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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys, This is media Mash, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders

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Speaker 2: trumping wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state

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Speaker 2: of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Now your host new he scrugs.

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Speaker 4: Media Mash, Media Mash Today, We're gonna have some fun.

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Speaker 5: Let's bringing that enthusiasm, joy and passion.

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Speaker 4: Baby No Backstead is talking Ron Washington today about that baby,

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Speaker 4: So joy and passions. We've got the Hall of Famer

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Speaker 4: Edwarders here. He is the author. He is John Jacques

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Speaker 4: Taylor working on a new book. That is it going

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Speaker 4: to be this year's release? I know you won't get

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Speaker 4: next year.

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Speaker 6: Next year?

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Speaker 7: Yes, Okay, who's the subject? Oh, we're not talking about that,

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Speaker 7: but sports.

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Speaker 5: Oh we're not sports. A sports figure, sports and leader

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Speaker 5: could be, could be a Cowboys Cowboys figure.

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Speaker 6: John John spent a whole lot of time in college

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Speaker 6: with Coach Prime.

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Speaker 4: By the way, when I go to the library, I still,

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Speaker 4: you know, I still I still see the Coach Prime

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Speaker 4: book over there.

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Speaker 7: That kind of paper book should be out some Okay,

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Speaker 7: has anybody checked it out?

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Speaker 6: It's a hard copy. I've checked it out. You've checked

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Speaker 6: it out, yes, And he also gave me an autograph copies.

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Speaker 5: Right, not me all I all the time I spent

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Speaker 5: with this young man, developing his skill set, trusting me out,

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Speaker 5: admonishing him when it was necessary, teaching him joy and.

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Speaker 7: Passion, definitely passion. What copy wasn't much joy in that

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Speaker 7: Philadelphia press box till two o'clock while the agony writer

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Speaker 7: was arguing with the editor, and I was too new

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Speaker 7: to be like, I'm fin to take a cab, I

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Speaker 7: hollered you later.

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Speaker 5: You gotta believe in what you're writing, man, him, and

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Speaker 5: stand for it frasier and ali over over just all

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Speaker 5: night long.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 6: That's that's why I remember it so clearly, as.

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Speaker 5: You well know from your time work, because if your inconvenience,

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Speaker 5: that's what you remember about it.

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Speaker 4: Your time working meets if I. You know, we just

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Speaker 4: got to do it. We did it, and now ed

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Speaker 4: you're over chan lay. You know there's no editor, know

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Speaker 4: that it's do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what you want to say?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they trust you, they'd.

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Speaker 5: Like here, yeah, remarkably, Yes, it's Super Bowl week?

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Speaker 6: Have you really dialed into it at all?

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Speaker 5: It's not the same as being there obviously. I mean

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Speaker 5: for twenty plus years, you know, Sal covered a team

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Speaker 5: and I covered the other team, and you were responsible

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Speaker 5: for every single thing that happened. I mean I I

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Speaker 5: covered the Raiders when the Barrett Barrett Robin's story broke

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Speaker 5: about gone game day? Where was he? Why was he

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Speaker 5: not in the hotel? Why was he not in the country.

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Speaker 5: I also was covering the Falcons and had to wake

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Speaker 5: Dan Reeves up the morning of the game about the

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Speaker 5: Eugene Robinson arrest. So, yeah, there have been a few

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Speaker 5: things I've had to cover of some scale that are

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Speaker 5: far beyond what we're doing here today.

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Speaker 7: He was trying to play with joy and passion.

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Speaker 5: Is that what their names were?

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Speaker 6: Perhaps Man a year NFL Man of the Year?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Yes, Do you feel like what we give you paid

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Speaker 6: attention at all?

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Speaker 7: I paid one? Let me press it. No, I have

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Speaker 7: not paid any attention to it. Two. Over the years,

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Speaker 7: I have developed a real disdain for pregame chatter, like,

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Speaker 7: I don't like it at all. I don't watch pregame

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Speaker 7: shows during the season. It's just a bunch of superfluous

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Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah, blah.

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Speaker 5: I've spent a lot of time like analyzing the matchup

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Speaker 5: and gathering statistical information that I find to be fascinating

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Speaker 5: for to share in situations like this.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I don't mind an occasional statstat but all this,

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Speaker 7: I mean it's just too much.

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Speaker 6: So this is beauty. This is beautiful.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you said it, ed because you know the

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Speaker 4: third person, Newie Scrungs, has been doing Cowboys and Luca Dutch.

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Speaker 6: That's what my last week was.

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Speaker 7: No, that's all Luca Baby.

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Speaker 5: And Cowboys coaching hires and Elka being traded.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know the hired to run back. Okay, great, Yes,

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Speaker 4: he was like, let's hear from Anthony Davis. So that's

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Speaker 4: where I've been in that. I've been in that in

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Speaker 4: that hole. So Philadelphia is a point and a half favorite.

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Speaker 4: Here are we talking enough about their defense because that

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Speaker 4: if they win this game, it's gonna have to be

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Speaker 4: with a supreme defensive effort.

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Speaker 5: Well, Philadelphia is the first team since the ninety two

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Speaker 5: Cowboys to go into the Super Bowl with the NFL's

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Speaker 5: leading rusher Saquon Barkley and the league's number one defense.

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Speaker 5: The Cowboys obviously did it with Emmett Smith and that

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Speaker 5: Charles Haley led defense back in nineteen ninety two and

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Speaker 5: they won the Super Bowl. And I mean the Eagles

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Speaker 5: have what they've got the number one defense in football

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Speaker 5: under Vic Fangio. I think, just overall, the Eagles are

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Speaker 5: going to be a real challenge for the Chiefs across

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Speaker 5: the board. I think the thing the Eagles have to

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Speaker 5: do to win the game is force Mahomes to hold

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Speaker 5: the ball. If his first receivers open, he's going to

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Speaker 5: beat you. And and he generally has gotten it out quick.

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia has been, you know, dominant in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 5: mean thrown on a scoring tear. Uh, They've got ten

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Speaker 5: takeaways and not turned the ball over yet. Nobody's done

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Speaker 5: that going into a Super Bowl. In fact, this is

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Speaker 5: the this is the first Super Bowl where the two

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Speaker 5: starting quarterbacks have gone entered the game having a streak

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Speaker 5: of more than two hundred consecutive passes without an interception.

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Speaker 7: Now, see, all of that is great, and it makes sense,

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Speaker 7: and I buy into it, except at the end of

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Speaker 7: the day, you go, you're gonna take Mahomes, You're gonna

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Speaker 7: take Hurts, You're gonna take Andy Reid, you're gonna take Sirianni. Now,

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Speaker 7: Spagnola might be a push with Fangio, but still it's Spagnola.

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Speaker 7: And so at the three key spots, I picked the Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: That's why it's hired for me to bet against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: And if the game is closed in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 7: I believe in Mahomes magic. Now ain't the only one, obviously,

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Speaker 7: but that's how I get done well.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts and Sirianni have not won an away game

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Speaker 5: in the postseason in their careers, and they've not won

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Speaker 5: a neutral site game yet in their careers. But they

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Speaker 5: almost did, and it was against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, Hurts is now I say out, but

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Speaker 7: Hurts tends to be a big game player, so you know.

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Speaker 5: Well he had a historic day the last time in

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl against the Chiefs with the three touchdown runs,

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Speaker 5: seventy yards rushing, three hundred yards passing.

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Speaker 7: I expect the same kind of game, really the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 7: end of the game. Who got the ball, go make

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody's all that. It seems all that excited about

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Speaker 5: the matchup. I know, we just saw it, but it

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Speaker 5: was a great game.

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Speaker 4: It's a great game, man, because the Chiefs have gone

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Speaker 4: on to this other next level of it. I think

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Speaker 4: we've kind of forgotten that what Philadelphia did in the game.

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Speaker 4: I was telling somebody about Jayleen Hurtson. This guy's had

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Speaker 4: two championship games where he did all he could. The

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Speaker 4: lead and then you know, de Shahn Watson just happened

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Speaker 4: to go take Clemson right down the field and win

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Speaker 4: that football game. So it's like Jalen did, he did

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Speaker 4: his part right, he did his part. Saban's defense didn't

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Speaker 4: hold up. And then of course in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: you couldn't ask him to do more. Mean he he

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Speaker 4: did his part.

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Speaker 5: To be fumbled and it was returned for a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, you could ask him not to fumble this

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Speaker 5: time and the game could be different.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, fair point. But overall, you know, you you know.

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Speaker 5: If you're if you take that game every time, if.

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Speaker 4: He gives you, if he came back and gave you

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Speaker 4: those same numbers this Sunday, you'd.

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Speaker 7: Say, okay, okay, yeah, but you know, Andy Reid had

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Speaker 7: something special for him because that's what he do.

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Speaker 4: So obviously Andy Reid is got a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 4: resume at this point time. What about someone like Steve Spagnolo, who, oh,

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Speaker 4: by the way, was the defensive coordinator for the New

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Speaker 4: York Giants when Belichick's undefeated Patriots went out to Arizona

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Speaker 4: and they won that football game and held them to

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Speaker 4: fourteen points.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, where created all kinds of pressure on Braidon Brady

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Speaker 5: that he had not seen and did not respond well

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Speaker 4: Right, Where does a guy like that start to fit

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Speaker 4: in to this new NFL where they are bringing in

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Speaker 4: like we saw Dick lebou finally get into the Pro

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Speaker 4: Football Hall Fames, Like, where do we see a stee

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Speaker 4: Spagnola who's now got four Super Bowl rings as an

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Speaker 7: Could get it which is the most.

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Speaker 5: He already has the most, and he has a chance

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Speaker 5: to get another one this weekend.

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Speaker 7: But now I think he's finally I think I think

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Speaker 7: it all falls down to people in the league know

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Speaker 7: you're really good, you're great, and then it finally for

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Speaker 7: somebody like him, then it finally starts to seep into

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Speaker 7: the media, and then you start getting attention. Like last

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Speaker 7: in the last game they played, you know it was.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't just that he called the blitz that they

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Speaker 7: hadn't seen all year. He called a corner blitz that

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Speaker 7: they hadn't seen on Those are kinds of things you

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Speaker 7: hear when people have respect for you and they start

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Speaker 5: Saved it for exactly and yeah, the biggest moment in

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Speaker 7: And why do we remember all of this because they

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Speaker 7: So now it's kind of in your conscience, like, oh,

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Speaker 7: what's Maagnola got for him this this week? And then

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Speaker 7: what's he saved for the fourth quarter to unveil something

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Speaker 7: that Jalen Hurst hadn't seen? And will it work?

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Speaker 5: And to the Hall of Fame question, I mean, you're right,

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Speaker 5: a coach. It's still remarkable to me that. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think this year's finalist is Mike Holmgren and Mike

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Speaker 5: Shannan's not in yet. Mike Shanahan won back to back

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Speaker 5: Super Bowls and we still see people running the Shanahan offense,

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Speaker 5: including Shanahan's own son, who's had a remarkable amount of

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Speaker 5: success using it in San Francisco. But I think ultimately

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Speaker 5: when they debated and when he becomes a candidate, he's

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Speaker 5: going to have the backing of the New York media,

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Speaker 5: which will be a significant factor in determining whether he

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Speaker 5: gets in or not.

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Speaker 7: Too.

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Speaker 6: It's it's just ironic.

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Speaker 4: And I think about even the coaching search that Jerry had,

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Speaker 4: I got like, see, Spagnola should have been on the list.

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Speaker 4: When I think about how well dan Quinn adjusted and

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Speaker 4: I think, but you know, Spagnol should have been a

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Speaker 7: As he worked here before. No, okay, damn well, well, yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's just as it's always interesting to me and I

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Speaker 5: It's very interesting on who gets these well, you mentioned

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Speaker 4: All right, getting ready to go to break here. We'll

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Chiefs in a historic three p

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Speaker 6: Four, JJT what you got?

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Speaker 7: You know, it was changing my school because I think

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Speaker 4: Thirty one, twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: A part of me wants to go with Philadelphia from

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 5: Remember remember last time these two's teams played in the

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Speaker 4: Give me a close football game twenty six, twenty four,

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Speaker 4: During the break, we're sitting around here talking about Luca,

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Speaker 7: And look that's because I'm uh, you know, I've got

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Speaker 5: and Jason Garrett, and they combined to win two playoff

443
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Speaker 5: games in whatever the thirteen years fifteen years they were coaches.

444
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Speaker 5: Jason won two right.

445
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Speaker 4: Camps was five and eleven three, then he helped.

446
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Speaker 7: Get the cap break, give me his credit.

447
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's not worked. And then since nine what

448
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 5: is what is your two thousand and anyway? Whatever the year?

449
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Speaker 5: In recent year, the last seven times an NFL franchise

450
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Speaker 5: has promoted from within that head coach has made it

451
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Speaker 5: done one and done four times. And only one of

452
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Speaker 5: those coaches in the last five years is still with

453
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Speaker 5: the team as the head coach.

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Speaker 7: If any of those coaches have been promoted from a loser,

455
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Speaker 7: so Todd Bowles.

456
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Speaker 5: Todd Bowles is the only one.

457
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Speaker 4: Todd Bowles is the exception that I can think of

458
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Speaker 4: talk about that, and he was the defensive Cordeona on

459
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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl winning team.

460
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Speaker 5: Pru Bruce Arians and then Arians retired.

461
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, so it's not work.

462
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Speaker 5: But I would say the one thing that makes sense

463
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Speaker 5: to me about doing it this way is moving, you know,

464
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Speaker 5: keeping some continuity within the offensive system, but making a

465
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Speaker 5: change of note as or so they believe that they have,

466
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Speaker 5: is that I don't think if you want to run

467
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Speaker 5: the football more and that be a significant part of

468
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Speaker 5: your identity on offense, I don't think McCarthy was ever

469
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Speaker 5: going to do that. And so to me, that's the

470
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Speaker 5: part of it that makes justifies Brian Schottenheimer because Schottenheimer

471
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Speaker 5: has led the league in rushing as a play caller

472
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Speaker 5: twice in Seattle, and so if that's the way you

473
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Speaker 5: want to play, McCarthy wasn't taking you there.

474
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Speaker 4: Agree, it was one of the things where I would

475
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Speaker 4: defend Ezekiel Elliott in his contract. It's like you when

476
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Speaker 4: Jason Garrett was here, you ran the ball. You gave

477
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Speaker 4: a contract to a guy who who believed in the

478
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Speaker 4: run game.

479
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Speaker 6: He had a guy who could run the ball.

480
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Speaker 4: Then he went out and hired a passing a guy

481
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Speaker 4: who wants to pass passing coach. And so when people

482
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Speaker 4: were like well, he's overpays over this mine if we

483
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Speaker 4: have if we're being a little bit fair towards Elliott

484
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Speaker 4: in the contract he was hired.

485
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Speaker 6: You gave him that contract based on we're gonna.

486
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Speaker 5: Run Jason Garrett right, Jason the offensive line, the brandishing

487
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Speaker 5: run game identity, and Garrett was going out of contract

488
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Speaker 5: and was being forced to proof he could win. And

489
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Speaker 5: he prevailed upon Jerry that that's not fair to me,

490
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Speaker 5: to me in that situation if I don't have my

491
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Speaker 5: best player, Like Jason thought his best player was Ezekiel Elliott,

492
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Speaker 5: and Mike always believed his best player is Stak Prescott

493
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Speaker 5: and that was never gonna chang. The first thing I

494
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Speaker 5: said to people when they hired McCarthy was, Zeke Elliott

495
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Speaker 5: is done winning Russian championships in Dallas. You were correct,

496
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Speaker 5: because Mike was somebody even in Green Bay, who talked

497
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Speaker 5: about the importance of running the game and what the

498
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Speaker 5: number needed to be every week, and that number was seldom,

499
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Speaker 5: if ever reached. It just was an a priority.

500
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Speaker 4: Won a cowboy won a game with the Cabiny the

501
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Speaker 4: playoffs with David Montgomery a running back, I mean a

502
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Speaker 4: wide receiver going running.

503
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Speaker 5: Back and how have Jerry and Steven experienced success with

504
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Speaker 5: running base man?

505
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Speaker 7: Right?

506
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Speaker 5: Running with football defense.

507
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Speaker 7: That's what they do.

508
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Speaker 4: That and just the history of the franchise back to

509
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Speaker 4: Dwayne Thomas, who should have been doing to be a

510
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl.

511
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Speaker 6: Six in right, this, this is what they're there.

512
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Speaker 4: I've told you they play great defense when they've won

513
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Speaker 4: championships and they've run the football.

514
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Speaker 6: That has been the history of Cawboy.

515
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Speaker 5: Dak has shown you over nine years who he is

516
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Speaker 5: and what he's capable of and what he needs around

517
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Speaker 5: him to have success. And it's not throwing the ball

518
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Speaker 5: forty times a game.

519
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Speaker 7: Nop his sweet spass about thirty two.

520
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Speaker 5: You can pay him like that if you want to,

521
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Speaker 5: but don't play.

522
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Speaker 4: Him that way, isn't it almost? And I made this comparison.

523
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Speaker 4: Tell me if you think I'm off pointed. I said,

524
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Speaker 4: it's like Jared Goff. Jared Goff is a guy who

525
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Speaker 4: they need to have good offensive line play around him

526
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Speaker 4: because up the middle, he definitely can get knocked off

527
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Speaker 4: mark quickly and a run game. Go give him what

528
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Speaker 4: Brad Holmes did in Detroit. There you went from a

529
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Speaker 4: guy who Sean McVay just said, hymn I'm out on

530
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 4: and the league was like, yeah, man, this guy can't

531
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Speaker 4: do it.

532
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Speaker 5: He's a bridge to your next guy, right right that

533
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Speaker 5: he turns into a dominant player who yeah, and his

534
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: team leads the NFL in scoring. And that's that was

535
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Speaker 5: to me the attraction to Ben Johnson because the way

536
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 5: the Lions play is the way the Cowboys should play.

537
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 5: Like they were under center and ran more play action

538
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Speaker 5: than any team in football, and look at the results

539
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Speaker 5: they had. Nobody scored forty points more than they did.

540
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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, they failed in the playoffs ultimately, but

541
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Speaker 5: that's the way Dak needs to be used. He needs

542
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Speaker 5: to get out of being in a shotgun seventy percent

543
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Speaker 5: of the time. He needs to be under center and

544
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Speaker 5: need to run the football, create balance and help him out.

545
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Speaker 5: Like there are all kinds of coaches in the league

546
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Speaker 5: who think Dak's perfectly capable of having postseason success if

547
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Speaker 5: the Cowboys create the right environment and the right offense

548
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Speaker 5: around him.

549
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Speaker 7: Oh think I think that's true because he can throw

550
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Speaker 7: the ball. He just doesn't need to throw it forty times, and.

551
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Speaker 5: His mobility is going to be more limited than ever

552
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Speaker 5: we would suspect.

553
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Speaker 7: But he's got all the intangibles. He can manage the game,

554
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 7: he can do all the stuff you need to help win,

555
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Speaker 7: and he's a good leader.

556
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Speaker 4: And you hit on point right there that I don't

557
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 4: think enough people are talking about is McCarthy was here

558
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: for five years and Dak was hurting three of them

559
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Speaker 4: one year very significantly.

560
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Speaker 5: Two years he missed the majority of the games. And

561
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Speaker 5: those were the two years they lost ten games. When

562
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Speaker 5: they had Dak, they won twelve games three years in

563
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Speaker 5: a row.

564
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Speaker 4: And the best way to try to now coming off

565
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Speaker 4: of you know, tore the bowing off the hammy is

566
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Speaker 4: is run.

567
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Speaker 5: The football and not with him running the football.

568
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Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, correct.

569
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Speaker 4: I talked to Ashton gent Friday at the Doak walker

570
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Speaker 4: Ward when he was here and he's like, yeah, I'm ready.

571
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Speaker 7: That's my job. I'll do that job. I want that job.

572
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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, And I think and I set this because

573
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Speaker 4: I still believe they need you got to address the

574
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Speaker 4: D line. To me, I'm like, you know, if you

575
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Speaker 4: can't this division right now, if you're trying to win,

576
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 4: if you can't stop the run, good luck and if

577
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Speaker 4: Osa Diggy Zoo goes. But even if you keep Osa

578
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 4: digg I mean he's he's a good play.

579
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Speaker 5: You've got two of the best running teams in your

580
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 5: division now, right.

581
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Speaker 6: Right, so you need to address that.

582
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Speaker 4: But I could see gent at twelve because he's a name,

583
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Speaker 4: he's a running back. You can sell a jersey, you

584
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 4: know that kind of stuff that go.

585
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Speaker 5: To help you win.

586
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Speaker 4: And if you're Brian Schottenheimer and you want to run

587
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Speaker 4: the ball, can you go give me presumably the best?

588
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Speaker 5: Well, what that was the argument they had when they

589
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Speaker 5: were thinking about drafting Zeke at four right, and the

590
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Speaker 5: way they got the defensive coaches to sign off because

591
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Speaker 5: they wanted Jalen Ramsey was you can work away. If

592
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 5: you're the opponent, you could work around Jalen Ramsey on defense.

593
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 5: You just throw to the other side. Like you can

594
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 5: let him take away half the field, he can't take

595
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Speaker 5: away all of it. Nobody can stop you from giving

596
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 5: the football to number fifteen from Ohio State as many

597
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: times as we want to do it. And that's like,

598
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 5: this is going to help the defense. You're gonna be

599
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 5: on the field fewer plays, you're gonna have the lead,

600
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 5: We're gonna be able to help manage the game. And

601
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Speaker 5: that's how they sold it to the defense, and so

602
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: they can. I can you can sell anybody on a

603
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 5: running back if that's what if you're gonna use him

604
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Speaker 5: that way.

605
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Speaker 7: If you give him two hundred and ninety cares.

606
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 6: So he is small, he's small.

607
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 7: Hell how thick is he?

608
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 5: He leads? He leads college football and breaking tackles two

609
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: years in a row. Now part of that level of competition.

610
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 6: Mile is short, So so's he's short. He's short. Now.

611
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 4: I talked to Dennis Thurman, who's the differensive coordinated Hawaii,

612
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 4: and they faced him and he told me, he said, hey.

613
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 6: Look he he is a good football player.

614
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 4: But he said in the league, he said, he does

615
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Speaker 4: wonder of seventeen games like you. Basically, you got to

616
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 4: you gotta have somebody else like Herico coming.

617
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Speaker 7: Back for million five two.

618
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Speaker 6: So so let's just throw this out here. What if

619
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Speaker 6: he drafted two guys?

620
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Speaker 7: Dude, you know, I was just about to say that,

621
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Speaker 7: meaning like, you take one. I don't know. There's such

622
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Speaker 7: a deep class and the question that event inevitably will

623
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Speaker 7: come up, do you have to take Ashton? Is he

624
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 7: that much better than the next tier? But you can

625
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 7: certainly take one in the first of the second round

626
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Speaker 7: and take another win in it's fifth and a sixth round.

627
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Speaker 5: Yeah, a team that has a drafted running back in

628
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 5: for the last five years, I'll settle for one.

629
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Speaker 7: We're is trying to win over here, man.

630
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Speaker 5: Which I think they have a lot of holes. So

631
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Speaker 5: I don't know that you can devote two of your

632
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Speaker 5: draft picks, depending on how many they ultimately end up

633
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 5: with to the running back position, or if that's really necessary.

634
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so I come back into just what you said,

635
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: if the running back position could really help you help

636
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: your defense, and we know it's seventeen games and know

637
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: just why not get two?

638
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 5: And I actually need a wide receiver.

639
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Speaker 6: I don't know what I.

640
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 4: Would pay for Rico Daule at this point in time,

641
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: but I mean, I just that can and I'm.

642
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 7: Telling you don't have. The thing is that you can

643
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 7: get him. He's not gonna cause that much, I wouldn't think.

644
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 7: But then you don't have to spend a second pick

645
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 7: on the running back, and the question will be whether

646
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 7: you want a receiver first, or whether you want a

647
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 7: running back first, or whether you want a defensive tackle first.

648
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Speaker 7: They got a lot of holes, so go take the

649
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 7: best player. Yeah, they got a lot of hole.

650
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 5: I A got a tight end.

651
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 7: If your boy from Penn State.

652
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: Here's a couple.

653
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 7: Now that was who's the Who's the guy who was

654
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 7: killing people running routes at the Senior Bowl?

655
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 6: Jack Beesh?

656
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 7: Now the other guy? Oh, some other guy. I can't

657
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 7: remember his name, but he was the best.

658
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 6: Good player too, Yeah, good player.

659
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Speaker 5: It's gonna be a lot of contested catches, though he

660
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 5: might make most of them.

661
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Speaker 6: There's a lot to look at. There's a lot to

662
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 6: look at.

663
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: Hey, let's get our second break in here.

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Speaker 6: One player.

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Speaker 4: We got the author, Jean Jacques Taylor. We got the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer Edwarder. Ed is it a plaque? I

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Speaker 4: know it's not a bus over in Can?

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Speaker 7: What is it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't do for some reason, the whole cast iron,

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Speaker 5: plaster faced thing.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 5: We didn't get a gold jacket from Hagar, which kind

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Speaker 5: of I like a little better line than you can

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Speaker 5: go buy one of those, but no, they yeah, they

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Speaker 5: just there's a plaque and they add your name.

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Speaker 4: To it, don't they can't you go buy one of

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Speaker 4: those though, on your own buy a bus old jacket

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Speaker 4: gold to Hagar, buy have a gold jacket, a whole one.

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Speaker 6: But right, Maybe I'm in.

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Speaker 5: A great loose color. He doesn't go with anything. I

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Speaker 5: think those Hall of Fame guys are I always always

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Speaker 5: looking him to see how they have accessorized, Like does

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Speaker 5: their tye go with it? What color shirt really goes

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Speaker 5: with that thing?

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Speaker 7: I got a guy, You got a guy, Carlton.

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Speaker 4: Carlton Dixon can make you. Carlton Dixon can make you

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Speaker 4: a gold jacket.

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Speaker 6: I put the.

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Speaker 5: Little I only want what I've earned.

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Speaker 6: That you've earned, they would do it to me.

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Speaker 5: I earned having my name on a plaque, you know,

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Speaker 5: from just fifty other people have.

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Speaker 6: The name, you know, and I'd love for you to

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Speaker 6: just show up.

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Speaker 5: In here. Yeah no, can't do they give you free

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Speaker 5: admission to the hall. At least you know there are

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Speaker 5: There are very few perks that come with being so recognized,

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Speaker 5: but still a great honor.

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Speaker 4: In my mind, I remembered when Cashoy was a reporter

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Speaker 4: for us A channel Channel five.

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Speaker 5: He got one of those colonial glad jackets.

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Speaker 4: Flat jacket ward and walked around with and people just

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Speaker 4: gott the stairs.

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Speaker 5: Did he win?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, yeah you oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 5: If you're gonna get me a jacket, give me a

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Speaker 5: green jacket, I'll pretend they won the Masters.

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Speaker 15: See that's apparently you don't have to win the Masters

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Speaker 15: to get one of those.

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Speaker 4: That's one of those where I think somebody would say,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, sir, I mean you you know, golf community,

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Speaker 4: now you.

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Speaker 7: Know they tell him, right, they watched TV and call

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Speaker 7: exactly somebody from Augusta will call, I mean, they will

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Speaker 7: we want that back.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we are here, we've seen.

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Speaker 5: I mean that we're having our lawyers call you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'll just you know, just some some

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Speaker 4: troll titled Edward's wearing a gold jacket. But then somebody

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Speaker 4: from Augusta will call you about that. They they guard

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Speaker 4: they guard it as you know, as you well know

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Speaker 4: they they they guard everything.

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Speaker 5: But it was a nice weekend. Got to make a

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Speaker 5: little speech, and you know, Chris actually recorded that for

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Speaker 5: me without me asking, so I have that forever and

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Speaker 5: my name's on the plaque.

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Speaker 6: Did you go as long as Chris Berman did on

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Speaker 6: the speech?

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Speaker 7: Never?

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Burman came to me one time. I think it was

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Speaker 5: I guess it was Farvre's first game for the Jets,

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Speaker 5: and he did this really long and elaborate intro which

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Speaker 5: he's known to do and I get like forty five

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Speaker 5: seconds from my entire report.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 5: And I said to him on the air when he

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Speaker 5: finally threw it to me, I said, Boomer, if that

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Speaker 5: would have taken any longer, I would have had gone

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Speaker 5: in the locker room and make sure Farv didn't change

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Speaker 5: teams again. And he said, well, if you don't like it,

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Speaker 5: we'd have Rachel Nichols take it next time.

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Speaker 7: Well, now now it's perfect boom.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 5: I'd like it a lot better knowing my options.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl week down in New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: One of the best sites I think if you're gonna

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Speaker 4: have Super Bowl Miami, New Orleans, LA. Otherwise, eh, but

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Speaker 4: I love those three sites there. The Cowboys have a

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Speaker 4: lot of free agents here. If you're going to throw

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Speaker 4: a franchise tag, and the players that are you know,

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Speaker 4: significant players that are up. You got your your kicker

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Speaker 4: turner a Devonte Camanti turping his up kicker, Brandon Aubrey.

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Speaker 4: He's had another sensational You're gonna have to pay this guy.

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Speaker 4: He's such a weapon. Also, Diggy Zoo on your defensive line,

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Speaker 4: he's up your slot corner. Jordan Lewis is up here.

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Speaker 4: If you're throwing a franchise tag someplay.

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Speaker 6: Where do you go? Are those guys?

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Speaker 5: The two special Teams guys are restricted though, right I

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Speaker 5: believe so? Yeah, so so you get a chance to

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Speaker 5: keep them if you want to. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 5: know that they other than those two guys, I don't

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Speaker 5: think they have a player that justifies using the franchise tag,

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Speaker 5: and they've not been reluctant to use the franchise tag

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Speaker 5: on this team over the years.

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Speaker 7: I like USA, but I'm not paying those of twenty

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Speaker 7: three million.

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Speaker 5: I was just looking it up.

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Speaker 6: Osa.

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Speaker 5: He's one of the biggest names in this class. He

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Speaker 5: plays a premium position. There's thirteen defensive tackles making over

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Speaker 5: twenty million a year. But are you gonna pay him

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Speaker 5: over twenty million a year? For last year he had

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Speaker 5: his best year. He had forty seven tackles, career high,

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Speaker 5: crew high, four and a half sacks, crew high, twenty

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Speaker 5: three quarterback hits. Did you ever watch a game and say,

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Speaker 5: oh my god, he's taking over this game.

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Speaker 7: See, he had moments, but he didn't dominate games. And

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Speaker 7: he's okay to have moments, and he's a good player,

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Speaker 7: but he's not twenty three men.

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Speaker 5: But the problem for them is, under any system, if

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Speaker 5: they lose him, they got to sign two. Now, you

825
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Speaker 5: gotta sign two defensive tackles right that are starting caliber.

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Speaker 7: And Matt Eberflus the.

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Speaker 5: New defensive quarter and we're just talking about the new

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Speaker 5: coaching staff. Ibra Flus needs a three technique tackle like

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Speaker 5: that's what he bases everything he does on.

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Speaker 7: And if it's not.

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Speaker 5: Gonna be Osa, who are you gonna have? Well, then

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Speaker 5: Chauncey Golston is better outside than inside.

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Speaker 7: I would do this, and he's up. I would rather.

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Speaker 7: I'd rather give us a longer term deal than a

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Speaker 7: franchise deal because at least then this cap numbers is

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Speaker 7: not bad. He's a good player, he's just not a

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Speaker 7: great player. And maybe I can get make good player

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Speaker 7: money over long term, then great player money over short term.

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Speaker 4: Is there a player on the roster you look at

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Speaker 4: and you say, I don't think he's gonna be here

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Speaker 4: next year, that the Cowboys may make a salary capboy,

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Speaker 4: And for me, I think about Terrence Steele, your right tackle,

843
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Speaker 4: and knowing that, okay, Geyton is going to be playing somewhere,

844
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Speaker 4: be it left or right tackle, and you had awesome richards.

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Speaker 6: Last year who showed you something.

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Speaker 5: But then again, you know, we don't know what the

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Speaker 5: new coaching staff thinks.

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Speaker 4: Say what is the new coaching staff think? But I've

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Speaker 4: got to believe that's where I kind of go back

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Speaker 4: to Shoty. I'm assuming he was in on last year

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Speaker 4: when there were times where they were you know.

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Speaker 5: They chose not to play him at the end of

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Speaker 5: the year. They chose a dooga over him. Who's a

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Speaker 5: journeyman offensive tackle over your first round pick when they

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Speaker 5: had their choice in important games at the end of

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Speaker 5: the season. It's important as it could be for Mike

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Speaker 5: trying to save his job, that's who they trusted. The

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Speaker 5: coaches were all competing for their jobs and who did

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Speaker 5: they trust not guiding. Now, that doesn't mean he won't

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Speaker 5: have a great offseason and won't be better in this scheme,

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Speaker 5: and maybe he does change positions and he's a better

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Speaker 5: player at right tackle than he was at left tackle,

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Speaker 5: but they clearly did not trust him as a rookie.

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Speaker 7: No, and he you know, man, it's I had a

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Speaker 7: question about him off the rip, just because you know,

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Speaker 7: we're talking about the seventh or eighth tackle in the

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Speaker 7: in the draft that they took changing positions, and you know,

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Speaker 7: he's a guy. To me, that's why you don't want

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Speaker 7: a draft for need, because that's why they drafted. If

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Speaker 7: they didn't need a tackle, he they weren't taking him

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Speaker 7: in the first round and so you know, so I

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Speaker 7: don't I don't have any great expectations for him.

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Speaker 5: They could have gotten a better tackle if they'd stay

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Speaker 5: where they were, but they traded back and the reward was, well,

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Speaker 5: you get a starting center out of it, So you

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Speaker 5: take a lesser tackle potentially.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like I like Bebie, but I mean you still need.

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Speaker 7: I probably like Steel better than I like syl Of

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Speaker 7: Gadden right now.

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Speaker 5: I think the guy that got a big question on

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Speaker 5: is DeMarcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 7: See I don't know if that's so much a question.

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Speaker 7: I think he's I.

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Speaker 6: Wouldn't move on.

885
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 5: And I just and you hope Sam Williams can stay

886
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 5: healthy and being better off there.

887
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 4: This is one of those where this is where you

888
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: got to look at that in the draft. You know,

889
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: at twelve, I mean, how many things are in play

890
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: at twelve? Running backs in play, defensive tackle could be

891
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: in play, the tight end could be in play. Me

892
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: they've got needs all over the place, but wide receiver.

893
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 7: Right. But but I corner I have.

894
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: When I think about the totality of his career, you've

895
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: just about gotten as much as you're gonna get out

896
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: of him. His better days are gone if you bring

897
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: him back. Now, you're hoping he stays healthy.

898
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 7: He's a good player on the championship team. This ain't

899
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 7: no championship team.

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00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think that.

901
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 4: And this has kind of been the issue with you

902
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 4: holding on the guys too long.

903
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 7: He takes some listends from Nico. That's how you. Nico like, Hey,

904
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 7: I don't like you, Dug. You've served us well by bye.

905
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: I don't care what I get back. I'm just getting

906
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 5: rid of you.

907
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 6: I like it.

908
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 15: But you'll know fully about Steel pretty early because looking

909
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 15: at spow track and says that his thirteen point twenty

910
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 15: five million contract is fully guaranteed as of March sixteenth, five.

911
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they'll be making a March call on him,

912
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 5: which were a month away and five weeks away from

913
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 5: that decision.

914
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 6: But awesome Richards.

915
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 4: And Tyler Guy looked like they Hearing that from Chris

916
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 4: makes me think that these these two good look like, Hey,

917
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 4: we'll do do that, Douga one more time.

918
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 5: I didn't season steal one of like three players who

919
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 5: played every snap on offense last year in the entire league.

920
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 5: And he is a he is a pretty good runs

921
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: a nice so if you're going that direction, and he's.

922
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 7: Three years away from his injury, so maybe he will

923
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 7: be what he was when they gave him his deal

924
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 7: and they had so much hype for him.

925
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 4: But if they have money issues like they talked about here,

926
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: and you're trying to get this, you're trying to get

927
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons, but you.

928
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 7: Don't want to get rid of guys they can help

929
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 7: you and keep first round picks that maybe cannot.

930
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 5: Does Zach Martin make more sense than.

931
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 7: Zach Minin said something interesting the other day. Yeah, and

932
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 7: in Dallas or whether I'm playing, he.

933
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 5: Went out of his way to note I'm a free agent,

934
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: by the way, like that was I thought that stuck

935
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 5: out at me. Of the comments he made about whether

936
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 5: he's going to continue playing and whether it'll be here,

937
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 5: he was the one who was pushing the whole don't

938
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: forget I can leave if I want to.

939
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 7: Right, which is his way of saying, if you want

940
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 7: me to come back, comes come correct, and I'd be like, hey, Doug,

941
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 7: you got to.

942
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 15: Go now in saying that about Steele his dead cap,

943
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 15: they release him as also thirteen point five million, so.

944
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 7: Oh so it might as well keep him.

945
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: Hey, So you keep him and you have him for

946
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 5: three million versus I guess you can split the cap

947
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 5: hit over two years the dead money.

948
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 4: But you raise a good point when you talk about

949
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 4: his ability in the run game, run blood. Now, how

950
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: does Clayton Adams and Brian Schottenheimer see him now fitting?

951
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: And this is so just in that you know, to

952
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 4: make me think again, that's what we got to do

953
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: something I think I get more from think again. Okay,

954
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: then then maybe you're going to be able to put

955
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 4: him in a better position to take advantage more of

956
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: his talent.

957
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: And you say, all the chaos they had with the

958
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 5: offensive line and all the injuries slash year, and he's

959
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: the one guy who was there every week and every

960
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 5: snap of every game.

961
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: And maybe this isn't if if Guyton doesn't get it,

962
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: then maybe Richards is the guy. And then you now

963
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: have Guitten as a swing tackle. And I mean, at

964
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 4: the end of the day, if you're trying to win

965
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: you're trying to, you know, figure figure this out. But

966
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: these these are the questions you have to do, and

967
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: you're not getting rid of its. Kind of like Mazie

968
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 4: Smith like, hey, you're not get rid of the guy

969
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 4: because because he hasn't so.

970
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 6: Far been the player you wanted him to be. But

971
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 6: that's what you got to do, coach.

972
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 7: To that point, that was if he's my swing tackle.

973
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 7: I'm just like, what d you say?

974
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 6: You got three years to show us something?

975
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 7: Maybe Bill Parson says, I'll take two.

976
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 6: Well, Bill said he got it from Ton.

977
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 7: I know, but I'm stretching on, Bill, take.

978
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 4: You better show up to show something. We're gonna have

979
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: to move off. Bill was ready to move on so well,

980
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Mazzie should have every opportunity to fail

981
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 4: and that and that's what this is your three Hey,

982
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: third different coach.

983
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 5: That doesn't help for him either.

984
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 6: And there you go. Let's see what the third different

985
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 6: coach has.

986
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 5: Let's sad, a third different coach and one who really

987
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 5: emphasizes that position, that defensive tackle position.

988
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 7: We're the one who wants you to play like your

989
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 7: hands on fire.

990
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: And no better way to flush it all out. We

991
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: will know after year three.

992
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 7: Now we gonna know after the first few minute cans

993
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 7: whether his tongue is dragging or whether he's been working

994
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 7: at and knowing that I is gonna be like sprint

995
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 7: to the ball. Sprint to the ball, sprint to the ball.

996
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: These are good things, correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah, get up

997
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 5: off the ground.

998
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 4: At some point in time, you got to you know,

999
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: you gotta know. I mean Jerry West, when the late

1000
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: Jerry West once told me, said, the problem with general managers,

1001
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: they don't want most people don't want to admit their

1002
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 4: mistake and go handle.

1003
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Speaker 6: It right away.

1004
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 7: Nico d he thought he made a mistake. I'm finna

1005
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 7: handle it right now.

1006
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 6: He didn't draft him.

1007
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 5: I was gonna say his mistake, his mistake was ending

1008
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: it now. The beginning was of the problem. The acquisition

1009
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: wasn't the problem.

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Speaker 7: Hey man. Somebody once told me, same thing, make you lab,

1011
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 7: make you cry. When he got when he went and

1012
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 7: got Kyrie was yes, same thing, make you lab make

1013
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 7: you cry.

1014
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: As Edward said at the top of the show, Jerry's

1015
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 4: moved up to the generalman.

1016
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 7: He goes down at all times.

1017
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Speaker 4: He got dead lass with a bullet right now, hoping

1018
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 4: this thing turns around Edwarder, Thank you, thank you, Chris Bean,

1019
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: thank you. Everybody here a part of Dallas Cowboys dot

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