1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Cheers. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: Oh being bomb Hillo Hillo lo. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Hi hell Hello ankor. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: Rop oh okay. 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 4: Lemon lime cherry po. 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: She's sleeping. 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 4: Who's sleeping? 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: She's very very tired. 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: Oh good morning sweem. Then welcome to the Not Dungs 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 4: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Friday, May tenth, twenty 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 4: twenty four. This is the drop. I'm Jay skis here 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 4: in the Classic Factory and alongside me as always still 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: wearing a hat. 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We do good reviews 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 4: coming from you people. We're also going to discuss the 25 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: latest coaching carousel. Got one guy in, one guy out. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: We'll get to that, and we got rapid fire fun. 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: But we had two games on last night and we 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 4: now have two series. One one, let's start in the 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 4: Western Conference, because we had Luca scoring twenty nine as 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 4: the Mass top the Thunder one nineteen one ten, and 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: again tying up this series at one game apiece. Your thoughts. 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: This is why we watch the games, because after game one, 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: everybody said, well, this is okay, see series. They look great. 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: Luca does not look great. Then there was that report 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: that some of his teammates prefer when he goes to 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: the bench that they breathe a sigh of relief. And 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: if I'm Howard Beck and I get that from an 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 3: associate coach, I also publish that. But all that stuff 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Whatever happened in game one doesn't matter. There 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: are eight teams left and we are watching clearly one 41 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: of the eight best players in the league in Luca Docs. 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: And this wasn't a forty point game. This wasn't a 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: clear dominance by Luca, but it was Luca being that 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: guy where his role players and those guys coming off 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: the bench had to be good, and those were the 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: performances that really got them over the top. Obviously Tim Hardaway, 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 3: who ended this game very very surprising that he closed 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: this game Tim Hardaway and nobody knew that was coming. 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: Josh Green, who looked like Pat Conaton from the Milwaukee 50 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: Bucks when they won the twenty twenty one championship, with 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: those baseline cuts in those offensive rebounds, and a huge, 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: huge performance from PJ. Washington. 53 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: Hold on, let's start up the Chevy tracks. 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: Jason Kidd getting him involved in the post early really 55 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: changed the way their offense looked. That was really smart 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 3: instead of doing the classic thing with Luca and Kyrie 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: outside who Kyrie scored nine points, he had seven points 58 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: before garbage time, really before they had to go to 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: the intentional fouls. Just while that they got all those performances. Listen, okay, 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: say he was good. Okay say it was really good 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: in this arena with all the blue shirts. It was 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: really fun. Early in the fourth quarter when Jalen Williams 63 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: had that put back dunk, it's only a four point game, yeah, 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: And then Luca again looks like he gets hurt, gets 65 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: his ankle stepped on, he's hobbling, but the MAVs are 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: able to score again. He is still clearly not right. 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: I know he hit threes in this game, but he's 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: clearly hobbling around. So he has a twenty nine point 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: performance and they have a great game just because all 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: those role players. It looks like, you know that conference 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: finals team for these this Dallas Mavericks when they went 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: to the conference finals and all the role players played 73 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: well behind Luca. It is like like like that where, yeah, 74 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: maybe you don't think PJA watched it all that good. 75 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: I didn't at the trade headline or Daniel Gafford or 76 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway or Josh Green, but they get enough and 77 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: they do it. 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: But Luca really set the tone in this game after 79 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: his face bounced off the floor. His face set the tone. 80 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: He finished with twenty nine points, ten boards, seven assists, 81 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: eleven to twenty one from the field. But yeah, he's 82 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: got like this sprain right knee, it's got a bloody 83 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: left knee, and his face bounces off the floor early. 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: But he hit his first three shots. He scored eight 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 4: points there in the first three minutes. He hit sixteen 86 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: points at the end of the first quarter, six of 87 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: eight shooting. And then maybe because they changed up how 88 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: they were gonna gard him a little bit, it did 89 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: open up things for a lot of these other guys. 90 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: But he came out there. It was a desperate Mavericks 91 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 4: team and they played like it, like they had done 92 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 4: against the Clippers after losing that Game one. 93 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, Luca's only ever heard on defense. Soon as he 94 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 5: touches the ball, he heals immediately. And believe it or not, 95 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 5: but yeah, they came out. They were great. Twelve threes 96 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 5: in the first half for the Mavericks as well. I 97 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 5: thought Luca got the exact same shots he did as 98 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: he did in Game one. He just made these ones. 99 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 5: The dor Chert chamber was empty. He can't really guard 100 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 5: with Luca, but he can make it tough sometimes. And 101 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: then you get the support players hitting threes. Tim Hardaway 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 5: Junior having his best game at the playoffs so far. 103 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 5: You know, he was kind of out of the rotation 104 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 5: down the stretch for the Mavericks. He was hurt for 105 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 5: a little bit there, came back. He was really good. Obviously, PJ. 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 5: Washington was great. And yes, the Mavericks offense sometimes we forget. Yeah, 107 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 5: they're great. They second half of the season, once they 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 5: made the trades, the defense really kicked in. They became 109 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 5: a much more balanced team. But this is a team 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 5: that can put up points in a hurry. They only 111 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: got nine from Kyrie Irving, two for eight from the field. 112 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 5: But this is an incredible performance from this guy. He's 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 5: changed the way he's playing right now. We'll see him 114 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 5: score twenty points and a half in the first series 115 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 5: against the Clippers. But last night two for eight, Like 116 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 5: I said, but eleven assists for Kyrie Irving, pushing the pace, 117 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 5: getting off the ball really fast, and the defense is 118 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: incredible right now. Yeah, two steals, two blocks for Kyrie. 119 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 5: He's in everybody's shorts. He's ripping Chet Holmgren out on 120 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 5: the perimeter, taking it coast to coast for a layup. 121 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 5: Everybody on the MAVs team feels they can win this series. 122 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 5: They're completely bought in. They feel like they are a competitive, 123 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 5: championship quality team right now. And you could tell the 124 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 5: way they were playing last night, hitting eighteen threes. You 125 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 5: got Luca and Kyrie talking trash to fans sitting in 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 5: the stands for the Oklahoma City Thunder, and apparently Kyler 127 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: Murray as well, he was there. I guess he's a 128 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 5: Thunder fans and Oklahoma guy. I wouldn't necessarily want to 129 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 5: get either of those guys fired up. 130 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I know the eleven assists that Kyrie have, 131 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 4: I think five of them were two three point shooters. 132 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 4: He talked about like, yeah, the defense leading to offense, 133 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 4: him touching paint and then kicking out and everybody hitting them. 134 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: PJ Luca, Josh Green, and Tim Hardaway Junior combining for 135 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 4: seventeen to three pointers on twenty eight attempts sixty one 136 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 4: percent from deep. So yeah, that allows you to get 137 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: a victory on the road despite your other superstar and 138 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 4: Kyrie having a quiet game scoring the ball. He's just 139 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: doing everything. 140 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: Else super quiet. Yeah, and even the two steals and 141 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 3: the two blocks great on the box score, but it 142 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: doesn't do it justice how much he was working on 143 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: the perimeter, getting up into guys stealing awesome, Like these 144 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: passes from Giddy, he was just pushing okay So's offense 145 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: back who had a better shake Gial just Alexander in 146 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: this one, which is the shocking thing to say. Shae 147 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: was better thirty three points from him. He just looked 148 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: way more comfortable. I mean, he looked comfortable in Game one, 149 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: but he was scoring better in this one. And Jaylen 150 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: Williams also had a twenty point game. But yeah, the 151 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: mad role players fell in line, and I didn't know 152 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: what was gonna happen after Jason Kidd got the extension 153 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: and they had a bad game one, which Jason kids 154 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: teams always have a bad game one. But going to PJ. 155 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: Washington had to have helped Earl to just change the 156 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: way the geometry is for that team going into the 157 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: post and how the offense looked. And then he was 158 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: phenomenal obviously initting seven threes, but he got on a 159 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: roll and you just need you just need one guy 160 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: to help out those other two guys. But it is 161 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: it is crazy when you look at Kyrie's box score 162 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: to say, I mean he really had seven points before 163 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: he had two intentional free throws at the end. It 164 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: is phenomenal that they win this game. 165 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like even watching the game. You know, 166 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: they get off to the hot start. They can't miss threes. 167 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: You know, Luke is doing his thing early. He starts 168 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 4: to cool down though, but they have a nice, comfortable 169 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: lead and then man, the Thunder can get back in 170 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 4: the game in a hurry, and they did it like 171 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 4: twice really in this game. They did in the third quarter. 172 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 4: But the Mavericks hadn't answered. That was like the Tim 173 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: Hardaway Junior show there where he scored like ten points 174 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: in a minute and then you said a test after 175 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: the Jada dunk when he cleaned up. I guess it 176 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: was Wallace's missed layup attempt. You know, they're right back 177 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: in this game. The place is going crazy, and I'm 178 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 4: thinking again like oh no, man, like they're gonna they're 179 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: gonna win this game, like there's been a good Dallas 180 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: Mavericks game, but they haven't separated themselves enough. But then 181 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: they had an answer again. So really really impressive that 182 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: every time in that building where okay see was starting 183 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: to get stops and they were scoring, the Mavericks just 184 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: like you know, took it to another level and then 185 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: got the lead back and as it turned into like 186 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: a bit of an easy win in the end, I 187 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: forget who hit that corner three that really iced it. It 188 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: was that Tim. 189 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 5: Hard and. 190 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: Both hit him. Shay was good. 191 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 5: Only took six free throws though, so I think a 192 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 5: really good job by the Mavericks keeping him off the line. 193 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 5: He took what eleven in the first half of Game one, 194 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 5: only two in the second half, so MAV's are doing 195 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 5: a lot better job of defending without Foling, though he 196 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 5: did have thirty three, but a couple of straight up 197 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 5: botches from Shay. I thought in the fourth quarter of 198 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 5: this one that inbounds play where he like comes over 199 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 5: to talk to whoever standing underneath the basket, easy entry 200 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 5: to Washington for dark cut, and then he got put 201 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 5: under the basket for an end one as well in 202 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 5: the fourth quarter. The defense just wasn't nearly as good 203 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 5: for the Thunder. They forced fifteen turnovers in Game one, 204 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 5: only ten in this one, So the Mavericks really cleaned 205 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: up all of the lack of attention to detail that 206 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: they had in Game one. 207 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. Offensively, I mean, okay, see, he's generally 208 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: gonna be happy with one hundred and ten points because 209 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 4: in the five prior games in this postseason they gave 210 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 4: up ninety two, ninety two, eighty five, eighty nine, and 211 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 4: ninety five. So then Dallas explodes for one hundred and nineteen. 212 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: That's where the game was won and loss, and a 213 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 4: big part of it was, yeah, three point shooting. Everybody 214 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 4: was knocking them down. 215 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: One move that Mark Dagnot made going into the second 216 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: half was sitting Josh. Giddy didn't start start the second half, 217 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: And I know you went through every sequence in the 218 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: first game where Josh sat down and that's when okay, 219 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: see got hot. Do you think there's a possibility that 220 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: they sit Josh for Game three? 221 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: Yes, the start of the game. 222 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, they went on thirteen to four run when he 223 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 5: wasn't out there at the start of the third quarter. 224 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: He's not doing anything minus twenty last night. He's played 225 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 5: twenty eight minutes so far in this series. He's a 226 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 5: minus twenty seven. They don't guard him. 227 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: This is true. 228 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: He doesn't guard on the other end. It's not like 229 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 5: Giddy's bringing anything else. If he's not hitting wide open threes. 230 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 5: And even if they are, it's like, fine, we're gonna 231 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 5: live with him shooting. 232 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I do think he starts Game three. I do. 233 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: I hear all the problems with him because he's not 234 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: comfortable shooting the three ball. That's a problem. I do 235 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 3: think he comes back for a few reasons, just because 236 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: he's just because this team is young, and I don't 237 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 3: think you necessarily just want to throw that switch up 238 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 3: in the beginning of a game. He's also way better 239 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: at threes on the road some way, somehow, I don't 240 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: know how that happens. But in the first round he's 241 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: stunk at home shooting threes, and then he went on 242 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: into New Orleans four threes and four threes in games three, 243 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: in games four, and that's about it. 244 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: Like it's only okay seeing Mark Dagna. I've not done 245 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 4: this before either, Like at the start of the second 246 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: half they take a guy out of the starting lineup. 247 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: So it's not but Trey I mean you pointed out 248 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: after game one and wisely so because we saw it again, 249 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: they have played better when he's not out there. The 250 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: other part of it is Wigan. This is really good and 251 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: obviously gives you a lot of energy and can shoot, 252 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: so you got to, like, you know, stay a little 253 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 4: more honest with him. 254 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: He's smaller. That's the problem. He is a little bit smaller, 255 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: so the rebounding, which is a problem for the Okay, 256 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: see just the way there they're lined up. I mean, 257 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: Jalen Williams was the guy who came off the bench 258 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: warm at the beginning because he's big and that's what 259 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: they're looking at. So that's the small issue. If if 260 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: you play Aaron Wiggins, who does everything is just a 261 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: size thing as well. 262 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you think I don't stick with the starting 263 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: lineup for game three? 264 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: You think let's start him he can play fifteen minutes 265 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: in the game. 266 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: Well he couldn't last night. 267 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, he hasn't been able to play any minutes so 268 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: far in this series. 269 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, what like? 270 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 5: What what is Giddy bringing to the table for the 271 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 5: for the Thunder in this series? 272 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: Nothing except I mean Trey itasses. I guess the hope that, 273 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 4: like in the Pelican series, he finds his three point shot, 274 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: lets it go. Yeah that's it. But you maybe maybe 275 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 4: you make that decision early in game three? Yeah maybe, Yeah, 276 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: we'll see. 277 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so far not so good. Yeah, I mean he's 278 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: he should be able to push the ball a little bit, 279 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: but the mass we're doing really well. Getting back in defense, 280 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: he should be able to rebund like he can. He 281 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: had five boards in the first game. But I think 282 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: it's also just, hey, this is who we are, this 283 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: is what we did. I mean, yes, you could. 284 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 5: They've got a deep enough team that they don't. Yeah, 285 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: they've got so many guys that can play. Nobody plays 286 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 5: nine guys in the playoffs. Nobody does. They play eight, 287 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 5: maybe seven. Some teams play six. Yeah, he doesn't have 288 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 5: to be part of the ninth this time, right, maybe 289 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: the next series. 290 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's definitely not closing games, that's for sure. 291 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: They have enough guys to do that. I just think 292 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: it's keeping the old thing that got us here. But yeah, 293 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: he's playing less and that's we knew that, even even 294 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: the idea of Gordon Hayward at the beginning when they 295 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: made the trade. If he's good enough, he could be 296 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: the better Giddy. So yes, it's either Aaron Wiggins I 297 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: assume would be there. 298 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he's played well, He played hard, and he 299 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: seems to be giving him a lot more and fitting 300 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: better when he's out there than Gideon is for sure. 301 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 4: What do you think of Derek Lively's game in this one? 302 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: I thought offensively pretty horrendous. He was missing Bunny after 303 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 4: Bunny one to seven basically on all layup attempts, so 304 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: he just could not get that thing to drop inside. 305 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: Nearly injured his own guy there on a dunk attempt 306 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: Derek Jones Junior two. But as a rook I thought 307 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: he was really good on the other end, did a 308 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: good job boxing out. He only got credited, I guess 309 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 4: with one block in zero steels, but it felt like 310 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: he was altering more shots than that and sort of 311 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 4: like cutting off passing angles, just being a nuisance on 312 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 4: that floor. I thought he played really good and plus 313 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: eighteen shows that he was like obviously helping the team. Yeah. 314 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 5: I thought he was pretty bad in game one and 315 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 5: he was much better here. Yeah, in game two, him 316 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 5: and Daniel Gafford really took Chet out of the game. 317 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 5: Four turnovers for Chet, he didn't really seem to ever 318 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 5: get in a flow one for six from the three 319 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 5: point line, so he's not making it back in the 320 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 5: bet that the Thunder liked to talk about, where like, yeah, 321 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 5: we're gonna give up rebounds, but we're gonna hit threes. 322 00:13:59,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: On the other side. 323 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 5: Chat was just completely out of sorts, I thought in 324 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 5: this one, falling down a lot. You know, he just 325 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 5: just wasn't a great game for Chat. 326 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 4: He had the one cool play at the end of 327 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: the first quote that was awesome, great catch, great shot. 328 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 5: I was like Christian Latner to the max out there, 329 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 5: but he got crushed on the glass in this one. 330 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, his only three belongs in sports science. The way 331 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: he caught a sports and that was a sixty foot 332 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: bomb of a pass for a seven footer to catch it. 333 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, and that was his only three 334 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: of the games which did Yeah, it was and Gafford 335 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: hurt his hand, But yeah, we saw a different Derek 336 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: Lively in this game, that's for sure. And all the 337 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: role players just saw Luca be better and and started 338 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: to follow his lead. And that's what best players do 339 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: in this league is you know, we'll see the Boston 340 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 3: we'll talk about the Boston Celtics. When your leaders don't 341 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: play like that, it's hard to follow. Uh, it's that's 342 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: that's the recipe, that's for sure. Also another great play. 343 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: I mean we can go through a billion sports science plays, 344 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: but that Luca passed from it was like the sideline 345 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: to Derek Jones Junior for that alley. That was awesome too. 346 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: That was fairly long. I mean the airplane whatever you 347 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 3: call that guy that. I don't think Derek Johnes Jr. 348 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: Has a really good nickname. 349 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 4: They call him airplane. 350 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, airplane mode, airplane mode. 351 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 4: I guess that's here too. There's flight fifty man, guy 352 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: gets sore man. 353 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: It's awesome. That's good. She looks like he got. 354 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 5: Hurt in the second half too. Yeah, he came down. 355 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 5: He was limping back and forth, back and forth, and 356 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 5: then he caught another alleup. 357 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: So flight fifty five I think is his other nickname 358 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: he's got, Yeah, flight fifty five. Yeah, that's not bad anyway. 359 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: I just I can see a video obviously, you know, 360 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: make some sort of fun. 361 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: Luke also had like the soccer throw in lob earlier 362 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: in the game. I forget to who that one was too, 363 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: maybe to Gafford or Lively. You know, there's a couple 364 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: of lobs. Obviously, the MAVs were hitting threes and finding 365 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: the role guys and throwing it down. So good game, 366 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: great bounce back. I think a lot of people are excited. 367 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 4: This is one one we've thought this series would probably 368 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: be long. Looks like it's gonna head that way. I 369 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: don't think, like, you know, okay, see there's some issues 370 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: and we'll find out what they do with Gideon and 371 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: all that. But it wasn't like, oh, they got they 372 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: got destroyed, like what happened to them? No, not at all, 373 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: Like they were hanging around. I couldn't believe they're still 374 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: in the game. And again I thought they were gonna 375 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: like take this, but Dallas always when they got right 376 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: back into the game. Okay, see they just took control 377 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: again because there was that stretch there in the fourth quarter, 378 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: even the thunder hit one shot. I think it was 379 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: an SGA reverse layup. They went one for eleven in 380 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: like a four minute stretch, and that sort of like 381 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: was the game in the end. Any other notes from 382 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: thunder MAVs. I blew Nora's nine. I blew Nora's mind 383 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: last night when I told her, okay, get you get 384 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: your dirty thoughts out of your head there. I blew 385 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: her mind when I told her he'll be Brown as 386 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: ninety years old. 387 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought, maybe we don't make a 388 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: big enough deal out of this. No, I know, this 389 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: is crazy when you think about it. 390 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: He should be retired. 391 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: Why is he working because he's still good? 392 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: I am no good. 393 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: I know when Richard Ditsch posted that article about Hubey 394 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: Brown being ninety two, right, is he ninety two? 395 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: He's ninety He turns ninety one and September. 396 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: But I don't know why I think he's turning ninety 397 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: ninety two. 398 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 4: I agree. I thought it was that old last night too. 399 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: He's been doing the broadcasting for forty years. 400 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: Right, he's seen everything. 401 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: He gone back and coached every now and then, he's 402 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 5: seen every NBA season. 403 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: Oh that's good. 404 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: It's amazing. Yeah, And like is he knows what looked like? 405 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like Bob Pettitt. People forget 406 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: he was a bucket people. Literally, I believe you. It's crazy, 407 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: Like I don't know, he's like traveling around. 408 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: He's staying up late, like this is late for me 409 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 4: watching these games, and this standard what like twelve thirty 410 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 4: Eastern time, that's eleven thirty Central. 411 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: It's amazing. 412 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: You want sports science, sports science, Huby brown Man, what 413 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: is going on with this guy? 414 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? I know, I know. When I saw that article, 415 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: I honestly he didn't believe it. I thought, wow, this 416 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: is amazing, this is phenomenal stuff. You said you blew 417 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: noris mind. I thought you were the one with the 418 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: the audio of that video, Luca Dona, What's what was 419 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: going on? 420 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 4: Was your somebody pumping in porn? 421 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: Sure sounds like it's a very funny. 422 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 5: I can get get kicked out of Oklahoma. I think, 423 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 5: get out all. 424 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: Right, let's keep it going here, let's go to the 425 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: first game from last night. The shocking result. Maybe maybe 426 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 4: not because the Celtics level playoff stinker, but Donovan Mitchell 427 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: twenty nine points to help the Calves blow out the 428 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 4: Celtics one eighteen ninety four. Trey quiet first half from 429 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell, six shots, six points, but then to quote him, 430 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: when it was time to go, it was time to 431 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: go off sixteen points in the third quarter, three straight. 432 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 5: Baskets to start. It was like Chao peckt. 433 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 3: Him to go. 434 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: Like he picked it up there in the third corner. 435 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 5: The floodgates opened in a third quarter there Mitchell was 436 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 5: killing them. And pick and roll they had. The Celtics 437 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 5: had no possible coverage that would work on Donovan Mitchell, 438 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 5: I thought in the second half, and I thought it 439 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 5: was pretty smart the way Cleveland played things the entire night. 440 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 5: They crushed inside in the first half. Thirty six of 441 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 5: their sixty points in the paint came in the first half. 442 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 5: Then they opened things up in the second half, especially 443 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 5: in the third quarter. They hit seven threes, and I 444 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 5: thought Mitchell was a huge part of that. It was like, 445 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 5: if they're playing a soft drop coverage, I'm pulling up 446 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 5: hitting the three in your face. If you're gonna try 447 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 5: and trap me, we can find somebody and move the ball. 448 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 5: If you're gonna give me a driving lane, I'm gonna 449 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 5: get to the hoop and create an incredible shot inside. 450 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 5: He had that awesome crossover on Jalen Brown coming up 451 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: the left wing that he like euros around Al Horford 452 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 5: to finish at the hoop. Mitchell has a great playoff player. 453 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 5: He's a guy that is happy to take on all 454 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: of the responsibility of handling the ball. I just thought 455 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: he was phenomenal in this game. And then on the 456 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 5: flip side, the Cat's played pretty so defense, really limiting 457 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 5: the Celtics three point attempts. They gave up forty six 458 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 5: looks at three in Game one, only thirty five in 459 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 5: Game two, and it just felt like they were selling 460 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 5: out to run the Celtics off the three point line. 461 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 5: Say take any two pointer you want, we will live 462 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 5: with that. Then the three pointers of the Celtics actually 463 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 5: did get eight for thirty five. I think it's their 464 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 5: second worst shooting night of the season. 465 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, And this is a team that led 466 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: the league in makes from deep attempts, finished second overall. 467 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 4: In percentage, like this is their offensive weapon, the Celtics, 468 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 4: the three point shot. If you can take that away, 469 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: if you can limit it attempts and obviously makes, if 470 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: you can have a part in that as well, then 471 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 4: you have a good chance to beat them, because eight 472 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: for thirty five is generally not going to cut it 473 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 4: in a postseason game, not when the other team's doing 474 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: a bit better. 475 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: No, it is not going to do it. I do 476 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: think they just weren't attacking as much. They're sort of 477 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: just looking for mismatches instead of going going going like 478 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: what comes first the attack or looking for mismatches, and 479 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: so they look for mismatches and they just kind of 480 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: slows down instead of attacking everything because everything is almost 481 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: a mismatch in this matchup, and you do that and 482 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: then it trickles down. It's a trickle down effect to 483 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: the three point makes. I do think the second half 484 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: was won by twenty four points for the Calves, and 485 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: it was eight more threes made. So it's the math 486 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 3: eight times three, I mean, that's what happened. They made 487 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: ten at Boston May two, So was it just math 488 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: or was it just Boston not running their offense quicker 489 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 3: and getting more into it being the old Boston team 490 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 3: that you say every year, Tray, Boston's not gonna win 491 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: in a game in this series just because they're going 492 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: to be Boston. And I think that's what it was. 493 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: I mean, they kind of felt like. 494 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 5: Like everybody picked Celtics in five, right, Yeah, because everybody 495 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 5: thought this game would happen. Yes, and it always happens, 496 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 5: and one of them always happened. 497 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 4: One of them does, and you're gonna win the next three, 498 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: no problem. 499 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 3: Probably. Yeah, It's what Steve Crer used to say. It's said, 500 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: you win game one, game two, is that team that 501 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: the road team can take because you. 502 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: Kind of get a little flat. 503 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what they were. And so yes, the 504 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 3: Calves the Caves definitely played better. They sensed it, especially 505 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: going into the locker room. Oh crap, we're playing we're 506 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: playing good, but the other team, but the Boston Celtics 507 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: should have should have been feeling in the other locker room. Damn, 508 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: that team is going to come out and play hard, 509 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 3: right right they did not. 510 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: We can basically put the series away in the second 511 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 4: half here. Yeah, you know, is to some extent because 512 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: we're so much better. 513 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, or in the first I mean they started fine, 514 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: but they weren't playing the same way. The defensive flubs 515 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: that they had over and over and over again, where 516 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: they miscommunicated, where they weren't taking the guy who's starting 517 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: the pick and roll or rolling, I mean they were 518 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: brain farts. It felt like, and this is a championship team. 519 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: I say championship, they haven't won one yet. And after 520 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: this you kind of feel like, is it going to 521 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: be the team and like they went to the finals 522 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: and all that. I don't know. It sure feels like 523 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a five game series and then they'll 524 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: be in the conference. 525 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: I almost talked myself into Celtics and six because I 526 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: think the way Mitchell has proven that he's the best 527 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: player right now in this series, and you know, he 528 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 4: had a good game, but he probably still has a 529 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 4: better game even in him maybe at home, maybe not. 530 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: I'm leaning more towards Celtics and six. I think they're 531 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: gonna win this thing like everybody else. But this was bad. 532 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: Evan Mobley best playoff game of his career. I don't 533 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 4: think that's a stretch to say. Twenty one points, ten boards, 534 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: five assists, two blocks, nine to fifteen shooting. He was 535 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: a big part of tray. Like he said, all those 536 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 4: points in the paint, that's where a lot of his 537 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: were coming. Though he did hit a three at the 538 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: top of the break there. He was just great. He 539 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 4: was looking at the rim like like we were saying 540 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 4: in Game one, like you're getting it man, Like you're tall, 541 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 4: you're lanky. I mean, you're faster than when Al Horford's 542 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: on you. Sorry, he's a great defender, but you should 543 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: be able to use your athleticism and speed a little bit. 544 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: And I just thought he played a great, great game 545 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: and was a big part. So was carosel Vert. So 546 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 4: Garland played better. Yeah, they their main four guys, like 547 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 4: they maybe had the four best players last night. Yeah, 548 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 4: overall in the game. 549 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: And guys like Mobley got better as the game went 550 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 3: on because Boston had a brain fart in the beginning. 551 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: I just think that you know, they weren't asserting themselves, 552 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: so you know the casts can sense. I mean, they 553 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: felt a lot better in this game. Thoughts on Derek White, 554 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: who you guys compared to Ray Allen after the Game one? 555 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: Given the old jinx on that one, didn't we I don't. 556 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: Know Ray's done this before. That's right. 557 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: All the great shooters have some rough nights. 558 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he went from seven of twelve in game 559 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: one to one of eight in game two. I went 560 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: through the Ray Allen stats. He's done this before. In 561 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: the playoffs against the Lakers in the finals, he had 562 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: an eight of eleven. It was a great game. Eleven 563 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: of twenty from the floor, eight of eleven from three. 564 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: Then the next game didn't hit a three, oh of 565 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: eight and oh of thirteen from the floor. 566 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: Oh crap. 567 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, remember that one that we we do remember we 568 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 3: were talking something wrong with Ray Allen in the finals 569 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 3: against the Lakers that year. It was a fun finals, 570 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: although you know Lakers won it. But even still, there's 571 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: lots of I went through all his stats. There's there's 572 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: some offers where he falls it up with a good one. 573 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: So maybe game through will be good. U Ray does this, 574 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 3: he can still be Ray. 575 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 4: Okay, there's a little tongue in cheek that Derek White 576 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: is Ray Allen. 577 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 5: But yes, point taken eight for twenty to start the series. 578 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 5: That's forty percent. 579 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: Still lights out numbers. Yeah, but they did not have 580 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: a good game, of course, Derek White, I thought Drew 581 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: Holliday was sort of non existent in this one as well. 582 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 4: And Tatum. Let's talk Tatum here a little bit. He's quiet. 583 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: He is not doing a whole lot offensively scoring the ball. 584 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 4: In the postseason. He's averaging under twenty two points. His 585 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 4: splits are basically forty, twenty seven and eighty one. You 586 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: don't love to see the forty there. You don't love 587 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: to see under thirty from deep. He has only shot 588 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: fifty percent or better one time in this postseason so far. 589 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 4: He's leading the team in rebounds, he's leading the team assists, 590 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 4: he's leading the team in blocks. I believe he's doing 591 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 4: all the other things. But you're I mean, I'm gonna 592 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 4: want to see a Tatum sort of breakout here. I 593 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 4: think at so maybe not in this series, maybe it 594 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: won't even have to happen, but obviously moving forward, that's 595 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 4: going to happen. What are you seeing from Tatum so far? 596 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 5: He's getting locked down by Max Strewce. Max Strews is 597 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 5: playing really solid defense. Nothing is coming easy for Jason Tatum. 598 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 5: He did go to the free throw line eleven times. 599 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: Love to see that because one of the biggest criticisms 600 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 5: for Tatum is he just wants to take a step 601 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: back three and he does just want to take a 602 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 5: step back three for the most part, or a weird fallaway. 603 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: They just need him inside. The guy six foot ten, 604 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 5: he should be inside trying to score on Max Strews. 605 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 5: And I assume that will happen going forward because the 606 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 5: Celtics will just give a better effort. Man Like, this 607 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 5: was the exact same game as Game two against the Heat. 608 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 5: It was the exact same but guess what, Donovan Mitchell 609 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 5: is Tyler Hero in this one. Tyler Hero had an 610 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 5: awesome game too. He didn't do anything the rest of 611 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 5: the series after that. Mitchell's a way better player. But 612 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 5: the Celtics just need to lock in and they need 613 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 5: to shoot better than twenty three percent from three. 614 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 3: It was just an odd game from the Celtics. I 615 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: guess it's not that odd. It is similar to the 616 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: Miami Heat, but it was odd seeing some things like 617 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum. You remind me of a third quarter play 618 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: where Evan Mobley comes out to him, so he's got 619 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: the quick advantage. He goes right by him, gets to 620 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: the rim, and then just kind of stops. It looked 621 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: like an awkward release. He I guess thought that Evan 622 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: Mobley was right behind him, but he just let go 623 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: of the ball and missed and there was no reason 624 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: to miss. And then somehow this Calves just because they 625 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: have this confidence coor goes the other way dunk. Next possession, 626 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: Jalen Brown gets Evan Mobley in the exact same position. 627 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: He has the quick advantage. He went right by him 628 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: and instead of going to the whop, he kind of 629 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: just jumped in the air to get contact from Evan 630 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: Mobley missed the shot. It was just and then the 631 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: Calves pushed again because they have the confident MOBILEI aluop. 632 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: He just didn't look like a very good basketball started watching. 633 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: That's the thing. When you catch the Celtics on the 634 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 4: wrong night, you're like, what hell the hell is this 635 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: a championship contender. You're like, they look nothing like it 636 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 4: when you see these games, and they have these weird 637 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: duds in a lot of their series, you know, going 638 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: back seasons now, with this sort of core the J's 639 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 4: as their lead guy, it happens. But they got to 640 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 4: win four out of the seven, and they more times 641 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 4: than not do in most of the series. So yeah, 642 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: they will. I'm sure look a lot better there in 643 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 4: Game three on Saturday. Yeah, Saturday. 644 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 5: And the Celtics like to lose at home fourteen and 645 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 5: fourteen in their last twenty eight playoff games in Boston 646 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 5: over the last three seasons. 647 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 3: Bonkers. 648 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's weird. Also a wild stat I saw the 649 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: Cavaliers twenty four point margin was the largest playoff win 650 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: by a double digit underdog since nineteen ninety one, So 651 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 4: they're coming in as a huge dog in this game. 652 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: Everybody expecting the Celtics to roll once again, and they 653 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 4: win by twenty four and apparently that hasn't been done 654 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: since nineteen ninety one. Thanks the ESPN stats an Info 655 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 4: for that one. Any other notes on Celtics Cavs No, okay, 656 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 4: let's get to some new Like Porzingis's jacket. I mean 657 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 4: I do like the jacket. 658 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a team missued jacket. Everybody on the Celtics 659 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 5: has one of those green bombers. 660 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: That's interesting. I mean I think you could ask for one. 661 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 5: He bought that the team shop. I guess I'm out 662 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 5: I need some fits Sideline. 663 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: It's a puzzling yea jacket you don't usually see team stuff, ejaculate. 664 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good point, all right. We had some 665 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: news yesterday. The Phoenix Suns fired head coach Frank Vogel 666 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: eleven days after the team was swept out of the 667 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: postseason's first round by the Wolves. Quote. After a thoughtful 668 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: review of the season, we concluded that we needed a 669 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: different head coach for our team. It's his son's GM, 670 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: James Jones saying in a statement, we appreciate Frank's hard 671 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: work and commitment. See you Leadank, after a thoughtful review 672 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: of the season, very thoughtful. Eleven days. Is that thoughtful enough? 673 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: Yes days? Because it was seven days ago. We talked 674 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: about Matt Ishbia's press conference. 675 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 4: That's right, and that came a couple of days after 676 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: they had bounced. 677 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: That was seven and he said the fire, sorry, the 678 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: house is not fire. Ask twenty six teams around the league. 679 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: They would want our roster, but I guess they wouldn't 680 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 3: want ours. 681 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 4: They wouldnt want our coach. 682 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: Yah. 683 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we can't do anything with our roster. Basically, 684 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: let's be really blow it up. So Frank Vogel is 685 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: the fall guy. This is not a surprise, TK. You 686 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: thought this would happen. And a lot of people did, 687 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: and now it's where do they go from here? I 688 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 4: guess Mike Budenholzer is the is the guy they're maybe 689 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: eyeing most. It seems to be at the top of 690 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 4: their their wants when it comes to a coach. What 691 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: do you think? 692 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Actually, Shaan's is reporting just now the Phoenix Suns 693 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 5: planned to hire Mike Buten their head coach on a 694 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 5: deal expected to approach eight figures per year. He's also 695 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 5: a whole Brook Arizona native. 696 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 4: Okay, where's that? 697 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 5: I don't know, Probably buy Phoenix Wholebrook. But yeah, shout 698 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 5: out to Ryan Gossling. Somebody's got to be the fall guy, 699 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 5: that's right, And it's Frank in this one because where 700 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 5: they're smoked, their's fire. Like literally, as soon as the 701 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 5: Suns were swept out of the playoffs, it was rumblings 702 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 5: that there was discontent, that they weren't happy, that they 703 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 5: were laughing at him for trying to get angry, that 704 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 5: they're rolling their at him, and he said, I want 705 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 5: to point guard, the saying we got us, you don't 706 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 5: need a point guard. So now they're bringing in Mike Budenholzer, 707 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: which is very strange to me. Because I saw Doug 708 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 5: Holler writing for The Athletic. He said Vogel didn't have 709 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 5: much of a chance. He was a defensive minded coach 710 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 5: with an offensive minded roster. Roster's the same. Yeah, I 711 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 5: remember Mike Budenholzer as a coach. Wasn't that long ago. 712 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 5: He was known as a defensive minded head coach. So 713 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 5: I don't know what they're gonna change. 714 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: Here, right, Yeah, I wonder what they're gonna do with 715 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: the roster because Vogel is, Yeah, he's just he's taking 716 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: one for the team here, taken one for the franchise 717 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: because what else was he supposed to do? For what 718 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: did he not do? And I think according to all reports, 719 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: he just didn't have the locker room. As you said. Yeah, 720 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 3: maybe he wasn't vocal enough. It wasn't Frank vocal enough. 721 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: He just didn't have the locker room altogether. And when 722 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: you bring up Budenholzer, doesn't seem to be a characteristic 723 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: of that guy. 724 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems really similar to the two guys. I'm 725 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: with you. 726 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 3: So he just took it. I mean, yes, they don't 727 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: have a defensive roster. They had Josha Kogi. They win 728 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: got Royce O'Neill. Okay, they were a mediocre defensive team. 729 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: That's exactly what they should be. They don't have a 730 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: point guard. Their point guard didn't play until twenty twenty four. Really, 731 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: most most of the time was in twenty twenty four 732 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: for Bradley Beal, so they started it a little solely. 733 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: But the team was a top ten offense. 734 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: That's not bad, no, I don't think, but it wasn't good. 735 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: They were garbage in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that was 736 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: always perplexing. Sure, with that much talent, it's like, weren't 737 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: they the worst? 738 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: Well, the Timberwolves were teams. The Timberwolves, who might be 739 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: the freaking NBA champions, were also very bad in the 740 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Fair enough, This team was twenty seven to 741 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: twenty two against plus five hundred teams. That's pretty freaking good. 742 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, they won forty nine games in a season where 743 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: there was a lot of guys in and out and 744 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 4: they didn't have a lot of consistency with their big three. 745 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: I mean, look, he's definitely the fall guy for sure. 746 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 4: He's not a bad coach. I'm not going to cry 747 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: too much for him. I think he's still got about 748 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: twenty five million dollars coming his way. He signed a 749 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 4: five year thirty one million dollars. He's only there one year, 750 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: so you know, do the math. He's good, He's okay. 751 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, well it's up to Durant and 752 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: Booker and obviously Beale, Like they make it seem like 753 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter who's coaching us. I mean that's sort 754 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 4: of their approach. That's been sort of Durant's m definitely, Well, 755 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 4: maybe it does, first off, because you haven't had a 756 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: lot of success without you know, Steve Kerr and Steph 757 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 4: Curry and that team. But he's gone through a lot 758 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: of coaches, is my point here, Like this is a 759 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 4: lot of coaches for Kevin Durant in a very short window. 760 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: This will be his fifth coach in two years. I 761 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: think I have that right. It probably eventually will be. 762 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they went into the playoffs and absolutely stuck. 763 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: They didn't have leadership throughout the roster, So you'd think 764 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: that you need a really, really vocal coach, like somebody 765 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: who runs that roster because it's. 766 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 4: I would really love Tyloo probably, yeah, someone to hold 767 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: them a little more accountable and maybe someone that they 768 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 4: actually respect or whatever. 769 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: Because they will respect. Yeah, well, they really have to 770 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: change the roster, and it's going to be extremely difficult 771 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: because they can't just bunch guys together because they're into 772 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: the second apron. They can't put more than one guy 773 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 3: in a trade. They can't aggregate those numbers together. So 774 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: they got to trade one guy for a really good 775 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: defensive guy, like a top shelf defensive guy to be 776 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: in their starting lineup to join those big three, or 777 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 3: a great rim blocker, like a shot blocker I guess, 778 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: or rim deterrent type of guy, like they need somebody 779 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 3: like that. 780 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: It's hard to get that. It's gonna be hard. 781 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 5: Traden, Grayson Allen, he was awesome for you this year 782 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: trading use of Nurkic. He was about the healthiest he's 783 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 5: been in his career in this series all right, in 784 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 5: this season. 785 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 4: So I don't know. 786 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 5: I do think that the Suns will probably win more 787 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 5: games in the regular season next year. Mike Budenhaser wins 788 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 5: in the regular season, right like he had a sixty 789 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 5: win season with the Hawks, had a sixty win season 790 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 5: with the Bucks. Both of those teams were the number 791 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 5: one team in their conference at certain points, So getting 792 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 5: a home court advantage I think is in the mix 793 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 5: perhaps for Phoenix, depending on the health of their guys, 794 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 5: But it be a question mark come playoff time, and 795 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 5: it'll come down to Ken Durant and Booker hit contested 796 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 5: twos and can they make enough threes. 797 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 4: That's a big thing. 798 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 5: Budenholzer has to convince those guys to shoot more three pointers. 799 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 5: Kevin Durant should take ten threes a game, yeah, probably, 800 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 5: but he's also like eighteen years into his career, so 801 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 5: good luck changing him. 802 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: It'll be tough. I do love that if Budenholzer gets 803 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: this job. Sounds like he's going to. We have ten 804 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 4: active head coaches that have won championships. So it's Pop, 805 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 4: it's Kerr, It's Spoe, Nick Nurse, Michael Malone, Rick Carlisle, 806 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 4: Doc Rivers, Tyloo, all those guys for now employed. Vogel 807 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: had a championship yes, with the Lakers in the bubble, 808 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: and that left Bud as the really the only championship 809 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 4: winner left on the board. But now he's slotted in 810 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 4: there too, into Phoenix, so they have who else is 811 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 4: hanging out? Yeah, so they have a you know, they 812 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 4: have a type here. They went with Vogel. Yeah, championship. Okay, 813 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 4: that didn't work. Well, Bud's left. We can't get Tyleru yet, 814 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 4: so we'll go with Bud til Jackson. That one down right, 815 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: right right. So now, if Boonenholder is taking this job, 816 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 4: there's only two spots left in the NBA because the 817 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 4: Hornets have their guy, which we can talk about in 818 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 4: a second. The Wizards and the Lakers are the only 819 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 4: two teams looking for a coach if Budenholzer is going 820 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 4: to Phoenix. 821 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 5: So probably in different markets. 822 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 4: I'm guessing the coach they're looking at them, yes, yeah, 823 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 4: probably probably all right, So the Boston Celtics lead assistant 824 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 4: coach Charles Lee has agreed on a four year contract 825 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 4: to become the head coach of the Charlotte Hornets. Lee 826 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 4: will complete the Celtics playoff run, of course, before moving 827 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: over to join the Hornets on a full time basis. 828 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 4: Charles Lee an assistant name we have seen three years 829 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 4: whenever there's a coaching vacancy, Charles Lee's name is on 830 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: that list more times than not. If I was gonna 831 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 4: get an opportunity here in Charlotte, four year deal. 832 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 3: And going back even further, he was Mike Budenholzer's assistant coach, 833 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 3: and going back even further, I had no idea about this, 834 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: but he played college ball at Bucknell and then he 835 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: went and played abroad a little bit, but he tried 836 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 3: to make it with the San Antonio Spurts, tried to play. 837 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: Mike Budenholzer was an assistant on on that bench for 838 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: a training campaign. He saw he saw Charleslee play plays basketball. 839 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 4: He's like, you're not good enough to play basketball, but man, 840 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 4: you can coach. 841 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 3: Well, he left and he came back. Yeah, and then 842 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 3: he was under Budenholzer's wing for nine years with both 843 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 3: the Atlanta Hawks and the Milwaukee Bucks. So good luck, 844 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 3: good luck to Charles Lee in a tough situation, I 845 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 3: would say with Charlotte like tough, tough, I. 846 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 4: Mean, he's gonna have a bit of a runway. You 847 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 4: would think you got Hugh ownership ownership in there. You 848 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 4: got new president of basketball operations Jeff Peterson, who you know, 849 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 4: leads this sort of team, who they have a relationship. 850 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 4: By the way, him and Lee with the with the Hawks, 851 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 4: actually they were together there. So there's that that makes 852 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 4: some sense. 853 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 3: You better get a runway guy. Nobody has a runway 854 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 3: it feels like in the NBA right now, But some 855 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: teams do allow their coach to get that, and like 856 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 3: Steve Ifford left this season, there was that one quote 857 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: that Steve Clifford said, we don't have the talent that 858 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: the other team has. That's why we lost. And so 859 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: they they you know, yes, I know a lot of 860 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 3: guys are hurt, obviously LaMelo, but the locker room ain't 861 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: bubbling with goodness, that's for sure. 862 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 4: No, no, no, but look they're twenty one and sixty one. 863 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 4: They're going to very likely have a top pick here 864 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 4: in the draft. Again, you want LaMelo Ball to be healthy. 865 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 4: You obviously got to be excited to what you saw 866 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 4: from Brandon Miller. You do have other players that you 867 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: could talk yourself into being like contributors like Mark Williams 868 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So you got something. But yeah, 869 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 4: I mean it's going to be Hopefully he's given two 870 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 4: or three years to put an identity in here and 871 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 4: given a chance at least I think he will. 872 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 5: I think he will hiring an assistant to me shouts 873 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 5: we're developing right now. They're not trying to win, so 874 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 5: I think he'll have a little bit of a runway 875 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 5: as well, especially considering the relationships he has. Like you mentioned, 876 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 5: he was an assistant with the Bucks on Bodenholzer's staff 877 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 5: when Jeff Peterson was there, and as an executive sorry 878 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 5: on the Hawks staff. And Rick Schnall, an owner for 879 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 5: the Hornets, was a minority owner for the Hawks as well. 880 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 5: So clearly they like this guy. Yeah, they'll give him 881 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 5: a chance here. Next thing the Suns or the Hornets 882 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 5: need to do spend a lot of money on a 883 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 5: training staff. You have to have LaMelo Ball healthy. The 884 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 5: guy can't be going out with an ankle injury every 885 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 5: two months. He has to be on the court next 886 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 5: season to see if him and Brandon Miller fit well together. 887 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 5: And then the big thing for Charles Lee is the 888 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 5: Hornets need some sort of an identity, like they got 889 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 5: to be a fast paced offensive team or a team 890 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 5: that cares even a little bit on defense. They got 891 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 5: to have something to hang their hat on. Even if 892 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 5: they win twenty five games next season, you can have 893 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 5: a solid twenty five games twenty five win season if 894 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 5: you look like a competent team that knows what their 895 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 5: approach is going forward. So we'll see what Charles Lee 896 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 5: is cooking up. Because the guy's been in the mix. 897 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 5: There are a lot of approaching jobs here, so you 898 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 5: think he must have some sort of plans he wants 899 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 5: to implement. 900 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he almost got the Wizard's job in twenty twenty one. 901 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 4: I think he was a finalist for that gig, but 902 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 4: didn't get it ultimately and got overlooked a lot of times. 903 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 4: But he gets a chance here in Charlotte. In other news, 904 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 4: the NBA has suspended Bucks guard Patrick Beverly four games 905 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 4: without pay for throwing a basketball multiple times at Pacers 906 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 4: fans in the final minutes of Milwaukee's Game six elimination 907 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 4: loss to Indiana and after the game for inappropriate inappropriate 908 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 4: interaction with a reporter there from ESPN during media availability. 909 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 4: Four games for Pat bev for you know, sort of 910 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 4: for all of this, for what he did at the 911 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 4: end of the game with throwing the ball of fans, 912 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 4: and then how he just like so rudely interacted with 913 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 4: ESPN producer Melinda at Adams. Are you surprised at all 914 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 4: or thought it would be more severe than us or what? 915 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. We brought up as soon as it 916 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 3: happened and thought he is going to get suspended. I 917 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 3: think the other lock here is that he's not coming 918 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 3: back with the Milwaukee Bucks. That ain't gonna happen, even 919 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: even though from week to week we thought Patrick Beverly 920 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 3: is good for this if they need a defensive point guard, 921 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 3: they need attitude, but they don't need this. And apparently 922 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,959 Speaker 3: somehow Indianapolis Police is investigating this as well. I don't 923 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 3: know what that means exactly, because we saw what happened. 924 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 3: It's clear he just threw a ball twice. 925 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 4: Is someone filing charges against them? I mean, that's the 926 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 4: only thing I could think of. 927 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 3: The look into Yeah, why they would look into it, 928 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think they did that. I'm interested. 929 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 3: I'm there, and I don't know what's happening there. I 930 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: have no idea. Four games is that the right amount? 931 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 3: I guess it is the right amount. And it's definitely 932 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 3: a reputation based suspension as well. It's just Beverly. 933 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 4: What happens if he doesn't play. 934 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 5: It's definitely possible that Patrick Beverly's done. 935 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 936 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 4: He's been on five teams in the past. 937 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 5: Three se Yeah, and every team that has him is like, oh, 938 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 5: you know, we can do it a little better. 939 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,439 Speaker 4: So okay, if we could get another if he's done, 940 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 4: like he doesn't have to, well, I guess the league's 941 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 4: not getting there her money, right, great question, he's not 942 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 4: getting his money because he wouldn't have a contract. Okay, yeah, 943 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: probably nothing happens. But and just with the whole postgame 944 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 4: media scrum thing, this was Beverly saying, you know, I'm 945 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 4: not taking your questions. Do you subscribe to my podcast? No, 946 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 4: then get out of here. Basically h said, get the 947 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 4: microphone out of my face and eventually asked her to 948 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 4: leave the interview circle. It's very weird apparently there before 949 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 4: It's like is he joking? Like is this just like 950 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 4: is he trying to be funny? Stupid? It's weird. He 951 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: did apologize to Adams. She you know tweeted this and 952 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 4: said that he called and apologized for it. But if 953 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 4: he does sign, because he is an unrestricted free agent 954 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 4: this summer, it would cost him about ninety thousand dollars 955 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 4: if he signs on the you know, the minimum contract, 956 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 4: which is like three point three million, are projected to 957 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 4: be a sick minimum. 958 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 3: The minimum has changed since we started doing the show. 959 00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 4: I don't. 960 00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: I don't. 961 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 4: I'm seen his podcast numbers, but I'll go in on 962 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 4: a limb and say he's not making three point three 963 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 4: million off the pod. 964 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 5: He could make ninety k though. 965 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I believe that. 966 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 3: I guess he maybe knew that this is his last 967 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 3: basketball game in the NBA and said, I get my 968 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 3: numbers up, I'm going to get a story going about 969 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: my podcast. I get there's a possibility. 970 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 4: He's been suspended before between summers. He oh is that 971 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 4: this is the second time this has happened to him. 972 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 4: Not not for throwing a ball or anything like that, 973 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 4: but he missed something. He missed a game at the 974 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 4: start of a season, and I can't tell you which team. 975 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 3: It was or what happened, but it was diving into 976 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook's knee. 977 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 4: He was getting into it with somebody, Chris Paul. Did 978 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 4: you get into Chris Paul at the end of a 979 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 4: of a playoff game or an end of a series 980 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 4: or something there. I'm ninety nine percent sure this is 981 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 4: the second time. If he is on a on a roster, 982 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 4: he won't be starting the season with that team. Plus 983 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 4: five points to you though, for the Instigator Draft, I 984 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 4: had forgot. That's right by I had. That's really something 985 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 4: of a technicality this one visited. 986 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 3: I was, I was wondering, so I went into the 987 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 3: stats yesterday. I mean, if you do get the five spots, you. 988 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 4: Gotta give it to me. It happened during the game. 989 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 4: Did like the throwing of the ball. 990 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 3: You think you think the Business News Network should get 991 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 3: five points for that? That's your team name Beverly, Niang 992 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: and Nurkic. Those are your guys that would make give 993 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 3: you seven points. You would get the lead because I 994 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 3: went into mine because Tatum had a flagrant last night 995 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 3: that he got charged with and he got hit with, 996 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 3: so one point for me. That's the Teapot exchange. That's 997 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 3: my team, Tatum Portis and Edwards, Anthony Edwards. They had 998 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 3: a tech rescinded. So I took that point off off 999 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 3: my roster. And I think your team, the Dog's gone wild. 1000 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 3: That's a good team. Don't go barn Wagner. Just two points, 1001 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 3: I think technical so far? All right, so you would 1002 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 3: be you would have seven. 1003 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 4: Counting the Beverly suspension. 1004 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 3: I would have five. That's we got a race, and 1005 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 3: then just two right now for Trey. 1006 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 4: But he's got guys left, got guys left. I mean 1007 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 4: I'm starting to my guys are dropping, like five. I 1008 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 4: guess I got niang. 1009 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:13,959 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's. 1010 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 4: He did. Point all right, keep us updated on that. 1011 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 4: I'd totally forgotten about that. I didn't even know if 1012 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 4: it counted because it was like a weird one. Uh, 1013 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 4: final piece of news, bad news here for Knicks fans. 1014 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 4: Og Ananobi he will miss Game three to night of 1015 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 4: the second round playoff series against the Pacers with that 1016 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 4: left hamstring strain. The Knicks have not announced the timetable 1017 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 4: for his return, so it's not like, uh, he'll be 1018 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 4: back later in the series, he'll be back even this postseason, 1019 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 4: we don't know. Uh. Obviously a tough loss because when 1020 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 4: og plays, the Knicks are twenty six and five since 1021 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 4: they got him from the Raptors on December thirtieth. But 1022 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 4: he's officially out, and Brunton I think is questionable. My 1023 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 4: gud says that guy plays. But right, you after game 1024 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 4: two and after those two first games in Madison Square Guarden, 1025 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 4: you say, hey, lookay, Pacers are still in this. This 1026 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 4: is gonna be a series, and this helps their chances. 1027 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 4: Of course, tonight Pacers are winning this game. 1028 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt. With the way the 1029 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 3: Knicks roster is breaking down right now, guy after guy 1030 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 3: after guy. They have won their every game that they've 1031 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 3: played at home this postseason. They do have great hometown teams. 1032 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 3: They are moving the ball like crazy. Obviously they led 1033 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 3: the league and passes this year the league, the league 1034 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: and passes in the playoffs. Everybody's getting involved, and I 1035 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 3: think all that, even before you talk about Jalen Brunson, 1036 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 3: would make the Pacers the favorite. Considering Og is out 1037 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 3: and just what he does defensively being everywhere, and who 1038 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 3: they're going to fill in that spot with. That's a problem, 1039 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 3: and that's why the Indian Pacers are seven and a 1040 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 3: half point favorites tonight. That's a big line for them 1041 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 3: to cover, but the recipe says they will. 1042 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 4: I do think, and this injury injury, I mean, it 1043 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 4: has an impact on Games three tonight, possibly the series. 1044 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 4: But of course, even like the Knicks moving forward, like 1045 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 4: he could be out. I have no idea if this's true, 1046 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 4: but this is Og we're talking about, and it didn't 1047 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 4: look good. He could be up for the postseason, could 1048 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 4: be another guy the Knicks lose, and that changes obviously 1049 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 4: their chances of you know, in Eastern Conference finals or 1050 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 4: moving on to the finals. Like he's that important, as 1051 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 4: the record illustrates and what he does defensively. And then 1052 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 4: oh yeah, the guy won them Game two, really with 1053 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 4: the twenty eight points or what twenty four in the 1054 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 4: first half, whatever it was twenty two, thank you. He 1055 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 4: was huge. He turned in Kawi nineteen. So this is 1056 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 4: like it just keeps getting It's unbelieva. It's almost like 1057 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 4: a running bit at this point that the Knicks keep 1058 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 4: pulling it out, but they just have to lose a 1059 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 4: guy every time. 1060 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, two more injuries and it's the perfect Tom Thibodeau team. 1061 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 5: Just five starters, that's all we need. 1062 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 3: Yep. 1063 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 5: You know he thinks they have enough to win. But 1064 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 5: I'm with the attest this the Pacers. If the Pacers 1065 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 5: don't win Game three, bad news bears. He's gotta be 1066 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 5: a gentleman sweep if they don't win this one. And 1067 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 5: it's on Pascal Siakam to me, he's got a juicy 1068 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 5: match up here. They tried Josh Hart on Siakam when 1069 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 5: Og went out in Game two, was able to score 1070 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 5: over the top of him, but didn't have it really 1071 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 5: going in the fourth quarter. Siakam hasn't scored twenty or 1072 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 5: more since Game two. 1073 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 4: Round one. 1074 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 5: He started hot against the Bucks thirty six and thirty seven. 1075 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 5: I think since then he's been in the teams, not 1076 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 5: totally involved in the offense, a little bricky at times, 1077 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 5: missed a couple of big free throws in the fourth quarter, 1078 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 5: and with Haliburton, you know, just as an eighteen and 1079 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 5: nine guy for the past five months. Basically, it's got 1080 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 5: to be on Siakam to put the team on his 1081 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 5: back a little bit here, I think. 1082 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 3: And I guess it's precious to Chew that he'll be 1083 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 3: playing against his old teammate. I guess that's who takes 1084 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 3: OG's spot. They don't really have many options. No, he 1085 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 3: comes into the starting lineup and can play a ton. 1086 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 3: You don't want to see him shooting the ball all 1087 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 3: that much. That's what they have left, and Miles McBride 1088 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 3: will be coming off the bench. They literally have six 1089 00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 3: guys that they want to play. What about Albert. 1090 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 5: He's got to play. He's got to play at least 1091 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 5: to spell some guys, and. 1092 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 3: He was great when they got him immediately. I mean 1093 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 3: he was good. Yeah, he can score. But now you 1094 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 3: gotta play defense against his Pacers team for forty eight minutes. 1095 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 3: But they are moving really really quickly. 1096 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam needs to have a big, big game tonight 1097 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 4: to uh to make this a little more interesting for sure, 1098 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 4: this series and Vitory. 1099 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 3: I think they're all going to score running a blowout tonight. 1100 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 4: I think so indye blowout. 1101 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 3: What you're saying, that's hard, it's hard to say that 1102 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 3: against New York actually keep fighting. 1103 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 5: The problem is more of the defense, Like, yeah, yeah, 1104 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 5: the Pacers are getting lit up. 1105 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was part O G. 1106 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 5: But I mean I don't really think the Pacers are 1107 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 5: going to shut down the next now just because OG's 1108 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,479 Speaker 5: out that up. So they've given up on one hundred 1109 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 5: and twenty five points per one hundred possessions. Yeah, the 1110 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 5: first two games. That's way too many points. 1111 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've somehow run into a scorching hot Dante de 1112 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: Vincenzo and now with the injuryed O G, who has 1113 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 3: been good. Yeah, plus a Galen like I would say 1114 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 3: that I think the Pacers should be favorite. Bottom line, 1115 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 3: when you bring up those two guys, Devincenzo knows og 1116 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 3: but Jalen Broughnson can't be. 1117 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 4: No. 1118 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 3: But anyway, there, we'll see, we'll see. 1119 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 4: Okay, before we get to rapid fire. We forgot to 1120 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 4: do it last week or we didn't do it last week, 1121 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 4: so let's do it this week. It's five star Friday reviews. 1122 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 5: Oh, it's five star Friday, one of the first Fridays 1123 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 5: of every month. Well, we read five of your five 1124 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 5: star reviews on Apple Podcasts because apparently they help us 1125 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 5: with the rankings. We love rankings. Our first review comes 1126 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 5: from j D Kedania. It's titled Refreshing between game breakdowns, 1127 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,760 Speaker 5: legacy discussions, and their genuine comedic relief. These guys chemistry 1128 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 5: is once again on full display, just as great as 1129 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 5: it was on the Starters. Classic podcast group, Easy and 1130 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 5: enjoyable listen, which is what I'm looking for every time I. 1131 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 4: Put headphones on HIC phones. Nice. 1132 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,280 Speaker 5: That's just a straightforward, nice review. 1133 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 4: Jesus, Thanks JD. 1134 00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 3: Appreciate that. 1135 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm gonna salute everyone today all rights a salute 1136 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 4: kind of day. 1137 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 5: So our next review, best pod. This one's from Future 1138 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 5: the Rapper. My word is this podcast fantastic? It truly 1139 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 5: tickles me. When I come home to a fresh, new 1140 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 5: delicious episode from the boys. Keep It Up became the 1141 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 5: number one pod of all time for me after Jalen 1142 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 5: Jacobi got canceled her here first turn Up. 1143 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 4: Love you guys going back? Oh, he's saying after it 1144 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 4: got canceled. Yeah, but we were also on the same 1145 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 4: network as them at once. 1146 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 3: Yes, yes we were, yes, yes, yes, yes, or at 1147 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 3: least the drop was that once a week. 1148 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 4: Ye. Well that's a long time ago. So let's see 1149 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 4: still potting. So let'ee. 1150 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 5: Our next one is from Warpfoot always five stars, Trey. 1151 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 5: Can I get a follow back on letterbox to the user? 1152 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 5: Name is Warpfoot? That's from Warpfoot. I'm not going to follow. 1153 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 4: You because his name's Wartfoot. 1154 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 5: I don't know like following people on letterbox. Okay, I 1155 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 5: follow two people, Laura's cousin Luke and a guy I 1156 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 5: know named John. Okay, but if anybody else wants to 1157 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 5: follow warp Foot, go for it. 1158 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 4: I was trying to think, what's the best movie about feet? 1159 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 4: Probably My Left Foot? Yeah yeah, oh so good? Not 1160 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 4: specifically happy Happy Feet? 1161 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah? 1162 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 5: What do you let me look up warp foots following here? 1163 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 5: Let's see what some of their favorite movies are. 1164 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 4: That's good. 1165 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 5: Oh wait a second here in his favorite films or 1166 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 5: their favorite films is The Fast. 1167 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 4: And the Furious. The first one that sounds like you 1168 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 4: might have just got yourself a follow. 1169 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 5: From you gave his change. Wow, going back and watching 1170 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 5: all of the Planet of the Apes movies, workfoot well 1171 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,959 Speaker 5: sic of Wow, absolutely crazy man. Salute to you, warp foot, 1172 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 5: Sale to your warp foot. People out there might follow you. 1173 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 4: It could be a It could be a Bunyon, you 1174 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 4: never know. 1175 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 5: Could be a button. Hey, he could be a buddy. 1176 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,400 Speaker 4: So all right. 1177 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 5: The next five star review comes from Indigo Bunting. Stay 1178 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 5: for the basketball. Wait, come for the basketball, Stay for 1179 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 5: the chemistry. I have no idea how they make an 1180 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 5: hour of basketball talk every day so fun. I love 1181 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 5: no Dunks more than I love Marcus Smart, which is 1182 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 5: a lot. Speed cameras are good, though, Oh wow. 1183 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah you were? Was it you that were upset 1184 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 4: about speed cameras? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're good. Don't want 1185 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 4: a memorial, yeah specifically that, but of the hill? Yeah, 1186 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 4: I hate it. I hate it. 1187 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 5: I hate a speed camera on a hill. But look, 1188 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 5: we need them, especially in school zones. 1189 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 4: Yep, and that's where it is. 1190 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 5: But man, it's hard to go twenty five miles an 1191 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 5: hour down a hill. 1192 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 4: It's so hard. 1193 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 5: It's supposed to be riding my brakes. Come on me 1194 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 5: and warp foot. No way, we're watching fast and furious. 1195 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,359 Speaker 5: You spect me to go twenty five miles an hour. 1196 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:53,280 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Guy's gotta lead ward foot. So let's of course. Oha, 1197 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,280 Speaker 4: my god, this is long. Okay? How do I pronounce 1198 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 4: this name? Here? The do door dash? It's better do 1199 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 4: door dash. It's better dooras door dashes, a better rilla 1200 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 4: marketing because when. 1201 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 5: You look at it, you see ship. 1202 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I see, I see do do and ship better. 1203 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 5: This is a review for you. Been listening for a year, 1204 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 5: and I must say very good sirs. I must say 1205 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,919 Speaker 5: very good sirs. I think that's we're just good sirs. Okay, God, 1206 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 5: I admit my favorite person is JD. 1207 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 4: Nice. 1208 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,760 Speaker 5: Love that he doesn't care about basketball, but ye spends 1209 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 5: his life making content. 1210 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: For It'll be fair get paid. 1211 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 5: But also brings an outsider's view of what sikos look 1212 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 5: like on the basketball side. 1213 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 4: Great pod. 1214 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 5: I'm constantly refreshing my Apple Pod app from nine am 1215 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 5: to ten am, waiting for the No Dunks guys to 1216 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 5: pop up, which assume means I'm in California. 1217 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 4: It makes sense, you know. 1218 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 5: About noon eastern nine am West coast time is when 1219 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 5: it drops. If I had friends, I feel like we 1220 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 5: would be friends. I went on playback for a guy 1221 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 5: and got a chuckle from you guys for a comment 1222 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 5: I wrote, it was like having my own highlight. 1223 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:04,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1224 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 5: I don't have a lot going on, but I do 1225 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 5: love basketball and love the content you guys send out, 1226 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 5: and I love that it's live and the random rabbit 1227 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,399 Speaker 5: trailers you guys go on are freaking hilarious. The one 1228 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 5: thing I will say is there's one person on the 1229 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 5: pod I do not care for. I won't state it 1230 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 5: here and let you guys guess, but for reals, I 1231 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 5: listen to the pod every day and tell the one 1232 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 5: guy I know about it all the time. 1233 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 4: Damn, it's a good review. Five stars, Thank you, Salutia. 1234 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 4: But also it might tear us apart that comment and 1235 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 4: might tarists apart. We gotta figure it out. We gotta 1236 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 4: figure it out. It AJD. 1237 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,680 Speaker 5: The other guys, and I'll say, dude, door Dash, it's 1238 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 5: better if it's me and you know I'm reading this 1239 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 5: review cruel Wold, so you don't think it's you. My 1240 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 5: first inclination is it's me, Like it's absolutely but. 1241 00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 4: You're making me read it. 1242 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 3: He likes you my inclination. All right, you gave him 1243 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 3: a salute there. Maybe wind them over. 1244 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 4: Good stuff. Thanks to everybody five star reviews, keep them coming. 1245 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 4: Like Trey said, it's one of the first fridays of 1246 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 4: the month we read our five favorites. So thank you, 1247 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,839 Speaker 4: Thank you, serially, sincerely to everybody that does. Okay, before 1248 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 4: we go some rapid fire fund, it's never quite that rapid. 1249 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 4: I've got the questions. You guys got the answers. First one, 1250 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 4: According to collect Media, Sell the Bee's is set to 1251 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 4: sell NBA game worn jerseys in bi weekly drops by 1252 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 4: way of like fixed price market market by way of 1253 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 4: their fixed price marketplace. Excuse me. The first drop went 1254 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 4: live on Wednesday with a curated selection of seventy five 1255 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 4: jerseys from players including Anthony Edwards, Steph Curry, and so on. 1256 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,840 Speaker 4: The prices range from like twenty thousand dollars again fixed 1257 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 4: price for one of these jerseys, I believe like a 1258 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 4: Curry to five hundred dollars. I think you can get 1259 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 4: a Denny Avdia for five hundred dollars. I did take 1260 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 4: a quick look at it. So my question is, and 1261 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 4: you don't need to really do jerseys or sports even 1262 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 4: if you don't want to, but what piece of memorabilia 1263 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 4: would you pay top dollar for? 1264 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 3: That's quite the range that you said that. I didn't 1265 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 3: realize it was from five hundred bucks to twenty grand. 1266 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 3: It's like trying to buy a Paranike shoes like that's 1267 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 3: this shoes thing that the NBA is trying to get into. 1268 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the whole auctioning thing. Anyways, thanks to change, 1269 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 3: mine is a Connor Bidard hockey card. Why would I 1270 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 3: want that? Well, I won an NCAA tournament this path well, yeah, 1271 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 3: I wasn't really in the tournament. I just wanted to pool, 1272 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 3: and so I want I won a cards like I 1273 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 3: don't know, twenty packs that get sent to me. And 1274 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 3: my man Fernando said, you're gonna get a Connor Bodard 1275 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 3: card in there. It's probably gonna be worth like three 1276 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 3: hundred dollars something that well, that is that is Fernando, 1277 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 3: Are you are you kidding me? That's how much it's worth. 1278 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: I looked it up. It was worth three hundred bucks. 1279 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 4: Have you. I didn't get it though, I didn't get it. 1280 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 3: I didn't get it. That's that's why I want one. 1281 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 3: What I did get, I did get a very artistic 1282 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 3: Connor Bodard call a card. It's hard to say Connor 1283 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 3: Bodard card. Right now where he is, he's dressed in 1284 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 3: this what would you call this arment? 1285 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:20,440 Speaker 4: Sergeant Pepper. 1286 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. 1287 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it came over on the Mayflower. 1288 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I don't think that one's worth three hundred buck. 1289 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 3: And then there's another split card with him and Leo Carlson. 1290 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 3: But I don't think that one's worth three hundred bucks. 1291 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 3: But he's a rook obviously a top pick. So I'm 1292 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 3: looking for one of those. 1293 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 4: Okay, what about you. 1294 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 5: I do love the look of a framed jersey, Like 1295 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 5: I think they look really cool when people have it, 1296 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,919 Speaker 5: you know, like my man came, I got. 1297 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 4: My cool jerseys hanging up. 1298 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 5: So I want Vin Diesels one of Vin Diesel's Game 1299 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 5: warn tank tops from the Fast and Furious franchise. Frame 1300 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 5: it up the same way, man, if you would throw 1301 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 5: in the necklace. 1302 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:56,920 Speaker 4: He's always wearing the process. 1303 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of the neck I think. Yeah, other 1304 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 1: is just a tank. 1305 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 5: I could easily just frame a white tank top that's 1306 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 5: from Fast five. 1307 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, remember that. We have to believe you. Okay, good, good. 1308 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 4: What about you, j D. Where are you going? 1309 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm going into into the history books. 1310 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 1311 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill wore. 1312 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 2: A lot of hats, but I want this one, Oh 1313 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 2: tall hattie. It's a bowler hat. Yeah, I just think 1314 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 2: it looks badass. 1315 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: Put it in a case. 1316 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 2: Stick it somewhere here in the classic factory. 1317 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 4: Oh. 1318 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:32,919 Speaker 1: You really got to bring these. 1319 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 4: Back like a glass box like you will maybe put 1320 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 4: shoes in or something. 1321 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly nice. 1322 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 4: You want to bring those back. 1323 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd wear one of those around. 1324 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 4: I could see you rocking that. 1325 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. 1326 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 5: It's a little surprising that top hats have never had 1327 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 5: like a minor research. 1328 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:48,919 Speaker 1: Exactly right. 1329 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 5: You've seen people in driving caps. Fedora's had a big 1330 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 5: time moment. 1331 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 4: Yea even a pork. 1332 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 3: Pipe hat people, yeah, now, and so many hats, but 1333 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 3: not a Yeah. 1334 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 4: It was weird, very very strange. So weird people aren't 1335 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 4: wearing top hats. 1336 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little bit. I mean, slash was the 1337 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: last guy. 1338 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 4: Right, that's a great point. 1339 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's been forty thirty years, if you're being generous. 1340 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, at least has any NBA player showed up rocking 1341 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 4: a top hat like these guys wear the craziest crap, 1342 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 4: like a great point. I can't picture one. Maybe somebody 1343 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 4: like Halliburton should show up in a top hat. The 1344 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 4: things he's wearing. He's got an old time look. Yeah, yeah, 1345 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 4: do it, top hat? Tyrace do it tonight? 1346 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 3: Has a bowler done it? They are bowler. 1347 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: There's a bowler hat and there's a top hat. 1348 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1349 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm more interested in the bowler. But the top hat, chuir, 1350 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: why not? 1351 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, it's a little more rounded. Yeah a 1352 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 3: bowler Yeah yeah, come on, Belmo. 1353 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 4: Next one. Austin Rivers went viral this week when he 1354 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 4: claimed during an appearance on the Pat McAfee show that 1355 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 4: thirty current NBA players could play in the NFL and 1356 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,439 Speaker 4: that zero current NFL players could play in the NBA. 1357 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 4: That statement made a lot of football players quite mad, 1358 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 4: including former star JJ, who tweeted to Austin basically to 1359 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 4: the world quote, you don't got a job in either, 1360 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 4: right now, go ahead and try it, boom roast it. 1361 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 4: But I want to know, if you could be a 1362 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 4: pro athlete today, which sport would you choose? 1363 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Well, I just I just mentioned Jason Belmonte's name of bowling, 1364 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 3: and not that I don't want to be a bowler, 1365 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 3: but he became the best, and then he became extremely popular. 1366 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 3: In a similar way, I want to jump on pickleball 1367 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 3: while it's still it's still growing obviously a lot, but 1368 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 3: I want to get I'm going to become a pickleball 1369 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 3: superstar while the growth of the sport happens. And I 1370 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 3: also want to do it because selfishly, it hasn't been 1371 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 3: working for me as a sport. I signed up for 1372 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 3: six lessons, my lessons, Why do I need lessons? And 1373 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 3: then I went there and everybody is a lot older 1374 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 3: than me, and these lessons we're just in the kitchen. 1375 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 3: We're not really moving much. And I went to one 1376 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 3: and then and then it's like I got other things 1377 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 3: to do. Never went back. I went to one pickle ball. 1378 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 3: I should have gone back, but it's like I wasn't 1379 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 3: having fun. It was just it was also just a 1380 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 3: bad time. Number one, number two, it's supposed to I 1381 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 3: was literally the most athletic person out there, and I 1382 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 3: ain't that. I ain't a super super athlete right now, 1383 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 3: but I was describing pickleball. Yeah, but if you're playing 1384 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 3: singles and pickleball, that's hard. 1385 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: It's hard. 1386 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 3: It's hard. You have a lot of ground to cover. Yeah, 1387 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 3: so I'm yeah describing it because old people play it, 1388 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 3: but kids play it too, Like. 1389 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Sure, everybody, it's a it's a fun game. 1390 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take you out, test you, I'll show you pickleball, 1391 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 2: all right. I mean they start you drinking, which is like, 1392 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 2: that's what we're doing. It's it's that's the weirdly, that's 1393 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 2: the most advanced part of the game, right it's dinking. 1394 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 2: Like when you get down to drinking, that's when ship 1395 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,120 Speaker 2: gets serious, right Like, But most of the time, it's 1396 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 2: just like I'm whacking a ball back and forth on 1397 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 2: a small tennis court. 1398 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 3: That's what I want. I just want to whack it. 1399 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Well, play with me, because that's how I played less 1400 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: dink and more. Yeah, get over here, I want to 1401 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:07,919 Speaker 1: whack it. 1402 01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 4: Alright, TK, pro athlete today, what sport you choosing? 1403 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 5: I want to be a relief pitcher. 1404 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 4: Just hang out outside for like the hours a day. 1405 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 5: Every once in a while, I go pitch the three 1406 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,439 Speaker 5: batters eat some seeds. The whole rest of the time, 1407 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 5: all of them look like scumbags. 1408 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 1409 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:31,920 Speaker 5: No fitness required, so nice, sure chuck it. Hey, throw 1410 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 5: a slider here, Matt six. 1411 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 4: It's sort of like if you botch it too, like 1412 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 4: people care. Of course, it really does a lot of 1413 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 4: time you're coming in, there's already runners on base. 1414 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 2: A rescue. You're, yeah, let's do your best. Get out there. 1415 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 2: You've worked for an inning and a half, and. 1416 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you never have to run unless there's a bench brawl. 1417 01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,600 Speaker 3: Then you run. They're like, man, I'm tired. 1418 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 4: Good one, Uh steal your answer here. 1419 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 1: Or absolute yes good? 1420 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 3: No. 1421 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: F one driver easy, thought of that immediately. 1422 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 2: I've been on a track twice, and not an F 1423 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 2: one car obviously, but basically a glorified go kart, you know, 1424 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 2: with you know, force five speed or whatever, slamming that clutch. 1425 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 2: There is nothing more fun than that, literally, nothing more fun, even. 1426 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: If you're in the back of the pack. Just to 1427 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: do a couple of laps in an F one race, 1428 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: I fucking imagine, Oh my god, it so fun. So yeah, 1429 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 1: F one. 1430 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 4: Okay, great answers, guys, would be awesome. Final one. Believe 1431 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 4: it or not, The twenty twenty four NBA Draft Lottery 1432 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 4: will be held this Sunday, May twelfth, at three pm 1433 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 4: Eastern on ABC. That's right, Sunday. This is usually Tuesday 1434 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 4: night thing, but we're doing it on Sunday, which is 1435 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 4: Mother's Day. So two teams have the best odds for 1436 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 4: the number one pick. It's the Pistons and it's the Wizards. 1437 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 4: They got fourteen percent chance each, and then the team's 1438 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 4: following them are pretty close to that as well. But 1439 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 4: why wait until Mother's Day? Guys, tell me who is 1440 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 4: going to win the twenty twenty four draft lottery. 1441 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,439 Speaker 3: Past I kind of want the Washington Wizards to win, 1442 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 3: mostly because I am interested to see the dynamic between 1443 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 3: a guy who is a number one pick and Jordan 1444 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 3: Poole and Kyle Kuzma, who kind of want to be 1445 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 3: number one players. How is that going to be? How's 1446 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 3: that going to play out? That's what's interesting about that 1447 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 3: team to me. And to just help that team out 1448 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 3: because I mentioned those guys, those are the one two 1449 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 3: and Danny Avdia who had a good year, those are 1450 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 3: their top three. They need some serious help. It's the 1451 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,040 Speaker 3: capital city of this country. Get better, just get better. 1452 01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 4: They probably will win it too, because you know, by 1453 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 4: all accounts, this is not like, oh, there's a sure 1454 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 4: fire number one franchise guy and they seem to win 1455 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 4: the number one pick. When that's the situation, Kwame comes 1456 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 4: to mind. John Wall was a pretty big star. John 1457 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 4: Wall was pretty good. That's a good one. Ye. Did 1458 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 4: they have nervous never nervous purpose? They did? Ye? Number 1459 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 4: one pick? Yeah, anyway, they probably will win it. That's 1460 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 4: my point. Okay, Wizards. 1461 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 5: It definitely feels like for a team that absolutely needs 1462 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,120 Speaker 5: a number one start getting the number one pick in 1463 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 5: a role player draft. 1464 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 4: That's what I mean. I would be perfectly Wizards. Yeah, okay, 1465 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 4: so your one Zards? What about you, Trey? 1466 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 5: They only have a seven and a half percent chance 1467 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 5: of winning the draft lottery, But it's on Mother's Day, 1468 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 5: So I'm going with the mamphis Grizzlies. 1469 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 4: Okay, Wow, that would be huge to them. Oh man, 1470 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 4: we think they'll all right. We could use an awesome 1471 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 4: role player. Yeah, you use a wing Matus Bozellis. Okay, 1472 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 4: we got the Zards and we got the Grizzlies. JD, 1473 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 4: who's winning the draft lottery. 1474 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Mother's Day miracle. Light the beam. 1475 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 1: It's going to the Kings. 1476 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,000 Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa. 1477 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 2: They have barely any chance I think is less than 1478 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 2: what is three percent chance? 1479 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 4: It's okay, it happened before, it's happened before. 1480 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen on Sunday. 1481 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 4: So we're gonna light the beam others. 1482 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Do you think they would light the beam if they 1483 01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 1: got the number one? 1484 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 4: Yeah they should, Yeah, think oh that might that'd be 1485 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 4: the lowest overge. That'd be the lowest Wow. JD's calling 1486 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 4: it shot. I don't know who's gonna win. I'll leave 1487 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 4: that to you guys, but I will say this, I'll 1488 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 4: talk this into existence that the Toronto Raptors are going 1489 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 4: to get the number three pick. Okay, we're the North 1490 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 4: baby with the North getting number three pick. 1491 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 3: I saw those percentages that you shared from I guess 1492 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 3: it was a Raptors account that they're basically can have 1493 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 3: a number one, two, three, or four equal amount of It's. 1494 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I saw I like the third pick. Man, 1495 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 4: tell you they're going to keep it, and they're jumping 1496 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 4: up there. UH And big news in Toronto that we 1497 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 4: learned this morning. They are getting a professional women's basketball 1498 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 4: team in Toronto. CBC Sports UH are reporting that Toronto 1499 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 4: billionaire Rry Tannembaum and his group they've been granted an 1500 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 4: expansion franchise in the w NBA. So the announcement's going 1501 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 4: to come in a couple of weeks in Toronto and 1502 01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 4: the team will in theory be playing in me twenty 1503 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,959 Speaker 4: twenty six. But do it, Larry, so we love to see. 1504 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 4: It's awesome. What's the most popular movie right now? You know, 1505 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 4: Toronto Raptors named after Jurassic Park. 1506 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 1: I know, Furiosas. 1507 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 4: Oh that's a cool day. Sounds actually bad. 1508 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I assume it's going to be popular. 1509 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:19,759 Speaker 4: That's the movie. 1510 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1511 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 4: Really what you thought of the trailers? 1512 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:23,719 Speaker 3: I haven't. 1513 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I didn't watch any trailers. 1514 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 4: What's his name in it? Worth? Yeah, something that's I 1515 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 4: don't know, it's not hidden for me. He looks like 1516 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 4: he's being an extra extreme in this one. Yeah, and 1517 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,719 Speaker 4: maybe that's the whole thing, like, you know, over the top. 1518 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 4: I guess it is. I'm excited. Hey, yeah, you're gonna 1519 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 4: go see it? No, but I'll watch it. At home. 1520 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 1: I see it in the theater. 1521 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 4: KD Man, what man, Look, I got two kids who 1522 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 4: are nine and seven. Can't take that one. 1523 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna take that. Yeah, but when I get 1524 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 5: a babysitter, I want to hang out. 1525 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 3: With my wife. 1526 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair enough, fair enough. 1527 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 4: I want to talk to her. 1528 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm taking my teenage kids. 1529 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 4: See that's nice. That's nice. Okay, enjoy it. 1530 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 2: Trying to Toronto Challengers. 1531 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,679 Speaker 5: That sounds like a team name. 1532 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 3: It does. 1533 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it would be a weird one to neighbor. 1534 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,480 Speaker 1: Is coming at this the Deadpools. 1535 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1536 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 4: There's a big theory. We'll hear the big theory. Just 1537 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,839 Speaker 4: to bring it back to pickleball quickly, Challengers about tennis, 1538 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah uh that Big Tennis wanted this movie to bring 1539 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 4: a little bit more of the buzz back to tennis 1540 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,880 Speaker 4: because pickleballs. 1541 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know where threesomes are pretty pretty common. 1542 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 2: The pickleball cord tassy. Yeah, I'm telling you all that and. 1543 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 4: Interesting, no judgment. You got me, all right, guys, that's 1544 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 4: rapid fire, not so rapid. Hopefully that was another classic. 1545 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 4: But you tell us by leaving us a review on 1546 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 4: the podcast platform, of your choice or hitting the light 1547 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,759 Speaker 4: button subscribe and sharing the show if it's a classic 1548 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 4: that helps us out. Thanks for joining us live though. 1549 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 4: We'll be back on mone I guess there's six games 1550 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 4: total this weekend to tonight, two on Saturday, two on Sunday. 1551 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 4: We got the draft lottery, So let's talk about come 1552 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,839 Speaker 4: Monday morning. We'll see you here in the Classic Factory 1553 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 4: at ten am Eastern. Until then, Clipper Bros. You heard 1554 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 4: it here first, have a great time, turn up. Love 1555 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 4: you guys awesome. 1556 01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember mates. Busselis who's getting 1557 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 3: drafted this year. We watched him play the College Park Skyhawks, 1558 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 3: one of the g leaguing Night members. He's a Lithuanian, 1559 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 3: getting another Lithuanian in the league. I googled. I do 1560 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 3: think his you want to s Valentuna's father is like 1561 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 3: his physiotherapist or something like his trainer. Yeah, there's some 1562 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,519 Speaker 3: connection there. I can't wait to get some more about it. 1563 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 3: I think he told chums about it. Anyways, cool story. 1564 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now that guy that wrote into 1565 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 4: yesterday's beach Step and did not predict you were going 1566 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 4: to say that at the end of the show. It 1567 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 4: rased a many kind of people.