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Speaker 1: Well, Mike, it should be a dynamic, a dynamic, fun matchup. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Sounds good, Mike, Safe travels up here, Banks, take care

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Speaker 1: this week's key matchups segment. And Dan, if you've watched

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Speaker 1: right away. Is anything you want to open with, is

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Speaker 4: I know you're always plugging your pod I will plug

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Speaker 4: rushing yards a game. I know he Troy Lion stans

430
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Speaker 4: will not like to hear that because jimiir is only

431
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Speaker 4: averaging about just under thirty a game, So you don't

432
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Speaker 4: love that. But like you mentioned, because of where they

433
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Speaker 4: were drafted, I mean, Detroit had a chance to draft

434
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Speaker 4: Bijeon they decided to go back and get jaw there

435
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Speaker 4: at number twelve. So it's interesting. I would love to

436
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 4: know what their draft board looked like. It really would.

437
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Speaker 1: There's some that believe that Jamiir was ahead of Bijon

438
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Speaker 1: on their board.

439
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Speaker 4: Yeah, then it worked out, it's great.

440
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Speaker 1: I would be Yeah. I think that probably wasn't the

441
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Speaker 1: norm in many other rooms. I was a huge fan

442
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Speaker 1: of Bijon Robinson in the draft. I like Jamiir Gibbs

443
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: as well. I think Jamiir probably fits more for what

444
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: they wanted, what they were going to use him for,

445
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: because they already had David Montgomery. Remember free agentially comes

446
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 1: before the draft, and look, they love David Montgomery. You

447
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: look what David Montgomery has done. He has been that

448
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: bell call for them. He's been the guy that can

449
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: run between the tackles and get yards and tough and elusive.

450
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: And they wanted a guy who could catch the football.

451
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: He's got nine catches. Speaking of Jamiir, and you know

452
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Speaker 1: that guy who's a four to three can play in space,

453
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Speaker 1: and look, he's gonna get an opportunity this week because

454
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Speaker 1: David Montgomery hasn't played or hasn't practiced once or Thursday,

455
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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Friday, we'll see the you know,

456
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 1: the the inactives ninety minutes before. But if this is

457
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Speaker 1: Jamiir's game, I know what Dan Campbell said that it's

458
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: still going to be running back by committee and we're

459
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Speaker 1: going to do all this.

460
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Speaker 4: But let's same with Ben Johnson. There's something we don't know.

461
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Speaker 1: Kim number twelve. Yeah, and you've got to give the

462
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Speaker 1: young man the football.

463
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Speaker 3: Look.

464
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Speaker 1: I think he's shown some power. I think he's shown

465
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Speaker 1: an ability run between the tackles. He hasn't been asked

466
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Speaker 1: to do it, but I think he can do it.

467
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Speaker 1: I think he learned last week from watching the tape

468
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Speaker 1: that he can't bunce everything outside in this league, he

469
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 1: probably has been able to do that. He's either he's

470
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Speaker 1: not afraid of contact. That Kansas City game, he delivered

471
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Speaker 1: some blows, so I think he'll be just fine. I

472
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Speaker 1: think he's going to get fifteen carries. I think he's

473
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Speaker 1: still going to be part of the past.

474
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Speaker 4: Game fifteen carries.

475
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Speaker 1: And I think this will be a week we get

476
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Speaker 1: to see what he's all about.

477
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Speaker 4: It has to be. I don't into space seeing David

478
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Speaker 4: Montgomery at all so you have you have John Craig Reynolds, you.

479
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Speaker 1: Know, and but I just think this is the week.

480
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Speaker 4: This has to be the week you took him twelve.

481
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Speaker 1: Give them the football lines.

482
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Speaker 4: If they I they're rushing front of one hundred yards

483
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Speaker 4: a game, I don't like it. I don't like the odds.

484
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Speaker 1: And he'll be running behind an offensive line that's dealing

485
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Speaker 1: with some injuries. As you well know, Danny big V

486
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: probably isn't going to play. Taylor Decker didn't practice Wednesday Thursday.

487
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: We'll have to see about Friday, and he was moving

488
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: off to the side with trainers, which I think is positive.

489
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: He was doing that last week and he wasn't doing

490
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Speaker 1: that last week, but we'll have to see about his status.

491
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Speaker 1: If not, I think the scenario last week is probably

492
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Speaker 1: still the same. Right they moved Pena over to left

493
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Speaker 1: and Matt Nelson steps in to the right tackle. I

494
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Speaker 1: thought Melsa Matt Nelson did a pretty good job thirty

495
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Speaker 1: nine plass Bock reps last week. I didn't allow a sack,

496
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Speaker 1: one hit, one total pressure. I'll take that for a

497
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: backup guy, but he's playing a guy in Khalil's campbell

498
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: was pretty good.

499
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Speaker 4: Isn't he Yeah, how old is he?

500
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Speaker 1: He's old.

501
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Speaker 4: I mean this is an experienced veteran man, and you

502
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 4: mentioned it. I mean Lions overall did allow two sacks

503
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Speaker 4: last week against Seattle, but they came later in the

504
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Speaker 4: fourth quarter and then you kind of saw the offense

505
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 4: crumble a little bit. I know, Jared Goff took a

506
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Speaker 4: sack and then through an interception the very next play.

507
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: So really creating that edge for Jared Goff, making him

508
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Speaker 4: feel like he has all the time in the rold

509
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Speaker 4: in the pocket against together guy like Kalaias Campbell, who

510
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 4: is so disruptive, has seen everything that there is to

511
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 4: see in this in this league, and knows and knows

512
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Speaker 4: how to attack quarterbacks. And I think he's gonna like,

513
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Speaker 4: I don't know, he's gonna be like, Okay, they're down

514
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 4: on the offensive line a little bit right now, I'm

515
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: gonna take full advantage. But that is a very experienced

516
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Speaker 4: offensive line. No matter how you shake it, whoever steps

517
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Speaker 4: in Graham Glasgow probably gonna go in there this week.

518
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: Experience so many one career starts.

519
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Speaker 4: To your point exactly, you're not replacing these guys with

520
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: with with nobodies with rookies or second years. You're replacing

521
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Speaker 4: a lot of these guys on the offensive line in

522
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Speaker 4: Detroit with with people who have experienced So go Lucky

523
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Speaker 4: Kalaeis Campbell. What's the fun stat that we're looking for

524
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Speaker 4: this week.

525
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Speaker 1: Well, the thing that bothers me a little bit is

526
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Speaker 1: he's at ninety nine career sacks.

527
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Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised he doesn't have one.

528
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Speaker 1: Needs that one more for one hundred. Hate When guys

529
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Speaker 1: are stuck on that righte nine nine. Yeah, you just

530
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: feel it's coming at some point, and usually when it comes,

531
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Speaker 1: it's kind of a big one. So we'll have to

532
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: just see. But I think that's an important matchup. Can

533
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Speaker 1: those guys to your point earlier? I thought they held

534
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: up pretty well until the end of that game when

535
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: Seattle could kind of pined their ears back. Once you

536
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Speaker 1: got down by ten, you kind of knew what was coming.

537
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: But that's an important matchup that I think. That's a

538
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: defensive line that runs eight nine guys into the mix.

539
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: They do a lot with their stunt games, so they

540
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: keep those guys fresh. They really get after it. That'll

541
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Speaker 1: be an important matchup for keeping you know, Jared Golf

542
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Speaker 1: upright and being able to run, block, set up, play action,

543
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Speaker 1: do the things that Jared does really well. All right,

544
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Speaker 1: let's go to the other side of the ball and

545
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Speaker 1: Alex Anzeloni versus Kyle Pitts and why I thought this

546
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Speaker 1: one was an interesting one one because Kyle Pitts is

547
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Speaker 1: a dynamic player and it worries me a little bit

548
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Speaker 1: that he's got four catches for just fifty nine yards

549
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: through two games. Guys like that are due. But also

550
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: you look at Detroit against the tight end position over

551
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: the first two weeks fourteen catches one hundred and seventy

552
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Speaker 1: five yards, nine for one hundred and thirty two last

553
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: week against Seattle. They've got to start defending that tight

554
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: end position a little bit better, and Kyle Pitts might

555
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: be one of the most explosive guys at that position

556
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: in the league.

557
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Speaker 4: I'm so torn. Yes, I think Kyle Pitts is due,

558
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 4: coming off of a Pro Bowl rookie year last year,

559
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 4: only played in ten games, he tour his MCLs. He

560
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 4: was working his way back from that. But like you mentioned,

561
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Speaker 4: four receptions, no touchdowns and a specimen of a human

562
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Speaker 4: six foot I think is what over six foot five?

563
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty six twos loved him in the draft a

564
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago.

565
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Speaker 4: A big man loved him. You can catch a ball

566
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Speaker 4: and you're that big massive target lines would absolutely love you.

567
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Speaker 1: Do we see a four to four guy Peach at

568
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Speaker 1: six six.

569
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Speaker 4: Two fifty terrifying. I'm not he's running towards me. I'm

570
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 4: getting the hell out of the way. I'm not staying here.

571
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Speaker 4: But I do like Anzeloni matching up on him. Anzeloni,

572
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Speaker 4: I think has been playing really good ball.

573
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Speaker 1: He's one shot out of a rocket on that sack.

574
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Speaker 4: Last, like no matter. It's just everywhere you look, every

575
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: sideline for Detroit, Angeloni is there. So I think he's

576
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: playing really well. That was the only sack that Detroit

577
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: has had this year.

578
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Speaker 1: He's been, you know, love it, our best cover guy

579
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years.

580
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: Yes, and he's getting better. I know he's taken a

581
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 4: lot of the wrath when when this defense isn't doing well,

582
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: it gets placed on Angealoni's shoulders. I think he's playing really,

583
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: really good ball right now. Pitts uh Yeah. I think

584
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: it's just going to be the luck of the universe.

585
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: If this is his game, it's his game, but he

586
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: hasn't shown us anything since his rookie year season and

587
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: a half season and a half ago, so I don't

588
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 4: know if that's going to be a factor here today.

589
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: I maybe would have liked, maybe would have liked Detroit

590
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: seeing Travis kelcey in Week one, so they kind of,

591
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: you know, could see a lot.

592
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: The zone with the coverages, the matchup.

593
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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm fine with Travis Kelsey not playing Week one.

594
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: I'll be I'll be real with you, But I like

595
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Speaker 4: Kazalonia in this coverage. If Kyle Pitts decides go off,

596
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: you've got a very fierce, mad defense player running out

597
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 4: him in Ancelonia.

598
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Speaker 5: I like it.

599
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: Last time Pitt's played the Lions two years ago as

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Speaker 1: a rookie one seventy five, six catches for one O

601
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Speaker 1: two seventy five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like that.

603
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't like that either. No, don't know anything about that.

604
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: Let's move on, all right, let's go. I'm on Ross

605
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: Saint Brown, Detroit Lions slap receiver First d Alford, who

606
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: plays the nickel corner. There great news on Thursday. I'm

607
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: on Ross Saint Brown, obviously injured to tow last week,

608
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: played through it, but sat out practice Wednesday, was back Thursday.

609
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: I was watching him closely at the open portion of practice.

610
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: Didn't seem too limited at all. Was running routes, doing

611
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: his thing in the individual portion of practice. So that's

612
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: great news because obviously he's the main weapon for Detroit

613
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: in the passing game. And I think this is an

614
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: interesting matchup with d Alford because you look at Alford,

615
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Speaker 1: He's allowed eight receptions on nine targets this year, seventy

616
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Speaker 1: one yards. He allowed two touchdowns last week to Green Bay.

617
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there's that's probably maybe if if

618
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: the Lions are looking at the grand scheme of this

619
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: defense or thinking advantage aman Ran, which is normally the

620
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: case every week, but maybe even this week, even if

621
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Speaker 1: he's hampered a little bit by that injury, they gotta

622
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: feel confident that they can attack the middle of that

623
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: Atlanta defense and Almon Rock can be a big component

624
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: of this offense.

625
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

626
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 4: I know Amana is the under the radar receiver. You know,

627
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 4: he can name what all sixteen guys that went above him,

628
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: and the draft. You have d Alford, who was undrafted.

629
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Speaker 4: He had seven passes defended his rookie year last season

630
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 4: and then an interception. Amanand knows what it looks like

631
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: when a guy is playing with the chip on his shoulder,

632
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: because that's what Almanad's done his entire career.

633
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: I like that.

634
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: So I think d is going to come out swinging

635
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: against Amanro, trying to give him his best shot. But

636
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 4: I do like the matchup. I like Amanrod, take him

637
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: any day over most of these coverage guys. Amanro what

638
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: right now? Fourteen and a half yards of reception every

639
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: time he catches the ball and one hundred and seventy

640
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: three yards over two games.

641
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Speaker 1: He talked about wanting to get big Blace, wanted to

642
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: get down the field the saf season, and he's doing it.

643
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: He's doing it, So I mean good luck to d'El

644
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: for the undrafted guy I think is gonna he's gonna

645
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: throw it down. I think he's gonna throw down, especially

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Speaker 4: because this offense is missing a weapon like David Montgomery

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Speaker 4: and we're not sure the usage out of Jaw yet

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Speaker 4: in the past.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's an interesting point too, because Amonra and

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Speaker 1: your slot guy can sometimes be an extension of your

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Speaker 1: run game, especially a guy that you trust as much

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Speaker 1: as Jared trust Amon ra Yeah, those short quick routes,

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Speaker 1: the option routes, the quick slants, the screens, get it

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Speaker 1: out to your slot guy really quick, set up some blocks,

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Speaker 1: get it outside. It's an extension to your run game.

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Speaker 1: So I think to your point, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: ways that they can get him the ball. They want

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Speaker 1: to do that, and I've got to think that.

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Speaker 4: They like that matchup and it's so easy every time.

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Speaker 4: It just makes it look so easy, like, oh he

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Speaker 4: has one hundred yards. Crap, I missed up. I missed

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Speaker 4: the other eighty yards. Like it's just insane. Yeah steal, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe a Brad Holmes square.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's finish this up with I think it

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Speaker 1: is an important one in Charles Harris Lions defensive and

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Speaker 1: verst Jake Matthews, terrific left tackle for them, has been

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Speaker 1: doing it at a high level for a long long time.

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at Detroit's pass rush, and

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Speaker 1: we talked about a little bit just the one sack

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Speaker 1: by angelone none by the defense that now they've gotten pressure,

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Speaker 1: which has been good, like a lot of pressure, a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressures they just haven't finished and had sacked.

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Speaker 1: And I talked about that news and notes, you know

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Speaker 1: earlier in the podcast. But and I think Hutchinson's been

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Speaker 1: great too. You look at double digit pressures, he's been

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Speaker 1: really close, if not for a hold, maybe he's got

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Speaker 1: a couple of sacks. But he needs that bookend guy

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Speaker 1: on the other side, right, he needs that that tandem,

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Speaker 1: that duo, that other guy on the other side, that

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Speaker 1: when he's getting chipped when they're putting a tight end

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Speaker 1: over there. And you know, Charles has got his one

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Speaker 1: on one matchups because they focus so much on Aiden,

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Speaker 1: He's got to be a guy that makes place win

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Speaker 1: those one on one matchups, right, what Dan talked about

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Speaker 1: this week, and you know, guys who've been reliable being reliable,

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Speaker 1: and so I think this is a big game for

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Speaker 1: Charles sairis to prove, you know, that he can affect

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Speaker 1: the game more than he has that think in the

689
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Speaker 1: first two weeks, you know, but look at no easy tasks.

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Speaker 1: Matthews allowed one sack, three total pressures in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's been really good. But the lines

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Speaker 1: have to finish. They've got to affect Ritter, they've got

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Speaker 1: to stop this run game, contain the edge, but just

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Speaker 1: affect the quarterback, move him off his spot, as Aaron

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Speaker 1: gled said on Thursday. On Thursday, and I think Charles

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Speaker 1: Harris and some of those other guys, Kaminski, some of

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Speaker 1: those backup guys got to be a big part of it.

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Speaker 1: It can't just be Hutch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Jake. Yeah, he's thirty one years old.

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Speaker 4: I think that's older than any Detroit Lions offensive line

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Speaker 4: that we have. Taylor's what thirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how many? I think he's got like one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty some consecutive starts too. I mean he has

704
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Speaker 1: been durable and reliable. Yes, he's been very good for them.

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Speaker 1: Former first round pick. I think it was so whatt

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Speaker 1: seventeen maybe something on there. And he's played I think

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Speaker 1: he missed a couple of games, and he's been consistent

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Speaker 1: all the way through. But this is a game where

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Speaker 1: Detroit's pass rush has to show.

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Speaker 4: Up there and allowed two hundred rushing yards like Atlanta

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Speaker 4: was able to put on Green Bay lash last week.

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Speaker 1: You know that that's task one is stopping the run

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Speaker 1: for sure, you know, but when they'd go to play action,

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Speaker 1: when you get them in third and long, and you

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Speaker 1: know it's a passing situation, because they'll be stubborn with

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Speaker 1: the run. They'll run a first down, get two yards.

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Speaker 1: They'll run on second down, get one yard, the third

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Speaker 1: and seven sometimes they'll run it again.

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Speaker 4: Bend until it breaks.

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Speaker 1: But if you can get them in third and long, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where your pass rush has to

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Speaker 1: be big this week. And they need guys like Charles

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Speaker 1: Harris to step it up, I think, and be a

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Speaker 1: big part of that.

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Speaker 4: And this is typically when Charles Harris starts to come

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Speaker 4: on early in the season. You give him a couple

727
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Speaker 4: of games, gets warmed up, and then he comes in

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Speaker 4: and he delivers some blows. I'm just wondering and farre

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Speaker 4: and Glenn's watching this and he knows he's one of

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Speaker 4: my favorites. He is a great coach. I love listening

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Speaker 4: to him. At his pressers, he said he doesn't care

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Speaker 4: about sacks, and I'm just wondering if he cares about sax.

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Speaker 1: Cares about sacks, right, what he said Thursday was I

734
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Speaker 1: care about getting the quarter back off his spot and

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Speaker 1: effect them all the timing and not letting him get

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Speaker 1: his first read. But you want them sex or impact plays.

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Speaker 1: I know, like a sack is an is a drive

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Speaker 1: ending play. You want your defense to get off the field,

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Speaker 1: get a sack, get two. That's where you get off

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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 4: And I know I'm not trying to tell ag his

742
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Speaker 4: own business, but I think he would like some sacks

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Speaker 4: in this game.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope they get a few. It is a great

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Speaker 1: weekend celebrating women in football. Thank for taking the time

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Speaker 1: to do my podcast and having Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Let me do us?

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Speaker 1: Ready to go?

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Speaker 4: Actually, they send me do you know how many like

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Speaker 4: graphics they send me? And I'm like, how many am

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Speaker 4: I supposed to like put together? Okay, I'm getting at PJ.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting at PJ. I'm getting it. But no, something

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Speaker 4: really cool that they're like, be a part of women

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Speaker 4: in football. Okay, Look, if you have a child, and

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Speaker 4: I mean six through twelfth grade, our fifteen year old's children.

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Speaker 1: I think on sixteen, I don't consider him a young man.

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Speaker 4: He's a child. Maybe there is no QR you can

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Speaker 4: pull out of.

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Speaker 1: The driveway in your old car. I don't think you're

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Speaker 1: a child anymore.

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Speaker 4: I mean maybe you should be there. Okay, there is

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Speaker 4: no QR code, so I'm just gonna pull this up.

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Speaker 4: I thought there was QR code. Look, fam, if you

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Speaker 4: have a six to sixth through twelfth grader and they

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Speaker 4: want to be a reporter, one day, you can come

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Speaker 4: shadow me pregame of the Carolina game. It is going

767
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Speaker 4: to be so much fun. Your family will get four tickets,

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Speaker 4: four sideline passes, a parking pass. You don't have to

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Speaker 4: worry about anything. We'll go hang out down on the field,

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Speaker 4: we'll go up to the press box. You'll be on

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Speaker 4: our pregame show. But you got a bid for it

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Speaker 4: because it all goes to Detroit Lions Foundation, which is awesome.

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Speaker 4: Supports all the charities that the Detroit Lions supports.

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Speaker 1: Part of the celebration for this weekend it is.

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Speaker 4: It's only open for three days. Fam, I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what dated.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Thursday. Is it Thursday? Yeah? This auction

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Speaker 4: closes on Sunday after the game.

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Speaker 1: There you go, sideline. You want to be on the game,

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Speaker 1: you want to do the pre game. I do as well.

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Speaker 4: Get his wallet out, Yeah, don't take the wallet for

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Speaker 4: great costs. Ask please so I don't get in trouble.

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Speaker 1: She is Danny Rodgers. I am Tim Twentyman. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for joining the key matchup segment. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the twenty in the Huddle podcast presented

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Speaker 1: by Microsoft, and I'm very happy to welcome John the

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Speaker 1: Commission Kaminski. John, you've been on the podcast before. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming back. I appreciate it, and I want to

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Speaker 1: start with this. Look, you guys know the NFL's a business, right,

790
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Speaker 1: and I'm just curious if there's an extra little motivation

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Speaker 1: with you guys facing Atlanta. Obviously, you started your career there,

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Speaker 1: you know, you got released, got picked up by Detroit,

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Speaker 1: have such a terrific start to your career here. Is

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Speaker 1: that a thing or do you guys just realize that

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Speaker 1: it's a business or Atlanta's coming to town. Is there

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Speaker 1: a little extra motivation with some player?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there definitely is. I think any guy who plays

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Speaker 5: an organization they's been at before, you know, there's a

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Speaker 5: little extra juice when you get to play those guys.

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Speaker 5: And so for me, yeah, especially, I mean I know

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Speaker 5: a lot of guys on the opposite side of the ball,

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00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 5: Chris Lindstrom, Caleb McGary. I spent a lot of time

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Speaker 5: with them. I was a rookie coming in with them guys,

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Speaker 5: So I know them pretty well. It'll be fun, you know,

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Speaker 5: getting to go against them in real game action. I

806
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 5: got to go against them in practice all the time,

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Speaker 5: so it's fun. And uh yeah, there's there's a little

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00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 5: extra motivation, you know, you want to put it on,

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00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 5: put it to the team that you just you just

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Speaker 5: work with for three years.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but then talk about the revitalization here. Obviously

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Speaker 1: signed the big two year deal this offseason, well worth it.

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Speaker 1: And then to go through something like that and then

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Speaker 1: get rewarded on the end, I don't know, I guys

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Speaker 1: how to word this, but it was it almost seemed

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Speaker 1: like a worthwhile experience in Atlanta. It doesn't seem like

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Speaker 1: you have any ill will You almost maybe had to

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Speaker 1: do that to get to where you are. Would that

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Speaker 1: be accurate in.

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Speaker 5: Say, yeah, everything I've been through I had to go

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Speaker 5: through to get where I am. So yeah, there was

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Speaker 5: there was all. Every year has been different for me,

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Speaker 5: my rookie year, my second year, and my third year,

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Speaker 5: last year with the Lions, and this year with the Lions.

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Speaker 5: It's every year has been different, but it's built me

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Speaker 5: in different ways, and so I appreciate any time that

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Speaker 5: I've had in this League and anytime I had over Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, every year has presented a different challenge.

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Speaker 5: I was hurt with that rookie year kind of playing

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Speaker 5: out a position, my second year playing a lot of

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Speaker 5: interior against the roun playing too high in a shade.

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Speaker 1: Uh So that was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: But I got to play a lot. And then my

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Speaker 5: third year not playing at all and kind of being

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Speaker 5: on the fence of playing and not playing, and so

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Speaker 5: I got to see, uh the good and the ugly

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Speaker 5: of the NFL, and so yeah, and then and then

838
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Speaker 5: to get my chance here last year and to things

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Speaker 5: to fall into place and to win games when I

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Speaker 5: get to start games, and uh yeah, it's it all

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Speaker 5: worked out, and I appreciate every year and every moment

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Speaker 5: that I've had so far.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about them a little bit. You guys have

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Speaker 1: done a terrific job against the Run. I think you're

845
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Speaker 1: ninth after two games, and defending the run I think

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Speaker 1: eighty six yards a game. You guys have been really

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Speaker 1: good in that department. It's a little bit different of

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Speaker 1: a beast though, with Atlanta, isn't it. I guess what's

849
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Speaker 1: jumped out with them on tape? They seem to me

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Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter if they get thirty yards on

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Speaker 1: thirty carries. They're going to continue to run it until

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Speaker 1: they bust one. And what is unique about their schemes.

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Speaker 1: What kind of challenge do you guys have in the

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Speaker 1: run game this week?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Arthur Smith, I remember he used to tell those

856
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 5: offensive guys just run off the football. That's what we're doing.

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Speaker 5: We're running off the football. So they love that outside zone.

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Speaker 5: He's stubborn and he wants you to know that they're

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Speaker 5: running the football. He wants everybody to know it, and

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Speaker 5: he wants it to succeed. You know, it's just it's

861
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 5: kind of like that bullyball. And like you said, they'll

862
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: run at thirty times for thirty yards, they'll they'll keep

863
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 5: pounding the rock, and so that's unique. You know a

864
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: lot of teams will go away from the run once

865
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 5: it's not working out. Also, that heavy outside zone scheme,

866
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 5: they have a lot offensive linemen that can move ball

867
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 5: and so they're sprinting side to side, and so that's

868
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: going to be different and for us holding our gap

869
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 5: and moving our feet, we're going to be moving our

870
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: feet a lot more and running with our gap and

871
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 5: so you know, we've already put an emphasis on that

872
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 5: getting ready to play this outside down.

873
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: So change a couple of things for you guys on

874
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: the edge with the scheme like this, you have to

875
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: be a little bit more. What do you have to

876
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: really be cognitant of setting the edge because that's what

877
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: they want to do is get out and get into space.

878
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's setting is definitely important against a team like this.

879
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 5: They want to stretch that field and they do everything

880
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 5: they can. You know, even like the guard tackle combo,

881
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 5: you're setting the edge is against the tackle that guard.

882
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 5: We'll try to get on your hip and stretch that field.

883
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 5: They want those running backs to get on that track

884
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: and they're just waiting for a guy to jump out

885
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 5: of his gap. And so it's definitely going to be

886
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 5: a different challenge for us. It's going to challenge our

887
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 5: defense as a whole because we're going to need everybody

888
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 5: in their gaps. They have a lot of good backs

889
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 5: over there, and they have a chance that Patterson is

890
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 5: going to be coming back, and he runs. He's a

891
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 5: hard runner too, and he's a vet, so he's got

892
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 5: a lot of good visions. So they have those backs

893
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 5: trained well and those offensive linemen know how the backs run.

894
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 5: So it's gonna take all eleven of us spanning our gap,

895
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 5: holding our gap strong, and being disciplined.

896
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: You know, Bijon's obviously the big story over there, the

897
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: number eight overall pick, and he's been good, rush for

898
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four yards and catching football's last week.

899
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: But Algiers is a thousand yard rusher that I think

900
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: does maybe get a lot of credit. Mean, he's a big,

901
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: physical back. You mentioned Patterson obviously, the spied guy. They've

902
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: got a trio of guys that could run the football

903
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: there that kind of brings something unique to the table

904
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: every time they step on the field. It's a unique

905
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: challenge probably for you guys with how dynamic and different

906
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: those three guys.

907
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they have three guys that can get it

908
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 5: done in different ways. They got five offensive linemen that

909
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 5: are committed to running off the football and finishing on

910
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 5: the ball, and so it's gonna be a physical game.

911
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 5: I like games like this because it's really an effort game.

912
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 5: It's really about running the ball. It's about playing harder

913
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 5: than the guy in front of you, and those guys

914
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 5: like to play hard, So it's my kind of game.

915
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 5: It's our kind of game. We're excited to play it

916
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 5: and we're excited for the challenge.

917
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: I like that word effort, guessing maybe finish was maybe

918
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: a word that you guys have talked about on the

919
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: edge too. You look at the first two games, thirty

920
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: four pressures. I believe it is by Pro Football focus,

921
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: but you know, obviously the one sac with Alex is

922
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: that a frustrating part of it because you guys are

923
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: getting pressure, you're affecting the quarterback, but just not being

924
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: able to quite finish and record those sacks. And look,

925
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: sex isn't the end all be all statistic, but they

926
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: obviously affect the game and they affect drives. I'm just

927
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: curious how frustrating hasn't been. Is it not frustrating? I

928
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: guess where do you guys stand with being able to

929
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: get pressure, but you quit haven't been able to finish

930
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: it with sacks the first two weeks.

931
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 5: They come in bunches, you know, and we're gonna We're

932
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 5: gonna stick to our guns and keep doing what we're doing.

933
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: You know, there's more emphasis on getting off the blocks

934
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 5: on the edge instead of just you know, uh, creating

935
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: that pressure, and so yeah, we want our sacks, but

936
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 5: we know they're coming, and uh, you know, we just

937
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 5: got to keep keep going, keep rushing the same way.

938
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: It's those things will come.

939
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: You know.

940
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 5: It seems every time that Aiden's working us, he's got

941
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 5: an elite spin move out there on the edge, balls

942
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 5: out quick, and sometimes that's just the way the cards fall.

943
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: And so we're just gonna keep going and keep chopping

944
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 5: at it, you know, and those things will come.

945
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: So a couple of big injuries, obviously, c J. Garner Johnson,

946
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: you lose him, James Houston a guy in that room there.

947
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: It's just kind of a next man up mentality. But

948
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: but how hard is it to lose kind of some

949
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: key guys like that this this early on.

950
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely it hurts for sure. You know CJ

951
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 5: came in here, he was a new guy this year,

952
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 5: but came in and assumed a leadership role and brought

953
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 5: a lot of juice. You see him on the field,

954
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 5: you know how he plays, and so we'll miss him.

955
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 5: But you know, we got Tracy Walker coming in. He's

956
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 5: he's an elite football player, and you know, you can't

957
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: forget about Tracy Walker.

958
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: I just to have a guy like that just kind

959
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: of sitting in the ways. Yeah, I think it was

960
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: sixty thirty seven start sixty four games like that. You

961
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: usually don't have a guy like that it's able just

962
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: to step in.

963
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's ready to go, you know. And then

964
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 5: we got we have depth in the in the d

965
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 5: line room too, So yeah, it's a next man up,

966
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 5: you know, Dan Campbell address that. And it's not just

967
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 5: on our side of the ball. We got guys banged

968
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 5: up on offense. And so that's why he always talks

969
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 5: about just be ready to put them. You never know

970
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 5: when your number is gonna be called. You're gonna have

971
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 5: that helmet on Sunday, You're gonna be ready to go.

972
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 5: And so I think as a group, you know, we

973
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: we we've been pretty motivated and unified that way. So

974
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 5: I think the guys that are going to step in

975
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 5: are gonna we're not going to skip a beat.

976
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: So Ford Field last week that I was up in

977
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: the press box and it was out, I got the

978
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: notification on my phone. I did the whole tweet that

979
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm at these decibels on my on my watch. I

980
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: can't imagine what it was like down the Field. Just

981
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: what was that atmosphere, like John and and how much

982
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: of an advantage is that and how much do you

983
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: need that again this week?

984
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, the fans gave it all they got, so we

985
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 5: all on one, you know, that's how we feel. We

986
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 5: feel like we all on one. They brought the they

987
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 5: brought the jews, especially on third down and there at

988
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: the end. I haven't seen those decibels get that high

989
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 5: since since we've been here, and so the place was rocking,

990
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 5: and so yeah, it's definitely an advantage and we're gonna

991
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 5: use it again this week. We we gotta get the

992
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 5: job done and finish it this time.

993
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: Finish it. I like it. It's a huge week. Obviously,

994
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: they're two and oh looking to go three and oba

995
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: contenders in the FC. You guys are looking to get

996
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: back on your winning ways. Ford Field should be rocking.

997
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: It'll be fun to watch you guys get after the quarterback.

998
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me. I appreciated always. Yeah,

999
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.