Speaker 1: This episode of Busting with the Boys. The Boys is
Speaker 1: presented by Barstool Sports.
Speaker 2: Get up there, Max, there's a bust with the boys. Second,
Speaker 2: we got Maggie. What kind of dog is that? Yellow labrador?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we think she's a lab part greyhound?
Speaker 2: Man, no way, Yeah, what part of the what part
Speaker 2: of that? Says greyhound?
Speaker 3: Do you skinny face?
Speaker 2: Get that skinny face?
Speaker 3: Skinny faces? He said?
Speaker 4: Three years old?
Speaker 3: Three years old.
Speaker 2: I was like, it goes, what the fuck about that
Speaker 2: dog being there? I was probably quiz as he goes,
Speaker 2: that's an old goal right there.
Speaker 5: Chicken man, shed what we think she is? We adopted
Speaker 5: her about she had actually a first day of training camp.
Speaker 5: I went to run the conditioning test. My wife, she
Speaker 5: drove out to cook Fille to adopt, to adopt this one.
Speaker 2: She told she told you, No, she didn't.
Speaker 5: She didn't tell me. She just surprised me. Like I
Speaker 5: get back in the locker room. There's a photo of
Speaker 5: Selphie of her with the back seat like, hey, make
Speaker 5: sure this little deal by your mouth got it. There's
Speaker 5: a photo of her like Sophie in the back seat like, hey,
Speaker 5: we got a dog now, and you're you're all right?
Speaker 5: We got a dog.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 4: You're in training camp.
Speaker 3: Training camp. That's the last thing I'm I'm I'm worried
Speaker 3: about cook That's.
Speaker 2: Where which phone is from? Right?
Speaker 4: We've had a couple of cookvillions on here?
Speaker 2: Who else? Uh, yep, well this is when they watch it.
Speaker 4: Jim Jim On.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim hillcl.
Speaker 1: Jim Hensel mental guy, Oh wasn't here. Yeah, you weren't
Speaker 1: at that one, sorry, Jim Me and Chandler.
Speaker 2: I've never been to Cookville, but which was showing us
Speaker 2: like pictures. He's got like this huge ranch or this
Speaker 2: big farm and it's got like a you got this
Speaker 2: giant slipping slide there used on fourth of July they
Speaker 2: slide down it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's kind of rad, dude.
Speaker 5: They're they're good people out there. They wrote like an
Speaker 5: interviewed Megan and they sent us an article newspaper article
Speaker 5: with her and they like Matt Slayer adopts dog from
Speaker 5: Cookville and like send it to us and they sayd
Speaker 5: like a big like Titans caller thing. It's that's cool.
Speaker 2: Did you fall in love right away? Where you're like
Speaker 2: this is this dog?
Speaker 5: I mean like she well she was really close with
Speaker 5: my wife, and and so she left today. So now
Speaker 5: she's us two right now. And uh, but at first
Speaker 5: she didn't even really like me touching her.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, she was really scarish me.
Speaker 2: She like, I have a little deal the wife around.
Speaker 3: We don't. We don't know, male, Yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 4: It's a thing.
Speaker 2: The exact thing you are. You're you're like a classically
Speaker 2: eighties offensive lineman. Dude, you got that fucking vibe about you.
Speaker 2: Anytime we're in the meal room. You got like two
Speaker 2: glasses of milk with you, two sandwiches, milk.
Speaker 4: Voice.
Speaker 2: He's got that fucking you got that, you got that deal.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: You look, I'm telling you what. So dogs from Cookfield,
Speaker 2: Le's sweet. That's the second This is the second dog
Speaker 2: we had the podcast.
Speaker 3: It's sick.
Speaker 2: But Maggie, you're much more well behaved than the last
Speaker 2: dog that was on our podcast. We'll be honest. Still, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Hager had to go, dude, he was too high energy,
Speaker 2: too high energy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We use this company that's gonna be called Global and
Speaker 2: they're like solid place, solid place.
Speaker 3: I remember you tell me about that.
Speaker 2: They specialize in like dogs that they do. They protection dogs,
Speaker 2: so like they're these dogs are so like customizable. It's
Speaker 2: so weird to say that about another being.
Speaker 3: But train the boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so cozy, like yeah, you can them do
Speaker 2: anything like bark once, bark twice when you hear a knock,
Speaker 2: Like you can make them sit stay like you can
Speaker 2: tea Like some dogs no different languages.
Speaker 1: They get between your legs, laid down and lay down,
Speaker 1: step backwards.
Speaker 4: They're like defending with you.
Speaker 2: Crazy awf leash. And this dog was great, like like
Speaker 2: Haggard was awesome. His name is Diablo. His original name
Speaker 2: was Diablo, and then we renamed him Haggard, which Lily
Speaker 2: took a day and a half. Like the dog was
Speaker 2: like Joe. But the dog he was like so high
Speaker 2: energy and when it's so little my daughter, so he
Speaker 2: would get excited whenever I got home. Or like tailing,
Speaker 2: he got super touch of tailing and he would just
Speaker 2: bump and like knock over win all the time, and
Speaker 2: she's falling over the place. He has high energy. I'm
Speaker 2: not around. Tailing's pregnant against We had a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of off going on. We're like, man, I don't know
Speaker 2: if this is it break, Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is it.
Speaker 3: Well, thankfully a dog like back and like find another home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I dude, you feel like such a terrible
Speaker 2: person when you're like, man, I gotta get this dog up.
Speaker 2: You gotta give this animal up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was cool.
Speaker 4: He was rad was so much.
Speaker 3: I remember you in that process, like, dude, check these
Speaker 3: dogs out.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to love. It's hard for me
Speaker 2: to love these animals.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I was we went, we you with us when we
Speaker 2: went to Arizona last yearn So we went to Arizona.
Speaker 2: We played Arizona and then we played forty nine Ers.
Speaker 2: Obviously wasn't good. Gay we lost both those games. That
Speaker 2: was like three years ago because you weren't there either,
Speaker 2: high So this was three years ago, two years ago,
Speaker 2: three years ago whatever before both y'all and I got
Speaker 2: a goldfish before and I named him Lunchbox. I fucking
Speaker 2: loved this goldfish.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: He was unbelievable. And tailor, my wife like buys a
Speaker 2: filter for this for this fish, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if beta fish need filters, you don't. They
Speaker 2: just put them in a bowl and they're solid. They
Speaker 2: have lived their lives. They're happy to see you. You
Speaker 2: yell at them every day to clean their room and
Speaker 2: they never do. It's like a fun little back and forth.
Speaker 1: You get with them and you see it everything, and
Speaker 1: they're happy to see you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, I'll tell you what this girlfish love I
Speaker 6: would come home. You say it was a beta too,
Speaker 6: like ash, Well, I mean I don't discriminate on the
Speaker 6: color of my face.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm saying, like those dark colored like they kill.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well know, you put like two men in. They puffed
Speaker 2: their cheeks out like beat the ships. It's like little
Speaker 2: boxing cheeks. They beat the hell out of them. But
Speaker 2: like I had like a he was like a like
Speaker 2: a transparent blue. He was very beautiful, right, he was
Speaker 2: a beautiful young boy. Yeah, name was lunch Box. And
Speaker 2: I left Arizona and so I said to tailor and
Speaker 2: I said, do not like do you want with our child, doude?
Speaker 2: You want with your dog? And do you want for yourself?
Speaker 2: But nothing happens to this fish, And I left. I
Speaker 2: went to Arizona and we lost that game. I had
Speaker 2: like a back thing. I ended up actually missing part
Speaker 2: of that game. And then a couple of days later,
Speaker 2: we're practicing at a su I finished practice. Thank god,
Speaker 2: I would not have been able to practice. Heard this
Speaker 2: news before. And she calls me and she's like hey,
Speaker 2: And I was like, what I knew right away? He
Speaker 2: sends it in the turt tone. I knew right away.
Speaker 2: She goes, she goes, hey, I go what. She goes,
Speaker 2: We need to talk about lunchbox. I was like, there's
Speaker 2: nothing to talk about. He's fine. She was lunchbox got
Speaker 2: sucked into the Taylor Barr that Taylor bought, and he
Speaker 2: dot a horrible death. I hung up the phone. Immediately
Speaker 2: hung up the phone, told the boys didn't care. Boys
Speaker 2: did not care. You think our Titans team is tight,
Speaker 2: We're not because those boys weren't weren't with me when
Speaker 2: I lost the most special thing in my entire life,
Speaker 2: that fish. Do you know what I'm saying? That was
Speaker 2: back when you didn't have as many of the friends.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a lot of friends back then. I
Speaker 2: guess it's heartbreak, Hotel. I don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: friends until you were here. And you were here. Now
Speaker 2: I got friends. Got to that Poe up. So anyway,
Speaker 2: the lunchboxes, all his stuff is still in the It's
Speaker 2: a good little he was a song. Guess you handled
Speaker 2: himself very well.
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Speaker 2: Do you really?
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Speaker 1: Taylor's boys are in town. It is painfully hot outside,
Speaker 1: so fucking hot, it's like millige a line. And Taylor's
Speaker 1: got this dog outside Haggard, God, bless his soul, his heart,
Speaker 1: he's alive, and he would just tell him the cushie
Speaker 1: all the time, like he never like, we're hitting a
Speaker 1: ball around, So he'd be laying there and see the ball,
Speaker 1: and eventually he'd want to, like get up because it's
Speaker 1: hot as ship outside and Taylor right when he get out, No, no, cuche,
Speaker 1: cuche get over here, Cuchet, stop the game. Well, we'd
Speaker 1: have to stop the game and just watch Taylor try
Speaker 1: and discipline this dog. Cuchet, good boy, good boy, big
Speaker 1: all right, boys, we played two more points. You get
Speaker 1: hagar hey, cuche, cuche. Yeah, doesn't pay in the ask
Speaker 1: like man just wanted to play.
Speaker 3: You wanted to play.
Speaker 1: I let him go in the air condition condition. It's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: we gotta him outside, cuchet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Taylor was doing something. I forget what she was doing,
Speaker 2: but I don't want her because Hacker was a handful.
Speaker 2: Bro's trying to help the crew.
Speaker 1: We were setting up for your birthday party, right because
Speaker 1: I brought the cake. Had to be something because I
Speaker 1: went and ran in there and got that cake.
Speaker 2: It was like two three days before camp started. So yeah,
Speaker 2: for those of your one of my birthdays, July twenty second,
Speaker 2: that's an any one twenty years old, super fucking young.
Speaker 2: Was this about? Is this your favorite dog you've ever
Speaker 2: had in your entire life?
Speaker 4: No, the answer is no, good, She's pretty good. How
Speaker 4: many dogs have you had?
Speaker 3: I've had two, had too two others are too total.
Speaker 5: This is a third. But this is this is me
Speaker 5: and my wife's dogs. So this is like our favorite,
Speaker 5: like our.
Speaker 2: Dogs loves you.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of jealous. I wish I just had
Speaker 2: a dog with made a chill right now. I want
Speaker 2: to get a chihuaba.
Speaker 3: Got her man, she was just all like he.
Speaker 4: Keep that mouth close that mic when we.
Speaker 5: Got him, man, we got her man, she was all
Speaker 5: like backbones and rib bone sticking out, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 5: would Bailey come out to me and she's she's gotten
Speaker 5: really really comfortable with us, and we're stuck.
Speaker 3: We're stuck to have her man. I'm glad my wife
Speaker 3: surprised me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 5: And it was good for her in training camp because
Speaker 5: training camp is hard for hard for the for the girls.
Speaker 5: You know, like you go in the off season with
Speaker 5: them and then boom, instantly you're back in football mode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's tough to just like.
Speaker 2: It's like cold turkey too, it's like quitting smoking right away. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well I guess in January six months.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, see brutal.
Speaker 5: That was cool for her to be around the season,
Speaker 5: how junior wife, dude, we.
Speaker 2: Met in middle school, no way, yeah, the whole time.
Speaker 3: No, No, we never dated until until after college.
Speaker 4: Play cat Mouth.
Speaker 2: She had to make sure you made it first.
Speaker 5: We were always like dating each other's friends, you know,
Speaker 5: just like never like really worked worked out, but it
Speaker 5: was there was always something cool there and then we
Speaker 5: got reconnected after college when I was when I was
Speaker 5: kind of going through my stuff and.
Speaker 4: Uh, which I can't wait to dive into.
Speaker 5: And it and it just it just worked. Man, It
Speaker 5: was just it was it was meant to be. You know,
Speaker 5: everything happens for a reason. I believe that. And so yeah,
Speaker 5: we're married. We got married April fifth, last year, coming
Speaker 5: up on one year really and uh yeah, I'm pretty
Speaker 5: stoked on.
Speaker 2: Never got that fucking that's crazy and never got that
Speaker 2: that's wild. Whatever. We had a great time in Vegas.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it we did.
Speaker 5: That was an epic trip, dude. That was like I
Speaker 5: was back like in college with the boys, like.
Speaker 3: Day drinking every day, they drinking King's Cup, playing the games.
Speaker 2: Dude, the Kings the best part of the whole deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, except now we like have a little money to
Speaker 5: gamble and throw on the dice. Before you had none
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 2: Quiz and I were like our own two hype men.
Speaker 2: Really like, oh dude, when Dennis would roll the dice,
Speaker 2: we put in like the don't pass line, so as
Speaker 2: we're betting against Dennis, he literally every time Dennis rolled
Speaker 2: to get seven first first and you win and then
Speaker 2: he hit a number and then he's like, nope, we're
Speaker 2: going to the don't pass line. And two rolls later
Speaker 2: and again, yeah, he's brutally bad.
Speaker 5: He had a rough weekend rolling. And he would be
Speaker 5: the first to tell you that too. I was that
Speaker 5: was bad. He just ended up being just skipped me because.
Speaker 2: Here we actually talking in passing.
Speaker 4: How much did you guys have in the fine system
Speaker 4: to go?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Is that what you guys did?
Speaker 4: Six thousand?
Speaker 2: But like usually guys using the clubs and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I think you went to the club the first night.
Speaker 2: I went to the first night, and then I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't even go to the club once. Then we
Speaker 2: didn't go. We went saw Ron White.
Speaker 4: Yo, he's abuted, isn't he?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he. Here's the deal. We were under the weather.
Speaker 2: I guess over the weather. I don't know what we were.
Speaker 2: I guess banged up at that point. Banged up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we were banged up, dude. And so we get there,
Speaker 2: we're fired up. We're like, we get these giant Penu Colada.
Speaker 2: We buy. He has a he has a tequila company number.
Speaker 2: Wan no free shoutouts for Ron White, but number Juan Tequila,
Speaker 2: and we get these giant pina coladas. I gotta I
Speaker 2: got a penny. Call you got a Mark? I did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you get a mark. Dennis got a mark. Jack got
Speaker 2: a pina. And we're sitting there and we're all kind
Speaker 2: of excited and then kind of like halfway through, like we're,
Speaker 2: you know, head picking our way through South America. Dude
Speaker 2: honestly falling asleep as he's going.
Speaker 1: He's in the middle of his once.
Speaker 2: And I thought he's funny. He is funny. Lot of jokes,
Speaker 2: a lot of pussy jokes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, lot of weird, a lot of weird like
Speaker 1: sexual jokes, a.
Speaker 5: Weird sexual jokes. Yeah, I'm like, all right, R When
Speaker 5: he was about dude, yeah tequila.
Speaker 2: Now, when he was talking about like how he eats pussy,
Speaker 2: but he's like, uh, his buddies won't even eat their
Speaker 2: wives out unless they shower first. And he's like, I
Speaker 2: do it right after a workout. Hees, I like it
Speaker 2: a little salty. He's good pausing too. Yeah, drink, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I like a little salty. Keeping the salt
Speaker 2: sugar by the night stand.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the summertime, remember in the night and during
Speaker 2: the summer time there just in case when she's not
Speaker 2: looking a little lime, a little salt, Ye stay in
Speaker 2: munchtown did all. His last bit was funny too.
Speaker 4: What did you guys have to go through? What would
Speaker 4: happen for you guys have to pay a fine? Like?
Speaker 1: What was your guys' rules for paying fines?
Speaker 4: Getting mentioned?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Being mentioned? The team meetings is big.
Speaker 5: Anything that kind of like separates you from the group
Speaker 5: or like effects the group, like farting and meetings.
Speaker 3: That's that's twenty bones.
Speaker 4: What was the highest fine penalty?
Speaker 3: Captain?
Speaker 2: Probably captain's five grades five.
Speaker 4: Also if you get captain of the team, if you're considered.
Speaker 3: For the week, Yeah, oh for the week.
Speaker 2: So do you have to pay you No, it's like
Speaker 2: it's two fifty a game, and I think it totals
Speaker 2: up to around whatever six thousand dollars, So whatever that is,
Speaker 2: probably it's not even close. You mean, it's not even
Speaker 2: fucking close.
Speaker 5: We were like super regimented in it. It's kind of
Speaker 5: like a lump sum every quarter, so we so we
Speaker 5: stay up on.
Speaker 2: It's I think we're at the mercy of bed. Really,
Speaker 2: we really are at the mercy. Then keeps track of everything
Speaker 2: based that day.
Speaker 5: He like flips open a piece of paper like he's
Speaker 5: been tracking it down, tacking twelve hundred, two hundred five hundred,
Speaker 5: and we're like, all right, I guess that's what we are. Man,
Speaker 5: sounds sounds legit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, He'll just hit people with the random numbers
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: Any might not go to the Old Line Vegas trip.
Speaker 3: We had a couple a couple of dropouts. Unfortunately it
Speaker 3: was well well Tany Danny and Derek Derek a the
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so they weren't coming. Uh KP KP couldn't go.
Speaker 2: KP bailed.
Speaker 3: Other than that, we had a solid group. Was we
Speaker 3: were light. We had eight eight and DM solid crew.
Speaker 2: Man do we had a solid crew. We we had
Speaker 2: a solid Old Line crew. Because like it's kind of
Speaker 2: like an unspoken thing like when you leave a team,
Speaker 2: you get out of the group chat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like an unspoken rule.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of just like you play your time
Speaker 2: and the longest you should have wait as proably like
Speaker 2: the beginning of the new season, boy appreciate everything, thanks
Speaker 2: for everything show, and so left the group. He was
Speaker 2: like hyping us up going into the playoffs. You know
Speaker 2: you boys got this like all that ship, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't just cute like Stinny Aaron Stinney who's at Tampa now,
Speaker 2: Corey Levin who was at Denver and then went Chicago
Speaker 2: and then cross.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh he just had a kid, Yeah, a little boy.
Speaker 2: Do you congrats? He said, cold balls and no no
Speaker 2: uh no doggy style either, which apparently is like, apparently
Speaker 2: that's the way to have a boy is you got
Speaker 2: to keep your balls warm and you gotta go dogging style.
Speaker 2: But he defied all odds. Fuck man, good for him,
Speaker 2: good for him, good for the boy. It's all good
Speaker 2: talents preaduer right now, I've said that four times already
Speaker 2: in this podcast. But like I want a boy, thank you, Whaling,
Speaker 2: Whaling danger l one. Yeah, if I have a boy,
Speaker 2: if it's a boy, if it's a girl, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a Willow. As of right now, I could change
Speaker 2: to any point. Oh girls, Willow, Yeah girls, Willow girl?
Speaker 2: You like Willow? Will Ship?
Speaker 4: What do you mean? Oh ship? Like, how did you together?
Speaker 2: I gotta rebrainstorm that name. Oh fuck, but yeah ship.
Speaker 2: I'm stoked. I'm fired up. It's gonna be cool gig
Speaker 2: having too though, Man, it's a lot of work. You
Speaker 2: got it, no question, no question, no quesh, baby, I
Speaker 2: think I mean my daughter now, she's a psycho, dude.
Speaker 2: She's awesome though. She's got my personality one hundred miles
Speaker 2: an hour until she goes to bed and then she
Speaker 2: falls asleep faster than anybody.
Speaker 4: The bean, the Bean's rat. The bean is rat.
Speaker 2: You know, Will babysit the bean. We're kind of getting baby.
Speaker 1: Diving in, but uh yeah, we Charle and I we
Speaker 1: baby sat the Bean for the first time.
Speaker 4: Taylor, God bless them. They allowed us to watch.
Speaker 1: Last Week Week which night, and they like joked, they said, uh,
Speaker 1: what if we dropped Win off at Will's house?
Speaker 4: And I was like do it? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: crush it. And I was trying to explain to them,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: I took out like my s a full elevator pitch
Speaker 1: to him, gotcha, told him how it'd be great, this
Speaker 1: and that, and then Taylor's like, is Charli.
Speaker 4: Going to be home?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, more importantly, and then.
Speaker 1: That's when we left. I was like, I'm sure she is.
Speaker 1: I had to get out my phone and text.
Speaker 4: I was like, see she's home.
Speaker 1: So She's like all, okay, we might trust you now.
Speaker 2: We like got everything together real quick and boogie out
Speaker 2: of there.
Speaker 1: No, no, we played fetch dude, we did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sent us a video we'll have this ball
Speaker 2: and he throw it across the hallway and when would
Speaker 2: chase after it come back with it in her mouth?
Speaker 2: Kids are awesome.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they had a nice little date night. Get
Speaker 1: a little date night. Boy came in clutch for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a solid gig. She was not still
Speaker 2: to go to Will's house on the way there. On
Speaker 2: the way back though, she was like Will's house, Will's house.
Speaker 1: It's like no moment, dads, some blues clues. She's like
Speaker 1: the house too, dude, She's like gir old daddy. I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, puffs, give me the puffs back.
Speaker 2: Everything. She's tall, she's like tall like some four year
Speaker 2: olds be a little freak lover.
Speaker 3: That's awesome, man.
Speaker 2: I kind of like how she's different. She's awesome. She
Speaker 2: had this such curly hair too.
Speaker 3: You're going to be in for it with two I know.
Speaker 2: I'm just honestly like, you have you have the energy
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 3: You have the energy for like a bunch of.
Speaker 2: Kids, Like part of part of me wants like ten kids,
Speaker 2: and the other part of me is like, damn, like
Speaker 2: too solid. I could go either way, honestly, ten.
Speaker 4: And two those are the two that's pretty extreme. You know,
Speaker 4: like ten kids, but hey, too solid, too solid? Like
Speaker 4: in the middle, do you think.
Speaker 2: Like, dude, when kids are young, they're handfuls, but like
Speaker 2: you got to think like when they're fifteen, eighteen, twenty, whatever,
Speaker 2: they're all coming home for Christmas having a blast.
Speaker 3: It's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 5: My mom's one of eight. Yeah, that's one of three,
Speaker 5: and everybody who lives in San Diego. So like growing
Speaker 5: up huge family, no matter what happened, you know, first
Speaker 5: of the Communion Championship, like the stands were packed.
Speaker 3: All of our family was there.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: It was really cool growing up in like huge family
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: I got that would be really cool. I literally had
Speaker 2: like my immediate family, and then that was kind of it.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, Like I had like my grandparents when we
Speaker 2: really talked to them, had some weird cousins up in California.
Speaker 2: Shout outs to the weird cousins. Don't for shoutouts, but
Speaker 2: I don't really talk to them. Like I stopped like
Speaker 2: telling them when I was like eleven, I don't know anybody.
Speaker 2: I know anybody in my immediate family really, so I
Speaker 2: think it'd be cool because Taln's got a big family,
Speaker 2: so that'd be cool to have everybody around Christmas, Holidays,
Speaker 2: all that stuff.
Speaker 3: It was always it was always a party, like no
Speaker 3: matter what happened, you know what I mean, it was like.
Speaker 5: Good everybody to everybody. Everybody, everybody's cousins, competitives, uncles, Me and.
Speaker 3: My brothers were competitive. Everybody else was just kind of
Speaker 3: kind of stuck to be around California.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do they all want to know?
Speaker 3: But all o, we are San Diego, Miss Mission Beach, Claremont.
Speaker 3: Very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. And would you would you went to
Speaker 2: San Jose State Santa the State Spartans Jesus there?
Speaker 4: Did you go on scholarship?
Speaker 3: I walked on Yeah when I got there, No way. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So you walked down your field walk.
Speaker 5: Donalds like a two hundred and thirty pounds walk on
Speaker 5: like tight end. Yeah, and tell me one days like
Speaker 5: you're gonna be a tackle for us? You're way too slow, buddy,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, no shit, all right, man?
Speaker 1: So I just were you psyched to be an offensive
Speaker 1: player though not not in alignment, but I'm saying we
Speaker 1: did that kind of shadowy your dreams, Like damn, I
Speaker 1: kind of want to play tight end and catch the football.
Speaker 2: Uh you snipped that one of the areas. I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't, Yeah, I know, right, I should have should
Speaker 5: have stuck with it.
Speaker 3: No, I just I didn't give a ship. Man.
Speaker 5: I wanted to play like no matter what. Like coaches like, hey,
Speaker 5: wants you to be a tackle, I'm like, let's charge it.
Speaker 2: Just whatever you can do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever I do. I mean I was a walking
Speaker 3: on what am my?
Speaker 2: What are gonna say? No? And then coach is.
Speaker 5: Talking to me, knows my name, wants me to do
Speaker 5: something like I'm in you know, let's do it, and
Speaker 5: I charged it.
Speaker 2: So you got drafted the Houston Texans after that. So
Speaker 2: you you graduated, you went high school in two and eight, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I graduated, went year before. Yeah, and then you graduated yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: graduate thirteen, got drafted by the Texans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what round one? Seventy six? Overall one?
Speaker 2: Seven round?
Speaker 4: Is that six round?
Speaker 3: It's better than you?
Speaker 4: It is better.
Speaker 2: It's what's seventy six? Like you're like, like, what does
Speaker 2: that even mean?
Speaker 3: I don't know why I remember that. I remember that number.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you always remember the number you were drafted
Speaker 2: or not drafted?
Speaker 3: Was there?
Speaker 1: What? When did you When did you realize you had
Speaker 1: a shout to play in the NFL if you were
Speaker 1: two thirty pounds the starter?
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I started, like a couple of years later. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I started off playing good. Yeah, put on like seventy pounds.
Speaker 5: Just crush the weight so.
Speaker 4: You're pounds as a senior, just destroy them.
Speaker 5: Yeah basically, Yeah, a three year starter got drafted Texans
Speaker 5: and I got down there and they're like, all right, man,
Speaker 5: you're you're pretty solid, you're pretty good, and they were
Speaker 5: stoked on me.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I remember made the team, did all that.
Speaker 5: Going into Chargers week, my whole family was there. Everybody
Speaker 5: had bought all the tickets before the practice, Like Kulbe
Speaker 5: had calls me in, hey, man, get ready to go,
Speaker 5: you know, ten twelve snaps whatever and what we char week?
Speaker 2: One week one, okay, because they at the Houston. They
Speaker 2: would cycle in and out dudes.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, well I was young, you know, Wade Smith
Speaker 5: was was coming off of like a like an injury, like.
Speaker 3: You're ready to go Waite.
Speaker 4: Smith was tacking.
Speaker 3: He was a guard. He was a guard in front
Speaker 3: of me. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I came down. They moved a guard. I was playing good.
Speaker 5: I was with Ben. We were rotating a little bit
Speaker 5: in the preseason.
Speaker 3: And uh, I'm like.
Speaker 5: Oh, this is this is for real, Like it's about
Speaker 5: to go down. Telling my family like, hey, get your tickets,
Speaker 5: obody buy their tickets playing Boom will go out to practice.
Speaker 5: My fucking stepped on break my foot, Boom. I are
Speaker 5: for the rest of the year, Like oh.
Speaker 4: Well, whatever.
Speaker 2: Was that's this? That's the little out outside. Those are
Speaker 2: super easy to break, aren't they easy to break?
Speaker 3: Kind of easy to fix, Like it wasn't like a crazy.
Speaker 1: Crazy yeah nine weeks right, yeah, like I could have
Speaker 1: could have come back, but they're like, dude, you're a
Speaker 1: rookie Boom.
Speaker 3: I are like, damn, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's still cool. If I Houston to do that though,
Speaker 2: because usually like get back, exchange you can whatever, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: it's kind of how the NFL is like if you're
Speaker 2: not you're not playing, you're not worth it to us. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, hey, take the season, dude. You
Speaker 2: gotta do which is I'm sure godsend like like the
Speaker 2: long term is good for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would always like to come back,
Speaker 3: yeah and play.
Speaker 1: It hurts, Yeah, I didn't mind. It was literally in
Speaker 1: a jog through and I broke on the stick around.
Speaker 1: Literally I thought someone took a shotgun to my foot.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: I just started limping around, yeah, because I just I
Speaker 1: didn't do it. I just did it kind of like mechanically.
Speaker 1: Nobody stepped on me or anything, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? And I tried like taping it up
Speaker 1: and going back, and obviously you just started limping like
Speaker 1: you're like something's wrong. And this is the day two
Speaker 1: days before we play on Saturday. And then so I'm
Speaker 1: out for like nine weeks. And that's when Levonte David started.
Speaker 1: He was brand new, hes a Juco guy. That's when
Speaker 1: he started his first game. He had like thirteen tackles
Speaker 1: in the first.
Speaker 4: Game and I was kind of like, oh shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when I came back, it's kind of like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're happy to have you back, but you know he's
Speaker 1: not there anymore. The job's gone. Davis took your job.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jesus.
Speaker 4: We ran like a one we ran we played dying
Speaker 4: most of the time.
Speaker 1: We ran one linebacker, so we would actually have a
Speaker 1: dB come in because the spread stuff. Yeah twelve, So
Speaker 1: Levante is our lone backer, dude, And that's when the
Speaker 1: legend of Levonte fucking and so everybody's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: dude is legit.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, next year, that's when you guys saw him.
Speaker 2: Huge, had like twenty seven tackles. Twenty seven tackles in
Speaker 2: the Breast Commission game. Yeah, but who you gotta do, man.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. It blew my foot and it just
Speaker 1: like you just.
Speaker 2: Break hit your head.
Speaker 4: Okay, And that's week one that this.
Speaker 5: Has one dude, dude, My family had already bought tickets.
Speaker 5: They were all like this tailgate was set up, and like, man,
Speaker 5: just did.
Speaker 1: You feel making the team when you first started training camp.
Speaker 3: I had a good feeling, you know, I just kind
Speaker 3: of kind.
Speaker 4: Of moved you up in the charts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: You can kind of tell when things are going good
Speaker 5: and yeah, when things are kind of going bad, I
Speaker 5: felt like I was getting more reps. I was I
Speaker 5: was playing well and should happens, you know, it's a bummer.
Speaker 5: So then boom Brookie year done. It was a rough year,
Speaker 5: rough year in Houston. Yea, we were like one of the
Speaker 5: first two and then lost the rest of them. Yeah koop,
Speaker 5: yeah got fired.
Speaker 2: Yeah two years of two and fourteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, been a part of this.
Speaker 4: I've never been a part of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this sucks. And then boom, ye're done. We we
Speaker 5: lost them all gets fired. Bill O'Brien comes in. I'm like,
Speaker 5: what was the year two coming off? I got a
Speaker 5: lot to prove and uh m hm show up to
Speaker 5: the workouts. Everything's going good. There have been some roster guys.
Speaker 5: Bill calls me into his office. He's like, dude, we
Speaker 5: we really like, we really like you, like what you do.
Speaker 5: We saw with you in the preseason. You know, we
Speaker 5: we expect big things.
Speaker 3: Out of you.
Speaker 5: Who's hell Yeah he was Bill's you know, he was
Speaker 5: running the show on offense. I still think he does
Speaker 5: a lot and uh m hmm. Then in the middle
Speaker 5: of like workouts and coming into O t A's do
Speaker 5: I started feeling like something was up year two. You're
Speaker 5: going to year two? Yeah, coming off coming off whatever
Speaker 5: it is for six months later and uh, dude, I
Speaker 5: just started feeling like tired and what the fuck.
Speaker 3: Is going on? Man?
Speaker 5: Like I wasn't hitting my numbers that I'm usually at,
Speaker 5: like in that process like when you start jumping up
Speaker 5: and uh, I'm like, man, something so And then I
Speaker 5: got it, like started getting like a cough, and I
Speaker 5: couldn't figure out what the hell was going on?
Speaker 2: Were you were you super alarmed or was it kind
Speaker 2: of like no?
Speaker 5: I was deal, man, I'm coming off ir Like I
Speaker 5: hadn't played football in a while. I hadn't, you know,
Speaker 5: put in work like this on the field doing all
Speaker 5: this stuff, and I must.
Speaker 3: Just be like fatigued, like getting back into the swing
Speaker 3: of things. This is fine.
Speaker 5: Then I got the cough that wouldn't go away. I
Speaker 5: was like, man, this is this is weird. It's not
Speaker 5: something you know what I mean. I was super I
Speaker 5: never felt like this before, like tired coughing. And then
Speaker 5: I started getting nice sweats and they were like really
Speaker 5: like bad night sweats, like the whole like my sheets
Speaker 5: would be completely soaked, really I'm like, it's something, something's weird.
Speaker 5: But I just kept kind of like grinding through. Went
Speaker 5: on for a few weeks and then finally we're out
Speaker 5: in O.
Speaker 3: T A's.
Speaker 5: And I was like, man, it was right after Ben
Speaker 5: Jones's wedding and came back, so I'm like, man, I hungover,
Speaker 5: what's the deal?
Speaker 3: And I couldn't breathe. Man, I had a terrible cough.
Speaker 4: The cough just slowly got worse, slowly.
Speaker 5: Got worse, like it just felt like it was it
Speaker 5: was fluid or something in there, Like I knew something
Speaker 5: was off, like you were coughing really deep, but nothing
Speaker 5: was coming out. And uh, I'm like this, that's this
Speaker 5: is weird. It's like nothing I ever I ever felt before.
Speaker 5: And I basically passed out out there. The trainers like
Speaker 5: what the fuck is going on with you?
Speaker 2: Like you're out in the field in Houston in the
Speaker 2: heat doing.
Speaker 5: All this stuff, and O t As and the trainers like, yeah,
Speaker 5: something's up.
Speaker 3: We're going to send you to the team.
Speaker 1: Doctor and you and you just passed out in the field.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I didn't pass out, but I felt like I was
Speaker 3: going through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're lightheaded, you're lad seeing the lights and everything.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is this is brutal, Like
Speaker 3: something is up in the trainer. Agree.
Speaker 5: And so I went to see doctor Mountz who's a
Speaker 5: team doctor, and uh, he took a listen to my
Speaker 5: my chest and he's like, you need to go to
Speaker 5: the emergency room right now, get an X ray.
Speaker 3: It's weird.
Speaker 2: He's like, was it like a like an alarming No, He's.
Speaker 5: Like, hey, this is this is ah can be one
Speaker 5: of a few things can be like an infection on
Speaker 5: your lungs. It can be you know, broncatas can be
Speaker 5: like oh, he kind of listed a bunch of things
Speaker 5: he didn't say. He didn't say cancer, but you know,
Speaker 5: I think he knew kind of instantly. He's like you
Speaker 5: need to go down to the emergency room right now
Speaker 5: and get an X ray. And so like that's weird,
Speaker 5: got an X ray, packed my stuff up like I
Speaker 5: was gonna leave, and then another doctor comes in and
Speaker 5: he's like.
Speaker 3: Hey, you you can't leave right now. You need to
Speaker 3: go to the emergency room.
Speaker 5: We have to run a couple of other tests, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, what.
Speaker 3: The hell is going on?
Speaker 2: To get like stressed stressed out?
Speaker 5: And then X ray led to a MRI, which led
Speaker 5: to a PET scan, which led to, uh, what's a
Speaker 5: pet scan? It basically scans your body for cancer, basically cancerselves,
Speaker 5: and then eventually a biopsy and eventually a diagnosis.
Speaker 1: So were you.
Speaker 4: Wondering before you're doing this stuff, You're like, do I
Speaker 4: have cancer?
Speaker 3: No? I didn't cross my mind.
Speaker 1: None of it crossed your mind. All you're just kind
Speaker 1: of listening to them wondering, like what the fuck's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought it was like an infection or something.
Speaker 5: I think of work twenty three years old, Like I'm
Speaker 5: you know, I'm like, I'm proathletic.
Speaker 3: This don't happen, right, what happened to us?
Speaker 5: And uh so that was the last thing that crossed
Speaker 5: my mind until they said what a PET scan was.
Speaker 4: And then I was like shit putting stuff together?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a lot, none, none of it adds up.
Speaker 5: Ship it might it might be, yeah, you know, And
Speaker 5: uh eventually I did get diagnosed with non Hoskins t
Speaker 5: SELL and then phoblastic lymphoma.
Speaker 2: And how long between that scan all those tests was
Speaker 2: his days at a time that that was all that
Speaker 2: one day one day, So you go from having a
Speaker 2: cough you're you're at practice, have a cough tele trainer
Speaker 2: to listen. I'm fucked up. I feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: throw up. I feel like I'm going to pass.
Speaker 3: Out next day.
Speaker 2: And he checks your lungs X ray and he says,
Speaker 2: get out of here, go see the doctor. Doctor says,
Speaker 2: diagnosis in no way.
Speaker 1: Who was your first phone call? Oh to my parents
Speaker 1: right when you got out, right when you left to
Speaker 1: you weren't with your wife at the time.
Speaker 3: Yet, No, I wasn't with my wife. I don't think
Speaker 3: I called anybody for for for a while after.
Speaker 2: Go back, go back real quick. So all these tests
Speaker 2: are done, You're sitting in this waiting room. I'm assuming
Speaker 2: you're laying down on this bed and the doctor comes
Speaker 2: in with like an intern or something like that.
Speaker 3: There was ten doctors.
Speaker 2: Ten doctors, and they walked into the room.
Speaker 3: What do they say to you?
Speaker 2: Like, how do they tell you that everything's different now?
Speaker 5: They're like, hey, we have the results. They were basically
Speaker 5: they were very, very black and white. They weren't like
Speaker 5: easing into it, like we got the results. Our diagnosis
Speaker 5: is you have no hotschings, tea selling basket and foma.
Speaker 5: It's a very rare and a very aggressive form of
Speaker 5: cancer or suggestions that you start chemotherapy treatments immediately.
Speaker 4: What's your reaction?
Speaker 5: And I had kind of like gathered like this was
Speaker 5: a this was a pretty good possibility. So I was
Speaker 5: still I was still like, no fucking way, Like it
Speaker 5: hadn't hit you for like, no fucking way, this is
Speaker 5: happening to me, Like like no way, you know whatever
Speaker 5: a good you know, went out and drank a little
Speaker 5: bit and but didn't like it wasn't do anything crazy,
Speaker 5: you know, and like smoke a pack of cigarettes a
Speaker 5: day or nothing, all the things that you like grow
Speaker 5: like regular professional athletes life, you know me well and
Speaker 5: did all that. I'm like in no way And uh
Speaker 5: they said that. I think I just sat there for
Speaker 5: a while and thought, I'm like, man, I was just
Speaker 5: at practice.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Now what time is it during the day. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is in the afternoon, so it's late late afternoon as
Speaker 2: the dark.
Speaker 3: I got the tests in the morning. No, it was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like in the summer, so damn.
Speaker 4: So then you die You're just trying to digest it on.
Speaker 5: Then all and then and then the then cap comes
Speaker 5: back in person because he got he got the news
Speaker 5: from doctor Monts who was over there, and he came
Speaker 5: back in person whose Cap is a trainer for the Texans. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: so Cap came back and.
Speaker 4: You're like, so sorry, Like, is that when it started
Speaker 4: to hit you?
Speaker 5: And that's when I started to hit me, Like this
Speaker 5: is the head trainer for the Houston Texans telling me.
Speaker 5: You're like, you're sorry that I got diagnosed with cancer?
Speaker 5: Like that's super heavy getting told anybody?
Speaker 4: It was pretty emotional.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, like no I haven't. He's like, all right,
Speaker 5: let's call your parents. And I called my parents and.
Speaker 4: Were you able to tell them? Were you able to
Speaker 4: get it out?
Speaker 3: M It was.
Speaker 5: It was pretty I was pretty emotional. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 5: my parents sat because they were on a vacation in Europe,
Speaker 5: and it was that's a tough convert. That's a tough
Speaker 5: conversation because you know, like you're about to cause them pain,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like you know like you're
Speaker 5: gonna drop something super heavy and emotional on them, and
Speaker 5: you know you almost feel like guilty a little bit,
Speaker 5: like man, this this is gonna this is gonna really
Speaker 5: mess them up, and it's gonna be really hard on
Speaker 5: my family.
Speaker 2: And uh, it's a really selfless mindset to have. Like
Speaker 2: a lot of people would sit there and be like, man,
Speaker 2: poor me, poor this for that, But like when something
Speaker 2: like that happens to people, it's not just one person
Speaker 2: that's affected, it's everybody that they love.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So so I told them, and.
Speaker 5: So you know, I was going across the street to M.
Speaker 5: D Anderson to uh start start chemotherapy man as a
Speaker 5: as a cancer patient over there.
Speaker 3: No ship.
Speaker 4: And this is still during the spring summertime.
Speaker 3: This is the next day, next day. I mean that
Speaker 3: that afternoon after they told me.
Speaker 2: So you okay, so you're I'm just recapping everything because
Speaker 2: this is like like this is less than twenty four hours,
Speaker 2: so you.
Speaker 3: Go, yeah, maybe thirty six hours. It was quick, man,
Speaker 3: it was really quick.
Speaker 2: So you go, you're a practice.
Speaker 3: First, I went to the.
Speaker 5: Sperm banking and did it because they said there's like
Speaker 5: a low chance that it could affect your fertility. So
Speaker 5: I went to the sperm bank in Houston, did that first,
Speaker 5: and then.
Speaker 3: Thanked it, spanked, spanked it real quick. How your head
Speaker 3: your bed? If anything? Want to I want to be for.
Speaker 4: Sure, Hey, can I get a hand. I'm kind of
Speaker 4: in a low spot. I got a situation.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can do that.
Speaker 3: I got a situation right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really hard.
Speaker 3: That was definitely super emotion.
Speaker 1: These magazines you out people magazines.
Speaker 3: Are like, do you want any of this material? And
Speaker 3: they had like a whole like category, like whole.
Speaker 2: Freaking VHS said nothing, I'm good.
Speaker 3: That was That was experience, and then after that it
Speaker 3: was back to MD Anderson. I can start chemo. Yeah
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 5: It was pretty nearly but I got over to MD
Speaker 5: Anderson and I MD Anderson is one of like the
Speaker 5: top the top cancer hospitals in the in the country,
Speaker 5: and uh. I got over there and they're like, this
Speaker 5: is this is really serious. It is a very rare
Speaker 5: and I meet with moncologists and he's like, you know,
Speaker 5: I've done this before, but it's very rare and very aggressive.
Speaker 5: The thing about that is we have a trial chemotherapy
Speaker 5: that has been getting really good results and it's not
Speaker 5: available you know, anywhere else anywhere else available right here
Speaker 5: we we developed and we getting really good results in them.
Speaker 5: Sitting there thinking, I'm like, man, that's that's really weird
Speaker 5: that that's here, you know, what I mean, like around
Speaker 5: the world, Like I'm in Houston, yeah, and they have
Speaker 5: a they have a trick for me, And of course
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, you know what, like I'm all in
Speaker 5: on this, like that's everything I can. Like I'm putting
Speaker 5: all my trust into you guys. You guys, you guys
Speaker 5: are the best. Like we're we're gonna fight this thing
Speaker 5: with everything I got.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh and then the next day.
Speaker 5: I'm still processing it. I'm still you know, everybody had
Speaker 5: come to kind of kind of seeing me. Ben Jones
Speaker 5: came was like that first night it was Ben and
Speaker 5: JJ and h Cody and everybody came in and we
Speaker 5: kind of like had a meal. We didn't like even
Speaker 5: really talk that much. We're just kind of sat there
Speaker 5: and sat and ate and just you know, tried to
Speaker 5: be tried to be guys like just hanging out, you know,
Speaker 5: shooting the ship. But I was like, man, this is
Speaker 5: I don't know what. I don't know what to say,
Speaker 5: like it'll be fine, Like I don't know, like maybe
Speaker 5: I won't be or and they're like, hey, man, we
Speaker 5: feel for you, but we don't know how to you know.
Speaker 3: It was like a real awkward thing. But everybody.
Speaker 5: Everybody had come by and said it. And then a
Speaker 5: couple of days into it, actually the owner of the Texans,
Speaker 5: Bob mcnahir, came in because I didn't know, but he
Speaker 5: was getting cancer treatment there too as well, and.
Speaker 2: No one knew.
Speaker 5: Was this like a secret thing in the beginning, it was,
Speaker 5: it was, it was secret and uh. But then he
Speaker 5: kind of came out publicly and said, hey, I am
Speaker 5: fighting it. Uh. And so he comes into the room
Speaker 5: and he's like, hey, Quiz. Everybody called me Quiz, and
Speaker 5: Houston kind of like yeah here in Nashalley was hey, Quiz,
Speaker 5: I'm really sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I'm really
Speaker 5: sorry to hear about all this. Uh.
Speaker 3: I've been praying on this a lot.
Speaker 5: And the Texans are gonna They're gonna back you through
Speaker 5: this fight, man, as long as it takes whatever it takes.
Speaker 3: You know, we you have our support. You're gonna beat this.
Speaker 5: Thing, and you're gonna come back and you're gonna you're
Speaker 5: gonna play for us in that Texan uniform.
Speaker 3: And I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 5: I was just like, oh my god, Like this guy
Speaker 5: knows my name, like his only team, Like, yeah, I
Speaker 5: was a six round draft pick on ir the year before,
Speaker 5: Like and now he's saying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't hardly believe it.
Speaker 5: And so, you know, make God rest the soul he
Speaker 5: passed away last last season obviously, but you know that
Speaker 5: that was one of the one of the beautiful moments,
Speaker 5: like me coming back and playing for the Texans in
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen. He got to see those those two games
Speaker 5: and very cool. Yeah, he came up to me and
Speaker 5: he's like, lots of prayers answer today, Man, this is
Speaker 5: what we were going for. That was a special moment
Speaker 5: to be able to share that, share that with him
Speaker 5: and kind of like have those things come true, you know, prayer, prayers,
Speaker 5: prayers come true.
Speaker 3: That that's a special that's a special thing, no doubt.
Speaker 2: That's so that's got to be an unbelievable experience. And
Speaker 2: so you were draft in thirteen, diagnosed in fourteen, so
Speaker 2: you went through that for three years, with.
Speaker 3: That for three years, and then came back and you
Speaker 3: went through chemo and all that for three years. Three years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what now what I went through like an intensive
Speaker 5: part of chemo for about ten eleven months, like super
Speaker 5: intensive every twenty one days. I'd go in and I'd
Speaker 5: stay for a week in the hospital and then they
Speaker 5: would just dose you were like twenty four hour doses
Speaker 5: of chemo all that, and I.
Speaker 3: Did radiation for like five six weeks after that.
Speaker 5: And then I won like a maintenance chemo for the
Speaker 5: next two years basically, which was I would take daily chemo,
Speaker 5: weekly chemo, and then monthly going to get infusion.
Speaker 2: So this is a super agnorant question, but like what
Speaker 2: is like what is I know, chemo? Like what like
Speaker 2: how do you just get an iv you take my pill?
Speaker 2: Like what do you what does it feel like when
Speaker 2: you take? Do you actually do you feel awful?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You feel terrible, man, like super bad.
Speaker 1: Really like the intensive chemo, Like what's what's going on
Speaker 1: during this intense when you're like I'm in there for
Speaker 1: like week or like the worst parts, dude.
Speaker 3: They had this one chemo they call it the Red Devil,
Speaker 3: the docs of Rubusen. It was like the last.
Speaker 5: For like the last twenty eight hours of your stay there.
Speaker 5: You just get this red chemo that freaking pumps for
Speaker 5: twenty four hours all night, pumps IVY and they like
Speaker 5: turns your p rell red and your poop.
Speaker 4: That's the that's the like, is really the entire time
Speaker 4: is dripping.
Speaker 3: Yes and no. I mean like after my first round
Speaker 3: of chemo, I was like, oh man, this this it
Speaker 3: s ain't that bad. Like I'm you know, freaking with
Speaker 3: this thing.
Speaker 5: But then, like everyone you go, uh, it gets harder
Speaker 5: and harder because your body kind of gets wear down.
Speaker 5: Like chemo is like we're gonna kill, We're gonna go
Speaker 5: in there, We're gonna kill as many cancer cells as possible.
Speaker 3: But that comes along the way, is.
Speaker 5: Gonna do this, and then as soon as your body
Speaker 5: recovers all your your white blood cells and your red
Speaker 5: blood cells and your platelets, like as soon as they
Speaker 5: come back to a number, then they hit you again.
Speaker 5: So it's like a constant battle to get as much
Speaker 5: chemo in as possible and keep your body, get your
Speaker 5: body back to a healthy, healthy place. And like that's
Speaker 5: kind of the race that they do to kill all
Speaker 5: the cancer cells and then keep you. It's essentially poison,
Speaker 5: so you know, you're just trying to poison and kill
Speaker 5: those cells off and maintain the body being alive. And
Speaker 5: uh so progressively got worse as we went went harder,
Speaker 5: like after the first round and then use your hair,
Speaker 5: and then after that, now you have to start getting
Speaker 5: plate the transfusions and red blood cell transfusions, and uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really gnarly.
Speaker 5: Man. I was basically going to MD Anderson every day
Speaker 5: for like ten months because in between, in between rounds,
Speaker 5: you got to go back and you got to get
Speaker 5: certain certain shots to help your immune system, or infusions
Speaker 5: help your red blood cells or your platelets, and there's
Speaker 5: just always something. You take a million pills every day,
Speaker 5: twice a day, and it's brutal.
Speaker 3: It was a lot. Thankfully, my my.
Speaker 5: My mom, she came down to Houston and she kind
Speaker 5: of moved in with me during that time, and I
Speaker 5: had some time back back in San Diego, and that's
Speaker 5: actually where me and Megan got to spend spend a
Speaker 5: lot of time too. She was working for the Chargers
Speaker 5: at the time. And when you're going through your stuff
Speaker 5: in the.
Speaker 3: Hospital, like.
Speaker 5: You can't sleep because they're coming in there and they're
Speaker 5: poking you or taking your pulse or everything's deep in
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, it's just terrible. So I
Speaker 5: told her that she was working for the chargers, and
Speaker 5: so she would get up super early and just come
Speaker 5: hang out of the hospital with me while I was
Speaker 5: going through it, and we would just be talking super
Speaker 5: early in the morning before she had to get there.
Speaker 5: And because before I got diagnosed that off season we
Speaker 5: had we had started hung out a.
Speaker 3: Little bit and talk a little more. That's kind of
Speaker 3: where we got re kindled.
Speaker 5: And then I went through all this stuff and I
Speaker 5: went home to UCSD to do that round and that's
Speaker 5: when she started coming in the morning and were like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, something brought me back home to do this.
Speaker 5: I'm not in Houston right now doing it. You're working
Speaker 5: for the Chargers. Where spending this time as I'm going through.
Speaker 5: I'm going through, you know, the hardest thing in my life,
Speaker 5: and you're kind of one of the bright spots of
Speaker 5: this whole process. I get to hang out with you
Speaker 5: and it make my day better. And we just started
Speaker 5: talking more and more, and she was she was definitely
Speaker 5: an angel through the whole thing, and no doubt, you know,
Speaker 5: it's one of those things like everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 5: I was in Houston with mister McNair and I'm from
Speaker 5: San Diego and where she is.
Speaker 2: Dude, it's gotta just be like, girl, thank you, crazy situation,
Speaker 2: Like you're definitely it shows in your day to day
Speaker 2: like who you are as a person, like the energy,
Speaker 2: your energy and from a day to day basis, like
Speaker 2: you're always positive. There's never there's never a negative outlook
Speaker 2: that I've seen from you. But it's also like hearing
Speaker 2: We've been teammates for eighteen months, yeah, and I've this
Speaker 2: is the first time I've heard the story, and it's
Speaker 2: kind of like, shit, how do you ask somebody about
Speaker 2: this kind of experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't make it.
Speaker 5: I don't make it a point to like, yeah, tell
Speaker 5: it to everybody, but we want to come on and
Speaker 5: talk about it, like I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 5: the true story. I'm gonna tell you because it's not
Speaker 5: just a simple thing. It's super complicated and there's so
Speaker 5: many people that were helping me along the way that
Speaker 5: I'm gonna if I'm gonna tell it, I'm gonna tell it.
Speaker 3: Ye who I'm gonna tell.
Speaker 5: I gotta tell the whole thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I gotta talk about me meeting my wife in the
Speaker 5: middle of the hardest thing I've ever done. Or miss
Speaker 5: McNair who just had my back the whole way, or
Speaker 5: like being in Houston where it had this clinical trial.
Speaker 5: You know, I mean, there's too many things that that
Speaker 5: I think are kind of blessings along the way to
Speaker 5: believe that, hey, everything happens for a reason, and like,
Speaker 5: I'm still in it, man, I'm still I'm still doing.
Speaker 3: My thing, no question, I'm still doing my thing. So
Speaker 3: that was a that was important for me to have
Speaker 3: Megan during that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what a bond you two must have, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so you just hung out a couple of times and
Speaker 2: then you call like, man, I got cancer and she's
Speaker 2: probably Holy Ship, Like what a situation. You guys knew
Speaker 2: each other's middle school though she.
Speaker 3: Was probably and we knew there was something.
Speaker 5: We knew there was already something there before this happened,
Speaker 5: and yeah, it just kind of makes you realize, like, dude,
Speaker 5: I'm not here to waste any time, Like I'm I'm
Speaker 5: I'm here to live and I'm gonna get as much
Speaker 5: as i can out this life every day and I'm
Speaker 5: gonna marry. I'm gonna marry this woman. Let's get married.
Speaker 2: And when did you propose.
Speaker 3: After I finished all my treatments like that next month
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, and the text has paid for all your
Speaker 2: treatments and paid you.
Speaker 5: It was I was on the NiFi list yeah, and
Speaker 5: uh football illness list, so I wasn't really on the
Speaker 5: roster or anything. They kind of it's kind of like
Speaker 5: a they, so they can kind of do whatever they want.
Speaker 5: They can choose to pay you, choose to not pay you.
Speaker 3: And they did. And I had the health insurance from
Speaker 3: from when I was active, and they did.
Speaker 5: They helped me navigate that whole, that whole process of
Speaker 5: insurance and edify and and it was good. They were
Speaker 5: they were good to be married. I they'll all have
Speaker 5: a special place, you know, just because that is system
Speaker 5: mcor such a study.
Speaker 3: It's just a good type organization.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the top organization.
Speaker 1: What would you recall It was the hardest or lowest
Speaker 1: moment during that entire process, I mean several.
Speaker 3: The hardest thing.
Speaker 5: The hardest thing about it was like mentally because like
Speaker 5: by the end, by the end of that intensive treatment,
Speaker 5: you're looking in the mirror and you don't even recognize
Speaker 5: the person in the mirror.
Speaker 3: Really no hair. I had lost like fifty pounds.
Speaker 4: Like and feeling feeble and weak and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Like you're feeling like the worst hangover.
Speaker 5: Of your life, like every like food tastes like tenfoil,
Speaker 5: like you barely got energy to get out of bed
Speaker 5: some days, like it's it's it is, it was miserable
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, you hardly recognize that person in
Speaker 5: the mirror, and you start to think, you're, like, man,
Speaker 5: am I ever gonna come back and play football again?
Speaker 3: Like, am I how the hell am I going to
Speaker 3: get back to where I was? Because they put a
Speaker 3: pick line in you. That's how they do it.
Speaker 5: They don't stick you with an IV every time, because
Speaker 5: it's insane you're getting IV's all the time. So they
Speaker 5: put a pickline, which is like a permanent IV and
Speaker 5: uh that goes straight to a big artery in your
Speaker 5: heart so that can handle the chemo because these little veins,
Speaker 5: the chemo will just burn them up, and so like
Speaker 5: potent and so you.
Speaker 3: Have a pickline.
Speaker 5: But during and when you have a pickline, and you
Speaker 5: can't lift heavy weights, so the whole time like like
Speaker 5: lifting weights with the other with the other arms, trying
Speaker 5: to do it, but you don't want to pop the
Speaker 5: pick line out of place because you got to go
Speaker 5: put another one in and just avoid them, avoid the
Speaker 5: hospital at all costs. And you know, you're feeling weak,
Speaker 5: feeling hungover, feeling like a cancer patient, and you're like
Speaker 5: looking at myself in the mirror, like, I don't know
Speaker 5: how the hell I'm gonna get back to playing. And
Speaker 5: that was a really hard part for me because that's
Speaker 5: all that's all I'd ever want to do, you know,
Speaker 5: is playball, and I feel like it was getting ripped
Speaker 5: from me and there's nothing I could do about it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And so that was hard kind of process. And then
Speaker 5: just going through the whole thing being like I don't
Speaker 5: know what's on the other side of this. I don't
Speaker 5: know what you know, Yeah, twenty three, twenty four, like
Speaker 5: figuring it out, you know, figuring out what the the
Speaker 5: heck's going on, and now I got cancer and fighting
Speaker 5: for my life right now, like it was. That was
Speaker 5: that was tough to tough to go through. Thankfully, I
Speaker 5: surrounded by just studs, you know, teammates.
Speaker 1: And how many times you want did you feel like,
Speaker 1: man if I could just quit, like I just want
Speaker 1: to fucking.
Speaker 5: No, I don't think I ever felt like I wanted
Speaker 5: to quit, Like, of course I wanted to like not
Speaker 5: do it anymore, but I didn't want to like finish
Speaker 5: early or not not finish my finish the treatments that
Speaker 5: they had planned for me, because they kind of have
Speaker 5: a plan, they have it mapped out for you. They
Speaker 5: tweak it along the way, but you can kind of
Speaker 5: tell when, yeah, Bluebern gonna get this. So there's like
Speaker 5: I was going to finish it no matter what and
Speaker 5: then see what happened after that. But it was not
Speaker 5: fun going in there every day and yeah, dealing with
Speaker 5: all that.
Speaker 2: When you do when you do the chemo, how long
Speaker 2: would the like that feeling you were talking about a
Speaker 2: feelings so bad? How long would that last until you
Speaker 2: did the next chemo?
Speaker 3: It would get worse and worse every time, Like you
Speaker 3: don't get stronger the mark.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like it wasn't like you would do the
Speaker 2: whatever pickline thing and that would last for an hour
Speaker 2: and then you'd be like, well, like I kind of
Speaker 2: feel better now. It wouldn't be anything like that. It'd
Speaker 2: be like constantly just feel.
Speaker 3: Like constantly feeling man. Yeah, it was brutal, man, It
Speaker 3: was really brutal.
Speaker 2: That'd be so hard. That's be such a hard thing
Speaker 2: to process in your head because like.
Speaker 3: Dark, dark, dark, you know, because you can't can't ever sleep.
Speaker 3: You just feel terribly.
Speaker 5: I gotta get up, you're gonna puke or like something
Speaker 5: doesn't go right. You know, you're not sleeping, You're feeling terrible.
Speaker 5: It's just it sucks, man, It really, it just sucked.
Speaker 2: Had to be hard for your mom and your wife.
Speaker 1: That decision, no question or people coming around there they
Speaker 1: want to give you something you could want to help.
Speaker 1: You can probably just sense like, yo, don't don't fucking
Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: That was another thing too, was it was a very
Speaker 5: private thing that you're going through, but it was very
Speaker 5: public in Houston. Yeah, you know, people in Houston, they
Speaker 5: do know my story, and I think it's important that
Speaker 5: people in Nashville do too.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm like, you asked me to come on.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I've been aches to hear your story
Speaker 2: for a while. But like how many the breaks that
Speaker 2: Keith give us, thee breaks, It's just it's tough, it's
Speaker 2: and it's tough, like when it's a traumatic experience, Like
Speaker 2: how do you go and talk to somebody about.
Speaker 3: That and like, yeah, matter bring it up in a conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tax you to the bar so.
Speaker 4: Like do you know, hey, you're getting coffee. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: like cancer deal.
Speaker 2: And that was pretty I mean we've everybody's mentioned it
Speaker 2: and talked about it in the locker room and it's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, Rabel, we talked about this in the weight
Speaker 2: room one time. I was like, you don't really like
Speaker 2: people talking about it because I like Rabel or somebody
Speaker 2: said something and you could I could feel you were like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Like, but I feel like there's a
Speaker 2: part of you that's like I'm done with that piece
Speaker 2: of my life, Like I just want to be a
Speaker 2: football player, like I want to go back.
Speaker 5: Like it's a weird dynamic to to try to balance
Speaker 5: because it is like a respect thing when somebody does
Speaker 5: and I do appreciate it, like yeah, it's got to
Speaker 5: be cancer and he's still here and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I appreciate that, but it's also like not the first
Speaker 5: thing I want people to think about when when they
Speaker 5: talk about me or what I do. And so it's
Speaker 5: like a it's a weird thing to you know, trying
Speaker 5: to navigate. But you know, whenever Vrabel does it, I'm
Speaker 5: not like embarrassed or anything, but no, but then what.
Speaker 3: I meant, but it's when it's a focus.
Speaker 5: Apart from like other good things I'm doing that I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: like I appreciate it, but also like kick an ass
Speaker 5: over here, so like let's let's talk ball. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not trying to always always talk it.
Speaker 5: But but if I'm gonna talk it, then it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt dude, Well that I.
Speaker 1: Mean yeah, I mean you after that, you you come
Speaker 1: back and play, what was the emotion like when you
Speaker 1: put the jersey on?
Speaker 4: Actually play again?
Speaker 2: How much old before that?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: How much did you weigh? You finished all your treatments everything?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How much? What were you looking like? What was your
Speaker 2: feeling like? Like, what was like your mental.
Speaker 3: I don't even know, I could probably figure it out,
Speaker 3: but dude, terrible.
Speaker 5: Just imagine taking like ten months off and getting poisoned
Speaker 5: the whole time and then you're still on chemo trying
Speaker 5: to like come back and work out.
Speaker 3: Like it was brutal, man, it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: It was so tough. But you know, there's no you
Speaker 5: just gotta grind away. And the further away from it
Speaker 5: I get, like, the better I feel, like, the more
Speaker 5: energy I feel, the more I can the more I
Speaker 5: can think, the more I can go. It's it's cool
Speaker 5: to like I don't feel like I'm still recovering, but
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm still getting healthier, which is which up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like it was so traumatic and it was so long,
Speaker 5: like as an athlete, like you can feel little little
Speaker 5: changes in your body, like for better or worse, and
Speaker 5: like I do feel like I'm still getting better from
Speaker 5: from from my treatment from those three years of chemo.
Speaker 5: You see me, man, I'm out there every day just dude,
Speaker 5: full of it. No way, no, yeah, And I'm just
Speaker 5: like dude, there's only one way to get it, get
Speaker 5: it back, and that's just just grind.
Speaker 2: Do you feel do you feel like you do you
Speaker 2: feel that back to normal one hundred percent now?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I feel I feel a hundred percent great now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I do feel like the further away from.
Speaker 2: I get, like the better the better next year, ye
Speaker 2: if that's.
Speaker 3: Percent is growing, Like I feel like, yeah, I'm back
Speaker 3: like I can and you.
Speaker 2: You said this, to me when we were in I
Speaker 2: think it was Baltimore because we were talking about N
Speaker 2: A D Y and IV is. I don't really mess
Speaker 2: with what I put in my body like that, even
Speaker 2: like and it is like not proven, but it's like
Speaker 2: one of the things that used to kill cancer cells.
Speaker 4: It's like.
Speaker 2: It's like the next wave of anti you guys were.
Speaker 5: You guys were all on the N A D trains.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, let's see what it is. But I'm
Speaker 5: always super hesitant to like.
Speaker 2: Put things in your body anything anything.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I just I mean, I do
Speaker 3: know why, but I just don't. I just don't. I
Speaker 3: just don't like to mess because.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Does it feel like like, are you
Speaker 2: hesitanting to put like fast food in your body or
Speaker 2: like pizza or like ship, like that crush pizza in Vegas.
Speaker 5: I don't think that's my cancer just because I don't
Speaker 5: like to eat like ship. Yeah, athlete, you know fair enough,
Speaker 5: you know, but uh, we did crush some pizza in Vegas.
Speaker 2: Sometimes the boys that after it. I tell you what,
Speaker 2: we went in and out Burger and you got that,
Speaker 2: uh the fries animal style, animal style. But like I
Speaker 2: knew that, but you said medium, well medium, well medium, well,
Speaker 2: so like they're extra crispy when you eat them because
Speaker 2: they got a little sot the sauce or something.
Speaker 1: What's video video right here, I'm trying to load it up.
Speaker 2: The WiFi is not cooperating, but it's uh, it's David
Speaker 2: ringing the bell after he finished his treatments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was. That was three years after three
Speaker 3: years after I got a diagonal.
Speaker 5: That was after all that, and if it'll play, he
Speaker 5: rings the ship out of it, brings the ship out
Speaker 5: of it, look at him.
Speaker 4: I ended up sizing it out.
Speaker 2: Someone talking to you what they're saying.
Speaker 5: No, you read that, you kind of read the and
Speaker 5: everybody's trying to FaceTime my brothers and stuff.
Speaker 2: Here, like, let me ring this damn bell.
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm done with this place.
Speaker 5: That's an awesome big day. Everybody flew down for that.
Speaker 5: I mean, hell, dude, that is I think it wasn't
Speaker 5: the NFL lineman.
Speaker 2: So you so you finished, you finished, you get engaged.
Speaker 5: Boom, you're married back and then we're back in the
Speaker 5: we're back doing it. We're back in OTAs and all.
Speaker 4: That, and this is twenty seventeen seventeen.
Speaker 2: So you right back in the mix, right.
Speaker 5: Back in the mix, and uh, hop into it and dude,
Speaker 5: it that was tough. That was super tough, Like oh
Speaker 5: that first training camp, like my neck every time I
Speaker 5: would try to hit somebody, it was just like, you
Speaker 5: know what.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's you can't you can't mimic that in
Speaker 3: the weight room. You can't like that.
Speaker 5: You know you're down there, you're trying to block JJ
Speaker 5: and you're trying. You know, man, I'm I'm I'm a
Speaker 5: bit rusty, a bit rusty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 5: Sloppy, like the tempo like this is is the NFL.
Speaker 5: You know, this is you gotta you gotta you gotta
Speaker 5: step your ship up.
Speaker 3: And so they did.
Speaker 5: They put on practice squad. But then I came back
Speaker 5: and played the end. Had you on practice squad having
Speaker 5: pad at the end of the year. Uh, And they
Speaker 5: active with me at the end and so that was
Speaker 5: fine and I played tight end pretty much.
Speaker 3: That that year.
Speaker 5: And then the yeah, next year, they cut me again.
Speaker 5: You know, it was a new GM and everything, and
Speaker 5: they drafted some guys, some free agents. I was literally
Speaker 5: sitting there.
Speaker 4: So you got cut. They brought you on Peace squad
Speaker 4: right away, right away from there. By the end of
Speaker 4: the year, they activated me. They activated yeah, and then
Speaker 4: the next year you got cut again after training camp.
Speaker 5: After training camp, and then I was just sitting there
Speaker 5: like pretty bummed, like, oh man, I you know played,
Speaker 5: I thought I would be part of this again.
Speaker 3: But you know it is like you feel good in
Speaker 3: the camp, Yeah, I felt I felt really fell super
Speaker 3: super solid. I felt good.
Speaker 5: But it's the league, and uh, it's the league. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you never know what's gonna happen. So I was like
Speaker 5: sitting there like I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: So I.
Speaker 5: Texted like everybody I knew that was an OC or
Speaker 5: a head coach or whatever, and Verybel had just taken
Speaker 5: the job. And Rabel got close in Houston because when
Speaker 5: I first got diagnosed, he would text me like a
Speaker 5: couple few times a week, like thinking about your buddy,
Speaker 5: Like that's the old an ass back out here, like
Speaker 5: you know, just like you know what I mean, just
Speaker 5: the banter Vabels does and he's great at and it
Speaker 5: was always fun. And then during that three year time, uh,
Speaker 5: his son Tyler, who was in high school, he was
Speaker 5: a defensive line when I was when I first when
Speaker 5: I first saw him down there, and I told Verybone,
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, he looks exactly like I had, just
Speaker 5: super tall, long arms, long legs, like growth spurt too
Speaker 5: fast for his you know, coordination to catch up with.
Speaker 5: Like he's he's gonna be an old line like make
Speaker 5: that switch. And I think they talked about it or whatever,
Speaker 5: and you know, eventually, like the next year, he's like, hey,
Speaker 5: would you like to, you know, go through some stuff
Speaker 5: with Tyler and and and show him a few drill
Speaker 5: because I would try to do drills, line drills every day.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 5: So we kind of went through it, and he wasn't
Speaker 5: he was a natural obviously, you know, he's kicking ascid
Speaker 5: Boston College. But that's kind of me and Verbel. I
Speaker 5: had gotten gotten close throughout those treatments. So I texted
Speaker 5: him and like, dude, I'm looking for any opportunity, like
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to play ball man, and he's like,
Speaker 5: you know, let's take a look at some things, and
Speaker 5: he flew me in for well, they Titans flew me
Speaker 5: in for a workout.
Speaker 3: The next week. When when was this what point of
Speaker 3: the year that was week two, just after my team
Speaker 3: you were there, Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 5: They're like, dude, were going to sign it a PreK squad.
Speaker 5: I'm like, not ideal, but dude, any opportunity, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean, ye arena, Like I just want to keep working, like.
Speaker 3: I just keep on better and better and better. And
Speaker 3: uh so I'm like, let's let's do it. And that
Speaker 3: was dope. It is And I remember the text I
Speaker 3: got from you after.
Speaker 2: That and.
Speaker 3: Boom, sign practice squad And I.
Speaker 4: Just when when did you practice squad?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They signed you the practice squad, right, Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When did they activate him?
Speaker 4: Oh, European squad the entire year, you know, twenty nineteen
Speaker 4: mm and then.
Speaker 3: This year made the squad scored the touchdown.
Speaker 2: The next week or whatever it was, It was the
Speaker 2: week I got back, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the week after you got back.
Speaker 2: And then there was a huge plumber. Yeah that was
Speaker 2: such a cool use the best parpart, Like, so this
Speaker 2: is against the Colts, the most the hotest game you
Speaker 2: very probably played in, right, Yeah that was yeah. I
Speaker 2: was literally getting this tattoo in my hand watching this game,
Speaker 2: thinking of ship that looks hot as fun out there brutal,
Speaker 2: but he snipped it, dude, like it was behind you
Speaker 2: and you like turned and got that thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
Speaker 4: How dope was that?
Speaker 3: This was sick? Man?
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: So they put this in Friday and there was four Baits.
Speaker 2: No yeah, Darren Bates.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was a full back right there, that's where
Speaker 3: he lined up. And DB's out there, Yeah, go to
Speaker 3: like the middle, yeah, going out of the fly and
Speaker 3: so they.
Speaker 2: No, no, keep going the other way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that way. I was telling my wife on Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they put a plane going out on a route.
Speaker 4: Baits the full back, look at him, dude, let's go.
Speaker 3: And they're all looking for at the Laney going the
Speaker 3: other way.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And uh, I told my wife, I'm like, there's a
Speaker 5: chance I could possibly get it, but they're gonna everyone's
Speaker 5: gonna look at the Laney base and be wide open,
Speaker 5: gonna go to base.
Speaker 3: But who knows, you know what I mean, who knows,
Speaker 3: who knows what will happen?
Speaker 5: So to even play it, because it was like down
Speaker 5: the list on the on the play calls yeah let's
Speaker 5: see and sure ship we get down there first time
Speaker 5: on the goal line hey, this is it is running
Speaker 5: out and uh, I release and I look back and
Speaker 5: I see Marcus like look at baits see Derek fall
Speaker 5: down because he chop locked that dude.
Speaker 3: And then he looked right at me and I was
Speaker 3: wide open. I'm like, oh, he's about to throw me
Speaker 3: this ball right the next thing, you know, like there
Speaker 3: it is. Don't drop this ship.
Speaker 2: And it was a really well done because you get
Speaker 2: in there, who's that sell it? Boom snip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 5: Man. That was just like a super cool moment, full circle,
Speaker 5: everything kind of coming back, like, bro, you.
Speaker 3: Just score a touchdown in the NFL like this in.
Speaker 4: Nineteen after going through years of fucking oh my god.
Speaker 5: My own just grinding, and so I was that was
Speaker 5: super cool to be able to put that up on
Speaker 5: the mantle and like a moment for.
Speaker 3: Me and my family.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah was uh who's at the game?
Speaker 5: My wife and her and her brother and his wife
Speaker 5: and they didn't even know. I didn't even tell him.
Speaker 5: I'm like, probably not going to happen.
Speaker 4: You just told your wife it's not going to get
Speaker 4: their helps up.
Speaker 3: Like there's a there's a chance, but it's very small.
Speaker 2: God, I would give it. I would have given away
Speaker 2: right there early.
Speaker 5: Dad was early because by the end of it, my
Speaker 5: hands were just so sweaty and the gloves were wet
Speaker 5: weather gloves down first touchdown of the year at Nissan.
Speaker 3: About that. That's pretty rad.
Speaker 2: That's really rad, dude.
Speaker 4: That is a red fucking story.
Speaker 3: Love love Arthur's play calling on.
Speaker 2: The get he he loves getting off its line and touchdowns.
Speaker 4: I mean, how many big man touchdowns you guys have
Speaker 4: this year?
Speaker 3: Thre we had four in it was one for Taylor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well people, we had three and we had three
Speaker 2: touchdowns three three plays in. But it was likest to
Speaker 2: Dennis Scott to you got one man who knows.
Speaker 4: I remember when we were playing you guys.
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, if we're on goal line and
Speaker 1: Taylor is eligible, cover him because he's getting the ball.
Speaker 1: That's like what I was thinking. I was like, the
Speaker 1: boy says he's got to play in like a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks back some of a.
Speaker 2: Bit, you're gonna take away my touchdown.
Speaker 3: Guarded?
Speaker 4: There something wrong with my mic. It doesn't sound like
Speaker 4: it's think you're good, it's good man.
Speaker 2: Well anyway, I don't even know when talk about anything else, dude,
Speaker 2: this this has been one of my faorite podcasts coming
Speaker 2: in here, like just have an opportunity to talk pick
Speaker 2: your brain about like that whole thing people we go
Speaker 2: through at versity during the season.
Speaker 3: You go through adversity.
Speaker 2: It's back life.
Speaker 5: Everybody everybody has, yeah, has some you know what I
Speaker 5: mean in my mind just happens to be something that
Speaker 5: is super gnarly, like as.
Speaker 2: Wild, you know, and absolutely and I'm.
Speaker 5: Glad it's not like a I mean, it is a
Speaker 5: super public thing, but I'm glad I can kind of
Speaker 5: tell my story on a podcast like yours. It's actually
Speaker 5: like legit, Like, dude, there's been a busting with the
Speaker 5: boys banner at every away game this year. I'm glad,
Speaker 5: but uh, you know, just come on and like share
Speaker 5: it genuinely because the people that do know my story,
Speaker 5: like people whose families or kids that are going through it, like.
Speaker 3: It's powerful to them.
Speaker 5: Like when I was going through it, I was always
Speaker 5: looking for like survivor stories, like guys that have gone
Speaker 5: through treatments and gone or run iron Man are gone
Speaker 5: on you know, playball to play you know, play their
Speaker 5: respective sports at a high level. Like that was always
Speaker 5: something that helped keep me motivated, and so like, if
Speaker 5: I can do that for someone else, like to seriously.
Speaker 4: And I mean, you definitely are bro you be you be.
Speaker 1: It's like you there's like Eric Berry, I've gotten to
Speaker 1: hear those guys speak to and it's just it's just insane.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: It's a wild it's a wild ride. It's something I
Speaker 5: pray that eventually that people aren't gonna have to go
Speaker 5: through it. You know, there's gonna a cure some day.
Speaker 5: I mean, uh, that's not like kind of what I
Speaker 5: went through. Something a little more or cause for it
Speaker 5: or just figuring out and they're working on they're getting close,
Speaker 5: they're getting.
Speaker 2: Close, and you think, you think it's within our lifetime.
Speaker 5: I pray, man, I pray no one's got to go
Speaker 5: through what I went through going through through But it's it's, uh,
Speaker 5: it's something that I'm I'm proud of, like I'm proud
Speaker 5: to be it. But it's not something that I throw
Speaker 5: out there a lot. But it's not something I'm gonna
Speaker 5: shy away from.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like how I whether you like you
Speaker 1: have a story that truly can impact people, you know,
Speaker 1: not in like a bragging way.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't want to.
Speaker 5: That's why I don't want to say like it was easy,
Speaker 5: Like it wasn't easy, Like it was really hard. Like
Speaker 5: there were some days where I couldn't even get out
Speaker 5: of bed man, like you probably didn't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want to.
Speaker 5: Some days I couldn't eat, like they're like, and I
Speaker 5: don't want somebody who's going through it to think like,
Speaker 5: oh man, look look how easy it was for him
Speaker 5: to like be didn't come back, Like, no, it was
Speaker 5: not easy, Like that was really hard, And that's okay.
Speaker 5: You know it's okay to be like I'm not getting
Speaker 5: out of bed today, right, like when you're going through
Speaker 5: like I don't got the energy for that, Like that's
Speaker 5: that's okay, Like you know what you're you're fighting your
Speaker 5: ass off, like you can have days and times like that,
Speaker 5: but you just got to keep you just got to
Speaker 5: keep going.
Speaker 2: Do you think it was important for you to get
Speaker 2: moving sometimes just to like yeah, in the right mental
Speaker 2: mental space, like even if I feel like shit, I
Speaker 2: gotta get up, I gotta do some sort of even
Speaker 2: if it's just walking around the hospital lot do a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that that helps.
Speaker 7: That helps too. That always helps, but sometimes you don't
Speaker 7: even got sometimes in the tank for that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 7: just brutal to think about, like you're such you're this
Speaker 7: this big dominating figure, like you're a big dude.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You're strong as ship. And
Speaker 2: to think about like you can even get out of
Speaker 2: better take a walk, like take a lap is a
Speaker 2: crazy concept, even small.
Speaker 3: I don't want a sugarcoat like my story or like
Speaker 3: that was easier or nothing. I take it. I think
Speaker 3: it's seriously when people, no doubt people talk about it, ask.
Speaker 2: Me, it's just I don't know. It's it's hard to see,
Speaker 2: like kids go through that stuff too. I can't believe it.
Speaker 3: That's brutal.
Speaker 5: And it's tough to see the families because they're just
Speaker 5: sitting there kind of helpless.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That's always a super I know.
Speaker 4: It's like all they can do is.
Speaker 1: Try and give you words of encouragement or try to
Speaker 1: read you and be like what kind of energy should
Speaker 1: I give them the day? But it's a wild man,
Speaker 1: and you just never you also, you talk about you
Speaker 1: don't shy away from telling the story, but you're never
Speaker 1: like out in front of it. But also at the
Speaker 1: same time, like you never know who's watching, whether it
Speaker 1: seems like the story's cool or not. Somebody's in the
Speaker 1: background kind of observing you regardless, Like Taylor's sitting here
Speaker 1: saying like I noticed it watching you on the field,
Speaker 1: like carring yourself. He might not ever tell you that,
Speaker 1: but you just know, like people are watching and you're
Speaker 1: affecting them, you know what I mean. Like this guy
Speaker 1: kind of had this story. I hear this rumor and
Speaker 1: he's watching, Like yo, this, this dude inspires me to
Speaker 1: go a little harder.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's not even, but it's not.
Speaker 2: I don't look at it. I don't look at you
Speaker 2: and go that's David Questionber, he'd be cancer. Like I
Speaker 2: just see the way you handle yourself on a day
Speaker 2: to day basis, and like you know me, and you
Speaker 2: know I'm like, mister, I'm pretty much bipolar in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways. Like there will be days of my pies,
Speaker 2: of days of I'm pretty down low during practice, but
Speaker 2: I'm still like fop this or whatever. And it's like
Speaker 2: consistency as a human being is one of the hardest
Speaker 2: things to obtain.
Speaker 3: And like.
Speaker 2: To watch you go through what you did it's not
Speaker 2: like the first thing on my mind every time I
Speaker 2: see you. But do the consistency that you operate at
Speaker 2: from like August into the middle of January. You know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how many snaps of person plays, that
Speaker 2: stuff weighs on you. And so it's it's good to
Speaker 2: have around. It's really it's it's it's important.
Speaker 5: Do I just love it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: I love the group we got saw a group. I
Speaker 5: love coming in and just working my craft like that.
Speaker 5: I love being alignment, like I love everything about it,
Speaker 5: you know. And I think we've got a good thing going, dude.
Speaker 5: I think we had a really good thing going in
Speaker 5: in in Tennessee. We got a really fun group.
Speaker 3: Like that Vegas trip but you kidding that that was
Speaker 3: a blast, dude.
Speaker 5: And and just me being able to like stay in
Speaker 5: the arena state in the fight, like I'm gonna go
Speaker 5: as long as I can, you know, And I'm gonna
Speaker 5: give it everything I got every day for as long
Speaker 5: as I can. And you know, I'm out there trying
Speaker 5: to kill killing myself a practice, and I love it,
Speaker 5: you know. I just that's that's that's me. And I
Speaker 5: I'd like to say I was that way before I
Speaker 5: got diagnosed, but I'm sure even now it's like it's
Speaker 5: even more you know.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, you've you've had to look something in
Speaker 2: the eye that a lot of people don't have to.
Speaker 2: You know that they never really have to see you,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like that, Yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 1: And you had to look in the eye and no
Speaker 1: one's coming to save you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you that's crazy, man, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: Well we're in a good spot now, man, I got
Speaker 5: I got a dog, I got a wife, dope dog.
Speaker 5: Just staring in the eyes, right Tennessee. So be here
Speaker 5: next year to throw down, you know for the boys. Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: I really, I really like we're right now. They don't
Speaker 5: come on the bus with the boys hang out a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 2: What do you think about the bus?
Speaker 3: I'm impressed, man, this is this is actually a pretty
Speaker 3: good setup.
Speaker 5: You got here.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I feel like people think it's way more
Speaker 2: janky than it actually is. We got a D setup.
Speaker 1: It's a D setup, man, Yeah, it's a D setup.
Speaker 1: Like I you were saying, like, oh, it's cool you
Speaker 1: saw people with away games. I was telling Taylor, I
Speaker 1: was like, I was out on the field. We're putting
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Fisher there left tackle. I was like
Speaker 1: in my stands and he's like, hey, busting with the boys.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was like, oh sick. And then hey, when
Speaker 4: I get on the podcast, I was just.
Speaker 1: Thinking in my head like, yeah, let's just talk after
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is fucking dope though that it's
Speaker 4: that you're saying that it's starting.
Speaker 3: Everyone. Everyone's trying to get on the bus.
Speaker 2: You get on the bus. Everyone's invited, dude. Yeah, everyone's
Speaker 2: definitely invited, and we appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 5: Man, Oh my pleasure guy. Yeah, the vable thing was
Speaker 5: really coming back around. That gave you a lot of
Speaker 5: a lot of cloud and yeah.
Speaker 2: And one more game, one more I would have showed up.
Speaker 2: I would have showed up in a nurse like a
Speaker 2: surgeon's outfit, like going into the locker room with a
Speaker 2: giant machete in my hand before the game.
Speaker 4: Dude, that thing got a lot of fun. Did you
Speaker 4: see the grid Iron Heights? Yeah, that she was hilarious.
Speaker 2: What's up, Eels, I will cut off my dick to
Speaker 2: beat you.
Speaker 1: He throws the blurred version of ye. Everybody like spots
Speaker 1: on there.
Speaker 2: Uh, grid Iron Heights definitely did him a lot of favorites.
Speaker 2: That's a big piece.
Speaker 1: That's a big piece, a big piece. I told Taylor too,
Speaker 1: I was like, you guys ended up losing when he
Speaker 1: cleared the air and said he wasn't really going to
Speaker 1: he was just trying to give us something on the bus.
Speaker 4: He didn't want to let us down.
Speaker 1: And sure enough, I can't said that the boys lost
Speaker 1: and that's I think that's what happened.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You should have kept saying, yeah, I'm ready to cut
Speaker 1: this thing off after we went to beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: You guys want to you know, we should have beat
Speaker 2: the Chiefs too. Like the way that that game went.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because week ten, we were like up by
Speaker 2: ten or they were up by ten and we ended
Speaker 2: up winning. And I remember being the first quarter we
Speaker 2: were up by ten and I was like fuck and
Speaker 2: I thought that was like fuck, we're up by ten
Speaker 2: this time, like it was a weird setup.
Speaker 4: Charles like, hey, look in the Miami and I was like,
Speaker 4: don't jink them.
Speaker 1: I text her back later that that that he jinked them, dude.
Speaker 2: It was going. It was so like that that the run,
Speaker 2: I mean the whole game. You never lose a game
Speaker 2: by like one play, right, but like the run going
Speaker 2: into half that Mahomes had, they got they got the
Speaker 2: ball back half because they were up by was it
Speaker 2: time it was seventeen seventeen. I think it was seventeen seventeen. No,
Speaker 2: you're right, it was seventeen fourteen. No, yeah, because I.
Speaker 4: How did you get four points after you had ten?
Speaker 1: So I'm off I'm off on some maybe twenty one
Speaker 1: to seventeen.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we had we scored three to
Speaker 2: the first drive, seven to second drive, seven to the
Speaker 2: third drive, so we had seventeen points.
Speaker 4: Oh they had fourteen.
Speaker 2: They had fourteen. I remember looking at Ben Jones and
Speaker 2: I was like, it's gonna be seventeen seventeen at half.
Speaker 2: I was like, perfect, dude, we're even with the best
Speaker 2: offense in the league at halftime and we're like we
Speaker 2: are like statistically the best second half team. And then
Speaker 2: they scored. I was like fuck, I know, And that
Speaker 2: was oh.
Speaker 4: Watching that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a couple
Speaker 4: there at the end where you're.
Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, you know, he ran out, like ran
Speaker 2: out to the right and like just hail married that
Speaker 2: thing down the middle. Buddy caught it was like like
Speaker 2: Sammy Watkins caught it on like the ten yard line.
Speaker 2: That was a fucking heartbreaker right out from that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well you caught a bunch of hype from good Morning America. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good morning, good morning football. Yeah, shout out to good
Speaker 2: Morning football. The free shoutouts that was.
Speaker 4: That was Good Morning Football was about the boy this
Speaker 4: whole dude.
Speaker 2: They were showing Derek's like stiff arm and Kyle Brandt,
Speaker 2: who is one of my favorite people to watch going rants.
Speaker 2: It's like you see this guy though. Those guys in
Speaker 2: sleeves there you got the perfect like the quarter cut
Speaker 2: like sleep less. It's got like a little tiny baby
Speaker 2: sleeve like that, like the eighties straight coach, dude, you
Speaker 2: were born too late. You're an eighties guy through.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well they came up to me, Arthur and and
Speaker 5: Raves did like after the Denver game, like we just
Speaker 5: missed your presence on the sideline.
Speaker 2: Bro, Like they said that, yeah, hell yeah, you're.
Speaker 3: Coming to all the away games.
Speaker 5: I was like, let's do it, like my presence of
Speaker 5: like fad Man bicep girls before the game.
Speaker 2: Girls hard there's a couple of games. I was like,
Speaker 2: kind of like, man, I need a little pump, and
Speaker 2: i'd see you doing it. I'd go grab a band
Speaker 2: and by the end of the year we had a
Speaker 2: good group of gott to keep that piece going. Just
Speaker 2: a little vein working there.
Speaker 4: A little vein little Well, you got questions up there?
Speaker 4: What do you guys enjoy more? Run block or pass block?
Speaker 4: From our fellow friend Jake Disher.
Speaker 2: Run all yeah, probably run pass blocking? Stressful, dude, stressful
Speaker 2: third down, three jets, Yeah they are. How difficult does
Speaker 2: to make the mid season switch from protecting Mario to Tannehill?
Speaker 4: Is there even a difference?
Speaker 3: No, not really.
Speaker 2: I hadn't notice the difference between protecting Mario and Tannehill.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's not like you try harder
Speaker 2: for one of the other, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like it's your job, Like I love both those guys,
Speaker 2: but let's say I didn't like one of those guys.
Speaker 2: I still block just as hard. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Exactly what's it like playing with Taylor from Hands RIVERA.
Speaker 3: I think Taylor said it, you never know what you're
Speaker 3: gonna get with Taylor.
Speaker 5: When he comes in in the morning, I think he's
Speaker 5: like that comes in, someone will say something to him,
Speaker 5: like uh, a coach or something that'll say wedding to him.
Speaker 3: And he comes in, You're like, well, my day's ruined.
Speaker 3: Get rid for a long one, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 5: What I'm talking about, or some days he comes in
Speaker 5: he's like, man, I slept great, and it's just like
Speaker 5: the most awesome day ever.
Speaker 2: But dude, I don't do well with authority. I do
Speaker 2: not do well with authority. And when when people are
Speaker 2: on my case, my fucking.
Speaker 3: First thing in the morning too, I haven't even had
Speaker 3: a cup of coffee.
Speaker 2: Seven years meeting started eight keith, not seven thirty, And
Speaker 2: I go in early with seven thirty and they say
Speaker 2: something to me, fucking day's ruined. The fucking day is ruined.
Speaker 2: And I meet it as a joke, but then it
Speaker 2: ends up being real. I always start off on being like, no, fuck,
Speaker 2: I'm kidding guys, and then like something in my head's like,
Speaker 2: but you're not kidding. Taylor, kill these motherfuckers.
Speaker 5: No, there's so much like energy surrounding this guy, you know,
Speaker 5: like there's just every day and so like it's always
Speaker 5: we got action.
Speaker 3: Every day, we got action, got action, and so I'm
Speaker 3: about it. That is always fun.
Speaker 2: The we were when after we played Baltimore, Keith came in,
Speaker 2: is like, I don't know what you guys are doing,
Speaker 2: but keep doing it, Like, keep everything the same. There's
Speaker 2: gonna be day. I'm in a weird mood. There's gonna
Speaker 2: be day. Taylor is in a weird mood. Yeah, me
Speaker 2: in a bad mood. You No, I'm just kidding, Like god, dude,
Speaker 2: I can't get a little bipolar though, for real.
Speaker 3: Only when Nate doesn't do what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 2: That's like a big Nate. Nate started out as the
Speaker 2: worst rookie ever, and it as the second worst rookie ever. Dude,
Speaker 2: he like game.
Speaker 4: He did better.
Speaker 2: Up, he went up, he did better. He was great
Speaker 2: in Vegas. He was great in Vegas. He did a
Speaker 2: good job. He got tackle turkeys a couple of times. Categories,
Speaker 2: but awful category. We were playing categories. You never play
Speaker 2: King's Cup. Yeah, we'll get to categories. And it was
Speaker 2: you right, You're like names of names of countries and
Speaker 2: just countries in general.
Speaker 3: Country in the world.
Speaker 2: He's the first person says North America, like yo, just
Speaker 2: like it's a continent. I understand. I would understand if
Speaker 2: he said Africa. If you said Africa, like like that's
Speaker 2: you're not from there, you don't live in that area,
Speaker 2: like I've said that before. Yeah, you know, but like
Speaker 2: it's Antarctica, like that's a continent.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But like North America you're talking about, you're about with
Speaker 2: the place you live, like you're born there.
Speaker 4: Then that's the one you went with.
Speaker 3: That's that's a tough answer.
Speaker 4: But what was it like being a hard knocks with
Speaker 4: the Texans?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: Wait were you were you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They went to the hospitals. Man, we did all that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh really so you didn't come to Washington.
Speaker 3: No, I was in Washington.
Speaker 4: Were you playing?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I was going through my stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was epic.
Speaker 4: H yeah, yeah, that was epic.
Speaker 3: That you guys.
Speaker 4: That was all you guys.
Speaker 3: That was for sure.
Speaker 2: You see the day before, I know, everybody.
Speaker 4: Was like, you know, the coaches were like or were
Speaker 4: they like pissed off.
Speaker 3: Because we landed off the plane straight to practice.
Speaker 2: And that's just one of the most unsafe things to
Speaker 2: get the worst.
Speaker 5: It's the worst and it was a really shitty practice
Speaker 5: and they kicked our ass and uh and the next
Speaker 5: night in the meetings, it was like I'm not saying fight,
Speaker 5: but I'm not saying not fight. I want my team
Speaker 5: to be a bunch of badasses. And everyone's like I
Speaker 5: was about to go down.
Speaker 3: Ship like it went down.
Speaker 2: It worked.
Speaker 1: Everybody thought they split us up and then finished was over. Dude, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we gotta go leave early, which we thought was awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a gig.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If if it's like, hey, don't fight or we're gonna
Speaker 2: enenter practice early, I'm swinging the first through. I'm swinging first.
Speaker 4: That's usually leave it. I can't even it was.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing like some video footage Vince Wilfork almost
Speaker 1: connected with somebody on some huge haymaker and I was.
Speaker 4: Like that person would have died, yea for real.
Speaker 2: Vince is a huge, huge man and that body.
Speaker 4: Was off the ground throwing a haymaker. He just missed.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, he would have killed somebody connected with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a scrap.
Speaker 2: That was a good scrap. He fucked that center up too.
Speaker 2: I saw a video of like Vince taking the redskin.
Speaker 2: They were doing the one on ones and took the
Speaker 2: Redskins center like ten yards past the dummy past.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Corey lichtenstigger. He's like an undersized center too.
Speaker 2: He got smokehouse slapped and tickled. I should happens, dude.
Speaker 2: People get got all the time, God all the time.
Speaker 3: That's all. That's pretty much all it. Vince has got
Speaker 3: right there. But that if he if he hit this.
Speaker 4: It's a big it's a big human being.
Speaker 2: Was I hit him one time? I got a stare
Speaker 2: and didn't even seen me coming, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I ripped in there and boom, He's like like one man,
Speaker 2: like he didn't even feel me. Dude, what else we got?
Speaker 2: We got two more? I gotta get out of here minute.
Speaker 4: We'll work out routines.
Speaker 1: I mean that's probably usual, right scaled up? You just yeah,
Speaker 1: you just and then whenever you yeah, what else you want?
Speaker 2: What was what was that last question? Does David ever
Speaker 2: get cold?
Speaker 3: Never? I'm never cold?
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: Did more sweats and you can't say it was cold.
Speaker 2: It's freezing.
Speaker 1: You're the guy that would go like sleevers, sleeveless and
Speaker 1: shorts like every game, every game in the weather look
Speaker 1: good too.
Speaker 2: He had he had his wrist taped for what. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You look at him and go
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: I would do the workout with Keith before on the
Speaker 5: field and then I just wouldn't take him off.
Speaker 2: You'll be, you'll be, You'll be playing next year. But
Speaker 2: if there's ever a game, you need to have like
Speaker 2: a milk carton with you and just hold the milk
Speaker 2: cart and walk around just sucking.
Speaker 1: Drink right out of the milk carton and put tape
Speaker 1: over and write badge of milk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just drink badge of milk. They sell that.
Speaker 2: Maybe we can find out no free shout out, shout
Speaker 2: to padger of milk.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, that's a wrap, David.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that.