1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: Authorities in Italy recently sees more than twenty one hundred 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: fake pieces of art and connection with a large scale forgery. 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: Network officials first became suspicious when they realized the last 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: supper had burger cake. 8 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm not pleased with that. Can you give me another joke, Michael, 9 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: I need to be amused before I can move on. 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: I too am unamused. Weth switching gears. This is from 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: the National Toy Hall of Fame. Just asked. 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: This year's inductees are my little Pony. 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: That's great? The card game Phase ten. Yeah, they all 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: made it into the Hall of Fame. But a lot 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: of less popular toys got left out. I'm gonna show 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: you some of them right now. Yeah. 17 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 5: If we have mister potato head hoofs all arms. 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: Next up we have square Hula hoof that's hard to 19 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: got frustrated. 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and finally there's Clue Menanda's brothers and come on, 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: I'm just saying they. 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: Didn't make it. Look how frustrated that little girl is 23 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: speaking of the Menendez brother That leads us in perfectly so. 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: At the very end of the campaign where Chay Gascone, 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: the DA of La County, was a running four uh 26 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: to continue to let people get away with crimes and. 27 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: Overthrow Western civilization. Correct, yeah, he's a he's a Marxist. 28 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: There at the very end he made a big pitch 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: for I think the men brothers have is weird talking. 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: We need to review with the Menendez case again to 31 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: bring real justice. 32 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 4: Right, you do a good impersonation of him to bet 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: his goal. That moment is passed. Yeah to that. But 34 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 4: the end everybody is like, what your foot your Your 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: closing argument to get re elected is letting loose Menendez brothers. 36 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: The only way the new guy is not as interested 37 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: in that. You have a new LA DA. Thank god. 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 6: The Los Angeles DA called for a judge to free 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 6: the Menendez brothers, the newly elected district Attorney Nathan Hoffman 40 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 6: telling us not so fast. Hawkman says he now wants 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 6: to review all the evidence. 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 7: If you just signed this case based on just reviewing 43 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 7: a Netflix documentary, you're not doing a You're doing a 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 7: disservice to the Menendez brothers, to the victim family members, 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 7: to the public. 46 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 6: Hawkman questioning the motive and the timing of DA George 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 6: Gascone's decision. 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: So close to the election. Is it a just decision 49 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: or was it just a political ploy? 50 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 6: There are two other possible paths of freedom here for 51 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 6: the Menendez Right now, a junt is reviewing new alleged 52 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 6: evidence in this case. There's a hearing set for that 53 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: later this month. But also at any time, the governor 54 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 6: could grant clemency. 55 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: And also that news report included just in general because 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: of Menendez brothers are just one, you know, tiny angle 57 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 4: of everything is that new La DA got elected with 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 4: the idea that Gascone wasn't locking up enough criminals, and 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: I'm going to lock up criminals. People break the law, 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to lock them up, which is really the 61 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: important thing. 62 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: Radical Das kicked in the arse and sent a packing 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: in LA in San Francisco, in Oakland, cal Unicorne is 64 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: starting to wake up a little bit to the horrific 65 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: results of the schemes that the poor people in California 66 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: had been sold. 67 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 4: It's shocking how bad things have to get before the 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: electorate reacts, but it's good to know there is a limit. 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: The great limiting factor on how far the backlash goes 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: is the public employee unions. They weren't gonna kill themselves 72 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: to defend Georgia s khone. But in terms of getting 73 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: real reformers elected state wise and a statewide and some 74 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: of the Blue states, is going to be a tough one. 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: Tough one. So, speaking of poor relations this is shocking 76 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: to me and sad. Shocking and sad. 77 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: The number of people freaking out over family members who 78 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: voted for Trump and ending like lifelong or decades. 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: Long relationships over it. 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: And I think I understand the dynamics. To understand something 81 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: is not to condone it. But I get, Okay, you 82 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: bought the most frantic, screeching, overblown hyperbole about the other 83 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: guy on the other side. 84 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: Okay, fine, But at the. 85 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: Point that it's like a cherished friendship, don't you like 86 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: opt in favor of. 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: It? Would kill me lose this friendship. Let's take a 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: serious look at this. 89 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: But if you're a cultist and you have been convinced 90 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: of your cult's righteousness, I guess you don't. 91 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: Let's agree to not talk politics and you go on 92 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: with your lives. But if you actually believe I talked 93 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: about this last week, somebody I know was at work 94 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: the next day and somebody put their arm around them 95 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: and said, racism is. 96 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: The only thing that explains it. Are you okay? Like 97 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 2: what it is? Not inflation or anything else? Okay? 98 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: But so if you actually believe that though, and you thought, well, 99 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 4: I'm not going to hang out with racists or Nazis 100 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 4: or whatever fascists, Yeah, I get that, right. 101 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Katie, you've dealt with this on one level or another. 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: Right that Katie is Mike. 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: If I if I knew it, if I found out 104 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 4: a friend, even if we were pretty good friends, was 105 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 4: secretly a Nazi who believes in exterminating the Jews, I 106 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: probably actually wouldn't be friends with them anymore. 107 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: Right. 108 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 8: I had a friend and coworker who was actually part 109 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 8: of my wedding party who ended up telling me that 110 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 8: she no longer knew what kind of heart I had, 111 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 8: and obviously she said my soul was dark and she 112 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 8: couldn't associate with me anymore. 113 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: It's similar language to the friend I mentioned last week 115 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: who the best friend of twenty five years said I'm embarrassed. 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: For you, and I don't even know who you are anymore, 117 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: and that. 118 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 4: Sort of stuff like, yeah, what, I think you probably 119 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 4: know who I am pretty well after twenty five years 120 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 4: of being close friends. 121 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: MSNBC had this Yale associated psychologist or something on saying 122 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus people especially, you do not owe your family 123 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: any of your time or love if they have turned 124 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: against you. Oh, that's some good counsel on their sweetheart. 125 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: I saw it as a momentary overwrought politics. 126 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 4: I saw on that topic a report that calls to 127 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,119 Speaker 4: crisis lines from the LBGTQ community were up seven hundred 128 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: and fifty percent after the election. Well, then that's a 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: bunch of people who've been misled by nonsense because you 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: got nothing, zero, absolutely zero to be worried about. 131 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 132 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: Our friend Katie Grimes, who we just talked to yesterday 133 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: yesterday about a different topic, wrote a great piece in 134 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: the California Globe today going through all sorts of the insanity, 135 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: and it's it's liberal white women mostly, although some women 136 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: of color. But she says, my own experience proves that 137 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: no amount of logic irrationale will soothe maniaca leftists. In 138 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: November twenty sixteen, when Donald Trump was first elected, female 139 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: step members of my family were distraught, inconsolable, deeply troubled, 140 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: bordering on mad. I only reminded them of their misery. 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and Christmas meals together that year were non existence, 142 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: non existent. By the time Trump was inaugurated, it was 143 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: obvious that my female family members were not speaking to me, 144 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: although there wasn't a formal proclamation yet until my book 145 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: was published in twenty seventeen, and she co wrote a 146 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: book called California's War Against Donald Trump? 147 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: Who Wins? Who Loses? 148 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: I received a scathing email from the step matriarch describing 149 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: what a ghastly, selfish and insensitive daughter I was, sending 150 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: the parents a mass email announcing the publication of the 151 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: book apparently triggered an unhealthy response by the females in 152 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: my family. 153 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: In twenty sixteen. And what issue would that have been? 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 4: Mostly his like treatment of women from the. 155 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sort of thing, Yeah, yeah, Who is it 156 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: not that more people grasp that there's all kinds. 157 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 4: Of you only have two choices, there's all kinds of 158 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: reasons you pick one over the other. 159 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be. 160 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: It's because I don't women to have want women to 161 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: have abortions, unless you specifically said that that's the reason 162 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: you voted for Trump. There's all kinds of economic reasons 163 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 4: or tax reasons, just all kinds of things policy. 164 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 8: This is all coming from the same group of people 165 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 8: who cannot tell us what a woman is anymore right? 166 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: Right? Which is madness? I don't know. 167 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: I just I have trouble getting in the headspace of 168 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: like thinking of somebody I would cut off because they 169 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: voted the other way. 170 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: It's just inconceivable to me. Now, the very notion is 171 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: ridiculous to me. I want to quote Matt Taibi coming up. 172 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: He wrote a piece entitled Charmingly ding Dong. The cult 173 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: is dead. The cult is not dead, but it's it's 174 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: been identified at the very least. 175 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: Oh what was I was about to say something else? 176 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: Dang it, flit it right out of my mind. The 177 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: square hula hoop. Look, how sad that little girl is 178 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: looks really discouraged. 179 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: So we got that stuff on the way, stay with us. 180 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: I want to talk about that new Gladiator movie. I 181 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: just saw a trailer for it. Looks awesome. First though 182 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: this happened the other day on CNN. 183 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 9: I think there are a lot of families out there 184 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 9: who don't believe boys should play girls sports. 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: They're not boys. I'm not going to listen to transphobia. 186 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 7: I'm trans girl boy. 187 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: When you use. 188 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 7: How changed, they're not boys, they're they're not playing girl 189 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna. 190 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Sit there listener a second. 191 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 9: But that's why Republicans kept running those ads over and 192 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 9: over and over again, because they saw the metrics suggestion 193 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 9: that lie in those ads over and over again and 194 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 9: using rhetoric, Mike, you just use saying this is boys 195 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 9: playing girls sports, which. 196 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 7: Talking about trans girls playing playing being allowed to play 197 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 7: with the people. 198 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: Who are in their gender. 199 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 7: And if you don't believe that, you don't have to 200 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 7: listen to me, listen to the American Medical Association, the 201 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 7: American psychologal. 202 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: You're going to you're gonna die on that hill, dude, 203 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: Well you're gonna die in the of America. America hates 204 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: the idea of boys playing in girl sports. This guy 205 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: is of the cult that believes that if a boy 206 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: says I'm a girl, that is a girl magically transformed 207 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: into a girl. In defiance of all science. It's funny 208 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: because they were browbeating us and imprisoning us in our 209 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: homes chanting believe the science only a couple of years ago. 210 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: Matt Taibi, who is a man of the center left, 211 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: a good old journalist. He is like so many center 212 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: left type people, as as vehement a critic and enemy 213 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: of the woke mind cult as us on the right are. 214 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: And it's interesting and I get it. But he wrote 215 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: ding dong, the cult is dead. The national mass psychosis 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: is finally delta blow, making it safe to be sane again. 217 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: As I've said many times, Matt is not the beginning 218 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: of the end. This is the end of the beginning. 219 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we have a lot of fighting to do 220 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: because they rule academia and are churning out more cult 221 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: members every single day. I've got all sorts of stories 222 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: about universities we can't get to today. But and he 223 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: goes through a bunch of different examples of just the 224 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: madness and how they can't rat each other out fast enough. 225 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: This is the second time Democrats have bet the house 226 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: on suburban white women see the Bacari sellers to CNN's 227 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: Casey Hunt. And the second time they've been left at 228 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: the altar. It's all about white supremacy, of course, and 229 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: he quotes a bunch of different people. Asked about the 230 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: upcoming Thanksgiving holiday, Yale psychologist demanded Joy Calhoun on MSNBC 231 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: disputed the societal norm that if someone is your family, 232 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: they are entitled to your time. 233 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: If someone in. 234 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: Your life voted the wrong way, talk, let me finish 235 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: your thought. If someone in your life voted the wrong 236 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: way quote, it's completely fine to not be around those people. 237 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,239 Speaker 4: Well, you must have a really rich and an enjoyable 238 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: life with that view of everything. 239 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: And because it's not crazy at all, says tab Sarcastic 240 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: women like this gal are joining a knockoff version of 241 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: South Korean four B movement, swearing off sex and children 242 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: and a parent effort to incentivize white dudes for Harris 243 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: types to throw their man buns under the tank treads 244 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: of American misogyny. Quote no spread for red, they charmingly 245 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: acclaim as one of their slogans. 246 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 4: Throw their man buns under the tank treads. That's pretty funny. 247 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: Of American misogyny. I love Taybe even when I disagree 248 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: with him. He's such a great writer. But here's the 249 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: main point. Yes, it's a cult. The mass movement that 250 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: continually renamed itself, appearing as ashtag resistance, anti racism, pro democracy, 251 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: et cetera, hits most all the classic definitions. It demonizes outsiders, 252 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: rejects critical thought, that's one of the key aspects of it. 253 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: Encourages cutting off family and friends, never more than this week. 254 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: How cultish is that demands adherence to bizarre, non traditional beliefs, 255 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: embraces lies in recruitment, Russia Gate, worship, secrecy, exaggerates the 256 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: sinfulness of old beliefs, and has an answer for everything, 257 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: and he mentions interestingly, for a cult, it doesn't have 258 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: like a charismatic leader, it has a charismatic anti leader. 259 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: Trump. 260 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: Trump is the load star, but kind of in reverse. 261 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: He's the motivator for everything. Conveniently, I mean, as soon 262 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: as if Trump died tomorrow, the neo Marxist postmodern critical 263 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: theory cult would find a new demon. But that's like 264 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: their energy right now, that's their battery. 265 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: And I love this. 266 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Even those of us with few partisan inclinations could fall 267 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: afoul just by hesitating before any of the movements. Gazillions 268 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: of weird proclamations from being on time as racist to 269 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: Beethoven is the patriarchy, to Facebook's fifty eight gender options, 270 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: to god knows what else. He says, I was banned 271 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: about nine different times, initially for failing to embrace Trump's 272 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: Russian status. 273 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: There's no way out of it. 274 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: You're either called an ally or, like Glenn Greenwald, you 275 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: woke up to find your former boss telling the New 276 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Yorker that you refuse to accept trump putin theories because 277 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: you resented quote the ascendants of women and people of 278 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: color in the party. It's hard to overstate how crazy 279 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: and infuriating it all was. 280 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: That's really good. 281 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: I'd forgotten the Facebook fifty eight different genders thing. Wow, 282 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: did they go one hundred percent down that road? 283 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 284 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that was ever going to be a workable 285 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: philosophy for mankind going forward. 286 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: Fifty eight genders. 287 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Right, And I don't want to wear you out with 288 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: this stuff, but it all fits together, and once you 289 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: see the pattern of it, it's inescapable, and this stuff matters. 290 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: It really doesn't matter. As loopy as it is. 291 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: They're indoctrinating your children to embrace despising the United States 292 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: and despising its principles in Western civilization general. 293 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: So it really matters. But it all comes down. 294 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: To if there is no objective truth, all there is 295 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: is the marching orders of the party. The term the 296 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: party line comes from that thinking in the Soviet Union 297 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: of MOUs. Whatever the party line is today, you must 298 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: echo it as if it's your most cherished belief. And 299 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: if the party line tomorrow directly contradicts that tomorrow, you 300 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: better echo it tomorrow. And if you do today's party 301 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: line tomorrow, you're a counter. 302 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: Revolutionary and you will be killed. 303 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: And at that point you have nothing but obedience to 304 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the party. And that's what they're going for. It's straight 305 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: out orwell and political theory. And Chairman Mao, the man 306 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: fifty eight gender is my ass. There's boys and girls please. 307 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: The man bun does not have a good rep with 308 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 4: a good chunk of America, does it. 309 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm a former long hour on hot days you wanted 310 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: out of your way. But the man Vun is just it's. 311 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: A bridge too far, Chack. 312 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 4: It's something I don't know any women that really dig it. 313 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty, I'm. 314 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 7: Going to tell you that I love you every day. 315 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 6: I promised that I waited tell this moment to tell 316 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 6: you that I love. 317 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 5: You and I want to spend the rest of my 318 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 5: life with you. 319 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: I've been waiting forever to do this show where you 320 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: marry me, Crystal, marry you, Katie. 321 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: I need you to look up the ages on these 322 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 4: people real quick, because I didn't watch The Golden Bachelor. 323 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 4: They've done the Golden Bachelorette where you had the woman 324 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: who was in her sixties, and then you get the 325 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 4: Golden Bachelor. Now it's it's a little it's definitely it's 326 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: all weird, obviously, but it's a little different the whole 327 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: you know, divorced, widowed, whatever. Now you're single again later 328 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 4: in life, committing to each other for the last fifteen 329 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: years or whatever. Your life is definitely different than you're 330 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: twenty two and you met on a game show, you know, 331 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: and you're gonna start your life together. 332 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: But what so he is sixty and she is sixty one. Okay, yeah, 333 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: longer than fifteen years, but not that long. 334 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 4: All right, Well, you're grown up, so I mean it's 335 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 4: easier for me to believe you're in your sixties and 336 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: you meet somebody and think, yeah, I could see us 337 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: doing this, and you don't have you know, you're not 338 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 4: raising kids together. You're already got your careers over probably 339 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 4: and yeah, you know, and your. 340 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: Picker's more sophisticated. Yeah exactly. I think at that point 341 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: I live in retirement with you. We'll play golf, will 342 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: travel around, we'll do whatever we could do that. 343 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, she's obnoxious and duplicitous. But man, does she 344 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: have big boobs? I mean, that's just you're not going 345 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: to do that. No, No, in your sixties, probably not right. 346 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: The cranium starts to take over the thinking. Thank god, 347 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: Finally it's about time. Anyway, on a completely different topic, 348 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: if I might, we have been talking on and off 349 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: today about some of the more surprising and controversial cabinet 350 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: choices that Donald J has made of light. I characterize 351 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: the last three of them as Pete hegseeth that defense 352 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: surprising but intriguing, Tulsi Gabbard at d and I surprising 353 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: yet surprising. Yeah, and Matt Gates at DOJ is surprising 354 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: yet idiotic. 355 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: I think I cranked Tulsi Gabbard up a little higher 356 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 4: than a lot of our listeners apparently do. I mean, 357 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: she doesn't believe the reports that Assad bombed and gassed 358 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 4: his own people. She thinks that's fake news. What are 359 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: you freaking talking about? You lunatic? Is my response. That's 360 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: strong stuff. I don't get her. I think she may 361 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: be half nuts. I really don't know. At times she 362 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 4: comes off it's perfectly lucid, sensible and smart. But then 363 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: she'll go into one or for you know, Asad's a 364 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 4: good guy and Putin's okay once you get to know 365 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: him stuff, and I just I'm sorry he lost me there. 366 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 4: She will be our first Hawaiian America D and I 367 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: director Hawaiian American, whereas Matt Gates would be our first 368 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: truth bag American. 369 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: Truly historical once again. 370 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: So one of my favorite folks in government is Mark 371 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: Wayne Mullen, the Senator from Oklahoma that we really hit 372 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: it off with it the r NC this past summer. 373 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: He is he is the classic example of an American 374 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: who found his way into government for part of his career, 375 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: as opposed to one of these guys who from their 376 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: sophomore year of college was utterly dedicated into getting into government. 377 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: That's their whole life. Anyway, Mark Wayne Mullen talking. 378 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: About Pete hegsith who if you don't know, you know 379 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: what he might get into it. He's a decorated veteran, 380 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: has served in a couple of different combat theaters, and 381 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: is a good and decent fella with some very strong 382 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: opinions about the troops and how they're treated and that 383 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: sort of thing. He is a surprising pick to head 384 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: up a gigantic government bureaucracy. But let's have Mark Wayne 385 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: Mullen have a say. 386 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 10: The Defense Secretary's position. A Secretary events is supposed to 387 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 10: be a civilian position, right, Yes, he fits that bill. 388 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 10: He also has two Bronze Stars and served twenty years 389 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 10: in the military. He also has a military experience. The 390 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 10: whole point of the Secretary of Defense is to bring 391 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 10: a different perspective to the Pentagonum. 392 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: H, that was a lovely clips. Let's have seventy two please. 393 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: Michael gets that look on his face. I don't see that. 394 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: He gets out of the mic. He says, that was 395 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: seventy two. 396 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 10: And I trust President Trump's decision this one. I feel 397 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 10: like he's a good pick that'll bring a perspective to 398 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 10: the to the army, or to the military, or to 399 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 10: the Pentagon without being necessarily politically correct. Politically correctness is 400 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 10: what's killed this country right now. People just want to 401 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 10: tell me the way it is, tell me what the 402 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 10: facts are, and less move forward. He did serve this country, 403 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 10: He does have a loan for this country. He has 404 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 10: respect for the service too, of the men and women 405 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 10: that's in uniform. He just brings a unique perspective that 406 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 10: may be different than you and I, but I'm actually 407 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 10: excited about them. 408 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 4: I've never quite understood this about people who run big 409 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 4: organizations of various kinds, private sector or government. It's always 410 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 4: seemed pretty clear to me, because sometimes you're an expert 411 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: in whatever it is you're doing, and then which he is. 412 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: You know, he knows a lot about the military and 413 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: fighting and on the ground, and you know, combat and 414 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: training and all that sort of stuff. And sometimes you're 415 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 4: an expert in organizational stuff. And the person who's an 416 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: expert in organizational stuff then hires people that are experts 417 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: in the particulars of what we're doing. 418 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: And then the reverse. 419 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 4: If you're an expert in the particulars, then you hire 420 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: people right beneath you who are experts in running a 421 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: big organization. 422 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't understand why that's so hard. 423 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, one might be more common than the other, and 424 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: one might work better more often than the other, but 425 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: you're right, they both happen. So Interestingly enough, the editorial 426 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: board at the Wall Street Journal, who has been weighing 427 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: in on all these picks, is they're like me. They're interested, 428 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: but hesitant. He seems why Trump wants Hegseth a defense 429 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: He seems to want a culture warrior to take on 430 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: the military brass. 431 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: There are bigger security. 432 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: Issues, and they point out the choice of mister Hegseth 433 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: is shocked many in Washington that by itself might be 434 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: a recommendation. He could hardly do worse than the so 435 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: called adults in the room. Of recent years, the armed 436 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: services can't make their recruiting quotas, America's military industrial base 437 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: has been exposed as inadequate with little protest from Pentagon leaders, 438 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: and no one in the civilian or military ranks was 439 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: held accountable for the Afghanistan de bakle Bo. 440 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 4: That's pretty good stuff right there. That's a pretty good 441 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: argument right there. 442 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: They talk about mister Hegseth's combat experience. He's been an 443 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: advocate for veterans both on TV and his member of 444 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: veterans groups. 445 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: He's smart and telligenic. 446 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: On the other hand, he's never run a big institution, 447 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: much less one of the largest and most hide bound 448 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: on the planet. You're familiar with the term hide and 449 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: bound essentially means so stuck in its ways it can't 450 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: be changed. He has no experience in government outside the military, 451 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: and no small risk is that the bureaucracy will eat 452 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: him alive. And they're a little bit concerned that Trump 453 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: picked him purely to go off after the woke crowd 454 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: in the Pentagon, which is a very worthy mission in 455 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: my opinion, or what as they point out, there are 456 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: ginormous security risks out there, or because he watched him 457 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: on Fox and Friends a lot. Oh that might have 458 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: been ninety percent of it. Who knows, Yeah, I never 459 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: know with Trump, and that's that's my concern about Pete. 460 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't think he would restrict restrict himself 461 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: for being a culture warrior to go against the world 462 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: because he cares too much about the troops because he's 463 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: being there, So. 464 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm less concerned about that. 465 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: But the and again, a lot of people who just 466 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: want knee work, throw grenade or punch the establishment the 467 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: nose and enjoy their their bleeding. The problem with that 468 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: is that it's such a short lived pleasure. 469 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: Well, I've taken in the first forty eight hours of 470 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 4: pushback against him from the liberal media, and if the 471 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 4: best they can come up with is he's said negative 472 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: things about women in combat. 473 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: Whatever, folks, I'm going to. 474 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: Use an unfortunate and rude letter here, and I hope 475 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: that you can forgive me f the left wing media. 476 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: My thoughts on this is that, and again, maybe he 477 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: can find people who are experts in this and help 478 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: execute his vision. But the numbnumber one challenge is Robert 479 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: Gates could tell you at the Pentagon is the Pentagon itself, 480 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: it is hundreds of thousands of people. 481 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: What's the millions, It's over a million. 482 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: The Department of Defense, yeah you know, yeah, well yeah, 483 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: which is essentially an extension of the Pentagon. So you 484 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: got hundreds of thousands to millions of people, depending on 485 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: where you're pointing to, and many of them spend their 486 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: entire day like the creatures of any bureaucracy, their purpose 487 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: is to protect the bureaucracy and protect their jobs. 488 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: If they have five. 489 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: Minutes at the end of the day to execute your 490 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: vision for defending the United States of America or or 491 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: or helping our brave men and women in uniform. If 492 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: they got five minutes at the end of the day, 493 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: maybe they get around to it. Their main job is 494 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: protecting the bureaucracy. So what you're sending a fighter in 495 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: there to rein that in and if you can't get 496 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: that going, you can't get anything gone. 497 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just naive. 498 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: I'm sure I am naive about this, but I understand 499 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 4: why he couldn't talk to Robert Gates and Leon Panetta, 500 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: for instance, at length. They come up with several great 501 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 4: names of people that would be good to do the 502 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 4: running the organization stuff for you while you're the vision guy, 503 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 4: which is often the case with the very top person and. 504 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: Kackaneer to Elon Musk in his opinion on all of us, Yeah, again, 505 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by Pete. It could be a train wreck. 506 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: But like the Wall Street Journal, I'm thinking, hmm. 507 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: Interesting. 508 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: Speaking of our brave folks in uniform, we have been 509 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: associated with Warrior Foundation Freedom Station for years and years now. 510 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: It's near and dear to both of us. 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And with a little 521 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: bit of money, you can fly our ill injured Marines, 522 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: soldiers and sailors home for the holidays. Today's the day 523 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 4: to go to Warrior Foundation dot org and give. 524 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: And every little bit helps. If you can spare twenty bucks, 525 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: that's fabulous. If you're a whale and you can spend 526 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot more than that, well that 527 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: would be great too, because trust us when we say 528 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: they do incredible work. When our bravest need the help 529 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: the most, go to Warrior Foundation dot org. Make that 530 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: tax deductible donation. Warrior Foundation dot org. Get the name right, 531 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: it's not that similar organization. You don't want them, You 532 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: want this Warrior Foundation dot org. 533 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: I just saw this headline. I'm gonna have to look 534 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 4: into it. Political chaos breaks out in New Zealand Parliament 535 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 4: after controversial dance. Okay, can't imagine what that was. 536 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: Was it the Lombarda, the forbidden dance? I don't know. 537 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: Was it the hokey pokey? 538 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: Who did I see? I think it was right before 539 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: the the election, said all of you people who are 540 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: such fans of democracy and the people's voice. These are 541 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: the same people who went crazy over the macarena not 542 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: long ago. 543 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: Speaking of forbidden dance. 544 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 11: Hey Macarrena, Our executive producer Hansen has come up with 545 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 11: a fantastic theory around the whole Matt Gates nomination for 546 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 11: Attorney General. 547 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 4: Then maybe we can explore and we can hear some 548 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 4: people's reactions to that odd bombastic pick, among other things 549 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 4: on the way in a hot movie I can't wait 550 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: to see too, Stay tuned. 551 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: It is an art choosing gladiators and usually prisoners of war. 552 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: I claim the city for the glory of Rome. You 553 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: have something in your wage. I haven't let it go. 554 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: It will carry you to quaintness. 555 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: Denzel Washington steals the movie, although he's the star of 556 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: Gladiator too, which looks freaking fantastic. I just saw a 557 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: trailer in which a bloody horned rhinoceros being ridden by 558 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: some Roman gladiators riding towards somebody else with a sword. 559 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: I don't know how that turns out. I don't like 560 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 4: his chances, but I'm. 561 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: Not sure I liked the counselor he was working with 562 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: who told him to hang on to his rage. 563 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that's healthy. 564 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: It's got the guy from The Mandalorian is one of 565 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: the stars who I was reading something that Sandals and 566 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 4: Swords movies, as they're known in Hollywood. I guess there's 567 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: an arc to them. Every couple of years we put 568 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: out a big Sandals and Swords movie that is a 569 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 4: huge hit that the public seems to hunger for, and 570 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: it kind of fits in with that whole men think 571 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: about the Roman Empire roughly three times a day thing. Yeah, 572 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 4: there's just such a fascination with the Roman Empire, especially 573 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: among men, that every few years we need a new 574 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: sandalan swords movie to like satisfy that hunger. 575 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: And here's going to be the latest interesting analysis. Yeah, 576 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: it is. 577 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me. I read about the Roman Empire 578 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 4: fairly regularly. So the big political bombshell that was naming 579 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 4: Matt Gates to be attorney general yesterday, and we're going 580 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 4: to talk about more about that next hour. But our 581 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: own executive producer came up with a pretty decent. 582 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: Theory as to why that is. 583 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 4: But let's hear this report from one of your newscasts 584 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: about it. 585 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 10: You got a thing about this guy. This is a 586 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 10: guy that didn't have that the media didn't give a 587 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 10: time at day to after he was accused of sleeping 588 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 10: with an This is what. 589 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: I asked at all. No, no, no, the way we're 590 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: going to do? Uh? Where is it now? Okay, I'll 591 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: have to find it again. 592 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 4: Uh. 593 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 5: Thirty five, the President elects electing a fierce loyalist Florida 594 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 5: Congressman Matt Gates as his attorney general. Gates now tapped 595 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 5: to lead the Justice Department, the same department that was 596 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 5: investigating the congressman for years for alleged obstruction of justice 597 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 5: and for alleged sex trafficking, the DOJ ultimately closing the 598 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: investigation and bringing no charges against Gates. The congressman is 599 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 5: currently at the center of an ongoing bipartisan House Ethics 600 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 5: Committee investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct and illicit drug 601 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 5: use allegations. Gates has denied, calling the investigation frivolous. 602 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: So that's the table setting, and then the report was 603 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: supposed to come out tomorrow. That seems like a heck 604 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: of a coincidence. And the report is said to be 605 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 4: very damaging. That's according to Republicans on the various committees 606 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 4: that have leaked to the news sources in the last 607 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: twenty four hours. Now, he has a lot of enemies 608 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 4: Democrats and Republicans Senate and House, and a few friends 609 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: and very few friends. So maybe they're overstating how damaging 610 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: it is. I doubt it, but it's fairly damaging, and 611 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 4: I have a feeling it is going to be leaked 612 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: out tomorrow. 613 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: Or this weekend. So that's interesting on its own. 614 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: There are already three senators on the record, Republican senators 615 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 4: on the record that say they're not going to vote 616 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 4: for him. You can only lose three to get to fifty, 617 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 4: because then it would be a tie in jd Vance, 618 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: you assume would cast the winning vote as the Vice president. 619 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: Sure for his boss I've pictured the Democrats. Every time 620 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: a Republican votes, know, they say, all right, Jim, you're up, 621 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: and Democrat votes say, yeah, we'd love him to be 622 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: attorney general. 623 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 2: Let's see how it goes and force more and more 624 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 2: Republicans than over him. 625 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 4: But so Hanson, our executive producer's theory is my theory 626 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 4: yesterday was just Trump likes watching heads explode. I don't 627 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 4: even know if he's thought down the road to whether 628 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 4: or not Gates will be confirmed. If he doesn't get confirmab, 629 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 4: I'll pick somebody else. I'm not sure Trump worries about 630 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 4: that stuff that much. But he just loved watching people 631 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: on CNN and MSNBC and CBS go nuts. 632 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 2: Over this yesterday. Yeah, and he just gets such a 633 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: kick out of that. 634 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 4: But Hanson's theory is, and this could very well be true, 635 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 4: that every once in a while he does one of 636 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 4: these things and then sits back and watches television and 637 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 4: figures out who's really with me and who's not really 638 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: with me. The people the Republicans that are asked on 639 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 4: a mic, what do you think of this choice? 640 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: Who say I think it's good. 641 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 4: I'm willing to keep an open mind and give Matt 642 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 4: Gates the fair hearing he deserves, and Trump thinks, okay, 643 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: they're willing to who ignore their own beliefs for my sake. 644 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: Put that down on the little chart that way, or 645 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 4: the people who just can't bite their tongue and are like, 646 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: what the hell and you reloud, there's somebody that can't. 647 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: Count on Hanson. 648 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: You may be right, but it's a little Saddam Husseini 649 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: ish for my tastes. 650 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: I bet it's true. 651 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 4: You don't think he keeps track of the people that 652 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 4: are willing to bend their own thinking to support me 653 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 4: no matter what, practically, no matter what. 654 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: Again, I think it may be right. That doesn't make 655 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: it right. It is correct and yet terrible because so 656 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: like even I want you to kill this child for me. 657 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's very mob bossy. It's a little 658 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 4: Canaan ably a little al Capone. Or is it that's 659 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 4: the right story? God said to Abraham, give me a 660 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: sen Abe said, God, you must be putting me on. 661 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 4: I only know that story from the Bob Dylan song. 662 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: But it's that side of story. God testing to see 663 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 4: if you're a you know, yeah, but at the last 664 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 4: minute gots no, no, no, we're good. 665 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: You can leave the kid down. Well, I think what's 666 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: going to happen here is Gate. 667 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: According to Bachman Turner Overdrive, who I look to for biblical. 668 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 4: Knowledge, Gates is not going to get confirmed, but Trump 669 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 4: will have his answers. If you miss an hour, get 670 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 4: the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty