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Speaker 2: We tried, We tried, we tried. Horrible loss for the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: know they got winnable games here. They can kind of

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. Here's my big question. If you're the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: do you let Lamar Jackson sit one more game or

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Speaker 2: against Miami. Get to that halfway point in the season.

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Speaker 2: That's a big decision. Although I thought he was playing,

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Speaker 2: three coming up tonight, Seaton. What's the poll question from

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Speaker 4: Well, as always, we usually start Monday off with who

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Speaker 4: had the worst weekend?

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Speaker 2: And we like to populate that.

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Speaker 4: I was just looking over I haven't put this list

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Speaker 4: together just yet, but it was a bad week for

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Speaker 4: second chance backups. Okay, I'm putting Kirk Cousins in that category.

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Speaker 2: I got man Raheem Morris might be on the warm

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Speaker 2: tough team, you know. Drake Linden was banged up. I

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Speaker 2: believe Michael Pennix Junior, the third was out. Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 4: That seems to be a like teen culture issue there, right.

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Speaker 4: You can't have that many name brand players, so to speak,

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Speaker 3: It seems like we keep waiting for them.

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Speaker 4: Okay, look at all these guys they got go be good,

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Speaker 4: go be good?

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Speaker 5: Not good?

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Speaker 3: Who else is on the list?

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Speaker 4: Well, I would put Sam Darnold on the bad week

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Speaker 4: for second chance backups. Maybe, Uh, let's see we also

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Speaker 4: have weekend Sam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not Sam, do my bed not Sam do?

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Speaker 4: Forget about that. I wrote that down wrong. I could

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Speaker 4: jump to best college football job opening right now. LSU,

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, Brian Kelly had a bad week, and uh,

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Speaker 2: this is very snarky, but we had some people reach

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Speaker 2: out to Fritzie and ask if he was going to

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Speaker 3: Him all to Fritzie to make some room in the club.

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Speaker 2: So we got some LSU gear there with Brian Kelly

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Speaker 2: that maybe may be coming your way.

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Speaker 6: Todd, Yes, Paul, And everything's about comparisons. Brian Kelly leaves

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Speaker 6: Notre Dame because he couldn't win a national title there.

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Speaker 6: every year, it's always in comparison where you left and

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's a big buy out.

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Speaker 2: That seems to be the rage here and this is

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Speaker 2: but Brian Kelly, it was never a good fit. We

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Speaker 2: and how much you lose by and you get blown

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Speaker 2: out by Texas A and M. And if you're there

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Speaker 2: and you're a Booster alumni, it hurts even more. And

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Speaker 2: you know your patients say, we're losing three games. You're

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Speaker 2: that talked about hey keeping receids here. Brian Kelly never

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Speaker 2: fit there. There's certain places where, especially in the SEC

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Speaker 2: where you go that doesn't fit. It doesn't mean he's

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Speaker 2: because of his personality. Now, he didn't win big games,

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Speaker 2: and just ask James Franklin, you got to win those games,

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Speaker 2: at least be in the playoffs, and it just you

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Speaker 2: that would ever happen. But James Franklin, Yeah, nice, here's

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Speaker 2: some parting gifts. Brian Kelly, we gave you a chance.

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Speaker 2: Now we move on.

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Speaker 4: It is weird because it does feel like there is

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Speaker 4: no scandal, there is no anything. We just don't like you.

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Speaker 4: It's like personality based with Brian Kelly. It kind of

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Speaker 4: feels like we just don't like you and how you are,

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Speaker 2: Is no cheating scandal.

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Speaker 3: There is no other.

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Speaker 4: Big blow up. He didn't hit somebody he didn't like.

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Speaker 4: There's no other thing like that. It's just you.

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Speaker 3: Eight seven seven to three.

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Speaker 2: DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at

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Speaker 2: of the weekend. The strength and conditioning coach who was

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Speaker 2: at LSU, I think for about twenty two to twenty

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M. During practice apparently they had a

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Speaker 2: the strengthened conditioning coach was very proud of what he

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Speaker 2: Kelly let him go. Okay, so phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Fritzy's Broncos great performance against the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Not that you had anything to do with it, but congratulations.

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Speaker 3: I send them vibes.

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Speaker 5: Through the TV. I like to believe that, you know

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Speaker 5: the louder Ice screaming act, that it affects the alchemy.

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Speaker 3: You got your Broncos gear on today.

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Speaker 2: Well with the old retro stuff, because that's the awesome

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Speaker 5: I know Paulie loves it too.

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Speaker 2: Seaton's here, Marv, Paulie yours truly the Brgs as well.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this with the MVP in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: it's going to go to a quarterback. That's why they

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Speaker 2: came up with the Offensive Player of the Year, which

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Speaker 2: I hate, I think it's embarrassing, is Jonathan Taylor. The

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Speaker 2: MVP right now? Is he the most valuable player? Considering

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Speaker 2: what his team is doing and what he's doing. He's

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Speaker 2: ranks in the MVP candidates on DraftKings. Your MVP right

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Speaker 2: now is Patrick Mahomes. His numbers aren't great. Now do

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Speaker 2: I think they're still the best team in the AFC?

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Speaker 2: I do, even at a pedestrian four and three record.

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Speaker 2: and Matthew Stafford, then Jared Goff, then Daniel Jones, then

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. Okay, now this is Vegas. You know this

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Speaker 2: DraftKings and their odds here, but Jonathan Taylor is the

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Speaker 2: this is what I saw yesterday. You know, he's leading

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Speaker 2: that's what his job is offensively, he's the best player offensively.

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Speaker 2: like a running back with the Heisman. Wait, is he

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul Adrian Peterson won it in twenty twelve, but

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Speaker 2: Four Okay, Yeah, AP was in twenty twelve or twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then Ladanian Tomlinson prior to that, but that was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was surprising.

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Speaker 2: But we keep using the Offensive Player of the Year

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Speaker 5: Of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Can he be most valuable?

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel like the voters that they're going

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge that. It's like running backs are the best

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Speaker 2: Supporting Actor, Yes, paulm.

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Speaker 6: Can we combine a vote for Jonathan Taylor and Daniel

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Speaker 3: MVP Jonathan Jones?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: And Daniel Jones has done.

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Speaker 2: Really, really well And the biggest thing is no turnovers.

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Speaker 3: That's the key.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones can play, and he's playing at a higher

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Speaker 2: level than probably a lot of people thought. You got

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Speaker 2: a good offensive line, you got a great running back,

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Speaker 2: and the Colts taking advantage of Okay, they got a

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Speaker 2: couple of breaks, you know, the game against the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: the game against the Chargers. Chargers were banged up, under manned,

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Speaker 2: a very good Broncos team, Yes, Marvion.

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Speaker 7: But do you think Daniel Jones' reputation will keep him

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Speaker 3: Bo Yes, Yes, he's not gonna win MVP.

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Speaker 2: Andy Staples covers college football for on three Sports. He

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Speaker 2: was at the Florida Gators game with miss State Billy

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Speaker 10: of course they're spoiled. The last three coaches at LSU

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Speaker 10: In the second half, Texas A and M has annihilated LSU.

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Speaker 10: So he's got a fifty three million dollar buyout. If

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Speaker 10: Did you did you kill today?

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Speaker 10: I mean, listen, Dan, if it were me and somebody

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't leave the coaching world, community fraternity

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Speaker 8: I think he entertains it for a day or two

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban is not going to come out of retirement

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Speaker 10: Interesting because it probably will depend on what sort of

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Speaker 10: there's gonna be a lot of jobs open, Dan, So

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Speaker 8: Just keep milking this thing. Like I don't know what

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Speaker 10: I don't know if he wants to stay at ole Miss,

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Speaker 10: It's a great question, Dan, because you know, the obvious

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Speaker 10: we just lost Signetty.

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Speaker 3: Please don't do this to us.

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Speaker 2: Could Penn State hire a Vanderbilt head coach? Could they

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Speaker 2: do that again?

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Speaker 10: Clark Lee, Yeah, you know, I think you can do that.

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Speaker 10: It's really interesting, Dan, because I hate the whole idea of, well,

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Speaker 10: we can't hire a guy from the school that we've

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Speaker 10: hired from before, or we can't hire a group of

447
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Speaker 10: fivephead coach because we did that before.

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Speaker 8: I think enough time passed.

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Speaker 10: And also I think James Franklin was a successful hire

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Speaker 10: at Penn State. He won them a Big Ten title,

451
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Speaker 10: he was there a long time, so it's not like

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Speaker 10: hiring the Vanderbilt coach again.

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Speaker 8: Is the same thing that you just did.

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Speaker 10: And in fact, if it works out the way James

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Speaker 10: Franklin worked out, that's a good that's.

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Speaker 8: A good outcome. It's a good result.

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Speaker 10: So yes, Clark Lee would be a very good choice

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Speaker 10: at Penn State. He'd be a very good choice at

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Speaker 10: LSU or Florida as well. But he's he's at his

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Speaker 10: alma mater. And that's what's interesting about this. There's a

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Speaker 10: bunch of good coaches right now at their alma mater.

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Speaker 10: So it's to take a little bit more to get

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Speaker 10: like a Clark Lee, a Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State,

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Speaker 10: a Brent Key at Georgia Tech. Because they're they're at

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Speaker 10: their alma maters.

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Speaker 2: The impact on NIL with the coaches because these buyouts,

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Speaker 2: you know, patients is running thin. You got three years,

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Speaker 2: it feels like, but the expectation level of we're going

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Speaker 2: to pay you ten million dollars. We're gonna pay your

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Speaker 2: players a total of twenty one million dollars.

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Speaker 3: This is the future.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing with college football that this is the transfer

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Speaker 2: portal in NIL and the coaches, I would say, paying

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Speaker 2: the price, but they get paid to pay the price.

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Speaker 10: I was gonna say, they're not paying the price. They're

476
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Speaker 10: still getting guaranteed gobs of money. What they need to

477
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Speaker 10: do is the ads need to figure out how to

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Speaker 10: guarantee less money than they're guaranteeing.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: You shouldn't have to pay as big of a buyout

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Speaker 10: as you did for Jimbo Fisher or James Franklin or

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Speaker 10: Brian Kelly. That's the AD's fault for getting knocked in

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Speaker 10: the creek by an agent.

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Speaker 8: The solution may be.

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Speaker 10: Actually, and the person who told me this actually works

486
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Speaker 10: with actors in Hollywood, and they said they had to

487
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Speaker 10: change the model when Netflix and the streaming services came

488
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Speaker 10: in because you didn't have residuals and mailbox money, so

489
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Speaker 10: they started front loading the contracts.

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Speaker 8: And this person's like, what they.

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Speaker 10: Need to do is pay them an obscene amount of

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Speaker 10: money per year, guaranteed for three years. But it doesn't

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Speaker 10: need to be guaranteed for six or seven years like

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Speaker 10: they're doing now. Because it used to be dan before

495
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Speaker 10: the Anile era, you had to have four years on

496
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Speaker 10: your contract, so you can go into mama's house and

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Speaker 10: be like, see, I'm going to be here the entire

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Speaker 10: time your son's here.

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Speaker 8: And even though we all know that was a lie,

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Speaker 8: the players aren't stupid. They all have agents.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't matter how long you have on the coach's contract.

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Speaker 10: So offer them more money than they think they're going

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Speaker 10: to get, but guarantee it for three years. That way,

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Speaker 10: if they suck for two years, you can dump out.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying that. I mean, Kurt Signetti is a

507
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Speaker 2: great story. I never would have given somebody ten years.

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Speaker 3: That's in a.

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Speaker 8: Ninety five million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. He's done a great job. I love it.

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Speaker 2: But the most I would ever give his five years.

512
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Speaker 2: And even then, how about I give you, like you know,

513
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Speaker 2: actors get back end money.

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Speaker 3: After a movie. Is his some residuals? Yeah?

515
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Speaker 2: What if I said to the coach, hey, we're going

516
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Speaker 2: to give you a back end money on the profits

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Speaker 2: that we have with our football program.

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Speaker 10: I don't know that you can sell a piece of

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Speaker 10: the program, especially at State Universe. But think about this, Dan,

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Speaker 10: It's ninety five million dollars is how much they guaranteed

521
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Speaker 10: Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 8: If you paid him fifteen million.

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Speaker 10: Dollars a year for three years, you're only guaranteeing him

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Speaker 10: forty five million.

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Speaker 8: And if it works out, great, then been given another deal.

526
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Speaker 8: But if it doesn't, then you're not tied up.

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Speaker 10: And he would have taken that because it had made

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Speaker 10: him the highest paid coach.

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Speaker 3: Can Indiana win the national title? Yes?

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Speaker 10: This Indiana team camp, This Indiana team is loaded. They

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Speaker 10: got a bunch of NFL dudes Kurtzy that he tried

532
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Speaker 10: to tell us and we didn't listen. But they brought

533
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Speaker 10: back almost all of what made last year's team special.

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Speaker 10: And then they upgraded at quarterback when they got Fernanda

535
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Speaker 10: Mendoza at cal So they absolutely can compete with anybody.

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Speaker 3: Great to talk to you again, Andy, Thank you, Thank you. Dan.

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Speaker 2: My goal is to not upset coach Kauer today. He's

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Speaker 2: nice enough to spend time with us, and it feels

543
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Speaker 2: like every time I have him on right at the

544
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Speaker 2: end of the interview, I somehow say something that upsets you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, coach, Good morning Dan.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a listic goal that you have for

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Speaker 5: this morning. Thank you for sharing that with me.

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Speaker 3: You get upset when you watch games.

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Speaker 5: I don't get upset. I get disappointed when I see

550
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Speaker 5: bad calls. I get disappointed when I see irresponsible decisions,

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Speaker 5: But I don't get upset. I got upset when I

552
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Speaker 5: was coaching, though I did get upset.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever have an official say my bad I

554
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Speaker 2: miss that.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry?

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Speaker 5: Well no, I mean I would stand beside him and

557
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Speaker 5: I would say, I know you can't look up there,

558
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: but trust me, you will be downgraded if you don't

559
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Speaker 5: change this call. So I tried to lay out the

560
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Speaker 5: circumstances and maybe the consequences of them not changing the call.

561
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Speaker 5: But we have the expedited reviews now. But even to that,

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Speaker 5: to some extent, I mean, I think last night he

563
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Speaker 5: was a prime example. It was another great weekend for

564
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Speaker 5: the officiating.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how upset would you be if you were still

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Speaker 2: coaching the Steelers after that? Performance by the defense last night.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, listen, I think there was some pivotal

568
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Speaker 5: moments in there. I think it was a very good

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Speaker 5: first half. I mean, you go into a game, you

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Speaker 5: go into halftime, you have sixteen to seven, You get

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Speaker 5: the ball coming out the second half, you got a

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Speaker 5: quarterback who's very good with cadence, gets them to jump

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Speaker 5: off side, takes a shot down the field and it's

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Speaker 5: not even called. I thought that was a very pivotal

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Speaker 5: point in the game because you always talk about the

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Speaker 5: last two minutes in the first, last four, first four

577
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Speaker 5: coming out, and that was a chance. You know, if

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Speaker 5: it's third down and three, there's a different play call

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Speaker 5: third down and three, and it's you have midfield, maybe

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Speaker 5: even go for it on fourth down. And then you

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Speaker 5: turn around and you the very next to the series,

582
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Speaker 5: you get pressure on Jordan Love, he throws a ball,

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Speaker 5: it's up for grabs, I mean, and it turns into

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Speaker 5: a eighty yard or seventy few yards reception that leads

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Speaker 5: to a touchdown. So I think it's kind of spiraled

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Speaker 5: out of hand at that point. But that was a

587
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Speaker 5: very pivotal time in the game. So I don't think

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Speaker 5: you got to be careful by looking and describing a

589
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Speaker 5: whole game saying the defense was this, the defense was

590
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Speaker 5: that there was a few plays there, because I saw

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Speaker 5: first half where they got after him pretty good, and

592
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Speaker 5: I mean green Bay held up to seven points. And

593
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Speaker 5: that's so I don't think I think I'd be very

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Speaker 5: careful at this point of trying to overanalyze something.

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Speaker 2: If you're the Browns, why would you hold onto Miles

596
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Speaker 2: Garrett and maybe not trade him and realize, let's get

597
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Speaker 2: some first round picks and you know, we got to

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Speaker 2: figure this out, We got to restart.

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Speaker 5: He's a generational player, Dan, you know, I don't think

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Speaker 5: he's trade generational players. And you know, that's a total

601
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Speaker 5: total start over. We've seen a lot of teams rebound

602
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Speaker 5: and come back. This is a good defense. This is

603
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Speaker 5: a offense that's still trying to find its way with

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Speaker 5: a young quarterback. And you know, again, I think you're

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Speaker 5: looking at National Football League. They're still at a point

606
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Speaker 5: with what there's still only three games out of first place.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, so I think again, the whole getting

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Speaker 5: rid of people and are trying to buy people, and

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Speaker 5: I think if you're close, you go get someone. But

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Speaker 5: I think if you're going to take a player off

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Speaker 5: your team, it's not a great message to sending the

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Speaker 5: rest of the players on your team. Are you giving

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Speaker 5: up on this season? And now? I expect them to

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Speaker 5: go out there the second half of this season to

615
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Speaker 5: build something and maybe take into the next year, because

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Speaker 5: I think there's a lot to be said for that.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think you get rid of generational players.

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Speaker 2: What do you do if you're the Cowboys where you

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Speaker 2: know you have a really good offense, but you're missing

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Speaker 2: that pass rusher that you traded to Green Bay right.

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Speaker 5: And you have some draft equity there moving forward, but

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Speaker 5: to take advantage of this time right now, I think

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Speaker 5: at least making some attempt to upgrade that defense, because

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Speaker 5: you're right, they have too much of a special offense.

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Speaker 5: You don't know what's gonna happen with George Pickens at

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Speaker 5: the end of the year where he's at, you know

627
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Speaker 5: he's gonna be up for a contract, So I think

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Speaker 5: you try to go out to see what you see

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Speaker 5: what's out there. You do have some draft equity to

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Speaker 5: work with, maybe acquire somebody, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: issues they have on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: Obviously getting a pass rusher. It starts right there. If

633
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Speaker 5: had some injuries in the secondary, but I think he's

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Speaker 5: still in the hunt right now. When you look at

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Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys, you're still right there. I would absolutely

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Speaker 5: try to upgrade that defense.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of the Cowboy or the Steelers

638
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Speaker 2: uniforms last night?

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Speaker 5: I don't like them at all. I think it's I

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Speaker 5: mean throwback.

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Speaker 3: I don't know would you have objected to that?

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Speaker 2: Would you have made an executive did you have veto

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Speaker 2: power on anything?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 5: Are you trying to get me upset? I see where

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Speaker 5: you're going? Do I see where you're going with this?

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Speaker 5: You are we're talking good foot. You were right into

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Speaker 5: the you said you're going to try. You said you

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Speaker 5: were going to try it.

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Speaker 3: I did try. I failed. Coach, I failed?

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay?

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Speaker 2: Can you vtail those uniforms if you were the head coach?

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Speaker 5: I I don't know if I could, I would make

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Speaker 5: every attempt to do. I would not try to upset anybody,

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Speaker 5: but I'd let them know that is not my favorite uniform,

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Speaker 5: particularly on that particular night. Go insto the Green Bay Packers,

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Speaker 5: and I know maybe that decision was made beforehand maybe

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Speaker 5: or maybe not. But boy, we could change it if

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Speaker 5: you had to. Really can't we? I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It looked like they had khaki pants on. Coach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. The talk wasn't much better.

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Speaker 5: It was not much better.

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Speaker 2: That was That was rough. We're talking to the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame coach Bill Kower once again. I'm trying not

665
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Speaker 2: to upset him. Why can't it running back win MVP?

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Speaker 5: Well, I said, glad you brought that up, and I

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Speaker 5: agree with you. I mean, if you go back historically,

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Speaker 5: the last three running backs to win that national MVPs

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Speaker 5: have been Marshall Falk, Ladanian, Tomlinson and Sewn Alexander and

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Speaker 5: all three of them after eight games had a total

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Speaker 5: fourteen touchdowns, which is the same path Jonathan Taylor is on.

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Speaker 5: And Jonathan Taylor to me, with the football team that

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Speaker 5: I think is the best in football right now. You

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Speaker 5: look what they can do on offense with him, Daniel

675
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Speaker 5: Jones is playing at a very high level. Their defense

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Speaker 5: you can talk of being their thirredon takeaways, are top

677
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Speaker 5: five in defensive scoring. Louis and a Rumo I think

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Speaker 5: has been one of the best offseason acquisitions. I think

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Speaker 5: in the National Football League, I would put him on

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Speaker 5: the defensive side. I'd put Josh McDaniel on the offensive

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Speaker 5: side with what he's done with Drake May and Mike Grabel.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think there's I think there's a legitimate argument.

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Speaker 5: We keep talking about the quarterbacks, and I know that

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Speaker 5: the quarterbacks are this, but that football team, the heartbeat

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Speaker 5: and the soul of that team is Jonathan Taylor, and

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Speaker 5: that being the Indianapolis Colts, who have the best record

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Speaker 5: in football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I say.

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Speaker 2: You got fourteen touchdowns, he's unpaced for eighteen hundred yards. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he would have to do he'd have to surpass

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Speaker 2: Sewn Alexander touchdown total before I think the voters would

692
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Speaker 2: notice because two thousand yards. We've seen that, and they

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Speaker 2: give you that cop Out award the Offensive Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year.

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Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you, but that football team, to me, again,

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Speaker 5: not take nothing away from Daniel Jones, he's been great,

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Speaker 5: but you take Jonathan Taylor off that team, it's not

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Speaker 5: the same offense. And I don't know if you could

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Speaker 5: say that about other quarterbacks because to me, it's been

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Speaker 5: about the quarterbacks. I think the running back has supplemented

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Speaker 5: that and has been a complimentary part of that with

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Speaker 5: the quarterbacks where its Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 5: because they also bring an element of rushing to that.

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Speaker 5: But you look at this football team. To me, Daniel

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Speaker 5: Jones compliments Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, not the other way around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. What was the highlight of your NFL career.

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Speaker 5: Winning a Super Bowl in my fourteenth year?

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Speaker 3: No, as a player, I don't have many of them.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So, so I blocked a punt against the New

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Speaker 5: York Giants in nineteen eighty three. You're trying to get

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Speaker 5: me upset.

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Speaker 3: I'm asking you to open your scrap books. Okay, I am.

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Speaker 8: I am.

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Speaker 5: Your career like winning Super Bowl? No, you're playing career.

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Speaker 5: I was a specialties player and I did play for

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Speaker 5: five years. I did block a pun against Ali Jaji

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Speaker 5: Chik and the New York Giants at the same time.

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Speaker 5: I think Bill Belichick was on that staff. So I

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Speaker 5: did block a punt for a touchdown. It was in

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Speaker 5: Week three. I was at the Philadelphia Eagles and they

721
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Speaker 5: were playing in New York Giants en Giants Stadium, So

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Speaker 5: I guess that would be my career highlight, a block punt.

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Speaker 5: I actually looked this up. I was trying to see

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Speaker 5: I can find it, and I actually found it. You

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Speaker 5: have to dig deep into the archives of the Internet

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Speaker 5: to find us. But I did block an Ali Haji Sheikh,

727
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Speaker 5: who was in because of a hurt day Jennings and

728
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Speaker 5: I came in there and actually.

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Speaker 11: He first first highlight that was first ever minor da

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Speaker 11: all right, I'm just I'm a journalist here.

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Speaker 5: Okay, But you know what made the call on that,

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Speaker 5: John Madden. I had John Madden do me one of

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Speaker 5: those telestrators you get a so so that I guess

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Speaker 5: would be my highlight as having John Madden do a

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Speaker 5: telestrator on you. So now you're trying to get me

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Speaker 5: upset because you had to see.

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Speaker 2: I know your highlight was winning a Super.

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Speaker 5: Bowl, Okay, I know that, okay, and I gave you

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Speaker 5: my my player highlight.

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Speaker 3: But why why are you angry?

741
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Speaker 5: Because I'm not actually excited to talk about this because I

742
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Speaker 5: did have John Madden do a telestrator on me blocking

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Speaker 5: a punt that which was pretty cool. Right. Have you

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Speaker 5: ever had John Madden do a telestrator when you when

745
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 5: you were doing an interview. No, no, okay, but see

746
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Speaker 5: experienced nothing you haven't.

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Speaker 2: America just learned that you blocked a punt and National

748
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: TV and John Madden illustrated it. They never could have

749
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Speaker 2: known that. But that's me doing investigative work in asking

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Speaker 2: real questions.

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Speaker 5: And the question was, oh, was that his first punt?

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00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 3: And that was his first punt?

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Speaker 5: Oh, so you did know that, Yes.

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Speaker 3: It was his first.

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Speaker 2: Ali Haji Sheikh was a kicker and he had to

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Speaker 2: come in for Dave Jennings, who was the former player

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Speaker 2: rep of the Giants. I might have been that game,

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Speaker 2: A great what's that game at the Meadowlands?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I might have been there.

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Speaker 5: Wow, you don't remember my greatest play of my career.

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Speaker 5: You do remember the play? I think remember the play?

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Speaker 3: I might?

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Speaker 4: I might?

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Speaker 5: Wait, but so so, did you really look this up?

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Speaker 5: Or is this was something that just you knew that

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Speaker 5: that that Oli only had one punt and it was

769
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Speaker 5: blocked and you did not know it was me.

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Speaker 3: I did not know it was you. Okay, this is

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Speaker 3: fact Tha trying to.

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Speaker 2: Get Ali Haji Sheik on the show today to surprise you.

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Speaker 5: Wow, thank you, and you're making me happy. Now, this

774
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: is pretty cool. You're like going down memory lane with

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Speaker 5: some of my eyelights.

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Speaker 2: Because your wife is not asking you this stuff. She

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Speaker 2: doesn't care.

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Speaker 5: No, I tell her every now reminder I did play.

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Speaker 3: Do you remind her? Yeah, do you remind her?

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Speaker 5: Well, just now, like I know, he's a little bit

781
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 5: of what I'm talking about it. I know after the fact,

782
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Speaker 5: you're always have all the right answers, But now I

783
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,479
Speaker 5: didn't always have the right answers. I made some bad

784
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Speaker 5: calls at times too.

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Speaker 2: But I would I would hate to have to interview

786
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Speaker 2: you like that halftime interview.

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Speaker 5: That would be good, right, like when you're.

788
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Speaker 2: Losing and then you know, I say, hey, what kind

789
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Speaker 2: of adjustments are you going to make in the second half?

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Speaker 3: Coach?

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00:38:53,280 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: Multiple even if you're winning, I don't want to interview you.

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Speaker 5: You know you for Winnie, I got So what do

793
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Speaker 5: you How do you feel about the first half? It

794
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 5: doesn't matter because it's only a matter. Thing that matters

795
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Speaker 5: is the second half. Next question.

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Speaker 2: Once again, I don't think there's a good question that

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00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: I could ask you where I was going to go, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we got something else?

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Speaker 5: You maybe ask you what's what's the greatest joy.

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Speaker 8: Of your playing career.

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00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 5: I've walked to the pump, all the hues you see.

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00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: Uh, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you you know you're going to

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Speaker 2: find something you know later later today that is going

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Speaker 2: to equally well.

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Speaker 5: You know, I look forward to coming on here with

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Speaker 5: you because I just you know, I never know what

809
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: path you're going down, and so every now and then

810
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 5: it's something that's like in the and you do touch

811
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 5: base with the now, but you also like to go

812
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 5: back into the archives a little bit and just dig

813
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: into someone's history, dig into someone's emotions, dig into someone's

814
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 5: troublesome past at times. And so I appreciate you allowing

815
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Speaker 5: me to go down memory lane to experience all those things.

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Speaker 5: And I look forward to coming on again, and thank

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Speaker 5: you for still had my bubble head up there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I won't.

819
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Speaker 2: But you wore fifty three when you're with the Browns,

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Speaker 2: but fifty seven with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was fifty five in high school, fifty four

822
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Speaker 5: with NC State, fifty three with the Chiefs. I asked

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Speaker 5: for fifty two, but they wouldn't give it to me.

824
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Speaker 5: So I went the other way and went up to

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Speaker 5: fifty seven.

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Speaker 3: Do you have that jersey?

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Speaker 5: No, didn't have it for very long Land for two years.

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Speaker 3: My career.

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Speaker 5: I never stayed in one place a long time man.

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Speaker 2: But you did win a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh, and

831
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Speaker 2: you did block a punt.

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Speaker 5: Ah. Thank you for leaving me with. Those are special memories.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Special teams, legend slash Hall of Fame coach

835
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Speaker 2: Bill Keller, Thank you, coach.

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Speaker 3: Thanks and there he is NFL Today on CBS