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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday morning, February twenty third year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. I'm Josh Pate. This is the Late

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Speaker 2: Kick Extra podcast to bring it to you twice a week.

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Speaker 2: It is wall to wall Q and A. We got

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Speaker 2: some really juicy questions this morning. Looking really forward to

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Speaker 2: getting to it. I've also got a request. I got

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Speaker 2: a couple of them, actually one you've never heard before.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be fun. Got a lot of ideas

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Speaker 2: Been toying with it my head, and naturally, whenever I

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Speaker 2: have an idea that I think is decent, I just

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Speaker 2: toss it to you. Guys. When it gets tossed back

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Speaker 2: to me gets made all the better. So stay tuned

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Speaker 2: for that as usual. Joshpat seven zero six at gmail

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Speaker 2: dot com. That's one way you can submit a question.

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Speaker 2: Another way is follow me on Twitter at Late Kick Josh.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, we are right on the precipice. I

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Speaker 2: think we're like seven or six people short of thirteen

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Speaker 2: thousand on Twitter. When we get there, no sweat, take

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Speaker 2: your time. I got a lot of time. When we

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Speaker 2: get there, we are recording via zoom, which will mean

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Speaker 2: a video product of it. We are recording a very

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Speaker 1: It's going to be you guys and me.

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Speaker 2: I may end up sitting on my couch like I

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Speaker 2: am right now by the way with a new microphone

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Speaker 2: and just lean back and we're just going to talk,

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Speaker 2: I think, to see some of what I've been doing

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Speaker 2: with some of you in those one on one zoom consultations.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you know, we're talking about career advice. Sometimes we're

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Speaker 2: talking about how to build a YouTube channel, but oftentimes

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Speaker 2: it just delves into conversation, a lot of college football

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Speaker 2: based conversation. Well, I've listened to that and I've thought

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Speaker 2: more than once, man, this hald make a half decent show.

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Speaker 2: So let's do it. Get me to thirteen thousand. When

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Speaker 2: we get over that, which could be today, at some point,

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Speaker 2: so everyone's gonna have a shot to get in on this,

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Speaker 2: and it may not be the only one we do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: don't believe in it around here. There is no off season.

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Speaker 2: It's not real, doesn't exist, and so this is one

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Speaker 2: of the many ways that we can make it go

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Speaker 2: by quicker. I got some good questions this morning, and

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Speaker 2: You guys are gonna have to help me out. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be really, really involving you, So stay tuned

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Speaker 2: for that. Let's dive in, though, and waste no time.

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Speaker 2: Corey leads us off this morning. He says, out of

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Speaker 1: If you were to go to UC Berkeley were to

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, I don't think that we have

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Speaker 1: How are you about to enforce that?

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Speaker 2: and I loved the off season. There's this window, two

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Speaker 2: always improves. But also you have the camp circuit, so

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Speaker 2: guys come in more ready to compete. But don't kid yourself.

433
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,440
Speaker 2: College offenses and really just college schemes overall have been

434
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Speaker 2: streamline to get the best players on the field early.

435
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,560
Speaker 2: And the reason I bring that up is because now

436
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 2: the game is tailored towards being simplified to the point

437
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 2: of being able to get guys on the field early. Well,

438
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,959
Speaker 2: if that's the case, then more and more you can

439
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 2: look around the world at elite athletes from Germany or

440
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,919
Speaker 2: Australia or wherever the case may be, Eastern Europe, and

441
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Speaker 2: you may say, well, wait a second, why should we

442
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Speaker 2: limit ourselves to just recruiting the lower forty eight and

443
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Speaker 2: maybe occasionally kicking it out to Hawaii. I don't know

444
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 2: that many kids come from Alaska. Why wouldn't we go

445
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,360
Speaker 2: check out Puerto Rico? Why wouldn't we go check out

446
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,679
Speaker 2: South Africa? Like? What stops us from doing that? Well,

447
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,159
Speaker 2: I can tell you budgetarily what may stop you from

448
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Speaker 2: doing it. But you know, I wouldn't shock me five

449
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,360
Speaker 2: years from now if we're watching one of these big

450
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Speaker 2: programs like Texas or like Miami or Alabama or someone

451
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 2: like that, and what if they were to have a

452
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Speaker 2: South African kid on their roster?

453
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Speaker 1: What if they were to and I'm talking about kids

454
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Speaker 1: they went.

455
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Speaker 2: To South Africa or to Germany or you know, to

456
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Speaker 2: the far rea of the globe to get That's just

457
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Speaker 2: kind of an interesting little side note here TV, because

458
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Speaker 2: I know you didn't ask me about international recruiting, but

459
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Speaker 2: I was having a conversation the other day and my

460
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Speaker 2: first instinct when someone asked me why don't colleges go

461
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Speaker 2: international to recruit? I said, Oh, they just don't. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 2: But that's not the question. The question was why don't they?

463
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Speaker 2: And budget is obviously one reason. There are plenty enough

464
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: players here, but you know there's always been plenty enough

465
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Speaker 2: baseball players here too. What if there's just pockets of

466
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,679
Speaker 2: talent that happened to reside in Laredo, Texas, and you

467
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 2: want to go get them. Well, baseball went to Latin America.

468
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: I mean baseball went to Cuba. Well, I don't necessarily

469
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: know that. You know, the Latin American kids are ever

470
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Speaker 2: going to be a hotbed of college football recruiting talent.

471
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Speaker 2: But you never know, because there are elite athletes all

472
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Speaker 2: over the world wherever there are humans among that population,

473
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Speaker 2: if it's any size, there're gonna be some really good

474
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Speaker 2: athletes there.

475
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Speaker 1: So just a little side note to think about.

476
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Speaker 2: If it ever does happen, I just want you to

477
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Speaker 2: trace it back here and remember that we were at

478
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Speaker 2: the forefront of internet recruiting. Here's a good question, by

479
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Speaker 2: the way, drawing it back into the United States and

480
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Speaker 2: drawing it back to this year.

481
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Speaker 1: Quarterback.

482
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Speaker 2: You guys looking around right now, you guys looking at

483
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Speaker 2: whether it be Uyangola Lay at Clemson, or whether it

484
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Speaker 2: be Bryce Young at Alabama. We're looking at potentially the

485
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Speaker 2: Casey Thompson area, getting at Texas. A lot of places

486
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Speaker 2: Ohio State, there are a lot of places where they're

487
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Speaker 2: a perennial contender, and you got not a controversy or

488
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 2: not a concern, but maybe questions at quarterback. And there's

489
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Speaker 2: an area right now. Two of them really that I'm

490
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Speaker 2: gonna mention, but one in particular that I think is

491
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Speaker 2: really starting to show us something even though they haven't

492
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Speaker 2: even taken a snap in spring camp yet. I'm going

493
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Speaker 2: to talk about it right after this. So here's Finn's question,

494
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Speaker 2: and I'm going to take it a couple of different directions.

495
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Speaker 2: He said, I just watched your mood tracker on Oregon.

496
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Speaker 2: Do you think the coaching staff will strictly give the

497
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Speaker 2: quarterback job to whoever is better in camp and wins

498
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Speaker 2: the battle. Do you think the fact that Thompson has

499
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Speaker 2: so much upside? He's talking about ty Thompson, by the way,

500
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Speaker 2: a high high four star recruit in this Do you

501
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 2: think the fact that he has so much upside and

502
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Speaker 2: you can build for several years with him at quarterback

503
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Speaker 2: is worth getting him in there as soon as possible.

504
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Speaker 2: It seems odd for Anthony Brown to come back with

505
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Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck transferring. This is a good question. Here's what's happening.

506
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Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck. I was talking to someone out on the

507
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Speaker 2: West coast earlier this week about this.

508
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Speaker 1: Here's the perception. The perception is Tyler Shuck.

509
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Speaker 2: Kind of caught a little trade wind when ty Thompson's

510
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Speaker 2: coming in and he realized a la Darren Thomas and

511
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Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota formerly at Oregon. He realized, Hey, even though

512
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Speaker 2: I've technically been the one starting here, this guy's probably

513
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Speaker 2: gonna take my spot, so let me get out of here. Well,

514
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Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck recently transferred. Okay, Well, then I'm talking to

515
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Speaker 2: some folks at Oregon and they think, well, hey, maybe

516
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Speaker 2: going into Spring at least, maybe it's Anthony Brown's job,

517
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Speaker 2: and so I don't doubt that. But at the same time,

518
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Speaker 2: it can't be ty Thompson's job. He's barely even enrolled

519
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Speaker 2: on campus. I think we need to let that play out.

520
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Speaker 2: Coming out of Spring, Oregon'll know what they have. J McCarthy.

521
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Speaker 2: It's very similar with he and Cade McNamara at Michigan

522
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: right now because Joe Milton, who took starts at various

523
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Speaker 2: points last year, he just transferred out. And the presumption

524
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Speaker 2: is obviously, well, yeah, he transferred because he saw JJ

525
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Speaker 2: McCarthy coming in.

526
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Speaker 1: That may be the case.

527
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Speaker 2: I kind of hope it's the case because I want

528
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Speaker 2: to get the younger, better players on the field as

529
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Speaker 2: soon as possible, or at least better according to my perception.

530
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, I want you to think

531
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Speaker 2: about a couple of things here. So the first thing is,

532
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Speaker 2: I'm always a believer outside of the star rating, you

533
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Speaker 2: can gauge how good a quarterback is, how high his

534
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Speaker 2: ceiling is, by the impact he has on the quarterback

535
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Speaker 2: room when he comes on campus, and the more.

536
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Speaker 1: Transfers you see out of that quarterback room. That's not

537
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Speaker 1: a bad thing.

538
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Speaker 2: Maybe for your depth immediately it's a bad thing, but

539
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Speaker 2: long term, I think it's a good thing because players

540
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Speaker 2: realize how good other players are sometimes. But the second

541
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Speaker 2: part this whole when do you announce a quarterback has

542
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Speaker 2: won a job. You announce it when the team lets

543
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Speaker 2: you know he's won the job. There are two different

544
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Speaker 2: layers to this, and it's tough. You talk to co coaches,

545
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Speaker 2: whether it's an offensive coordinator making the call or more

546
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Speaker 2: likely the head coach making the call. I've spoken to

547
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Speaker 2: guys about this before and they'll tell you, Yeah, I've

548
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Speaker 2: gone into spring before thinking I know who's going to start. Yeah,

549
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: we've been fall camp with me being ninety eight percent

550
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Speaker 2: sure who's going to start. But the reason that at

551
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Speaker 2: that point I hadn't announced to the team who the

552
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Speaker 2: starter was because the team had not announced to me

553
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Speaker 2: who the starter was. And he said, you know, most

554
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Speaker 2: of the time, if you'll just let it play out,

555
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: the team's going to realize the guy who you want

556
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Speaker 2: to start is right for the job. But what you

557
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Speaker 2: don't want to do is you don't want to jump

558
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Speaker 2: the gun and announce a guy as you're starting quarterback

559
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: before the team has been sold on him. And so

560
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: right now and it's early, it's we're going into spring, obviously,

561
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Speaker 2: what you're going to watch play out. What Mario Christball

562
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: is going to watch play out is he's going to

563
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: watch Ty Thompson come in and how quick does he

564
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: make decisions? And how good is he at setting his protections?

565
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Speaker 2: And how good is he at the line of scrimmage

566
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Speaker 2: five four three, check here two one? How good is

567
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Speaker 2: he because he's a true freshman. Right now, and we

568
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Speaker 2: get out of camp, you can reassess. Then you start

569
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 2: structuring your off season seven on seven workouts, and then

570
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: you get into fall camp and you've gotten plenty of

571
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Speaker 2: repetitions with your teammates by that time. But by that

572
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: first or second week of fall camp, you start to

573
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Speaker 2: hope to look around your locker room and look on

574
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Speaker 2: the field and watch the body language of players, and

575
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Speaker 2: start to talk to your leadership council, which is made

576
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Speaker 2: up of your veteran players. You start getting a sense

577
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Speaker 2: of where your team is. And then when the team

578
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Speaker 2: aligns with how you already felt, probably long before the

579
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Speaker 2: team did, that's when the decision gets made. And that's

580
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Speaker 2: sort of the inside baseball or football as it were,

581
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: of how those quarterback decisions get announced. I know it

582
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: seems simple, like you may watch ten minutes of practice

583
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 2: b roll, or you may watch the guy in the

584
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: spring game and you think, oh, this guy's clearly better

585
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Speaker 2: than him.

586
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Speaker 1: It's not always that simple.

587
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Speaker 2: It may be that simple to you to scout them,

588
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: but it's not always that simple. And announcing starter actually is.

589
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Speaker 2: Josh is next up? Good name here. He said, in

590
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Speaker 2: your opinion, when's the last time Alabama was true beaten

591
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Speaker 2: in a game? I don't just mean on the scoreboard,

592
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Speaker 2: I mean the last time they lost talent for talent,

593
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: they were out coached, they were.

594
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Speaker 1: Outplayed for four quarters.

595
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Speaker 2: My opinion, I say it hasn't happened since two thousand

596
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: and eight. But I know I've got a lot of

597
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: bias to my Gators, so I thought about it. I

598
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: have to pull up the record books to remember all

599
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: of their losses. So that two thousand and eight Florida

600
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: game was in the SEC title game. I was there.

601
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Speaker 2: Thirty one to twenty was the final.

602
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Speaker 1: I do agree they were outplayed that day.

603
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Speaker 2: I counted one, two, three, four, five, five and maybe

604
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Speaker 2: six games we're talking about thirteen years here. I counted

605
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Speaker 2: five or maybe six games that I remember them losing

606
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: where I thought, yeah, they lost that game. I can

607
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Speaker 2: remember a couple of more where I watched and said,

608
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Speaker 2: I can't believe they lost this game. So the twenty

609
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: nineteen LSU game, I think they got beat. The twenty

610
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Speaker 2: eighteen Clemson National Championship game, certainly they got beat. I

611
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Speaker 2: think the twenty seventeen Iron Bowl, I think it was

612
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Speaker 2: like twenty six to fourteen. That's one where you kept

613
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: wondering if Tongovai Lowell was going to come in. He

614
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: never did. I think they got beat that day too.

615
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen Sugar Bowl versus Ohio State. I think that

616
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: was a sound defeat twenty ten on the road at

617
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Speaker 2: South Carolina. Carolina had everything go right, They had a

618
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: decade's worth of execution go right that afternoon. I think

619
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Speaker 2: they got soundly defeated against South Carolina. In fact, Nick

620
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Speaker 2: Saban afterwards was quoted as saying, we didn't just lose

621
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Speaker 2: the game, man, They beat us today the twenty ten

622
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: LSU game. So that's one that I had questions on

623
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: because they got out gained. I guess if you want

624
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: to go right to that total yardage metric, they lost

625
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: by three. They were minus two in the turnover battle.

626
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: And so yeah, listen, LSU did beat him that day

627
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: on the scoreboard, and I could say that LSU just

628
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: flat out beat him too. And then that again going

629
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: back to the eight Florida game. But listen, Josh, the

630
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: whole out talenting Alabama, that doesn't happen. Even in these

631
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: games where they're losing, they're not facing a superior roster.

632
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: They could be out coached, they could be outplayed. There

633
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: is not going to be a time in any of

634
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: these games that I'm looking at. Aside from the early

635
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: portions of the Saban era, like the eight party game.

636
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: There's really no time where they were outclassed athletically, where

637
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: they were out talented. But yeah, those games, and again

638
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: it takes that take a whole long time to look

639
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: back on some of those, like the twenty ten Iron Bowl, Like,

640
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 2: I didn't think they got soundly defeated that day. I

641
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: didn't think that Manzell and A and M. I didn't

642
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: think that they really soundly defeated him. Neither of the

643
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: old mess losses I qualify and classify in that category.

644
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: What are some other games they've lost. I'll tell you

645
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: one more, the Game of the Century in twenty eleven.

646
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: I was at that one too, the nine to six

647
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: overtime final. I didn't walk out of that when thinking

648
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: LSU really just beat them, And I remember, you know,

649
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: I remember thinking, unless you better hope Alabama doesn't get

650
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: that rematch because I didn't Number one, I didn't think

651
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: Oklahoma belonged in that game. And I did think Bama

652
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: was going to get the shot, and if they got

653
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: the shot, I didn't care that the title game was

654
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: going to be in New Orleans. I thought Bama was

655
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: the better team. I just didn't think I saw the

656
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: better team win the rega season game. Ironically enough, if

657
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: you think about it, think about some of these games

658
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: we're talking about here, and I've never been able to

659
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: make sense of this. I've always trusted Alabama in big

660
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: games on the road more than I have at home.

661
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Can't explain it. I don't know if they play tighter

662
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: at home. Sometimes. I don't even know if this is

663
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: backed up by data. To be honest with you, I've

664
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: never really done a forensic analysis on that. But yeah, man,

665
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: LSU was in there. That was a night game. That

666
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: place was crazy. I've never seen a regular season environment

667
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: for any football game like I saw in that twenty

668
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: eleven game. That was amazing. I've been to NA I

669
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: kid you not. I've been to National championship games where

670
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: the build up, especially outside the stadium leading up to

671
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: the game didn't even come close to what it was

672
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: like outside Bryant Denny Stadium for the twenty eleven LSU game.

673
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: That was amazing. That was unbelievable. There were I don't know, man,

674
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: I just if I could encapsulate that and then I

675
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: could take it and I could show you. When I'm

676
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: trying to explain the difference between major college football and

677
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: maybe some of the five levels of college football. I'm

678
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: talking about taking an eighteen year old kid and throwing

679
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: him into that environment. You just don't duplicate that by

680
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: playing in front of twenty four thousand people. You just don't.

681
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: But man, what an environment that was. So yeah, I

682
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: counted a few there, Josh, But no, they don't get

683
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: outplayed many times. They certainly don't. They didn't last year.

684
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: As for sure. Chris is up next, he said. My

685
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: roommate and I are huge fans from New York and

686
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: New Jersey. College football is not as much a topic

687
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: of water coolers here, and we don't have barbecue joints

688
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: around here like you do down south. But your show

689
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: makes it feel like we know what's going on in

690
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: college football. My question is a more general sports question.

691
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: What's the biggest thing you realized as an adult that

692
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: you didn't as a kid in regards to sports. Growing

693
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: up in New York, our talk radio personalities were always

694
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 2: such huge icons. I assume they must know everything, and

695
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: it was a heck of a realization when I realized

696
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: they knew about as much or less than most fans.

697
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: They just had a larger platform. Christopher, I'm gonna call

698
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 2: you by your full name. It's a dirty little secret

699
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: of our industry that you just let out there. I'm

700
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: gonna let that be your takeaway. Okay, So I don't

701
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: want to disparage people in my line of work. I

702
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: will just say that I endorse that statement you made there.

703
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: Here are a few things that I jotted down right

704
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: before I started recording. I've spoken about these before. One

705
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: of the things I realized is not everyone who covers

706
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: college football or cover sports loves their job, which I've

707
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: found fascinating. Like I've said before, I know, if you're

708
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: an accountant, I could understand how an accountant would not

709
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: love their job, because there are millions and millions of

710
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: those jobs in America and around the world, and sometimes

711
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: that's just the job. Maybe you settled into it, but

712
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: you were never passionate about it. I could get that,

713
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: like I could get that if you're a tax consultant,

714
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: I could get that. I've never understood, with how precious

715
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: few amounts of jobs there are in our business, how

716
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: anyone could just wind up in one of those spots

717
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: and not love it, because there are so many people

718
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: who do love it, jockeying for those jobs. How did

719
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: someone who was miserable and couldn't have cared less end

720
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: up in one of those jobs? But I say that

721
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: to say this, whether it whether it baffles me or not,

722
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: it does seem that way that some people who cover

723
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: it they don't love it. Second thing, not everyone who

724
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: plays the game loves it, believe it or not. This

725
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: is another one that would just throw you for a

726
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: loop if you're a kid and then you're coming of

727
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: age and then you get to be in locker rooms

728
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: and you get to cover this stuff.

729
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: There are some.

730
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: Guys who God gave infinite amounts of athletic ability to

731
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: and they realized it from a young age. I am

732
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: just I'm bigger and faster and stronger than all my friends.

733
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: I can throw a baseball a long way, I can

734
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: catch footballs, I can jump higher, I could run faster,

735
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: And they just realize it. And they are never passionate

736
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: about sports, they never love sports, but they realize, hey,

737
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: I got to have a job, I might as well

738
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: have the one that's going to make me millions of

739
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: dollars instead of the one that's going to pay me

740
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 2: forty one thousand dollars.

741
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: And so they just do the math.

742
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: And they realize, I'll play till I'm thirty, I'll retire,

743
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: I'll be set for life. But it's a job. I mean,

744
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: you would be shocked at how many guys play in

745
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball or play in the NFL, and they

746
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: don't even know anything really about the sport, Like they

747
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: could not tell you anything fractionally as much about their

748
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: own sport as you could tell them about their sport.

749
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: And what you come to realize is it's because you.

750
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: Love their sport.

751
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: They don't. It's a job for them. They just happen

752
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: to have the god given ability to do it at

753
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: such a high level, and they're professional enough that they

754
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: could play it at a level that makes it look

755
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: like they love it. And when they don't love it, now,

756
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: that's the minority, by far. The majority of people do

757
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: love it. But I realized not everyone does. Another thing

758
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: is I never knew how truly great the best athletes

759
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: in pro sports are. I was. I didn't. I've never

760
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: covered NBA, but I used to use my I used

761
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: to use my job to get courtside seats sometimes, and

762
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 2: I would get credential to like Atlanta Hawks games if

763
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: I felt like going I would just get credentialed and

764
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: I would go and I'd be able to be on

765
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: the floor for pregame, shooting around and stuff like that.

766
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: I went up there one time when they were playing

767
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: with Spurs, and so this is Kawhi Leonard still with

768
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: San Antonio, Tim Duncan still playing, and I stood on

769
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: the court and I watched San Antonio warm up. And

770
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, if I don't know, how many of

771
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 2: you have ever stood on the court or had court

772
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: side seats for an NBA game, or how many of

773
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: you have been around professional basketball players. Here's what a

774
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: basketball court looks to me when you watch pros on

775
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: a basketball court, what it looks like is in it

776
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: a lot of ways. This is the case. It looks

777
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: like the dimensions of a basketball court and the dimensions

778
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: of the game were built for guys my size six'

779
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 2: one or six, two and then it got taken over

780
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: by guys who averaged six y five or sixty. Six

781
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: the length is, incredible the size is. INSANE i sat

782
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 2: there and Watched Kawhi, leonard for, example just move, around.

783
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: Just Wh you don't have to watch them, shoot just

784
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: watch them move.

785
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: Around look At Tim duncan just, move and how big

786
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: those guys, are and then how, talented like how they

787
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: don't have to sacrifice. Anything they don't look Like, bambi

788
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: they don't look like they struggle to maintain their footing

789
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: cause they have so so much.

790
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Length they're. Incredible they're just.

791
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: Specimens when you're on the, field when you're on the

792
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: sideline watching AN nfl offensive guard warm, up when you're

793
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 2: on the sideline standing there Watching clemson's defensive ends warm,

794
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: up you don't appreciate until you can see it up.

795
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: Close how spectacular a physical specimen some of those guys.

796
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: Are i've Watched Naji harris for several. Years Naji harris

797
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: is one of the most freakish Athletes i've ever. Seen

798
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: Derrick henry is the most freakish Athlete i've ever seen

799
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: in my. Life Derrick henry's hips look like they come

800
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 2: up to about your. Shoulder he's got such high, hips

801
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: and when you watch him, move when you watch him,

802
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: run the reason why he pulls away from, folks but

803
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: he never looks like he's really running fast is because

804
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: his stride length is so wider and so much bigger

805
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: than your average defensive. Back his feet don't have to

806
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: hit the ground as often as those, guys so that's

807
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: why it looks like he's galloping and yet he's still pulling. Away,

808
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: Chris i'm telling, you it is a game changing, experience

809
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: pardon the, pun to be able to view elite and

810
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: in some cases professional athletes up, close it's.

811
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: Unbelievable you. CANNOT i.

812
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: Know sometimes maybe when we're younger we want to sit at,

813
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: home or maybe if you've just never been able to experience,

814
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: that you want to sit at home and you want

815
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: to watch some guys and you want to, say you, KNOW,

816
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: i on my best, DAY i could do. That just

817
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: please take my word for. It you. Couldn't you just.

818
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: COULDN'T i couldn't. Either we couldn't what those guys do

819
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: when they're on the field with other, professionals with the

820
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: other best in the.

821
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: World ah, man oh.

822
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: MAN i don't think most of us can fully grasp

823
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 2: what's going, on what your eyeballs are. Seeing and that's

824
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: not even to speak of. Golf that's not even to

825
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: speak of. Tennis these are just the Sports i've been

826
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: able to watch up. Close so those are some of

827
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: the Things i've taken Away i'll tell you one. More you,

828
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: know here's a couple, More, Chris i've realized WHEN i

829
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: started doing this for a, living how massive a job

830
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: a college head coach. Is LIKE i think being a

831
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: college football head coach when you think about all that's

832
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: on your, plate when you think, about in many, cases

833
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: how you could be the most powerful, figure public figure

834
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: in your state and you're not even a, politician well

835
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: at least by the letter of the, law you're. Not

836
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: and how many people's lives are impacted by your success

837
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: and your team's success or. Failure that's always stood out to.

838
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: Me and then the other thing is this ties directly into, you,

839
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 2: Guys And i've spoken to you about this many, times

840
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: AND i always thank you for. It how incredible college

841
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: football fans. Are college football fans are the ones, you,

842
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: guys are the Ones i'm closest. To you guys are

843
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: the ONES i have direct communication with pretty much every

844
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: single day of the.

845
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: Week but here's what you come to.

846
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: Realize they only treat you that way if they accept,

847
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: you and they only accept you if they know you're.

848
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: Authentic and the only way to me That i've ever

849
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: found to be authentic to the college football fan is

850
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: to make sure you know every Day i'm one of. You,

851
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Like that's literally WHAT i was doing BEFORE i got

852
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: in this. World that is WHAT i was working in

853
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: the fabric. WAREHOUSE i was listening to talk radio every.

854
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: DAY i was watching the games On. SATURDAYS i was

855
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: reading the practice. REPORTS i was going to games WHENEVER

856
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: i could scrounge up the. Money that's exactly WHAT i was.

857
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: Doing so the same. Lifestyle probably lesser paid at that

858
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: point than you guys, are but the same. Lifestyle you guys.

859
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: Live the same lifestyle and passions and interest that bring

860
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: you to a podcast like, This i've got them. Too

861
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: i'm not some dude who works in the studio fifteen

862
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Speaker 2: Morning make Sure i'm caught. Up that's not, me, Man

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Speaker 2: i'm immersed in, it just like you guys are immersed in.

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Speaker 2: It and the thing about a real college football fan

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Speaker 2: tailgate and you just ask, them what are you?

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Speaker 2: you guys know good and, well there are certain things

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Speaker 1: Can't i'm about to go to. Work you guys are

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Speaker 2: Game but here is the beauty of being accepted as

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Speaker 2: one of instead of someone and college football fans when

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Speaker 2: they realize that you're one of them and you're authentic

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Speaker 2: and you relate to, them and they relate to.

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Speaker 1: You man the way they accept, you it's kind of like.

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Speaker 2: nebraska one, week and then you can go down to

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Speaker 2: games Of All florida the next, week and it's just the.

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Speaker 1: Same they're wearing different, colors but it's the same.

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Speaker 2: Feel and so even in my line of, work that's

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Speaker 2: WHY i try and distinguish the.

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Speaker 1: Product we.

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Speaker 2: Do everything we do With Late, KICK i try and

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Speaker 2: distinguish it BECAUSE i want it to be authentic to.

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Speaker 2: YOU i don't want it to sound. CONTRIVED i don't

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Speaker 2: want it to sound like a bunch of media consultants

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Speaker 2: maybe you make in a quarter a year of your.

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Speaker 2: Job got in a room and, said all, right here's

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Speaker 2: what those people want to, hear so let's make sure

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Speaker 2: we format it to where they we give them the

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Speaker 2: red meat they. Want there's plenty enough of that out.

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Speaker 2: There i'll just talk about what you want me to talk.

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Speaker 2: About and the Reason i'll know you want me to

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Speaker 2: talk about it is because you told. Me BECAUSE i

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Speaker 2: actually direct and verse with you every, week and that's

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Speaker 2: the kind of show we do around. Here and because of,

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Speaker 2: THAT i think there's an authentic experience, there and there's

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Speaker 2: an authentic relationship THAT i wouldn't trade for the world. Personally, So,

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Speaker 2: CHRIS i hope that answer your. Questions those are a

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Speaker 2: few things That i've picked up on THAT i did

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Speaker 2: not realize as a. Kid all, Right remember we're looking

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Speaker 2: josh is the. Handle give me a follow over. There

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Speaker 2: also make sure you leave us a five star review

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Speaker 2: on The apple podcast side of things that we're floating

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Speaker 2: done really good. There always want to keep that momentum.

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Speaker 2: Rolling and also, remember, yeah here's the. Search the searches

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Speaker 2: ours our fictional, university The Pate state fill in the.

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Speaker 2: Blank we need a. Mascot we need a battle, cry

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Speaker 2: and it's up to. You. Now if someone wants to

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Speaker 2: get really creative out there and write me a fight,

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Speaker 2: song you're gonna have to wait because we got to

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Speaker 2: get a name.

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Speaker 1: First but the fight.

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Speaker 2: Song whoever comes up with the fight, song now that's

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Speaker 2: instant street. Cred whoever comes up with a great, logo

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Speaker 2: that's instant street. Cred but right, now we're just looking

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Speaker 2: for the mascot, Name so hit me. Up josh pat

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Speaker 2: seven zero six at gmail dot com and THE dms

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Speaker 2: On twitter At Late. Kick josh had a lot of

939
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: fun this. MORNING i hope you have a great rest

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00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: of your. Day I'm Josh pate for Producer. Jordan this

941
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Speaker 2: has been The Late Kick extra. Again take care And

942
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Speaker 2: god bless