith winning the

968
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: starting job. Uh. You have Letter Williams of the number

969
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: six overall pick. When you have at least the starters,

970
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: he's not uh, starting with Mohammed Wilkerson, Damon Harrison, and

971
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: Sheldon Richards in there. That goes back to Todd Bowls

972
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: likes to run a three four. But my question is,

973
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: is Bowls gonna change his style or some things he's

974
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: comfortable with too to be able to get all these

975
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: guys on the field at the same time more. Yeah,

976
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: I would, you would, hope. So I'm sure he will.

977
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: And Williams wants to play on the outside, but he

978
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: might be playing more inside. And the Jets have a

979
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: similar problem to what they've had before. They have this

980
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: same old, boring outside linebacker group of Pace and Coples

981
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: and Jason Babin. So you're gonna have to get your

982
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: pastors from the big guys. I think that what Bulls

983
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: did last year with the Cardinals is instructive. He was

984
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: running a three or four defense, But whenever they play

985
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: a great running back like a DeMarco Murray, they would

986
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: play mostly four three that game. And I think that

987
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: goes into Leonard Williams election to at this point three

988
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: four four three most It doesn't really matter. But they

989
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: were the only team not a single rookie I had

990
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: as a starter, because I had Devin Smith as more

991
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: of a number four, just go deep type of guy,

992
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: and Jeremy Curley hold on to that third third receiver role.

993
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: Some decent names, you know, I didn't make this look.

994
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: Greg Jennings, for instance, didn't make it for the Dolphins.

995
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have him as one of the top three.

996
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: I decided to benchually otis Mcalvin coming off an ankle

997
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: to do? Why not some tough decisions by Greg Rose

998
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: Greg playing god with the a f C's all right,

999
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: So that's it. We're gonna continue to run through all

1000
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: the divisions and might even talk about some of them

1001
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: on this very podcast. Uh that's a TD behind the glass.

1002
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: You you sent me and I am during the show

1003
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: that you had some type of scorecard that you're working out.

1004
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: Is this is this going to lead to more contentious

1005
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: behavior between you and the rest of us? Be carefully, really,

1006
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm just was keeping you guys on your toes. You know,

1007
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: like a game, whether you win or you lose, it's

1008
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: like a performance. How did you How did you guys

1009
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: do individually? You know, it's a good show. How do

1010
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: you guys do individually? I figured, you know, and then

1011
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: each sharks sort of give a little hot takee eat, Yeah,

1012
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: how you guys if it's if it's see, we'll see,

1013
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: We'll see. I'm chopping. Um, so yeah, I was gonna

1014
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: run through all four, but I was like, now I'm

1015
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: just gonna give the winner shout out as opposed to

1016
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: going from four through one, because now you should say

1017
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: who came in. I don't want to don't arbitrary rankings.

1018
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: I don't want Mark to get mad at me, That's

1019
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Oh no, um, that's real quickly. Not

1020
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: on his body language, though you always seem like you

1021
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: were tilted to the side, like you're ready to leave.

1022
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: Kind of shady. I don't know, but that might be

1023
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: accurate real quick. But the winner of today's show. The

1024
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: best performance, I should say is my main man West.

1025
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 1: It was very revere link today Today's show spoke about

1026
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: his heat exhaustion, which is, you know, you really deep sources.

1027
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's the only one of you guys that

1028
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: had sources a spice rack, I mean with a name,

1029
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: and then uh is a bartender in Las Vegas and

1030
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: you still got a source. You're a ridiculous person. And

1031
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: he bought a content that could be he brought up

1032
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: something that could be potentially a new content. He brought

1033
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: up that he might becoming a Jack Wars fan. I mean,

1034
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 1: that's interesting. That's new content, you know, for what where?

1035
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: Maybe if he comes to Jacks fan. You know, that's

1036
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 1: something we can do well holding on. That's good. Thank you, TD,

1037
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: And I might not add whoever your hamber dasher is

1038
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: has done an excellent job for you. Thank you right here.

1039
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: I like this segment though, Are you gravitating thank you

1040
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: your self? Are you? Are you gravitating towards West? Because

1041
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: your boy DJ just took off for a month after

1042
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: the Draft stand. You have another shot of the make show.

1043
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: By the way, show all this, But you know, I

1044
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: think DJ does a great job. But you see us

1045
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: taking a month off after the draft, and where's the

1046
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: coaches show? Billick is on some island somewhere far away

1047
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: from the ball and Chaine. He's throwing a great beard.

1048
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: I saw him yesterday. Well, this might be why TD

1049
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: loves these shows, because if it weren't for us, he

1050
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: would be home himself. Right now, TD, move the sticks,

1051
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: more like, move that podcast off your phone. It's not

1052
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: even gonna be around for a while. I mean, oh, man, hey, hey, hey, hey,

1053
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: t D. I didn't think you could do worse after

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Speaker 1: your Jimmy caaroppolo spelling thing from yesterday out and you

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Speaker 1: manage it. It's true, t remember like a group of

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Speaker 1: old people. Yeah, exactly. We will. We will be back

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Speaker 1: on Thursday with the return of the great Lindsay Rhodes.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do all NFL news. We're gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the NFL Network Top one hundred, which

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Speaker 1: Lindsay hosts quite spearheads. Spearheads even quite well. And so

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Speaker 1: Lindsay will sit in with the whole group, the five

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Speaker 1: of us, because t D, you know, when he's not

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Speaker 1: making a name list, is getting headsets. Fifth headset. It

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Speaker 1: was a long process, but it's here. It's here. Five

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Speaker 1: mics like the source, maybe very good, so we'll have that.

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Speaker 1: So thank you as always for listening. Uh this Dan

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Speaker 1: Hansas signing off for a quiet storm, the Mailman, the

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Speaker 1: Boss and t D behind the glass until Thursday