Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi, Oh I
Speaker 1: miss you.
Speaker 2: I miss you great. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: we're going to make this work.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you look gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Look beautiful. How you doing?
Speaker 1: Oh? I have so much to catch you up on.
Speaker 2: I know you do, I know, but I just you know,
Speaker 2: I'm honored to be here with you, my love, and
Speaker 2: you look beautiful.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I feel like we need another dinner night
Speaker 1: a night out. Yeah with Darcy. Yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, like I kind of felt, you know
Speaker 1: they say when people go through divorce, like you kind
Speaker 1: of like you lose friends, like someone gets the friends
Speaker 1: just so everyone knows. Uh So, Taylor and I are
Speaker 1: both friends with Jack and Darcy, who I felt like
Speaker 1: Dean was kind of like Jack's friend, I know, and
Speaker 1: I Darcy. Darcy would say different, she'd be like, no,
Speaker 1: Sy's my friend, that's right, like she know. I did
Speaker 1: feel a little like, I don't know, because we used
Speaker 1: to do double dates with them, and that's and then
Speaker 1: we did a double date with you. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: it was like a five top exactly.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, this is obviously new territory,
Speaker 2: but new territory.
Speaker 1: God, I know that ebbs and flows, ebbs and flows.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's definitely. It feels really good. But I
Speaker 1: have moments.
Speaker 2: You know, you and Dean had a lot of history, clearly,
Speaker 2: but I mean, I'm family making and there was a
Speaker 2: lot to it.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we got together and it was fast
Speaker 1: and furious and you know, moved in right away, and gosh,
Speaker 1: I think like nine months after we got together, we
Speaker 1: were pregnant. Like my priorities changed right away, and you know,
Speaker 1: this is a new, young relationship. Like I didn't have
Speaker 1: that opportunity to like go out and explore the world
Speaker 1: and travel and hike with you. I would never fucking
Speaker 1: hike it.
Speaker 2: But I mean, yes, you would hike. I mean, oh
Speaker 2: my god, the probably, you know what. But you know,
Speaker 2: you grew you grew up. You went right into mommy mode,
Speaker 2: you really did. I did, and you're quite a mama.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I mean you know this, like
Speaker 1: you feel the same way. I'm sure like you wouldn't
Speaker 1: change your journey at all because everything that happened happened
Speaker 1: for a reason. Like if I hadn't been with him,
Speaker 1: if I hadn't, you know, my babies wouldn't be my babies, right,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't go back. But you know it is
Speaker 1: now now I'm seeing Okay, it's and maybe it happens
Speaker 1: when you're when you're like feeling it and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're then you see it everywhere. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like Netflix and all the streamers, they're like really
Speaker 1: messing with my brain lately because it's a lot of
Speaker 1: shows and movies about women kind of aging out.
Speaker 2: Aging out, or showing what it looks like. And so
Speaker 2: I don't feel like aging out. I feel like, and
Speaker 2: I hear what you're talking.
Speaker 1: In the men's perspective messy.
Speaker 2: Well, they're showing the messy parts.
Speaker 1: There's so many. I actually had this talk with Dean
Speaker 1: and I was like, and it was it was a
Speaker 1: cool deep conversation. I'm like, you know, I just watched
Speaker 1: Sirens with Julian Moore.
Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me have you seen it?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Oh I took one episode. No, I want to know.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to tell you. I don't want
Speaker 1: to spoil alert it.
Speaker 2: Just tell me what you're feeling is about it.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling that men men can keep going. Men can
Speaker 1: do trade ins. Men have the ability to be with
Speaker 1: a younger woman. And it's like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, we just get older.
Speaker 2: I just say this is out loud. I've been in
Speaker 2: a room with you, Tory. Yeah, you told me that
Speaker 2: guy's hot, Taylor. I'm going to get him over here
Speaker 2: in five minutes for you. And I was like, Tory,
Speaker 2: calm down. And you just literally stared this guy down.
Speaker 2: You are not going anywhere. I've never watched anybody just
Speaker 2: have such You are a master of like what.
Speaker 1: Do you want?
Speaker 2: Really? Because you must connect with people. You just looked
Speaker 2: at him. I said, stop, don't do me this favor.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that night? And You're like, I'll have
Speaker 2: him sitting next to you in five minutes. And within
Speaker 2: five minutes you had this guy engaged that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you are literally a magnet. You know how to turn
Speaker 2: it on, you know how to turn I mean I
Speaker 2: don't find and I'm certainly older than you, and I
Speaker 2: finally look at well, it comes from within and you
Speaker 2: know that.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: So I don't look at Sirens is a story. There's
Speaker 2: there's a sorry about it, and there's a lot of women.
Speaker 2: What it tries to do with I feel like when
Speaker 2: women are aging and they're in a power position, it
Speaker 2: just doesn't come across. Well, does that make sense? We
Speaker 2: come across harder more, you know, And that's kinda think
Speaker 2: that's the thing. You know, you come across a lot
Speaker 2: softer than I do came across. But I'm born and
Speaker 2: raised in New York, and I'm born and raised in
Speaker 2: the Bronx, and i have a real, you know, East
Speaker 2: Coast mentality about things. I'm not that soft like you know.
Speaker 2: But men, when you say that about these shows, I
Speaker 2: think you also have to take in consideration that some
Speaker 2: of these women are like in high positions of you know,
Speaker 2: executives and really running their show. And then at some
Speaker 2: point it's not as attractive as it is when you
Speaker 2: see a man running a show. But then you have
Speaker 2: a guy that's been on the are talking about us,
Speaker 2: but we're not.
Speaker 1: We must be very it's emasculating for men to be
Speaker 1: with powerful, do you think so?
Speaker 2: Men, I think you have to find the man that
Speaker 2: you have that friendship with first, and that really is
Speaker 2: not intimidated, has his own jam going on. And I
Speaker 2: do not feel like it would be emasculating. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you are respectful, I mean respect is the okay.
Speaker 2: Men want respect, Women want to feel cherished. I want
Speaker 2: my feelings heard. I want to make sure my feelings
Speaker 2: are heard. Even though I sound like a guy from
Speaker 2: you know that that's coming in and I do. I
Speaker 2: wheel and deal. But my guy always is like, just
Speaker 2: take it easy, take it easy.
Speaker 1: Take your guy waits here with so much.
Speaker 2: I've got a guy for three years, but he's man
Speaker 2: man three years?
Speaker 1: How did I not know this?
Speaker 2: Because it's it's not quite three years, it'll be three years. Well,
Speaker 2: Darcy knows. They met him. We call him pants, don't
Speaker 2: e ants. It's a good story too, Who cares? What
Speaker 2: do you call Dean? What's his nickname? What was it? Wait?
Speaker 1: Like with my friends now, like, well, didn't you have
Speaker 1: a nickname for the Dean? Babe?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I called them babe, but still do babe? Babe? God
Speaker 1: so unoriginal. Look at these men that are like in
Speaker 1: their seventies and eighties and like young women and like
Speaker 1: having babies and starting all over.
Speaker 2: But that I can't do. Okay, So now we're talking
Speaker 2: about like the de Niro's, the Mick jaggers. We're talking
Speaker 2: about guys in there, Yes, in their eighties. You know
Speaker 2: why because why they are on their fifth chapter in life.
Speaker 2: They have six seven children already. They're like finally they're
Speaker 2: with a partner maybe in their thirties that can have
Speaker 2: a child, righty do about this? What not to say
Speaker 2: that this is a negative, but like what is to
Speaker 2: live for? Like when you have all the money and
Speaker 2: you've had all the acclaim and you're still working hard
Speaker 2: and you don't want to retire as a man, And
Speaker 2: I think I see myself the same way. I could
Speaker 2: see myself in seventy eight, still touring, doing everything. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure you feel the same way. Would you want
Speaker 2: somebody to say, ah, you know, and now if it
Speaker 2: comes through for a man where he needs to have
Speaker 2: somebody on the level of energy that actually can give
Speaker 2: him a child actually says to him, you know what,
Speaker 2: don't even worry about diapers, worry about nothing, but just
Speaker 2: enjoy some time with a young child, and then you
Speaker 2: know his life. Here's life part seven for you. They
Speaker 2: have young children at this age. I know you you
Speaker 2: might listen, I'm not coming from a divorce, but I
Speaker 2: can see it from a man's I can see it
Speaker 2: from a male perspection of why they would continue to
Speaker 2: do this. A Because they fucking can number one. B
Speaker 2: Because it's also life affirming. They're still in the game
Speaker 2: of life. I think it's brilliant, is it?
Speaker 1: Wait? Have you seen Four Seasons? No? Okay, another one
Speaker 1: that fucked me up. It was originally an Alan Alda.
Speaker 1: I think Carol Burnett Ellie. They just did the remake
Speaker 1: and Tina Fey Steve Carell. Anyway, it's about friends and
Speaker 1: I'm not spoiling this one. Oh no, no, you know,
Speaker 1: a twenty fifth wedding anniversary and the wife wants to
Speaker 1: like renew their vows and he wants to get a
Speaker 1: divorce because he found a younger girlfriend. And it's about
Speaker 1: all the other friends who are in long term relationships
Speaker 1: kind of looking at their life. And Tina Fey has
Speaker 1: this great I'm not going to quote it, but basically
Speaker 1: she says to him, like, who are you? Like you're
Speaker 1: doing all this, Like you know, you're going paddleboarding and
Speaker 1: you're climbing rocks, and like aren't you tired? Like I
Speaker 1: know you you're a foodie and we used to go and
Speaker 1: have great wine and you just wanted, who's this person? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've had this full life and she just said, as
Speaker 1: your best friend for you know, twenty five thirty years
Speaker 1: or whatever. What you know? Are you tired? How do
Speaker 1: you keep up? And he said, I've never felt better
Speaker 1: or orn't alive because it's they get tired.
Speaker 2: People do and those are the ones you really, honestly are.
Speaker 2: It's not life affirming. This guy's taking his life by
Speaker 2: his horns. I I honestly, you know, I struggled with
Speaker 2: with a pretty terminal disease. There for a hot minute,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm back in another chapter. I'm training harder,
Speaker 2: I'm doing different things, I'm doing. Everything has switched gears.
Speaker 2: Your gear switches. So you're having a divorce because you
Speaker 2: want to what change your life? Something inside of you says,
Speaker 2: I need to affirm my life in a new way.
Speaker 2: So it's a new challenge. Is it's new things?
Speaker 1: What are men?
Speaker 2: Challenges? Hunters? Right? What are we? Gathers? But I find
Speaker 2: the masculine side of me really wants to go out there.
Speaker 1: What are we? We're the humans that do it all?
Speaker 1: Actually you do.
Speaker 2: But you've done the mother part, So now what's next?
Speaker 2: The mother part is in you. But you see, what
Speaker 2: have you never done? And where's that partner? You know,
Speaker 2: when you look at a partner and you say, you
Speaker 2: know what I want somebody that brings something to the
Speaker 2: table that's interesting, unique, something that I can learn from,
Speaker 2: something I can grow with and maybe find those hobbies,
Speaker 2: those passions that you've never I mean, one time I
Speaker 2: dated a guy that was so into nature and he
Speaker 2: taught me a camp. I mean, I learned so much
Speaker 2: and now nature to me is a prayer. It's like
Speaker 2: walking in nature is a prayer bead. I mean I
Speaker 2: learned so much from that relationship that I never turn
Speaker 2: my back. I mean nature has been become the greatest
Speaker 2: gift to me as far as healing and finding ways
Speaker 2: to connect with it as far and also spiritual things.
Speaker 2: But it's those relationships. Like for men, they usually have
Speaker 2: to find it with a partner. Women tend to have
Speaker 2: to go out there and find it on their own.
Speaker 2: Men usually switch gears by finding a partner or the
Speaker 2: therapist or that one mood. The divorce makes them push
Speaker 2: into something different, makes them see things differently.
Speaker 1: You just said you found nature through a partner.
Speaker 2: I found it through him because that's what he wanted
Speaker 2: to do. And I never got more excited and more loving.
Speaker 1: I was a New York girl. So at first were
Speaker 1: you like, ooh, no, this isn't me taking me.
Speaker 2: No, he was taking me. We were in Colorado, we
Speaker 2: were doing His brother was a big climber. I started
Speaker 2: going to Joshua Tree. I started climbing. I started what fildering, Yes,
Speaker 2: because you know you want to physically you know it's
Speaker 2: not about getting tired. It's about physically demanding more from
Speaker 2: your body and then actually knowing that you have it
Speaker 2: within your body and you can push yourself further. And
Speaker 2: it became this real and it's become this real truth.
Speaker 2: Like I switch up trainers, I do pilates now, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, anything to keep switching it up and figuring
Speaker 2: it out. Same thing with diet.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: For me, I'm always listening, I'm always learning. So are you?
Speaker 2: You know you are being tired? Isn't an option? How
Speaker 2: old is your youngest right now?
Speaker 1: Eight?
Speaker 2: Jesus?
Speaker 1: I know, I started, I know not yes, my friend okay?
Speaker 2: And the eldest is how old?
Speaker 1: Eighteen?
Speaker 2: Okay? So you're in a mixed bad My love eight
Speaker 2: is baby time and eighteen it's got it? And you
Speaker 2: have how many children? Three?
Speaker 1: With life?
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, I'm tired.
Speaker 1: What hearing that shit? So am I I'm tired. I'm
Speaker 1: getting tired of all your children?
Speaker 2: Or did you take these? Are any of the step
Speaker 2: kids or no? This is all?
Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, if we mentioned stepkids, I have sex,
Speaker 1: then Jesus.
Speaker 2: It's about a lot. I know you're tired, but you
Speaker 2: need to.
Speaker 1: I need escapism.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's called finding a hobby.
Speaker 1: Girl.
Speaker 2: What did you do when you were young? Did you
Speaker 2: ride horses? What were you doing? Sports? What you guys?
Speaker 2: What did they have you in? Dennis golf? You want
Speaker 2: a golf course with slay?
Speaker 1: No? I tried once. I tried to take a golf lesson,
Speaker 1: and they honestly to.
Speaker 2: Give you the lessons.
Speaker 1: I think your boobs are too big?
Speaker 2: Who is your trainer? Who is your coach?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I went to some golf course and
Speaker 1: said I want a new hobby. I'm gonna try golf
Speaker 1: and they told me that and I never did it again.
Speaker 1: My husband, my ex, is an avid golfer. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's for me. I don't like the outfits.
Speaker 1: I'm all about fashion. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you get well what about tennis? But
Speaker 2: you just don't want to go that hard.
Speaker 1: I'm not physical.
Speaker 2: Well you gotta do I know you look at your body. Well,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? Pilate's anything?
Speaker 1: No, it's called good genes in the last two years Monjaro.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I don't know. But well, but here
Speaker 1: is the thing I did dancing with the Stars, which
Speaker 1: I had. Have you done dancing with the stars? You've done?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I've done everything. But yeah, that's a beat up.
Speaker 2: So how did you do that? That's hardcore physical?
Speaker 1: Oh you know that? Then?
Speaker 2: How could I not?
Speaker 1: Because they told me, like if I was doing it,
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, it's up to you. You
Speaker 1: can train, you know, dance as little or as much
Speaker 1: as you want. But I'm I'm a perfectionist and I'm
Speaker 1: in person competitive. I'm all so if I commit to something,
Speaker 1: I'm going all in. But it was the hardest thing
Speaker 1: I've ever done. Yeah, and you're gonna love this. I
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta elimonae it first, so what and
Speaker 1: to go home to Rod Taylor? Okay, but but I
Speaker 1: got to tell you that, like month of training, I
Speaker 1: have never felt more alive. You're like, bingo, bitch, I
Speaker 1: just told you this.
Speaker 2: You never felt more alive because you've never been that
Speaker 2: connected to your body other than being a mom and
Speaker 2: physically what it takes to have children. This connection is
Speaker 2: something missing in your life. You have to be in
Speaker 2: your body, body, mind and spirit is spiritual, right, but
Speaker 2: the physical is what you give to yourself now is
Speaker 2: going to fuel this entire renaissance. Just dou Pilate's try it.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: I used to when I was young at fifty minutes.
Speaker 2: Now they're just fifty minute, Sonny. They turn these cs
Speaker 2: like yoga, good yoga, forty five minutes, you're out. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: none of this ninety minute crap.
Speaker 1: No. I tell myself that I'm way too busy. I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm definitely a workaholic and I work in
Speaker 1: mom and it's like I have no mean time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the reality is, you know, I could fit in fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't because it's like an old
Speaker 1: record in my head. It's an old story that I
Speaker 1: keep telling myself. I can't work out.
Speaker 2: They're all in school though now so they're all in school,
Speaker 2: they're all taking off to another school. Yeah, this you
Speaker 2: need to do. You have to connect the physical. It's
Speaker 2: funny because you're competitive. I know you are. I've watched
Speaker 2: you girl. You get you get things done, so I know.
Speaker 2: And then also I.
Speaker 1: Love the word no. I love it. Someone tells we know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's on. No. No is the first
Speaker 1: word towards yes.
Speaker 2: Did you even hear that? Do you hear yourself? No,
Speaker 2: first word towards yes, honey? Bang agreed because the nose
Speaker 2: were big. The nose or the nose are huge, and
Speaker 2: sometimes they really can get to you. But I don't
Speaker 2: think we'd be having this conversation thirty years into our
Speaker 2: careers if we didn't understand how nose work. So now
Speaker 2: your body, your mind, your spirit, you know. It just
Speaker 2: sounds like you just need a little kick in the
Speaker 2: ass and you need some supportive people on your side
Speaker 2: in that way.
Speaker 1: I do I do I have wait, do you mind
Speaker 1: me asking how old pants is?
Speaker 2: Pants is fifty four?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, a little younger. I mean, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: I need. I can't be do you? I mean unless
Speaker 1: Kevin Costner asked me out, No, I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't see you know, is he single again? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just joking, but I mean I do live upon
Speaker 2: so you never know. But I'm just saying he's you know,
Speaker 2: he's vibrantly attached to his life. I doubt that man
Speaker 2: wants another child at this point, but you know, he
Speaker 2: went back in there and did it again. He's got
Speaker 2: young ones. So I'm just saying, like chest Pants have kids,
Speaker 2: Pants has adult children like I do.
Speaker 1: Right, So that was my question. Did you feel like
Speaker 1: you needed to find somebody that had children, that had
Speaker 1: gone through that, that knew what it was.
Speaker 2: It is a wonderful Yeah, I'm not looking for a
Speaker 2: thirty year old. I wasn't looking for that. And at
Speaker 2: the same time, I wanted a guy that was totally
Speaker 2: in a different world.
Speaker 1: Okay, he is.
Speaker 2: My guy's into race cars, he's into he's a master welder,
Speaker 2: he's into a lot of Yeah ask Jack, Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: into this whole different world. And he's a guy guy.
Speaker 2: So when our biggest business together is now building and
Speaker 2: not quite flipping, but he's a master build a contractor.
Speaker 2: He's working on my house in Santa Barbara. Like it's
Speaker 2: the greatest, that's.
Speaker 1: Like Hampson's great.
Speaker 2: Hanson is a man, he's a good man's me. I
Speaker 2: met him on hinge. Who doesn't.
Speaker 1: I am terrified of dating apps? Why, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know where do you think you're going to meet that
Speaker 2: kind of person? Because once you start going down, like
Speaker 2: what really turns you on, it's like you get to
Speaker 2: be able at least to pick it. Listen, I watched
Speaker 2: you in a room. You could pick any man you want.
Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've watched you and you brought them over.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I'm.
Speaker 1: Too for you. I wouldn't do it for myself.
Speaker 2: No, I mean you were good like that. You're a
Speaker 2: girl's girl. I get it, you know what. And more
Speaker 2: than that, like you know, we had a lot of
Speaker 2: fun and I love you and I hate to see
Speaker 2: you when you're feeling I just feel like life is
Speaker 2: a it's a brand new chapter for you. This is it.
Speaker 2: This is a brand new day.
Speaker 1: I honestly is fifty two. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: on a first date and make small talk and like
Speaker 1: I don't want that, So you're right, it might be
Speaker 1: better to find someone that I become friends with. So
Speaker 1: if it does click, you know, we have a short
Speaker 1: you go out on a date. So just I don't
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to, I know, but but but it's
Speaker 2: an exercise in you gaining strength and something that you're
Speaker 2: not like. You have to get uncomfortable again, remember that feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of fun. Uncomfortability, it's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: So what made you on? Other dating apps are just
Speaker 1: hinge over the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only way I've dated over the years.
Speaker 2: I mean, although a guy I was with back and
Speaker 2: forth for ten years now, we met because a great
Speaker 2: girlfriend of mine was just like, sit down, Taylor, like
Speaker 2: sit down because I'll like and he said stay comfortable,
Speaker 2: let me get this and I was like what. Oh.
Speaker 2: He just said a couple of magic words and that
Speaker 2: was the end. And then he came to find me.
Speaker 2: There was a big hurricane it was in New York,
Speaker 2: Hurricane Irene or something, and then he drove through. I
Speaker 2: called him my savior. It was just he it was
Speaker 2: love at first sight. Ish. Now he wasn't great. But
Speaker 2: I've had many relationships, but many you know, I'm the
Speaker 2: only one that's never been married. Let's start there.
Speaker 1: Would you get married? Would do you to you? Laugh?
Speaker 1: Days make you uncomfortable?
Speaker 2: An eight year old? Hello, you got those kids through?
Speaker 2: Too many kids? Five? I have two, I've twins, they're
Speaker 2: twenty three. The service they put me through is in insane.
Speaker 2: Kids are a lott of like you know, children being
Speaker 2: emotionally tired. I'm now I'm in the place where my
Speaker 2: parents are now ninety my father's ninety four, knock on wood,
Speaker 2: and I'm in really like an emotional place of trying
Speaker 2: to balance being the parent, being the person of my
Speaker 2: family that steps in and helps my parents, and also
Speaker 2: being that person that steps up as a single mom
Speaker 2: because I've always been that way. I had my children
Speaker 2: with the surrogate, my eggs, and they are twenty three,
Speaker 2: and I step in there when they are beautiful, Oh
Speaker 2: thank you, I mean, but you know they're individually, this
Speaker 2: still killed me. So you know, it's this balance I'm
Speaker 2: learning to balance, like not be so enabling, not be
Speaker 2: so codependent with them, and not allow this codependency. Like
Speaker 2: you know, there is a lot of stuff that we've
Speaker 2: done that our parents never did for us. And that's
Speaker 2: why I think we got half a brain, and we
Speaker 2: know how to go out there and get things. They don't.
Speaker 1: Are they in college? What is twenty three?
Speaker 2: Well they kind of got they were and they were
Speaker 2: that first year the twenty three now, so they were
Speaker 2: the first year of COVID, so going to college and
Speaker 2: they were all she was going to New York and
Speaker 2: then New York imploded between you know, COVID, where everybody
Speaker 2: was getting sick in New York and trying to leave
Speaker 2: New York. I said, you're not going to New York
Speaker 2: and we're I'm from New York and I'm like I
Speaker 2: was like, sure she was going. She was going to
Speaker 2: Pace and I was like, well that ain't happening, is it?
Speaker 2: And then you know leave I know, so they really
Speaker 2: got stuck in my house for a year. You try
Speaker 2: it now. I'm not gonna say this to you because
Speaker 2: you were five after they were in my house and
Speaker 2: I couldn't go on the road and light everything stopped
Speaker 2: as we do it. I was like, what I fungo,
Speaker 2: I'm bought getting you to a two bedroom apartment. Your
Speaker 2: twins lived together too, bath and that that's it. I
Speaker 2: need peace, get out of my house. They were I
Speaker 2: couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2: Oh he was growing parties, he was doing I go
Speaker 2: every day. You bring an infection into my house. They
Speaker 2: don't care.
Speaker 1: You're like, Mama's got to work. I can't have this
Speaker 1: going on and on.
Speaker 2: Did you say hello to Tori? This is my manager. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm in his holiday. Can you believe it? We're very
Speaker 2: good friends. F YI. We're talking like you know, you're
Speaker 2: not supposed to interrupt your I love him, I love him.
Speaker 2: How are you? She is? We're gonna go, we're gonna
Speaker 2: gave a dinner and you'll meet him. We'll do it.
Speaker 1: That'll be fun now that you're single.
Speaker 2: I'll watch you. If I point to seven guys at
Speaker 2: the bar or anything, this woman will have them in
Speaker 2: the table in ten minutes. I've never seen anybody like magnetic.
Speaker 1: No one has ever said this about me.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I watched you that night and
Speaker 2: I did say to.
Speaker 1: You, like, oh god, that could be a career. I
Speaker 1: should be matchmaker.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh what's out package? Another part of you?
Speaker 2: You would if you think you can do that? I
Speaker 2: mean you really were like I was like, thank you, honey,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you. But what about all
Speaker 2: our husbands, all about your husband's not mine, all about
Speaker 2: your husband's were at the other table. Don't you remember this.
Speaker 2: I was like you you're you're a wife.
Speaker 1: Wait. It was at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Correct, we
Speaker 1: were Polo Lounge, Bro Paulo Lounge. Oh we were good
Speaker 1: old days. Dang it. Oh yeah, so wait, your twins
Speaker 1: lived together.
Speaker 2: They did up until literally, but my son's been living
Speaker 2: with a girlfriend. I moved them in together, and I say,
Speaker 2: get out of my house. It'speaker for me to have sanity.
Speaker 2: And you guys have your own apartment, and you learn
Speaker 2: what it's like. I'll pay this for the first six
Speaker 2: months a year. This is a rent you can't afford.
Speaker 2: You guys need to work if you're obviously you're in school. Virtually,
Speaker 2: it was all a joke. Yeah, it was horrible for them,
Speaker 2: it really was. But then at the same time, you know,
Speaker 2: it helped them achieves what I consider more of a responsible,
Speaker 2: you know, a responsible attitude towards having an apartment. But
Speaker 2: what turned into is, oh, I ended up being co
Speaker 2: signing on everything. I co signed and they were letting
Speaker 2: it roll for years and then I've just cut it off. Damn, mama, mama,
Speaker 2: And it really was hard. My daughters. What do you mean?
Speaker 2: She showed up the other day in my house. She
Speaker 2: lives in Santa Barbara. Now she's working, and she goes,
Speaker 2: can I do Netflix code? I go, girl, you forgot
Speaker 2: my next book? And they go, great, No, you can't
Speaker 2: have my Netflix code.
Speaker 1: This is night.
Speaker 2: You're still on my T mobile plan. I go, hell no,
Speaker 2: I go, this is a mitzvah. Take it as a
Speaker 2: you got. God is saying to you you can afford
Speaker 2: your life. Go on, bitch, get it together, keep going.
Speaker 2: All those things you had that I just just piggyback.
Speaker 2: We're just we just don't realize it. You know my
Speaker 2: phone bill. I'm like, why is it so much? Still?
Speaker 2: And I realize it's because I have them on the
Speaker 2: family plan still and they love it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, rates are never gonna say anything
Speaker 1: like pies never.
Speaker 2: No. What she did that night the balls. I said, Astaria,
Speaker 2: you're here to figure out, like you can achieve these
Speaker 2: things yourself. And she goes, Netflix is so expensive. I
Speaker 2: almost peek. I said, do you think that's expensive? Where
Speaker 2: do you get your car insurance payments? Hello? Oh, man, girl,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you have an eight year old I'm truly
Speaker 2: I send you love and.
Speaker 1: Bless my God. And this kid bosses me around. No.
Speaker 1: Just this morning, getting up and ready for school, he
Speaker 1: said something and I said, hello, don't talk to me
Speaker 1: like that. I am your parents. You talk to me
Speaker 1: like I'm your equal.
Speaker 2: Your mom go deep with a boy, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean with an eighteen year old boy, seventeen year old girl.
Speaker 1: Then I have a thirteen year old girl, a twelve
Speaker 1: year old boy. The eight year old is kind of
Speaker 1: the least of my worries because these other four I
Speaker 1: am not kidding. People will be like, oh, what are
Speaker 1: you doing for the weekend. I'm like hiding in my
Speaker 1: room and shaky in the corner. I have so many
Speaker 1: kids here because growing up and it is very different.
Speaker 1: I mean your.
Speaker 2: House, the house everybody hung in.
Speaker 1: Yes, but and my mom's theory was, I'd rather know
Speaker 1: that you guys are here and safe than you being
Speaker 1: somewhere else.
Speaker 2: I get very what do you do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I also can't say no. I can't say no.
Speaker 1: But it's to the point where I have, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I think between all of them, I probably have like
Speaker 1: not just my five kids. I probably have like at
Speaker 1: times ten kids, not just here at my house on
Speaker 1: the weekends, but like sleeping over and it's and I
Speaker 1: hear screaming all night and life three sixty. I'm tracking
Speaker 1: them like, Oh, we're just gonna go to the mall.
Speaker 1: You're not the mall whose house is done. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just just come here.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I fear weekends and now summer. I'm gonna fear all
Speaker 1: of summer because it can be any night. And my
Speaker 1: ex says, tell them no, not tell them they can't
Speaker 1: sleep over. And so he said, you need, you know, structure,
Speaker 1: and you need to say no, like this is your house.
Speaker 2: My daughter wouldn't insisted to have friends always constantly sleep
Speaker 2: over or stay assistant. My daughter never even did Sundays,
Speaker 2: so Sunday was my day. I always to say to
Speaker 2: I will fly back from wherever I am in the
Speaker 2: world because I had to do a lot of weekend
Speaker 2: warrior stuff. I was a single mom, and I hoped Sunday,
Speaker 2: I go Sundays my day. She goes, can Area come can?
Speaker 2: So I always had three four children, that's the norm.
Speaker 2: But with the sleeping over, she's like, can Area stay over.
Speaker 2: Can I go go so school night? No? I get it,
Speaker 2: but you, I mean, I don't know who you're having
Speaker 2: the most difficulty with. Is it the girls? The seventeen
Speaker 2: year old girl, the twelve year old girl? Wow, I
Speaker 2: mean I don't know where to begin with you.
Speaker 1: The twelve year old boy has you know, and boys
Speaker 1: at that age? Thirteen year old girl, thirteen year old girl,
Speaker 1: she's fine, she'll have yeah, she'll have some friends over.
Speaker 1: They're not the issue. It's like the twelve year old
Speaker 1: boy because their boys are loud and they're just like
Speaker 1: everywhere and.
Speaker 2: Let's see pigs.
Speaker 1: All my kids are messy. I'm messy, oh man. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean right now we're talking, and if I go
Speaker 1: into any room, there's multiple Yeah, because two are doing homeschool,
Speaker 1: so they feel like they can have friends over whenever.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, well, toy that that's on you.
Speaker 2: You know what I can is ever, I need so
Speaker 2: much structure and I'm so ocd if that painting's just
Speaker 2: a little tilted like everything in my house. My kids
Speaker 2: every day, my living was like I was like, you
Speaker 2: just clean all day. You pick them up, bring them
Speaker 2: home and let me see what they're doing. They kind
Speaker 2: of make their bed. I was like a drill sergeant.
Speaker 2: They'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I wish I hadn't known you back then.
Speaker 1: I wish you would help me through that part.
Speaker 2: Why would you want to be that tough on them?
Speaker 1: Or they probably tough, but there's a happy medium. I'm
Speaker 1: too loosey goosey. I let them do whatever, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I have to tell them to clean
Speaker 1: this up and do it, I'm like, screw it. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna do it myself. No.
Speaker 2: See, that's bad. What are you doing. You're setting them
Speaker 2: up for failure in the sense that you are not
Speaker 2: creating adults responsible people, Like what do they have that
Speaker 2: they really love and take care of? My son tried
Speaker 2: this crap with me with the first cars. He got
Speaker 2: an accident within two weeks brand new car got him
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen. Hey, you're doing great in school. Crashed it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, is this gonna be like a thing
Speaker 2: like you think the remorse? I mean when we got
Speaker 2: a car, it was like Fredom, He's like, oh, let
Speaker 2: me just go into the hove lane and see got
Speaker 2: a four hundred dollars ticket. I was like, dude, you
Speaker 2: think you're impervious. Clean the hob you know, like he
Speaker 2: went and got the hoblane, the high occupancy you know,
Speaker 2: the one where it's multiple passengers in the car. He
Speaker 2: was rolling down there to himself because he wont carpooling.
Speaker 1: Yes, New York.
Speaker 2: Times high occupancy. What does the A stand for? That's
Speaker 2: why I always Why is it high occupancy? I don't
Speaker 2: even understand. Just say carpool. Listen to you old school
Speaker 2: carpool carble.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh god. And I'm I'm the cool mom,
Speaker 1: like were you like were you friends with your kids
Speaker 1: and their friends? Though yes and.
Speaker 2: No they saw me as the badass and yes and no,
Speaker 2: like I love, I like my daughter's friends, but I'm
Speaker 2: very much on the respect level, like I really needed
Speaker 2: my kids respect. There were two of them against me,
Speaker 2: and two of them and me, five of them and
Speaker 2: you and then you have against you. Oh yeah. I
Speaker 2: had seven cameras up in my house at one point
Speaker 2: watching these kids doing crap like you have never understand
Speaker 2: LEVI would would an it person out because I had
Speaker 2: my business management running out of my house at one
Speaker 2: point for five years. And I've never seen anybody Jack
Speaker 2: up my it because he was just watching a lot
Speaker 2: of crap with a lot of his friends. I'm getting
Speaker 2: ridden devices e O r N. That's an The big
Speaker 2: problem porn, well, the fact that they get they are
Speaker 2: exposed to anything and everything, and we actually give them
Speaker 2: thousand dollars devices to do it with, and it's it's
Speaker 2: kind of criminal. There shouldn't even be anywhere near the
Speaker 2: internet for a long.
Speaker 1: Time they're on their devices twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: It's not a good thing like gaming. If you say
Speaker 2: you're raised they were raised by you and your values
Speaker 2: and your morals, it's not really true anymore because if
Speaker 2: they are I mean, I understand what the homeschool kids,
Speaker 2: but if they are online and getting information and being
Speaker 2: exposed to so much misinformation and quite frankly, not your
Speaker 2: values and not your moral you're having a battle. It's
Speaker 2: a battle with things that are not real. In my perspection,
Speaker 2: they're not real. I agree, I agree my.
Speaker 1: Twelve year old. Like they're wheelers and dealers now they.
Speaker 2: Think they are until you say go ahead, we'll and
Speaker 2: deal yourself into an apartment and right, But like.
Speaker 1: The twelve year olds, this is all like the twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen year old boys, they like they will sell
Speaker 1: things to make money.
Speaker 2: Good for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So my twelve year old is trying to convince me,
Speaker 1: not convince me. Fine, he's mentioned it many times that
Speaker 1: he really thinks that I should go on feed finder.
Speaker 2: Feed Finder? What's feed finder?
Speaker 1: He's looking at, Mitch.
Speaker 2: Well, it ain't only fans, what is it?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like an only fans for feet. First of all,
Speaker 1: this kid told me about it. He started pitching this
Speaker 1: like three years ago and he's twelve, and I'm like, yea, oh,
Speaker 1: what is this? It is fans people post photos of
Speaker 1: their feet and they make money, and there's like niches
Speaker 1: like some you know, people have fetishes. They want pictures
Speaker 1: of dirty feet, they want pictures of weird toes, they
Speaker 1: want pictures. Anyway, he taught me this and he's like
Speaker 1: and he's like mom, He's like, you're Tory spelling, and
Speaker 1: he pitches this, you're the og Donna Martin imagine money
Speaker 1: saying you would make and he knows if I make money,
Speaker 1: I make it for them, you would make putting pictures
Speaker 1: of your feet online.
Speaker 2: That's not as bad as OnlyFans. My son had me
Speaker 2: up on only fans for one day. I was like,
Speaker 2: what am I doing?
Speaker 1: You're an only fans?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is when it first like he
Speaker 2: was like your kid, But I was like, what do
Speaker 2: you mean. He goes, Oh, all the housewives are doing
Speaker 2: it now, it's not a big deal. You just go
Speaker 2: on there. Let me let me hook up your subscriptions
Speaker 2: and let me get he I didn't know. He goes,
Speaker 2: I go, dude. Seventeen people just called me up and said, dude,
Speaker 2: what are you doing on OnlyFans? And I go, I
Speaker 2: don't know. If I said leeve, I said, you know, LEVI,
Speaker 2: I said LEVI, I said, they said get it down.
Speaker 1: But you know, did the press find out before he
Speaker 1: took it down? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no. It was on and off within three hours,
Speaker 2: four hours.
Speaker 1: I have so many industry girlfriends that have tried to
Speaker 1: talk me into going on only fans.
Speaker 2: Well, honey, you got five kids, and I don't know,
Speaker 2: but you're a Tory, and believe me, you look at
Speaker 2: Drea I mean, look at Denise Richard. They're making a killing.
Speaker 2: But you know you have to be in that mindset
Speaker 2: of I don't know if you can handle it.
Speaker 1: I mean, my seventeen year old who just got her license,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, gone, yeah, but getting straight a's
Speaker 1: I'm proud. Whatever. But she's like, mom, if you ever
Speaker 1: go on only fans, that would embarrass me.
Speaker 2: It would.
Speaker 1: She also tells me, I can't date those, so it's
Speaker 1: just it's no one. Well that's are you on cameo?
Speaker 1: Of course I'm on Cameo? Oh sorry, dove, are you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, good little. I mean it's kind of slowed down.
Speaker 2: It's it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Camo's legit though, that's like, that's okay, Hey, that.
Speaker 2: Ain't only fans. That's just like a shout out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I sing a note, I sing birthdays, happy anniversaries. Sure,
Speaker 2: of course that's legit. That's a different thing. Only fans
Speaker 2: is a whole other thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a lot more money. Well, of course
Speaker 1: you can, you know, but that's like last resort, last
Speaker 1: resort if my career is completely burned down, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like I'll be like okay, here I go. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I don't want to be on
Speaker 1: a dating app. I want friends to set me up.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the old school way? Like a friend's like,
Speaker 1: oh I have a friend.
Speaker 2: This girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess one friend has set me up in
Speaker 1: It's been two years and I'm like, I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: wrong with me? Slim pickens, It's like, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 1: It's like when me too happens and I was like,
Speaker 1: no one me to me like nothing. I was like,
Speaker 1: is something wrong with me? You gotta do.
Speaker 2: You got to do your own search, You gotta you
Speaker 2: gotta do.
Speaker 1: Not doing it?
Speaker 2: Well, try potentially, do you know anyone to ask you
Speaker 2: pants his pants have a friend.
Speaker 1: I'll try camping. I've never been in my life. I'll
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Let me see what pants has I like him from TV.
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do it.
Speaker 2: No, I mean they just racing the Baja five hundred.
Speaker 2: You can't even deal with that kind of dirt.
Speaker 1: I can do dirt.
Speaker 2: No, No, this is like I was showing my friends
Speaker 2: some of the like yeah, no really the race Like
Speaker 2: that's like her boy weekend for him.
Speaker 1: But you go, you go, I see it as I'm not.
Speaker 2: On the phone with you. He just got back last time.
Speaker 1: Is he riding motorcycles dirt bikes? No?
Speaker 2: These are big trucks. Big trucks.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like big trucks.
Speaker 2: Yes, you I could see liking that part of it.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like.
Speaker 2: Truck truck off road, Baha's off Road five hundred miles.
Speaker 2: That's hardcore stuff. Some of those got you know. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you love car racing and stuff. You know, it's fast
Speaker 2: and furious. And then I also did went to polo
Speaker 2: the other day, so there you go on hundreds of
Speaker 2: men winter polo have no up in Santa Barbara Polos.
Speaker 2: The seasons just started. Went to beautiful men, men dressed up.
Speaker 2: It's always nice. Horses and men are beautiful?
Speaker 1: Are we talking pretty woman? Shit? Here? What do you
Speaker 1: mean now?
Speaker 2: I just because I go to the dirt. I used
Speaker 2: to go to the derby like or I have gone
Speaker 2: for twenty years. I mean and tons of men, tons
Speaker 2: of things. You just got to go to activities and
Speaker 2: things that they like.
Speaker 1: And they who them.
Speaker 2: You don't want to date, then that's that I.
Speaker 1: Want to find love. I told my friend recently. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to die on our owns.
Speaker 2: You needed to pick somebody and meet them. Horse horse
Speaker 2: racing and going to del Mar and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that. I grew up. My dad had
Speaker 1: we were at like Hollywood Delmar do that. Ooh, I
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm a betting kind of girl.
Speaker 2: All the guys, Oh, we should go to Vegas. Vegas
Speaker 2: is sloppy for me, but yeah, I guess we could
Speaker 2: do it. But I mean it's just hit and miss guy.
Speaker 2: It's very transient. I mean, and you know you gotta
Speaker 2: pop around to you know, I guess you could. I
Speaker 2: don't mind Vegas.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just go where I go. But like,
Speaker 2: you know, you got to troll around there to find
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 1: Meeting guys there. It would just be a fun girls weekend.
Speaker 2: It is fun.
Speaker 1: We like, so this is actually our time, not that
Speaker 1: either of us ever went away. And I'm not comparing
Speaker 1: myself to you because you're a legend in icon and like,
Speaker 1: but it's a different it's a different beast. You know,
Speaker 1: you're in a different world than me. But I mean,
Speaker 1: the eighties in nineties, it's like, finally, I just remember
Speaker 1: like six years ago, having seven years ago having to
Speaker 1: be like I'm a celebrity turned influencer because I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a working girl, so I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna change with the times because you got to. But
Speaker 1: now they're all gone. All they care about is us
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties girls. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: I'm not. You're not wrong about anything. It's just the
Speaker 2: time is right, the put the fruit is, the fruit
Speaker 2: is full, and I'm just hard. You stand around long enough,
Speaker 2: you get to sit down, and the point is why bother?
Speaker 2: I love standing up? Oh, you're right in it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done a residency in Vegas and you
Speaker 1: hate Vegas? I'm like going back to it? A residency
Speaker 1: in Vegas?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'd love that. I think it would be
Speaker 2: another great another great venue to have as a I
Speaker 2: call them kind of like anchors, and I love that.
Speaker 2: And performing live for me is everything I really have,
Speaker 2: you know, for thirty seven years, that's been my biggest thing. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I made a lot of great records and I have
Speaker 2: a lot of great hit songs, but performing live has
Speaker 2: turned me. I've evolved. My show is just getting better
Speaker 2: and better and better. Costume. I really bring it in
Speaker 2: the big dogs now and I'm just loving it. And
Speaker 2: that connection. You can never ever take that. You know,
Speaker 2: one thing being an actress another thing when you perform
Speaker 2: and you're out there with a different audience every night,
Speaker 2: and the magic, the energy, the transference is real. It's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Live, live is amazing. It's a great feeling. And you
Speaker 1: get to connect with the people that have, yeah, like
Speaker 1: your comfort to them because they've been fans of yours
Speaker 1: for so long that you know, the world's a different
Speaker 1: place right now. And all top people, children's children. I've
Speaker 1: watched generations.
Speaker 2: We're in LGBT, we're in Pride Month, my my people
Speaker 2: that were at the gay my first Prides or anything.
Speaker 2: Think about thirty seven years ago when tell It to
Speaker 2: mahar came out the gay the gay community embraced me
Speaker 2: and what that showed me. I've seen families, marriages, I've
Speaker 2: seen babies that were named after me through you know,
Speaker 2: and now marriages and children and family. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: incredible to see it. So I've watched so many different
Speaker 2: journeys through so many different fans, and then also through
Speaker 2: my biggest supporter, you know, the biggest supporters of my career,
Speaker 2: the tran the you know, the drag queens with the
Speaker 2: biggest support ever in my career. I came out with
Speaker 2: that crimpy, crazy hair and everything I mean, come on, girl,
Speaker 2: think about it. So live is everything because I get
Speaker 2: to meet when I have the opportunity and also perform.
Speaker 2: But you know, you have to raise the bar. You must,
Speaker 2: like my production must.
Speaker 1: You have to evolve, of course, and it must.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm representing twenty twenty five and I'm representing
Speaker 2: my health, my wellness, my melt kill state of mind,
Speaker 2: and also my creativity. My creativity is coming out through
Speaker 2: the work you're seeing on stage now, through my media.
Speaker 2: Now we're trying on you know, we work on all
Speaker 2: levels now. And the fans love it, of course they do,
Speaker 2: and I love them like I get off on it.
Speaker 2: So find a hobby, get off on it. This is
Speaker 2: isn't a hobby for me. I'm lucky and privileged that
Speaker 2: this is my business, my passion, my heart, my career.
Speaker 2: It's so much like I'm not Taylor Dane. You know,
Speaker 2: if somebody said, if we took your voice away, what
Speaker 2: would you It would be rough as ship. But I
Speaker 2: still think.
Speaker 1: You put back on only fans.
Speaker 2: I mean I maybe go to the only fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't check our feed find or I've
Speaker 1: seen a feature. I don't know, Finn says.
Speaker 2: I will say, but you know, the pedicure has to
Speaker 2: be on.
Speaker 1: Oh duh, yeah, Finn says, and you.
Speaker 2: Said sloppy and messy. They want pig feet too. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well for those yeah, that's yeah, that's a whole different beast.
Speaker 2: Your children know this. That's sad. Of course, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. Like if I like, we're talking about
Speaker 1: this and you're inspiring me so much right now, and
Speaker 1: then I have to think about like, gosh, I started
Speaker 1: as your fan and I'm privileged enough to be friends
Speaker 1: with you, and it's just like what a fucking journey.
Speaker 2: Life is a concert? That's what we should do. Just
Speaker 2: go girl, let's go.
Speaker 1: To the ball. Scared of concerts, I'm not listen, that's
Speaker 1: the old me. My friend says, I'm Tory two point zero. Well,
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not.
Speaker 2: We'll go to a concert. Let's go to see something
Speaker 2: like yeah, that's where it's game on. Let's go see music.
Speaker 1: And I come on tour with you, eh?
Speaker 2: Can she come on tour?
Speaker 1: Mitch? It's not gladtch not glamorous, dude, you get it,
Speaker 1: I trust me, I get it.
Speaker 2: No, I know you don't stop. No, you don't stop.
Speaker 2: Well I have, I mean things have happened. I raised kids,
Speaker 2: you know, I've had moments and you know through medical
Speaker 2: I know. But you but no, what your brain doesn't stop.
Speaker 1: Your love of the game.
Speaker 2: I love of the game is very high.
Speaker 1: I love that. Did you have that moment when your
Speaker 1: kids were teenagers? When kids would come over and be like,
Speaker 1: do you know where your mom is?
Speaker 2: No, they'd go in the trophy room, and in the
Speaker 2: trophy room. My kids could give a shit, but there
Speaker 2: was a trophie room and they go in that trophy
Speaker 2: room and they only told me different times. I'd hear
Speaker 2: the trophy you mean like a war like mom. No,
Speaker 2: she goes, I watch your videos when you're in the nineties,
Speaker 2: like it's Cray Mom, like Cray of course they're so
Speaker 2: like West Coast and she goes, you sounded so like yeah,
Speaker 2: you know. I was like, wow, you watch my videos?
Speaker 2: Like you watch all these things, these interviews. They'll never
Speaker 2: tell you to your face they don't.
Speaker 1: Nah, my kids don't watch, but all you know how
Speaker 1: they know, like even like my twelve year old, Like
Speaker 1: if I said, oh, do you know Taylor Dane, he'd
Speaker 1: be like yes, because on TikTok all the like clips
Speaker 1: now are coming back in the music videos and the
Speaker 1: clips of me and I Know two and Oho and
Speaker 1: like scary movie. Like it's just yeah, no.
Speaker 2: It's great. It's great, and they'll educate you on my son.
Speaker 2: You is obviously big and he manages a lot of influencers.
Speaker 2: But he he's like, you need to do a duet
Speaker 2: with this guy. Look at this guy. And I'm like, right, guys,
Speaker 2: got like point eight million, I'm doing it. Tell him
Speaker 2: a right, nobody's naked. He goes, well, just do it
Speaker 2: in your version. Mom, you half the time you have
Speaker 2: no shirts on? Anyway, who are you kidding? And he's like,
Speaker 2: just get like, okay, they're on it.
Speaker 1: They're on the sickest body, Like, uh, legs for days.
Speaker 1: Not me, I'm little, little, but you got legs for days.
Speaker 1: Hell more than half your body or your.
Speaker 2: Leg There's something about that, like it's well proportion, like
Speaker 2: we we we work hard for it. Now. I eat accordingly.
Speaker 2: I work hard for it and because I feel better
Speaker 2: and I feel unstoppable. Strength is everything.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, where are you going next?
Speaker 2: I know you're going to nothing too crazy. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go check on that ninety and ninety four year old,
Speaker 2: because that's my jam. I'm going to Florida. I have
Speaker 2: a place in Miami and my parents live in del Rey,
Speaker 2: So I do that. Bring pants just in case we
Speaker 2: need to fix some things immediately. You go right through everything.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't mess around with the old people. My
Speaker 2: girlfriend Celeste will be there.
Speaker 1: Bring them here.
Speaker 2: Dude, if you need help, I got you help.
Speaker 1: What kind of help?
Speaker 2: Help? Like anything around the house, like if you need help,
Speaker 2: like I exactly.
Speaker 1: I grew up in an a house where I didn't
Speaker 1: learn to and learn to do laundry. I wasn't taught
Speaker 1: any of that, you know, So and then I went
Speaker 1: into a marriage where he fixed everything and now I'm
Speaker 1: just left to do he I'm like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to fix a fucking light bulb.
Speaker 2: Yes you do.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, wait, I didn't realize that you did
Speaker 1: celebrity drag race.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god it. I mean how I that the
Speaker 2: mic on for me because the rest of this is
Speaker 2: just choreography and dancing and that's not my jam. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like no way a J McLean killed
Speaker 2: killed the room, put on all the boobies, the prosthetics.
Speaker 2: I was like, you are no crazy. I did it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well ruise my leg years and years. What a supporter
Speaker 2: of human being? What a beautiful human?
Speaker 1: Yeah? He really great human?
Speaker 2: Great, she is amazing human being.
Speaker 1: So agreed.
Speaker 2: Yes, he calls me, I go, what's up? I'll do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I should do that show. People say I
Speaker 1: look like a drag queen anyway, and I might as well.
Speaker 2: All of the balls or guest judge whatever, he's you know,
Speaker 2: that's family.
Speaker 1: We do it. And we both did mass singer very different.
Speaker 2: Versions because I loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved it too.
Speaker 2: I loved it too. I mean, were you nervous because
Speaker 2: it's a different Oh, I am going pretty far. So
Speaker 2: it was past nervous because but like they start, when
Speaker 2: you first started, were you like, it's different thing in
Speaker 2: a mask behind something and the costume was genius, and
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I'm just gonna we're gonna go
Speaker 2: down this list of songs and we're gonna kill it. No,
Speaker 2: not that kind of nervous, but being nervous on stage
Speaker 2: because everything was live my inside in this cannon. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's just a different because my voice is everything to me.
Speaker 2: So I was like, this is blows. I'm singing out
Speaker 2: of my eyehole, like come on. And then, of course,
Speaker 2: you know, we're doing my vocals upstairs. But I was like,
Speaker 2: it got to a point where I got really like, guys,
Speaker 2: we have to use my pre record. Guys, we're using
Speaker 2: the live version here. Like it just I fell I
Speaker 2: almost fell off the you know, it's precarious, it's real deal.
Speaker 2: I loved it. It was very very competitive.
Speaker 1: I pre record, it's live. What do you mean?
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, but you always have to re record
Speaker 2: your vocals affair. You could fall off the stage at
Speaker 2: any minute. The smoke bomb. It's unbelievable. I get it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, no I and I loved it because
Speaker 1: everyone has such preconceived notions about me, and as soon
Speaker 1: as it's oh, it's toy spelling, it's like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, you know what, let's let's
Speaker 1: see what they think now if they don't know.
Speaker 2: What to me.
Speaker 1: Being spelling. I loved being the unicorn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anonymity it is great. And they're great judges, They're
Speaker 2: just great people. We know them all for one hundred years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like you beat up, like, you know.
Speaker 2: Come on corn popcorn pop pop pop. Yeah. I had
Speaker 2: a great time.
Speaker 1: Who won that season?
Speaker 2: It was me, Leanne and At Carter Nick Leanne one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we came down to the last three. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: the singers on that, I mean, that's a tough clen
Speaker 2: Nick Carter.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell, dude, Well, it's not
Speaker 1: like you lost to like an influencers.
Speaker 2: First of all. Yeah, you know it was, but Leanne
Speaker 2: what in her voice? It is so angelic. She's become
Speaker 2: a true artist. She's truly elevated, and you know, it's
Speaker 2: a joy to work with her. I saw her we
Speaker 2: did a thing at Carnegie Hall recently for Diane Warren
Speaker 2: and like it was weird because she and I were
Speaker 2: the original, you know, performers and singers of this song.
Speaker 2: You know, I did Love Will Lead You Back. It
Speaker 2: was like a thirty five year anniversary and she's there
Speaker 2: and Clive's there and then Leanne you know, did how
Speaker 2: to Well Live. You know, it was just pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: It was a beautiful night.
Speaker 1: So much and you're dancing. I love your dancing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I love this. Okay, one last question. All right,
Speaker 1: Taylor Dean, you have done everything. What is one thing
Speaker 1: you have never done that you want to do?
Speaker 2: Win an Academy Award for Best Original Song.
Speaker 1: Great, you just said it, you put it out there,
Speaker 1: you manifested it. It's happening.
Speaker 2: It's time.
Speaker 1: You mean you already won. That's what you're supposed to say.
Speaker 2: I already won.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did. Just thank me your speech. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I love you and me.
Speaker 2: You're a manifesto. I love you, sweetheart, I love you.
Speaker 1: I love you very much. Okay, we're gaining together soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Darcy is glue and I stay with her, so
Speaker 2: we'll go. Okay, perfect.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: You're beautiful. I love you too. Thank you for this time.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: Friend.
Speaker 2: Bye, My love m