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And if you want to get a 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: date on the phrase ring fence, you sort of within 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: the jargon of it, go back to seven in n 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: run regulatory chat and it's just sort of thing. Neil Sauce, 28 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: the Credit Sweez codified the phrase as far as I'm concerned, 29 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: around August of two thousand seven, where we we we 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: needed to ring fence our financial crisis. James Sweeney's with us, 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: working with Dr Sauce every day at Credit Sweez. What 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: are we ring fencing right now? Nominal gdp UM. I 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: think we are ring frencing the bond market. We've heard 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: that this week. Yeah, we're keeping yields law. And you know, 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: you could go back in time to the post war 36 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: period when yields were very low when World War two 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: ended and they rose very slowly for the next two 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: or three decades, and um, you know, I don't know 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: whether we have the same world, and that is possible, 40 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: but it appears that the central banks are going to 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: do what it takes to keep risk premier, low duration, low, 42 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: long term yields low for a variety of reasons. UM, 43 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: they say it's to keep inflation near two percent. The 44 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: trouble is it in the US case, core inflation is 45 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 1: drifting up above two So there's a conflict. How long 46 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: can we keep this uh uncoordinated coordinated action going? Well 47 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: that obviously it depends on inflation. I think that we 48 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: will see the labor market continue to tighten in the US. 49 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: I think we're seeing wages at the low end of 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: the of the scale start to rise, low end of 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: the income distribution, which is which is helpful UM. But 52 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: financial markets, I think the outlook for returns and in 53 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: a lot of asset classes is really not great right 54 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: now on a medium term perspective. And fragilities and markets 55 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: around the world, given given especially concerns about China are high. 56 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: So there's there's that the tension is large. I think 57 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna keep it this way as long 58 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: as they can. There's no chance that we get any 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: kind of non monetary help for the global economy. No, 60 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: And the the reason, UM, the reason simply printing money 61 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and handing it out to people who would spend it 62 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: immediately UM is not likely to happen anytime soon. Is 63 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: because the costs of such a policy are very high 64 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: relative to the benefits of getting inflation somewhat higher, especially 65 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: in places where really UM Unemployment is low. In the US, 66 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 1: unemployment is low, in Japan, it's low. In Europe it's high, 67 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: but but falling. Uh. We don't really have economies and collapse. 68 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: We just have low productivity and income distribution concerns, and 69 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: that makes us unhappy and full of angst. But I'm 70 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: not sure central banks can actually set productivity or make 71 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: people feel good when they're when their wages aren't going up, 72 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: all other people's are. How do we break out of this? Uh? 73 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: While it probably requires fiscal measures or it requires some 74 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: changes in the world, I'm I'm optimistic over the long 75 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: term that we will have UH some more productivity. There 76 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: will be new waves of technology. I think we have 77 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: hacked had actually a lot of technology in the past 78 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years. It's just it's not that hype 79 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: that really drives GDP immediately. But it isn't our history 80 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: when we have a jump condition and technology. Let's think railroads, 81 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: that we go through a decade or two of failures 82 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: before coal US is into real value, productivity and growth, 83 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: and maybe all the mumbo jumbo is starting about is 84 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: a couple of decades. And do you have any optimism 85 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: that five ten, twenty years out it coal US is 86 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: into legitimate morning in America? I do? I do. I 87 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: think the the antidote to reading a lot of Robert 88 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: Gordon is reading a lot of Ray Kurts while and 89 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: and and thinking about, um, how the world is changing 90 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: on the ground and what smart machines are gonna do 91 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: for us. I mean, they might not solve our distribution problems, 92 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: but they sure are going to give us a lot 93 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: of products. And that and Mike, that goes to Bryn 94 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Jolson and McAfee and they're wonderful book of of a 95 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: year ago. Mike, I think it is you know, we 96 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: do this with Laron when we talk about the Jets 97 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: and they go under five hundred. Is it too rude 98 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: to mention how short Florida State season was in basketball? 99 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: I mean, is it two rude? We did it? We 100 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: just did it. Was I looked at my bracket, they 101 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: weren't there, So they were in that other tournament and 102 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: then they weren't there. What happened, James, My my n 103 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: I T bracket is not doing some kind of in 104 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: an I T bracket nerd. But they're a young team. 105 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I think they've got good recruits coming in next year. 106 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: They've got good freshman this year. Don't don't you wear 107 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: in North Carolina and Duke in Syracuse and year? Okay, 108 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: but seriously, Florida State basketball is that like duke football? 109 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you guys are so dominant with 110 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: the Duke football has been all right in the last 111 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: three or four years. Yeah, but it's definitely overshadowed by 112 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: another team on campus. We've gotten through twenty four minutes 113 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: of this hour without me mentioning the total clips was 114 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: that song? Total eclipse of the sun? Total eclipse of 115 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: my bracket? I don't even want to mention that was 116 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: not a good day yesterday for a lot of people, 117 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: linked the people in this room. Uh, you know, it 118 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be the first day of spring on Sunday, 119 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: and it is the earliest spring since eighteen ninety six. 120 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: It all has to do with the vernal equinox we'll 121 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: talk about school should have learned later in the program 122 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Vital Equinox. They were so damn good. 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