1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Really really dalks look at this now. Tip to Tim. 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 3: I'm Brian Campbell. 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: This Morning Combat. It is Monday, June fifteenth, twenty twenty, 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: and it is time for Morning Combat. Welcome everyone. My 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: name is Luke Thomas. I am one half of your 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 2: hosting duo. The other half is the gentleman on that 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: side of the screen. He is the conspiracy to my theory, 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: the peanut butter to my jelly. 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I had several of those, and I 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: was like, I mean, I understand the sentiment, but I 70 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: don't know there's there's there's I'll tell you this one, 71 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: tell you this much. If you start buying this gear 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: the next round, there'll be plenty of room for innovation changes, 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: so to speak. So just by what we have, will 74 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: you please? 75 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: For cry I don't I don't see our competition dressed 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: up in their own merch all right, you know what 77 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean? So f them as a staff, record label 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: and as a crew, and if you want to be 79 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: down with them, then f you too. All right, GINO 80 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: XL you know what I'm talking about here, Okay, all. 81 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Of you can die. All right, let's get the show 82 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: started if we can. Five major topics. Let's start with 83 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: the first one, which comes to us as a consequence 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: of Saturday's UFC fight card. Now, on paper, was not 85 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: the best fight card in general. I would say it 86 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: over delivered relative to its expectations, although even then some 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: of the fights were a bit of a dud. But 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: in the main event women's flyweight contest, Jessica Ey Cynthia 89 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: Calvi Jo and As the result, Cynthia emerges with a 90 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: clear decision win in her first jump up to one 91 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pounds. The fight went the full distance. 92 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: She looked pretty strong, She looked pretty good. To me. 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 2: It was clearly her fight by the time the fifth 94 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: round had expired. BC. Now that she has gone from 95 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: one point fifteen to one hundred and twenty five pounds, 96 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: she beat a previous title contender in this weight class. 97 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 2: Let's just ask the question, is Cynthia a clear flyweight 98 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 2: title contender in your mind? 99 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 3: One hundred percent, Luke. And here's the hard truth. 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: Right this division it's shallow, even go as far as 101 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: saying it blows right. It's Valentina, Chefchenko and everyone else 102 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: until someone really defines himself as a legitimate threat. And 103 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: by the way, Saturday night was a very big night. 104 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: More on that to come in the women's flyweight division. 105 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: Even if she hadn't looked this good, you would say 106 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: she's an instant contender because she's a name, she has 107 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: a great record. But you gotta give her credit for 108 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: what she did. Say what you will about Jessica I. 109 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of one step forward, two steps back 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: in her career, but she's a big flyweight. She's as 111 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: tough enout as you can come. And to see cal 112 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: Vio have the success on the feet, go five rounds 113 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: for the first time, and most importantly, Luke mix in 114 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: the wrestling in such opportune times. The timing of the 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: takedowns was perfect. Her ability to really just smother Jessica 116 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: iye and come close to a couple potential fight ending submissions. 117 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a dominant performance from start to finish, 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: pretty much after that somewhat close first round in which 119 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: they traded jabs in right hands. 120 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: We need we need this division to create. 121 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: Whether somebody who is marketable, somebody who is a threat, 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: or somebody that can be both. We need players in 123 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: this division not not trying to do a full backhanded 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: disrespect to the Jetsica Eyes, the Caitlin Chukegans of the world, 125 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: but Luke, they're not title threats, even though they can 126 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: be highly ranked title contenders. 127 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if Cynthia Calvio can be a. 128 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: Threat for someone as great as Chevchenko, but I'm willing 129 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: to find out. Because Calvio's got a motor, she's tough, 130 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: she seems to be pretty smart in there and how 131 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: she broke down this fight. So it's a big win 132 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: for flyweight. And that's not even getting into Maria Maria right. 133 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: It reminds me of a West Side story. Indeed, Agapova 134 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: may have stolen this entire night, Luke, and I know 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: you believe that. 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: Yes, like one of the members of the Jets and 137 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: the Sharks BC fell in love with a girl named Maria. 138 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: But getting back to this particular case with Cynthia, you know, 139 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: here's the funny thing. It's like when she won, to me, 140 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, she did everything that she was 141 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: probably supposed to. I mean, she didn't get the finish suppose, 142 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: but she looked great, as you mentioned, twenty five minutes 143 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: full motor for the whole thing, obviously up a weight class. 144 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: The cut itself was not a particular challenge. I had 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: spoken to her earlier in the week. She had told 146 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: me how much better she felt with a new team. 147 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: She was getting all of that worked out now over 148 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: at AKA, previously a team Alpha Male. So I think 149 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: if you are Cynthia, you look at this and you 150 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: say to yourself, wow, there's a lot of things that 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: went right here. I just also think we got to 152 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: hold our horses. I like the new fresh blood in 153 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: that division. I like what she brings to me. It's 154 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: a much more interesting fight potentially if she can get 155 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: past chew Kegang, which she may have to face her next, 156 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: then chew kegan for Chevchenko. At the same time, did 157 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: I really see anything that would tell me she's a 158 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: real clear threat to Chevchenko? No, not really read. I mean, 159 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: here's the thing. It's like when when Cynthia came into 160 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: the UFC, Dude, she was hitting gator rolls off anacondas, 161 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: and then when the anacona didn't work, she would use 162 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: it like to take the back or to flip people over. 163 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: I mean, she was doing all kinds of really aggressive, 164 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: interesting things in the grappling apartment. She's certainly much more 165 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: well rounded now, probably because she has to be, But 166 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: I don't know that her game is more dynamic even 167 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: if it is more well rounded, which sounds contradictory, but 168 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: when you think about it actually makes sense. So I 169 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: respect what she's done in growing her overall skill set 170 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: and the way she beat Iye, which you know fairly 171 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: thoroughly to me, tells you she can jump to the 172 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: front of that division and create for a new and 173 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: interesting challenge right away. 174 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: You want to have real talk. 175 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: This is what Luke Thomas is saying. You want to 176 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: have real talk. 177 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: The real talk is that there is a ceiling for 178 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: how good she can get, and that ceiling, as far 179 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: as our eyes can tell us, cannot touch Valentina Chefchenko. 180 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're saying, and I don't. 181 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: Disagree, Luke, but I'm not saying it's so much the ceiling, 182 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: because the ceiling would say that we kind of know 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: either what the limit looks like or she's hit it. 184 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit pumping the brakes on that. I'm 185 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: just saying what we saw with I was great. I'm 186 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: not here to undercut it at all. I'm just saying, 187 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: given how good that is, and it seemed to be, 188 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: you know, a pretty full throated effort. What did you 189 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 2: see that that told you that was gonna be a 190 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: tough challenge for chef Chenko. That's not necessarily anything. 191 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: I think that's so then there's a natural transition there 192 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: to Maria Agapova, because what I saw there, Luken, look, 193 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: it's one fight, it's r UFC debut, right like, shout 194 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: out to h to a great victory. But what I 195 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: did see there was the potential at some of those 196 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: next level things that you're going to need to eventually 197 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: compete or have a chance of competing with somebody as 198 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: jeff Chenko. So to see Agtpova twenty three years old, 199 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: right from Kazakhstan just come in there with so much 200 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: damn swagger, Luke, just dripping swagger. You made a great 201 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: point on Twitter that there was a reminder of a 202 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: young Yoanna John Chaychek from the fluidity of striking and 203 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: the aggression. 204 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: But I just saw not only a future star. 205 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I've seen someone that strong 206 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: in the force in a long time. And it scared 207 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: me then and it scares me even more now. She 208 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: had that thing that I saw in Connor McGregor's first 209 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: two fight, that I saw in early Ronda Rousey's strikeforce, 210 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: that thing where you're like, oh my god, there's something 211 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: here that's going to grow very large and. 212 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun to see, Luke. 213 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: Because this division has no identity beyond Valentina, I don't 214 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: know if Marie is the real goods. Obviously that's only 215 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: going to be the proof inside the cage. But talk 216 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: about somebody who gets me excited, and not for the 217 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: reasons that you think I'm getting excited, Luke, there is 218 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: a fighter with a style and a flash. 219 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: And an aura that we need to get on board with. 220 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. She looked tremendous. And you 221 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: mentioned the Connor McGregor sort of overlap starting super strong 222 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: bell rings. She's already in range, already knows what to do. 223 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Areolating her game fly And I've always talked about this. 224 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: In modern MMA, it's hard to take someone down and 225 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: beat them up and then pass, and then take the 226 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: back and choke them out. And you can say, well 227 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: we see that every weekend, right, It's just difficult to do. 228 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: You have to get the takedown. You have to hold 229 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: them down, you have to methodically pass, you have to 230 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: wait for them to make an error, force them into one. 231 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: It gets done. It's just a really labor intensive way 232 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: to find a submission. You also find people though, on 233 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: the other side BC that will light you up. Wait 234 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: for the tiniest mistake and then snatch submissions, leap into position, 235 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: grab a hold of them. You saw that with Maria 236 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: Agopova here jumping on the back, immediately firing into the choke, 237 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: snatching Hannah Seipher's off of her base. Again. She seemed 238 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: a little raw in other parts of her game, but 239 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: as you mentioned twenty three years old, Hungary, we could 240 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: have a Kyrghyzstan versus Kazakhstan BATTLEBC. That's what I'm talking 241 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: about here, these people. I'm telling you women's MMA, and 242 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: it deserves to be mentioned here. How many times have 243 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: you seen a top contender in the UFC that has 244 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: some kind of Invicta FC background. Dude, it is constant. 245 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: We don't say it enough, but I don't know where 246 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: the women's MMA game would be were it not for 247 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: what Invicta FC is doing, from recruiting talent to grooming 248 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: them to showcasing them all the levels in between. We 249 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: really owe a major debt of attitude to them. Of course, 250 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: Maria Agopova's talented in her own right. I'm simply saying 251 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: every time you see someone of these like fresh contenders, 252 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: whether it's Strawwaight or band Someway or flyweight, they all 253 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: seem to have some background for crying out loud and 254 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: in Victor FC. So I'm very grateful because they seem 255 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: to have found her, got her ready for the stage, 256 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: and she was shot out of a cannon on Saturday. 257 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: And that just you know, quickly, this is a testament 258 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: to hard work. 259 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: While a lot of what I liked out of Maria 260 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: seemed to be like natural sort of you know, movement 261 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: in size and all that. You know, to hear her 262 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: story of going to the Dana Why Contender series, losing 263 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: admitting she she just wasn't ready and lost, going back 264 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: to Invicta, getting fights in other organizations, and then coming 265 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: back ready right, moving her life to att in South 266 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: Florida and really committing. It's a it's a you know, 267 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: a little inspiring story there. We'll see where the future 268 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: brings us. As you know, Luke, you're pretty much one 269 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: great win away from getting into the top five at 270 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: any point at women's flyweight. 271 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: All right, Jay wants us to move on. But before 272 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: we do, very quickly, be see Marvin Vettori score to 273 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: win in the co main event. A bit of a 274 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: back and forth kind of scrambling fested middleweight before Vittori 275 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: kind of put his stamp on things. Although I would 276 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: say it wasn't all that back and forth. Roberson's athletic 277 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: had a couple of decent escapes or moments where he 278 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: got free, but really the guy who was defining the 279 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: tenor of the ground exchanges in general was Marvin Vittori. 280 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: The question is is he the dark horse at one 281 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five pounds. I have to tell you BC, 282 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: I think that he is. He's been offer, you know, 283 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: and inconsistent in terms of a frequency of competition, and 284 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: he had that loss to Attasignia. But you go back 285 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: and you watch that that was competitive like he's He 286 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: actually did pretty well. He wasn't as technically smooth obviously 287 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: as out of Signia, but he's a big, strong kid. 288 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: His game is getting better. He trains over at MMA, 289 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: kings kicks him excuse me with Hafel Cordero. He's he's 290 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: a good fighter, you know, and can he be great? 291 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. Some time will tell, But what I 292 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: saw here was the things that he naturally does pretty well, 293 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 2: they got better. He stuck to a game plan. He 294 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: must have had all the nerves in the world. Little 295 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: flat footed on the on his feet, so I think 296 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 2: he has to kind of move a way from the 297 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: aggression slash meat headedness into a more cerebral posture quite 298 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: literally and then strategically. But does he have the goods 299 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: to give people in the top five problems? I actually 300 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: think that he does. I would like to see where 301 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: he can go from here. 302 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, great tattoo game. On top of that, you mentioned 303 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: something interesting there about you know, can he sort of 304 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: calm himself down a bit to level out and round 305 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: out his game? And I thought by the way that 306 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: this performance offered him some of those opportunities, right, He 307 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: didn't just walk through there and knock him out. 308 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: He had to show his ground game, He had to 309 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: show his patience. 310 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: But he's one of those rare fighters, Luke who seems 311 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: to thrive on the idea of drama and emotions, you know. 312 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: And we saw him attack Robertson in the hotel ahead 313 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: of the falling out of their first schedule about and 314 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: then to see him this whole week be fired the 315 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: hell up at all times. You know, you kind of 316 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: wondered if he was going to go out there and 317 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: maybe be a bit too jacked up, and he wasn't. 318 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: This is a ferocious guy. Could he be the dark horse? 319 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: It's very possible, but I want to see him now 320 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: against an elite he was taught about. 321 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: You know, I think I'm ready for a top ten. 322 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: I'd almost want to put him in there with a 323 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: top five because he has that performance against Audis Sonya. 324 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: And yes it was a loss. 325 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a truther and say, you know, 326 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: I did score that for him. It was a close 327 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: but very competitive fight. I think he's shown you in 328 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: small doses because he's been able to stay consistent out 329 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: of you know, things outside of his power, that he 330 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: does have the potential to be a top five fighter. 331 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: I kind of want to find out right now, Luke, 332 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: if that's true, because you know, Atisanya showed you flashes 333 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: right now, he's a special different fighter. I'm not comparing 334 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: the two, but once Adisnia showed you those legit top 335 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: five flashes, he got pushed to the forefront and got 336 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: a chance to find out. And you do have to wonder, 337 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: if you're a Victorian, I'm sure this is something that 338 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: fuels him. How would the future be different right now 339 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: had he gotten that decision over out of Sonya. I'm 340 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: not saying he would have followed that same path and 341 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: gotten the same chances and knocked out the same people. 342 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: But you do wonder how different things would be. I 343 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: want to find out right now if this guy is 344 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: the Goods. 345 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone has their time, and that was out of 346 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: Signs time. But maybe Vittori's is coming up. I'm not 347 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: to say. I'm not here to say that's not true. 348 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: It seems very very plausible. Okay, we go now to 349 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: topic number two. BC. We know about Fight Island. It exists. 350 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: It's Abu Dhabi. It's not much more complicated than that. 351 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: It's Yas Island on Abu Dhabi. It's not some beachfront 352 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: affair in the middle of you know, next to Guam 353 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: or something. It's not Jeffrey Epstein's private island. It's not 354 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: it's not any of those things. It's just Ya's Island. 355 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: They've been there twice. This will be a third, fourth, fifth, 356 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: and sixth time, I suppose. All right, so there's a 357 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: lot to unpack here. Let's start with the crown jewel 358 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: of the slate of four cards are going to have 359 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: in the span of three weeks BC three title fights 360 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: at UFC two fifty one from folks who may I 361 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: know Walter Wait title up for Grabs champion Kamar Rusman 362 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: taking on Gilbert Burns Featherway title Up for Grabs champion 363 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: Volkanovski Versus Holloway. This is the immediate rematch from their 364 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: first bout and last, but not least certainly Peter Yan 365 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: Josaldo for the vacant bansamweight title. What do you make 366 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: of Fight Island? What do you make of two point 367 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: fifty one? What do you make of the UFC's push 368 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: in July? Unpack all this for me, bucause. 369 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: That's a loaded question. 370 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: A lot of angles here, Look first and foremost, Look, 371 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I gotta say it. High five to Dana 372 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: on bringing it. This is the international fight week week 373 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: right July eleventh, when we expect loaded fight cards, multiple 374 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: title bouts, and we're in the middle of a quarantine 375 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: and like he always complains, he's barely keeping the train 376 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: on the track. Yet we're getting a freaking fantastic pay 377 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: per view July eleventh, all things considered, three title fights, 378 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: and by the way, the other two fights on that 379 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: main card are hot fire when you consider Noma unis 380 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: andraje two and also Paige vans Aant taking a really 381 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: hard fight against Amanda hebis So, I love the crap 382 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: out of that. I love that in a quarantine, Data 383 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: is not mailing it in. Look, I said from the 384 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: very beginning, and I wasn't sure about it. I said 385 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: when we were rightfully criticizing Data for being so bold 386 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: and almost wreckles in Taichi Palace and all that we've 387 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: been through, that that there was potential that he comes 388 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 1: out of this as a Robin hood in the end. 389 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: And Luke, I'm sorry he is right now. I know 390 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: there's a fighter pay argument. We're gonna get into that 391 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: again soon. But he's keeping you know, me employed and busy, 392 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: you the same, and he's not only outpacing his competitors 393 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: and boxing and in the team sports, he's putting out 394 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: really great stuff. 395 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say shout up to that. 396 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: If f last Saturday's card, the Eye Calvio one was 397 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: the worst that we'll see this year, I'm sorry. 398 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: It ain't that bad, Okay. But with that said, Luke, 399 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: an absolute bait and switch on Fight Island. 400 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: This is an absolute let me, you know, hype up 401 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: something that really wasn't there. Not only is Ya's Island, 402 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: the same island as like Manhattan, being an island in 403 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: New York. They've already been there a few times on 404 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: that same property, like this is this is crap. 405 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: And for Dana in interviews, you know. 406 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: Saturday at the postfight press conference in Vegas, to sort 407 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: of laugh at the media and be like, oh, well 408 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: there's new media covering us now, and you know, they 409 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: assumed we would have you know that we assume that 410 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: because of you, Dana. We assumed we were gonna have 411 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: sharks with fricking laser beams and guys with machine guns 412 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: on the beach and Bruce Lee lingering in the ethos 413 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: because of you. Go to UFC dot com slash merch 414 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: or whatever their site is, there's a lot of Fight 415 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: Island merch out there and it's pretty badass and it's 416 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: all palm trees and islands because of you, Dana. So Luke, 417 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if this was a they had a 418 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: different island in mind. They tried their best, it didn't 419 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: work out. Then they just followed the money to Abu Dhabi. 420 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, look it's it's a freaking quarantine, right, 421 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: do what you can to survive. But it's actually Dana's 422 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: cryptic nature that kept this illusion going in the end, 423 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: like who cares. I wasn't gonna fly to Fight Island. 424 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fly to Abu Dhabi. I'm grateful that 425 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: this card is a badass as a fan, I'm grateful 426 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: as a journalist all that, But you can't blame any 427 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: of us for going womp womb. 428 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: I mean, this is you know, come on, you know 429 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: the this is it's pretty lame. 430 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: It's pretty lame. 431 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: Look, it's pretty lame. 432 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: It's super it's super lame. It's super lame. I mean 433 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: there's a lot to I remember years ago when they 434 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: had like a press conference and it was it was 435 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: a it was a it was a conference call, but 436 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: it was you know, UFC teasa's huge announcement. We're like, wow, 437 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: what is this going to be? And the announcement was 438 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: we've re signed with Spike or like okay, that's it, 439 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: Like you're just still gonna be on what you've been on, 440 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 2: Like that's the thing. And of course, if you think 441 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: about it from a UFC's perspective, that was a big 442 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: deal at the time. They probably got more money from 443 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: Spike at the time, or the deal had probably grown 444 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: in some kind of way it was worth I think 445 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: one hundred million or more. It was a big deal, 446 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: but to the average fan, it just didn't feel that way. 447 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: The thing about Fight Island was I said this before BC. 448 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: You know me, I only cared about getting that Nevada 449 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: Commission protocol in place because it not only allows UFC 450 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: to come back, it allows anybody who can follow that 451 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: protocol to come back. And of course we saw top rank, 452 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: which we'll talk about here in a few minutes, and 453 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: so that to me was a bigger deal because I've 454 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: seen boatdog fight. It's fine for five seconds when they're 455 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 2: fighting on a beach, and then you're like, okay, but 456 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: who's fighting? And do I care? That's really what you 457 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: always come back to. In the end, it didn't matter 458 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: to me, But you're right, it is a bait and switch. 459 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: You can still go, as you mentioned, to the UFC store. 460 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 2: You can find Fight Island merchandise. You can go to 461 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: UFC store dot com, Slash collection slash Fight Dash Island. 462 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: They have shirts on there that say Fight Island location unknown. 463 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: What it's not Doctor Evil's Layer in the middle of 464 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: the Bermuda Triangle, It's fucking Ya's Island. You've been there 465 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: a few times? What are you talking about? So they 466 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: clearly and quite literally, BC quite literally oversold what Fight 467 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 2: Island was all about. But to your point, what are 468 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: they bringing to the fans, which is really what I 469 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: care about? What kind of fights are they bringing there? 470 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: If you wanted to, if you really wanted to be 471 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: a hard ass, you could go through You should say, well, 472 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: that should be Masbodoal taking on Kamara Rusban not got 473 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns say why is Aldo in this title fight? 474 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: You could say, well, Max and Volkanovski they're the two 475 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: best featherweights. But should there be somebody else in the mix? 476 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: You can be a real hard mess about it. But 477 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: the totality of all three together on those cards. Plus, 478 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: by the way, think about this, Speaking of Yas Island, 479 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: Frankie Edgar's gonna make his bansamweight debut on this card 480 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: against Pedro Mugnoz. The last time he was here he 481 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: won the title from BJ Penn. Talk about a telling 482 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: of the story of Frankie Edgar's career between then and now. 483 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that you could really 484 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: really sink your teeth into, from storylines to great fights, 485 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: and everything in between. And then the week after that, 486 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: by the way, the flyweight title is gonna be up 487 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: for grabs. There's a ton to like there. So from 488 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: a commercial standpoint, they really got out in front of 489 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: their skis here. From a quality standpoint in terms of 490 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: what they're giving the fans, there's a lot to like 491 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: and you have to acknowledge it, and I do. 492 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not against them taking advantage, you know, merch 493 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: wise and patent wise and all that. But like Danny, 494 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: you can't, like then celebrate the fact that we all 495 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: got right. 496 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't work that way. 497 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: But just to close, Luke, since you're a COVID nineteen 498 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: trumpetereer of all things safety. We are doing fight Island 499 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: supposedly because international people can't fly to the US. But 500 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: isn't like Alexander Volkov fighting next week in Vegas, and 501 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: didn't you know, why are we sending US based fighters 502 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: out to fight Island? I don't know if does that 503 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: really work that way? 504 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. So for example, Overeim when he fought 505 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, he flew from Holland. He was in a 506 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: Denver before. But I talked to him that Monday after 507 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: he had flown back to Holland. So remember, some fighters 508 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: can come back and forth. I think the problem is, 509 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: and a big one is a lot of the Brazilian 510 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: fighters can't get here, a lot of you know, from 511 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: different places or that place, but they might be able 512 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: to get as a meeting in the middle to Abu Dhabi. Now, 513 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: of course Gilbert Burns and Kamar who could fight here, 514 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: but they're trying to stack things over there. So that's 515 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: my understanding. It's not a total restriction on who could 516 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: be here, but it's enough that it's a problem in 517 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: the end. So yeah, that's where we're at on that one. Okay, 518 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: let's move on here to the third of our topics here. 519 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: Fight er pay is something that is just not a 520 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: story that is going away. Even last night BC, after 521 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: we had already planned out the show, Jorge Masmital took 522 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: back to Twitter and I feel like we've discussed this 523 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: sort of ad nauseum at this point, but it really 524 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: is something we can't get away from because BC, it's 525 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 2: an issue in all of combat's sports. Nay, it's an 526 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: issue in sports more generally. Think about it this way. 527 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: In the UFC side of things, we have everything. We've 528 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: discussed John Jones, Henris a Hudo and again just even 529 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 2: last night, Jorge Masmital. On the boxing side, it's not 530 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: so much people complaining about their pay as such. It's 531 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 2: more that the model as it stands is insufficient to 532 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: get the big draws back, at least for right now. 533 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: And then even in the wider world of sports, BC, 534 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: look what's happening in American baseball. These athletes there with 535 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 2: their union a complaining about some of the offers that 536 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: the owners are making in terms of what the pay 537 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: should be for the number of games. And the question 538 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: is why is there this common thread of let's call it, 539 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: in our case in the combat sports world, fighter pay, 540 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: but in the wider world, the sports world more generally, 541 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: the sort of athlete pay. BC. I have a theory 542 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: on this. I want to see what you think about it. 543 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, here is don't just sing it, look 544 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: bring it. 545 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: Here is my thought about this. If you look at 546 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: any industry, entertainment, sports, whatever, the pandemic has accelerated either 547 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: trends or really revealed big problems that have existed in 548 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: everyone's business. So you take for example, AMC movie theaters 549 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: right there, was this trend already of people using just 550 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: Fandango Now and Apple iTunes and TV to just get 551 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: movies when they came home. There's been a real decline 552 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: in the use of American theaters. They make most of 553 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: their money, by the way, from concessions. Well, now this 554 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: has turned into an existential crisis because it has exacerbated 555 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: the pandemic, has exacerbated and exposed the trends. I think 556 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: the same kind of thing is happening across pay in 557 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: all of sports. In the UFC, these guys have been 558 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: wanting to get paid for a really long time. They 559 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: finally have information about it. They've been speaking out here 560 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: or there in general, but now with the court information 561 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: and the UFC's relatively weakened position, so to speak, they're 562 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: speaking out on the combat sports side for boxing, right, 563 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: They're not really complaining about the model per se, except 564 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 2: they want money from the gates. You're not gonna get 565 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: any of these fighters that make money off the gate 566 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: until there is a gate or until some kind of rich, 567 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: probably evil person like a Saudi Prints or something just 568 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 2: coughs up a bunch of extra money. And then on 569 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: the athlete side, to the major league Baseball and their players. 570 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: They're supposed to have a renewed CBA negotiations next season. 571 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 2: This is a foretelling of all the problems that are 572 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: going to happen if they can't even get this right. 573 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: I don't know how we get out of this mess, BC, 574 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: but that is my thought. The pandemic has accelerated trends 575 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: and it has exposed problems, fractures, fault lines in all 576 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: of the different sports. And that's why you're seeing pay 577 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: concerns everywhere. 578 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: It's exposed the fault lines in your own marriage and 579 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: your you know, relationship with your kids, and in your business. 580 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: It's put a you know, honestly a magnifying glass on everything, 581 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: because never in life do we press pause for this 582 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: long and sort of take stock of what is in 583 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: front of us. But I mean, look, I get it. 584 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: I get Jorge Mosvel, right, I mean, you know, he's 585 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: a rider, but still he's just a simple man. All 586 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: he wants is money, f the fame. He's a simple man. 587 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: The money's not there right now. And I thought it 588 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: was interesting, Luke, from some reporting from Irajwani of ESPN 589 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: that UFC did go back to the well ahead of 590 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: the announcement of this two fifty one card and was like, okay, 591 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: or hey, you can get what we paid you for 592 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: the Das or for the Naydaz fight, will double the 593 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: original offer. And he still was like, no, f off, 594 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: This is about principle. So this is getting very interesting, Luke. 595 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: But you teased on something when he made the Saudi 596 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: prince joke. When these fights get big, fights are about 597 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: to get made, right like Anthony Joshua last year rematching 598 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: Andy Ruez, and we're like, man, I want that crap 599 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: back in Madison Square, Gardener, put it in Cowboys Stadium 600 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: in front of one hundred thousand, or put it in 601 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium where it belongs. Right, And then he goes 602 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: to Saudi because they offered Anthony Joshua eighty million dollars. Right, 603 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: it actually happened, And then we're like, oh, really, why 604 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: is it going there? Luke? We've never needed these folks. 605 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying those people, but what I'm saying 606 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: these folks, I mean you, well, yeah, foreigners with a lot. 607 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: Of money who may or may not be sketchy, and 608 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: just like there's a lot of headlines coming out of Europe, 609 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: right now with you know, the head of Tyson Fury's 610 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: management team, Daniel Kinahan or whatever his name is, putting, 611 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, being at the forefront of trying to make 612 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: this Anthony Joshua Tyson Fury series while he's you know, 613 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: got some blood money going around. I got a couple 614 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: things to say about this overall picture. We have never 615 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: needed these people more. And if you're worried about blood 616 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: money in combat sports, that's in the veins of all 617 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: combat sports forever. Unfortunately it is. How do you think 618 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: people can afford to launch these streaming networks and do things. 619 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: It's a sketchy industry. It just is what it is. 620 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: And I never thought I'd be saying this, But part 621 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: of the reason I'm not mad at UFC going to 622 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi and tricking us with this Fight Island thing 623 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: is maybe that's the only way we can get three 624 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: title fights on a card without a live gate. These 625 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: exorbitant site fees, and we used to get mad when 626 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: Bob Aaron would take many pack out of Macau and 627 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: these pay per views would beyond at weird times, But 628 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: he was getting stupid site fee money to be able 629 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: to pay for everything. We kind of need that right now, Luke. 630 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: So if that Nigerian prince is emailing you, I would 631 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: actually respond back and be like, hey, man, can you 632 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: you know any chance you can help us out getting 633 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: these fights to happen, because without a live gate, that 634 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: is the only way it's gonna work. 635 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: And I may be in a spot where I'm just like, I. 636 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: Don't care where the money comes from. 637 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the point where it gets kind of complicated, 638 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: which is all right. It's one thing to take somebody's 639 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: money that's made a bunch of cash in the oil business, right. 640 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean, as to your point, we've all watched and 641 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: partaken in some kind of way in combat sports that 642 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: has shown a degree of moral relativism. But you go 643 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: back to Abu Dhabi. You know, Dania White keep talking 644 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: about the infratructure being built. Now, we don't know this 645 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 2: to be the case for what is happening on Flight Island. 646 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: I want to be very clear about this. However, what 647 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: we do know is the case on Abu Dhabi more generally, 648 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: and then specifically in other parts of that world, for 649 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: example with the upcoming twenty twenty two World Cup. Again, 650 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: this is not specific to Abu Dhabi in this case, 651 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: but I'm just pointing out they are known for bringing 652 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: in immigrants from Southeast Asia and putting them in absolutely 653 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: horrific human rights conditions. Many of them are dying on 654 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: the job to build infrastructure for things that need to 655 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: be built, whether it's sports or otherwise. Again, I do 656 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 2: not know if that's the case here, but it'd be 657 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: If it wasn't, that would have to be like a 658 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: pivot away from what they normally do. So it's like, 659 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 2: where where do you draw the line. It's one thing 660 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: to take somebody's money who's rich, and okay, well whatever, 661 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: But now we're beginning to get into these territory where like, 662 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: how many compromises do we want to make to get 663 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: the exact same thing you talk about taking Saudi money 664 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: Saudi money. Also, remember what the Saudis are doing. You know, 665 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: they're being involved in the essentially the destruction of Yemen 666 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: and its blockade, which has led to easily easily the 667 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: worst humanitarian crisis right now on Earth, millions uh sort 668 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: of with food and security and in hundreds of thousands 669 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: starving to death. That's not that's not an exaggeration, that's real. 670 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: So It's like, how important is fights to you? I mean, 671 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: in the end, they're gonna do what they're gonna do 672 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: if it's legal, and if it's above board and acknowledge it, okay, 673 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: well it's just gonna go forward. I just think, as 674 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: fight fans, you should know how the sausage is made 675 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: and you should acknowledge it outright. I'm okay with taking 676 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: Saudi money because I don't care about the Yemen and blockade. 677 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: We'll then say it out loud if that's how you feel. 678 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying there's an easy answer. Last thing, 679 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: last thing, I'm not saying there's an easy answer. I'm 680 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: just saying you've got to be honest with where you're at. 681 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if your boy uncle Rams Jenksddan, you know 682 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: that guy ver Doom's friend, if he was suddenly the bankroller, 683 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: would you feel a little bit more? I mean, yeah, 684 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: it does. It is all sketchy, but hey, did you 685 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: enjoy the two thousand and eight Olympics in Beijing? Did 686 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: you enjoy that over elaborate opening ceremony with the drums? 687 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: You want to go and read the stories of how 688 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: they practiced for that and how that whole thing was 689 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: put together and that stadium was made. You're right, Luke, 690 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: all right, blood money's everywhere. Okay, Jay's trying to get 691 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: me off of this. Okay, Jay, why don't you get 692 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: off for once? All right? 693 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: No, it's a fair point. It's a fair point. You're right. 694 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: We talk about, you know, all these people are bad actors, 695 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: then we do all this business in China, and then 696 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: we come to find out, you know, they're horrific. Human 697 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: rights abuse is there, whether they're weigger Muslims or whether 698 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: they're not. So you're right where all of us are guilty, 699 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: me included you, and certainly the viewers as well. All right, 700 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 2: that takes us to the fourth point, BC. I want 701 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: to pitch this one to you. Top Rank is back. 702 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, the one thing I was looking for 703 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: was to get a major commission to establish some COVID 704 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: protocol that everybody could follow. Well, UFC might have been 705 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: the first in Nevada, but Top Rank was right behind. However, 706 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: they had two cards. On Tuesday and Thursday we saw 707 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: Shaker Stevenson back. He demolished somebody that they found for him. 708 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: I forget the guy's name, and they put another card 709 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: on Thursday. Yeah, they put another card in on Thursday BC. 710 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: I thought they looked great visually on TV. They left 711 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: a lot to be desired. Give me the grade for 712 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: the two first top rank events back on ESPN. 713 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, the grade's not good. The grade's not good. 714 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I want to share it. 715 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: It involves a middle fid. They got three fight cards 716 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: this week, by the way, all on ESPN three this week. 717 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 3: I got a larger issue. 718 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Looks just like UFC, somebody has to be first, right, 719 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: so you're always going to criticize, you know, how they 720 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: chose to do it. But we know it's not like 721 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: it's lost on me being an original boxing guy that 722 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, they don't have the UFC's budget, they don't 723 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: have the UFC's control over the whole sport. You're not 724 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: going to see on week one of COVID boxing fights, 725 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: them doing a joint pay per view with you know, PBC. 726 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: I get all of that. There were some things I 727 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: didn't love though about this week. That was really hard 728 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: as a true boxing guy, right, you know your beggars 729 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: can't be cheered, No beggars will be choosers here. Maybe 730 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: I've been spoiled by how hard the UFC has worked 731 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: again a different financial and matchmaking system, but that was 732 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: not really that watchable those last two cards. Yeah, it 733 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: was fun watching the Magdaleno main event and him getting 734 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: punching the balls thirty eight times, But. 735 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: Outside of that, it's like, great presentation. 736 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: Do I need twenty minutes of patting ourselves on the 737 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: back about COVID testing in the bubble and not even 738 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: mentioning that we wouldn't be here if the UFC. 739 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: Did, you know, launch this and take that chance. 740 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: No. 741 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: I didn't love the announcers wearing suits in their living 742 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: rooms separately calling the broadcast whatever. Who cares. Presentation was great, 743 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: great that they're getting back out hopefully just like UFC 744 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: starting things out and everyone following. Maybe the other boxing promoters, 745 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: if they can afford it, will start to do the 746 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: same thing. But Luke, there's already an enornament amount of 747 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: shitty boxing on like national television, because that's just how 748 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: the sport works, right, you know, there's so many separate 749 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: individual business owners and they get a TV contract and 750 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: they kind of for the most. 751 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: Part, keep it in their league. 752 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: But it does nothing to like bang the drums that 753 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: boxing is back and put it on ESPN of all 754 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: places for people to come on and see just awful 755 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: matchmaking and see you know, that first card was like 756 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: four hours and there was like four fights, and three 757 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: of them you know, we're done in the first round 758 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: and you're just stretching it out with propaganda in between. 759 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: It's just not a great representation of what the sport 760 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: can do. So I'm not saying don't come back until 761 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: you're ready to get it right. Okay, maybe I'm saying that, Luke, 762 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: it just wasn't great. It you know, I'm a boxing guy. 763 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: Wasn't entertained. I don't really you know, not pumped up 764 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: to tune in this week. 765 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 3: I love my sport. 766 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: I want to see everybody come back, but I really, 767 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: you know, we would have the same exact criticism. And 768 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: you know this, Luke, right, just like people criticized the 769 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: card last week, the UFC fight night, we would have 770 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: the same exact criticism if UFC came out and just 771 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: gave us horrifically awfully matt fights that were you know, 772 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: not fun that you knew who was gonna win, and 773 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: just tried to parade like, hey, we're back, baby, enjoy it. 774 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: You know, here's the part about it that folks misunderstand 775 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 2: when they when it comes to the criticism of like 776 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: UFC Saturday Show. On paper. Look, you, modern MMA is 777 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: advanced enough, and the UFC has enough control where they 778 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: can pretty much put on any kind of fight card, 779 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: and the chances are you'll get some decent fights, maybe 780 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: even some good ones along the way. It's gonna be 781 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: hard for a UFC card to just outright suck. It 782 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: is possible they do happen, but it's fairly infrequent at 783 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: this point, and that Saturday's card is a testament to that. 784 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: But here's the reality that both UFC and Top Break 785 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: have to face two varying degrees. I understand which is 786 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: the proof's going to be in the putting you and 787 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: I can tell you a card is good or a 788 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: card is bad. If folks don't know who the fighters are, 789 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: or the fights don't have some kind of connection to 790 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 2: to UH, or the fighters themselves wi't have some kind 791 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: of like rivalry or connection, or folks don't have a 792 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 2: way to get invested, the ratings are gonna speak to that. 793 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 2: The ratings for Saturday's fights, I guarantee you they're not 794 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: going to be very good. And as you heard Dana 795 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 2: White talk about the Top Rank cards, the ratings for 796 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: them were even worse. Granted they were on a Tuesday 797 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: and the Thursday as opposed to Saturday, but the point 798 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: still stands. We can say what we want about them, 799 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: but fight fans know, they know what they're in for, 800 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 2: they know what they're not in for. They're going to 801 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: be very selective. To that end, the UFC's problems are 802 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 2: a little bit easier to fix one because they have 803 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: more of the best available fighters that are kind of 804 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: under their control. I don't know how Top Rank gets 805 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: out of this BC, or really any promoter other than 806 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 2: as we indicated, somebody comes in and just absolutely unloads 807 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: a lot of cash. But how do you get the 808 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 2: in between fighters? Okay, it's one thing to get your 809 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: Wilders and your Furies back, and that's huge if you 810 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 2: can actually do it at some point in twenty twenty 811 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,959 Speaker 2: at least, we shouldn't underplay that. That is a big deal 812 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 2: if you can get it. But how do you get 813 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: your Bud Crawford's back. How do you get the guys 814 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: who are very, very talented and get Gate receipts but 815 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: aren't necessarily the world world's biggest draws. How do you 816 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: will see how Showtime, for example, plays out making fights 817 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: with Dravante Davis and other folks like that. Right, these 818 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: kind of people who are on the come up, who 819 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 2: have a following that people care about. But are they 820 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 2: the kind that are going to get Saudi Princess to 821 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: just chuck a bunch of money? It remains to be seen. Right, 822 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: So there's that middle space there, and I don't know 823 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: how boxing's model is going to account for it. The 824 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: reality is, and we've talked about a BC on the 825 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: UFC side, the fact that it's not just that a 826 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: lot of fighters in UFC need the money, although we 827 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 2: should not discount that. Haven't you noticed, BC, that there's 828 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 2: something inside the MMA fighter's mind that's a little bit different. 829 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 2: I've had conversations with folks about this in the combat 830 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: sports space. A lot of them say it probably comes 831 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 2: from being the wrestling background being so ubiquitous inside MMA, 832 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: which is that MMA fighters they don't like to succumb 833 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: to the challenge of outside intervening forces. Oh your plane 834 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 2: was delayed, find a way, Oh there's a pandemic I'm 835 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 2: going to compete no matter what. Oh you're it fell 836 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 2: out last minute. I'll take the change no matter what. 837 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: They just have a certain accommodation for difficulty that a 838 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: lot of other athletes, even inside combat sports don't, and 839 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 2: it really I think helps Dana White keeps the train 840 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: on the tracks. Is that a fair assessment, do you think? Or? 841 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: Am I off a little bit? No? 842 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 3: No, that's fair. 843 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: They also, you know, get paid less on the overall, 844 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: there's one specific promoter that's way above everybody else. So 845 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: there's a major league and minor league in some way, 846 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: although obviously Beltor does very high level cards and there 847 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: are you know, between one and PF. I mean, look, 848 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: there's more competitors than there's ever been. But in some ways, 849 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: it's still like if I get cut from the UFC, 850 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: that may be the end in some ways for me. 851 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: So it's different. I'm just a little bit like, what 852 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: can we do? We can do better matchmaking than we 853 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: saw even in house promotion. Now, look, I don't know 854 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: the financial numbers, so I'm kind of speaking out of 855 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: turning away. But you know, you said in the boxing 856 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: financial what's the solution? Unfortunately, the solution may be something 857 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: that you can't do, which is taking fights that would 858 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: normally be on TV and putting them on pay per view. 859 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: They might a side versus a side, but you know, 860 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: it may be close enough. But the problem is when 861 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: you get somebody like a top rank who has an 862 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: ESPN deal somewhat similar to the UFCS where you have 863 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: to meet a certain amount of dates, right then you're 864 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: kind of challenged to put together a certain amount of 865 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: sub average cards and it's not great. And no, without 866 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: a crazy site foreign site fee, we're not gonna get 867 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: great fights right now unless it goes straight to pay 868 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: per view and they believe that they can get the money. 869 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, like boxing is unlike any other sport, 870 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: meaning where you know, if it's Game one of the 871 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 1: World Series, they don't pause at the seventh thing stretch 872 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: to bring on some rookie leaguers you know, or single 873 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: a guys. And in boxing we do that all the time, 874 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,919 Speaker 1: right We advertise that this great fight is gonna happen, 875 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: but first you much watch these three minor league fights. Normally, 876 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: that doesn't stick out as much when the sporting world 877 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: is going on as a whole, because you can tune 878 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: back into boxing when you know the main event's gonna 879 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: happen if you're not into the whole broadcast. 880 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 3: But now when you're propping these up as the only game. 881 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: In town, it is even a worse time to put 882 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: this fourth. Oh, this is the best boxing has to offer. 883 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 3: Give me a break. That's what makes it hard. 884 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: All right, We go on now to our fifth and 885 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 2: final topic. You know, people can complain about Saturday's card, 886 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: at least on paper. Again, we know it over delivered 887 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: relative to expectations. But I gotta tell you I got 888 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: high expectations for this upcoming Saturday card BC. There are 889 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: a ton of good fights on there. Shout outs to 890 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 2: Josh m versus Shane Burgos by the way, which should 891 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: just be an absolute firecracker. But you can go up 892 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 2: and down that card. I mean, there are a ton 893 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 2: of good fights. The main event to me is really interesting. 894 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 2: Curtis Blade is going to take on Alexander Volkov BC, 895 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: and I gotta tell you I was thinking about this. 896 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: We'll pitch it to you here again one more time. 897 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: What would you say are the stakes? Because here's the context. 898 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 2: I think Blades is ranked third in the heavyweight division, 899 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: the two ahead would be Cormier and Francis, and then 900 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: you've got Volkov, I think, sitting just outside of the 901 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 2: top five around seven. So you think to yourself, Okay, 902 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 2: if Volkov wins, he'll probably jump to the top five 903 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: some fresh blood blah blah blah blah blah. But what 904 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: if Blades wins? Where does he go? So break this 905 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 2: down for me, what does the winner really get here? 906 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you get some you know, for future placement 907 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: higher up the heavyweight rankings. But it's a couple of 908 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: problems here. One, there's you know, look a bit of 909 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: a log gym. We're gonna get DC steep three steep 910 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: Ay August fifteenth, which, by the way, I'm fired the 911 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: hell up that we're getting this during a quarantine. 912 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 3: Two Hell yeah. 913 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, David tease Luke, I know you're 914 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna be angry at this, but he teased, maybe we'll 915 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: get a full arena by then. I don't know if 916 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: the COVID numbers will back that up. But you got that, 917 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 1: you got Francis and Ghanu waiting in the on deck circle. 918 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: We got the unknown element of John Jones moving up. 919 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: So the winner is not gonna necessarily get anything outside 920 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: of if you're VOCALFF, you better be careful you don't 921 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: get us stay busy against in Ghanu by winning this fight. 922 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: Although obviously he's a competitor, he would want that. It's 923 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: just a good main event between you know, top five 924 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: ish guys. Luke, I'm not gonna oversell it. 925 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I actually like Curtis Blade's chances to win. 926 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 2: It's a shame that he lost the rematch with Francis 927 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 2: over in China, however long ago, because honestly, I think 928 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 2: he'd be a really tough fight for Stepey. People might 929 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: laugh at that and tell me I'm crazy. I'm not 930 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 2: saying he'd win, but again, would he be a tough fight. 931 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: I think that he would against Cormier. It's a little 932 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 2: bit harder to say. But Cormier has got one more Againsteepa, 933 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 2: and then he's out anyway, so it's not even really 934 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 2: a relevant concern. The problem is if Blades wins, he 935 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: just literally keeps exactly the same spot. But what is 936 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 2: he supposed to do just not take fights. He's got 937 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 2: bills to pay, he's got a legacy to build, he's 938 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: got a name that he is trying to grow here 939 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 2: against as many oppositions contemporaries as he can, and if 940 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: he wants to headline cards like these are all things 941 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: that he wants to do. He's just in a really, 942 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 2: really tough position to get a third fight with Francis, 943 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 2: especially before Francis if when he gets a title. So 944 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: it's a rough spot for him. But I like the fight, 945 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: I like the matchup, I like the test for both guys. 946 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: I tend to favor Blades to win, but Volkov has 947 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: dramatically improved since his days over in Bellatour. This is 948 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 2: a great fight, and I mentioned BC down the card. 949 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: This is so much better than last weekend's card on paper. 950 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 2: Listen to this, as I mentioned Josh Emmett taken on 951 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 2: Shane Bergos. This is your co main event. Oh my god, 952 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 2: it's so good. Raquel Pennington, Marion Renault, Lyman Good versus 953 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: Balal Mohammed, Jim Miller against Roosevelt Roberts, who's back in action. 954 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,959 Speaker 2: How about this on the prelim card, BC Clay gwed 955 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: to Bobby green Tsha Torres, Brienna Van Buren, Mark Andre 956 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 2: berryl versus Oscar Paijote. Okay, I can skip that one. 957 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 2: Courtney Casey taking on Jillian robertson, Frank Camacho against Matt Ravola, 958 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: Roxane Motaferry against Lauren Murphy, and then Austin Hubbard against 959 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 2: a late replacement Max Roskoff. I mean, this is a great, 960 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: great card on Saturday. We'll it deliver. I guess in 961 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 2: the end we'll see. But you know, compare that to 962 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: the Top rank cards. I'm not even sure I can 963 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 2: name three fights that are happening on Top Rank this week. 964 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing I like about, Like, you know, 965 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: you mentioned that Mata Furry fight that's buried on the 966 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: early prelims. Yet that's kind of like a top five 967 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: content in that flyweight division. And as much as you 968 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: loved or didn't like on paper what Calvio I could 969 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: have given you, I mean that's basically to you know, 970 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: to create a number one or two contender in that 971 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: division as well. So at least the fights have meeting 972 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: and we're getting them. A lot of people I want 973 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: to see on this card. Would you think the winner 974 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: of this fight would either get. 975 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 3: A overream or Derek Lewis? Which one would you prefer? 976 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 2: Oooh, okay, if it's Volkov. If it's Volkov, i'd want 977 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 2: to see. Do you want to see the Lewis rematch? 978 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I do want to see the Lewis 979 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 2: rematch because he got a one in that Hail Mary. 980 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: I guess maybe I would. If it's Blades, I wouldn't 981 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: need to see the overream fight again, the the Derek 982 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: Lewis fight at that point. I guess Derek Lewis sort 983 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 2: of bussed at this point. I'm not sure where exactly 984 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 2: Overeem goes from here, but of course you know, obviously 985 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: he's a top contender as well. Well, what about you. 986 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 3: Give me any of them. 987 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: We're in a really good spot at the heavyweight you know, 988 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: not just the higher end stuff that I mentioned, but 989 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean there are times when you got too many 990 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: Check Congo's and Roy Nelson's in your heavyweight division, and 991 00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: we've been there before. 992 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: Now was a good time. So I kind of like 993 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 3: where these fights are going. 994 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 2: All right, Well that in mind, those are our top 995 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 2: five topics, but plenty of show to go. Now, let's 996 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 2: get to the portion of the show where you ask 997 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 2: us questions. We always put an Instagram post up at 998 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 2: Morning Combat on Instagram the day before people fill it up. 999 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 2: So without further ado, let's go now to DMS from Donks. 1000 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 2: Thanks Jay, good job on that. 1001 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: Jay was busy texting us that are chatting with us 1002 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: live on the show to let us know that Liman 1003 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: Good was also one of his sensays along with your 1004 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 1: ayah hall. I wonder if he hit a spinning back 1005 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: kick on Liman Good though. 1006 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: So you are a Tiger Shulman guy, Jay? Is that? 1007 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 2: It sounds like it? All right? Here we go. Let's 1008 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: get to these first questions that Jay messed up all right? 1009 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: First BC from No Limit Cunning Am, do you think 1010 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns's sudden rise to a title shot were encourage 1011 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 2: fighters in the future to stay active often and or 1012 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 2: take lots of fights on short notice? What do you think? BC? 1013 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't think this is a new theory. 1014 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 1: Right, how do you become I'm not calling Gilbert Burns 1015 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: a company man, but how do you become a man 1016 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: who the company likes to reward? Right? You be willing 1017 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: to take on any challenge possible. You'd be willing to 1018 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: take on fights on short notice, and you'd be willing 1019 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: just to keep taking on, taking on, and that's what 1020 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: this guy has done. And obviously there's something too the 1021 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: idea of staying busy and improving yourself in that regard. 1022 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: We've seeing, you know, Angela Hill turn around her entire 1023 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: career with that. So there, yeah, you know this is opportunity. 1024 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Leon Edward's got got the cold, cold, 1025 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: hard shank hare. 1026 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 3: You know, maybe some of it travel related the or not, but. 1027 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns was hot, he was available, and that's kind 1028 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: of what you need to be. Luke in the phonal ring. 1029 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 2: I'll say this, Listen, this is the one of what's 1030 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 2: one of the most important traits you can have as 1031 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 2: a fighter to get the UFC's favor. It's your willingness 1032 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 2: to say yes, yes too flying overseas, yes to this 1033 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 2: particular matchup, Yes to being ready, yes to whatever they say. 1034 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 2: The door knocks, and the door will knock often and 1035 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 2: early if you let it, particularly in this moment where 1036 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 2: you're seeing lots of fighters recycled over time. Roosevelt Roberts 1037 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 2: Ian Heinisch. Now there's a challenge to that because we 1038 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,240 Speaker 2: saw over the weekend we mentioned Maria Agapova or Agopova 1039 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 2: running through Hannah Ciphers. She had two submission losses back 1040 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 2: to back in a span of weeks, one to Mackenzie 1041 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 2: dern here At one to Agopova. So it doesn't mean 1042 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 2: that every fighter who just takes fights all the time 1043 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: is doing themselves a favor. But if I've heard one 1044 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: consistent complaint from fighters over time, not in the pandemic, 1045 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 2: pre pandemic Sereni notwithstanding, is that they wanted more opportunities. 1046 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: They wanted to compete more. They didn't want to fight 1047 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 2: twice a year, Three or maybe four times a year 1048 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 2: was really what they were looking for more if they 1049 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 2: could squeeze it in, because when they're on the regional scene, 1050 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 2: that's that's what they're doing. You go look at people's 1051 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 2: records when they're coming up on the fighter circuit from 1052 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 2: LFA to CFFC. They're competing five six times a year, 1053 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 2: very routinely. It's not uncommon at all. So they want 1054 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 2: to keep up, maybe not that level of consistency, but 1055 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: something not to where they're competing one or two times 1056 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 2: a year. So yes, Gilbert Burns absolutely took advantage of 1057 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 2: the pandemic where that was supposed to be a leon 1058 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: Ewards's opportunity. He came in there and beat Tyren Woodley 1059 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 2: and then said yes when another guy and jage Maswadal 1060 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 2: said no. So it won't benefit everyone all the time, 1061 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 2: but it will do a lot of favors for yourself, 1062 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. 1063 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Kupac said it best about this, you know, 1064 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: in and out, just like a robber ree, I'll probably 1065 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: be a freak and let you get on top of me. 1066 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 3: UFC will do the same if you're willing. 1067 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 2: All right, This coast was from just mais One just 1068 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 2: mays how can fighters still pull off the towel trick 1069 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 2: at weigh ins? And the commission remained clueless. So for 1070 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 2: folks who may I know BC, he's of course referencing 1071 00:49:54,280 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 2: Jessica I, who apparently whose coach had texted Cynthia saying he, hey, 1072 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 2: Jessica's gonna be three pounds over and then you get 1073 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 2: over there and she's only a quarter pound in the hoop. 1074 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 2: Your hands are supposed to be up, it's supposed to 1075 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 2: be in Monosariba time, and instead what happened was she 1076 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 2: may have been the rumor BC. The theory is that 1077 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 2: she was grabbing onto the hoop to hold it so 1078 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 2: she could not be as heavy. 1079 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 3: What do you think I mean in this case, it 1080 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,399 Speaker 3: didn't matter as much. 1081 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: She still missed weade and couldn't and couldn't you know, 1082 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: fix that and had to pay. But I don't know 1083 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: if I actually saw as much evidence in this case 1084 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: as you know the awful Danielle Cormier buffalo situation ahead 1085 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: of the Rumble rematch. It is an old, dirty trick. 1086 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to avoid that altogether. Whatever, whatever I mean, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1087 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 2: I mean here's the thing. If she had one, I 1088 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 2: would have cared. Listen, she took the final two and 1089 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 2: a half week's notice. I'm gonna be honest, BC, in 1090 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 2: the middle of a pandemic, I'm gonna be a little 1091 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 2: bit more lenient on fighters missing weight. Now I'm less 1092 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 2: lenient on Roberson Robertson because he had two chances for 1093 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,919 Speaker 2: the exact same fight and he still was off even 1094 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 2: with the one pound allowance, by almost four other pounds. 1095 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: So that, to me, I'm not gonna forgive. But he 1096 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 2: lost instead of Jessica I. It's like they lost so 1097 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 2: they don't get half their person. Then they have to 1098 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 2: get the fine on top of it, which I think 1099 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,479 Speaker 2: in certain states goes to the fighter. So justice was served, 1100 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 2: if you ask me. 1101 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: Luke je, I feel bad. I love Jessicay, but she 1102 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 1: just can't seem to get it right. 1103 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 2: You know. We well remember she got a title shot 1104 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 2: off three consecutive split decision and wins, which I don't 1105 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 2: think I've ever seen before. But she got it. So 1106 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 2: you know, listen, she took the fine two and a 1107 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 2: half weeks. Notice, bro, I'm not gonna beat her up 1108 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 2: too bad. I'm just not all right from the drunken Swan. 1109 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 2: What's more weird? BC eating bone in wings with silverware 1110 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 2: or eating boneless wings with your bare hands? 1111 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: Oh well, first of all, I always shout out to 1112 00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: the drunken Swan, one of our best. 1113 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 3: Have you seen this shit provider? 1114 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,959 Speaker 1: But it's I mean, if you eat silverware with bone 1115 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 1: and like, what is wrong with you? 1116 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 3: That's the point. 1117 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: The bone is the handle. Look, it's not pretty right 1118 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,399 Speaker 1: like combat sports. You can't lipstick up that pig. It's 1119 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 1: cage fighting brother eating wings with your hands and holding 1120 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: the damn bone. It's as carnivoric as you can get. 1121 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad that it's still a practice in polite society. 1122 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty. 1123 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: But how dare you right? How dare you attempt to 1124 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: put a fork and knife? I'm fine with boneless with 1125 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: bare hands. Look, I'm fine. Look these are hand foods, Okay, 1126 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to outlaw that. 1127 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 2: I know. 1128 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: Like even when we go out to eat the wife 1129 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: sometimes it's like, hey, kids, since we're out. I know 1130 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: normally you'd eat that with your hands, but since we're out, 1131 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: can you use the fork? 1132 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 3: I don't know whatever. 1133 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 2: I think if you eat, I think if you eat there, 1134 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 2: you couldn't look more out of touch eating a bone 1135 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 2: in wing with silverware if you tried, You're not exactly 1136 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 2: gonna look like you know you belong at finishing school 1137 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 2: if you eat boneless wings with your hands. But can 1138 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 2: you imagine who would eat a bone in wing with silverware? 1139 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 3: Whould eat pizza with silverware? 1140 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: You've seen people do this. There must be communists who 1141 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 1: would eat pizza with sence. 1142 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 2: It's not communists, it's out of touch rich folks. That's 1143 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 2: who it would be, by the. 1144 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 3: Way you want to talk about it, and not a 1145 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 3: touch rich folk. You're gonna love this. 1146 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: I have it on authority from two people that Vince McMahon, 1147 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: the great WWE crazy Man. 1148 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 3: Eats his steak well done and dips it and mustard. 1149 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 2: Do these people not understand the reason why you have 1150 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 2: to put mustard or barbecue or ketchup or whatever it 1151 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 2: is a one that you put on your well done 1152 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 2: steak is because when you cook it well done, you 1153 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,240 Speaker 2: cook out all the flavor and that's why you're putting 1154 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 2: it back on top, because there is none. Do they 1155 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 2: not understand this, BC? I don't understand why that's so 1156 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 2: hard about this. 1157 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 3: I also do want to say there are times for things. 1158 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: So the whole idea of boneless wings, or wait, I'm sorry, 1159 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: the whole idea of wings in general. It's, like I said, 1160 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: it's a messy concept. Don't do it on a date, 1161 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: don't do it at like a corporate launching. You know, 1162 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: there's times you want to avoid that altogether. 1163 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 2: Luke, I was gonna say this, BC, the only eat 1164 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 2: real acceptable way to have utensils and eat with your 1165 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 2: hands at the same time. Crab crab eating. You get 1166 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 2: the you get the newspaper on the on the table, 1167 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 2: you get a little bit of fork, like maybe crack 1168 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 2: open a little bit of the crab. Maybe the pincers 1169 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 2: to pull out the meat, but you still got to 1170 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 2: eat with your hands. You gotta dip it in the butter. 1171 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 2: It's a whole mess. That to me is when you 1172 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 2: can you can cross into both realms and it's okay. 1173 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,240 Speaker 3: I don't mess with crabs, lobsters. 1174 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 2: You know, not a shellfish, no shell you know, crustacean 1175 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 2: kind of guy. 1176 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, reallyrus keep all the crustaceans away 1177 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: from me. 1178 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 3: You know, I'll eat a whitefish, right, you know, But 1179 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1180 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: It's interesting you you don't eat lobster or crab. 1181 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,959 Speaker 1: No, well, I mean, I mean I'll eat a crab cake. 1182 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: I guess. 1183 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not against crab. 1184 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: But I went to a wedding in Maine last summer 1185 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: and you know, it was on the ocean, and we ate, 1186 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, the top shelf lobster. It just it's not 1187 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: I don't like. I mean, it's like, here's the deal. 1188 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 1: For me to like it, I gotta eat. I gotta 1189 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: eat a stick of butter with it. It's like, well, 1190 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: I can't stick a butter right now, you know, I 1191 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: mean I could, I could get you know, I could 1192 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: stick my head down a steers ass, But I'd rather 1193 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: take the butcher's word. No. 1194 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 2: Actually, well you tortured this one to death. Wow, it's 1195 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 2: your bull. Yeah all right, this comes to us from 1196 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 2: our favorite here, Tylrreans BC. Who's your favorite nineties porn 1197 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 2: star female and male? 1198 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: Wow? Well, Luke, it's a loaded question to say male. 1199 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, let's not act like it. You know, Come on, Luca, 1200 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 1: it's a loaded ask question. You want it? Can you? 1201 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a year of our lord twenty twenty. 1202 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm just saying that's a loaded question. 1203 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 3: Okay, you want me to say Rocco? Is that what 1204 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 3: you want? 1205 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 2: Eh? Roco Safreddi boy? Yeah, I mean I've seen I've 1206 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 2: seen police abuse videos that were less violent than some 1207 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 2: of his porn of Like, I'm like Roco, she's she 1208 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 2: is peacefully protesting. Why are you doing that? You don't 1209 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 2: need to be hitting her with your night stick? O. Wait, 1210 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 2: it's not a night stick. 1211 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 3: But the answer to the other half of that is 1212 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 3: the goat Chasey Lane. 1213 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1214 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,240 Speaker 2: Oh well, the answer on the female side is Sylvia 1215 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 2: Saint and that is just you know, I don't know 1216 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 2: how you could possibly compete with that, the thing she 1217 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 2: could hide and her various orifi. 1218 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 3: Is can you keep this clean? 1219 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: Please? There? 1220 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 2: For male, you're right. For male, you're right. So Freddie 1221 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 2: is probably the top of the list. How about honorable 1222 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 2: mentioned to the man who has tried to drown people? 1223 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 2: If you know what I'm trying to say. 1224 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 3: Peter North, late model in the nineties, was still was 1225 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 3: still top shelf. I was a big Janine fan. 1226 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 2: You know, I forgot about Janine? Wasn't she in that 1227 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,280 Speaker 2: Blink one A two video? 1228 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 3: First all yes, the album cover, Yes, with the with 1229 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 3: the glove, Yeah, she. 1230 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 2: Was on the She was in the video too, I think, 1231 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 2: very briefly. Yes. Have you seen how she turned out? 1232 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,879 Speaker 1: I try not to see how any of them turn out, 1233 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: because it's not money. You know, when the lights go 1234 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: up at the end of the night inside the club, 1235 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 1: Luke and you you see who you've been dancing with? 1236 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's weird. 1237 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,280 Speaker 2: Yeah not my all right, Last, but not least, Sony 1238 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 2: Brown breakdown. In the post apocalyptic movie Idiocracy, citizens spend 1239 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 2: their time watching a TV show called al My Balls. 1240 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 2: Given the current state of the world, could that be 1241 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 2: the future of have you seen this shit? 1242 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm not. 1243 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm not woke to all my balls? 1244 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 3: Do you know what's going on here? 1245 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 2: Luke? This was wasn't idiocracy made by the South Park fellows, 1246 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 2: Tree Parker and Metstone? Am I not? Am I wrong 1247 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 2: about that? 1248 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 3: Because I read books? 1249 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 2: No, I think it was idiocracy? Who made it? Oh? No, 1250 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 2: it was Mike Judge. Excuse me, Mike Judge. 1251 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: Wow, Mike Judge, Yes. 1252 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 2: Yes, So the guy I just finished watching Silicon Valley, 1253 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 2: by the way, he made that one. What do you 1254 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 2: think you see? This is your brain child? Is it 1255 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 2: on par with al my balls? 1256 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 3: You know, I haven't seen all my balls, Luke, So 1257 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 3: this is you know, But. 1258 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm guessing the premise. I'm guessing the premise is not 1259 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: difficult to figure out. Beviously, it's probably something on the 1260 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 2: order of. 1261 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: Oh, look, too much of anything is not a good thing. 1262 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: So what I love about how have you seen this shit? 1263 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: Is we have a variety, Luke. 1264 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 3: We don't stay stuck in the dick. 1265 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: Trade, because when you do, Luke, right, if it was 1266 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: all hit to the groins, it not only becomes tiresome, 1267 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: it gets gross after a while. Right, Like you know 1268 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: what the majority of people send me out. They're not 1269 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: sending me phallic anymore. They're sending me like protest fights, 1270 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I'm not gonna celebrate on h y 1271 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: T s ts. You know, like a white guy and 1272 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: a black guy fighting on the streets in a protest like, 1273 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: that's not my you know, that's not fun and games 1274 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: to me. So you can go too far in any direction, Luke. 1275 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 2: Were tired of the black guy's winning or something? Is 1276 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: that a racial comment? 1277 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, first of all, how dare you, Luke? 1278 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I mean I think we know who 1279 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,919 Speaker 2: probably wins most of those. 1280 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, we got we gotta Jay. 1281 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 3: I'll just I mean, it just broke and it's his 1282 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 3: live Jay. 1283 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 2: That's fine though, Just plug it back in. What are 1284 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 2: you doing? Oh, the whole thing just broke. 1285 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,919 Speaker 1: The whole thing broke. The laptop fell over. 1286 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this is what were you doing to make 1287 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 2: it break? Yeah? Just hold the just hold the microphone 1288 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 2: up to your I mean, your computer's all in the way. 1289 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 2: Just hold the microphone up to your face. You're fine, 1290 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 2: we're live guys. Okay, Yes, just hold it to your face. 1291 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 2: You still sound fine? All right? BC? Without further Ado, 1292 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 2: it's your turn to steer the ship, my friend. 1293 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 3: Oh not right now, as my world is falling apart here. 1294 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: This is it. 1295 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 2: You can do it. You can do it, all right. 1296 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 1: Play the intro. 1297 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 3: So here's what we do here. 1298 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: We scour the globe for the good and bad. What'd 1299 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: you say, Jay? 1300 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:33,919 Speaker 2: Get going? You sound fine? 1301 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: Go? Yeah, say it to my face, Jay. All right, 1302 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,439 Speaker 1: we power the globe, you know, the good, the bad, 1303 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: the ugly, the in between. In combat sports, it is 1304 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: have you seen this ish? So here's where we're gonna 1305 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: start this week. Somebody getting sent to hell in real fighting, Luke, 1306 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: let's do it. Load it up. It's uh Bama USA 1307 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: from twenty fifteen. Check out this helbo murder. Luke, have 1308 00:59:55,040 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 1: you seen this ish? Wow? Oh god, the way that 1309 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: guy's leg broke and snap back. 1310 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had the he had the back for a 1311 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 2: minute too, and then it was up on a single 1312 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 2: hand not doing anything. Oh he's underhooking. 1313 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Oh god, oh god, yeah, that is vicious. I don't 1314 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 1: think we should celebrate that. Actually, let's move on. Hey, 1315 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Jeff w g P kickboxing. Uh, look at this stairway 1316 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: to heaven. Step up, koh, maybe stairway to hell. Watch this, Luke. 1317 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh god, that is wow. 1318 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, wow. 1319 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah you got Oh that's a great celebration right there. 1320 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Right Wow. The guy was just sitting here waiting on it. 1321 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 2: Oh double double switched knee. Oh it was just a 1322 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 2: switch knee. 1323 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 3: Yes, I think Ben Astron just rolled over in his grave. 1324 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 1325 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, we're gonna go to Russia. Here. This 1326 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: is called Gromda Fight Club. It's skinhead guys going bare 1327 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 1: knuckle on here. Watch the fall on this Ko. This 1328 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: is brutality. 1329 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 3: One oh one, Luke, I love it. 1330 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Oh, face first, that's when you know they're done. Boy, 1331 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 2: these guys look like this is definitely USADA approved. Huh. 1332 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: They should have had a casket match, have it open, 1333 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: have them fall right into it and just close it, Luke, undertaking. 1334 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Where was this? 1335 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm guessing Russia? I mean it could have been Poland. 1336 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 1: I gotta look it up. What's Gromda Fight. 1337 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 2: Club Groamda Fight Club? I don't know, but it looks 1338 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 2: like my new favorite promotion. 1339 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we may have to get into that. We may 1340 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 1: have to get into that. All right, Hey, we're gonna 1341 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: go from Gramda to Walmart. 1342 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Caught on camera. 1343 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Luke, are you down with this tattooed lady and her 1344 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: choice of Sometimes you just need a shot of love 1345 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: or a shot of mayo? 1346 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Luke? 1347 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 3: What is going on here? I mean I do that, Luke. 1348 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: I buy a bag of chips, I open them before 1349 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: I even get to the car. I've eaten a whole 1350 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: bag of chips on the drive home from grocery shopping. 1351 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 2: But I'm trying. I'm trying not to yack. 1352 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't take shots of ranch dressing here. I mean, 1353 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, but god, well, you know what. 1354 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 2: It seems very out of character. She seems like such 1355 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 2: good shape. 1356 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 3: Oh I mean, don't don't don't fat Chamberlke. 1357 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: Come on, I mean, seriously, what are we doing here? 1358 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 2: Right? 1359 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 1: Wow? Okay? 1360 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 3: He speaking of Walmart. Check Out this mullet guy. 1361 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 1: Look, everybody's trying to beat the twist top challenge, whatever 1362 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: you want to call it. Check Out this guy using 1363 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: the party in the back so he can celebrate the 1364 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: business rubbins racing, Luke. 1365 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Yes, right, this man is officially the mascot of MK. 1366 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 1: Look at this. 1367 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 2: Look at this is Americana right there in turn four. 1368 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 1: Look at this guy? Yeah? Wow, it looks like beautiful 1369 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 1: Bobby Eaton, remember from pro wrestling in the eighties, Luke, 1370 01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: back when you have a soul. No, all right, hey, 1371 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: let's go to the hardwood. Let's do some ankle breaking. 1372 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 1: Check out this white dude just getting sent to hell. 1373 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Get out the way you get out the way yo 1374 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: got dropped. 1375 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 2: Oh no, he was killing everybody there. 1376 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 3: I know. 1377 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: The problem is you got to make the shot after that, right, 1378 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: you gotta get. 1379 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 2: He kills the white guy, kills the black guy. Oh 1380 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 2: how did he not take the shot there? Who is 1381 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 2: defending him? 1382 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 3: I know Hot Sauce would have shot that, right. 1383 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Huh? 1384 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a great crosses twice? Does it twice? 1385 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 2: You gotta see Michael Jordan would have taken this shot. 1386 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 3: I was gonna he's gotta dump that, Luke. 1387 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta dump. 1388 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 2: That thing, right, dude. That is such a missed opportunity 1389 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 2: for coolness. 1390 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: Hey, let's take ankle breaking into the lunch room. Luke, 1391 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Oh stop it, Jay Jay's all right. Here we go 1392 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: in the lunch room. Check out this cross so oh no, God, 1393 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: take take a drink, Take a drink. Cool off here. 1394 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 2: This is this is this is my entire and there 1395 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 2: is he air bowling it like around the waist. 1396 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what's happening. Yes, look 1397 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: he like. 1398 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 2: He like feigns like it's going between his legs and 1399 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 2: then around like that. 1400 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Oh good lord. 1401 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is my entire I moved around 1402 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 2: a lot as a kid, so I was constantly the 1403 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 2: new kid, and so this is basically my entire schooling. 1404 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 2: Uh life here trying to make new friends right here? 1405 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 2: Oh no, look nice, try nice, try, but look what is. 1406 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: The grandpa equivalent of abuela in Spanish? All right, somebody 1407 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: get a boilo out of the paint. When you reach 1408 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 1: a certain age, Luke, you can't hoop anymore. Okay, you 1409 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: can't do it anymore, Jake, can you fast forward to 1410 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: the next slide? Check out this guy's just get team 1411 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,240 Speaker 1: backed into the deep dark deb somebody scoop u bueilo 1412 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: off the canvas. 1413 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,439 Speaker 2: There waw guy to get a spatula for that one gee. 1414 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Back in day, Luke, he could ball, you know what 1415 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Back back in the aba, he could ball, 1416 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 1: but not anymore. 1417 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah he was. 1418 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 2: He was used to playing when it was only guys 1419 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 2: on the court. He was dunking on them. How how 1420 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 2: times have changed? 1421 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 3: All right, Hey, let's roll on. 1422 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Look, you know you fat shamed that lady earlier, but 1423 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 1: fat people can do incredible things. Watch this and watch 1424 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: the people on the side. Just get him fired the heck. 1425 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Luke, Yes, I mean he'll. 1426 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 2: Never I can't do that. I can't do that. 1427 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 3: He'll never walk again or have children. But that's impressive, Luke. 1428 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 2: Wow, and they were sized. Is this some kind of 1429 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 2: CrossFit Jim. 1430 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's I don't think he's a member, 1431 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: but this is very impressive, Luke. 1432 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 2: You know what old Biggins there, he's got some moves. 1433 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:40,919 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. 1434 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 1: Do you see chub Rock's face at the end. Is 1435 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:43,919 Speaker 1: that celebration or paint? 1436 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Look at him, he like he like nods his 1437 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 2: head like you're yeah yeah that. 1438 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 3: Look at that Guy's like I gotta call nine one one. Wow? 1439 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 2: This, well, you know what, he probably has to do 1440 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 2: this to pee? 1441 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,959 Speaker 1: All right, we got shut down after that. Hey, let's 1442 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 1: roll on here, your selfie the yourt your hot chick 1443 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 1: selfie of the week gone wrong, Luke. Look at Karen 1444 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: Hare with a glass of wine. She's trying to get 1445 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,479 Speaker 1: the right pulk. Got a little on you there? Yeah, 1446 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, I got. 1447 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 2: A I did this. I did this one time. I 1448 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 2: got home one time and I was drunk as a skunk, 1449 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,680 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm gonna have one more. And I 1450 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 2: sat on the couch and I put it here on 1451 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 2: my chest, and I remember I had fallen asleep and 1452 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 2: I tried to catch it, and I woke up and 1453 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 2: I just basically wore the entire thing she did. Her 1454 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 2: excuse is I don't know, but mine. I was drunk. 1455 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1456 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 3: I've seen movies where they had scenes like this, but 1457 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 3: it wasn't wine. 1458 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: Luke. 1459 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 3: All right, let's roll on here, Luke, let's go to 1460 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 3: the gym. You love Jim videos. 1461 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: Okay, check out the Luke. 1462 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 3: Tell me, is this a viable way to work your triceps? 1463 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 2: It'd be your this is a hammer curl, so that 1464 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 2: would be your out your brachialis and then your forearm. 1465 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 3: Is that is that t on T there? 1466 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 2: Luke, that's a little bit of t. 1467 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm into that. The rock in 1468 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 1: the background, wow, okay, yeah, yeah, brother, all right. 1469 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 2: Of course it's Russia. Though, Yeah, this is about the 1470 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 2: worst way possible to do hammer curls. 1471 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 3: If you curl me that way, Luke, you're your powerlifter. 1472 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 2: No, No, you would be. You'd be a little too heavy. 1473 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,440 Speaker 2: This gentleman to our left here is a small fry. 1474 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 2: He's cut up small boxing. 1475 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Cup as well. 1476 01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 2: Luke. 1477 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want any kind of contact, right. 1478 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 2: I would have to wear No, if we did this, 1479 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 2: I'd have to wear that shield they give you when 1480 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 2: you go to the dentist before you get into the 1481 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 2: X ray machine. I don't want to get anywhere near you. 1482 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 1: Look what's Spanish for dog? Pero pero. Check out this 1483 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,280 Speaker 1: pedal take a bite out of crime. I don't know 1484 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,919 Speaker 1: if it's Taco Tuesday, Luke, but check this thing out 1485 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 1: coming up right here. 1486 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 2: Wow, Oh that dog is the best. 1487 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yes see. I like when people are, you know, 1488 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 1: posting very self selfies that are very vain, that are 1489 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 1: very Look at me, I drink wine on a nice couch, 1490 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm in shape, I got abs. Look at me, and 1491 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: then the dog is just having none of it. 1492 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm scared to make the comment that I want to 1493 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 2: make for fear of cancelation, but I want you to 1494 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 2: know I'm thinking about that comment. 1495 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you very much. Jay, don't throw to 1496 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:15,120 Speaker 3: the next one yet. 1497 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: I got a little intro here. 1498 01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 3: It is graduation Sison, Luke. 1499 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Luke, in your yearbook, did you have a senior quote? 1500 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 2: I don't think so, but I can't remember. But I 1501 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 2: know what you're talking about. So why do you bring 1502 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 2: it up? 1503 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 1: Well? I wasn't allowed to class in ninety six Noggic 1504 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: High School because you remember that nineteen ninety five Greenwich 1505 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 1: High debacle when all those white kids did like the 1506 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: two or three letters as their senior quote and you 1507 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 1: put it all together and it was something hugely racist. 1508 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: My high school was like, no, can't, you can't do that. 1509 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,400 Speaker 1: So what I missed out on doing ultimately was probably 1510 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 1: some shitty Beatles lyric or like, you know, some flood 1511 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Zeppelin thing or something lame. Right, It would have been 1512 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: lame in hindsight, but some people really put some time 1513 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: and energy, Luke. Would your would yours have been something, 1514 01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, some Winston Churchill quote about you know, overcoming 1515 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: and war. What is it good for? 1516 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Something something stupid that I barely understood, but thoughts 1517 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,599 Speaker 2: sounded smart. Yes, probably all. 1518 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Right, let's let's let's let's go around the horn and 1519 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 1: see what the kids are doing nowadays. 1520 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 3: Check out Connor Heart here to kick off. 1521 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Happy graduation to him, Luke, waking up is the second 1522 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 1: hardest thing in the morning. 1523 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be fun showing that to your kids. 1524 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the first is? All right, let's move 1525 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 1: on here. I believe this is an older one, probably 1526 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 1: from the fifties, Luke, Sebastian Martin checking in with you 1527 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: have a lovely voice. 1528 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 3: I'd love to hear it coming from my basement. 1529 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 2: That's photoshopped. 1530 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fake. I may put the lotion in the basket. Indeed, 1531 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 3: it's fake. Let's go let's move on here. What do 1532 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:45,360 Speaker 3: you got here? 1533 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: What else you got? Jay? 1534 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 2: Anytime? Jay? 1535 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a live show. The microphone fell apart, 1536 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 1: but that's fine. Oh apparently the the s is silent. Luke, 1537 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: I know what you wanted to say right there, right, 1538 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 1: but shout out to parikshit just the same, right, great guy, 1539 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,679 Speaker 1: great guy. Let's wrong. We want to recognize all different 1540 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 1: cultures on have you seen this ship this week? 1541 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:13,480 Speaker 2: Luke? You know I'm not sure that she played that one, well. 1542 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,840 Speaker 1: Well done, but some people put poetry but below their name. 1543 01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 1: Shout out to Nick Jenkins here on the next one, 1544 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,760 Speaker 1: can you hit the button? Jay? Thank you. Roses are red, 1545 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 1: violets are blue. I'm black, you know what I mean. 1546 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 1: Loud and proud, loud and proud. I'm in on that, 1547 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,040 Speaker 1: all right. Hey, let's Max Crankshaw. He may he may 1548 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 1: have won this, Luke, you want to read this one. 1549 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 2: I like my coffee like I like my women. I 1550 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 2: don't like coffee. All right, Max is Max? 1551 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,599 Speaker 1: Uh? 1552 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I see Max is uh. Max says a lot 1553 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,759 Speaker 2: of pride, is what you're saying. 1554 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 3: I did. 1555 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 1: I did follow up. He is a real person. He's 1556 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: he's uh and he does any Instagram. Uh bio it 1557 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: says I happen to drink coffee. Now, I'm not kidding. 1558 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 3: I'm a hundred percent. Shout out to Max right there. 1559 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 1: That is fun. All right, we're gonna close. I think 1560 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 1: this is the winner. Shout out to Dustin Kats. Yeah, 1561 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 1: I'm I mean, you know we've all thought about this, right, Luke. 1562 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 2: Two in the Pink and one in the Stink. Life 1563 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 2: is an adventure explore. 1564 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 1: Yep. 1565 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 3: I think that's called the Turkey. 1566 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 2: Luke, Dustin. Dustin is not a smart man. Dustin has 1567 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 2: probably had a couple of DUIs in his life. 1568 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 3: I would, I would, yeah, you know, I mean you don't. 1569 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: You can't look at somebody and say he choked the bitch, 1570 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 1: but you know you might want to in this case 1571 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 1: shout out to Dustin there, Luke, you know, all right, 1572 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: they're great. Hey, sometimes we win, sometimes we lose in 1573 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 1: the show, Luke, have you seen all that shit? 1574 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 2: I have seen all of that ship you see? Okay, 1575 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 2: my good friend. By the way, I looked up grom 1576 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 2: To Fight Club. It looks like it's Polish. It looks 1577 01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 2: like it's Polish. Uh okay. With that in mind, we're 1578 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,080 Speaker 2: now doing odds and ENDSBC Odds and Ends. What do 1579 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 2: you got for. 1580 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 3: Once you go first? 1581 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 2: Y put the studio back together? All right, I will 1582 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 2: go first. You had mentioned it earlier. Dana White was 1583 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,799 Speaker 2: said that he had not given an announcement for an example, 1584 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 2: for the August and then it was reported these September fights, 1585 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 2: so that would be stepe A and DC three and 1586 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 2: then Justin and Kebebe. He had not given a venue 1587 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 2: for it. Now he said, of course, if we have 1588 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 2: to We could just give it obviously for the APEX, 1589 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 2: but he was going to have a wait and see 1590 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 2: approach on whether or not we could have fans now 1591 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 2: depending on where he wants to put it. That is 1592 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,520 Speaker 2: not as crazy as it might sound. There are countries 1593 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 2: that did not have a tremendous outbreak that appear to 1594 01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 2: be now on the other side of things. So, for example, 1595 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 2: New Zealand hasn't had a positive COVID case in over 1596 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 2: three weeks. They appear to be for now anyway, on 1597 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 2: the other side of it, if you wanted to go there, 1598 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 2: you could do that. But if you wanted to have 1599 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 2: it for a pay per view, chances are they're going 1600 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,920 Speaker 2: to have it in North American territory. Again, chances are, 1601 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 2: and if that's the case, I listen, nobody knows exactly 1602 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,639 Speaker 2: where we're gonna be next month or August, or the fall, 1603 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 2: or the winner or for you know, we just know 1604 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 2: one really actually knows. We just have our best guesses. 1605 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 2: But from South Carolina all the way to Texas and 1606 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 2: all the way to California, most of those states I 1607 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 2: just mentioned, including Florida, Texas, California, have had peak number 1608 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 2: of positive COVID cases. Is it a related to the reopening, 1609 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,720 Speaker 2: is it related to anything else? Again, these are all 1610 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 2: very debatable. Are they going to get worse than they 1611 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 2: are right now? I don't know. I'm just gonna say, 1612 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 2: if you want to have fans, you got to go 1613 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,719 Speaker 2: to a place that's already beat it, not a place 1614 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 2: that did not do a great job of addressing it, 1615 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 2: which is this place. So that's my thought. BC. What 1616 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,640 Speaker 2: about you. 1617 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: We heard this, you know front page News last week 1618 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,679 Speaker 1: and boxing, you know Eddie Hearn coming out. We've created 1619 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 1: a two fight deal, Tyson Fury versus Anthony Joshua. 1620 01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 4: Oh, you know, a deal has been agreed. We've agreed 1621 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 4: on the financials. It's bullshit, Luke and and it was 1622 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:08,759 Speaker 4: irresponsibly spoken and produced and sorry reported on and headlines 1623 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 4: were made and here's the deal they may have gotten 1624 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,599 Speaker 4: together and Tysian Fury and Instagram video praised this controversial fella. 1625 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 4: Daniel Kinahan of MTK Global his manager, for you know, 1626 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 4: being on the center of these negotiations. 1627 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 1: But this is basically like saying, hey, you know what 1628 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 1: would be a great NBA Finals, right? 1629 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,480 Speaker 3: How about the Lakers against the Sixers. 1630 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 1: But only if they both make it there, and if 1631 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 1: they do, we gotta we got a deal for a 1632 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 1: seven fight, seven game series, and it's gonna be fantastic. 1633 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Both have two mandatory opponents they need to face. First, 1634 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: Fury's got to fight Wilder again of all people, and 1635 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 1: Dillian White, and you know, Joshua's got Kubra Pulev and 1636 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 1: Alexander Usik. So not only are we looking at time, 1637 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 1: we are looking at the potential of having to pay off, 1638 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 1: which gets expensive for people to step aside, and you 1639 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 1: gotta win. You know, probably at least one, if not 1640 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 1: both of those to come out and say Summer twenty 1641 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 1: one two fight series fifty to fifty split like save me, 1642 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,000 Speaker 1: spare me that. 1643 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 2: Okay, And so then why did they do it? 1644 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 1: A couple of different things attention. You know, I'm sure 1645 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 1: it's boxing, so I'm sure there's some underlying pressure, sinister 1646 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:31,879 Speaker 1: element to it. I'm certainly not against obviously this fight happening. 1647 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 1: It's the biggest heavyweight fight you can make. It's one 1648 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: of the biggest in the whole sport. It's the biggest 1649 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 1: in British history. It's the potential of all four titles 1650 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,040 Speaker 1: on the line and have an undispeted champion, but like, 1651 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: we are so far away from it even happen. It's 1652 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,759 Speaker 1: not like what we did in the Fury Wilder rematch 1653 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,600 Speaker 1: where we were like, okay, wild there's got to be 1654 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,719 Speaker 1: Ortiz first. But if that happens, we're good. We're gonna 1655 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 1: get this everything signed. There's a lot that has to happen. 1656 01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 1: So it just seems very irresponsible for Herning Company come 1657 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 1: out and flaunt and promote that when. 1658 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,960 Speaker 3: You would do this fight because you have the potential 1659 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 3: of all four belts at stake. 1660 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,240 Speaker 1: There's no I mean, we saw Anthony Joshua get knocked out, 1661 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 1: there's you know, we've seen Tyson Fury just disappear like it. 1662 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,639 Speaker 1: To come out and announce that as something that's rock 1663 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 1: solid is just ridiculous. 1664 01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 2: Well leave it to boxing to do something ridiculous. Hey, 1665 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 2: b C, have you paid attention to any of this 1666 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 2: stuff related to the NBA? And then college athletes, here's 1667 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 2: what I mean. So some of these like student athletes 1668 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,960 Speaker 2: at these major universities for football are reporting to voluntary practice. 1669 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you can ask whether it's voluntary or not, 1670 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 2: but they are, and I think I forget what school was. 1671 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 2: It was a major D one program that had six 1672 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,760 Speaker 2: tests positive for COVID overnight, so they had to kind 1673 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,479 Speaker 2: of like halt it for just a moment. And then 1674 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 2: on the other side it wasn't so much a COVID concern. 1675 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,200 Speaker 2: But you have like Kyrie Irving Arts Showtime Zone Stephen 1676 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:56,120 Speaker 2: Jackson saying, you know, there shouldn't be a season. How 1677 01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 2: much sports are there going to be in the fall 1678 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,640 Speaker 2: for different reasons, all all kinds of different things. On 1679 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 2: the COVID side, are they just going to roll through 1680 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,479 Speaker 2: it because they're making those student athletes sign those waivers 1681 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 2: not dissimilar from what the UFC made people signed in Jacksonville, 1682 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 2: Like if you get it, it's on you kind of 1683 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 2: a thing. It's not the situation for the NBA. But 1684 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,680 Speaker 2: like now they're saying, do we really want to do this? 1685 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,599 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm and in baseball we talked 1686 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,400 Speaker 2: about earlier. They can't seem to work out a deal. 1687 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,719 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I don't know how many sports 1688 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:21,719 Speaker 2: are going to be there in the fall. 1689 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,559 Speaker 1: I don't mean to be a doom is Coming Luke 1690 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 1: Thomas type guy, but the whole idea of a you know, 1691 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 1: second wave of COVID this fall, you know, late fall 1692 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 1: during flu season, and the idea of everything that we've 1693 01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 1: done successfully to reopen could get slam shut and closed again. Yes, 1694 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 1: I want to win my bet of full arenas by 1695 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,880 Speaker 1: February of twenty twenty one, and I certainly think it's possible. 1696 01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, And it's interesting here. It's something that 1697 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 1: you and I said when we originally talked about fighter paid. 1698 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 1: The whole idea of like what's right is for these 1699 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 1: guys to get paid well. But there's potential that for 1700 01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,599 Speaker 1: that to happen. You could see a lockout. You could 1701 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 1: see you know, fighters holding out, you could see poor 1702 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 1: matchmaking in order to make this happen, things that we 1703 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,639 Speaker 1: don't want to see. It kind of sucks that because 1704 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 1: of UFC structure, it's actually the best way for fans 1705 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,040 Speaker 1: to see this stuff. Where we're seeing baseball, you know, 1706 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: it's so unionized and so set up to let the 1707 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 1: players have a voice that you. 1708 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,240 Speaker 3: Know, things can get in the way, seasons can get canceled. 1709 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 1710 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, Luke, I don't know what's going to 1711 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:26,639 Speaker 3: happen this fall. 1712 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of assumed from the beginning, to 1713 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 1: be honest, that fights would continue to go on because 1714 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,679 Speaker 1: fight people that fight are you know, sort of naturally 1715 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,280 Speaker 1: reckless to begin with. And it seems like, you know, 1716 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 1: when you don't have the giant players associations, you don't 1717 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 1: have this hold up. But it's interesting because you know, 1718 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 1: tying into the to the whole thing about unions and stuff. 1719 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:47,599 Speaker 3: We saw Dana White on. 1720 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 1: That first Take interview where he was really challenged what 1721 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 1: was the name of the x NFL. 1722 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 2: Player who is oh uh, Dominique Foxworth, who did a 1723 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,599 Speaker 2: great job in being honest and saying, look, I don't 1724 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 2: have all the details. 1725 01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 1: Maybe this is the debate I can't win. But you know, 1726 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 1: why are you kind of dismissive? And here's the thing 1727 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 1: about Dana, like, say what you will about the fighters' 1728 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,800 Speaker 1: rights and the whole idea of a potential fighters association, 1729 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't he rarely ever addressed is the actual topic 1730 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:17,160 Speaker 1: you bring up, the disparity over fighter payer, the you know, 1731 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,320 Speaker 1: the anger of the fighters, and it's always sort of like, well, 1732 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 1: these guys got an eight fight deal, what do you 1733 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 1: want me to do? It's always deflect, deflect, deflect. It 1734 01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,719 Speaker 1: was good to see him in this one spot challenge. 1735 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 1: But Luke, you heard his answer about you know, fighter Union, 1736 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 1: Well that's on them and good luck to them, and 1737 01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's a certain element to that. But also 1738 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:38,960 Speaker 1: we are lucky in a sort of interesting way that 1739 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:39,840 Speaker 1: we don't have that. 1740 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 3: So these fights can go on. 1741 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 1: UFC may still be the only game in town come 1742 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 1: August or September. Luke, you just don't know. 1743 01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,479 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you. I'm when they made that deal 1744 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 2: for the NBA to go over to Disney World, I 1745 01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 2: was like, all right, well there's gonna be basketball. To 1746 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,760 Speaker 2: be short lived, but they'll be basketball. I don't know, 1747 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,559 Speaker 2: and I don't know what the hell college sports are 1748 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 2: going to do. I'm guessing some of them will happen. 1749 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 2: Maybe all of them wi happen. Again, I'm not making 1750 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:05,240 Speaker 2: a declaration. It's just I don't know. The good news 1751 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,040 Speaker 2: about UFC and combat sports and boxing is it's it's 1752 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 2: strangely simpler, and so because it's simpler, it's just it's 1753 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 2: just much more ready made for our current era when 1754 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 2: you have teams and student athletes and unions and everything else. 1755 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,639 Speaker 2: Jesus it's gonna be a show, Come come to Fall. Yeah. 1756 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's going something to pay attention to, though, 1757 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 2: because it might the UFC might be the only game 1758 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 2: in town for a while. 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Hey, look real quick, you know we were 1784 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:43,120 Speaker 1: conditioned now to watch really interesting documentaries on Sunday nights. 1785 01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,800 Speaker 1: From Jordan to Lance. The Undertaker thing had been going on. 1786 01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 1: It's been pretty good. You see this Maguire Sosa crap. 1787 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,840 Speaker 1: Why does Sammy Sosa look like he's a wax figure. 1788 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 3: In a museum? 1789 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,719 Speaker 2: Bro I was saying this before. It's like he didn't 1790 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,840 Speaker 2: just bleach his skin, which, by the way, to Jeremy 1791 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,360 Speaker 2: Shaff he did not deny. He acknowledged a yad and 1792 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 2: then he asked him why and his answer was, well, 1793 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,360 Speaker 2: this was a previous interview, not the one from last night. 1794 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,120 Speaker 2: He had said, Eh, it makes me happy. Okay, fair enough. 1795 01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 2: I mean that's his right, no doubt about it. But 1796 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:13,200 Speaker 2: it didn't just like change his skin tone. It changed 1797 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:18,000 Speaker 2: his skin. He didn't. He didn't look right, and the 1798 01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,560 Speaker 2: documentary kind of sucked because they didn't get to the 1799 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 2: most interesting part about steroids till later. And then they 1800 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,720 Speaker 2: tried to bury bonds at the end and it it 1801 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 2: just didn't work for me. It's like, dude, I remember 1802 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 2: I was a freshman. I was in boot camp when 1803 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,639 Speaker 2: all that was happening BC. I went to boot camp 1804 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,519 Speaker 2: on June ninth, and I graduated August twenty eighth, okay 1805 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,080 Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety eight that summer, and I remember when 1806 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 2: I got home, they were nearing what was it, the 1807 01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,880 Speaker 2: fifty sixty seventy mark in home runs for that year, 1808 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 2: if you recall, and that was one of the most 1809 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,840 Speaker 2: exciting things to watch in sports. I'll just say it 1810 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,760 Speaker 2: out loud. Listen. Every sports athletes have to make their 1811 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,479 Speaker 2: own choice. Every sport is different. For me, I didn't 1812 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 2: have any problem with steroids in baseball. Bob Costas was 1813 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 2: crying in this documentary, Bob, grab a tissue, buddy. It 1814 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,320 Speaker 2: ain't that serious. I loved it, loved it. 1815 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 1: Nobody likes to see their their beloved baseball records broken, Okay, 1816 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's why. 1817 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 2: I mean, these baseball fans the religiosity that they impose 1818 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,679 Speaker 2: on baseball like it's some kind of fucking sanctified game. 1819 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 2: This is the game of Ty Cobb, motherfucker. Please let 1820 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,720 Speaker 2: them do steroids and all the tobacco they want. What 1821 01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,640 Speaker 2: do I care? The ballflies further over the head and 1822 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,360 Speaker 2: makes it exciting? Wow? How am I going to sleep 1823 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:33,800 Speaker 2: this night? 1824 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 1: You know what's the difference between steroids and baseball and 1825 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,439 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle staying out all night and then eating like 1826 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,520 Speaker 1: a handful of amphetamines on the way into the clubhouse. 1827 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 2: In the morning. Nothing? Nothing, absolutely nothing. 1828 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:49,040 Speaker 3: So and if you get some greenies, actually some greenees. 1829 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 2: For this show, right, maybe it'll boost ratings or something, 1830 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,280 Speaker 2: then you know what, it might It absolutely might all 1831 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,759 Speaker 2: right BC uh, Well, appreciate everyone. 1832 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,719 Speaker 1: Now you got another You got another job, right. 1833 01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:01,000 Speaker 2: I do have another job? Yes, appreciate everybody watching. Again, 1834 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,240 Speaker 2: Thanks to everyone who has subscribed. If you have it, 1835 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 2: please do it already for Malca for showtime for my 1836 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 2: man Brian Campbell. I'm Luke thomasin until next time, all 1837 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:10,719 Speaker 2: of your gains. 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