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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Lake Kick is Live. It is

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, September seventeenth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Jam packed as jam packed can be in spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: probably going to lead the show with that line every

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Speaker 1: night from at least now until like January, maybe just forever.

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Speaker 1: Do not miss a show. We were loaded Sunday, we

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Speaker 1: were loaded Tuesday, We're loaded tonight. A ton of information.

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Speaker 1: I know all of you can't watch the live show.

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Speaker 1: The replays are there right afterwards. We cut that fifteen

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Speaker 1: minute intro off about an hour afterwards, so don't complain.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be gone before you know it. It's

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Speaker 1: replayed in podcast the next morning if you guys can't

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Speaker 1: watch it on YouTube. Also, we release a couple of

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Speaker 1: mailbag podcast only editions of Late Kick Extra. We released

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Speaker 1: one this morning. Actually had a lot of really good

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Speaker 1: questions there. If you want to submit questions, Collin's got

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Speaker 1: the content info right there at the bottom of the screen.

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Speaker 1: We have got a lot to talk about tonight, the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten. We finally don't have to lead a show

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Speaker 1: asking when's the Big ten going to make a move? Now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're asking the question I didn't

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Speaker 1: think we were going to be asking, and that is

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Speaker 1: it's Pack twelve about to make a move. Looks like

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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve is about to make a move. Fascinating

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Speaker 1: developments over the last twenty four to thirty six hours

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Speaker 1: out there, and we are going to dive into that

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Speaker 1: in just a second. We have got several thoughts on

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Speaker 1: a lot of games we haven't hit on to this

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Speaker 1: point during the week. In our Week three final thoughts,

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Speaker 1: I got some intel from three SEC camps, in particular,

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Speaker 1: they are a week and change away from opening the

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Speaker 1: season in the SEC South. Carolina has named a starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback and boy was it a polarizing decision by Will

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Speaker 1: must Champ, and we will dive in. I got some

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Speaker 1: pretty strong thoughts on that, and also the Rama Noodle

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Speaker 1: Express pulling into the station tonight with our five pack

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Speaker 1: of picks. We already gave you two of them. The

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Speaker 1: remaining three are coming tonight, so subscribe to the channel

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Speaker 1: if you haven't already. Before we even dive into our

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Speaker 1: opening segment, I mean, there was some really good news,

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Speaker 1: some encouraging news. As I was walking over from our

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Speaker 1: office which is kind of across the way over here

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Speaker 1: and I saw the name cad Mays and I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: not more of this. But then I saw what what

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Speaker 1: is this word? Eligible? Cad Mays wins his appeal, And

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Speaker 1: if you haven't been tuned in the last couple of hours,

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Speaker 1: cad Mays has won his appeal. So he transfers from Georgia.

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Speaker 1: He's going to Tennessee. Nc Douba says nope. And then

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Speaker 1: the nc DOUBLEA got pushed by an actual competent lawyer

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Speaker 1: that cad Mays and his family had the good sense

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Speaker 1: to hire, and so the NCUBA buckled like the accordion

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Speaker 1: that they are. Now he wins his appeal, So you think, okay,

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Speaker 1: Not so fast. There's one more hurdle to clear, and

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Speaker 1: that hurdle is in Birmingham, Alabama. It is the SEC

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Speaker 1: League office. So now all eyes shift from Indianapolis to Birmingham.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a Southwest flight, but no, actually, it is

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Speaker 1: just the final step in the appeals process of getting

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Speaker 1: kid May's on the field. So that's the latest out

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Don't have to talk about the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten a whole lot. Today we did a full reaction video.

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Speaker 1: Colin got it edited and put on the YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: in like thirty seven seconds. The other morning, yesterday morning,

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Speaker 1: I guess it was. It was a long Wednesday, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna dive into all of it. The Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: They're good to go. Kevin probably had the quote of

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Speaker 1: the year on the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel so far. I told him I was gonna use it.

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Speaker 1: I have attributed properly. Kevin said, and I quote this

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Speaker 1: feels a lot like when my daughter makes a mess

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Speaker 1: that pretty much summarizes what just happened in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: But I am a man of my word. To Kevin

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Speaker 1: Warren and all the chancellors and presidents up there, I'm

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Speaker 1: Just give us football. So looks like we're going to

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Speaker 1: now sort of the secondary and maybe more primary challenge begins,

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Speaker 1: and the hurdle that's got to be cleared is a

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Speaker 1: cleared to maybe get the season off the ground. Eight

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Speaker 1: games in eight weeks, twenty one day mandatory quarantine if

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Speaker 1: you test positive. If more than five percent of your

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Speaker 1: out seven days. You cease all operations for seven days.

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Speaker 1: Point is there's no wiggle room here. The point is

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Speaker 1: they made such a mess of things on the front

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Speaker 1: end that now they don't have any by weeks built in.

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Speaker 1: Now they don't have any reservoir of weeks in between

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Speaker 1: the last week of the regular season and the conference

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Speaker 1: championship game. Like the SEC was able to build in.

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Speaker 1: They just got to get it done. And these are very,

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Speaker 1: very tough hurdles to clear. It's a very fine needle

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Speaker 1: that you have to thread. But we do at least

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Speaker 1: know where we stand in the Big ten. Now we

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Speaker 1: await a schedule release. How about that, the fabled second

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Speaker 1: two of them in the Big Ten. I can tell

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Speaker 1: you our web department doesn't care. They'll take all the

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Speaker 1: traffic they can get. That was not shocking, but I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what it is shocking. Seven am yesterday morning.

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Speaker 1: John Wilner does a great job covering the PAC twelve,

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Speaker 1: best by ten miles covering the PAC twelve. He works,

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Speaker 1: But he put out on Twitter yesterday kind of a

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Speaker 1: synopsis of the day that was in the PAC twelve,

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Speaker 1: and he said, seven am. We woke up on the

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Speaker 1: No one was even talking about playing football in October

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Speaker 1: And by seven pm everything had changed. How did that happen? Well,

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Speaker 1: in football circles, the governor of California, just kind of

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Speaker 1: And everyone did a collective gasp because he said, well,

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Speaker 1: the folks out there took notice. And Larry Scott and Company,

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Speaker 1: whohoa whoa. And then there were subsequently a lot of

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Speaker 1: So anyway, you go throughout the day and then you

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Speaker 1: two guys that did phenomenal reporting today on this. Wilner

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Speaker 1: this Where do we stand tonight? It is currently September seventeenth,

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Speaker 1: seven o eight pm Central Standard time. Where do we stand?

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve is looking to target a Halloween restart Happy

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Speaker 1: Birthday Nick Saban by the way, October thirty. First, they

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Speaker 1: Now what do they need? Well, a few things. They

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like, in other words, there are fifteen parties

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Speaker 1: Then they need a consensus. According to John Wilner, on

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Speaker 1: that is operationally how things would play out. Bruce Feldman

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Speaker 1: physically ready to play by October thirty first. Now, keep

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Speaker 1: quarterback for Georgia Tech. What in the world did he

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Speaker 1: just do? I don't think the second part is going

430
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Speaker 1: to be allowed to happen by Kirby Smart. Cause see,

431
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Speaker 1: here's what Kirby Smart knows he has. He knows he's

432
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Speaker 1: got multiple future NFL offensive lineman, multiple future NFL running backs.

433
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Speaker 1: He's got very dependable and physical assets at wide receiver

434
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Speaker 1: like George Pickens, the guy Colin's showing you right now,

435
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Speaker 1: and he knows he's got a six to six freak

436
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Speaker 1: athlete at quarterback who can fall forward for him on

437
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Speaker 1: any third and short situation, and also a guy who

438
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Speaker 1: can make plays with his legs on broken third and

439
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Speaker 1: long situations. I don't know how many times they are

440
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Speaker 1: going to be throwing the ball, That's what I'm telling you.

441
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Speaker 1: So if you'll remember last year, I want to say

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Speaker 1: it was they opened against Vanderbilt on the road, and

443
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Speaker 1: everyone was excited. They thought there were going to be

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Speaker 1: more elements incorporated into the offense. And as soon as

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart and Dan Lanning and then figured out that

446
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt couldn't get a first down on him, they shut

447
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: it down. And I don't think the Arkansas game will

448
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: be any different. They'll go in there, they'll figure out

449
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Speaker 1: Arkansas can't move the ball on us, and then they'll

450
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Speaker 1: shut it down and they'll get out of there. I

451
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 1: don't care if it's seventeen to six, twenty to three,

452
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: they don't care. They'll get out of there. And they

453
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Speaker 1: would have bought themselves at that time one more week.

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Speaker 1: You could think about that as one more week of camp.

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Speaker 1: That's essentially what I think about the Georgia Arkansas game.

456
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Speaker 1: Even though this isn't a game breakdown. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: the other thing to watch in that Arkansas game, though,

458
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Speaker 1: and to listen to if you're a Georgia fan close

459
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Speaker 1: to the scene up there, Obvious passing downs. In other words,

460
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Speaker 1: obvious pass sets where you know pass pro is going

461
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Speaker 1: to be something you can focus on if you sitting

462
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Speaker 1: there third and seven, for example, don't I'm not gonna

463
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Speaker 1: say I lack confidence. I don't have the slightest clue

464
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Speaker 1: what to expect from Georgia in pass pro early on.

465
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Speaker 1: I know the returns out of their camp have been hey,

466
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Speaker 1: run blocking well ahead of pass pro here, not shocking,

467
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Speaker 1: but what was the end entire gripe at the end

468
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Speaker 1: of last year? Man, In order to get over these

469
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Speaker 1: humps Alabama or LSU, in that case, we got to

470
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Speaker 1: be able to stretch the field, push the ball down

471
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Speaker 1: the field. Well, you got to be able to pass

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Speaker 1: pro in order to do that. So you're not going

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Speaker 1: to play an SEC title game in week one. You're

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Speaker 1: playing Arkansas in week one, but you got to be

475
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Speaker 1: able to eventually get there. So that's what we're watching

476
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Speaker 1: with and hearing from Georgia. How about this question, is

477
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Speaker 1: we kind of transition from Georgia to Alabama. I had

478
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Speaker 1: a Georgia guy ask me in the podcast today what

479
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Speaker 1: do I think about two quarterback systems? And I kind

480
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Speaker 1: of tied it into what I thought is just one

481
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Speaker 1: of the dumbest comments people make about quarterbacks. It's one

482
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Speaker 1: of those where someone said it one time and it

483
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Speaker 1: sounded cool, like it would look good on a bumper sticker,

484
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Speaker 1: So it just stuck and it's not true. Automatically, someone

485
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Speaker 1: said well, you know, if you got two quarterbacks, you

486
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Speaker 1: don't have any quarterbacks, which is trash, It's totally false.

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Speaker 1: Here's what happens. What happens sometimes is you got a

488
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Speaker 1: quarterback battle, and the reason it's a battle, it's cause

489
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Speaker 1: you've got two stud quarterbacks. You could also have a

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Speaker 1: situation where you got no stud quarterback and neither one

491
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Speaker 1: of them's emerged. And so both of those are categorized

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Speaker 1: as quarterback battles. They are night and day different situations.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you all that to tell you this.

494
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Speaker 1: As much as everyone's been talking about the two quarterback

495
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Speaker 1: situation at Georgia, I'm telling you I look at Alabama

496
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Speaker 1: as having a two quarterback situation right now, and by

497
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Speaker 1: that I mean two of them they think they can

498
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Speaker 1: win with. I'm telling you they feel confident. If mac

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Speaker 1: Jones disappear from this planet tonight and they knew they

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Speaker 1: had to start Bryce Young against Missouri next week, that'd

501
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Speaker 1: be comfortable with it. It may change some things, they'd

502
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Speaker 1: be comfortable with it. They think he's going to be

503
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Speaker 1: a star. Steve Sarkisian and that offensive staff really think

504
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Speaker 1: he's going to be a star. My mind goes back

505
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Speaker 1: to a couple of years ago when we were hearing

506
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Speaker 1: similar things about Tuatonuea of Ailoa. No one told you, dude,

507
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts sucks. It was the opposite. Jalen Hurts is

508
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Speaker 1: really good. Mac Jones is really good, but this guy

509
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: behind him is really good too. And so it took

510
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Speaker 1: himTo halftime in the National title game for us to

511
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Speaker 1: see two a tongue of Iiloa play meaningful downs for

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Speaker 1: Alabama that year. I don't think I need to remind

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Speaker 1: you how that game in that season, and the point being,

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Speaker 1: I just have to wonder if it changed anything about

515
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Speaker 1: Nick Saban's approach. As of this moment, I don't think

516
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Speaker 1: there's much doubt Mac Jones is the guy there. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt about that. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any doubt he's the guy who takes the

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Speaker 1: field against Missouri. The only thing that I'm suggesting to

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Speaker 1: you is I go back to that year. You know

521
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Speaker 1: that was a year those Jalen in two a year's

522
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Speaker 1: and this is why it was an ironic statement from

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Speaker 1: a Georgia fan telling me, hey, you got two quarterbacks,

524
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Speaker 1: you have none, dude, Both of those years, a two

525
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Speaker 1: quarterback team beat you, one time for a national title,

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Speaker 1: one time for an SEC title. Did Saban have two

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks or no quarterbacks? I think you had two quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: so you could have a situation in Athens and Tuscaloosa

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Speaker 1: this year ultimately where you got two quarterback situations. The

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Speaker 1: only thing I care about is do you have two

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Speaker 1: you can win with, one you can win with, or

532
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Speaker 1: none that you think you can win with. You got

533
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Speaker 1: to be a lot more nuanced than your understanding of

534
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Speaker 1: this than just saying, oh, there's a quarterback competition here.

535
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Speaker 1: All they got a quarterback controversy, which is a statement

536
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Speaker 1: we never say on this program. We believe in competition

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Speaker 1: and not controversy. The only thing controversial is if none

538
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Speaker 1: of them can win, because then the controversy is what

539
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Speaker 1: in the world are we going to do? So I say

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Speaker 1: all that and I'll move on after this. Remember, as

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Speaker 1: much as your opinion may be formulated on a lot

542
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Speaker 1: of this stuff, if you're a Bama fan, go back

543
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Speaker 1: to a few years ago. You were going into, I believe,

544
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Speaker 1: a season opener against Southern California and Blake Barnett was

545
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Speaker 1: a former five star guy and it was his time

546
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Speaker 1: and it was his team. I think that was the

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Speaker 1: year after A Coker, I believe. Anyway, So Blake Barnett

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Speaker 1: the entire spring, the entire summer, the entire fall camp series.

549
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Speaker 1: That's the guy. He's going to be the starter. And

550
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Speaker 1: there's this kid from Texas who probably going to take

551
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Speaker 1: a couple of years to develop. Then you get a

552
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: little bit further into camp, Hey, that Jalen Hurts kid,

553
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: like here whispers, he's pretty good. He's going to be

554
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Speaker 1: able to be a player in the future. Then you

555
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: get closer to game wee, can Jalen Hurts? Could he

556
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Speaker 1: be pushing for like legitimate playing time? But you had

557
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: it in your mind the whole summer it's Blake Barnett's job.

558
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Speaker 1: So you went month on month on end thinking this

559
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Speaker 1: is Blake Barnett's job. Over the span of like thirty minutes,

560
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: it changed in that season opener. And what I'm telling

561
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: you is that's how quickly this stuff can change. You

562
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,479
Speaker 1: got three or four series that go bad and then

563
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: you got a guy come in and light it up.

564
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: That's how quickly it can change. This is not major

565
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: league baseball. You don't play one hundred and sixty two games.

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Speaker 1: Every snap is so meaningful, especially in this league this year,

567
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Speaker 1: where you're playing ten conference games. No, there is no

568
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Speaker 1: Katala Community College on your schedule to steal a local

569
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Speaker 1: reference geographically from back home. So all I'm saying is

570
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Speaker 1: two quarterback situations could exist far outside of just Athens,

571
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Speaker 1: Georgia this year. Now, how about Florida. As we wrap

572
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Speaker 1: up this segment, how about Florida and specifically offensive line,

573
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Speaker 1: which is where we start and end the questions with

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Speaker 1: Florida virtually every year. Now, it seems I was looking

575
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Speaker 1: at Thomas Goldcamp had some really good coverage and thoughts

576
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: on this over at Swamp twenty four seven yesterday or today.

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Speaker 1: This is the key to Florida season. As I said,

578
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Speaker 1: it always seems to be. Thomas Goldcamp made some good

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Speaker 1: points here, and I'm not so I'm sure I don't

580
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Speaker 1: agree with him. I think he looks at the situation

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Speaker 1: and they are not all American caliber by any stretch

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Speaker 1: at a lot of these positions, especially tackle, and I,

583
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Speaker 1: like him, am still concerned about their ability when they

584
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Speaker 1: face elite edge rushers. And it's gonna happen several times

585
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: a year when you play in the league Florida does. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying there without concern, but I think there

587
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: is promise to be found here, and the fact that

588
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: they do return a lot of guys and returning starters

589
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: is not the end all be all, but they got

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Speaker 1: a combination here that I think is promising. They got

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Speaker 1: returning experience, and finally they got a group of guys

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Speaker 1: that aren't having to learn a new system again. And

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00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: it's been a rotating door of different philosophies down there

594
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Speaker 1: for a little while. If you're a Florida offensive lineman. So, yeah,

595
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Speaker 1: they may have question marks tackle and what is the

596
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: best combination. Do you have true sec caliber offensive tackles

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Speaker 1: playing tackle or do you got guys that have really

598
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: more been recruited to play interior having to kick out

599
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: there for lack of options. Yeah, that's a question. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing you can't take solace in.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'll see a ton of con fusion.

602
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: So if they don't get it done, it's just cause

603
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: they're flat out not good enough. I don't think it's

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00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: going to be a lot of well, he's talented, why

605
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: did he wif there? That's there you go at week one,

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00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: Week two, week three installation problems. Don't think that's going

607
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: to be the theme with Florida this year. All right.

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Speaker 1: I intentionally didn't talk about South Carolina there because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to talk about South Carolina here. This was who

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Speaker 1: It was a heated day in Columbia, South Carolina. I

611
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: did radio over in the Carolinas today with Mark, Ryan

612
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: and Man. Yeah. Apparently you guys had been calling in

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Speaker 1: long before I did over there. Will Muschamp named Colin

614
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Speaker 1: Hill the starter at Carolina, not Ryan Halenski. Colin Hill.

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00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: Colin Hill, if you're unfamiliar, is a transfer. He's a

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Speaker 1: grad transfer. Came in from Colorado State. Yes, the same

617
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Speaker 1: Colorado state that new offensive coordinator Mike Bobo was that.

618
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: So there was the connection and a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I'll give credit to Sherbert and the guys over at

620
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Speaker 1: the Big Spur. They were on this for quite a while.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone who's a member over there is

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Speaker 1: surprised at this announcement. And you know, they kind of

623
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: flagged this thing several weeks in advance, so what they

624
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: flagged ends up becoming a reality. Colin Hill is named

625
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: the starter for the Tennessee game. I am intentionally phrasing

626
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: it like that because I don't think really a whole

627
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: lot of decision has been made past that. Let's dive

628
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: into this, as is usually the case anytime you got

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Speaker 1: a quarterback battle, it is inevitably did the head coach

630
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: make the right call? Did Will must Champ make the

631
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: right call? Ninety nine percent of the time, I'm going

632
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: to answer yes, because it's the head coach's team, so

633
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: he tends to know a little bit more than I

634
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: do sitting behind the microphone. But for those of you

635
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Speaker 1: who are split on this, or those of you who

636
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: are on the other side of the fence and you

637
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: think Ryan Hilensky was done wrong, I've talked to some

638
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: of you today already. I'm going to ask this. I'm

639
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: not going to insult your opinion. It's your opinion, just

640
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: like I got one. One's not worth more than the

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Speaker 1: other one. But I'll ask you if you think that

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Speaker 1: Ryan Hilensky was done wrong here, if you think the

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Speaker 1: wrong decision was made, what are you selling? That's really

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Speaker 1: what it comes down to. If you're Will must Champ,

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Speaker 1: what is your program selling and who are you accountable

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Speaker 1: to cause. My feelings on this have always been feelings

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Speaker 1: and loyalty, Like those things are really great if you're

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Speaker 1: putting together a piece council, that's wonderful and you can

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Speaker 1: afford to do it there they do not mix with

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Speaker 1: the true theme of competition. Feelings and loyalty can get

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Speaker 1: in the way of the theme of competition. So when

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Speaker 1: I ask what are you selling? What are you selling?

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Speaker 1: When you're Will must Champ when he went into Ryan

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Speaker 1: Helensky's living room, when they talked to Colin Hill about

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Speaker 1: coming in, did they tell one of them in this case,

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Speaker 1: I guess Helensky. Did they tell Helensky this is your job?

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Speaker 1: You know, you commit here, you come here, It's going

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Speaker 1: to be your job unless you, you know, decide to leave.

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Speaker 1: You get hurt like it's going to be your job.

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Speaker 1: Did they sell him on that. If they did, he

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Speaker 1: was done wrong. I tend to believe Will mus Champ

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Speaker 1: doesn't recruit like that. I tend to believe they recruit

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Speaker 1: on the basis of competition, and that's the way the

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Speaker 1: big boys do it. I can assure you Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: sits in your living room and has no problem telling

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Speaker 1: you the Day, you come on campus, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: recruit over you. Ryan Day's doing the same thing. Kirby

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Speaker 1: Smart's doing the same thing. And yeah, they got a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys who transfer out of there, but they

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Speaker 1: also win a lot, don't they. And so what kind

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Speaker 1: of culture do you want instilled into your program there?

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Speaker 1: Do you want one where someone is stroked on the cheek?

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Speaker 1: And well, you've been here longer, it's your job. You

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Speaker 1: can have it. You can also go four and eight.

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Speaker 1: Don't be calling for a guy's job if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: complain when he makes his choice as to who he thinks.

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Speaker 1: And this is a key part of this entire argument.

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Speaker 1: Gives his team the best chance to win Because when

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Speaker 1: I asked about accountability, Will mus Champs not accountable to

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Speaker 1: Ryan Heilensky. He is accountable to his entire locker room.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Helensky included, who gives those guys the best chance

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Speaker 1: to win? Will Mush champion coach another twenty years? Those

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Speaker 1: guys get three or four five years in college. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he's accountable to them. It's really important to put

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Speaker 1: the right guy on the field. Here's my question. How

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Speaker 1: convinced is Will Mush Champ, this is the right move.

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Speaker 1: I know he's the head man there and it falls

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Speaker 1: on his shoulders and he's the one who makes the announcement.

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Speaker 1: But what if we talked about all off season with Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Mike Bobo came in and he's a new offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Everyone believes in him. Hype is through the roof, and

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Speaker 1: my assumption has been maybe this is the first time

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Speaker 1: mush Champs got a coordinator there he fully trust. He's

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Speaker 1: fully willing to just toss to and say, all right,

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Speaker 1: you got offense, man, I'll be over here if you

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Speaker 1: need me. I'm asking that because of this. For all

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Speaker 1: we know, I can't confirm this. I have not heard this,

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Speaker 1: but I'm saying, for all we know, it could have

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Speaker 1: been a dynamic where mush Champ was sitting there saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, if all things are equal, I'd probably like

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Speaker 1: to lean Ryan Helensky and Mike Bobo said, Colin Hill's

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Speaker 1: my guy. I think he's the guy who gives us

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Speaker 1: the best shot to win. And what if will mush

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Speaker 1: Champ said, if that's your guy, that's your guy. That's

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Speaker 1: what I hired you to do. You don't know, nor

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Speaker 1: do I if that's the way it actually played out.

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Speaker 1: So a competition can be a give and competition can

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Speaker 1: be a take. Because as far as I could hear today,

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Speaker 1: all Will mush Champ said was Colin Hill's our starter

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Speaker 1: for Tennessee. I hope Ryan Kilensky heard that as a

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Speaker 1: one week decision. That's really what I hope he heard,

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Speaker 1: because unless something drastically bad happens, I know that South

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Speaker 1: Carolina scheduled to have a game the next week and

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Speaker 1: the week after that and the week after that, So

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Speaker 1: you're one injury away, you're one two or three series

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Speaker 1: stretch away from being right back on that field and

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Speaker 1: taking the job back. So I really hope that's the

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Speaker 1: mentality that Ryan Hlensky has. So again, shout out to

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Speaker 1: the Big spur Man, because they were way ahead of

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Speaker 1: this over there. So much of this, though, this is

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Speaker 1: the point I want to make, is out of Colin

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Speaker 1: Hill's hands, regardless. He could be the right choice for

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Speaker 1: all I know, and it's still out of his hands

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Speaker 1: because if offensive line doesn't pan out over there, it's

725
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Speaker 1: irrelevant if that running back stable with Marshawn Lloyd out,

726
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Speaker 1: if they don't fall into place behind him, if wide

727
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Speaker 1: receivers not dependable if they don't have their right together defensively,

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Speaker 1: so much that's out of Colin In fact, all of

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00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: it's out of Colin Hills control. So I say all

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Speaker 1: that to say, let's not watch the first three series

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Speaker 1: of this Tennessee game and say all right, well, I've

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Speaker 1: made my conclusion, and for that matter, I would encourage

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Speaker 1: you make your decision now, whether you love the move

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Speaker 1: or hate the move, make the move now. One of

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Speaker 1: the founding principles on this show that we have is

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Speaker 1: we do not do armchair quarterbacking, and we don't do

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Speaker 1: hindsight quarterbacking. We don't wait to see how things turn

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Speaker 1: out in order to decide whether a decision was the

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Speaker 1: right one because the decision maker never had the benefit

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Speaker 1: of hindsight. Well, mus Champ cannot afford to sit around

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Speaker 1: and wait till laugh at the Tennessee game, watch the film,

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Speaker 1: watch the replay five times, and then decide whether it

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Speaker 1: was the right decision or not. You take the information

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Speaker 1: you have at hand currently and then you make the

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Speaker 1: best decision to hopefully put you in a position to

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Speaker 1: win moving forward. So if you have a problem with

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Speaker 1: this decision, state it now and I have no problem

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Speaker 1: with you complaining if things go off the rails. What

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear is we'll see how it

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Speaker 1: goes and then you jump down his throat six weeks

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00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: from now that they'll tolerate some places. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're going to tolerate it. Here the Rama Noodle Express.

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Speaker 1: It is our first feature, Ramen Noodle Express of the year.

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Speaker 1: Here's how this works. We release our early favorite bet

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Speaker 1: of the entire week on the Sunday Night show. And

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Speaker 1: we did that what was it four nights ago now,

757
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Speaker 1: and we gave you I believe the Duke game Duke

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Speaker 1: minus six, and then Tuesday night we gave you another one.

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Speaker 1: We gave you a Notre Dame minus twenty five and

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Speaker 1: a half. I could hand these out at any point

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Speaker 1: in the week. It just turns out that tonight we're

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Speaker 1: giving you the final three plays and the Ramen Noodle Express,

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Speaker 1: so hopefully you don't have to eat them this upcoming week. Colin,

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Speaker 1: Let's do it Ramen Noodle Express. Final three picks. Liberty

765
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Speaker 1: is opening the season at Western Kentucky. I am not

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Speaker 1: doing breakdowns on these games. These are data based picks.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a lot of anecdotal

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Speaker 1: reasoning behind it. I'm not going to break down the

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Speaker 1: interior offensive line situation for the Liberty Flames. I'm just

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Speaker 1: telling you they're giving us fourteen in a hook, and

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Speaker 1: we are taking those points. We love the under in

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Speaker 1: UCF versus Georgia tech. Likewise, we love the under and

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Speaker 1: the Miami Louisville game, and that has ballooned up from

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Speaker 1: fifty nine to sixty four and a half. Has it

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Speaker 1: crested probably, so I jump on that right now. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we have already jumped on all these. So those are

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Speaker 1: the five picks in the debut edition for at least

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season of The Ramen Noodle Express. If

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Speaker 1: again you disagree with any of these plays, I'll be

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Speaker 1: happy to listen to you. Now, what we won't have

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Speaker 1: any time for is you to come in at seven

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Speaker 1: thirty eight pm on Saturday night and tell us how

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Speaker 1: bad the picks were that we don't have time for, cause,

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Speaker 1: like I just said, well, well must champ. We will

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Speaker 1: not have the benefit of hindsight on these bets, so

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Speaker 1: we don't want you to have it. Either speak now

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Speaker 1: or forever. Hold your peace. We will have, as I said,

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Speaker 1: our best bet for week four when the SEC is

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Speaker 1: cranking up on Sunday Night, so be sure to be

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Speaker 1: here for the Sunday Night show. Our Sunday night shows

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Speaker 1: an hour, didn't We always around forty minutes. So we'll

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Speaker 1: my face every week, but thank you for sticking with

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Speaker 1: enjoy the games. We'll see you back here Sunday night.

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