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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, June twenty eight, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we are

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Speaker 1: already celebrating our independence to day. It's me your man, MG,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, joined by Michael f. Floya. We're in studio.

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Speaker 1: We got specialists Josh and Susie. You just said the

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Speaker 1: round of the laws, please thank you. And a special

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Speaker 1: guest today. It is our friend, our colleague. You know

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Speaker 1: him from NFL Fantasy Live. You know him from probably

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Speaker 1: doing news updates on the network. You want to talk

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Speaker 1: about jack of all trades here at NFL Media. It's

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Speaker 1: the one only, Patrick claybaugh Man.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you, good to be here, number one

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Speaker 2: yes man in the world that you guys can give

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Speaker 2: me a question and I can say yes.

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Speaker 1: And it's not like I'm not worried about job security

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Speaker 1: or anything. Yes, I would love to do the pot

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Speaker 1: there it is. So we brought Patrick in. This is

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Speaker 1: our last show before July fourth. We're gonna be off

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Speaker 1: next week because of the holiday, So we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: some running backs. There are a lot of big name

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Speaker 1: free agent running backs that are out there. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about maybe where some good fits are for them. You know,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about some first round guys that maybe could

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Speaker 1: disappoint you I won't say bus but maybe disappoint you

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Speaker 1: based on what you expect from them, and maybe guys

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Speaker 1: who who exceed expectations. But also Florio's film festival this

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Speaker 1: week is the nineteen ninety six Classic Independence Day, and

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Speaker 1: you know, on top of Patrick's football knowledge, you are,

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Speaker 1: as far as I am aware, the foremost expert on

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Speaker 1: this film within the company. So when we decided we

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Speaker 1: were going to talk about this movie, there was only

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Speaker 1: one person we had to go to and that was you, and.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your decision to not go quietly.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, so we'll get to that. We also actually may

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Speaker 1: we may have a double feature because you Florida, you

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Speaker 1: watched two.

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Speaker 3: Movies this week because in season I mean a peak

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Speaker 3: behind the Curtain. I guess there's a lot of references

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Speaker 3: from Snakes on a Plane that you two make that

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Speaker 3: I don't get at all. So I was like, if

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Speaker 3: Patrick's coming on the podcast, I feel like this is

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Speaker 3: the perfect time for me.

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Speaker 1: To watch, right, So we will talk to Snakes on

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Speaker 1: a Plane. It's not a nineties action movie. But it's

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Speaker 1: a nice, nice double up there for it was.

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Speaker 3: I have some thoughts on it. It was an interesting movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. Before let's let's get the football part

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Speaker 1: out of the way. A couple of headlines. James White says,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick loves Rabandre Stevenson thinks that he's going to

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Speaker 1: have a big workload. He's gonna have a really productive year.

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Speaker 1: But Florio, there's a drum beat for Ti Montgomery about

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Speaker 1: what he can do. Are you buying this Time Montgomery hype?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm all in on Ramadre Stevenson. I have

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Speaker 3: him as an RB one. I'm fine taking him in

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Speaker 3: like the second round. After that. The Patriots running back

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Speaker 3: I think I consider the most is Pierre Strong because

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Speaker 3: I'm like he can kind of do Time Montgomery is, like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we were making the jokes about it before

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Speaker 3: the show started, Like it goes all the way back

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Speaker 3: to twenty seventeen when he first started this and it

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Speaker 3: never works out for fantasy, Like maybe Time Montgomery could

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Speaker 3: have a couple of good games here and there where

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Speaker 3: he catches some passes. I don't want to play the

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Speaker 3: guessing game of when that's going to occur, and I

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Speaker 3: don't see any reason why they're gonna shy away from

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Speaker 3: using Romandra Stevenson as a three down back. So when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the Patriots backfield, it's kind of steven

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Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of feel like that Patrick you

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Speaker 1: mentioned before the show. He just turned thirty. I feel

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Speaker 1: like he was way older than that.

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Speaker 2: Because the conversation has been a thing for so long.

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Speaker 2: But the last time he had more than thirty targets,

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Speaker 2: which was when he had forty in twenty eighteen, he

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Speaker 2: Montgomery falls just to try to.

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Speaker 1: Make it work. It didn't work. And that's when he

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Speaker 3: Slight downgrade, a little bit of a downgrade.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you. I'm not buying it. I can't

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Speaker 1: get into the time Montgomery thing. Meanwhile, in Dallas, dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott See's rookie running back do Vaughn as helping the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Quote immediately, Patrick, I know you were once upon a

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Speaker 1: time sort of a Cowboys fan. I know, you've kind

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Speaker 1: Do you see Deuce Vaughn being the Cowboys RB two

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, as far as the workload split, it's

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Speaker 2: difficult to think that Deuce. I could see Deuce Vaughan

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Speaker 2: Like can you give the ball to the guy and

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Speaker 2: have him get yards? I'm just not sure that early

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Speaker 2: you're making a fantasy decision that in banking on well

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Speaker 2: maybe week six, seven and eight, things get going, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna start to get itchy, like you're gonna and so like,

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Speaker 2: why put yourself in that situation? I just think for

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Speaker 2: perhaps late season RB two for Dallas, But is he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's sort of the thing, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tony Pollin's going to get a ton of work.

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Speaker 1: Douce Vaughn, I'm sure get on the field and have

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys continue to say that Malik Davis is the

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Speaker 3: is the backup, not Ronald Jones, But I could see

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Speaker 3: being either one of those two guys. My thinking, much

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Speaker 3: like Patrick is, I was thinking this will be like

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Speaker 3: what like Naheim Hines was with the Colts, which is

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Speaker 3: like when Jonathan Taylor goes down, Naheim Heines' role doesn't change,

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Speaker 3: Emery Hunt, though, who was super high on duce Vaughan

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Speaker 3: but I see Vaughn being a weapon for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: but one who his role doesn't change, whether you know.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll just have like a set role and

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Speaker 1: That is the RB two. Yeah, I mean, look, I

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Speaker 1: which is not the answer that fantasy folks want. We

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Speaker 1: just want to know. We want teams to be like,

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Speaker 1: this guy's gonna get sixty percent of the touches, this

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Speaker 1: of playing a guessing game, Tony. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Tony Pollard seemed like he's coming in like the late

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Speaker 3: second round, sometimes even early third. To me, I thought

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Speaker 3: I'm all in on Tony poll which.

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Speaker 1: I thought so too once they let go of Ezekiel Elliott,

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Speaker 1: but it hasn't really materialized. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: h Ronald Jones is back home again. He's you know,

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Speaker 2: Are they gonna give Rojo the goal line carries like that?

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Speaker 2: Is that the type of situation where you're worried about

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard, just like Zeke lab Sure getting twelve touchdowns

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Speaker 1: Slam all Zeke. I mean, your yards per carry a

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Speaker 3: We should like as many stats as the fantasy community

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Speaker 3: did it today, you can only get yards.

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Speaker 1: They shouldn't hurt you. You know, let's let's put that

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Speaker 1: out there. I'm sure somebody out there has somebody's gonna

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Speaker 1: be like that success rate, Mike, exactly for years that

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Speaker 1: we've already had it and you just haven't been paying attention.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. I feel like that was a good

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Speaker 1: way to sort of get into the free agent running

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Speaker 1: back fits, and I picked five guys who are notable

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Speaker 1: first one is Dalvin Cook because he has been linked

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Speaker 1: to a lot of different places. Miami has been one,

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Speaker 1: Dallas has kind of been one. Tyler Conklin says, there's

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Speaker 1: plenty of room available in New York, which I'm like,

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Speaker 1: we like, Breeze hall Man, Like, what.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing seven running backs already?

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Speaker 1: Right? Like, I don't you know, Like I appreciate Tyler

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Speaker 1: Conklin trying to help his seam, not like, what the

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Speaker 1: hell looking at Dalvin Cook? Last year just over eleven

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Speaker 1: hundred nearly twelve hundred rushing yards, thirty nine catches for

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Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety five receiving yards, ten total touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He was the RB eleven. Uh. The good news is

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Speaker 1: that he was fifth in yards after contact. He was

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Speaker 1: over expectations. So there was good, uh, and there was bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick, when you're looking around, is there a

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Speaker 1: team that you look at that seems like, I guess,

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Speaker 1: let's put it in fantasy fantasy perspective, that is a

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Speaker 1: good fit for Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 2: The problem is a good team fantasy wise for Dalvin

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Speaker 2: Cook is going to be a bad team, right, It's

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Speaker 2: going to be a points wise team where you're not

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Speaker 2: necessarily sure how things go.

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Speaker 1: We just talked about Remandre.

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Speaker 2: I know that Dalvin had liked to tweet where somebody's like,

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Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook, you are a Patriot and he went in

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Speaker 2: there and smashed it like button. But he's doing that

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Speaker 2: for a lot of fans right now. He's trying to

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Speaker 2: drum up attention and energy. Like I wouldn't mind it.

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Speaker 2: I believe more in Remandre. I mean in Dalvin than

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Speaker 2: I'm doing Remandre. And maybe it's because Remandre plays for

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Speaker 2: the team that he does, and then you'd put Dalvin

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Speaker 2: there and then I would feel differently.

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Speaker 1: But he was very good.

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Speaker 2: And for all the injury shamers who apparently have gone

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Speaker 2: through the weapon X program and they're pervious to pain

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Speaker 2: and suffer, he played every single game. So like, what's

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Speaker 2: what's what's wrong? What do you what do you not

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Speaker 2: like about Dalvin? I like Dalvin? Get him on a

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Speaker 2: good team. Why not the Patriots?

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Speaker 1: It would be nice to get him on a good team,

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Speaker 1: Get him somewhere where he can compete. I mean, Patriots,

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Speaker 1: somebody else.

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Speaker 3: I'll stay in the same division. I continue to say,

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Speaker 3: The internet loves him like no other.

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Speaker 3: It would be some guys, you know, trying to salvage

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the hit behind the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: Exactly who you're gonna why not the Buffalo Bills? Why

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense to me, it does. It does

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Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: You're spending a lot of money on the guy, and

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Speaker 3: don't know if Zeke and d Hopper boys, but if

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Speaker 1: It's a big state state. Leonard Fournette, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Looks like Paxton Lynch, like Paxton Lynch, Patrick is there

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Speaker 2: And and perhaps again it's confirmation bias, and I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: Lenny got out of Jacksonville he can catch the ball right.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't some sort of issue with him as a

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Speaker 2: future Hall of Famer, Like, why not that that would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that Leonard that the cam Akers Sean McVay rely.

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Speaker 3: even as much as I like Akers, the depth behind

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Speaker 3: It was two players their entire offense.

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Speaker 3: but they're on this whole like we need to start

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see Fournette in Vegas. I could see him.

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Speaker 2: because when when Mike was talking about Dalvin in Miami

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00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 2: and the way that they use their running backs in

431
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 2: McDaniel year one, was that a reflection of how they

432
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: want to use their running backs or was that a

433
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 2: reflection to the running backs that were failed to them?

434
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 1: And I feel like.

435
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt might change that. And and that's why I

436
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 2: feel a little bit a bit different about the spot.

437
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: And I think Miami would be very good with Kareem Hunt. Yeah,

438
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 2: I think in Miami could work.

439
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 1: I will I will kind of take one of your

440
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 1: previous answers Patrick and say why not the Rams put

441
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 1: him here in Los Angeles alongside alongside Cam Akers and

442
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 1: have him be kind of that pass catcher, Because I mean,

443
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: I look at the Rams offense and I don't. I

444
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: don't know who the number two target is after Cooper cup.

445
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's maybe it's Tyler Higbee, maybe it's

446
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: Cam Akers. You know, I know, I know, I know

447
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: all the draft nerds love Pooka Nakua, but you know

448
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't pook Coop. Is I gotta step in and

449
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: suddenly get you know, eighty targets? If he does things

450
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: I think have gone badly for the Rams this year,

451
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: why not Kareem Hunt put him in that backfield, see

452
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: what he can do in that Sean McVay offense. There

453
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: last one. And I put this here because it's a

454
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 1: name that hasn't really gotten a lot of attention, although

455
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: he was on Good Morning Football this morning. I saw

456
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 1: it as I was walking in the building. Melvin Gordon,

457
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: who last year three hundred and eighteen rushing yards, twenty

458
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: five catches, two hundred and twenty three receiving yards, two touchdowns,

459
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: rbat fifty four, was let go and then signed to

460
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: Kansas City's practice squad in late November. I guess in

461
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: theory he's got a Super Bowl ring now right since

462
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: he was a practice.

463
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 3: He called himself a backpack and I love it.

464
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 1: Hey man carried to it. Amen, at least you know

465
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: who you are. Man. I respect that. I don't know Patrick,

466
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: if there's a good fit for him or I mean,

467
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: is it is it possible that the league just may

468
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 1: have retired Melvin Gordon.

469
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 4: I think it could work somewhere. I'm I'm not in

470
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 4: a position where I'm thinking about drafting Melvine. It's just

471
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 4: the fact that he couldn't even get on the field

472
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 4: late in the season. The Broncos were like, Hey, it's

473
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 4: all your fault, and we joked about it, like the Broncos.

474
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 4: Actually it was jokes aside there I just maybe maybe

475
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 4: come home, maybe come back to Los Angeles. Yeah, and

476
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 4: you know, we can mend things and get a role

477
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 4: here in a place that you know you can be comfortable.

478
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: But run it back one more time with with Austin Eckler. Yeah.

479
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: Other than that, I'm not I'm not saying it. Yeah,

480
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

481
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 3: You've seen funny because I was going to say the

482
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: exact same thing, like let him come home for a year,

483
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: you know, to turntable moment instead of us clamoring to

484
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: get more Eckler. It's just like Melvin Gordon's the back

485
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 3: of it, but also like the Chargers have been searching

486
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: for an RB two for years with Josh Kelly, Isaiah Spiller,

487
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 3: there was Larry Larry Rowntree, who I mean that guy.

488
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's still leaving in the but

489
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: it just hasn't worked out for them. And obviously Eckler's

490
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: going to be there RB one, but they could use

491
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 3: someone to on short yarded situations to spell him a

492
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: little bit. I just think it would be a cool

493
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: story for the Chargers and for Melvin Gordon.

494
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think so. I just I'm kind

495
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: of with you, there's no obvious fit. I think if

496
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: if somebody calls, it's going to be a bad team

497
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: that just needs maybe a veteran presence or kind of

498
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: just a body to fill in. I mean, you know,

499
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: I could see him getting a call from a Houston

500
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: or a Carolina or somebody like that. But you know,

501
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: there's no easy, obvious answer for Melvin Gordon. I just

502
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: thought it was kind of an interesting name because of

503
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: all the free agent running backs. I mean, he's out there,

504
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: it's nobody's really talking about Melvin Gordon. And I guess

505
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: when you get scapegoated and booted off a mountain in Denver. Metaphorically,

506
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: there's just not gonna be a lot of interest.

507
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: I will admit to being wrong because it was significantly

508
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: less than a year ago when Adam Rank started calling

509
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: him Melgo.

510
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: Melgo, we were like, that is preposterous. It's all I

511
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: think about when, I mean, it's sort of worked out

512
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: because Melgo was mel Gone eventually in Denver, so it's

513
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, it sort of worked itself out.

514
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: But I do, I do. I don't like the fact

515
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: that we sort of encouraged that and we made it

516
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: these things.

517
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he Melvin Gordon shoved the most beef

518
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: because since we've started calling him that, his career.

519
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: Has That's true, that's true. So like we need a

520
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: new name for him. I guess which Flash was? It

521
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: was there, it was, It was totally there, Flash Gordon.

522
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't we have done that to me? That nickname

523
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: never fit because he's not very fast. I mean, that's fair,

524
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: that's fair. It was funny. I was going through and

525
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: looking at this. I had forgotten that he did not

526
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: score a touchdown at all in his rookie season, and

527
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: everybody thought he was going to be a huge bust

528
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: because of that I just pulled up.

529
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: He's earned way more money playing for the Denver Broncos

530
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 3: than the Chargers, and that seems wild to me.

531
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's kind of what So he

532
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: got a second contract and yeah, and he got a

533
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: second contract before team's decided unilaterally that they're just not

534
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: gonna pay running backs anymore. So he sort of got

535
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: in under the wire where he could actually hurt himself

536
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: a decent, decent salary playing running back relative obviously to

537
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, other running backs, that sort of thing. Take

538
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: a quick break, we'll come back. We will talk about

539
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: some first round guys, the guys we think could out

540
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: perform their ADP, guys who maybe will disappoint you a

541
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: little bit as well, and we'll get into Florio's film

542
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: festival bit of a double feature. We got Independence Day,

543
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about whether or not we've had it

544
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: with these snakes on this plane that's coming up after

545
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: the break here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Figured,

546
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, we could talk a little bit of first

547
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: round fears, freak outs. You know, maybe some I don't

548
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: I can think of a positive word that starts with

549
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: F but Anyway, I went through the first round ADP

550
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: on a specific K nine themed Best Ball site Underdog,

551
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: and here it is as of yesterday. Justin Jefferson one,

552
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase two, Tyreek Hill is three. Christian McCaffrey your

553
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: first running back at four. Cooper Cup is five, Travis

554
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: Kelsey's at six, Stefan Diggs at seven, AJ Brown at eight,

555
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: Austin Eckler is at nine, b Jon Robinson at ten,

556
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: Ceed Lamb at eleven, Garrett Wilson is at twelve. So

557
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: right now in Best Ball drafts, you are getting three

558
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: running backs on average in the first round, which is

559
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: sort of amazing considering, you know, five years ago it

560
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: would have been completely the opposite there, Patrick, When you

561
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: look at this list, is there anybody there that you

562
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: look at that said that you think could outperform their ADP.

563
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: I know it's a tall it's a tall order when

564
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: you're talking about first round, but anybody there that just

565
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: is gonna have a bananas season?

566
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, because again, you're it's kind of like the

567
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: draft right where you go into the draft value chart

568
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: and the number one pick is a thousand points instantly

569
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: lose seven. I think Cooper Cup could do much better

570
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: than five. Yeah, like if you're considering that what he

571
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: has done, what has been on the field, Yeah, I

572
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: think he could vastly outperform that.

573
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know people love him. I don't know, is

574
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: that your answer.

575
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 3: I always I put it out on Twitter a decent amount, Like, Yeah,

576
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 3: two years ago, Cooper Cup had the best receiver fantasy

577
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: season ever, and then last year if you use just like,

578
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: if you take away the game where he got hurt

579
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: on like the first play of the game and then

580
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 3: didn't play again the rest of the season, he was

581
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: on pace for the second most fantasy points ever by

582
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: a wide receiver, behind only Cooper Cup. From a year

583
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: prior to that, he was averaging more per game than

584
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson. And I know we all love Jefferson because

585
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: he's the shiny new toy and he's younger and he's

586
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: objectively amazing. But Cooper Cup, what he has done in

587
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: the last year and a half is not even Justin

588
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: Jefferson could like, no Jerry Rice in his best year

589
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: and a half stretch has touched it for fantasy purposes.

590
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, you know, people love Cup and it

591
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: is kind of weird to see him going so far

592
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: down and that's air quotes so far down because he's

593
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: at number five. I'm gonna go Garrett Wilson just because

594
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: we love Garrett Wilson and now he's got a quarterback.

595
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to the fact that we were

596
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: excited just to see Mike White playing quarterback because it

597
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: meant better things for Garrett Wilson last year. Right, So

598
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that

599
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is a slight upgrade over Zach Wilson and

600
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: or Mike White, so that seems to be good things

601
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: for uh, for Garrett Wilson. I'm also gonna be interested

602
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: to see which Jets player gets the requisite hard Knocks

603
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: fantasy bump, because he, you know, either has a clever

604
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: quotes or they show him doing something kind of special

605
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: to practice and everybody's like, oh now we gotta go

606
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: get you know fill in the blank here. I could

607
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: see it being Nicole Hardman because he's just very fast,

608
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: because fantasy people have wanted to make you a thing

609
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: for a while.

610
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: But I could also see it being Alan Wizard because

611
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: I feel like he's going to be attached to Aaron Rodgers.

612
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: At the hip and people are gonna be like, look,

613
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: they're eating breakfast together. It's like Cooper Cup two years ago.

614
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: I hope not on the flip side, Mike, who can

615
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: just who might disappoint? I won't say a bust because

616
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I think all these guys are going to have good seasons,

617
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: but in terms of like I spent the first round

618
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: pick on this guy and I'm kind of underwhelmed, who

619
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: might that be?

620
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: I think it's the running backs like MC. I love

621
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: CMC and Eckler. They're my RBS one and two. But

622
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: CMC is in a very crowded offense where when Elijah

623
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: Mitchell was healthy last year, they did use him more

624
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: than any RB two got used in Carolina, So that

625
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: could be a threat there with with Austin Eckler, there's

626
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 3: a new offensive coordinator and Kellen Moore, who typically has

627
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: been more of a downfield play caller than Joe Lombardi

628
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: has been the last couple of years with the Chargers,

629
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: so that could lead to maybe some fewer dump offs

630
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: for Austin Eckler, although I still believe he'll could lead

631
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: to more efficiency for him. And even like Bijon, I

632
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: love Bijeon but like, what if he it doesn't get

633
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: as much work as we're anticipating. What if Tyler als

634
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: year early on has a larger role? So for me,

635
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: I think that, paired with the fact that you could

636
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: get some super safe running backs in round two, has

637
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: led me to avoid the round one running backs.

638
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: All Right, any guys out there that jump out to you, Patrick,

639
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of the same thing me and Micro on

640
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: the same page today. What it would mean for the

641
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: world if for the second year in a row people

642
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: are drafting in Atlanta Falcon early only to have Arthur

643
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Smith have a completely different plan. It actually be the

644
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: third year in a row. So we had Kyle Pitts

645
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: and then you know Drake London. Oh my god.

646
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were just going to go back to

647
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: back to back, because what's the number going to be?

648
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: Two hundred and ten carries for Tyler Algier last year

649
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: iRED forty four for Cordero. I guess he could take

650
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: some of Mariota's carries because Mariota had eighty five. Like,

651
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: what what's the number that we think it's going to

652
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: be for Bijon? Right, Because even if you combined Cordero

653
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: and Algiers targets like you're you're right around fifty for

654
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: the season. That would be a solid season. But the

655
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: players that we can get in that spot maybe nippicking.

656
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: But looking at this, at this top ten, because it's

657
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: such a good top ten, maybe I'm thinking more thirteen

658
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: to fourteen for Bijon. But it's that's the one that

659
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: jumps out to me, is yeah about this.

660
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean sadly, like, you're never gonna get him at

661
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen because everybody is so hyped about him

662
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: and it only takes one person to make that move

663
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: and then he's going to be off the board. I mean,

664
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: I think realistically, yeah, I mean, if you're talking about

665
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five touches, I feel like that's

666
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: a realistic number. I think in our heads we have

667
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: projected him for like two seventy five, three hundred. Right.

668
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: The thing that I think has overlooked with them, it's

669
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: twofold one. They attempted thirty passes per game with Desmond Ritter,

670
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: which isn't a lot, but it's a hell of a

671
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 3: lot more than the twenty four per game they were

672
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: attempting with Marcus Mariotah. So that just might mean less

673
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: rushing attempts. Plus, the Falcons were in a ton of

674
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: close games last year. There's schedule this year is significantly harder.

675
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: So if they're getting blown out more, because I'm not

676
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: willing to say that they're they're contender or anything like that,

677
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: if there's less close games, that just also could just

678
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: mean less running just based on game scripts.

679
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's possible. I'm still in on Bejeon. I've safted

680
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: him a couple of times, but I think I just

681
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: think we just have to understand it. It's in within

682
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: the range of outcomes, and maybe he's sort of underwhelms

683
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: because Arthur Smith does that to us.

684
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: He could be the RB six and it would be underwhelming.

685
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the thing I think we've I

686
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: think we've built him up so much that if he's

687
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: like not RB two or three, then he's gonna be like,

688
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Bejeon? Which is totally unfair to be

689
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: Sean Robinson.

690
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: And maybe because I'm looking at this list and I'm seeing,

691
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Rodgers number one and Dak Prescott's number

692
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: one after Bejon and it's like, oh yeah.

693
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's funny because I think I think Ceedee

694
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Lamb's a guy who can who could disappoint, but not

695
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: because of Ceedee Lamb, just because Mike McCarthy might put

696
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: some shackles on him that he's he's, you know, running

697
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: the offense there. I mean, at least with with Kellen Moore,

698
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: they would take shots and they would be aggressive, you know.

699
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean, remember, part of the reason people got fed

700
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: up with McCarthy and Green Bay is just because it

701
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: was so predictable and so just milk toast. And that

702
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: combined with Brandon Cooks, who I still don't understand why

703
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: teams White NFL teams don't like Brandon Cooks. Nobody wants

704
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: to just hold on to him for an extended period

705
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: of time. But I think that there also takes some

706
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: food off of CD's plate. Again, I think all these

707
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: guys are good. I think they all have great seasons.

708
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: Just some of them may have less great seasons than

709
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: other guys. So anyway, I just wanted to kind of

710
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: take the pulse of some first round guys and see

711
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of how we're feeling about that. Onto the important

712
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: things now. Yes, it's time for the latest edition of

713
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Florio's Film Festival. We got a double feature today, and

714
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: I made sure we gave ourselves a little elexture times

715
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: we could get through two movies in this one, but

716
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: the first one the headliner Independence Day. The quick synopsis

717
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: is the Aliens are coming and their goal is to

718
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: invade and destroy earth fighting superior technology. Mankind's best weapon

719
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: is the will to survive. It was released on July third,

720
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, with a budget of seventy five million,

721
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: grossed eight hundred and seventeen million worldwide. Before the show,

722
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: Susie said she had seen it, but she'd never seen

723
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: the ending and she didn't know how it finished. And

724
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: we're like, well, it's it's pretty much what you think

725
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: it is.

726
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: When not overran by aliens.

727
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: The good guys sort of win this whole thing. So

728
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: floorial because this was your first time seeing it, your

729
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: initial takeaways from the movie.

730
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to insult anyone here because I know

731
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: this is a very popular movie.

732
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I liked the movie.

733
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: I thought it was a little long. I thought it

734
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 3: could have been cut down a little bit. The action

735
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: was great, and I understand why it was so mind

736
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: blowing at the time, Comparing it to movies in twenty

737
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 3: twenty three, it wouldn't do it justice. I feel like

738
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 3: the only issue I had, besides it being a little long,

739
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: I thought was they could have developed the characters maybe

740
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: a little bit more, made him a little bit more.

741
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: We had a lot of characters. There was so many

742
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: different characters.

743
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 3: Bill Smith doesn't appear till like twenty minutes into the movie.

744
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Like I forgot he was the.

745
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: Main character of the movie while watching. But the action

746
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: is great, the the fighting of the aliens and everything,

747
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 3: like learning about them and everything, because I believe aliens exist,

748
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: like so, so that part was all really entertaining. But

749
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: I just was like, it's like two hours and forty

750
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 3: minutes or something like that.

751
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: That was to twenty Maybe it's a brisk I felt

752
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: like it was shorter than I remember. Oh okay, to

753
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: be honest, because I felt like when I sat down,

754
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is gonna be kind of long. I

755
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: felt like it blew by, like all of a sudden.

756
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: Before I knew it. Bill Pullman was making his big

757
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, hype speech to the assembled masses there.

758
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: I just felt like the scene where one he's a

759
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: bad husband for leaving the first lady behind, but the

760
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: scene where like she's they're they're saving her. I was like,

761
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: I could have done without that scene. I felt like, yeah,

762
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, not so much a bad husband.

763
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: I think he's kind of a sketchy father in the

764
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: sense that his wife.

765
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 1: Just died, right, his daughter is still dealing with losing

766
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: her mother, and he's gonna go up in a fighter

767
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: jet and fight aliens, like forget the fact that he's

768
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: the president, right, and like the president might die doing this,

769
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: like from a human perspective, like you really might just

770
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: orphan your daughter in the space of a few hours

771
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: if you don't do this right.

772
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: I don't know which is a I guess the thinking

773
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: maybe is like, well, if I die, we're all gonna die.

774
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 3: But like like if we lose this fight here, which

775
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: to me, maybe this is dark. I'm like, if I

776
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 3: was in that scenario, I'd be like, well, the whole

777
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: world's ending, so I'm okay with it.

778
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, it was an all hands on deck situation.

779
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: We needed every pilot available to fire air to air

780
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: missiles at this spaceship for some reason. Why we can

781
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: go up and drop or maybe you know, use some

782
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: long range artillery regardless, you have to you have to

783
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: disband all of that because essentially it's a it's a

784
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: tale of humanity, as you said in the tagline, the

785
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: will to survive, because these aliens have been crushing it.

786
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: They've gone from planet to planet. They were willing to,

787
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, to talk to Ish right to say like,

788
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: this is our plan, this is what we do, who

789
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: we are.

790
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: And Bill Pullman's like, you know, they go from planet

791
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: to planet, use every available resource, and then they go

792
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: to the next one. And I'm thinking, like, hey, that

793
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: sounds like capitalism. We did a black secret service station

794
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: to be like wait a second, but like there was

795
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: and so it's like there's kind of some varying difficulty

796
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: with like what the alien suits are able to do.

797
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: They can, they can some points withstand several bullets and

798
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: sometimes Will Smith's right hand is a little too. But

799
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: but you get through all of that, and it's like,

800
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: how do we bring all of these people together. You know,

801
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: you've got you've got a presidential staff in DC. You've

802
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: got a broadcaster and an engineer in New York. We

803
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: have an exotic dancer, we have a fighter pilot, and

804
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: all of these people coalesce together and eventually save the world.

805
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: And despite all of its flaws, and despite all of

806
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 2: the inherent flaws of this you know, empire and monstrosity

807
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: that we live in, it puts that red LIGHTE and

808
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: blue on me every year.

809
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: It makes me feel a certain way about the things

810
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: that we do here. I will say that, like watching

811
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: it again, like you do get emotional, right when Bill

812
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: Pullman's standing on top of a platform and he's got

813
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: the microphone and you know, he says, we will not

814
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: go quietly into that good night. And today we are

815
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: celebrating our Independence Day. Like if you don't get a

816
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: little bit of something like, you're probably dead inside. Right.

817
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: I did enjoy all.

818
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: My question was like where's the rest of the world,

819
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: Like it happens in the montage, just the peak of

820
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: the movie where they're like tell the world like this

821
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: is how you take them down and they go through

822
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: and you're in Africa and you're in France and the

823
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: in thea like everywhere, and it's like, hey, they did it,

824
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: Like we did this together. The world's going to be

825
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 2: a better place. And we're not going to talk about

826
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: the sequel.

827
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: The sequel bad you know what.

828
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I didn't bother to see it. I will say that

829
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: my one big takeaway from this movie was kids, make

830
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: sure that your anti virus software is up to date.

831
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 3: Yes, that that was interesting to me that he uh,

832
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 3: I forget the actor's name, that he was able to

833
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: break into their system and kind of like give them

834
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 3: a virus. Like I was like, that's some pretty advanced coding.

835
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: I guess they're also what kind of like, yes, they

836
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: do win, But I think it overlooks the fact that

837
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: like many of the world's largest cities had already be destroyed.

838
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, billions of people died. That this was Stanos levels.

839
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: It's not quite What's the Rock movie that again, our

840
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: colleague loves so much sans the fact that almost everybody

841
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: died there except except the main characters.

842
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, happy ending, like everybody is dead.

843
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean I always sort of love that too. That

844
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: at the end, you know, Russell Case uh you know,

845
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: decides that he's going to fly up into the spaceship

846
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: and destroys the whole thing. Everybody on the ground is celebrating,

847
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: and like one soldier looks at the sad kid it's like,

848
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: oh wait, yeah, your dad's dead.

849
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: And he's like, I'm proud of it. I also was

850
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: like at some point because even after they see the aliens,

851
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: he's like, remember all the horrible things I told you

852
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: they did to me? And people are like, you're just crazy.

853
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, he has, what more evidence do you need?

854
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: It was you know, you know, I get pointing and

855
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: laughing at him, like before all that happened, but once

856
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: the spaceship showed up, it's like, hey, maybe let's go

857
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: to Let's go to russ here he has the most

858
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: experienced in sight on what to do. Uh. You talk

859
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: Patrick about how this, you know, brings the world together,

860
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: all these these individuals and all these different you know,

861
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: cultures and countries. Uh, that did not happen in real life.

862
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: The film was banned in Lebanon under pressure from Hezbollah

863
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: because it included scenes where Israeli and Iraqi soldiers joined forces. Uh.

864
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: So Hesbla is like, that's not cool and can have

865
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: peace and force the Lebanese government to not allow this

866
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: movie there. So yeah, you know, it's so it wasn't

867
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: cool for everybody. You do have to suspend some disbelief.

868
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I could see somebody's point

869
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: of view, it's like, I don't know, man, I don't

870
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: know if I don't know if that dude's gonna trust

871
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: that guy.

872
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: That that to me is also like there would be

873
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: someone in real life, like if this happened in real life,

874
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 3: we'd all be like, we need to beat the aliens,

875
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: and then there would be someone who would find.

876
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: A way to like monetize it or go against us

877
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: or something like that. Oh well, Twitter would have no

878
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: shortage of contrarians.

879
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: Twitter would be.

880
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Hilarious, would be so great side No, though this was

881
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: the original plot of Watchmen, like they changed it for

882
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: the movie, but in the book, Ozamandius actually creates an

883
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: alien that he uses to attack Earth to help all

884
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: the governments of the world join forces and you know,

885
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: find common ground. They changed it significantly in the movie.

886
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: Again for the World's Smartest man, I feel like, you

887
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: come up with better with the better plan, better plan,

888
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: Maybe we don't need maybe kill the people who are

889
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: the problem.

890
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily billions of right, like you know, who knows.

891
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: Some other fun facts here. The US military had agreed

892
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: to support the film by allowing the crew to film

893
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: at military bases. Consulting the actors who have military roles,

894
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: et cetera. However, after learning of the Area fifty one

895
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: references in the script, they withdrew their support, which Flora

896
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: you and I were saying before the show, like that

897
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: just feels like they were a little too on the

898
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: nose and the government's like, ooh, we got to back

899
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: away from Yes, clearly something exists at Area fifty one

900
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: that they don't want us to know about or anything

901
00:42:59,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: like that.

902
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: And I don't know, maybe maybe these aliens are working

903
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: with our government. I don't know, something's going on.

904
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: It does explain the fact that they didn't have the consulting,

905
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: the reason they were flying in visual range shooting air

906
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: to air the city size spaceship.

907
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: I also thought it was funny that, you know, the

908
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: first time they encountered the alien fighter ships, I mean

909
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: they get wiped out pretty quickly. Oh yeah. The second

910
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: time around, when they have a collection of just like

911
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: whoever has been behind it, you know, ever been in

912
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: a cockpit before, Like, I mean, you have an alcoholic

913
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: crop duster out there, right, And somehow they were able

914
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: to hold their own, maybe even better than the actual

915
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: trained fighter pilots.

916
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: I also love that Will Smith steps into a foreign

917
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 3: spaceship and immediately knows.

918
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: How to drive. Well, it goes backwards first show you

919
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: that he was a learning curve, which also makes me

920
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: wonder about NASA's selection process if he couldn't get selected

921
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: to be part of NASA but was able to out

922
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: maneuver an alien in his own spaceship dot to think.

923
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: About it, very non existent only the reference of NASA. Yeah,

924
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 2: what role did NASA almost played?

925
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: No role.

926
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: I don't think that that was their specialty too.

927
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just I mean I think it was just,

928
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: you know, as a way to humanize him, to show

929
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: him being disappointed by not getting the role, and then

930
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: showing that you know how great he is, and then

931
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: you're like, why didn't NASA pick this dude? Maybe. Other note,

932
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: filming at Lax was delayed several days due to a

933
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: threat from the Unibomber, which is sort of wild. There

934
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: are a lot of time markers in this movie. I

935
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: mean the one that that always gets me, Like when

936
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: you see a movie in New York and the twin

937
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: towers are still standing same, that's always very much a

938
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: time marker.

939
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: I saw that, and then they get destroyed in the

940
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: movie by the Aliens, and I was like, damn that

941
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: that's again a little too on the note.

942
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: It is, but it was also five years before nine

943
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: to eleven, so you know, you sort of get it.

944
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: Matthew Perry was original. They offered the role of Captain

945
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy Raven Wilder, who ended up being played by Harry

946
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: Connick Junior. Perry pulled out at the last minute. I mean,

947
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: could it have been any more different? Save joke, I

948
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't have liked the movie. So I just couldn't imagine

949
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Matthew Perry in.

950
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: That because I just picture him as Chandler the whole time.

951
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically, so I don't know.

952
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a note about Will Smith dragging the

953
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: unconscious alien. Yeah, I did love that. That alien stays

954
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 3: unconscious the entire time, from one punch.

955
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: From one one punch, the plane crash, and then the

956
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: punch because he was awake after the planker.

957
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm an alien, you gotta welcome to Earth,

958
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: and I dragged across the desert and take it to

959
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: a military base.

960
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: It never wakes up again.

961
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, he wakes up to uh to you know, hijack

962
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: the doctor, only to be shot later by by the military. So, Floria,

963
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: having seen this, now, would you willingly watch it again? Yeah?

964
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: I think this.

965
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: I understand why you watched this movie around?

966
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: Are you watch put it on? Go do whatever else

967
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: it's on? Like, it's just on.

968
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 3: I understand.

969
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Why is it like the twenty four Hours of Christmas

970
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: story where you just sort of moop it?

971
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: Now, there's just some point in the day where we

972
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 2: turn on Independence Day. It's a lot like the Christmas

973
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: a whole lineup, right, You're gonna get your Diehards, you're

974
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: gonna get your Christmas vacations, and they're just gonna be playing.

975
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 3: I've never seen either of those movies.

976
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: It's good, but you never seen die Hard.

977
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: No, well, actually no, I watched it last Christmas for

978
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: the first time ever because people wanted me to settle

979
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: if it was a Christmas movie or not, which I

980
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: kind of think it is.

981
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: I've given up that fight I used to think it's not.

982
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: I've given up. I know, I know, losing argument when

983
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: I see it.

984
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: So it's not a Christmas movie, but it's Christmas themed.

985
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. That's fair, all right. So so

986
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: Independence Day gets a thumbs up from Florio. I would

987
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: imagine when you do your rankings, it probably will settle

988
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle.

989
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: So I have the.

990
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: Rankings and I think I'm gonna put it behind Terminator too.

991
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it ranks fairly high then.

992
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: Which would be seventh out of eleven. It would be

993
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: like behind pulp Fiction, Crimson Tide, Speed Point Break, kan

994
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 3: Air okay, which I'm like, maybe I have con Air

995
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 3: too high.

996
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: I forgot. We've seen so many movies now that that

997
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: T two has been pushed down the list of.

998
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the both of the Keanu Reeves movie

999
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: we watched. Crimson Tide was amazing, and pulp fiction is great.

1000
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: And I said, you said, uh, War of the World's

1001
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: need pulp fiction. I would sign up to see those movies.

1002
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: Cross over, War the World beats pulp fiction. Yeah I could.

1003
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: I could. I mean that's apparently what how they pitched

1004
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: this movie to these studios, so so uh just they

1005
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: heads up because Florio says he always confused this movie

1006
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: with Armageddon. So in two weeks when we're back, we're

1007
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: gonna watch Armageddon. I was made fun of for that

1008
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: with both of you guys that they are they are

1009
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: they're they're very different movies. They're very different to me.

1010
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 3: It's just the world is ending and it's alien.

1011
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the world is ending.

1012
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: You have to suspend disbelief because there's questionable decision making.

1013
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: There's a love story and one has Bruce Willis.

1014
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 4: Yea.

1015
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: Now, if you're gonna confuse movies, m getting in Deep

1016
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: Impact because Deep Impact was another comment racing towards Earth

1017
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: and famous sister films.

1018
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: Yes, they came out at the same time, right, there's

1019
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: a whole Wikipedia article on all these movies.

1020
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: They have the same plot decision thing.

1021
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: Might be the most realistic part of these movies now

1022
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: that I think about, because I feel like if this

1023
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 3: was happening, we'd all be like, why are they doing this? Yes,

1024
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 3: So maybe that's what makes it realistic.

1025
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: And in the last few minutes here, because Patrick and

1026
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: I talk about Snakes on a Plane a lot on

1027
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: the show, and we've been trying to get you to

1028
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: watch it, you finally want. It's not a nineties movie,

1029
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: it's from like two thousand and six, but your thoughts

1030
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: on Snakes on a Plane.

1031
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: It's not a good movie, but it is everything I lot.

1032
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 3: It's a lot like Fast and the Furious, Right, in

1033
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 3: the sense of like I go into it being like

1034
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: I want bad entertainment, and it lived up to that.

1035
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: There's moments where like when the young couple goes into

1036
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: the bathroom, I'm like, clearly the snake's about to get them,

1037
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: Like they're the first to go. When he says the line.

1038
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: I was very excited with that that point.

1039
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: That's the climax of the movie. I have had it. Yes.

1040
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: It was so funny too, because Nicola came in and

1041
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 3: she was like, has he said the line yet? And

1042
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: that was like no, And then like five minutes later

1043
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 3: he says it, and I'm like, you know the meme

1044
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: of DiCaprio.

1045
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: I was like. That was.

1046
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: Also the the It has one of the longest introductions

1047
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 3: of any movie I think I've ever watched, where it's

1048
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: like seven minutes of just like a guy on a

1049
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: dirt bike and I'm like, what does this have to

1050
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 3: do with snakes? And then I.

1051
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Understood, I mean it really it didn't need It was

1052
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: sort of like a motorbike exhibition for a little bit.

1053
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: It was like they got a stut stunt rider and

1054
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: we paid him a lot of money, so we're just

1055
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna use all this footage in the movie.

1056
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: I also like though that they they make the characters

1057
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: on the first characters to go, Like the dude who's

1058
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: using the bathroom and he keeps pushing his eyebrows in

1059
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 3: the mirror. I'm like, yeah, I would like to see

1060
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: this guy get eaten by a snake right now. The

1061
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 3: guy who throws the dog, it's immediately eaten.

1062
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, instant, instant retribution. I think it's really a movie

1063
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: that you enjoy with people. And I've told you guys

1064
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: this story, and I'll tell it to the listening public.

1065
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: I was in the Continental Cinemas five in Troy, Alabama,

1066
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: uh with you know, forty people. Tickets were sold out,

1067
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: theater was packed, and we hugged when he said the

1068
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: I hugged a stranger. That was celebration because we just

1069
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: talked about Independence Day, you know, like after the speech

1070
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: when that guy gives the salute, like that was the

1071
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: moment and it was so important, and like we meme things,

1072
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: and there was the whole Morpheus meme where people were

1073
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: saying that Jared Leto like looked at the camera and

1074
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: said it's time. People were disappointed that wasn't in the movie.

1075
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: But these Monday to Friday snakes off. This Monday to

1076
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 2: Friday play actually happened, and it was great.

1077
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was I just remember when the

1078
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: movie came out, like seeing a trade I like with

1079
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: my mom and she looked at me and she's like,

1080
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna go see this movie? Actually, I'm like, I

1081
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: am absolutely going to go see this. You know me

1082
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: very well, I'm see it.

1083
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: I do love too that when he says it's not

1084
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 3: like early in the movie, like he's truly fed up.

1085
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, he is. He has truly had it with

1086
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: these monkey fighting snakes on this Monday Friday plane.

1087
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: Also the nicest first class I've ever seen on a plane,

1088
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: Like you have to go upstairs to get there. I

1089
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: had never seen. I've never first class is just a

1090
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 3: little seat ahead of you with a sheet in front

1091
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 3: of it on planes nowadays, I've never seen a private

1092
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: first class like that.

1093
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: Well, and like the fact that the government just commandeered

1094
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: all of first class as opposed to, Hey, we just

1095
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: have a couple of Marshaals and we're gonna, you know,

1096
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: wedge this dude in a middle seat and let him

1097
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: do his thing.

1098
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: My other favorite part about that is the rest of

1099
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: the plane had to have been empty because all of

1100
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 3: the characters are people who just like were rejected from

1101
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: first class. They'll sit in the back like that rapper guy,

1102
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: a triple G I think his name is. He gets

1103
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: a whole role to himself. I'm like Keenan Thompson was

1104
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 3: arguably the best character was.

1105
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: In that in that movie.

1106
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: Fun fact about the movie, it was actually because the

1107
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: genre had been made multiple times, right, We'd reproduced die

1108
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: Hard for over a decade, and then we had multiple

1109
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: die Hard on a Plane movies. You know, you have

1110
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 2: die Hard on a train, You've had passers of fifty seven.

1111
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 2: There's Air Force one and they were gonna name it

1112
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: Pacific Flight one twenty one. And Sam Jackson got on

1113
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: the set and he was like, change it back to

1114
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: Snakes on him.

1115
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: He said that that was the only reason I took

1116
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: this job because of the title of the movie.

1117
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 2: Really yeah, and so it it thematically worked. The movie

1118
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: had an attitude. It knew what it was and that's

1119
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: why it's perfect. Ye, it's an absolutely perfect movie.

1120
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: You talk about bad plans from for the mob the

1121
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: mobster point of view, it seems like a pretty bad idea.

1122
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: It's very conpilent. It's a really complex idea, Like you could.

1123
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 3: Just send someone on the plane to try to take

1124
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: him over the whole plane. Instead, he's like, you know

1125
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: what we're gonna do. We're gonna get up a bunch

1126
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: of things from around the world and make what the

1127
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 3: spray like makes them angry or something.

1128
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the pheromones get them really hyped up and

1129
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: they want to start attacking.

1130
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: I'm guessing he goes to prison. My favorite part about

1131
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 3: the whole movie though, was Sam Jackson surfing at the end.

1132
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: I was like, I felt like he's a surfer in

1133
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: real life and he wanted to show that off.

1134
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: I also it is it's a good point though that

1135
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: they don't you don't actually see the outcome of the trial, right,

1136
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: Like that's the whole point is that you're you're transporting

1137
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: this witness from Hawaii to Los Angeles for a trial,

1138
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: and you don't actually see you don't. I guess you

1139
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: just assume that dude goes to prison. That's what I imagined,

1140
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: because you don't. You don't you don't actually get to

1141
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: see the outcome of that.

1142
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 3: Also, I don't remember the dude's name, but the guy

1143
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 3: who's on the dirt bike terrible, like they didn't see

1144
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 3: you in the woods. You could have they and they

1145
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 3: say like, let's leave. If you waited a couple more minutes,

1146
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 3: they have no idea you're there at all, but instead

1147
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: you jumped on the dirt bike and then without all

1148
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: they know is that someone on a dirt bike saw them,

1149
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: and the next day them and Sam Jackson are at

1150
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 3: his apartment. I was like, this, this seems a little

1151
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: out there.

1152
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: A lot of technology, I mean, you know, or maybe

1153
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: he was channeling his Nick Fury a little bit and

1154
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: just finding out what people were. Who knows. So would

1155
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: you watch this again on purpose?

1156
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: I think it would be one of those movies i'd

1157
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: watch like with friends or something like that. But if

1158
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: I was like watching TV by myself and it was on,

1159
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 3: I don't think I would.

1160
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: Throw No, it's it's best, like like Patrick said, it's

1161
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: better in a group setting.

1162
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: Oh, going back to Independence Day real quick, I wanted

1163
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: to add because I never know what came first, what

1164
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: happened first. Because the actor who plays Will Smith's son

1165
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: in the movie is Nicky from The Fresh Prince of

1166
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 3: bel Air. Did he take him from the show.

1167
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Or I think he was on the show first and

1168
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: then he ended up in.

1169
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 3: The good for Will Smith getting getting people work, getting.

1170
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: Kids work Man, Yeah, exactly, all right, that was pretty hefty.

1171
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: A lot of movies, A lot of movies, A lot

1172
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: of movies. I mean, look at summer, there's not a

1173
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: lot of actual football things happening, so we get to

1174
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: do stuff like this, So watch movies. Watch movies, folks,

1175
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: watch movies. Like I said, we're often that week for

1176
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: the Fourth of July holiday, So you all enjoy be

1177
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: safe wherever you are. I know in certain parts of

1178
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: the country there is extreme heat right now, so stay safe,

1179
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: stay hydrated, stay cool as much as possible. Uh, you know,

1180
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: just and everybody just try to enjoy their weekend. Patrick,

1181
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out with us, Man, thanks for having me.

1182
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: It's good to have you. And I don't know, we'll

1183
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: either try to get you again. If that well, we'll

1184
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: see you when Fantasy Life starts back, which who knows

1185
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: when that's gonna Yeah, I hope, I hope so too.

1186
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: Today year's crossed, so so we will see in the meantime.

1187
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: That'll do it for this edition of the Fantasy Football Podcast.

1188
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well.

1189
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: Enjoy the holiday everybody, and we'll talk to you again

1190
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: real soon.

1191
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't help