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Speaker 4: Ran track and field as well, and we were like

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Speaker 4: super duper young you know, we played football all the

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Speaker 4: one thing all year round. And I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of kids burn They burned out? Do you just telling them, dude,

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Speaker 4: just okay, I'm gonna just do this one all year round.

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Speaker 4: I'm just playing basketball, or just play volleyball, or just

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Speaker 3: All year round.

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Speaker 4: You burn out, you know at twenty two, twenty three,

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Speaker 4: I don't even want to play no more.

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Speaker 2: did my son's gone through that with basketball? Just there's

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Speaker 2: he did play all those sports kind of growing up.

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Speaker 2: But you know, everybody said, you know, you got to

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Speaker 2: If you're not working on it, does it help you

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Speaker 2: high school coaches they don't mandate it, but they sort

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Speaker 2: of mandate it. But it's also how the high school

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Speaker 2: And there's definitely and basketball into baseball. I remember my

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Speaker 2: because with every practice I'm missing an opportunity to be

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Speaker 2: good at basketball. Do I think playing all those sports important?

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Speaker 2: Big Three, and the Big Three is back. It starts

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Speaker 3: Cube. How are you hey?

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Speaker 5: What's up, Doug?

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Speaker 6: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: What's it like like you've been as ingrained with these

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Speaker 2: many of them playing for you, but we have an

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals that's kind of devoid of those big traditional names.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can even tell in the sound of

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Speaker 6: Without a doubt. You know, the finals, expect to see,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of my point, which is, it's

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Speaker 3: What's it like?

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Speaker 2: It feels like again outsider looking in, it feels like, now,

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Speaker 2: are you guys asking as much or more selecting?

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Speaker 3: In the Big Three, no question.

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Speaker 2: But you do ask some huge names, right Dwight, Howard, Kemba,

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Speaker 6: But I'm also Michael Beesy's the MVP, Joe Johnson three

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Speaker 2: It is crazy, like I'm forty nine and Joe Johnson

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Speaker 2: You got Joe Johnson, and you talk about Michael Beasley

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Speaker 2: You know, you guys have been doing this for a minute.

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Speaker 2: No, they are, they are starting to realize it, right,

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Speaker 2: So why do you think in your mind? Why do

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Speaker 2: we get ready. June fourteenth, All State Arena and on

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Speaker 2: CBS Advice, It's another season of the Big Three, Dwight

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Speaker 2: No, some summer hoops with stars that you know, and

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Speaker 2: Meet easy anytime in the things in your life. Jay

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and then Friday was like Friday was our

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Speaker 8: No, not Jeff Daniels anyway. Big Lebowski.

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Speaker 9: The thing about The Big Lebowski is the dude, the

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Speaker 10: It's breaking news, but I don't know if it's surprising news.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Aaron Rodgers, out of the darkness, retreat and into

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Speaker 8: That very predictable. That's my emotion, that's your emotion.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that you will have people say one hundred different

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Speaker 2: on that schedule for the Pittsburgh Steelers, which feel very

439
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Speaker 2: delicious to take a bite out of. Actually three ye

440
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Speaker 2: three games they opened the season in New York or

441
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Speaker 2: in Jersey against the Jets. The fourth, fourth game of

442
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Speaker 2: the season is in Pittsburgh against the Vikings, and uh

443
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Speaker 2: after the bye week, in a couple more games, right,

444
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: I think they're in this game seven week eight Sunday

445
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Speaker 2: night football. They take on their.

446
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Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers, Great Bay Packers.

447
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Speaker 2: H So whether or not the Steelers win or lose

448
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: doesn't matter to any of us, and definitely doesn't matter

449
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Speaker 2: to the NFL. The NFL won today, kids, They won today,

450
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Speaker 2: and they won today in no small part because look

451
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Speaker 2: at the games. CBS gets the Jets game. I think

452
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Speaker 2: that game, the uh oh, the Vikings game is not

453
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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.

454
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Speaker 3: Right, it's somewhere else, Dublin Island.

455
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Speaker 2: Game is Ireland. And so the NFL network wins on

456
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Speaker 2: that one. And why is it it's won because that's

457
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Speaker 2: the Vikings, the team that he reportedly wonted to play

458
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Speaker 2: for right and then the Packers is NBC. Everybody wins.

459
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Speaker 2: Everybody wins. Buyer your reaction as a native Wisconsin but

460
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Speaker 2: also somebody who has never been a big Rogers guy.

461
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's about time, like he needs to be in.

462
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 10: He needs for the betterment of the team. This shouldn't

463
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Speaker 10: have gone. It shouldn't go up to training camp. It

464
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Speaker 10: shouldn't be one of those things. I thought he should

465
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Speaker 10: have been there prior. I think he should have been

466
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Speaker 10: there these last couple of weeks. I know he has

467
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Speaker 10: done throwing sessions, but I at least will give him

468
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Speaker 10: a tip of the cap to be like, all right,

469
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Speaker 10: let's see it, let's do work. And he's going to

470
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Speaker 10: be doing work in June.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. Have I won you over Jays too? Because

472
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Speaker 2: you are a guy that searches for great content. Let

473
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Speaker 2: me ask Dan Dakich. The show is called Don't at

474
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Speaker 2: Me Double d Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers not official

475
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Speaker 2: but Twitter official. What's your reaction?

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Speaker 5: Hello?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Dan?

478
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 5: Hey, what's up, buddy? I didn't hear it.

479
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Speaker 3: Daniel live? Hey Dan, you're live on national radio. How

480
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: are you good for me?

481
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Speaker 5: In the nation? My phone kept connecting to my car

482
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: and I'm in my house. Weird stuff. What's going on

483
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 5: with Douglas?

484
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: Hey, Aaron Rodgers reportedly gonna become a Pittsburgh Steeler?

485
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Speaker 3: What do you think?

486
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Speaker 5: Oh? I think it had to happen, right? Do you

487
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 5: know this? You always you always get jobs before they're announced.

488
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: And everything seemed way too obvious that he was going

489
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Speaker 5: to go there. What is Steelers going to do? No

490
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Speaker 5: matter what Donald Trump says, Mason Rudolph is not the

491
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Speaker 5: answer to anything but a good looking guy with a

492
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Speaker 5: good mustache. Good for him. It looks like he'll be

493
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Speaker 5: there for Minny Camp. So good. I was hoping the

494
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Speaker 5: Colts would get him now that Anthony Richardson is once

495
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Speaker 5: again hurt, But he doesn't. He goes into Steelers, and

496
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Speaker 5: I think that was pretty obvious.

497
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Speaker 3: Let's get to basketball obviously.

498
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Speaker 2: You know, as a former head coach, longtime basketball analist,

499
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Speaker 2: are there you cover all things. If you were describe

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Speaker 2: the Pacers run to the finals, what would it be?

501
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Speaker 5: I was gonna say predictable because of how they played

502
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Speaker 5: the second half of the season. People don't really understand

503
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: they've been I think they're the best record tied with

504
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Speaker 5: maybe Cleveland in it in the East second half of

505
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Speaker 5: the season. And here's why. I don't know if it's

506
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Speaker 5: predictable to go to the finals, you haven't gone in

507
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Speaker 5: twenty five years, but unsurprising, let's put it that way.

508
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 5: The people that paid attention because they Doug you know this.

509
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 5: I know, I saw something the other day. You know,

510
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 5: you got to go through hard times, I think is

511
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Speaker 5: what you guys put out on Twitter and the Pacers did.

512
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 5: Haliburton was terrible early in the year. He admitted he

513
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 5: was terrible. He was soft, he wasn't guarding. And you

514
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 5: know when you go through hard times and then all

515
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Speaker 5: of a sudden, since January first, you're playing as good

516
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Speaker 5: as basketball as there is in Your point guard's going

517
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 5: nine point eight to one and a half, assist the turnovers,

518
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Speaker 5: and you have real talent on the team. All that

519
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 5: stuff is good. If you don't have real talent, it

520
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 5: doesn't matter. But they got real talent. Seopkin is a

521
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 5: real dude. Nemhart, you know, is seen as a guy

522
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 5: that's tough, but he's a perfect fit guy. And Nei

523
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Speaker 5: Smith is way better than anybody gives him credit for.

524
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Speaker 5: I think people are seeing it so I would have said,

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Speaker 5: you know, not surprising, maybe not predictable. This is a

526
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Speaker 5: good basketball team, and they've played very very They play

527
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Speaker 5: as well as any NBA team second half of the season,

528
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Speaker 5: and isn't that what matters? You know, first half of

529
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Speaker 5: the season is great, but you know, it's pretty big

530
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Speaker 5: sample size since January one, and they've been very, very good.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think Haliburton has these games where he's

532
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Speaker 2: just a guy out there?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, Doug. It's frustrating. You know, you look

534
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 5: at the numbers. Just if he just took the numbers

535
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: and then their losses, he's eight point six assists. In

536
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 5: their wins, he's thirty two or fifteen. You know, it was,

537
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: honest to god, it's frustrating because Doug, you know, point guard,

538
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 5: you know this better thaname Hony point guard said other people.

539
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 5: But he's asked to score, and he would do this constantly.

540
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 5: In both of the games where he was just a guy,

541
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Speaker 5: he would go down the lane and as he was

542
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Speaker 5: clearing the perimeter into the lane, you know, he's got

543
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: a nice float game, he's got a nice pull up game.

544
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 5: He was not looking to score, he was looking to pass.

545
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 5: And the pass outs weren't an advantation advantageous pass out.

546
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 5: You know. It was almost like Doug, I swear to god,

547
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: it was almost like he had scripted in his own money.

548
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 5: I'm not scoring today, Like, okay, great, but that's that's

549
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 5: not good. He's got to be a dude. I got

550
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: to be a real dude and score first past second

551
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Speaker 5: when he gets past the perimeter defense. It's frustrating as hell.

552
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: The why he passed up so many shots that he

553
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 5: is so good at in the two games where he

554
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 5: was bad and he can't be bad in this series.

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Speaker 5: He's bad in the game, Pacers are going to lose. No,

556
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 5: not to be fifteen to Zip. It's funny he went

557
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Speaker 5: thirty two points fifteen the Zip assist the turnovers XE

558
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: was Isaiah Thomas, you know, the Detroit Isaiah Thomas. And

559
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: you ever do that? He's like, no, no, you know,

560
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 5: nobody does that. You don't have to be that guy

561
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Speaker 5: every night. But he can have a couple of games

562
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Speaker 5: like he had that New York Shires and just as

563
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Speaker 5: you said, another.

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Speaker 2: Guy, yeah Dan docas Joni us don't at me on

565
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Speaker 2: OutKick is his show. He joins me on the Doug

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Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. You've been at this

567
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Speaker 2: long time player, coach now broadcaster Rick Carlisle. What what

568
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Speaker 2: makes him special?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Talking to Scott Pollard, who played you a long

570
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Speaker 5: time in the NBA, played for Rick first time, right,

571
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Speaker 5: he made an interesting point and that Mark Boyle, the

572
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Speaker 5: voice of the Paciers, said the same thing. When he

573
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Speaker 5: was first here. He was very controlling. He was very

574
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Speaker 5: eight seconds everybody got to look over him. Run the play.

575
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Speaker 5: He didn't run the playwright. You're coming out that kind

576
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Speaker 5: of thing, And I think like players and most coaches

577
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Speaker 5: do this. You know, you're trying to improve all the time.

578
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 5: Most people try to do that. And I really believe

579
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Speaker 5: that he learned, and I've heard this from other people

580
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Speaker 5: that know Rick, that he learned. Okay, let's make sure

581
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Speaker 5: that we adapt on two areas. One, the way the

582
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 5: game is being played now. You know it's a more

583
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 5: open game, three point shooting. You got to adapt to that.

584
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: And then the second thing is adapt to the people

585
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Speaker 5: that we have and anybody that has that, I've talked

586
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Speaker 5: to it. I've talked to people inside the organization and

587
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: in others they say he's done an amazing job. At that.

588
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: You know, when he had Dirk, he set things up

589
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Speaker 5: for Dirk, and if you think about it, you know

590
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Speaker 5: he set a defensive strategy. He know as an offensive coach,

591
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 5: but he's had a defensive strategy that beat Lebron and

592
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: those guys you know back in the day with Dirk

593
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 5: Novinsky and an older Jason Kidd. And I think that's

594
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 5: a big part of it. I think that that championship

595
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 5: earned him the trust. And I also think this Doug.

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Speaker 5: I think when you look at organizations and you look

597
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 5: at the Pacers, the ownership, the signmon's very stable, whether

598
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 5: it's you know, Herb or the Sons and Mels passed away,

599
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 5: but Herb or the Sons, and then you look at

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Speaker 5: Kevin Pritchard and Chad Buchanan the president and general manager,

601
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 5: they're all in line. There's no drama, zero and you

602
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: got a mature adult in the room with a proven

603
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 5: pedigree in Rick Carlile. The whole thing is straight down

604
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: the line. There's no wavering, there's no yap, but there's

605
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: no drama. There's literally no drama. And they don't have

606
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 5: choir boys. Nobody does, but they have no drama on

607
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: their team. Man and everybody tells me a lot of

608
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 5: that's due to the straight line. You just go straight

609
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 5: down from Herb Simon and the Sons to Pritchard to

610
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: Buchanan to Carlisle Halliburton. They're all kind of everybody's on

611
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 5: the same page, Doug, everybody's pulling in the same direction.

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Speaker 3: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sport Traito.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you have an Indiana senator on earlier this week

614
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Speaker 2: talking about Angel?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jim Banks. People in India are little pissed at

616
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 5: the Fever and a third time that what's her name?

617
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: Angel Reese and her crew have accused falsely Fever fans

618
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Speaker 5: of being racist, and no one's stepping up for Fever fans,

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Speaker 5: and Jim Banks said, look, we're own an apology by somebody.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Fever haven't apologized to their fans. The

621
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Speaker 5: NBA or the WNBA hasn't said anything other than yeah,

622
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Speaker 5: we didn't find anything to substantiate it. And I got friends.

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Speaker 5: This really hit me. I got friend he said, Dad,

624
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Speaker 5: I was sitting in the area. He there wasn't a

625
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 5: word said racist because we had African American Ussians. You

626
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 5: think they're going to take that, you think, And he said, like,

627
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Speaker 5: I spent twenty five thirty five thousand dollars a year

628
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 5: bring my daughter to game, by season tickets, by all

629
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Speaker 5: this stuff. I spent a blank ton of money. And

630
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Speaker 5: he's like, you know, now you're known as a racist

631
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Speaker 5: person because the Fever don't ever say, hey, this isn't

632
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Speaker 5: our fan base could We don't condone being accused of

633
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: something the WNBA. I don't expect Angel Reese to apologize,

634
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 5: but our team should. It's ridiculous. And uh, it's the

635
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: third time, and you know enough enough. You know you

636
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 5: know this. Everybody knows this. Somebody's trying to say nonsense

637
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 5: about you. The only way to stop it is to

638
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 5: confront it. And uh, been disappointed as hell in them,

639
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 5: been disappointed in the leadership in Jim Banks State Senator said,

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Speaker 5: you know what, I stand with our people. We're on apology,

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00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: and I agree with it. I totally agree with him.

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00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 5: Jim Banks a good guy. Obviously there's more important things,

643
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Speaker 5: you know, but he's on my show, a sports show,

644
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Speaker 5: so we're going to talk about it, you know, So

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Speaker 5: good for him, man, he stood up for the people

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Speaker 5: of Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Well, I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my first thing is, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it was Angel Reese's people is here's the biggest issue

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Speaker 2: I have is why do so many pay attention to

651
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Speaker 2: people who don't matter onto it? What I mean again,

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Speaker 2: there's there's some common sense there. Like I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that there's not people who are racist in the state

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Speaker 2: of Indiana. I mean again, percentage wise, you know, even

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Speaker 2: if it's half of one percent, that there's still that's

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Speaker 2: a number of people. But the likelihood of them attending

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Speaker 2: a fever game, right and only doing this with Angel Reese,

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Speaker 2: and it's because you picked it up when you're watching

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Speaker 2: a highlight on social media. It's just again, I just

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Speaker 2: I'm blown away by how many people care about people

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Speaker 2: we shouldn't care about.

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Speaker 5: Doug. If you go to a fever game, which I have, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's all little girls, their moms, their dads. I mean,

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Speaker 5: this is not a Boston Celtics against the Lakers crowd

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Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty six. I mean it's like, you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's dressing a Caitlin Clark yellow, whether it's Iowa,

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Speaker 5: whether it's the fever. And a couple of my actually

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Speaker 5: two of my buddies that sat in the area go,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the hell you know, you can

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Speaker 5: make something up out of anything. In fact, the initial

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Speaker 5: thought was they were talking about people booing when Angel

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Speaker 5: Reies got the ball, like you know, people doing college

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Speaker 5: basketball all the time. But I'm with you, brother, you

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Speaker 5: know you here's the problem. You make an allegation. And

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Speaker 5: Google's great in some areas, but Google sucks in other

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Speaker 5: areas because if you, you know, you look up Fever fans,

677
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Speaker 5: you're gonna see allegations of racist and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 5: And it's one of those deals. Doug wars, it's enough

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Speaker 5: enough enough. You did it once, you did it twice.

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Speaker 5: That's third time. And Angel Reese and the Chicago Sky

681
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 5: have been shown to be liars. I mean they lied

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Speaker 5: last year and the video came out. They said they

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Speaker 5: were not allowed in a hotel room because of racist people.

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Speaker 5: It was one guy asking the question of Kennedy Carter

685
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Speaker 5: who cheap shot at Angel Reese. One guy was out

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Speaker 5: there with a camera phony said, hey, have you talked

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Speaker 5: to Angel Reason And they don't reees and excuse me,

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00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 5: have you talked to Caitlin Clark? And in angel reason.

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Speaker 5: You know they came out, Well, we were accosted. We

690
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 5: couldn't get in to the point where the Chicago Sky

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Speaker 5: general manager saying no, that didn't happen, and the evidence

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Speaker 5: proved it didn't. It's it's enough, you know, it's like

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Speaker 5: your kids. Enough, I'm listening to nonsense. I'll take you, but.

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Speaker 2: Enough and well again, the biggest issue is again I

695
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: agree it's enough, but it's also it's like, it's the

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Speaker 2: point you made previously in regards to Google, like there's

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Speaker 2: no real way to put the genie back in the bottle.

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00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: And you call people racists and you call fan base racist.

699
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: You're like, what, just because I'm white doesn't And I

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Speaker 2: don't like you as a basketball player because you play

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Speaker 2: for a different team, Well maybe I don't like your persona.

702
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Speaker 2: It's not because you're blacking. You labeled me a racist, Like,

703
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Speaker 2: how am I supposed to defend myself against that?

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Speaker 3: I'm not a racist?

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Speaker 5: That's why I know. That's why, that's why I like

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Speaker 5: what Jim Banks did because at least now somebody's defending

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Speaker 5: you know. And again, defending doesn't erase it, don't get

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Speaker 5: me wrong, I mean defending you know, is after the fact.

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Speaker 5: And to your point, the genie doesn't go back in

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Speaker 5: the bottle. Google is forever. But having said that, your

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Speaker 5: only repercussion, or you can sit there and do what

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Speaker 5: the fever did, which you say, well, you know, we're

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Speaker 5: there's no place for you know this kind of TOI

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Speaker 5: you know, and we couldn't substantial It ain't say it

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Speaker 5: didn't happen, but every account it did not happen. But

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Speaker 5: I think everybody's so afraid to stand up. I think

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Speaker 5: everybody's so afraid to stand up to the old school

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Speaker 5: guard of the w NBA out of fear that they'll

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Speaker 5: be called racist for denying something I don't know's it's

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Speaker 5: the oddest thing in America. The WNBA, in my opinion,

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Speaker 5: has shown itself to be exactly what it is, which

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Speaker 5: is a racist, sexist mess. And screw them. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they attacked Mike Town one too many times. Jim Banks

724
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Speaker 5: is sitting one too many times, and we're going to

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Speaker 5: fight back. Screw them.

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Speaker 3: Dan Docketts. The show is called Don't At Me. It's

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Speaker 3: on OutKick dot com.

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Speaker 2: You can check it on social media's well, of course,

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Speaker 2: long time basketball coach and uh uh basketball analysts and

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Speaker 2: national What.

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Speaker 5: Do you give me your prediction? What do you got

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Speaker 5: who wins? I think the Thunder win everybody.

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Speaker 2: I just I just again, like what is the you

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Speaker 2: know so much? It's about matchup strength and strength. Pacers

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Speaker 2: have great depth, so to the Thunder. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: that Haliburton's tremendous, but Shay is more consistent.

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Speaker 3: I do think Siakam.

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Speaker 2: Is a special, special player and more consistent than Jalen Williams.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, you know, and maybe it's the

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Speaker 2: style they play. He's not always emphasized in what they do.

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Speaker 2: And I get my fear of the Thunder is well.

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Speaker 2: I think for most people was older team, veteran team

744
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Speaker 2: to get thrown around a little bit, kind of what

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Speaker 2: what Denver did to him before Denver was banged up.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that's the Pacers. So uh, you

747
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Speaker 2: know the one, the one, and and like look, PACER's

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Speaker 2: great home court advantage, so does Oklahoma City great.

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Speaker 3: So yes, no question, two good ones.

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Speaker 2: I Actually I think it's gonna be a fun series

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Speaker 2: to watch because both teams play fast and open and

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Speaker 2: free and you know, it's not Iso ball, it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's not thuggery ball.

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Speaker 3: But but I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think America will watch it that much because the

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Speaker 2: names and the teams and the brands of the players themselves.

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Speaker 5: As I tell people at my age, I'm looking for

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Speaker 5: stuff to do, and my big fat ass is going

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Speaker 5: to be sitting in front of a TV at a

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Speaker 5: thirty fruit from my team and I can't wait. How

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Speaker 5: about that? All right?

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Speaker 3: Thanks?

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Speaker 2: of Game one of the NBA Finals upcoming.

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Speaker 3: What a game, what a life? Right? I was watching

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Speaker 3: the last.

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Speaker 2: Night's game, and it's kind of fascinating to watch right

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Speaker 2: where you're you're watching and you're like, it's not really

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00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: that close a basketball game. But the the Pacers. Here's

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Speaker 2: the cliche. They do what they do, right. That's like

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Speaker 2: the worst worst cliche ever, But in this particular case,

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Speaker 2: it actually makes sense they do what they do. The

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Speaker 2: other thing that's crazy about the game is that Tyrese Haliburton,

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Speaker 2: he's just kind of a guy. Most of the game,

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Speaker 2: he really didn't do much, but then he hits the

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Speaker 2: game winner, and holy cow, Tyrese Halliburton. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: what are we gonna do there? The final score is

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Speaker 2: one eleven to one ten. Haliburton hits the game winner

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Speaker 2: with point three seconds to go as they rallied from

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Speaker 2: ore they down fifteen in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: It's craziness, craziness.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I want to do. Like we can do

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Speaker 2: the formatic radio show, or I Killed the Grass with

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Speaker 2: the big hot take and then we take calls or something,

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Speaker 2: or we can just talk. I'll give you something I

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Speaker 2: saw that's kind of interesting here. Okay, so I love

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Speaker 2: Alex Crusoe. We do know why Alex Crusoe has bounced

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Speaker 2: around the league and had to earn his way into

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Speaker 2: league from the G League before becoming such a gigantic

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Speaker 2: part of the Oklahoma City Thunder. It's it's like the

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Speaker 2: do you remember.

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Speaker 3: What election was?

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Speaker 2: It was it when Clinton won where it's it's the

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Speaker 2: economy stupid? Right when George when George H. W. Bush

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Speaker 2: lost to Bill Clinton, the line was it's the economy stupid.

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Speaker 2: Like to me, it's the it's the shooting stupid right

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Speaker 2: that as much as he's become a a consummate professional,

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Speaker 2: a very good shoot, a very good player, he checks

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Speaker 2: back into the game for Cason Wallace ninety four, ninety nine,

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Speaker 2: ninety four, ninety nine, but Caruso missing two threes late

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Speaker 2: in the game, that that kind of triggered the run.

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Speaker 2: Triggered the run was he missed two open threes and

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Speaker 2: Alex and then lou Dort missed one late, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: why does it matter that Crusoe misses two threes? Why

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Speaker 2: does it matter that lou Dort misses misses a three late?

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Speaker 2: Because those are your worst shooters. And in trying to

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Speaker 2: figure out, Okay, how did this happen, How did they

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Speaker 2: make all these shots, how did they score?

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Speaker 3: Et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Think about the comeback, right, You had Pascal Siakam, he

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Speaker 2: had two different trips to the free throw line, he

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Speaker 2: made three out of four. You had Andrew Nebhart making

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Speaker 2: a three. Uh, you had Miles Turner making threes. You

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Speaker 2: had Obi Toppin making threes. Now, it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: Obi Toppin is a is a great shooter, doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: Miles Turner is a great shooter. But that's what they

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Speaker 2: have molded their NBA careers into. They have improved dramatically.

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Speaker 2: Turner has always been a good shooter made himself into

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Speaker 2: a forty percent three point shooter, right Aaron Nate Smith

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Speaker 2: forty nine and a half percent three point shooter Toppin's

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Speaker 2: only at their but he was running a fever last night.

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Speaker 2: And the big story to me is that they got

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City to have their non shooters shoot, and then

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Speaker 2: they came down and smartly made threes late, and they

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Speaker 2: had one put back and a couple free throws late

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Speaker 2: as well. In other words, perfect analytics basketball up until

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Speaker 2: that last kind of pull up jump shot, but doesn't

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Speaker 2: really matter. Hey, tremendous analytics basketball at both ends, making

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Speaker 2: the sub thirty five three point shooters shoot and not

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Speaker 2: allowing shots at the rim only two's after the non

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Speaker 2: shooter shooting a three and then taking threes and layups yourself.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that one was weird because that one

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Speaker 2: seemed another one seemed over, and even the Oklahoma City

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Speaker 2: crowd like wasn't freaking out. And then it happens so fast,

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Speaker 2: bang bang bang bang bang, topping with a bunch of threes,

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Speaker 2: Miles Turner a couple of threes, and now all a sudden,

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Speaker 2: you're like, that's getting kind of close. And then Lou

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Speaker 2: Dort fires off when it misses, and they come down

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Speaker 2: and can another one, and you're like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: we have ourselves a game.

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Speaker 3: Bayer. You will play it for people. We put it

865
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: on social media.

866
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: You literally predicted this thing, like to the t on

867
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: what could or would happen with the Pacers having a

868
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: lead late When I say game one NBA Finals, what's

869
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: the first thing that comes to your mind as to

870
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: what you actually saw.

871
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was the Pacers doing it again, and you

872
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 10: try to find points in the game, Doug where you're like, Okay, this.

873
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: Is where it turned. That's where it turned.

874
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 10: I'm a big fan of the twelve point lead because

875
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 10: it's never as big as you think, and it's never

876
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 10: as small as you think, because sure of the three

877
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 10: point shot, you could be at eighteen and you know,

878
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 10: two possessions and it gave me down to a six

879
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 10: point game and the same sort of breath. But we

880
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 10: were hovering around that area. So the nine point lead

881
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 10: at that three minute mark was big. And again three

882
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 10: point shot and Nie Smith hits it, and now it's

883
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 10: a six point game and it's a close game. Throughout

884
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 10: the crazy part that I thought what was was big

885
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 10: you mentioned Caruso. Remember at the end of the first half,

886
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 10: Caruso had a shot at the buck at the right

887
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 10: at the bucket and it didn't go down, but they

888
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 10: still led by twelve. But that was a half where

889
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 10: the Pacers had nineteen turnovers and they only led by twelve,

890
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 10: Like Indiana was only down at that point. And it's

891
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 10: at that point that I'm thinking to myself, well, this

892
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 10: is still a ballgame if Indiana just decides to hold

893
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 10: on to the basketball. And the reason why yesterday I

894
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 10: said what I said was because I felt that that

895
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 10: is the turning point of it. If you navigate that

896
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 10: stretch the final six minutes in you're Oklahoma City, You're

897
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 10: you're in a really really good spot. No not only

898
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 10: are the overwhelming favorite, but you have done something that

899
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 10: the other teams have not been able to do when

900
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 10: they faced Indiana. But if Indiana does it now, I

901
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 10: feel that the series has turned because you can look

902
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 10: at all the bad things that Indiana did in Game

903
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 10: one and said, wow, they still were able to come

904
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 10: in and steal it. So that's why the stretch, it

905
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 10: just felt, was so important because it just felt like

906
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 10: a tone setter for the series. That it's going to

907
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 10: go one way or the other. Either Oklahoma City is

908
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 10: going to end the Pacers' streak of comebacks and kind

909
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 10: of right or wrong of their own from what happened

910
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 10: in the Denver series, or now Indiana is fully into

911
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 10: the series with a legit chance to bring home the

912
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 10: NBA title.

913
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: H Yeah, this is one where I can never understand,

914
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: nor any of us can, the mentality of each individual team.

915
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: I do think that for the Pacers moving forward, their

916
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: thought process has to be we could not have played

917
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: any worse than the first half. We played fine the

918
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: second half, and then we caught a heater and we

919
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: did we did, we came back and win the game.

920
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 2: Imagine what happens if we actually play a good first half,

921
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: a could clean first half for Oklahoma City again, you

922
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: would think the thought process is what you want positive

923
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: is hey man, we were up nineteen, like we're the

924
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: better team.

925
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: All we got to do is just step on their

926
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: throat next time.

927
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: On the other hand, there's never going to be a

928
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: part in the game where you're looking up at the

929
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: lead thinking we're good.

930
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: Right, It's just never like we did never, never good.

931
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: And as much as you can say well, hey, maybe

932
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: that makes Oklahoma City a young team step on their

933
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: throat and make a fifteen point game a thirty point

934
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: game next time. Maybe, or maybe you're up that magic

935
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 2: number of twelve what you're talking about, and Nie Smith

936
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: hits a three and all of a sudden, Diagno's going

937
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: to take quick time out and they kind of start

938
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: freaking out and get tight. But none of us know

939
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. We just know, like psychologically, it could

940
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: literally go either way. And that's why And I know

941
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 2: Jay's off, he's up hiking in big today, Jay Stu,

942
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 2: But that's why he hates the stupid prediction game because

943
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 2: you can't tell the mentality. You can't tell how one

944
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: ball goes in what doesn't go in. But I have

945
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: to tell you that that was one of the most

946
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: thrilling endings. Look, every part of me should want Oklahoma

947
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: City to win. And just again, as you guys know,

948
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: my kids all live in Oklahoma now right. I'm close

949
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: with some people in that organization. I know people in

950
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: the Pacers organization too. I think it'd just be great

951
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 2: for the city, great for the Organs and the people

952
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: I know in the organization. Tell me that the people

953
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: above them in the organization are all like great people,

954
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 2: Like there's just no bs to them.

955
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: I like everything about it.

956
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: So my ties should be to Oklahoma City. But watching

957
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 2: a team kind of methodically, not freak out, not panic,

958
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: hit a three, you get a stop at a three,

959
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 2: you get a stop at a three, you get a stop,

960
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: And then watching that crowd get watching the thunder get tight,

961
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: watching the officiating get to be totally even right, that's

962
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: a big thing. Like it got cut to six and

963
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: Shay got kind of a he got one of those

964
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: free throw merchant fouls. He's like, all right, they're gonna

965
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: give him a couple of calls to get him, but

966
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: that was the last call he got. Then the next

967
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: two pull up jump shots he got nothing on normally

968
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: regular season get called a foul, and it was not.

969
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: And that was one of the most thrilling comeback wins

970
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: I can think of in the NBA Finals, And again

971
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: I end up rooting for the Pacers, only not because

972
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: of the contrarian to me, but I just I appreciate

973
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: how hard it is what they've been doing and how

974
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 2: smartly they execute what they're doing.

975
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 10: And I would even say that the comebacks that they

976
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 10: had in the other games were more miraculous than this

977
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 10: one was. Because this was this was closer than over

978
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 10: the final ninety seconds to two minutes than it was, say,

979
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 10: in the Cleveland series or in the Bucks series, where

980
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 10: the Thunder did have to make plays. They didn't make

981
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 10: a bucket for the final ninety seconds of the game.

982
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 10: You're like, there's a there's another one for Oklahoma City,

983
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 10: and you wonder, now how that creeps in?

984
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: Well, Jellen Williams too big, missus, they're late, right, and

985
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 2: as as he goes, so goes to Thunder. Obviously, Shane

986
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: misses what could have been the game. Seiler could have

987
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: put them up up three. Here's Tyrese Halliburton on how

988
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: his team performed overall this game.

989
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 11: If you look at all the numbers, it's not the

990
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 11: recipe to win. We can't turn the ball over that much.

991
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 11: We got to do a better job of beating gaps,

992
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 11: gotta do better job of rebounding. You gotta do a

993
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 11: better job all over the floor. But come May in June,

994
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 11: it doesn't matter how you get them, just get them,

995
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 11: you know, so we'll take it. You know, we'll enjoy

996
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 11: this one.

997
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 5: Tonight.

998
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 11: But I understand we got another game coming up in

999
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 11: this tough building, and we got to be prepared for that. So,

1000
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 11: like I said, we're just a confident group. We got

1001
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 11: each other's back.

1002
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: Here's the league's MVP and how the Thunder ended up losing.

1003
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1004
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 12: It happened so fast. I feel like we got matched.

1005
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 12: He got down going right, pulled up from the midi

1006
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 12: and knocked down the shot.

1007
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 5: Uh. I don't know.

1008
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 12: It didn't feel like anything crazy. He just he just

1009
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 12: made a play. With the time winding down. We had

1010
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 12: control of the game for the most part of it.

1011
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 12: Now it is a forty eight minute game, and they

1012
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 12: teach you that lesson more than anyone else in the

1013
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 12: league the hard way.

1014
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: He's right, it does go fast.

1015
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: And then you know, Indiana doesn't call time out in

1016
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: the last possession, so oftentimes NBA teams have I've been

1017
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: in that situation and I've had the opposite thing happen

1018
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 2: right where you don't call time out, just let him

1019
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: go make a play like oh man, should I have

1020
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: called the timeout or not? There Ah just dying over it.

1021
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: But it does. It happens really fast. He hit three.

1022
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, it's nine. Then you missed a

1023
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: shout and he hit three, Like okay, it's six. That

1024
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: that happened fast. They eat the fault line. You're like, oh, okay,

1025
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: it's eight. Then he hit it three and it's five.

1026
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: Like whoa, whoa, what what happened? Now we're in a game.

1027
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: Happened so fast, so fast? And I love what Alburton said.

1028
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: He's basically like, we didn't really play well enough to win,

1029
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: but that matter, which to Dan, you're my point, which

1030
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: is like, Indiana's got to be sitting there thinking, imagine

1031
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: if we actually played well, you know, we won a

1032
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: game on their home court and we were do do

1033
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: for the first twenty four minutes.

1034
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, and selling the Pacers are without faults because that

1035
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 10: is one of their faults defensively as well. They yeah, yeah,

1036
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 10: I mean they haven't been as strong, but boy, last

1037
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 10: night it sure came through and they needed to. The

1038
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 10: nineteen first half turnovers is absurd. Was it to only

1039
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 10: be down twelve at that point?

1040
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1041
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's one of the reasons though that again,

1042
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: you know, thunderplay, both teams play a lot of guys.

1043
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: I thought it hurt both teams playing a lot of guys.

1044
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 2: I thought of Oklahoma City would have played a little

1045
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: bit more of a condensed rotation last night. They could

1046
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: have maybe stepped on the throat of the Pacers in

1047
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,359
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Speaker 3: Rebound, Indiana. Eight seconds to go. The Pacers are not

1056
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: gonna call a time out. Taddiburton has it.

1057
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: With three driving, with two pulling up ahead.

1058
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 5: Heading with three tenths of a second to go? How

1059
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 5: many more times can this team do that?

1060
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 3: Soweets babies? Have you have you seen the Haliban tweets

1061
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: out there? Have you seen those? Have you seen it?

1062
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: Those are amazing?

1063
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 2: And it's like, I will I refuse to be the

1064
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: guy who gets offended right because anything Taliban related whatever

1065
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: supposed to But it's so good and so funny that

1066
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: I gotta tell people, if you're bothered by it, then

1067
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: you know what, just stay out of this one. We're

1068
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: all going to have a good time and enjoy basketball

1069
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: and understand it's not that deep.