1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Done before the season even begins. Welcome Bird Gang. On 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: today's show, Zachershman joins me, it's not the news anyone 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: wanted to hear. Bj Ju Laurie did indeed suffer a 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: season ending injury to his left knee at Friday's practice. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: He will not play this season. Just an absolute crushing 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: blow for him and the team. So now what what 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: are the options moving forward? Plus Zamon Collins's future is 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: no longer in doubt? And what stood out in the 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: red and white practice. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: to seventy eight, and it starts now. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: Who to Baker? 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: He's a a ten half of five. He's in again 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: some more Hurry magic. 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: Wow, here's Craigrailer. 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about you, Zach, but I did not 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: have a good feeling watching Bjo Joli get help as 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: he left the field towards the end of practice on Friday. 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: It didn't look good, and now we know it isn't good. 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon confirming on Saturday that yes, spe Jo Joli 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: is done for the season with a knee injury. It's 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: his left knee. According to reports, it's a torn acl 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: But it was what five minutes left to go in practice, 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: less than ten minutes, and he was going one on 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: one with Jonah Williams during eleven on eleven team session 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: and just did what Gannon called a normal bending the 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: corner move for an edge rusher and the knee just 32 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: gave out on him. 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: It was a very challenging scene to watch, seeing him 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: lay down on the field, and once the trainers went 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: out there and you could see them pointing towards the knee, 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: that's when you started to speculate that this was not 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: just a typical bruise, that this was something a little 38 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: bit more. And it's unfortunate because when we talk all 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: about this second year jump from players, the first player 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: we always mentioned is bj Ojalari, the first player that 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: the staff has raved about so much in this second 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: year jump based off of whether it's destride changes that 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: he made. You're literally changing the way you even walk. 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: You're changing everything in order to give it your all 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: on Sundays, and it's unfortunate, especially considering Bjays started the 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: season last year coming off of an injury and he 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: slowly but surely was getting back into it, he was 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: getting back into the groove. To see it in his 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: first healthy offseason was it's definitely challenging to see this happen. 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Four sacks last season, the only player on the defensive 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: side of the only rookie on the defensive side of 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: the ball to play every single game a year ago, 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: and as you mentioned that, there was a lot of excitement 54 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: for Ojlari coming into what was going to be his 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: second year. That year one to year two jump you 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: talked about his stride, he added eight to ten pounds. 57 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 3: He's looked good. 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: He's been looking explosive off the line of scrimmage. New number, 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: maybe new player, and it's a position of need, which 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: we will get to. But you really hate it for 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: the person because of how much work Ojulari put in 62 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: during this offseason, first time having a full off season, 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: a healthy offseason as an NFL player, and now his 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: season is done before it even begins. 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: Bettherlone, that I mean, he was working so much during 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 3: your draft process. You're trying to get selected by a team, 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: you're trying to show your worth, and he was still 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: dealing with that injury, and unfortunately, you know, he missed 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: a good chunk of training camp last year, but we 70 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: were able to see him in that preseason finale against 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, and as you mentioned, how he was 72 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: able to still play and still be an active contributor 73 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: to this defensive line during the regular season. The new number, 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: I think is also quite fascinating because he did say, 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: and he spoke very highly, if you're gonna be wearing 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: a single digit number, you gotta flash, you gotta shine. 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: He was saying, he's no doubt about it that he 78 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: could have double digit sacked this season, and it's a 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: we keep going back to it. It's a shame because 80 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: he's also a great guy and you never want that 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: to happen for a nice, humble guy like Bijo Jalari. 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: Is just it's very unfortunate. 83 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: Ojli was going to play a huge role within this 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: defense at a position of need at outside linebacker, rushing 85 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback. We know the issues the team had a 86 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: year ago getting to the opposing quarterback. And it's the 87 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: unfortunate part of this business. When someone goes down, well, 88 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: the season doesn't stop. It continues. And now the question is, 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: all right, what do the Arizona Cardinals do without Ojli 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: on the field this season? According to head coach Jonathan Gannon, quote, 91 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: all things are on the table in terms of options. 92 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: Is that internal? Is that external? And is it external? 93 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Is it a free agent? It is an acquisition via 94 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: a trade. Fascinating to see how this all plays out 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: over the next twenty. 96 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: Four forty eight hours. I think also, and I'm not 97 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: sure if this is just me, and you could correct me, 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: but I think this also the way Jonathan Gannon stood 99 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: up in front of the media showed a lot of 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: maturity as a head coach too, because I remember last 101 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 3: year one of the major injuries we saw during this 102 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: time in training camp was Marlon Mack when he went 103 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: down with his achilles, and we saw how frustrated and 104 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: how visibly upset Jonathan Gannon was. Obviously he cares about 105 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: the players, but he recognized this is the this is 106 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: the known unknown, or this is just what you know 107 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 3: is gonna happen football. It's inevitable all the guys in 108 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: that locker room. No injuries are a part of the games. 109 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: So to see him stand up there and you know, 110 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: recognize that, hey, we're still going. This is this We 111 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: don't stop here. We still have the Saints this coming weekend. 112 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: We still have a regular season game against Buffalo Week 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: one down there at Orchard Park. So they're still gonna 114 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: be a full season going on now. Whether it comes 115 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: to trade or free agency, there's options out there. And 116 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: one of the things that we talked a lot about 117 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: during the draft process free agency is are you going 118 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: to be bringing in in Ed Rusher and the Cardinals 119 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: outside of drafting Xavier Thomas did not do that. Does 120 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: that come back to bite them? I wouldn't necessarily say that, 121 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 3: but there are still options there on the. 122 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: Table the In addition to Xavier Thomas, you've got Zavion Collins, 123 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck Cameron Thomas, Victor d mckagee, Jesse Loketta, and 124 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: Tyriek Smith. Those are your outside linebackers. As far as 125 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: internal options, do you run it back? I'm gonna add 126 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: another name to that mix. And I brought it up 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: earlier on past episodes of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, 128 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Spectum can give you 129 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: two other names. One is Mac Wilson Senior, because we 130 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: have seen him a year ago, late last season with 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots rushing the quarterback and looking very good. Have 132 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: seen him out here going through pass rush drills with 133 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the outside linebackers. And then there's Darius 134 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Robinson and the rest of the defensive line. I'm not 135 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: saying Darius is now going to be a stand up 136 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: outside linebacker. I do believe he is still going to 137 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: be in that three point stance, but now he becomes 138 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: even maybe more importance, and that defensive line overall, more 139 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: pressure from those three or four guys. That interior pressure 140 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: maybe benefits a Xavin Collins or Dennis Gardek to where 141 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: we believe those sack numbers from a year ago were 142 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: already going to increase because of what we did on 143 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: the defensive line. So let's see what Zavian can do 144 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: with a full year under his belts at outside linebacker. 145 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardik, can he recreate what he did once upon 146 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: a time ago several years ago. And then, as Caannon mentioned, 147 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: the young Buck and Xavier Thomas fifth round selection. He's 148 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: played a number of years in college. Can he be 149 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: maybe a surprise this season? 150 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: You hit the nail on the head out the defensive line. 151 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: The defensive line automatically improved the outside linebacker room. That's 152 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: just a matter of fact. While they didn't address it 153 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: necessarily outside of xt they still reinforced and add a 154 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: lot to that defensive line room, which is going to 155 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: open up opportunities for those outside linebackers to get to 156 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 3: the quarterback. The Cardinals would not have brought back Zavin 157 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: Collins in the way that they did to sign him 158 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: through that two year contract extension, which I'm sure we'll 159 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: talk about. They would not have done that if they 160 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: did not see a soon to be productive season of 161 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: student to be productive two seasons with the team up 162 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: through the twenty twenty six season, if that were not 163 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: to be the case. Now, with going back to the 164 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: players you mentioned, Mack Wilson, he's looked very explosive out here. 165 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: We've seen him bull rush, especially along along the edge. 166 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: He's tried getting to the quarterback quot unquote quarterback because 167 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: it's really just a scout or an assistant coach that's 168 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: out there taking in the snap during these one on 169 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: one drills. But he's looked really good. When you draft 170 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: a guy like Darius Robinson, this is the exact benefit 171 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 3: of drafting a guy with that level of versatility, because 172 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: we did see him at Missouri stand up and rush 173 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: the quarterback. And I remember Craig watching tape with you 174 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: about Darius Robinson saying, look at the way he just 175 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: bull rushed those tackles. We've also seen him so far 176 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: in these practices in the interior he has gone to 177 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 3: the quarterback. He add a TfL yesterday that some of 178 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: the players were talking about that on a Friday. I mean, 179 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: he's looked really solid as well. So while losing BJ hurts, 180 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: it doesn't drastically change everything, but it definitely still stings 181 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: a lot. 182 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: By the way, Darius last year at Missouri eight and 183 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: a half sacks, a career high, and that was again 184 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: in a three point stance and standing up along the 185 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. So we'll see how much of that 186 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: a couple other guys internally, and then we can find 187 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: a focus on free agency and a trade potentially. Victor 188 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: d mccagee and I'm looking back at his stats from 189 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: a year ago, four sacks last season, and then Cameron Thomas, 190 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: who is on the last year of his rookie deal, 191 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of been quiet so far here at Cards camp. 192 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: Can he do something? And again we're talking internal options 193 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: right now because you've got seven outside linebackers plus Mac 194 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: Wilson Senior, plus Darius Robinson and that entire defensive line. 195 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Do we see now more of Buddha Baker closer to 196 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, maybe even a Jalen Thompson to 197 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: try to force that pressure on opposing quarterbacks to collapse 198 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: the pocket. I don't know as far as internal, but 199 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: nobody knows. Right Again, that's it. 200 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: That's the beautiful thing about having a rotation in the 201 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: way that this squad does is imagine if it was 202 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: Jess Xavin Collins and b j O Jolari as your 203 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: two edge rushers and you kept only about four or 204 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: five in the room. That changes the entire scheme of 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: this Arizona Cardinals defense if that were to be the case. 206 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 3: Fortunately it's not. They like to rotate. They like to 207 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: have different schemes. We saw two man fronts, we saw 208 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: four man fronts. We've seen three defensive linemen and two 209 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: edge rushers. This entire scheme has there's you cannot It's 210 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 3: not a predictable scheme. You don't know when Nick Rolis 211 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: is gonna throw your way. If you're an opposing offense. 212 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: I mean a guy like Jalen Thompson had his first 213 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: career sack in the game against the Houston Texans last year. 214 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: They have no problems throwing that safety blitz out there. 215 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: The versatility of this team certainly comes as a benefit, 216 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: especially in times like these when you do have players 217 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: that are going to be sidelined. 218 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: Cardinals do have one open roster spot two once Ojulari 219 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: is placed on ir ending his season. Then if you 220 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: go outside the external candidates, are they better than what 221 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: you already have in house? Meaning maybe more talented but 222 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: new to this defensive scheme, this defensive system. Everyone that's 223 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: already on the roster, this is going into year two 224 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: with Nick Rowlis. But some of the names out there, 225 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: and I've read it constantly, those free agents, the big 226 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: names still available on the outside linebacker market, Yannick and 227 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Gokwe twenty nine years old, four sacks last season with 228 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: the Bears. Carl Lawson twenty nine years old, recently worked 229 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: out for the Cowboys. Charles Harris, another twenty nine year 230 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: old veteran. Those are the veteran names on the free 231 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: agent market. So you're Manti Austin Fort, You're getting on 232 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: the phone, You're talking with your personnel people. What do 233 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: we do? Do we get someone in here, work them out? 234 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Just how in shape are they? No one else has 235 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: signed them? Lost and again mentioned recently worked out with 236 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. We'll see what his future is. Marcus Golden 237 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately would have been a great story, but he is 238 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: now with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Are returning to the Pittsburgh Steelers. 239 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: So some of the free agents out there that could 240 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: be available, but you have to weigh paying them, as 241 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: veterans like to say, get off the couch. Money entice 242 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: them to come here, and then you get him here 243 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: for a workout. Are they ready? Are they in shape? Yeay? 244 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: Iinkton Cockway. I've checked his instagram. He's been posting a 245 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: lot of different activities of what it looks like to 246 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: be just like a local high school field, showing his 247 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: pass rushing skills. He clearly is still trying to stay 248 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: sharp ahead of an opportunity when that opens up, but 249 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: injuries have decimated so far throughout the entire NFL, especially 250 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: in the defensive side of the ball. We've seen a 251 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: lot of teams get that. Unfortunately car the unfortunate card 252 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: dealt to them. Now the Arizona Cardinals the latest victim 253 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: of that. These free agency targets are going to start 254 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: coming off the market before we know it, especially once 255 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: you have a game under your belt that's going to 256 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: be coming up this weekend for a lot of these teams, 257 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: or this coming weekend rather with the Arizona Cardinals and 258 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 3: the Saints in that first preseason opener. So rosters already 259 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: have started to change, They're going to continue to change, 260 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: so you want to start to get ahead. I think 261 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: Gianniic has looked really good on a social media Obviously, 262 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: Carl Lawson trying out with some other teams. So the 263 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: players are are active. But it really comes down to it, 264 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: if this is just a one year rental, quote unquote, 265 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: could that be the case, how much money are you 266 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: willing to spend because you do expect to get a 267 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: bi Joe Jilari back next season. You now know that 268 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 3: you have Zavian Collins under contract, so you have you 269 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: have the core of your team still returning next year, 270 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: how much money are you want to spend? But fortunately 271 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are near the top of the league when 272 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: it comes to the cap, so they have a lot 273 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: of opportunities to bring players in. 274 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of money to spend, the other option is via trade, 275 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: and there are two names out there that are looking 276 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: for money as far as contract extensions. One is Hasan 277 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Reddick again, great story, bring him back, unhappy with his 278 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: situation now with the New York Jets. The other is 279 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: Matthew Judon unhappy with this situation with the New England Patriots. 280 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: So there you would have to give up something players, 281 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: draft pack, draft capital, and then sign them. So it's 282 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: a two step process. You got to give up something 283 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: and then get those guys under contract so that they're happy. 284 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: All of those scenarios that we talk about as far 285 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: as outside. The other factor besides the money and the 286 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: draft capital or the personnel that you have to give 287 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: up is remember what Nick Rollis said on Friday when 288 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: he was praising bjo Jalari being that complete outside linebacker. 289 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: It's not just rushing the quarterback. Can you drop into coverage, 290 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: can you set the edge they ask a lot of 291 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: their outside linebackers to the point we kind of get 292 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: lost that what's the sack total, what's the pressure total, 293 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: what's the hurries the knockdowns? Well, they're not always doing that. 294 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: Maybe their job is to make sure that running back 295 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: stays towards the middle of the field, or they're dropping 296 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: into coverage to protect the middle for a tight end 297 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: coming across or a running back coming across. So it's 298 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: not just I don't think right now this team has 299 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: a roster spot or the GM feels that there can 300 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: be a roster spot afforded to a player who only 301 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: has one job and that's third down, obvious passing situation, 302 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: and the job is go get to the quarterback. 303 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think another aspect that we should really touch 304 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: on is the culture fit. That's something that's been a 305 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: trademark with the Jonathan Gannon Mono Austin for a regime 306 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: has been how did they fit in this locker room? 307 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: Because they're gonna be coming in They're gonna be coming 308 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: into a very tight knit outside linebacker room, especially if 309 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: that were to be the case if they were to 310 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: bring somebody in, whether it's through free agency or via trade, 311 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: I mean, think about it, Craig. We talked with Dennis 312 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: Gardek during the offseason and he said, we had a 313 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: lot of critical meetings with one another, a lot of 314 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: we we talked critically about players. We criticize each other's work, 315 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 3: but in order to make each other better. It wasn't 316 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: pointing fingers. It was hey, we're gonna hold you accountable. 317 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: How is how is a player that's gonna be coming 318 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: into a system gonna adapt to that. That's something super important. 319 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: But two of the players that you mentioned, when it 320 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: comes to the contract extension, yes, you have to give 321 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: up something and you have to pay them as well, 322 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: matthan Matthew Judon who knows him really well, Mac Wilson. 323 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 3: There's already a connection there, having that interior and outside line, 324 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: that inside linebacker, that outside linebacker duo between the two, 325 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: that's super important. We already know about Hassan Reddick's success 326 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: with Johnathan Gannon and Nick Rolis and Philadelpha. They also 327 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: worked very hand in hand and Hassan Reddick had his 328 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: best season out there in Philadelphia with Jonathan Gannon. So 329 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 3: there is a connection and there's still some familiarity. And 330 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: also Mani Austin for it's time with the New England 331 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: Patriots as well. He knows Matthew Judon. So there's a 332 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: lot of different things that come into play. The league 333 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: is so small, exactly, and it's some good connections because 334 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 3: what do you know in your past? Is there a 335 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: reason to bring them? Is there a reason not to 336 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: bring them based off your previous relationships or connections with 337 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: those players. So again, I fully expect this team to 338 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: go out and add someone to that room. The question 339 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: is who and then is it someone just to kind 340 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: of get reps and maybe make the roster or someone 341 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: that all right, he's on the team, he's the guy. 342 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 3: I just I don't know as far as the cash 343 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: and then draft capital if it is via trade. A 344 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: lot of things come into play. I don't know why 345 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: this keeps popping into my head, but all I could 346 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: think about is the Cardinal bringing in Jeff Swain last season, 347 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: a guy that nobody, not many people really knew by name. 348 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: His name did not stand out, but he was a 349 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: critical key part of that offense and especially in the 350 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 3: run blocking game. And it wasn't the prettiest of tasks 351 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: that he had to do, but he had to get 352 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: back out there. So that kind of goes back to 353 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: what you're saying, Craig about you might not need the guy. 354 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: You already have. Some of the guys already in the 355 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: room in a XAVI and Collins in a Dennis Gardck. 356 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: Those are guys that you know what they're going to 357 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: be able to bring to the table. But how can 358 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: an addition, if you do decide to bring somebody in, 359 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: how can an addition compliment them while also working just 360 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: in general for themselves. 361 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: A couple of times you've brought up Zavon and the 362 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: contract extension, as if there wasn't enough going on Saturday. 363 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: At least some positive news on Saturday, the Arizona Cardinals 364 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: and Zamon Collins coming to a contract extension and agreements 365 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: two years and according to reports, I believe it was 366 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,719 Speaker 1: ESPN's Adam Schefter the first to report the deal and 367 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: the numbers fourteen million with just a little over eleven 368 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: million guaranteed. Remember, Collins did not have his fifth year 369 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: option picked up. He was scheduled to become a free 370 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: agent at the time that that option was not exercise. 371 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: Gim Moni jausin Ford, telling Burns and Gamble that no, 372 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: we want, we hope Zavon Collins is still a part 373 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: of this team moving forward, just not at that thirteen 374 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: million dollars price tag for twenty twenty five. And Zavon himself, Yeah, 375 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: disappointed that fifth year option wasn't picked up, but express's 376 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: interest in Hey, I'm still gonna come here every day. 377 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully things get worked out, and they do in the 378 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: terms of a two year extension now signed through twenty 379 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: twenty six. 380 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: It's so awesome because Zavon is the guy that Jonathan 381 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: Gannon has used as a sounding board a lot when 382 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: it comes to the defensive side of the ball. He 383 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: has really immersed himself, especially within the leadership in the 384 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: New Culture, as being one of the guys to be 385 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: able to speak out and say something if they ever 386 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: felt was right. And when the decision came to a 387 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: decline his fifth year option, I don't want to I 388 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 3: don't want to necessarily say that people were surprised because 389 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: right away from the jump MANI Austin Ford said, but 390 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: we do still like Zavian and we do still see 391 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: a future with Zavian. Nick Roalis John again and both 392 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: echoing the same exact things to see the Cardinals come 393 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: to terms with him, extending him and keeping him under 394 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: contract through the twenty twenty sixth season. I think also 395 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 3: shows the other players on this roster that that's not 396 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: just all talk, that they genuinely believe that if we 397 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: still see a future with you, we might have to 398 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: make the hard decision of declining your fifth year option, 399 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: but we are not giving up on you. And I 400 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: think that that's something that Zavi and Collins I would 401 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: assume helped him throughout this training camp processes. He knows 402 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 3: he has the support from his head coach and his GM, 403 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: and his defensive coordinator and his outside linebackers coach even 404 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: when something like declining a fifth year option is on 405 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: the table. 406 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the decline to the option was the money that 407 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: thirteen million. As far as the salary cap is concerned, 408 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: we like you, just not at that number. So let's 409 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: come to an agreement on an number in which we're 410 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: both equally satisfied that works with us, because it is 411 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: a business and you have to fit things under a 412 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: set salary cap. Now, I did like what JG had 413 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: to say about Collins as far as being a big 414 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: part of what we want to do on defense this 415 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: season and glad that. Glad that this extension got done 416 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: now as opposed to later, because as a head coach 417 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: you want certain players to be around, yet at the 418 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: same time you leave the contract decisions and negotiations to 419 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: the front office. So now here you have a head coach. Okay, 420 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: don't have to worry. Now we know Zaman is going 421 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: to be here this season and two more years. 422 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first 423 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to use the term mid season, but 424 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: like once you're training, camping beyond. This is the first 425 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: contract extension that Monty has done, I believe off the 426 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: top of my head, I think so. 427 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: I believe he did rework with Buddha Baker. Yeah, that 428 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: was no added years or anything like that. This is his, 429 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: this is the and this is someone that is not 430 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: a Manti Austin for a draft pick as well. 431 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it all comes to it all comes together. 432 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: But it is good to see, especially with Monty now 433 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: in his second year as general manager, you're checking off 434 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: a lot of first whether it's with the coaching staff 435 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: or with the general manager front office. This is a 436 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: young group and they're checking off a lot of different 437 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: things that they have not done. But now you're just 438 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 3: have to start thinking about also other players that you 439 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 3: might need to extend contracts towards you, if you so choose, 440 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: whether that's a Will Hernandez or a Yell the Throe hold, 441 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: or whatever you decide with Buddha Baker, because the conversation 442 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: with him a lot has been about his contract. But 443 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: something that all these players have said is that the 444 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: focus is on this year and that's all that matters. 445 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 3: Let the representation do what they have to do and 446 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 3: focus on this year. Zavin's representation obviously got that done, 447 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: and we saw how he was able to focus and 448 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 3: it's all starting to come together. Now he could just 449 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: let his hair down and rush the quarterback. 450 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: And the Cardinals are going to need Savin Collins among 451 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: others to rush the quarterback in lights of the news 452 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: that Bjo Jilari has done for the season with a 453 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: knee injury. So you hate it for bj but you 454 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: are happy for Zavan and the fact that his future 455 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: is no longer in doubt and he doesn't have to 456 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: worry about those questions, whether that's mid season or at 457 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: the end of this season, about hey, do you want 458 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: to be back. Do you want to be here in Arizona. 459 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: That's all behind us. 460 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: Now. Look, that's the best part about this type of 461 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: stuff is you get to now focus on what they 462 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: could bring to the table and how they can maximize 463 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 3: their contract. What are they going to do now that 464 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 3: now that that part of the conversation of being a 465 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: professional has now been put to rest, and David said 466 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 3: he wanted to be here. It's now happening. 467 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of Zavan, a very popular player. 468 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: Post Red and White practice twenty six thousand plus in 469 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: attendance at State Farm Stadium, a record crowd, but many 470 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: of those fans Zach congratulating Zavan because of the contract extension. 471 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: When he was signing autographs, that was always the one 472 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: thing that everyone kept shouting his way. Not only the fans, 473 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: but his own teammates were talking to him in the 474 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: locker room, giving their congratulations to their teammate, kind of 475 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: going and doubling down on that chemistry and that camaraderie 476 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 3: amongst the locker room. But yeah, Craig, it was loud 477 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: twenty six thousand fans. Michael Wilson spoke after the practice 478 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 3: and he said it felt like a game like atmosphere. 479 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 3: That's how loud they were. 480 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: The flags that fans had in attendance. It just had 481 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: a different vibe for red and white practice. And look 482 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: a couple of big plays. Darren Hall in interception off 483 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: a tip drill, Michael Wilson had a couple of catches. 484 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: Greg doorge continues to catch anything that's thrown his direction. 485 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: So very clear that georch is having a spectacular Cards 486 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: camp and that just continued on Saturday. 487 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: That chemistry between him and k One, they both have 488 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: talked about it and to see it go into play. 489 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: We saw glimpses of it, and then towards the latter 490 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: half of the season we saw it come into play, 491 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: especially in critical moments like the game against Philadelphia, that 492 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: big thirty yardist, the thirty yard touchdown against the Chicago Bears. 493 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: That chemistry. But to see it how much they're clicking 494 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: during training camp. Obviously last year, Kyler wasn't a part 495 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 3: of training camp, but Greg George wasn't a part of 496 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: the first team of offense either last season. Now they're 497 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 3: both in the thick of things and it's working out 498 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: for both of them. 499 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: Some quick injury updates as far as without yell defrole 500 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: on the field, we continue to see Evan Brown at center, 501 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: Elijah Wilkinson getting some run at left guard. That certainly 502 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: has become quite the competition now without Brown at left guard, 503 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: and you're kind of seeing more of a rotation between Wilkinson, 504 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: John Gaines Isaiah Adams has even gotten in the mix. 505 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: Obviously it's Brown's job to lose, but without your man 506 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: in the middle, someone's got to step up. 507 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, for right now, this is if you are a 508 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: John gains where in Isaiah Adams you never wish upon injury, 509 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 3: but you're getting all the chances right now to showcase 510 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: what you could bring to that first team offense. I 511 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: mean Isaiah Adams. We talked to him on Friday after 512 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 3: practice and he said, how going from Illinois when he 513 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: was the guy, he was the guy along the trenches 514 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: and now being back in a competition battle, it adds 515 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: a different element to how you approached the game. So 516 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: their rotation, that's one of the position battles we've talked 517 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: about time in and time again. That rotation, though, is 518 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 3: looking it's looking pretty good. You have quality depth pieces 519 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 3: and that's that's encouraging. 520 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: Defensively, did not see Max Melton on the field, so 521 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: it was Sean Murphy bunting on one side, Starling Thomas 522 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: on the other, as well as Garrett Williams, who was 523 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: just depending if you were going with two or three 524 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: corners or five dbs because once again Nick Rellis late 525 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: in practice dialed up that one down lineman LJ. Collier, 526 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: and then you had Xavin Collins. Xavier Thomas was getting 527 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: some run with the first team as an outside linebacker 528 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: alongside Dennis Gardock. So you had three outside linebackers in 529 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: addition to five Nichols ow Po out there as well 530 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: with Mac Wilson Senior watching from the sideline that particular series. 531 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Owen Papo has been receiving also a lot 532 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 3: of praise from Johnathan Gannon just in terms of his preparation, 533 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 3: how he coroaches the game. That's another player that you're 534 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: hoping for that second year jump. Obviously, when you talk 535 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: about the linebacker tandem, it's gonna be a mac Wilson 536 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: and Kaizier White. But we saw multiple instances last season, 537 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: whether it was due to injury or substitutions or whatnot, 538 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 3: Owen Papa and Chris Barnes both got some reps there, 539 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 3: and especially even at that green dot position. Chris Barnes 540 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: ended the season as your green dot. So everybody's been 541 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: getting their their opportunities on the cornerback spot. Though Sean 542 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: Murphy Bunning had a really solid red and white practice, 543 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: had got his hand on a couple of different balls. 544 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,239 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray overthrew a pass and it would have been 545 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: a really nice one handed interception Odell Beckham style, but 546 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: SMB deflected that one, so he's looking really solid. 547 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: To bird Gang, you have two more opportunities here at 548 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: cards Camp. Two more open practices Tuesday and Wednesday. Azcardinals 549 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: dot Com Forward slash Camp ticks. That is, Accardinals dot 550 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: Com Forward slash Camp ticks t i X first preseason 551 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: game a week from Saturday, August tenth against the New 552 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. And on that note, we will put a 553 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: lit on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai, 554 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks 555 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Amhundro our associhip producer Coddy 556 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: Fincher for Zach Gershman. I'm Craig Real Lou, we'll talk 557 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals cover two.