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Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi, Oh I

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Speaker 1: miss you.

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Speaker 2: I miss you great. I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: we're going to make this work.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you look gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Look beautiful. How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I have so much to catch you up on.

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Speaker 2: I know you do, I know, but I just you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm honored to be here with you, my love, and

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Speaker 2: you look beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I feel like we need another dinner night

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Speaker 1: a night out. Yeah with Darcy. Yeah, I know, I

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest, like I kind of felt, you know

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Speaker 1: they say when people go through divorce, like you kind

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Speaker 1: of like you lose friends, like someone gets the friends

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Speaker 1: just so everyone knows. Uh So, Taylor and I are

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Speaker 1: both friends with Jack and Darcy, who I felt like

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Speaker 1: Dean was kind of like Jack's friend, I know, and

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Speaker 1: I Darcy. Darcy would say different, she'd be like, no,

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Speaker 1: Sy's my friend, that's right, like she know. I did

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Speaker 1: feel a little like, I don't know, because we used

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Speaker 1: to do double dates with them, and that's and then

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Speaker 1: we did a double date with you. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: it was like a five top exactly.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, this is obviously new territory,

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Speaker 2: but new territory.

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Speaker 1: God, I know that ebbs and flows, ebbs and flows.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's definitely. It feels really good. But I

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Speaker 1: have moments.

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Speaker 2: You know, you and Dean had a lot of history, clearly,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, I'm family making and there was a

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Speaker 2: lot to it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we got together and it was fast

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Speaker 1: and furious and you know, moved in right away, and gosh,

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Speaker 1: I think like nine months after we got together, we

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Speaker 1: were pregnant. Like my priorities changed right away, and you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a new, young relationship. Like I didn't have

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Speaker 1: that opportunity to like go out and explore the world

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Speaker 1: and travel and hike with you. I would never fucking

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Speaker 1: hike it.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, yes, you would hike. I mean, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, the probably, you know what. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you grew you grew up. You went right into mommy mode,

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Speaker 2: you really did. I did, and you're quite a mama.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I mean you know this, like

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Speaker 1: you feel the same way. I'm sure like you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: change your journey at all because everything that happened happened

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Speaker 1: for a reason. Like if I hadn't been with him,

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Speaker 1: if I hadn't, you know, my babies wouldn't be my babies, right,

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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't go back. But you know it is

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Speaker 1: now now I'm seeing Okay, it's and maybe it happens

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Speaker 1: when you're when you're like feeling it and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden you're then you see it everywhere. Like I

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Speaker 1: feel like Netflix and all the streamers, they're like really

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Speaker 1: messing with my brain lately because it's a lot of

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Speaker 1: shows and movies about women kind of aging out.

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Speaker 2: Aging out, or showing what it looks like. And so

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like aging out. I feel like, and

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Speaker 2: I hear what you're talking.

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Speaker 1: In the men's perspective messy.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're showing the messy parts.

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Speaker 1: There's so many. I actually had this talk with Dean

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Speaker 1: and I was like, and it was it was a

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Speaker 1: cool deep conversation. I'm like, you know, I just watched

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Speaker 1: Sirens with Julian Moore.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me have you seen it?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Oh I took one episode. No, I want to know.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to tell you. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to spoil alert it.

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Speaker 2: Just tell me what you're feeling is about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling that men men can keep going. Men can

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Speaker 1: do trade ins. Men have the ability to be with

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Speaker 1: a younger woman. And it's like, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, we just get older.

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Speaker 2: I just say this is out loud. I've been in

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Speaker 2: a room with you, Tory. Yeah, you told me that

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Speaker 2: guy's hot, Taylor. I'm going to get him over here

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Speaker 2: in five minutes for you. And I was like, Tory,

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Speaker 2: calm down. And you just literally stared this guy down.

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Speaker 2: You are not going anywhere. I've never watched anybody just

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Speaker 2: have such You are a master of like what.

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Speaker 1: Do you want?

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Speaker 2: Really? Because you must connect with people. You just looked

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Speaker 2: at him. I said, stop, don't do me this favor.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that night? And You're like, I'll have

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Speaker 2: him sitting next to you in five minutes. And within

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Speaker 2: you are literally a magnet. You know how to turn

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Speaker 2: it on, you know how to turn I mean I

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Speaker 2: don't find and I'm certainly older than you, and I

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Speaker 2: finally look at well, it comes from within and you

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Speaker 2: know that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: So I don't look at Sirens is a story. There's

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Speaker 2: there's a sorry about it, and there's a lot of women.

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Speaker 2: What it tries to do with I feel like when

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Speaker 2: women are aging and they're in a power position, it

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Speaker 2: just doesn't come across. Well, does that make sense? We

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Speaker 2: come across harder more, you know, And that's kinda think

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Speaker 2: that's the thing. You know, you come across a lot

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Speaker 2: softer than I do came across. But I'm born and

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Speaker 2: raised in New York, and I'm born and raised in

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Speaker 2: Coast mentality about things. I'm not that soft like you know.

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Speaker 2: But men, when you say that about these shows, I

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Speaker 2: think you also have to take in consideration that some

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Speaker 2: of these women are like in high positions of you know,

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Speaker 2: executives and really running their show. And then at some

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Speaker 2: point it's not as attractive as it is when you

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Speaker 2: see a man running a show. But then you have

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Speaker 2: a guy that's been on the are talking about us,

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Speaker 2: but we're not.

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Speaker 1: We must be very it's emasculating for men to be

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Speaker 1: with powerful, do you think so?

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Speaker 2: Men, I think you have to find the man that

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Speaker 2: you have that friendship with first, and that really is

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Speaker 2: not intimidated, has his own jam going on. And I

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Speaker 2: do not feel like it would be emasculating. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you are respectful, I mean respect is the okay.

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Speaker 2: Men want respect, Women want to feel cherished. I want

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Speaker 2: my feelings heard. I want to make sure my feelings

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Speaker 2: are heard. Even though I sound like a guy from

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Speaker 2: you know that that's coming in and I do. I

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Speaker 2: wheel and deal. But my guy always is like, just

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Speaker 2: take it easy, take it easy.

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Speaker 1: Take your guy waits here with so much.

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Speaker 2: I've got a guy for three years, but he's man

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Speaker 2: man three years?

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Speaker 1: How did I not know this?

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Speaker 2: Because it's it's not quite three years, it'll be three years. Well,

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Speaker 2: Darcy knows. They met him. We call him pants, don't

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Speaker 2: e ants. It's a good story too, Who cares? What

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Speaker 2: do you call Dean? What's his nickname? What was it? Wait?

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Speaker 1: Like with my friends now, like, well, didn't you have

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Speaker 1: a nickname for the Dean? Babe?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I called them babe, but still do babe? Babe? God

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Speaker 1: so unoriginal. Look at these men that are like in

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Speaker 1: their seventies and eighties and like young women and like

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Speaker 1: having babies and starting all over.

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Speaker 2: But that I can't do. Okay, So now we're talking

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Speaker 2: about like the de Niro's, the Mick jaggers. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about guys in there, Yes, in their eighties. You know

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Speaker 2: why because why they are on their fifth chapter in life.

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Speaker 2: They have six seven children already. They're like finally they're

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Speaker 2: with a partner maybe in their thirties that can have

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Speaker 2: that this is a negative, but like what is to

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Speaker 2: live for? Like when you have all the money and

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Speaker 2: you've had all the acclaim and you're still working hard

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Speaker 2: and you don't want to retire as a man, And

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Speaker 2: I think I see myself the same way. I could

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Speaker 2: see myself in seventy eight, still touring, doing everything. And

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you feel the same way. Would you want

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Speaker 2: somebody to say, ah, you know, and now if it

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Speaker 2: him a child actually says to him, you know what,

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Speaker 2: don't even worry about diapers, worry about nothing, but just

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Speaker 2: enjoy some time with a young child, and then you

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Speaker 2: know his life. Here's life part seven for you. They

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Speaker 2: have young children at this age. I know you you

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Speaker 2: can see it from a man's I can see it

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Speaker 2: from a male perspection of why they would continue to

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Speaker 2: do this. A Because they fucking can number one. B

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Speaker 2: Because it's also life affirming. They're still in the game

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Speaker 2: of life. I think it's brilliant, is it?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Have you seen Four Seasons? No? Okay, another one

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Speaker 1: that fucked me up. It was originally an Alan Alda.

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Speaker 1: I think Carol Burnett Ellie. They just did the remake

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Speaker 1: and Tina Fey Steve Carell. Anyway, it's about friends and

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Speaker 1: I'm not spoiling this one. Oh no, no, you know,

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Speaker 1: divorce because he found a younger girlfriend. And it's about

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Speaker 1: all the other friends who are in long term relationships

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Speaker 1: kind of looking at their life. And Tina Fey has

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Speaker 1: this great I'm not going to quote it, but basically

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Speaker 1: she says to him, like, who are you? Like you're

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Speaker 1: doing all this, Like you know, you're going paddleboarding and

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Speaker 1: you've had this full life and she just said, as

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Speaker 1: or whatever. What you know? Are you tired? How do

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Speaker 1: you keep up? And he said, I've never felt better

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Speaker 2: People do and those are the ones you really, honestly are.

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Speaker 2: It's not life affirming. This guy's taking his life by

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Speaker 2: his horns. I I honestly, you know, I struggled with

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Speaker 2: with a pretty terminal disease. There for a hot minute,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm back in another chapter. I'm training harder,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing different things, I'm doing. Everything has switched gears.

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Speaker 2: Your gear switches. So you're having a divorce because you

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Speaker 2: want to what change your life? Something inside of you says,

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Speaker 2: I need to affirm my life in a new way.

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Speaker 2: So it's a new challenge. Is it's new things?

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Speaker 1: What are men?

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Speaker 2: Challenges? Hunters? Right? What are we? Gathers? But I find

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Speaker 2: the masculine side of me really wants to go out there.

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Speaker 1: What are we? We're the humans that do it all?

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Speaker 1: Actually you do.

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Speaker 2: But you've done the mother part, So now what's next?

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Speaker 2: The mother part is in you. But you see, what

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Speaker 2: have you never done? And where's that partner? You know,

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Speaker 2: when you look at a partner and you say, you

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Speaker 2: something I can grow with and maybe find those hobbies,

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Speaker 2: those passions that you've never I mean, one time I

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, I've done everything. But yeah, that's a beat up.

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Speaker 2: You never felt more alive because you've never been that

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Speaker 1: Like Hampson's great.

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Speaker 2: Hanson is a man, he's a good man's me. I

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Speaker 2: Know where do you think you're going to meet that

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Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've watched you and you brought them over.

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Speaker 1: I honestly is fifty two. I don't want to go

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Speaker 2: I don't want to, I know, but but but it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only way I've dated over the years.

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Speaker 1: Would you get married? Would do you to you? Laugh?

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Speaker 2: An eight year old? Hello, you got those kids through?

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Speaker 2: because I've always been that way. I had my children

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00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: with the surrogate, my eggs, and they are twenty three,

438
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 2: and I step in there when they are beautiful, Oh

439
00:24:52,920 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: thank you, I mean, but you know they're individually, this

440
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: still killed me. So you know, it's this balance I'm

441
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: learning to balance, like not be so enabling, not be

442
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,719
Speaker 2: so codependent with them, and not allow this codependency. Like

443
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: you know, there is a lot of stuff that we've

444
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: done that our parents never did for us. And that's

445
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: why I think we got half a brain, and we

446
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: know how to go out there and get things. They don't.

447
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: Are they in college? What is twenty three?

448
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: Well they kind of got they were and they were

449
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: that first year the twenty three now, so they were

450
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: the first year of COVID, so going to college and

451
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: they were all she was going to New York and

452
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: then New York imploded between you know, COVID, where everybody

453
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: was getting sick in New York and trying to leave

454
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: New York. I said, you're not going to New York

455
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: and we're I'm from New York and I'm like I

456
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: was like, sure she was going. She was going to

457
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: Pace and I was like, well that ain't happening, is it?

458
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 2: And then you know leave I know, so they really

459
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: got stuck in my house for a year. You try

460
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: it now. I'm not gonna say this to you because

461
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: you were five after they were in my house and

462
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't go on the road and light everything stopped

463
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: as we do it. I was like, what I fungo,

464
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm bought getting you to a two bedroom apartment. Your

465
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: twins lived together too, bath and that that's it. I

466
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: need peace, get out of my house. They were I

467
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: couldn't do it.

468
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you.

469
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: Oh he was growing parties, he was doing I go

470
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: every day. You bring an infection into my house. They

471
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: don't care.

472
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: You're like, Mama's got to work. I can't have this

473
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: going on and on.

474
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: Did you say hello to Tori? This is my manager. Look,

475
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm in his holiday. Can you believe it? We're very

476
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: good friends. F YI. We're talking like you know, you're

477
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 2: not supposed to interrupt your I love him, I love him.

478
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: How are you? She is? We're gonna go, we're gonna

479
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: gave a dinner and you'll meet him. We'll do it.

480
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: That'll be fun now that you're single.

481
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: I'll watch you. If I point to seven guys at

482
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: the bar or anything, this woman will have them in

483
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: the table in ten minutes. I've never seen anybody like magnetic.

484
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: No one has ever said this about me.

485
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I watched you that night and

486
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: I did say to.

487
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: You, like, oh god, that could be a career. I

488
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: should be matchmaker.

489
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh what's out package? Another part of you?

490
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: You would if you think you can do that? I

491
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: mean you really were like I was like, thank you, honey,

492
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, thank you. But what about all

493
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: our husbands, all about your husband's not mine, all about

494
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: your husband's were at the other table. Don't you remember this.

495
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: I was like you you're you're a wife.

496
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Wait. It was at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Correct, we

497
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: were Polo Lounge, Bro Paulo Lounge. Oh we were good

498
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: old days. Dang it. Oh yeah, so wait, your twins

499
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: lived together.

500
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: They did up until literally, but my son's been living

501
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 2: with a girlfriend. I moved them in together, and I say,

502
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: get out of my house. It'speaker for me to have sanity.

503
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 2: And you guys have your own apartment, and you learn

504
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: what it's like. I'll pay this for the first six

505
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: months a year. This is a rent you can't afford.

506
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: You guys need to work if you're obviously you're in school. Virtually,

507
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: it was all a joke. Yeah, it was horrible for them,

508
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: it really was. But then at the same time, you know,

509
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: it helped them achieves what I consider more of a responsible,

510
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: you know, a responsible attitude towards having an apartment. But

511
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: what turned into is, oh, I ended up being co

512
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: signing on everything. I co signed and they were letting

513
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: it roll for years and then I've just cut it off. Damn, mama, mama,

514
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: And it really was hard. My daughters. What do you mean?

515
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: She showed up the other day in my house. She

516
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: lives in Santa Barbara. Now she's working, and she goes,

517
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: can I do Netflix code? I go, girl, you forgot

518
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: my next book? And they go, great, No, you can't

519
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: have my Netflix code.

520
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: This is night.

521
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: You're still on my T mobile plan. I go, hell no,

522
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: I go, this is a mitzvah. Take it as a

523
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: you got. God is saying to you you can afford

524
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: your life. Go on, bitch, get it together, keep going.

525
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: All those things you had that I just just piggyback.

526
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: We're just we just don't realize it. You know my

527
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: phone bill. I'm like, why is it so much? Still?

528
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: And I realize it's because I have them on the

529
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: family plan still and they love it.

530
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, rates are never gonna say anything

531
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: like pies never.

532
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: No. What she did that night the balls. I said, Astaria,

533
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: you're here to figure out, like you can achieve these

534
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: things yourself. And she goes, Netflix is so expensive. I

535
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: almost peek. I said, do you think that's expensive? Where

536
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: do you get your car insurance payments? Hello? Oh, man, girl,

537
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you have an eight year old I'm truly

538
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: I send you love and.

539
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: Bless my God. And this kid bosses me around. No.

540
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: Just this morning, getting up and ready for school, he

541
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: said something and I said, hello, don't talk to me

542
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: like that. I am your parents. You talk to me

543
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: like I'm your equal.

544
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: Your mom go deep with a boy, but I.

545
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: Mean with an eighteen year old boy, seventeen year old girl.

546
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Then I have a thirteen year old girl, a twelve

547
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: year old boy. The eight year old is kind of

548
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: the least of my worries because these other four I

549
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: am not kidding. People will be like, oh, what are

550
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: you doing for the weekend. I'm like hiding in my

551
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: room and shaky in the corner. I have so many

552
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: kids here because growing up and it is very different.

553
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean your.

554
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: House, the house everybody hung in.

555
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: Yes, but and my mom's theory was, I'd rather know

556
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: that you guys are here and safe than you being

557
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: somewhere else.

558
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: I get very what do you do?

559
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I also can't say no. I can't say no.

560
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: But it's to the point where I have, Oh my god,

561
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: I think between all of them, I probably have like

562
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: not just my five kids. I probably have like at

563
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: times ten kids, not just here at my house on

564
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: the weekends, but like sleeping over and it's and I

565
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: hear screaming all night and life three sixty. I'm tracking

566
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: them like, Oh, we're just gonna go to the mall.

567
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: You're not the mall whose house is done. I'm like, yeah,

568
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: just just come here.

569
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

570
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: I fear weekends and now summer. I'm gonna fear all

571
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: of summer because it can be any night. And my

572
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 1: ex says, tell them no, not tell them they can't

573
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: sleep over. And so he said, you need, you know, structure,

574
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: and you need to say no, like this is your house.

575
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: My daughter wouldn't insisted to have friends always constantly sleep

576
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: over or stay assistant. My daughter never even did Sundays,

577
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: so Sunday was my day. I always to say to

578
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: I will fly back from wherever I am in the

579
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: world because I had to do a lot of weekend

580
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: warrior stuff. I was a single mom, and I hoped Sunday,

581
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 2: I go Sundays my day. She goes, can Area come can?

582
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: So I always had three four children, that's the norm.

583
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: But with the sleeping over, she's like, can Area stay over.

584
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: Can I go go so school night? No? I get it,

585
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: but you, I mean, I don't know who you're having

586
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: the most difficulty with. Is it the girls? The seventeen

587
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: year old girl, the twelve year old girl? Wow, I

588
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: mean I don't know where to begin with you.

589
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: The twelve year old boy has you know, and boys

590
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: at that age? Thirteen year old girl, thirteen year old girl,

591
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: she's fine, she'll have yeah, she'll have some friends over.

592
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: They're not the issue. It's like the twelve year old

593
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: boy because their boys are loud and they're just like

594
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: everywhere and.

595
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: Let's see pigs.

596
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: All my kids are messy. I'm messy, oh man. But yeah,

597
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean right now we're talking, and if I go

598
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: into any room, there's multiple Yeah, because two are doing homeschool,

599
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: so they feel like they can have friends over whenever.

600
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: I know, I know, well, toy that that's on you.

601
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: You know what I can is ever, I need so

602
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: much structure and I'm so ocd if that painting's just

603
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: a little tilted like everything in my house. My kids

604
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: every day, my living was like I was like, you

605
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: just clean all day. You pick them up, bring them

606
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: home and let me see what they're doing. They kind

607
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: of make their bed. I was like a drill sergeant.

608
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: They'll tell you that.

609
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: Oh God, I wish I hadn't known you back then.

610
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: I wish you would help me through that part.

611
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: Why would you want to be that tough on them?

612
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: Or they probably tough, but there's a happy medium. I'm

613
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: too loosey goosey. I let them do whatever, and then

614
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I have to tell them to clean

615
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: this up and do it, I'm like, screw it. I'm

616
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: just gonna do it myself. No.

617
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: See, that's bad. What are you doing. You're setting them

618
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: up for failure in the sense that you are not

619
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: creating adults responsible people, Like what do they have that

620
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: they really love and take care of? My son tried

621
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: this crap with me with the first cars. He got

622
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: an accident within two weeks brand new car got him

623
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen. Hey, you're doing great in school. Crashed it.

624
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, is this gonna be like a thing

625
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: like you think the remorse? I mean when we got

626
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: a car, it was like Fredom, He's like, oh, let

627
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: me just go into the hove lane and see got

628
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: a four hundred dollars ticket. I was like, dude, you

629
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: think you're impervious. Clean the hob you know, like he

630
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: went and got the hoblane, the high occupancy you know,

631
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 2: the one where it's multiple passengers in the car. He

632
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: was rolling down there to himself because he wont carpooling.

633
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: Yes, New York.

634
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: Times high occupancy. What does the A stand for? That's

635
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: why I always Why is it high occupancy? I don't

636
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: even understand. Just say carpool. Listen to you old school

637
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: carpool carble.

638
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh god. And I'm I'm the cool mom,

639
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: like were you like were you friends with your kids

640
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: and their friends? Though yes and.

641
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: No they saw me as the badass and yes and no,

642
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: like I love, I like my daughter's friends, but I'm

643
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: very much on the respect level, like I really needed

644
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: my kids respect. There were two of them against me,

645
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: and two of them and me, five of them and

646
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: you and then you have against you. Oh yeah. I

647
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: had seven cameras up in my house at one point

648
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 2: watching these kids doing crap like you have never understand

649
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: LEVI would would an it person out because I had

650
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: my business management running out of my house at one

651
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: point for five years. And I've never seen anybody Jack

652
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: up my it because he was just watching a lot

653
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: of crap with a lot of his friends. I'm getting

654
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: ridden devices e O r N. That's an The big

655
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: problem porn, well, the fact that they get they are

656
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: exposed to anything and everything, and we actually give them

657
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: thousand dollars devices to do it with, and it's it's

658
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: kind of criminal. There shouldn't even be anywhere near the

659
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: internet for a long.

660
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: Time they're on their devices twenty four to seven.

661
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: It's not a good thing like gaming. If you say

662
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: you're raised they were raised by you and your values

663
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: and your morals, it's not really true anymore because if

664
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: they are I mean, I understand what the homeschool kids,

665
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: but if they are online and getting information and being

666
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: exposed to so much misinformation and quite frankly, not your

667
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: values and not your moral you're having a battle. It's

668
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: a battle with things that are not real. In my perspection,

669
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: they're not real. I agree, I agree my.

670
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: Twelve year old. Like they're wheelers and dealers now they.

671
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: Think they are until you say go ahead, we'll and

672
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: deal yourself into an apartment and right, But like.

673
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: The twelve year olds, this is all like the twelve

674
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen year old boys, they like they will sell

675
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: things to make money.

676
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: Good for that.

677
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, So my twelve year old is trying to convince me,

678
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: not convince me. Fine, he's mentioned it many times that

679
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: he really thinks that I should go on feed finder.

680
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: Feed Finder? What's feed finder?

681
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: He's looking at, Mitch.

682
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: Well, it ain't only fans, what is it?

683
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like an only fans for feet. First of all,

684
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: this kid told me about it. He started pitching this

685
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: like three years ago and he's twelve, and I'm like, yea, oh,

686
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: what is this? It is fans people post photos of

687
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: their feet and they make money, and there's like niches

688
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: like some you know, people have fetishes. They want pictures

689
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: of dirty feet, they want pictures of weird toes, they

690
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: want pictures. Anyway, he taught me this and he's like

691
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: and he's like mom, He's like, you're Tory spelling, and

692
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: he pitches this, you're the og Donna Martin imagine money

693
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: saying you would make and he knows if I make money,

694
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: I make it for them, you would make putting pictures

695
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: of your feet online.

696
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: That's not as bad as OnlyFans. My son had me

697
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: up on only fans for one day. I was like,

698
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: what am I doing?

699
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: You're an only fans?

700
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is when it first like he

701
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: was like your kid, But I was like, what do

702
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: you mean. He goes, Oh, all the housewives are doing

703
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: it now, it's not a big deal. You just go

704
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: on there. Let me let me hook up your subscriptions

705
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: and let me get he I didn't know. He goes,

706
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: I go, dude. Seventeen people just called me up and said, dude,

707
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: what are you doing on OnlyFans? And I go, I

708
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: don't know. If I said leeve, I said, you know, LEVI,

709
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: I said LEVI, I said, they said get it down.

710
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: But you know, did the press find out before he

711
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: took it down? Yeah?

712
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no. It was on and off within three hours,

713
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: four hours.

714
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: I have so many industry girlfriends that have tried to

715
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: talk me into going on only fans.

716
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Well, honey, you got five kids, and I don't know,

717
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: but you're a Tory, and believe me, you look at

718
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Drea I mean, look at Denise Richard. They're making a killing.

719
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: But you know you have to be in that mindset

720
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: of I don't know if you can handle it.

721
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean, my seventeen year old who just got her license,

722
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: and it's just like, gone, yeah, but getting straight a's

723
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: I'm proud. Whatever. But she's like, mom, if you ever

724
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: go on only fans, that would embarrass me.

725
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: It would.

726
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: She also tells me, I can't date those, so it's

727
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: just it's no one. Well that's are you on cameo?

728
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Of course I'm on Cameo? Oh sorry, dove, are you? Yeah?

729
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, good little. I mean it's kind of slowed down.

730
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: It's it is what it is.

731
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: Camo's legit though, that's like, that's okay, Hey, that.

732
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 2: Ain't only fans. That's just like a shout out. Yeah,

733
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: I sing a note, I sing birthdays, happy anniversaries. Sure,

734
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: of course that's legit. That's a different thing. Only fans

735
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: is a whole other thing.

736
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a lot more money. Well, of course

737
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: you can, you know, but that's like last resort, last

738
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: resort if my career is completely burned down, and I'm

739
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: just like I'll be like okay, here I go. Okay,

740
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I don't want to be on

741
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: a dating app. I want friends to set me up.

742
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Isn't that the old school way? Like a friend's like,

743
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: oh I have a friend.

744
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: This girl.

745
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess one friend has set me up in

746
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: It's been two years and I'm like, I'm like, what's

747
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: wrong with me? Slim pickens, It's like, what's wrong with me?

748
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: It's like when me too happens and I was like,

749
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: no one me to me like nothing. I was like,

750
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: is something wrong with me? You gotta do.

751
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: You got to do your own search, You gotta you

752
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: gotta do.

753
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Not doing it?

754
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Well, try potentially, do you know anyone to ask you

755
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: pants his pants have a friend.

756
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: I'll try camping. I've never been in my life. I'll

757
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: do it.

758
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Let me see what pants has I like him from TV.

759
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do it.

760
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: No, I mean they just racing the Baja five hundred.

761
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: You can't even deal with that kind of dirt.

762
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I can do dirt.

763
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: No, No, this is like I was showing my friends

764
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: some of the like yeah, no really the race Like

765
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: that's like her boy weekend for him.

766
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: But you go, you go, I see it as I'm not.

767
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: On the phone with you. He just got back last time.

768
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: Is he riding motorcycles dirt bikes? No?

769
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: These are big trucks. Big trucks.

770
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I like big trucks.

771
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you I could see liking that part of it.

772
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: I like that. I like.

773
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: Truck truck off road, Baha's off Road five hundred miles.

774
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: That's hardcore stuff. Some of those got you know. But yeah,

775
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: you love car racing and stuff. You know, it's fast

776
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: and furious. And then I also did went to polo

777
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: the other day, so there you go on hundreds of

778
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: men winter polo have no up in Santa Barbara Polos.

779
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: The seasons just started. Went to beautiful men, men dressed up.

780
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: It's always nice. Horses and men are beautiful?

781
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: Are we talking pretty woman? Shit? Here? What do you

782
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: mean now?

783
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: I just because I go to the dirt. I used

784
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: to go to the derby like or I have gone

785
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: for twenty years. I mean and tons of men, tons

786
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: of things. You just got to go to activities and

787
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 2: things that they like.

788
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: And they who them.

789
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: You don't want to date, then that's that I.

790
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Want to find love. I told my friend recently. I

791
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to die on our owns.

792
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: You needed to pick somebody and meet them. Horse horse

793
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: racing and going to del Mar and all that stuff.

794
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that. I grew up. My dad had

795
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: we were at like Hollywood Delmar do that. Ooh, I

796
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: like that.

797
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.

798
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm a betting kind of girl.

799
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: All the guys, Oh, we should go to Vegas. Vegas

800
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: is sloppy for me, but yeah, I guess we could

801
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: do it. But I mean it's just hit and miss guy.

802
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: It's very transient. I mean, and you know you gotta

803
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: pop around to you know, I guess you could. I

804
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: don't mind Vegas.

805
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: I don't care.

806
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I just go where I go. But like,

807
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: you know, you got to troll around there to find

808
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: it's not.

809
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Meeting guys there. It would just be a fun girls weekend.

810
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: It is fun.

811
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: We like, so this is actually our time, not that

812
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: either of us ever went away. And I'm not comparing

813
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: myself to you because you're a legend in icon and like,

814
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: but it's a different it's a different beast. You know,

815
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: you're in a different world than me. But I mean,

816
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: the eighties in nineties, it's like, finally, I just remember

817
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: like six years ago, having seven years ago having to

818
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: be like I'm a celebrity turned influencer because I was like, well,

819
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a working girl, so I'm gonna I'm

820
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna change with the times because you got to. But

821
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: now they're all gone. All they care about is us

822
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties girls. Am I wrong?

823
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: I'm not. You're not wrong about anything. It's just the

824
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: time is right, the put the fruit is, the fruit

825
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: is full, and I'm just hard. You stand around long enough,

826
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: you get to sit down, and the point is why bother?

827
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: I love standing up? Oh, you're right in it.

828
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: Have you ever done a residency in Vegas and you

829
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: hate Vegas? I'm like going back to it? A residency

830
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: in Vegas?

831
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'd love that. I think it would be

832
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: another great another great venue to have as a I

833
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: call them kind of like anchors, and I love that.

834
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: And performing live for me is everything I really have,

835
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: you know, for thirty seven years, that's been my biggest thing. Obviously,

836
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: I made a lot of great records and I have

837
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: a lot of great hit songs, but performing live has

838
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: turned me. I've evolved. My show is just getting better

839
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: and better and better. Costume. I really bring it in

840
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: the big dogs now and I'm just loving it. And

841
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: that connection. You can never ever take that. You know,

842
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: one thing being an actress another thing when you perform

843
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: and you're out there with a different audience every night,

844
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: and the magic, the energy, the transference is real. It's beautiful.

845
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Live, live is amazing. It's a great feeling. And you

846
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: get to connect with the people that have, yeah, like

847
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: your comfort to them because they've been fans of yours

848
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: for so long that you know, the world's a different

849
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: place right now. And all top people, children's children. I've

850
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: watched generations.

851
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: We're in LGBT, we're in Pride Month, my my people

852
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: that were at the gay my first Prides or anything.

853
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: Think about thirty seven years ago when tell It to

854
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: mahar came out the gay the gay community embraced me

855
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: and what that showed me. I've seen families, marriages, I've

856
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: seen babies that were named after me through you know,

857
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: and now marriages and children and family. I mean, it's

858
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: incredible to see it. So I've watched so many different

859
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: journeys through so many different fans, and then also through

860
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: my biggest supporter, you know, the biggest supporters of my career,

861
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: the tran the you know, the drag queens with the

862
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: biggest support ever in my career. I came out with

863
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: that crimpy, crazy hair and everything I mean, come on, girl,

864
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: think about it. So live is everything because I get

865
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: to meet when I have the opportunity and also perform.

866
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: But you know, you have to raise the bar. You must,

867
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: like my production must.

868
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: You have to evolve, of course, and it must.

869
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: You know, I'm representing twenty twenty five and I'm representing

870
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: my health, my wellness, my melt kill state of mind,

871
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: and also my creativity. My creativity is coming out through

872
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: the work you're seeing on stage now, through my media.

873
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: Now we're trying on you know, we work on all

874
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: levels now. And the fans love it, of course they do,

875
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: and I love them like I get off on it.

876
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: So find a hobby, get off on it. This is

877
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: isn't a hobby for me. I'm lucky and privileged that

878
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: this is my business, my passion, my heart, my career.

879
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: It's so much like I'm not Taylor Dane. You know,

880
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: if somebody said, if we took your voice away, what

881
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: would you It would be rough as ship. But I

882
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: still think.

883
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: You put back on only fans.

884
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: I mean I maybe go to the only fans.

885
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't check our feed find or I've

886
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 1: seen a feature. I don't know, Finn says.

887
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: I will say, but you know, the pedicure has to

888
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: be on.

889
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: Oh duh, yeah, Finn says, and you.

890
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: Said sloppy and messy. They want pig feet too. That's crazy.

891
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: Well for those yeah, that's yeah, that's a whole different beast.

892
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: Your children know this. That's sad. Of course, it's ridiculous.

893
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: It's so crazy. Like if I like, we're talking about

894
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: this and you're inspiring me so much right now, and

895
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: then I have to think about like, gosh, I started

896
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: as your fan and I'm privileged enough to be friends

897
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: with you, and it's just like what a fucking journey.

898
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: Life is a concert? That's what we should do. Just

899
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: go girl, let's go.

900
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: To the ball. Scared of concerts, I'm not listen, that's

901
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: the old me. My friend says, I'm Tory two point zero. Well,

902
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: he said, I'm not.

903
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: We'll go to a concert. Let's go to see something

904
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: like yeah, that's where it's game on. Let's go see music.

905
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: And I come on tour with you, eh?

906
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: Can she come on tour?

907
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: Mitch? It's not gladtch not glamorous, dude, you get it,

908
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: I trust me, I get it.

909
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: No, I know you don't stop. No, you don't stop.

910
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: Well I have, I mean things have happened. I raised kids,

911
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, I've had moments and you know through medical

912
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: I know. But you but no, what your brain doesn't stop.

913
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: Your love of the game.

914
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: I love of the game is very high.

915
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: I love that. Did you have that moment when your

916
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: kids were teenagers? When kids would come over and be like,

917
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: do you know where your mom is?

918
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: No, they'd go in the trophy room, and in the

919
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: trophy room. My kids could give a shit, but there

920
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: was a trophie room and they go in that trophy

921
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: room and they only told me different times. I'd hear

922
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: the trophy you mean like a war like mom. No,

923
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: she goes, I watch your videos when you're in the nineties,

924
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: like it's Cray Mom, like Cray of course they're so

925
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 2: like West Coast and she goes, you sounded so like yeah,

926
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: you know. I was like, wow, you watch my videos?

927
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: Like you watch all these things, these interviews. They'll never

928
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: tell you to your face they don't.

929
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: Nah, my kids don't watch, but all you know how

930
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: they know, like even like my twelve year old, Like

931
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: if I said, oh, do you know Taylor Dane, he'd

932
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: be like yes, because on TikTok all the like clips

933
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: now are coming back in the music videos and the

934
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: clips of me and I Know two and Oho and

935
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: like scary movie. Like it's just yeah, no.

936
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 2: It's great. It's great, and they'll educate you on my son.

937
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: You is obviously big and he manages a lot of influencers.

938
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: But he he's like, you need to do a duet

939
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: with this guy. Look at this guy. And I'm like, right, guys,

940
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: got like point eight million, I'm doing it. Tell him

941
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: a right, nobody's naked. He goes, well, just do it

942
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 2: in your version. Mom, you half the time you have

943
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: no shirts on? Anyway, who are you kidding? And he's like,

944
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: just get like, okay, they're on it.

945
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: They're on the sickest body, Like, uh, legs for days.

946
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Not me, I'm little, little, but you got legs for days.

947
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: Hell more than half your body or your.

948
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: Leg There's something about that, like it's well proportion, like

949
00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: we we we work hard for it. Now. I eat accordingly.

950
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: I work hard for it and because I feel better

951
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: and I feel unstoppable. Strength is everything.

952
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, where are you going next?

953
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: I know you're going to nothing too crazy. I'm gonna

954
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: go check on that ninety and ninety four year old,

955
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: because that's my jam. I'm going to Florida. I have

956
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: a place in Miami and my parents live in del Rey,

957
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: So I do that. Bring pants just in case we

958
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 2: need to fix some things immediately. You go right through everything.

959
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: Oh I don't mess around with the old people. My

960
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 2: girlfriend Celeste will be there.

961
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: Bring them here.

962
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: Dude, if you need help, I got you help.

963
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: What kind of help?

964
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: Help? Like anything around the house, like if you need help,

965
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: like I exactly.

966
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: I grew up in an a house where I didn't

967
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: learn to and learn to do laundry. I wasn't taught

968
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: any of that, you know, So and then I went

969
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: into a marriage where he fixed everything and now I'm

970
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: just left to do he I'm like, I don't want

971
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: to fix a fucking light bulb.

972
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: Yes you do.

973
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, wait, I didn't realize that you did

974
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: celebrity drag race.

975
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god it. I mean how I that the

976
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: mic on for me because the rest of this is

977
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: just choreography and dancing and that's not my jam. Like,

978
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like no way a J McLean killed

979
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: killed the room, put on all the boobies, the prosthetics.

980
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 2: I was like, you are no crazy. I did it. Yeah,

981
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: well ruise my leg years and years. What a supporter

982
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: of human being? What a beautiful human?

983
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? He really great human?

984
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 2: Great, she is amazing human being.

985
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: So agreed.

986
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: Yes, he calls me, I go, what's up? I'll do it?

987
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I should do that show. People say I

988
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: look like a drag queen anyway, and I might as well.

989
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: All of the balls or guest judge whatever, he's you know,

990
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: that's family.

991
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: We do it. And we both did mass singer very different.

992
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: Versions because I loved it. I loved it.

993
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: I loved it too.

994
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: I loved it too. I mean, were you nervous because

995
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: it's a different Oh, I am going pretty far. So

996
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: it was past nervous because but like they start, when

997
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: you first started, were you like, it's different thing in

998
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: a mask behind something and the costume was genius, and

999
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, I'm just gonna we're gonna go

1000
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: down this list of songs and we're gonna kill it. No,

1001
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: not that kind of nervous, but being nervous on stage

1002
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 2: because everything was live my inside in this cannon. You know.

1003
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's what I mean.

1004
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: That's just a different because my voice is everything to me.

1005
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 2: So I was like, this is blows. I'm singing out

1006
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: of my eyehole, like come on. And then, of course,

1007
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, we're doing my vocals upstairs. But I was like,

1008
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,959
Speaker 2: it got to a point where I got really like, guys,

1009
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 2: we have to use my pre record. Guys, we're using

1010
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: the live version here. Like it just I fell I

1011
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 2: almost fell off the you know, it's precarious, it's real deal.

1012
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: I loved it. It was very very competitive.

1013
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: I pre record, it's live. What do you mean?

1014
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, but you always have to re record

1015
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: your vocals affair. You could fall off the stage at

1016
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 2: any minute. The smoke bomb. It's unbelievable. I get it.

1017
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, no I and I loved it because

1018
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: everyone has such preconceived notions about me, and as soon

1019
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: as it's oh, it's toy spelling, it's like, uh, you know,

1020
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, you know what, let's let's

1021
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: see what they think now if they don't know.

1022
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: What to me.

1023
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: Being spelling. I loved being the unicorn.

1024
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, anonymity it is great. And they're great judges, They're

1025
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: just great people. We know them all for one hundred years.

1026
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, like you beat up, like, you know.

1027
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: Come on corn popcorn pop pop pop. Yeah. I had

1028
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: a great time.

1029
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: Who won that season?

1030
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: It was me, Leanne and At Carter Nick Leanne one. Yeah,

1031
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: so we came down to the last three. Yeah, but

1032
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: the singers on that, I mean, that's a tough clen

1033
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: Nick Carter.

1034
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell, dude, Well, it's not

1035
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: like you lost to like an influencers.

1036
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 2: First of all. Yeah, you know it was, but Leanne

1037
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 2: what in her voice? It is so angelic. She's become

1038
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: a true artist. She's truly elevated, and you know, it's

1039
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: a joy to work with her. I saw her we

1040
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: did a thing at Carnegie Hall recently for Diane Warren

1041
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: and like it was weird because she and I were

1042
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: the original, you know, performers and singers of this song.

1043
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: You know, I did Love Will Lead You Back. It

1044
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: was like a thirty five year anniversary and she's there

1045
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: and Clive's there and then Leanne you know, did how

1046
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: to Well Live. You know, it was just pretty amazing.

1047
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: It was a beautiful night.

1048
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: So much and you're dancing. I love your dancing. Yeah,

1049
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: all right, I love this. Okay, one last question. All right,

1050
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: Taylor Dean, you have done everything. What is one thing

1051
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: you have never done that you want to do?

1052
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: Win an Academy Award for Best Original Song.

1053
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: Great, you just said it, you put it out there,

1054
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: you manifested it. It's happening.

1055
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: It's time.

1056
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: You mean you already won. That's what you're supposed to say.

1057
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: I already won.

1058
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did. Just thank me your speech. Thank you.

1059
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: I love you and me.

1060
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: You're a manifesto. I love you, sweetheart, I love you.

1061
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: I love you very much. Okay, we're gaining together soon.

1062
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Darcy is glue and I stay with her, so

1063
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: we'll go. Okay, perfect.

1064
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: I love you.

1065
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: You're beautiful. I love you too. Thank you for this time.

1066
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 2: Thank you guys.

1067
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: Friend.

1068
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: Bye, My love m