1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number two hundred and 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: fifty six, and today we're back with another Rut radio 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: episode in which we're hearing from hunters all across the 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: country to find out about the progress of the White 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Tail Rut, about how current conditions are impacting deer and 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: what tactics are working right now for deer hunters across 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: the country. All right, welcome to another episode of the 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Onyx and Uh. 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I am sitting today in my pickup truck in the 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: woods of northern Michigan at my family deer camp, and 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta camp full of guys inside. They're 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: sitting by the woodburning stove drinking cold beers, and Spencer 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: has forced me to go sit in the truck and 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: record a podcast with him. Um, so it's better to 18 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: be a good one man, right, Yeah, it will be. 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: You know what happened the last time you left me alone, 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: So uh, going out of your way to to be 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: on this episode not gonna let that happen again. So 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: for for anyone who hasn't heard these episodes before the 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty the ten second cliff notes is that we hear 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: from hunters all across the country about what's happening right now, 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: what's happening in the woods, what are the deer doing, 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: how are different current conditions impacting deer, and what can 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: we as hunters be doing right now to have a 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: little bit more success in the woods. So we're in 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: December now, things are changing, aren't they. I mean, this 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: is sweet. November came and went, and it came and 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: went fast, and yeah, it feels like it. And you 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: mentioned we're now in December. Some of the late season 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: stuff is what you're gonna be hearing, uh, you know 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: for these next few episodes, in our final episodes, um, 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: and for the first time in probably a month, we 36 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: are hearing a lot of weather talk. Um. That is 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: something that you get in September, in October, but then 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: the rut comes in November, and just the rut and 39 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: the time of year, Trump's everything else. But now that 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: we are in December, you hear a lot more of 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: of what the forecast looks like. And how that's going 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: to affect dear movement. It's very true. Um, I'm also 43 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: curious about what the emotional forecast is for your right now, Spencer, 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: how are you feeling emotionally now that you've made it 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: through the month of November, Because it's always a little 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: bit of a grind. It always kind of wears me 47 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: down a little bit, but also at the same time, 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: it's also it's like adrenaline rush of excitement for several 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: weeks there. Now we're kind of coming out of that. 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Where are you are you? Are you a little bit? 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: Do you have like that postpartum depression happening right now 52 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: post November depression? Or you rejuvenated after nice Thanksgiving and 53 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: you're excited for the late season. So most years I 54 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: would be bummed that it is December and we now 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: have snow on the ground and it's gotten cold. Um, 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: But this year I drew a rare muzzleloader tag in 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: South Dakota and it's good for the whole month of December, 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: So I'm very excited. Um. You know, I'm one of 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: the few people in the state who have this tag. 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: There's only like a thousand of them given out, which 61 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot, but it's good for the entire state, 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: so it's a tough jaw. I'm very excited for this December, 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: more excited than I normally would be. Uh, you know, 64 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: to see the calendar flip. That's good man. I feel 65 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: like South Dakota. It just seems like you've got like 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,119 Speaker 1: seven buck tags every year. It just seems like every 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: time I hear from you, I killed another South Dakota buck. 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: Got another South Dakota buck. Teg. How do they do this? Uh? 69 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,279 Speaker 1: A lot of deer and few hunters. It's a good situation. 70 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, you want to keep that 71 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: a secret so you can you can edit this out 72 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: when we're done. Um So I am. I am taking 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: this wildly off the rails, though I know you probably 74 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: had a plan as far as what you want to 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: talk about from the theme standpoint, I will say, um, 76 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: answering the question that I asked you that I am. 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm on the emotional upswing. I had, like my post 78 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: November depression a little bit like the rut came and 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: went so quick, it seemed like, and then was a 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: little worn out. Now I'm getting a little bit of 81 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: you know, re excited for that late season time period 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: because the bright side of November being gone is that 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: now that we are moving into December, we do get 84 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: more pannable deer. These deer return to more consistent bed 85 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: defeat patterns that if you're a hunter who's got deer 86 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: that are that are you know, at least unpressured enough 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: that they stick to a daylight movement pattern, you can 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: you can get on those deer now, um, in a consistent, 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: relatively consistent fashionately. So that is that's like my silver lining. 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: I get excited about this time of year, and I 91 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: gotta believe that's probably something our guests talk about this week. 92 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that true for sure? Yeah, that's something 93 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: you'll hear all four of our guests talk about. And 94 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: something that came up with a few colors this week, 95 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: UM that I've never really considered before until I heard 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: them talk about it was how December can look based 97 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: on how November went. Specifically, here two of our people 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: UM talk about how they felt it was more of 99 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: a trickle trickle rut this fall, UM and coming into 100 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: early December, that bucks are probably more war down than 101 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: they typically are, and so that's gonna change some things that, Um, 102 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: you know they're going to be betting right on top 103 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: of food. Um, they're not going to be really interested 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: in anything rut related at this point as far as 105 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: like sparring or chasing does that kind of thing, um, 106 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: because you know, these hunters felt that they observed what 107 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: some people would say is a trickle rud based on 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: how the moon came through or what the weather was 109 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: doing in November. Um. So that's something that I think 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to pay attention to going forward. You know, 111 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: how those bucks uh we're acting over the last month, 112 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, and how that's going to affects the affects 113 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: some things late season. Yeah, that is uh, that's an 114 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: interesting observation observation. Who who are these people that we 115 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: talked to this week? We start off in Minnesota with 116 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Mike Fitzgerald from bohunting dot Com and then from Stewart 117 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: Ranch Outfitters in Oklahoma. Is Clay Force that we talked to, 118 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: T J Unger from the Virtue TV in Indiana, and 119 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: then we end in Georgia from Seque Productions. Is Lee 120 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Ellis Lee Ellis that guy gets after some real big 121 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: city bucks. I'm interested here. I we talked to him 122 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: earlier this year on the main episode. I haven't heard 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: about how his season has gone, so I'm interested to 124 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: hear what he has to say. What I like this 125 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: week about talking to Lee is that you know and 126 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: already we try to cover the whole country and cover 127 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: different regions and stuff, um and and for this episode, 128 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: it felt like we covered completely different species of deer 129 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: almost because we talked to like in Minnesota, who's hunting 130 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: the big woods around Duluth, and then we also talked 131 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: to Lee Uh in Georgia, who is hunting bucks that 132 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: are as urban as it gets. So you'll get some 133 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: really unique insight. I think on this week's episode, I'm 134 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: very interested to hear that insight. And I think I'm 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: more interested in hearing that than I am in hearing 136 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: myself talk any longer. So unless you have something you 137 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: want us to touch on, I'd say we should just 138 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: get right to it. Let's go to the first color. 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next week because sounds a good spencer. 140 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Before we get to our first color, they'll let's pause 141 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsors at white Tail Properties. 142 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: This week, with white Tail Properties, we are joined by 143 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Neil Hagger, a land specialist out of Wisconsin, and Neil 144 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: is going to be talking to us about what buyers 145 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: should look for when they want to put food plots 146 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: on a property that doesn't currently have any. Well, I 147 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: always like to try to add food plots in areas 148 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: that are kind of a natural line of travel. So 149 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: let me speak to my own experience of my own place. Um, 150 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm in big woods and there are no food plots 151 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: and there are are no agricultural fields for miles. So 152 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: my limitations were that I only have so many places 153 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: I can put them. That was the first limitation of 154 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: where can I put them? Where is it flat enough? 155 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: Where is it dry enough? Um? But what I tried 156 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: to do on my own place is I try to 157 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: design with line of travel for the animals in mind, 158 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: and also approach so my own line of travel, and 159 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: from my point of it, my side of it, I 160 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: try to approach my foot plots in a perpendicular manner, 161 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: meaning kind of have a ninety degree angle, so that 162 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: I have I minimized the opportunity to cross paths with 163 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: the animals as they're moving on their natural travel lines, 164 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. So, uh, cover bedding cover to 165 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: food to maybe more bedding cover, and I put my 166 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: food in the middle, and then I try to approach 167 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: it at a ninety gree angle. So there's one point 168 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: of content on that line, if that makes sense. If 169 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: you'd like to learn more and to see the properties 170 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: that Neil currently has listed for sale, visit white Tail 171 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: properties dot com. Backslash Hogger. That's h A U G 172 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: E R alright, And joining us on the line first 173 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: is Mike Fitzgerald in Minnesota from bow hunting dot com. Now, 174 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: Mike in Minnesota, what would you say the bucket activity 175 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: has been lately on the scale of one to ten. 176 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: On a scale to one to ten, I'd probably put 177 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: it around a seven or eight. Seemingly been a little 178 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: bit of increase of daytime activity now um bucks are 179 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: starting to get out with these colder weather and uh, 180 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, they're recharging their batteries, they're hitting any food 181 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: sources um that are available up here. And you know, 182 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: our our winter is really kicked off already. We got 183 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: quite a bit of ice on the lake and quite 184 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: a bit of snow in the woods already, so of 185 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: deer are starting to move in the deer that do 186 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: migrate into wintering areas are starting that process. But we're 187 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: seeing um certain areas deer are kind of vacating, but 188 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: those areas where they like to winter, where they have 189 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: those um winter food sources, they're really starting to move in. 190 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: And if you have one of those spots, that's a 191 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: great place to be this time of year. So what 192 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: are some of those winter food sources that you look 193 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: for In northern Minnesota. One of the biggest ones really 194 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: for us are signs of logging activity, nuclear cuts. UM. 195 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: There's kind of that sweet spot that two of probably 196 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: five year old clear cut um has a lot of 197 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: woody brows. Those asked and tend to be the first 198 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: trees to regenerate UM up here, and so they browsed 199 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: the crap out of those things. UM. So that's one 200 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: of the main areas. And then any any spot where 201 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: there's you know, little towns, that kind of thing they 202 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: key and on people's bird feeders. There's always people that 203 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: are feeding deer throughout the season. So UM are the 204 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: biggest yard of the areas that we see around here 205 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: tend to be on one of two of those two 206 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: kinds of areas. What do you look for in bedding 207 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: with these deer kind of manking that winter migration as 208 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: they get into some new areas this time of year 209 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: with it being cold. Um, you know, we have a 210 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: lot of uh, rocky ridges and outcrops things finding those 211 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: self facing UM bedding ridges that make good bedding area. UM. 212 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: It exposes them to the sun on those sunny days. 213 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: UM if it's not that sunny. UM. Anywhere where there's 214 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: stick tree cover, if you've got a feed or grow 215 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: or something like that, UM, that will protect them from 216 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: the cold, holding the heat a little bit and keep 217 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: the snow off of them. They like that kind of stuff. 218 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: In your part of the country, imagine everything has ice 219 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: on it at this point. Is water a factor for 220 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: late season hunts. UM. If you have an area, whether 221 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: it's a stream or river, where there is open water, 222 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: they'll try to key towards that. But honestly, UM, for us, 223 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: most most streams um even by now, have started ice over, 224 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: and you know, the white tail they get all the 225 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: moisture they need from the snow on the ground and 226 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: and uh you know even a little bit out of 227 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: the you know, woody brows that they have, and so 228 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: it's hard to key in on on water here in 229 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: the late season, it's more about food and cover. Once 230 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: these white tails move into that late season range, Uh, 231 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: do you have better success hunting them in the mornings 232 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: or evenings. It's honestly mid day, especially this time of year. Uh. 233 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: In the early part of December, UM seems to be 234 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: one of the best spots. That's the temperatures have come 235 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: up from that morning dip. Um, the sun is out. 236 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: If the sun is going to be out in the day, um, 237 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: And you know they're in energy conservation mode, so they 238 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: want to move during the warm part of the day 239 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: if they can. They want to stay better down if 240 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: it's extremely cold or windy. UM. You know, eventually they 241 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: have to move anyway. But if if the pattern works 242 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: out well where you have one of those sunny mornings, UM, 243 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna in. The temperatures are gonna bump up a 244 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: little bit. That you know, ten thirty to two clock 245 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: period of time can be dynamite. How do you go 246 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: about scouting for these late season deer? Are you out 247 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: there in person looking for sign or are you trying 248 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: to glass from a distance, or are you actually running 249 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: any trail cameras in some of these spots. UM. I 250 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: still try to run trail cameras, but honestly, boots on 251 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: the ground this time of year is the best way. 252 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: We have snow cover, UM, and we get snow frequently, 253 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: so you have a good um indication of of current 254 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: activity from the last you know, anywhere from twenty four 255 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: hours to four days UM. Getting out in the woods 256 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: and find those trails you know, just like you know 257 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: any creature UM in the winter. Once those trails are 258 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: established and the snow starts to get deeper, they like 259 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: to stick to those trails unless they have to get 260 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: off of them. So if you find an established trail, 261 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: they're going to use that rather than break trails through 262 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: the snow. Going forward, Then in a sex week or so, 263 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket activity is going to 264 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Minnesota, UM, 265 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: I think it's going to maintain kind of that similar 266 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: seven to eight. UM. Again, those midday hunts, you can 267 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: get out there UM and catch them in that activity 268 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: mid day, and you know there's always that last little 269 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, that last half hour forty five minutes of 270 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: light is good. But uh, those temps drop fast here, 271 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: especially on those clear nights and um, you know, they'll 272 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: get to where they're going to get their food, but 273 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: they're going to be quicker in the evening where they 274 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: might hang around a little longer in the afternoon. Alright, Michael, 275 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: good luck in the north Woods. Thanks for joining me. 276 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Than to take care alright enjoining us online. 277 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Next is Clay Force from Stewart Ranch Outfitters in Oklahoma. Now, 278 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: Clay in Oklahoma, What would you say the buck activity 279 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten. Um, 280 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: I believe our our buck activity is still pretty high. Um, 281 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it about a six to seven right now. 282 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: So what we're seeing right now, at least in our 283 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: part of the state, which is the southwest part of 284 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: the state, UM, I believe the rut is winding down 285 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: to almost finished. With the time frame we're all right now, 286 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: there's a very small percentage of doves that are still 287 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: still coming in the heat and still seeing a few 288 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: little dear little deer chasing bucks. Excuse me, little bucks 289 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: chasing does um. And so I believe right now food 290 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: sources are gonna be key. We just got done with 291 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: our last rifle hunt. Uh, this past Sunday and almost 292 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: every buck that we shot was over some sort of 293 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: food source. So I believe with this big weather we've 294 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: got coming in this weekend, that food source is gonna 295 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: be key. As far as uh are as far as 296 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: chasing deer this week, this week and the week into 297 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: the weekend. What specific food sources are you focused on 298 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma? Uh So for our part of the state, 299 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: winter wheat um is the main food source for our 300 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: part of the state. Um So, really, anybody that's got 301 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: anything green right now is gonna be I think a 302 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: hot ticket item, whether that's a turnip patch, winter wheat, oates, rye, 303 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, anything that you had planted for a fall 304 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: food plot, that winter food source right now, I think 305 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be be key. You have a pretty high 306 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: to your population at your place there. Um do you 307 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: always see a secondary rut and do you always see 308 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: a consistent secondary rut or is that something that varies 309 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: for you from year to year. It varies a little bit, 310 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: but definitely see that that secondary rut for the most part, 311 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: our heights as far as rut activity, is going to 312 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: be about November twentie h for about a week or 313 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: ten days, uh, and then things will start slowing down 314 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, and we're seeing that secondary rut right now. 315 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Like I said that those handful of dose that didn't 316 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: get bred the first go around are are coming back 317 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: into heat and we're starting to see see a little 318 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: bit of a secondary rut. But like I said, it's 319 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: gonna be probably you know, two out of ten something 320 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: like that. It's pretty minimal as far as rut prime 321 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: rut activity right now going on. So we really shifted 322 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: gears and concentrated on foods, horses, and like so we're 323 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: pretty successful. We had uh, four hunters in this past 324 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: week and we killed four pretty nice books. So that's 325 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: really where our focus concentrated on. You mentioned a promising 326 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: forecast coming up. What are the weather patterns that you 327 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: usually look for in December to get bucks on their feet? 328 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: Just big cold snaps, big cold fronts. We're expected some 329 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: snow and some freezing rain with this. So I believe 330 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: with the rut winding down with a really big cold 331 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: blast for at least for our standards in Oklahoma, bucks 332 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: are gonna be on food sources. They're gonna be really 333 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: looking to replenish from the from the rut and going 334 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: into this winter. So with this really big cold front 335 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: coming in, I would camp out on a food source, 336 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: and I believe your chances should be pretty pretty high. 337 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: With your recent successful rifle hunters, what time of day 338 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: did those kills come? Where? Any of them mornings? That 339 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: were there? Mostly evenings? Honestly a lot of them, Uh, 340 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: mid morning to actually midday. We actually had some success 341 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: between like twelve and two. Um. So, honestly, if you've 342 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: got a good comfortable stand, I still think in all 343 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: day set is worthy, especially with deer wanting to hit 344 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: that food source and a little bit of that secondary road, 345 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: I think you're catching a little bit all of the 346 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: above right now. So Um, like I said, mid morning 347 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: to mid day, we had I think one shot mid afternoon, 348 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: but for the most part it was kind of a 349 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: mid morning to midday situation this past week. In states 350 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: like Oklahoma, we're baiting is legal? Is that something that 351 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: will help you find the mature buck in December? Or? Uh? 352 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: Do mature bucks not really kind of fall for that trick? No, 353 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: I believe so. Um, at least in our state where 354 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: feeders and and that sort of thing are are legal, 355 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna go hunt that food source. Um, either be 356 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: a big patch of food plot when are we that 357 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: sort of thing, or whether that's a protein feeder, gravity 358 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: fed feeder, spinner feeders, that sort of thing. I really 359 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: think bucks are hunting whatever that food source. Maybe. So 360 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: if you've got a small track of ground or something 361 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: like that with just a feeder in the middle of it, 362 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: I believe they're gonna be be fined in that with 363 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: with what they're looking for right now. Going forward, Then 364 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: in a six week or so, what do you think 365 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: that bucket activity is going to be on a scale 366 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Oklahoma? Um, Almos, I'm gonna 367 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: keep it right around that six to seven mark. I 368 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: don't want to go too much higher than that, um, 369 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: just with the weather the weather is coming in and 370 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But I think it should be 371 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: a pretty good, pretty good week to ten days coming up, 372 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: So about a six to seven. Great intel, Clay, Good 373 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: luck to your hunters in camp, and thanks for joining me, 374 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: all right, thanks Spencer, alright and joining us on the line. 375 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Next is t J Unger in Indiana from the Virtue TV. Now, 376 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: t J in Indiana, what would you say the bucket 377 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: activity is been lately on a scale of one to 378 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: ten Spencer. It's been about one month exactly since we 379 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: did the rout Fresh Route report, and things have changed 380 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: pretty significantly here in Northeast Indiana. UM I would give 381 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: I would give things on scale from one of the 382 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: ten probably a three, a three out of ten right now. 383 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: UM gun season closed last weekend, UH, and now we're 384 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: entering as three weekend long muzloader season coming up here 385 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: this weekend. So the woods have been really pressured. They 386 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: continue to be really pressured. UM. And you know, bucks 387 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: are are recovering from a really hard rut so far 388 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. I mean, it was a trickle rut um, 389 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: but it was long and drawn out. So UM temperatures 390 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: all season long, so you know for Northeast Indiana UM 391 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: have been highly variable from October first December one really 392 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: UM so a couple of days of super cold and 393 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: then it would warm right back up. UM. I really 394 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: think that this coupled with kind of some off moon 395 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: phases than what we would hope for UM have like 396 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: I said, turned it into a long, really drawn out rut, 397 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: a trickle rut um, which as you guys know it, 398 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: it can really take a toll on on bucks. We 399 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: actually we started seeing chasing activity. My number one was 400 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: on his feet during gaylight hours on October eleventh, um, 401 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: chasing dose. So things started early, um and just tip 402 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: drug out. Not real hot all season, but just drug out. 403 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: So for our farms, you know, we run a lot 404 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: of traill cameras, We do a lot of scouting and 405 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: um for our farms. So far as I'm concerned, bucks 406 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: are shut down right now. They are in that hard 407 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: recovery phase from that drawing up right. Um. You know 408 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now is is those bucks are 409 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: are sticking to really tight core areas. They're not traveling 410 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: like they once were. Um, you know in that in 411 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: that seeking phase or in the rut so um, you know, 412 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: I think they're bedded down and just trying to put 413 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: on some calories and gets back up here before you know, 414 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: the heart of the winter, the winter hits. You mentioned 415 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: that chuckle rud. Is that something that is familiar to you, Like, 416 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: is that something in the years past that you've seen 417 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: and has that changed how you haunt in December? Yeah? 418 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: Actually it really has you know for years past, um, 419 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: and I've I've been lucky enough or fortunate enough to 420 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: hunt the same farm for going on thirty years, um, 421 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: which has really offered me, you know, an ability to 422 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: kind of trend and get an idea of what happens 423 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: on the same farm. Um. But unfortunately for the last gosh, 424 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: I have three or four years. UM, it's been a 425 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: trickle rut for us. Whether it was you know, extreme 426 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: heat in the month of November or you know, moon 427 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: phases or whatever it's it's been. I don't remember the 428 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: last time that we had. You know, you're you're famous 429 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: rut where you know you should be in the stand 430 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: every day, uh, and you're seeing chasing every day during 431 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: late you know, daylight activity hours. So um, it's been 432 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: a long time. So because of that, I've really changed 433 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: it up on how we hunt. So you know, going 434 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: into where we're at now we're in December. UM, I'm 435 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: actually still focusing on dough activity. Now. Don't get me wrong, 436 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: the majority of the dose, uh, at least on our farms, 437 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: they're all bred, they've all been bred, but truck cameras 438 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: and and you know what we're seeing from the stand. 439 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: We actually we had a really high success rate or 440 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I had population of fawns this year, and a lot 441 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: of those fonds came on early. UM. So we've got 442 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: big yearling does um big enough. You know, they say 443 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: that threshold about sixty five to seventy five pounds um 444 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: could initiate a late estras cycle. So I'm hopeful that 445 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: some of these yearling does are big enough that that 446 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: they could hit estrius here um during this late season. So, 447 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm still focusing on does um or 448 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: not hunting nearly as hard as what we are. But um, 449 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: those those are still feeding. They're feeding pretty hard right now. 450 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: On grain. We actually still have some fields that are 451 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: holding standing beans um just because of that weather so 452 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: um showing little decent daylight activity for those does. UM. 453 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: So we're just gonna keep an eye, uh, you know, 454 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: on on what you know, what bucks starts to show 455 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: up during the day. UM. You know, I made a 456 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: pretty pretty big change up the weekend after Thanksgiving. I 457 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: moved all of my trail cameras to food and and 458 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: greens and that sort of thing, and then two major 459 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: travel routes, whereas before, you know, all of us had 460 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: our trail cameras on scrapes and communication points and you know, 461 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: where we're seeing that hot and heavy rout activity. So 462 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: I've changed it to you know, really more populated locations, UM, 463 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: feeding sources and routes. Um. Honestly, where we're at December, 464 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't even know the day to day December four. 465 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: I think, um, the cameras are really going to kind 466 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: of dictate when and where I'm gonna hunt, following the 467 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: ruts and following those gun seasons in Indiana. Do you 468 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: notice a shift in the bedding by mature bucks? Yeah? Absolutely, so. 469 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: You know these deer where before I was seeing bucks, 470 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: you know bed, I had it pretty pretty tacked down 471 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: um on where they were bed and at least on 472 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: my farm, they've really broken up a ton um. Obviously, 473 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, they sorted out their dominance, but they're in 474 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: the thickest, gnarliest cover, but at the same time, as 475 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: close as they can get to food and water. You know, 476 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: I really do believe that their primary focus right now 477 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: is refueling. Um. It's just like you and I. You know, 478 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: we put in a ton of time during that rout 479 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: all days six. We gotta get our batteries recharts. So UM, 480 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: you know, I do expect to see a little bit 481 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: of late season activity, um, but nothing like you know, 482 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: nothing like what what November should have brought. Um. But 483 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: I think because of that trick, all right, it should 484 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: drag out a little bit into December going forward. Then 485 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: in the six week or so, what do you think 486 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: that buck activity is going to be on a scale 487 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Indiana? Yeah, So, you know, 488 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: I love it when we're in October going into November 489 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: because we can talk about changes on a daily or 490 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: even hourly basis. You know, things can change any minute. Um. Unfortunately, 491 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: where we are in the season, I probably a three 492 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: or four out of ten. But as soon as we 493 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: get more favorable winter conditions, that should create a little 494 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: bit more urgency in their seating. I'd actually, I think 495 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: I can go out on limits and say I expect 496 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: to see an update uptick of maybe five to six, um, 497 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, out of ten. And when that happens, I'll 498 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: probably focused on afternoon hunts. Um over green. So we 499 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: put a lot of time into our food plots late 500 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: summer for this time right now. So, um, once we 501 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: get some snow on the ground, I expect you to 502 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: really funnel into those greens. But um, with you know, 503 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: with still a heavy drop of beans and corns still 504 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: laying out there. They're gonna hit that until it gets 505 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: a little more drastic, you know, a little more drastic 506 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: so um, you know, heavy weather, I think we could 507 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: see a pretty significant uptick. But until then, I'm probably 508 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: gonna do what the bucks do and like I said, 509 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: recover from those all day russis and and uh at 510 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: least for now, rely pretty heavily on the cell cameras 511 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: to give us the information that we need to make 512 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: a new plan. Alright, t J, well, good luck during 513 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: your late season hunts. Thanks for joining me. I really 514 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it, Spencer, have a good one, all right, and 515 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: joining me on the line. Next is Lee Ellis from 516 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Seek One Productions in Georgia. Now, Lee in Georgia, what 517 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on 518 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten? Uh, this last week 519 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: has probably been an eight. Usually our prime week or 520 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, second third week in November, and for some 521 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: reason this year, I don't know if it was weather 522 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: or what, but I did not see chasing, wasn't seeing 523 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: much activity from the mature box on cameras, um, and 524 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: it was just it was just off and the last week, Um, 525 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: I've seen more bucks chasing, more those coming in the heat, 526 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: uh than I have all of November. And actually last 527 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: night I had about a pointer. I got two pictures 528 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: of them actually mounting and breeding a dog and turning 529 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: the camera last night. That's where I'm going to sit 530 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: this evening. What phase of the row would you say 531 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: that we're currently in, and what phase of the row 532 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: would you say you're normally in this time of year. 533 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Normally it slows down big time this time of year. 534 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: But I think that um, like I said, I don't 535 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: know if it was weather, but I think a lot 536 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: of those just didn't really come into heat very strong 537 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: or just weren't weren't didn't get bread um. And normally 538 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: it's slow this time of year. It's really post rut. 539 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now, this is the time 540 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: to be entry. Uh. Like I said, I'm seeing way 541 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: more hard like hard chasing. I had an encounter with 542 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: a year last week dog and two does and I 543 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: having at forty yards, but I couldn't get a shot 544 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: on them. Um. This last the last five days, I 545 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: had seen all I've had encounters with all of my 546 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: mature bucks. Uh, that I'm after. Is your rut in 547 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta normally difference than the rest of the state or 548 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: do things typically time out the same. I think most 549 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: of the state is typically the same. Uh. Second third 550 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: week is kind of you know, around Thanksgivings, really kind 551 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: of the heat of the rut um. But I've talked 552 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: to a lot of people and that's a lot of 553 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: people are saying the same thing. It's just been an 554 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: off year and they're starting to see that second I 555 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: think we're having a I think we had a soft 556 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: first rut. I think we're having a really hard second 557 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: rut with those coming back in the heat. It didn't 558 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: get bread and things like that. Also, the weather is 559 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: just getting trime this week. It's gonna be like in 560 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: the twenties in the mornings and so it's it's gonna 561 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: force the dear get up and feed. And I think 562 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have dose coming the heat. I think that 563 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: they're also going to be thinking about food again. Um. 564 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: So I've been trying to stick to my thicker areas 565 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: getting around, you know, private bushes and things like that. 566 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: We're losing a lot of cover in our trees too, 567 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: and it's just there's a more open field, and I 568 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: think that those doer like to really kind of hug 569 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: tighter to that thicker cover. You've got the food with 570 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: the privet, and you've got a combo of kind of 571 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: later season than going to food, but also the second 572 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: right kicking, and I think that's that's at least where 573 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm focusing my efforts. You were touching on food there. 574 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: What are some of those food sources that you focus 575 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: on in Georgia really when it comes to late season. 576 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: One of the primary obviously there's still you know, still 577 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: some acorns around, but really the primary food source I 578 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: see is printed. We've got a lot of printed bushes, 579 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: uh kind of in low lying creek areas and things 580 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: like that. And then they've pile start to pile the 581 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: private bushes this time of year. With it being an 582 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: unusual rut this year, have you seen some weird signmaking 583 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: as well, or is that something that's still relevant for 584 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: you in December? Oh? Yeah, I mean all the bucks 585 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: I've seen have been chasing hard. I've had you know, 586 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: younger bucks come in and our blast and scrapes and stuff, 587 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: and usually that kind of cools off this time of year. 588 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: But I just think this this cold snap late rut. 589 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that they're you know, a 590 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks behind this year. I was gonna say, so, 591 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen a lot of activity, beer making, 592 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: rubs and scrapes, a lot of you know, grunting and chasing. 593 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: You've touched on weather patterns a few times. But are 594 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: there any moon faces that get you excited in early December? 595 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: I really like the new moon. Um, and that's kind 596 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: of where you're around the new moon, but i'd really 597 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: like a new moon. I just think that full moons 598 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: I believe anyways that they just roam around all night 599 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: and usually I'll see moment really late in the mornings 600 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: and midday during full moons. But new moons, I think 601 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: that it's like as soon as they like cracks, they're 602 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: up a moment, they're ready to go. Um. I don't 603 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: think the heat around as much, and especially when you 604 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: have these brutally cold nights, which which we're about to have. 605 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes I laugh at the night and then first cracking on, 606 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: they're up, moving and feed, looking to feed or yea 607 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: if it doesn't heat, coming to check her. Going forward. 608 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: Then in a six week or so, what do you 609 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be on a 610 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten in Georgia. I think it's 611 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: gonna get better this week. Like I said, I saw 612 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: that about that brock breeding a dough. It was in 613 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: heat last night. It's gonna be brutally cold this week. 614 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: If it was an eight last week, last week was 615 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: really good, I think it's gonna be better this week. 616 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna at the nine. All right, Lee, Well, 617 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing what giant white tail you 618 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: kill next. Good luck and next for joining me. Cool. Thanks, 619 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: and that concludes this week's episode of Wired Hunt's Brought Radio. 620 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: Good luck to all the late season hunters out there. 621 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: Stay warm when you're in the field. You can tell. 622 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: I obviously didn't because I've had a nasty cold for 623 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: this entire episode, So my apologies for you guys having 624 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: to listen to that. So thank you guys for listening. 625 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: Thanks to our guests Mike, T J. Clay, and Lee, 626 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: and until next week, stay weird, Haunt