1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all all over 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of a 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: not even in the stratosphere of normalcy here. Let's get 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: it going here on a Friday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: with you, as we are now less than two weeks 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: away from the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. How far 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: away we are from spring is a completely other story. 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: As I told Steve about three weeks ago when the 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: weather started to turn, beware, this is fake spring, and 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: it has in fact proven to be the case, even 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: though last week there were tempts in the eighties one day, 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: and here we are still shivering, well, maybe not shivering, 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: but wearing layers. Oh yeah, we're both waiting for the 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: possibility of some snowflakes tonight. Yesterday you show up in 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: a red sweatshirt quarters. We have a problem, I dentical 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: red sweat quarter zip. Today we're both in gray hoodies 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: with the R It's better than yours, but yours is 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: so gray. Buffalo build is not yours? Is Yeah? I 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: like mine better your pocket thing those got it? I 21 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: like that? But this kind of detail. Mine's brand new. 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: Yours is a like last year's model. It might be 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: even older than that. But I don't pull this one 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: out very often, so it's in good shape. Yeah, it's 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: in really good chape. This one's I probably only warned 26 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: this thing half it does. This is a week old, 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: but I've worn it like a lot since I got it, 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: and we need to because right, oh god, they're even 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: doing a split screen. It's so this ridiculous. Yeah, that 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: is interesting looking at how much higher your logo is 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: on your sweatshirt than mine. Mine is something considerable lower 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: my pot gut push pushes. Oh I was gonna say 33 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: it's because if you're rippling pecks. I thought that was 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: the reason my six pack. As I walk around with 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: my six packet works its way up my chest there. Yeah, 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: whatever it takes, right, So, yeah, we are. I don't know, 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: believe me. We've gotten plenty of ribbing from the control 38 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: room for wearing identical tops here twice this week now, 39 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: two straight days, two straight days are that's We're in 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: the astronomical realm of odds. We are. So after the show, 41 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: I am going to get a Powerball ticket. Mine came 42 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: up woefully short on Wednesday night. Oh you got one? Yeah? 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: Was it was the jackpot big? Or do you do 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: that regularly? I did a powerball and a the other 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: one mega millions. I did both, and you know what 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: I do, I don't even check. So I haven't even 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: checked if I won, because I know that if they say, 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, somebody bought a ticket in EA who 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: won the lottery, then that's when i'd go check. That's met, 50 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: it's gott It's got to be me because I'm the 51 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: only one hasn't checked, right, I didn't even check my numbers. 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: I'll just go out and because I know that word 53 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: around the street will say, hey, somebody bought it the 54 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, grocery store in East Aurora. That's when I'll 55 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: go check. Yeah. In fact, I'm I am tempted right 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: now to go wad my lottery, take it up and 57 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: throw it without checking it that I probably won't do that. Yeah, 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: I mean you can look, you can look online, you 59 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: can probably pull it up on your phone. I can 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: do it right now, but I'm maybe I'll do it 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: in the break. Yeah, and I'll tell you that I 62 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: got out of them. So if Steve is not here 63 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: for the second show. You will know why the five 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: chances that I bought, I will have like one number 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: that corresponds with one of the women, yea, and one 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: of my opportunities. Right, That's basically how it goes for me. Yeah, 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: I think the best I have ever done and I 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: don't and I don't buy those very often. Is I 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: think two numbers. I think two is the most I 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: have ever got. Think I had three, But it was 71 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: like on some don't you get something if you have 72 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: like fours or something. I don't know, I just you know, yeah, yeah, no, 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't. Speaking of lotteries, the draft is very much 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: a lottery for the thirty two NFL teams. How about 75 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: that segue s gotta be a professional? Uh? And the 76 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: and the draft. We know that we saw a lot 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: of quarterback movement thus far this offseason. We saw teams 78 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: also making trades to jockey four the opportunity to draft quarterbacks, 79 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: most notably the San Francisco forty nine ers who moved 80 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: from twelve up to three. And that move is of 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: importance as it pertains to this report, which originated in 82 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: Denver on a radio station there from a reporter named 83 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Cecil Lammy, who is reporting that the forty nine ers 84 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: much earlier this offseason offered the Jets that first round 85 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: pick at twelve in this year's draft for Sam Darnold. Now, 86 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: as we know, Darnold has since been moved to Carolina 87 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: for a sixth round pick this year from the Panthers 88 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: and a two and a four next year. That was 89 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: enough to get it done, and now the Carolina Panthers 90 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: have Sam Darnold as we know what. I don't know 91 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: how this kind of report gets corroborated because it seems 92 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: to be I don't know how to term it, but 93 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: let's just say that Cecilammie is not a reporter who's 94 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: known for breaking news of this magnitude. Usually that is 95 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: dominated by the familiar names that we see all the 96 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: time around the league, whether it's Ian Rappaport or Adam Schefter. 97 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: Not to say that he couldn't, he certainly could got 98 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: winto something and was able to get a second source to, 99 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, to confirm it or corroborate it. So I 100 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: don't want to dismiss it. But here's the interesting thing, Steve. 101 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: As we know the history of the Jets and their 102 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: decision making with respect to roster building borders on a 103 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: tragic comedy, I think in many ways, and there are 104 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: a multitude of examples over the years of that. All 105 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: you have to do is watch the montage they run 106 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: every year on ESPN of the failed draft choices of 107 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: the New York Jets, and you can go from Johnny 108 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: Lamb Jones to Kyle Brady to Roger Vick. I mean, 109 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: there's a slew of them. And now there is this 110 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: report that instead of getting a six this year and 111 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: a two and a four next year for Sam Darnold, 112 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: they could have got the twelfth pick in this year's 113 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: draft for Darnold, which would put them in the following 114 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: position two, twelve, and twenty three in this year's draft. 115 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: And then I think they have two third round picks 116 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: in a second Well, they wouldn't have the two because 117 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: they'd give that to the Niners on the trade. No, 118 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: it was Darnald for twelve, Darnald for twelve. Yeah, Darnald 119 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: for twelve, Steve, that's nuts. You're stupid. What are you 120 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: doing now? According to the report, it says the Jets 121 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: were uncomfortable with pulling the trigger on this deal because 122 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: they had yet to see Zach Wilson and other quarterbacks 123 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: justin fields at their respective pro days. Those had not 124 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: taken place yet. San Francisco was trying to make a 125 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: preemptive strike, offer the twelve pick in the draft for 126 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: Darnald Nice clean deal, here's the twelve pick, give us 127 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: the young quarterback, you know, let him come home to California. Whatever. Yeah, 128 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: and the Jets balked because they wanted to drill down 129 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: on all the quarterback prospects in this year's draft, which 130 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: I guess I can understand, because what you're saying is, 131 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: all right, you want the guy we have in house already. 132 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: We got to do a little more homework on the 133 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are in this year's class where we feel 134 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: comfortable doing that. So they said, give us some time, 135 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: and the Niners in the meantime just jumped up and 136 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: took the number three. She said, well, screw that, We're 137 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: not waiting on that. We're just gonna go get the 138 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: third pick because we like, yeah, because we like if 139 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna take this Zach Wilson or not, we'll take 140 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: one of the other guys. Yes, And we think unless 141 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: they take Kyle Pitts or somebody, and the momentum has 142 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: not slowed on the Niners taking mac Jones. There is 143 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: more and more momentum that that is in fact going 144 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: to happen. Here's the thing, we know what this time 145 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: of year is called Steve Lying Season. And so yeah, 146 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: you hear all this smoke and mirrors about mac Jones 147 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: and how the forty nine ers are in love with 148 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: this guy. I am not going to debate for a 149 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: second that he is arguably the quarterback in this draft 150 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: with one of the highest football IQs. I don't debate 151 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: that for a second because that's his number one elite trait, 152 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: what he has between the ears, Because he doesn't measure 153 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: up with the physical traits of Trevor Lawrence, justin fields, 154 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Zach Wills. He just doesn't or Trey Lance. But what's 155 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: between his ears is elite. And you can go a 156 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: long way at the quarterback position with a high football 157 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: IQ provided you have enough of the physical traits to 158 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: get by. Tom Brady's a perfect example of that. That 159 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: guy can't run. I mean, he looks like he's running 160 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: in mud every day of the week. His arm is 161 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: good enough, but I don't think anybody would tell you 162 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: he's got a gatling gun on the right side of 163 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: his body. He never has I don't think no ever. 164 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: But it's it's a good arm. I mean, it's a 165 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: pro arms. But his hyper competitive nature football and his 166 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: burning desire to be the best, along with a high 167 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: football IQ has made him arguable, well not arguably, the 168 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: most successful quarterback in the history of the league. And 169 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: if the interest on the Niners part in mac Jones 170 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: is legitimate, it is because of those same reasons. It 171 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: has to be, because there aren't any other elite, redeeming 172 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: qualities about mac jones game besides his decision making and 173 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: football IQ. And that's fine. If that's who they like, 174 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: that's great. But it's going to be very interesting to 175 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: see how it pans out because this is the lying season, Steve, 176 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: and you hear all this chatter about how the Niners 177 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: are in love with mac Jones at three, And the 178 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: thing that's so peculiar about that to me is this, 179 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: while it is lying season, the Niners really have no 180 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 1: reason to lie because the general belief is Lawrence one, 181 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson two, Mac Jones, you know, So what are 182 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: the Niners have to worry about if they love mac Jones, 183 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: he's not going in the first two picks. Or maybe 184 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: they are concerned that the Jets like Justin Fields, and 185 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: so the Niners are trying to throw them off the 186 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: scent and say, oh, we love mac Jones, and so 187 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: the Jets are like, oh well, but I mean the 188 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Niners picked behind them anyway, right, whoever the hell you 189 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: want it to. Or the Niners may think the Falcons 190 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: like one of those players, or and they will jump 191 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: up to try and get one, or yeah, but you know, 192 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and the Jets aren't trading out of those spots 193 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: they need quarterback, right, I don't It seems it's peculiar 194 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: to me. It seems the true they're playing it close 195 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: to the vest on the outside chance, and I think 196 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: it's no chance at all, but a small chance that 197 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: the Jets or Jaguars do something crazy, really crazy, as 198 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: in move out of there, as in doing something that 199 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: makes him look like the New York jetsof you know, 200 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: we just said they passed on a first round pick 201 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: for a player they traded for a sixth round pick pick. 202 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's true, what are they doing. I 203 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: wanted to believe if they were that their current general manager, 204 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas, who comes from the Philadelphia organization, was a 205 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: little is a little more astute than their previous gms, 206 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: of which I do not need to run down the list, 207 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: because their shortcomings were evident in what has happened to 208 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: that football team time and time and time again. They've 209 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: all had a contribution in the Jets reputation. Right, So 210 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: I kind of thought, all right, this guy comes from 211 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: a team that's, you know, made good moves in the 212 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: draft at times, maybe not consistently year over year, but 213 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: the Eagles have made some good decisions here there in 214 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: the draft, and you know, they're only four years removed 215 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: from a Super Bowl title, three years whatever it is. 216 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, okay, he was a part of that. 217 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: You know, he knows what it takes to build a 218 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: winning formula. Maybe he builds that team into at least 219 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: a respectable competitive opponent, and he still might. But but 220 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: you hear a report like this, and if you're a 221 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: Jets fan with the history that you have endured your 222 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: entire life, you're thinking, man alive, we just got a 223 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: gift basket thrown in our lap. Could have had two 224 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: twelve and twenty three in round one, and you just said, yeah, 225 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna wait on that. You know, 226 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a minute. I like the sixth, and 227 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: I like the sixth and possible fourth. What is it 228 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: what they get from Carolina? They got a two and 229 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: a four next year and a sixth this year, So 230 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: I'll do that. Yeah, I like those three picksis proof. 231 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. By by taking a six this year 232 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: in a two and a four next year from Carolina, 233 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: it's proof to me that the offers of first round 234 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: picks were virtually non existent. So if this one was 235 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: on the table and you didn't take it, oof just 236 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you want to throw up in your mouth 237 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: a little bit if you're a Jets and if you didn't, 238 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: if you hadn't done enough work at that point to 239 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: know that Fields had a chance, Lance, the Lance had 240 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: a chance, Zach Wilson had a chance. Any of these 241 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: other guys, Mac Jones had a chance. If if you're 242 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: gonna sit there and pass on that deal because you 243 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: didn't know if any of those guys had a chance 244 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: to be what Sam Darnold has been, what are you doing? Yeah? 245 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Apparently the concern was the state of Zach Wilson's throwing shoulder, 246 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: which had been injured and needed to get checked. No combine, 247 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: no medical exams, this, that, and the other. So in 248 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: a way you can understand it, the Jets were somewhat 249 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: a victim of circumstance. Why are we going to part 250 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: with our twenty four year old quarterback who we still 251 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: think might be revivable in terms of his career and 252 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: we know what he is. While we like Zach Wilson 253 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: a lot, he had this shoulder injury. We couldn't get 254 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: the medical exam at the combine and let's wait until 255 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: the pro day. We can get our hands on him 256 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: there see how he's doing. Blah blah blah. All right, 257 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's a good enough reason. But man, 258 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: when you see what they ended up settling for to 259 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: move Darnold, it's like, can't get a break, can't get 260 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: a break, and the Jets. Yet it's that's rough the Jets, 261 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: it's so jetsy, and it just if that's all true, 262 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: that that's pretty It almost seems like that's tough. If 263 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: if they didn't want to do that, I would almost 264 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can believe it, because there's 265 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: so much going on here. Certainly it would have been 266 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: if I would have been the owner of the San 267 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. I'm gonna go on. They didn't 268 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: take that? Yeah, but then you know what John Lynch 269 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: says to him, it's the Jets. But do you know 270 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: what I would have done. I would have blasted that 271 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: all over social when they traded Sam Darnald for a 272 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: six and a second, I would have blasted them on Social. 273 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: I would have I would have said, what about our 274 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: number one twelfth pick? Overall? Why didn't you take that? Yeah? 275 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: I would I wasn't so mad. So now that I'm thinking, 276 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the timeline here, the Niners 277 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: made the trade up to three before the Zach Wilson 278 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: pro day. If I have Mike Ducks in a row 279 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: on that I believe that is the case, Well, that 280 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: would have to be the I believe that's how it happened. Yeah, 281 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident of that. So they made a move 282 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: before the Jets could even get on the phone again 283 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: and say hey, yeah, yeah, you know the about that 284 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: twelfth pick you were offering, That sounds really good to us. 285 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Now you will still do it. It's already done, deal, Lucille, 286 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: that train left the station. So yeah, if that comes 287 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: out later and is fully corroborated and vetted as accurate, 288 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: man oh man, man oh man, it's just oh so delicious. 289 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Friday edition of One Bills Live. The 290 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: obl Fan Friday Mailbag questionnaire is open for you to 291 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: make use of throughout the course of the show. So 292 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: if you have a question about Buffalo's roster, the NFL draft, coaches, players, 293 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: the league at large, the offseason program, whatever is on 294 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: your mind that you might need answer, Steve and I 295 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,479 Speaker 1: are here to provide answers for you, as we are 296 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: every Friday on this here program. So fire those questions off. 297 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: We will get to them at an appointed time here 298 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 1: in the show, maybe as early as next segment. We'll 299 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: start answering a few that are on the tweet sheet, 300 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: So fire away. You can also call in with a 301 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: question if you have something that's on your mind that 302 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: you'd like to get a concrete answer to. Steve and 303 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: I'll do our best to accommodate you. Eight oh three 304 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: oh five fifty one eight eight five fifty two five 305 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: fifty We've got a jam packed show for you today, 306 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: as we typically do on Fridays. Coming up in the 307 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: second hour of our program, about forty five minutes from now, 308 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: the newest Bills guard Forrest lamp will be joining us. 309 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: Just signed last week and he's here. Yeah, and a 310 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: guy that started sixteen games last season for the Chargers' 311 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what he's come in here and compete. Man. Yes, 312 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see what their team thought about 313 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: this team when they came into play here in Orchard 314 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: Park last show. Yeah, that's a good point, you know, Yeah, 315 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: that'd be a good question. He saw what, you know, 316 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: what was the personality the defense? You know, ask him, 317 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: you know what they scout, what the scouting department for 318 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: the Chargers tell you about the Bills when you came 319 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: in here to play. What do you think of, Josh? 320 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: What do you think of the running game? The deep 321 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: not the running game, but what do you think of 322 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: the defense? You know? Yeah, I mean I kind of 323 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be pushing for a starting job. 324 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: I really do. Between Feliciano and Ford, whoever they want 325 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: to put him in direct competition with, He's gonna be 326 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: pushing somebody because that's why this guy is starting caliber. 327 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: And when he came out, I mean, I remember I 328 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: went down to the Senior Bowl in twenty seventeen when 329 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: he was when he was at the Senior Bowl and 330 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: he was widely seen as the best guard in the 331 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: draft class that year. And he comes off the board 332 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: in the second round and goes to the Chargers. Then 333 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: had some injuries each of his first two seasons kind 334 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: of compromised his development. But man, last year, sixteen straight starts, 335 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: went all the way through, played pretty well, played one 336 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the snaps for the Chargers on offense 337 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: last year, and I think that was a big reason 338 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: why the Bills felt comfortable signing him and bringing him in. 339 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: And I mean some people say, oh, yeah, good depth 340 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: signing there. This guy's gonna push for a starting job, right, 341 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: I think he is. Yeah, he's a guy that's physically 342 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: he's up to it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 343 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: he's a second round pick, so he checked some boxes off. 344 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: He's got the feat to do it. Um. Certainly it 345 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: didn't go as well for him in in uh Lay 346 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: slash San Diego as he as he would have wanted 347 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: otherwise he would you know, they would have they would 348 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: have brought him back. Yeah, but certainly that's a spot 349 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: down in the interior line where the Bills wanted to 350 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: get some depth, wanted to get some quality competition. Um 351 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: because after you know, they did this last year as well. 352 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: Remember Brian Winners came in real late, righte was camp 353 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: was starting and so and Ryan Bates had been here. Um, 354 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: and they just signed Quentin Spain to And you know, 355 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: you think, because the old add he's just signed a 356 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: new contract, you're not going anywhere right there, Not so fast. 357 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: I was gone by October. Quentin Spain was gone early October, 358 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: like five games in after being deactivated for a couple 359 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: of games. He lasted like two weeks and gone. Um. 360 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: So despite the fact that John Feliciano has been resigned, 361 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: Darryl Williams has been resigned, they're gonna they're gonna have 362 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: to earn it. Yeah, they're gonna have to earn it. 363 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's that is just the way they 364 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: run it here and and and good for good on them, man, 365 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: they get they get production out of that. That's they 366 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: like to have everybody on their roster with a fire 367 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: underneath them, and I think that what happened to this 368 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: offensive line last year, particularly at the guard position, I 369 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: think prompted them to seek an upgrade in terms of 370 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: a wing guard for lack of a better term, because 371 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Brian Winners started the season at right guard because Feliciano 372 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: was out injured at the beginning of training camp with 373 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: a torn pack due to a weightlifting mishap. And then 374 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: as we know, Cody Ford got injured right after Feliciano 375 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: came back, and Quentin Spain got jettisoned. Winners was out 376 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: of the lineup after Feliciano came back, and you know, 377 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: it was kind of a hodgepodge at the guard position 378 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: last year, and it wouldn't surprise me if it prompted 379 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: the pro personnel department here to say, you know what, 380 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: we don't want to be in a position where the 381 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: guy that we're putting in there to fill in is 382 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: a step back from, you know, the starter, and so 383 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: let's get a guy who can actually compete for a 384 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: starting job. And then that way, whoever isn't the starter, 385 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: is a guy that we'd feel comfortable starting for us, 386 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: right because that's what you have now between Feliciano, Ford 387 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: and lamp in my estimation. And let's not forget I 388 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: Butcher's still here. I tender to qualifying offer as a 389 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: restricted free agent. So you're four deep at guard. It's 390 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: pretty damn good. Yeah. Yeah, he played. He played in 391 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: all sixteen games last year. He's six four three fourteen 392 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: I think is what I just saw. And he's I 393 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: just like getting guys who've got so much starting particularly 394 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: recent starting a starting experience. I'm so yeah, we're gonna 395 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: have him on. It's gonna be nice to talk to him. 396 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: He's you know, obviously he's been to Buffalo last year. 397 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: He's a five year guy, twenty seven years old, still 398 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: kind of ready to get sitch p Yeah, and I 399 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: think he's an intriguing signing. Yeah, no question. Third hour 400 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: of the show, we have our weekly appearance from one 401 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell from NFL Films. He's been shopping up the film, left, 402 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: right and center on all the position groups, and we're 403 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna go over linebackers with him because I think that's 404 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: a sneaky option slash possibility for the Bills at the 405 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: bottom around one and if not later in the draft. 406 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: So we'll get his thoughts. I know there's one guy 407 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: in particular that he is very high on that's at 408 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: the top end of the draft at the linebacker position. 409 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: So we'll have Greg help cut up the pluses and 410 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: minuses some of the top linebacking prospects in this year's 411 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: draft when we talk to him in the third hour 412 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: of our show, probably about an hour and forty minutes 413 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: from now, and then in the final half hour of 414 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: the program. The latest edition of Tasker's Teammate. We went 415 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: on high Endus while I was on vacation, but it 416 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: is back with a vengeance, and we have a very 417 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: good one this week. Is We're pretty happy with the 418 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: ones we dig up each and every week, but I 419 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: like this one. It's a little juicy. So we'll put 420 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Steve to the test and see if he can jog 421 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: his memory on which former we are describing if we 422 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: were playing poker. I'm gonna give you my tell. You're 423 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: I can tell I kind of when Steve thinks he 424 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: has it, I mean think I got it figured out something. 425 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: I think once in a while, maybe not not every week, No, 426 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. Almost every week you tend 427 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: to get a guy whom I've got who has not 428 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: had been on before, of course, but also but I've 429 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: made a guess at like, I remind you that that 430 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: guy was my teammates, So you go waited a couple 431 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: of weeks that is not always the case, back and say, yeah, 432 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: that's a good idea. I'm gonna get him on this ship. 433 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I would say, I would say, 434 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: because what have we done about fifteen of these? No, 435 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: I got the list right here, you're hand in my hand, 436 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: twenty Maybe not about twenty of these six nine, twelve, fifteen, eighteen, 437 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty three. It's about five five, six, seven, eight, 438 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: twenty eight, twenty eight taskers team. That's if I actually 439 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: wrote them all down. Yeah, I'm confident you have. I 440 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: would say that's probably happened four times, not as often 441 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: as you know. Maybe I don't believe it's happened this time. 442 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I've never guessed this guy, I 443 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: don't think. So. I'm trying to remember if I remember 444 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: hearing this name, and I don't think. I don't think 445 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: you did. Maybe that maybe once, maybe one. I'm trying 446 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: to remember if I heard you utter this guy's name. 447 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I think it's possible. If I get him, 448 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: I'll get you. But believe you me, I did not 449 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: think about you saying that name when I picked this name. Okay, 450 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: So at least in this particular instance, interesting background there 451 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: that you're gonna find interesting, and you're gonna hear right 452 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: away in the in the first clue, So we'll see 453 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: if that's a giveaway. I don't believe it is. But 454 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: you never know what conversations went on in the locker 455 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: room when you two were teammates. So we'll have to 456 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: find out at two thirty, a little over two hours 457 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: from now. Always a fun exercise putting the screws to 458 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: Steve on one of his former teammates. So full show 459 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: for you, but we want you to be a part 460 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: of it. So if you haven't questions about the roster, 461 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, the draft, the prospects, the league at large, 462 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: the offseason conditioning program, and where it might end up, 463 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: Steve and I are here to answer those questions at 464 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: eight three five fifty one, eight five fifty two five 465 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: fifty or on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. 466 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: And we'll get to some of those questions after the 467 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: first break and they're among the other things. It looks 468 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: like there are other teams now, Steve that are joining this. Well, 469 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: most of us are, most of the guys on our 470 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: team are not going to be participating in the offseason 471 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: conditioning program, which is voluntary. We saw a handful of 472 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: teams come out in front and say that earlier this week. 473 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: There are more and more teams kind of trickling in 474 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: with the same statements coming out from the Players Association 475 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: on their behalf. We saw the Patriots say most of 476 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: us are not going to be doing it. We also 477 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: had I want to say, there was another team yesterday, 478 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: but it's slipping my mind as to who that was. 479 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: It was, Oh at it, what was the Patriots? But 480 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: it was the original group was Seahawks, broncos Um, and 481 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: there were a couple of others that the lines were 482 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, but uh, it looks like they're kind 483 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: of trickling out one at a time. Do you think. 484 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's done on purpose to try 485 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: to keep it in the news, like yeah, exactly. Hey, 486 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: here's a reminder we're not coming. Hey, here's a reminder, 487 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: here's another team that's not gonna put my tinfoil hat on. Yeah, 488 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: do you think the union saying, listen Friday, Friday, we're 489 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna announce these two teams. Monday will announce these two teams. 490 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: Tuesday will announce the ectue. But it doesn't matter. None 491 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: of you guys are shown up anyway. Yeah, so, so 492 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: I think we all know where that's going. That's going 493 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: to a mediation of some kind between the league and 494 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: the players Association. Exactly what that will look like. Um 495 00:28:54,520 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: so there and other than that, it's kind of gone wyat. 496 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: It's like everybody's going down in the draft bunker getting 497 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: ready for the draft. Now, yeah, exactly. They I mean 498 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: there might be a minor signing in here or there. 499 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: They're lying laying in food and water in the bunker 500 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna close the door and lock 501 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: it from the inside. Everybody's hunkering down. And I think 502 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: the best part about the Draft this year not only 503 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: the fact that it's live in Cleveland. As we discussed 504 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: with Charlie Yuk earlier in the week on the show, 505 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: who's the NFL Network Vice president of Production and is 506 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: running the NFL Network telecast on Draft weekend, it's the 507 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: fact that we have the draft rooms back again. I 508 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: love those live look ins. Man, when you're you got 509 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: a team on the clock and you go live to 510 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: see people milling around. I know a lot of times 511 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: it's a whole lot of nothing. And then after the 512 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: picks manage, you see everybody clapping in there, you know, 513 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: the good work. Everybody's high five. Let's let's pat each 514 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: other on the back. Are you've got a great job. Yeah, 515 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: But I still like just getting those peaks in to 516 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: the inner workings of the whole things. And it's cool. 517 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: It's interesting too. We talked to the you know, Charlie Yok, 518 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: who's in charge of everything and the production of this thing. Yeah, 519 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: and he said, as of now, they only got ten 520 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: guys in the green room. Don't think he's like twice 521 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: that many in a normal year. Yes, the numbers are down. Yeah, 522 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: and ten guys and now the top guy, Lawrence Trevor 523 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Lawrence be at home. He's like, you know, I'm out. 524 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm sticking around with my mom and dad. I kind 525 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: of liked the way it looked last year, and I 526 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of people I want to share it with, 527 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: and I can only bring like two people to the 528 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: green room. So thanks, I'll just stay in South Carolina 529 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: down here and I'll hang out. I just want to 530 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: hang out for the weekend. That's to me, That's that 531 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: is the way to go. Now, me, my, my, you know, 532 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: almost sixty year old self, who've already already done all 533 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: the draft thing and the that's me talking. I'm kind 534 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: of like, you know, I'd rather be at home if 535 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: I was a draft pick and could be there with 536 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: my grandkids. Yeah, that's what I would do if I 537 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: was a nineteen year old kid with you know, hang 538 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: out with a family. Yeah, but it's hard to talk 539 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, not going to the place with 540 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: a red carpet and being in that moment, get in 541 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: the first lay, you become a rich person. It's just great. 542 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: You know. As I said earlier in the week, I 543 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: think there's value too in you know, being in familiar 544 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: surroundings at home with your family members. Um. And I 545 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: think that was portrayed very well last year because with 546 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: the pandemic, there was no live setting and it was 547 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: just one after the other after the other. And you 548 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: see like families mobbing. These guys. You see guys like sobbing. 549 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: They're crying, they got their family members hugging them. I 550 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: think that carried value for a lot of the prospects 551 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: this year that said, you know what, I'm gonna stay 552 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: home and do that. I think, yeah, I think it's 553 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: really it was, And I'll tell you this too as 554 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: a viewer, like a million miles, it was that way better. 555 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to I like Roger. I mean, I'm laid. 556 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: Were acquainted with him, and I like Roger. I don't 557 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: want to see Roger. I want to see the kids fans. 558 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: I want to see because I remember for me, I 559 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: was by myself alone in a dorm room. Yeah, like 560 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: my friend, like I have friends around. I was literally 561 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: in solitude and you know, to be there with you know, oh, 562 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: I hadn't given anything to have my three older brothers, 563 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: my mom and dad because they would if they went crazy. 564 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: My brother, my three brothers through a party that I 565 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: wasn't at the whole thing. And I was like, I 566 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: was like number two twenty six overall, right, a little 567 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: bit of a right, like yeah, but it wasn't as 568 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: long as these day because it was all it happened 569 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: two days. Yeah, they kept going, they didn't stop. I don't. 570 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they ever stopped. They just round one 571 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: to three usually, well day one one to three, and 572 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: then the rest of it is day two. They were 573 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: I was a day twin pass round seven. Back then 574 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: it was yeah, I was a ninth and there were 575 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: two rounds after me. M so I get that I'd 576 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: have given anything for. But by the same token, if 577 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: they just told me I could go to New York, 578 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: because back then everything was in New York. Go to 579 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: New York, take take get care of you, stay in 580 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: the hotel. I might, Mom, Dad, I'll be back in 581 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: a week. I'll see you, right. But it was compelling 582 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: to watch last year, to see the background and the 583 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: people who were involved in that guy's life. Whoever. It 584 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: was just awesome, Yeah, really awesome. We have to step aside. 585 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: But when we come back from these messages coming up 586 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: for you, we will get to the tweetcheet to answer 587 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: some of you are more pressing questions. As we sit 588 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: thirteen days away from the twenty twenty one NFL draft, 589 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown back in a moment here on 590 00:33:48,560 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Back in to one of Bills Live, 591 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: Chris Round, Steve Casker here on an obl fan mailbag Friday, 592 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: and I want to lead off with Nick here his 593 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: question coming to us, if it's true that there's only 594 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: about twenty four true first round players in the draft, 595 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: players with first round grades, I guess he's getting at 596 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: shouldn't the Bills definitely trade back If we're only going 597 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: to get second round talent to pick thirty anyway, then 598 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: when she at least trade back so we can get 599 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: multiple second round players. So that stems from the conversation 600 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: Steve and I had yesterday when Daniel Jeremiah, in one 601 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: of his earlier reports said he only has first round 602 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: grades on twenty four players in this year's class, which 603 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: means he doesn't have enough players with first round grades 604 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: to fill out the first round. Now, could that be 605 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: the case for the Bills and several other NFL clubs. Absolutely, 606 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: it may not be the case. We don't know. If 607 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: it is the case, then yeah, I think you can 608 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: an argument for trading out of the thirtieth pick provided 609 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: all twenty four of those players with first round grades 610 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: on your board are off the board. Because if they're not, 611 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: because other teams have their boards graded differently. Take that well, 612 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: then you just sit there and take one of those 613 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: guys because he's a tremendous value at twenty at thirty 614 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: if you want your top twenty four players, and you 615 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: may not know until that's twenty ninth pick has made. 616 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: And and I'll say this as well, Yeah, you may 617 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: want to trade back. Great, you might want to a 618 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: team may there may not be a taker, or at 619 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: least not at a price that you make it worth it. 620 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: You don't want to trade back for a seventh rounder 621 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: as a throw in, because you could get that kid 622 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: you're drafting the seventh round. After the draft's over, you 623 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: could sign him for nothing without wasting the draft picks. 624 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: So when you get you know, you've got to get 625 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: a pick that's or two that makes it worth it 626 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: for you to trade out. If somebody wants to jump 627 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: up from like sixty four to thirty, well then you're 628 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: talking about something. Then they're gonna throw in three picks, 629 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: right you get you give them one, you get three back. 630 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: I might getting like that what am I getting? And 631 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: maybe there next year you know how much how much 632 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: you're willing to push that down the road for these teams. 633 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: All of that's on the table but it comes down 634 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: to the basic principle. Yeah, trade back if you can, 635 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: but not for nothing. It's it's gotta be worth it. Yeah. 636 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: And as as we spoke with Chad Ruder, NFL media 637 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: draft analyst yesterday on the show, he was saying, the 638 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: meat and potatoes of this draft is in rounds three 639 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: and four. So the Bills don't have a four this year. 640 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: They have two fives, but they don't have a four. 641 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: And so if you can move back from thirty to 642 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven somewhere 643 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: in there, and you can pick up a four, there's 644 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: pretty good value in that because especially if you're in 645 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: a situation Steve, where you have grades on players on 646 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: your board. Let's just say hypothetically, they have players with 647 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: grades that are like one point nine eight one point 648 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 1: nine nine, you know, almost a second round grade, and 649 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: they have about ten of those guys. You have ten 650 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: players that have bottom of the first top of the 651 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: second round grades. You're probably gonna be okay with going 652 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: from thirty to thirty six, right because you know you're 653 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: still gonna be able to get a player in that range. 654 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: Even if you move back six and it's not gonna 655 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: be it's gonna be something like that, back six slots 656 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: with another pick thrown in, because if you start moving 657 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: back more than that, it's gonna be more than two one. 658 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: If you go from thirty to like forty five, you're 659 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: gonna get at least two picks back. You may get 660 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: two picks or three picks back. I'm sorry, you get 661 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: the forty five back and you get two more after that. 662 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: Maybe one of those is next year, you know what 663 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Possible. So it all comes down to, and 664 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm all about it. The basic premises. You know, should 665 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: you trade down if there's not that many, if there's 666 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: no first rounders left answers, Yes, absolutely, But you don't 667 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: just do it. To do it, you've got to get 668 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: something worth it in return. And if you're gonna drop back, 669 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: the further you drop back, the more you get. So 670 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: you're not gonna you'll flip a second. You'll flip seconds 671 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: move up seven spots, and that'll be a compensation. You 672 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: probably won't be a fourth. I actually might be a fourth, 673 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: might be a fifth or sixth, depending on the value 674 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: of those picks. Yeah, we should mention tweet sheet brought 675 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving 676 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. Jeremy on the tweet sheet says, 677 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 1: love the show and love hearing Bill's talk. You're gonna 678 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: get Maddie back on to hear or say the words 679 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: like Chautauqua, salamanca and kataba. That was a funny segment 680 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: last week. Was she having trouble with some of the 681 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: India she had or heard the word salamanca. What did 682 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: she say? I don't know how else a couple of things. 683 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: So I had to walk her through that. And then 684 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, like even cheeked waga ktaba scjaquita, scajaquita. That's 685 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: another one thing about it. So her being from Chicago, 686 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: she that's a tough want grown up hearing people say that, 687 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: and she was like sah, she did. She could not 688 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: get salomanca out at the very beginning. So I do 689 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: remember walk through it. I do remember working in the 690 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 1: news department at w GR when they were news radio, 691 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 1: and we had a young reporter come in and there 692 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: was an accident on the Skajaquita and so we we 693 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: send the reporter out to the scene, and I mean, 694 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: I felt bad. She had only been working there two weeks, 695 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: and so she's doing a live report from this scene 696 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: scatch Aqueda SCA. She learned quickly. Oh, yeah, it's tough. 697 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of Native American terms here 698 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: in Western New York. Ten. Yeah, it's tough. I mean 699 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you get caught. It's I mean, it's just you're 700 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: getting used to it. It's not a big deal. So 701 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: so listen, if you want to move out of thirty 702 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: on the draft chart, that's worth like six hundred and 703 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: twenty value points, right, you get down to anything past forty, 704 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: and you drop one hundred and twenty, It's like the 705 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: fortieth pick is five hundred points down. That's so that's 706 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: down ten spots from your thirtieth pick, which is six twenty. 707 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: It goes six twenty to five hundred. That's one hundred 708 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 1: and twenty points. So the next thing, the next draft 709 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: pick that's worth one hundred and twenty points to late four, 710 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: isn't it the last pick of the third oh four 711 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: of the third round, last pick of the third so 712 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: you're back in the fourth round. If that's that's if 713 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: it's exactly right from from you're going from thirty to forty. 714 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: That pick hold on now thirty to four. Yeah, that pick, 715 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: you'd cost you one hundred and twenty points. And that's 716 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: an exact you'd go from thirty to forty and you 717 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: would get the last pick of the third round, which 718 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: is yeah. So there you go. Yeah, we're gonna step 719 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: aside here, but when we come back, we've got an 720 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: interesting fan mailbag question about defending tight ends. It's been 721 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: a thorn in the side of Buffalo's defense the last 722 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: couple of years and most recently in the AFC title game. 723 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: What can be done there? That is the next question 724 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: on the table, and we will get to it when 725 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: we come back here on One Bill's Live, presented by 726 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: Kaloid of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to 727 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Obl fan mailbag is open, and we're 728 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: gonna get right to this question from Ehorst. I just 729 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: read the names they are put in front of me. 730 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: After seeing tight ends have a fairly easy time against 731 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 1: us last season, I would hope we can draft an 732 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: athletic player to take care of that. Would that be 733 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: a corner to play across from White or a linebacker 734 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: to play opposite Milano go Bills. I think it depends 735 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: on the matchup. Yeah, it could be. It could be 736 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: both at times, and it probably will be both at times. 737 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: The corner, apart from a side, the corner opposite Tredevious, 738 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: probably not going to be on a tight end too 739 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: often unless the offense puts the guy out to the 740 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: boundary and the Bills aren't on a don't have a 741 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: switch call, so that may happen once in a while, 742 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: But a corner like a Tredavious White type corner, Levi 743 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: Wallace type corner, they won't get matched up on a 744 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: tight end very often. You're right, though, an athlete like 745 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: Milano a linebacker to have as a third linebacker, instead 746 00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: of putting a guy like Taron Johnson, No, No, the 747 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: linebacker from last year, Tyrell Dodson, No, the guy who 748 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: replaced aj Clin, thank you, instead of putting out there right. Finally, 749 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: my mind's a steel trap. So instead of putting a 750 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: guy like a J. Klein out there, you put a 751 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: guy like Matt Milano, more like at Matt Milano, or 752 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: or a hybrid guy who can run with the tight 753 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: end and has some coverage skills. So that's the that's 754 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: what you're talking about. And there's no question they're gonna 755 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: find somebody to play opposite Tredavious White if indeed it's 756 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: not Levi Wallace again, well yeah, I kind of look, 757 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: don't you look at that position, like, Levi Wallace is 758 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: the floor right starting at cornerback number two, that's your floor. 759 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,959 Speaker 1: He's your given. Yeah, that's your floor, and you're gonna 760 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: see if you can do better. Now they've been looking 761 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: for to do better. I was on a podcast a 762 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: month ago. I said, listen, that's fine, you can find 763 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: you don't like Levi Wallace all that, but until you 764 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: get somebody better. Yeah, just you know, take Levi Wallison. 765 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: Be happy because it's hard to replace that guy. Because 766 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: he plays so well. You can say what you wanted, 767 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: he's not. He's not. Fine. You get somebody better. Because 768 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: they've tried everything. They drafted guys not high, but they 769 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: put draft picks in there. They put high, high dollar 770 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: free agents in there one year, guys who were really motivated, 771 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: former great players, former high draft picks. They put a 772 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: ton of guys over there to try and take his job, 773 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: and nobody can get it done. Yeah, So I'm I'm 774 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: I was really happy when they resigned him, because, like 775 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: you said, you know what you got. And he was 776 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: also the same corner He was the same guy that 777 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: they had out there when they were the number one, 778 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: number two defense in the NFL. It's the same guy 779 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: they had out there last year when they took a 780 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: step back from that ranking. So and if you're gonna 781 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: say he's the difference, you're gonna have to convince me 782 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: of that, because I don't believe he was. Um. So, yeah, 783 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: the second number two cornerback has been issue because you 784 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 1: got such a great guy on the other side, and 785 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: Levi was a free agent coming into this year. You thought, well, 786 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: we gotta get somebody. Dane Jackson, who is you know, 787 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: your flavor of the month. I get it. The guy 788 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: can play and he's he's got a lot going for him. 789 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: If the guy, if he was two inches taller than 790 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: fifteen pounds heavier, he would have been a number seven pick, 791 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,479 Speaker 1: not a seventh round pick. Well, hopefully he's at least 792 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: stronger this year, getting the benefit of an NFL offseason 793 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: conditioning program regimen. Provided he's doing the right things on 794 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 1: his own right now, and there's no indication to think 795 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 1: that he wouldn't. I'm just fascinated by how they get 796 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: an answer at that position in terms of covering the 797 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: tight ends, Like is it do they try to look 798 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: for somebody who's a linebackers, safety tweener, right, you know, 799 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: a body type like that that has experience in coverage. 800 00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's some big outside corner that you 801 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: worry about him keeping up catchup speed, that kind of 802 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: stuff on the outside at the NFL level, But you 803 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: move him inside and you play him in the slot 804 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: as a hybrid kind of guy that you know can 805 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: hold up against the run because he's got the size 806 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: and it has enough coverage experience where you're not you're 807 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: not at a disadvantage in a coverage. He stands next 808 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: to the coach until they go two tight ends, then 809 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: he's on the field, right or which you know you're 810 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna see with New England, right, if they go two wides, 811 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: two tights, he's on the field. If they go one wide, 812 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: two tights, two backs, he's on the field. You know 813 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,479 Speaker 1: all that kind of all those kind of personal personations. Um, yeah, 814 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,879 Speaker 1: twelve personnel, twenty two personnel, he's on the field, And 815 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: you know that's he stands there ready for that. That's 816 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: his package and and other you know, assorted matchup problems 817 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: that other teams will have along the way on an 818 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: individual basis. And yeah, I think that's what you're you're 819 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: talking about, not a corner, but you're talking about a 820 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: Matt Milano. Maybe not a guy's big as Matt Milano, 821 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: but a better athlete, maybe a guy played strong safety 822 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: in college. That's why I like that kid from Appalachian 823 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: State last year, Keem Davis Gaither, who went very high 824 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: in the fourth round on Day three last year. He 825 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: was like a two hundred and twenty five pound linebacker 826 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: at app State, real athletic kid, ran like a deer. 827 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: And I was thinking, you know, this is kind of 828 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: one of those guys that they could play in a 829 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: hybrid sense. And in round four, you can afford to 830 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: take a sub package player, right and you know, knowing 831 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: how much the Bills play Nickel, I was like, may 832 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: not even be a sub package player, depending on how 833 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 1: you want to deploy your people, right. So I find 834 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 1: that interesting. And I wonder if they looked hard and 835 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: fast for that, not necessarily at the top of the draft, 836 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: but come late Day two, early day three, Is that 837 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: a guy that they're trying to find. I really, I 838 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: really wonder about that. We'll say this though, before we go. Yeah, 839 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: we're up against the break. You. You can't have too 840 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: many good coverage guys. You cannot have too many good 841 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: coverage guys. And I don't want to get away from that. 842 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: And as much as I love the big guys up 843 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: front and they can dominate a game. And we saw 844 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: how important it was in the super Bowl when your 845 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 1: offensive line or the other team is decimated, you got 846 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,439 Speaker 1: to be able to take advantage of it. But I'm 847 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: telling you this, give me coverage corners in this draft. 848 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: When in doubt, take a corner and you'll be fine. 849 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: I think break time for us. But when we come back. 850 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: It's The Bill's newest edition at the guard position. It 851 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: is Forrest lamp Buffalo's newest free agent signing for the 852 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: offensive line. He joins us next here on One Bill's Live, 853 00:48:37,840 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. A 854 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all over the field, kind 855 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player 856 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: for you. Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even in 857 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: the strategyre of normalcy. He welcome to our number two 858 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: of a Friday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, 859 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and please to be joined on 860 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: the line at this time by the newest man in 861 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: the Bill's offensive line room signing on the dotted line 862 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: recently one year contract. It is one Forest Lamp joining 863 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: us on the phone, and Forest, how you doing h 864 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: Here is your unofficial welcome to Buffalo. I'm sure you'll 865 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: get a more formal one from the team itself if 866 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: you haven't already. But glad you're on the roster and 867 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. Congratulations, Thank you so much. I appreciate 868 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,439 Speaker 1: you guys having me. So I have to start here 869 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: forrest because you know, just looking into your background a 870 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: little bit, Venice, Florida is where you played your high school, Paul. 871 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: How does a guy from Venice, Florida end up at 872 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: Western Kentucky. So it's funny. Everybody always asked me that, 873 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, originally I wanted to stay in Florida, and 874 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: I had some offers from similar schools like WKU. You know, 875 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: I had F A u F, I U had UCF 876 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 1: and USF really really late and I had Miami for 877 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: a little bit and I had somebody to commit, and 878 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: so they didn't have a spot for me anymore. And 879 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: long story short is the head coach there was Willie 880 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: Taggart and he went to Manatee High School, which is 881 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: one of probably Venice's biggest rival. And you know, he 882 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: kept calling me and calling me and just telling me, 883 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, you need to come up here. And he 884 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: was from Manatee. He went to Western Kentucky, was an 885 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: All American, his jerseys retired there and he just told me, 886 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I understand why you want to 887 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: stay in Florida, and YadA YadA, but just come, just 888 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: come visit and if you like it, you like it. 889 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: If you don't, at least you can say you tried 890 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: for me. And like I said, the short story is, 891 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: I went up there and fell in love with it. 892 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: It was brand new. They just went to U D 893 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: one from D one double A and everything was brand new. 894 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: It was beautiful and Coach Tiger was a good coach 895 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: and he talked me into it and it was the 896 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: best decision in my life. I'm really happy I went there. 897 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 1: So you came out of Western Kentucky played for the 898 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: Hilltoppers for you know, had a nice career there. You 899 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: came out, you were considering one of the top offensive 900 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman coming out. You've played in LA, well, 901 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: San Diego in LA for for five years. Give us 902 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: a little insight into your experience there with the Chargers. 903 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: It was a great experience, you know, because I'm extremely 904 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 1: thankful for Tom and coach Winn at the time for 905 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: drafting me and you know, changing my life. It's every 906 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: football player's room to play in the NFL, so I 907 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: can't be can't be any more thankful to them. And 908 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: it was a great time. You know. We started out 909 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: in San Diego and we were there from April until 910 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: camp started, and then once camp started, we moved up 911 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 1: to LA and they made the transition as easy as possible. 912 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: Obviously it's not easy moving an entire football team, but 913 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 1: it was great, some great friends, and you know, I 914 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 1: was injured quite a bit my first three years, and 915 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: my last year was first year finally healthy. But I 916 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: loved it. It was amazing and I was glad I 917 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: was able to experience it. How'd you navigate those first 918 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: couple of years far us, because you know, a new 919 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: guy in the door. You know, you want to prove 920 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: yourself to your teammates and your coaches, and when injuries 921 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: getting the way, I mean, man, that can be frustrating. 922 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: So how did you kind of stay mentally tough through 923 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: those setbacks? Yeah, you know, it's extremely frustrating, and you 924 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 1: ask any athletes that's been hurt, it's it definitely plays 925 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: with your mind a little bit. And for me, it 926 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: was just relying on my faith, you know, my Christian 927 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: and rely on my faith a lot, and my fiance Tasha, 928 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: and then probably one of the more important things is 929 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: my teammates. Like you said, I was a rookie there 930 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: when I first got hurt, and we had only been 931 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: in camp for less than a week, and some of 932 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: the older guys who are you know, kind of some 933 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: of the more famous guys like Antonio Gates and Melvin 934 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: Ingram and you know, of the more higher profile players 935 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 1: Philip and you know, as soon as I got hurt, 936 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: those guys all came up to me and told me, hey, 937 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 1: we've been you know, Phillips had an ACL, Melvin's had 938 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: a ACL. I'm sure Antonio has been hurt up somewhere 939 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: along the line. But they just all came up to 940 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: me and you know, encouraged me and told me, you know, 941 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: they've been hurt before, they've been there, and you know 942 00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: you're able to come back. It takes some time, but 943 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: you'll be fine. And you know, for my teammates who 944 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: had only known me for maybe a month or two 945 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: and didn't really know me personally yet, to take the 946 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: time out of their day to come and make sure 947 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: I was okay, especially the higher you know profile guys, 948 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: meant a lot to me because they didn't have to 949 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: do that, you know. Yeah, And what did it mean 950 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: to you personally as well? Now in this last year 951 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, to play every single solitary offensive snap for 952 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: the offensive rookie of the year, that had to be 953 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: feel really good when it was all said and done. 954 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: I know the season didn't end like you wanted it to. 955 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: You guys didn't make the playoffs that kind of thing. 956 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: But to put a personally put a season like that 957 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 1: together in front of a quarterback who did that, it 958 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: had to mean a lot to you personally. It did. Yeah, 959 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,839 Speaker 1: it meant a ton. You know, Herbie's a great guy 960 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: and same as Philip Rivers, you know, I've been lucky 961 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: to play under you know, great quarterbacks, and you know 962 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: you want to do your best for those guys, So 963 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: when you're out on the field, you're gonna try to 964 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: do your best. But like you said, for me, personally, 965 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: it was it was a great feeling to know that 966 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: I was able to come back after three years of 967 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: being injured, having three surgeries in three years, and you know, 968 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: the doubt does start to come in at times, and uh, 969 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: it's it's frustrating to say the least. So for me, 970 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: it was reassuring and meant a lot to me. Talking 971 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 1: to Bill's offensive lineman, Forrest lamp on the line and Freest. 972 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, you know you're gonna be playing for 973 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 1: a pretty dark and good one here, Josh Allen. I know, 974 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: I know he likes reaching out to teammates, especially new ones. 975 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: Have you heard from him he had via text your 976 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: phone call yet? I have not heard from him yet, 977 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: but I was literally just in Buffalo yesterday signing so 978 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: got you stuff. But what are you What are your 979 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: thoughts about him? Because I know he and Herbert share 980 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: a lot of similar physical traits. Uh, I don't know 981 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: if it's gonna look all that different with Josh Allen 982 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,399 Speaker 1: throwing behind you. No, I know for sure. Yeah, they're 983 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,879 Speaker 1: very similar. They're both great quarterbacks. You know, we played 984 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: the build last year and you know, Josh played fairly well, 985 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: and obviously, like you said, we didn't make the playoffs, 986 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: so we were able to watch some of the playoff 987 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 1: games and uh, you know, he's a great quarterback. I 988 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 1: look forward to blocking for him. I was gonna say, Uh, 989 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: I know Steve was interested in this. When you guys 990 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: came in here last year to play the Bills. We're curious, 991 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: like what was kind of the general scouting report on them, 992 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: Like what were your you know, what were you hearing 993 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: from your coaches that week as you got ready for 994 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: that game. We're just kind of curious to kind of 995 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: see it from the other side. Oh, you guys are 996 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: making me dig into Uh well, you don't have to 997 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: give anyway any state secrets, but in general, what in general, 998 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,919 Speaker 1: what was the general No, No, there was no, no, 999 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: no secrets at all. I'm just saying, you know, each 1000 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny as you're playing the season and 1001 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: you're scouting a team, you know, as soon as you're 1002 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: done with that game, you move on to the next one. 1003 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: You're making me digg into some files in my brain 1004 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 1: back here. But overall, obviously they're a great team. You know, 1005 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: they have a ton of offensive weapons. And I wasn't 1006 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: in the defensive meeting rooms, but from the offensive standpoint, 1007 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 1: their defense was great. And you know, they have great 1008 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: players like you know, Oliver and some of the other 1009 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: defensive linemen who have been there for a really, really 1010 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: long time and played a long time. And they're good team. 1011 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: And then offensively, obviously, it doesn't mean it doesn't much 1012 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 1: need to be said about that. They Like I said, 1013 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't in the defensive meeting room, but you know, 1014 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: we would always have an offense there, I mean a 1015 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: team meeting, and Coach Lynn would kind of go over, 1016 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, just the overall aspects of the offense in 1017 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: the defense, and he was not he wasn't playing around 1018 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: with our defense when he told him their offense was extraordinary. 1019 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: You know, they have a ton of weapons with Diggs 1020 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: and Josh, and they're hard to stop. Give us a 1021 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: little insight as to when the conversation goes. So how 1022 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: when it started with the Bills, who you spoke to 1023 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,439 Speaker 1: on the phone, I know your agent probably took care 1024 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: of a lot of the conversation, but when did you 1025 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: first have personal contact with anybody in the Bills organization 1026 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: and how that conversation go. Yeah, so your agent mainly 1027 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: handles all of that leading up the free agency, and 1028 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: then after free agency, we had three or four teams 1029 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: that we were going back and forth between, and you know, 1030 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: the Bills just seem like the right fits and they're 1031 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: a winning team, a playoff team, and you know that's 1032 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: every that's every player's dream is to uh, you know, 1033 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. Every guy can say that he 1034 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: wants to do. You know, the receiver can say I 1035 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: want to catch a thousand you know balls and this 1036 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: and that, but at the end of the day, every 1037 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: player wants to win a Super Bowl, and uh, I 1038 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: think the Bills are really close to doing that. So 1039 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: the first time I ever had contact with any of 1040 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: the coaches is you know, once we kind of got 1041 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: the deal done. That's kind of how it goes. Your 1042 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: agent mainly handles everything up until you know, you kind 1043 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: of agree on whatnot. And then yeah, as soon as 1044 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: we agreed on everything, Um, you know, coach McDermott called 1045 00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: me the O line coach. Coach Johnson called me everybody 1046 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: you know dabbled, So I've kind of talked to everybody 1047 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: offensively other than the you know, the defensive social teams coaches, 1048 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: right and then Forrest. I know, I'm not telling you 1049 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: anything you don't know already playing in this league, but 1050 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: just coming in here to compete for a starting role, 1051 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, with some entrenched guys in some of the 1052 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 1: guard positions already. I'm just curious as to your outlook 1053 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: on that. Maybe it's no different from any other competition 1054 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: you've ever been a part of at any level of football. 1055 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 1: But you're you're coming, You're coming to a new landing spot, 1056 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: I guess, so it's a little bit different from your 1057 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: prior experience in the NFL where you had become accustomed 1058 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: to your surroundings with the Chargers. Now it's a new venue. 1059 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: How do you kind of look at that whole thing, 1060 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, jumping into that competition to try to get 1061 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: a starting job. Well, like you said, you don't look 1062 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: at it anything differently. It's um, you know, it's the 1063 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: same from Pop Warner to high school to college to 1064 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, my last couple years are the Chargers every 1065 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: every training camp as a competition, and like you said, 1066 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: another some guys there that have started a lot of 1067 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: games and are kind of entrenched in, uh, you know, 1068 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: the offense, and they've been here a lot longer than me. 1069 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: But I'm just looking to help out anyway I can. 1070 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: Whether you know, Coach Johnson's gonna have to make that 1071 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: final decision on who starts who doesn't start, but you know, 1072 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: whether I'm a starter or a backup, whatever the case 1073 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: may be. Like I said, I'm just here to help 1074 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: and you know, try to get us to our overall goal, 1075 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: which is wont to Super Bowl. You you went through 1076 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: this last season like everybody, all of us did, knowing 1077 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: and realized living through what was a really strange year. 1078 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: You played all these games with no fans in the stands. 1079 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: You've been through some really weird crowd experiences because you 1080 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 1: did play for the San Diego Chargers in LA where 1081 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: they were playing in the soccer stadium and there in 1082 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 1: the crowds were predominantly away crowds. You played in this 1083 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty when there was no fans anywhere 1084 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: until later in the season. What are your thoughts about 1085 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: getting back into this season where you got a chance 1086 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: to play not only in front of full stadiums, but 1087 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: in a place like Buffalo, who's known for having a 1088 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: really passionate crowd. I'm excited to say the least. But yeah, 1089 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,479 Speaker 1: we have played in some weird situations, like you said, 1090 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 1: and in California, you know, playing that stuff Hub, it 1091 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: was it was small, and like you said, a lot 1092 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: of the ticket prices were extremely high, which you know, 1093 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: turned away a lot of our fans, and so there's 1094 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: predominantly away fans, which is it stinks because you've never 1095 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: feel like you have a home game. But the stadium 1096 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: itself is really cool. You know, not many times you 1097 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,720 Speaker 1: get to play on a soccer stadium. And the fans 1098 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: they felt like they were really close to the you know, 1099 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: to the field, like they were almost right on top 1100 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: of you. So, like I said, you can look at 1101 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: all the negatives, but there are worth some positive about 1102 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: playing there, and it was it was a neat experience. 1103 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: And then last year playing with no fans, it was 1104 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: really weird because you know, each state was different. So 1105 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: like when we played Miami they had some fans, and 1106 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: we played Kansas City they had fans, but other places 1107 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: where they had no fans. It was almost like you 1108 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 1: were at a practice and we always joke around, you know, 1109 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: we love the fans being there and whatnot, But on 1110 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball for away game, it 1111 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 1: was nice not having fans because we never had to 1112 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: worry about a silent cadence or code words or anything 1113 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: like that, because anytime Justin needed to change anything, we 1114 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,919 Speaker 1: could always hear him because there was no fans there. 1115 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: Last one for me, Forrest, We've the Bills have never 1116 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 1: been part of the Hard Knocks series, and I know 1117 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers and their apps were part of it last year. 1118 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: What was it like to kind of have a camera 1119 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 1: crew virtually embedded with you guys at training camp? Was 1120 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: it was it noticeable every single day with all the 1121 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: access that they had, or did it just kind of 1122 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 1: become something that after a short period of time you 1123 01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: just didn't notice anymore, you know. I've I've heard different things. 1124 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,040 Speaker 1: You know, we had Hard Knocks during COVID, so therefore 1125 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: they didn't have as much from what I've heard, I 1126 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: don't know if this is true or not. They didn't 1127 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: have as much access as they normally do, so they 1128 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: are it really wasn't that noticeable, to be honest with you. 1129 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 1: You know, you could see him at practice and filming 1130 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: practices and things like that, but in the meeting rooms 1131 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 1: they just set up a camera up in the you know, 1132 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 1: corner of the meeting room. We never really saw anybody 1133 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: in the hotel. So for us, it really wasn't that noticeable. 1134 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: But I've heard from other teammates that have been on 1135 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: or other friends that have been on hard knocks with 1136 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: other teams, that it's usually a little bit more noticeable. 1137 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: But with COVID, they weren't able to do everything that 1138 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: they used to do. Well, for one last thing for me, 1139 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: how do I purchase a forest lamp? You know, It's 1140 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,280 Speaker 1: funny is when you when we first got on here 1141 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, so, I gotta start with this. I 1142 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 1: thought that's what you were going to ask about everybody 1143 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: always we're gonna let you get away. Well you gotta 1144 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: do is go to lamps plus dot com and uh 1145 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and search for US lamp or I think 1146 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: you can search Sekoia lamp and it'll come up. You 1147 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: can buying right off their website. Ye. Well, Sekoia is 1148 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: a very California esque lamp. We're gonna have to come 1149 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: up with some kind of buffalo lamp. We're gonna have 1150 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: to figure out a design element for that and get 1151 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 1: in touch with your people at Lamps Plus for that 1152 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: to see what they can do for us. Get a 1153 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: buffalo style lamp for you this year, no doubt. Well, 1154 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 1: we do something every year, so I'm sure as long 1155 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: as everything goes as playing well, we'll come out with 1156 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 1: something good enough. Well, thanks for as for giving us 1157 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 1: some time today. We appreciate it. Congrats again and we 1158 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you out there on the field 1159 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 1: later this year. Thank you guys so much for having me. 1160 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You have a good one, all right. 1161 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: That's Forest Lamp, Buffalo's newest offensive lineman joining us here 1162 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: on one Bills Live. And he's when when you listen, 1163 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: can't you just hear when you talk to a new 1164 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,520 Speaker 1: player coming in the door for the Bills, and like 1165 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: if you close your eyes and you just kind of 1166 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: listen to them articulate, you know what foot ball means 1167 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: to them, the opportunity they feel they have here. Like 1168 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm always thinking in my head. Bills, DNA bills, DNA bills, 1169 01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: DNA you can just hear it and these players because 1170 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: now we know what it is for this front office 1171 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: in terms of what they look for, and when we 1172 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: get one of these guys on the air, it's just like, yep, 1173 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,439 Speaker 1: that's the Bills DNA right there. Looking at what he's 1174 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,479 Speaker 1: been through, we went through a list of the things 1175 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: that he's done since he's been in the in the league. 1176 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 1: Certainly he had some injury probably three He had broke 1177 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: his leg and then two knee surgeries as well during 1178 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 1: his career, and right out of the gate too. Have 1179 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: you seen it? First week of training camp, so that 1180 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: that stinks. He was playing in sand in LA with 1181 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, a Hall of Fame quarterback, in a soccer stadium, 1182 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 1: very intimates of the team transition. He goes to camp 1183 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 1: in LA for the first time, they open that thing 1184 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 1: up in La and then this last year finally gets 1185 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: on the field as a real starter. He was on 1186 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: hard knocks in a COVID pandemic season. I mean this 1187 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: one thing after it you talk about a five year 1188 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 1: stretch of being going through not all obviously none of 1189 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 1: it is his own doing, except for the fact that 1190 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: he's playing football victim of circumstance. Yeah, there's a guy 1191 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 1: with some miles on his odometer that really forget about 1192 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 1: the physical nature of it, just what he's experienced being 1193 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: on hard knocks, changing teams. Now, he's been a free agent, 1194 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,439 Speaker 1: he was a draft pick, he's been injured, and he's 1195 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: also been kind of a foundational player who played on 1196 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 1: every single solitary offensive snap last year, played with a 1197 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback who is Offensive Rookie of the Year, and 1198 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: he played with a Hall of Fame guy who'd been 1199 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: there since. He was lucky because I just got dropped 1200 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: into a situation here where he's playing with another Predamn, 1201 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 1: that's a guy who's you talk about a guy who's 1202 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 1: got some water under the bridge at a young age. 1203 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,480 Speaker 1: Forrest Lamp fits the Bill, and I think the Bills 1204 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: probably see it this way to a certain extent. You 1205 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: can make the argument that after playing one hundred percent 1206 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: of the snaps last year, that his career is finally 1207 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: on an upward trajectory for the first time. Chance. Yeah, 1208 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 1: ever enters his fifth NFL season and get a chance 1209 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: to fulfill his second round status and play like the 1210 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: player he thought he could play when he was a younger. 1211 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I mean at that Senior Bowl in 1212 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, he stood out like he stood out, he 1213 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 1: was very evident. It was evident to me that he 1214 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,040 Speaker 1: was probably one of the three best offensive linemen at 1215 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and then proved to be one of 1216 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the first guards to come off the board in the 1217 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen NFL Draft. Six he's got his hands or 1218 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: ten and three eights or something like that, ten and five, 1219 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 1: eight and five. I was gonna ask him about that. 1220 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: I forgot I wow, because because you know, that's like 1221 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: frying pans for hands. Yeah, like it's big. And I 1222 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 1: because Josh has got ten in chance. You go online 1223 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: and you look at all the stats and they and 1224 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 1: they all occasionally all the websites, they go, yeah, they 1225 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: measure their hands, And I was like, wow, what's that number? 1226 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,439 Speaker 1: Ten and five eights. That's big, that's yeah. And he's 1227 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: a big dude, and you expect most guys. And I've 1228 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: I've shaken hands with guys who have ridiculously huge hand 1229 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Those meat hooks, yeah, those are yeah, Like Drew Bledsoe 1230 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 1: had some big snake hands, you know, I mean, just 1231 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 1: like say snake it's like the snake wraps around your 1232 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: entire hand. That's thoughts he was when he shook my hand, 1233 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 1: it was like he was shaking a dow rod, you know, 1234 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just right. Yeah, it was guys 1235 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 1: like that. I don't know. It's funny because I had 1236 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,880 Speaker 1: no clue about that until I started being around pro football. 1237 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 1: When I was at Northwestern. Scouts would come down and 1238 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: major you know, they say hold your hand out, handout, 1239 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: and I you know, they yeah, okay, thank you, yep, wingspan. Yeah, 1240 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing, all of that. They get everything. We do. 1241 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Want to get back to the phones because we got 1242 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: some people patiently waiting there with some ob L fan 1243 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 1: mail bag questions. Justin and Elmira is going to lead 1244 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 1: us off, Justin, what do you have for us? You're 1245 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Hey, just what a segment by 1246 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: that guy. I'm excited to see what Forrest springs to 1247 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: the team this year. I've heard of him and know 1248 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about him, and I'm really excited that 1249 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: he's a part of the organization. Sounds like a sounds 1250 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: like a custom fit guy just listening to him. So 1251 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 1: great segment, gentlemen. Um As a Penn State fan. Uh. 1252 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,679 Speaker 1: In my in my ideal world, if I was stranding 1253 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:31,919 Speaker 1: being for a day during the draft, I would hopefully 1254 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 1: be able to come up with some kind of package 1255 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 1: to go up and get Michael Parsons. I think he 1256 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: would be you know, not to supplant anybody, but as 1257 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: an option to you know, cover the likes of Hunter Henry, 1258 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 1: John hu Smith and hopefully Travis Kelsey. Uh, you know, 1259 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 1: sometime in January should we play the Chiefs again, I 1260 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 1: think it's going to be critically important to uh, just 1261 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,080 Speaker 1: to find a guy that can cover the tight end. 1262 01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,600 Speaker 1: If there's a cornerback that can do it, you know, 1263 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 1: obviously look at him. But in a perfect world, I'd 1264 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 1: snatch up a linebacker if I could. Yeah, I w 1265 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 1: While I love your dream scenario, justin I think it's 1266 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 1: going to be very ambitious and cost an awful lot 1267 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: in the forum, probably of high future draft picks to 1268 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 1: get up from thirty to where you're gonna need to 1269 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: to get Parsons because that kid's coming off the board 1270 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,320 Speaker 1: in the top twelve or fourteen picks I think, right 1271 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: he's been mocked at ten to the Cowboys a bunch, 1272 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:32,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's almost an impossibility. But go ahead, Oh yeah, 1273 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: So what do you guys think? So, because we have 1274 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,000 Speaker 1: a few picks this year, would it be you know, 1275 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 1: now being a serious GM, would we want would it 1276 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 1: be feasible to kind of look at this draft as 1277 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 1: a draft or we're not gonna there's not gonna be 1278 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 1: room for six guys on the roster. We're gonna be 1279 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: lucky if we get three of them to stay on 1280 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 1: the roster that did actually make the roster this year. 1281 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 1: So would this be the year that if we were 1282 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 1: going to do something bold or something like that? Do 1283 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 1: you think that that's possible? And then, Steve, I have 1284 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: one more thing for you after this rule. Well, here's 1285 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 1: the thing, and I get it. Everybody knows the story 1286 01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,640 Speaker 1: about Mike Ditka trading his hire draft class for a 1287 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: chance to draft Ricky Williams. The simple fact of the 1288 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 1: matter is, if if you want to get one guy 1289 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 1: in this draft, and you want to jump up ten 1290 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: spots to do it, I'll give an example. If you 1291 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: want to jump up ten or twelve spots to get 1292 01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: that guy, you have to give up six all six 1293 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 1: of your other draft picks in order to do it. 1294 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: And that gets you from thirty to maybe twenty. That 1295 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,519 Speaker 1: moves up ten spots in the first round. All those 1296 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 1: other draft picks on the value chart add up to you, 1297 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 1: and you'd have to get somebody to take it. I 1298 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody would right those that so that 1299 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,639 Speaker 1: you're giving up your entire draft class for a guy 1300 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna pick it like twenty or eighteen or twenty 1301 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 1: two were in there. I can't do that right exactly? 1302 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 1: Do that? Hey in clothes and Steve Um. It was 1303 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 1: a week ago. I don't want to take up too 1304 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: much time, but it was a week ago. You and 1305 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 1: Maddie were doing out one of One Bill's Live. I 1306 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: think Chris was playing Hookie or something, but you guys 1307 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:23,600 Speaker 1: were discussing road games and Maddie had some experiences. She 1308 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 1: was sharing about being at Bristol for the Virginia Tech 1309 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Kindnessee game and then you guys seeing Bills fans on 1310 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 1: the road and how you wish that there was something 1311 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,360 Speaker 1: like that. We actually do an organized trip every year 1312 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 1: except for last year, and it started the year that 1313 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan was in Buffalo. We went to We took 1314 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: busses out to the Meadowlands. First year, the Color Rush jerseys, 1315 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: you know, to go and support Rex and his return 1316 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 1: to New York trip every year has grown. It's now 1317 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,639 Speaker 1: into the hundreds and there's a Facebook page called Bill's 1318 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 1: Trips and I don't know, don't want to advertise or anything. 1319 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 1: Gryce wanted to bring some awareness to you that, oh, listen, 1320 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 1: I know they've been people. You've been able to get 1321 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,200 Speaker 1: a trip to road games as groups. That's been going 1322 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 1: on for a long time. And I get I get 1323 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,320 Speaker 1: the fact you've got one and out starting to grow 1324 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 1: and everybody's kind of jumping on board. I like the idea, 1325 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: and you're right, there's a lot of that that happens. 1326 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: And Maddie and I were talking about and Brownie I 1327 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 1: got into this and I think this is what Justin's 1328 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: alluding to. I said, it wouldn't it be cool or 1329 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 1: smart for both leagues and for the cities to set 1330 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 1: up the NHL NFL schedules that overlap and the seasons, 1331 01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,559 Speaker 1: like early or late games November and December games for 1332 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 1: the hockey when it starts, and I guess it, what 1333 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: starts in October the same weekend? Right? Well, yeah, so 1334 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 1: the Bills go down to homes. The Bills go down 1335 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:57,599 Speaker 1: to play the Rangers of the Islanders Titans, and the 1336 01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,840 Speaker 1: Sabers play the Predators Saturday night. The Bills play the 1337 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 1: type on Sunday. That kind of thing. You can do 1338 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: it in New York, Chicago, Tennessee, Carolina. You know, you 1339 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,639 Speaker 1: go down the list, Chicago, Detroit, all of those teams 1340 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,560 Speaker 1: with Boston, all of those teams with a hockey and 1341 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 1: a football team, and there's a ton of them, La, 1342 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, Tampa, you go down the list. So wouldn't 1343 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,440 Speaker 1: it be kind of neat to coincide the two sports 1344 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 1: a home and home where you've got a team both 1345 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 1: the professional teams visiting the exact same team. Because I 1346 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 1: was I told Maddie I did the Bills Tennessee game 1347 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:41,680 Speaker 1: about four years ago, and I'll bet you the Nashville 1348 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:46,600 Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce was doing jump doing cartwheels because the 1349 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 1: place was packed with Bills people and I and if 1350 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: there had been a hockey game that night, there's a 1351 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,479 Speaker 1: bunch of hockey Bills fans at the hockey game. And 1352 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't the Sabers playing, It was the Predators and 1353 01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:03,680 Speaker 1: somebody else, right, that's you know, so imagine that that 1354 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,839 Speaker 1: would be an enormous local boost to the local economy. 1355 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: It'd be like it'd be like a couple of days 1356 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,960 Speaker 1: of a Super Bowl week for these cities if both 1357 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 1: those clubs were in town at the same time. And 1358 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: that was what the conversation that Justin was alluding to 1359 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: that Mattie and I had last week. What do you 1360 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 1: come on, that's another tasker plan. Yeah. I don't know 1361 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,560 Speaker 1: how much the leagues are gonna be willing to collaborate 1362 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,759 Speaker 1: on that. And you're probably just talking about weekends scenarios obviously, 1363 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,759 Speaker 1: because football is only on the weekends. So nowadays Sunday 1364 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 1: so or better yet, a Thursday Sunday. Yeah, because then 1365 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 1: you you can roll it into a four day into 1366 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 1: a four day weekend. Yeah. That would take some doing, yes, 1367 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,320 Speaker 1: because you know all the hoops that the lay office 1368 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 1: jumps through just to get an NFL schedule put together. 1369 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,080 Speaker 1: Think about it. Yeah, it's it's now you add a 1370 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 1: multitude of different permutations to get enough home dates. I 1371 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 1: got two words, artificial intelligence. Well, turn it over to computer, 1372 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 1: see what it spits out, tweak it from there, get 1373 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:09,840 Speaker 1: it done. Okay, Yeah, you know it's plan number three. 1374 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:16,160 Speaker 1: Write us down. Um, that Tasker plan actually has a 1375 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: chance because you would think it would happen just out 1376 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 1: of happenstance. I think every chamber of commerce in the 1377 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: country would agree with you wholeheartedly. Right, I'm not convinced 1378 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 1: both leagues would. Why wouldn't both leagues be all into it? 1379 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 1: The tickets are going to sell out the game that 1380 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 1: I don't think any league wants to be sharing fan 1381 01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 1: disposable income with another league. Now, for people like the Pagoulas, 1382 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what would they share. They own on 1383 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 1: both sides of the fence. Yeah, what would they be 1384 01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 1: disposable income? Are you convinced that everybody has the money 1385 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,760 Speaker 1: to travel go to an away football game and go 1386 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,000 Speaker 1: to away hockey game in the same weekend you can 1387 01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: get Now, well, here's the thing you're forgetting. Are you 1388 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 1: convinced that those those events, both of them would sell out. 1389 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: I think it depends on the venue in the city. 1390 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: I think it does. Um, I think they sell out 1391 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 1: at automatic. I think Buffalo is one of the few 1392 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:16,559 Speaker 1: cities where everybody that is a Bills fan is also 1393 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 1: a Sabers fan and would go watch a hockey game 1394 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,160 Speaker 1: almost as much as they would go watch a football game. 1395 01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:26,720 Speaker 1: I think that exists in Boston. I think it probably 1396 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,600 Speaker 1: exists in Pittsburgh. Maybe not to the degree that you 1397 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 1: think it does. Um, but I don't know if that 1398 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,880 Speaker 1: holds true for every city. Yeah, but I'll tell you 1399 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,040 Speaker 1: what think about it though, that to me would be 1400 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:42,480 Speaker 1: like it would be as big a boom for financially 1401 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 1: for the cities themselves as it as an outdoor classic 1402 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 1: innho game. Yeah. And I even I think it may 1403 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 1: take an ownership group like the Pagoulas who own an 1404 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 1: NFL and an NHL team to give that some track. 1405 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 1: Somebody that's on both sides of that fence is somebody 1406 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 1: that would have to broker some kind of an agreement 1407 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 1: like that. Not that I'm giving them work by any means, 1408 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,680 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that's the kind of person that's 1409 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,360 Speaker 1: going to have to give it moment think about it. 1410 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,840 Speaker 1: All you'd have to do is try it one weekend, Yeah, 1411 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 1: and then if it if Sometimes it's happened just by 1412 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: happenstance where when where it's happened here where we've had 1413 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: home games for the Savers and home games for the 1414 01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: Bills in the same weekend, but not from the same 1415 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 1: away city. It wouldn't be the pick correct and be 1416 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,680 Speaker 1: the Bruins and the Patriots. Correct as to be the 1417 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Penguins. It wouldn't be the Hurricanes and 1418 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 1: the Panthers. Yeah, it would it's you know whoever it is. 1419 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Think about That's that's the crucial element. Yeah, interesting if 1420 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 1: they can work it has happened by happenstance, yet it 1421 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 1: probably has it's somewhere along the line. Can you think 1422 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:54,880 Speaker 1: about how think about how fun that city would be 1423 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,679 Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh fans going to wherever, Bills fans going wherever Tampa, 1424 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 1: all of that come on bro sleeve. That would be. 1425 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 1: That would be I'm not fighting, Yeah, I just it 1426 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 1: would be literally like a weekend of a Super Bowl 1427 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: for these cities. And they don't have to pay for 1428 01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 1: the package. They don't have to come up with nine 1429 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: figures to buy the the event. Yeah. Something to think about, 1430 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: something to think about. They have to get together. That's 1431 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 1: a tasker plan that has some vaster plan that actually 1432 01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,759 Speaker 1: has a chance that one does because at some points 1433 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen by happenstance, and then they're gonna say, like 1434 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 1: wait a minute here and that that's all it will take. Yeah, 1435 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 1: that's all it will take. All right, while we contemplate that, 1436 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 1: we will take a break. David Amherst, Dan and Lancaster 1437 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 1: Hank Tight will get to you when we return as 1438 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:51,240 Speaker 1: the OBL fanmail band. I just want to know how 1439 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: feasible it is to craft two schedules with as many 1440 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 1: games as they have one, to put two teams in 1441 01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: the same cities on the same weekend when you have 1442 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,440 Speaker 1: upwards of fifteen, well double the number thirty teams to accommodate. 1443 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 1: That's going to be interesting. And you have you got 1444 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,040 Speaker 1: months to do it though, come okay or intelligence putting it? 1445 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: Just put the little card in the computer and watch 1446 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 1: it go back in a second. Here on one Bill's 1447 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Live O BL fan mail Bag is open here on 1448 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 1: a Friday NFL films breat co Sell coming up at 1449 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 1: the top of the hour about twenty five minutes from now, 1450 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 1: sustaining two for that as we're gonna be going over 1451 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 1: some linebackers in the draft. But right now we go 1452 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: to the phones and Dave and Amhurst has been waiting. Dave, 1453 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bills Live. Hey, guys, 1454 01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: H'm not more than a little consort probably about our 1455 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 1: run game. And I've heard YouTube guys as well as 1456 01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,200 Speaker 1: under the every other football analyst around late say that 1457 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 1: games are wonner loss in the trenches, and I think 1458 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 1: that's inarguable. So bas based on that, Um, I'm wondering 1459 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,599 Speaker 1: if you think that we put enough emphasis on getting 1460 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:16,000 Speaker 1: better run blockers, and or maybe these guys aren't out 1461 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 1: there who possess the skills for both great run blocking 1462 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: and pass blocking. And then you know, I'm of the 1463 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:27,400 Speaker 1: opinion as most others are pass blocking is very good. Um, 1464 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,560 Speaker 1: but what do you guys think I think that singletary 1465 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,040 Speaker 1: and losses, they're fine, We don't I don't think we 1466 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: need an upgrade. Great there, but they can't run through 1467 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: brick walls. So I'd like to hear what you have 1468 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,639 Speaker 1: to think about that. Yeah, there's a lot in your question, Dave, 1469 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: and I get it. You're right now. Even when in 1470 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,760 Speaker 1: the postseason press conference Brandon Being said we want to 1471 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 1: run the ball better, they and it was said this 1472 01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,320 Speaker 1: at the time, the point was made that they don't 1473 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,720 Speaker 1: want to run the ball more, they want to run 1474 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 1: it better. We've had guys like Ruben brown On and 1475 01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 1: Eric Wood, our friend who does radio games on radio. 1476 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 1: He says, you know, if you want to run it better, 1477 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 1: you almost have to run it more, because that's how 1478 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,719 Speaker 1: you get better at it. You can't you don't practice 1479 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 1: it too much live in practice, and when you run 1480 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,760 Speaker 1: it more, you begin to run it better. But this 1481 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: is a team, and we say, you know, we the 1482 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,480 Speaker 1: run game is a concern. It's not really a concern 1483 01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:26,360 Speaker 1: because the offense is humming like a blender at a 1484 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 1: milkshop store, you know, I mean, it is running all 1485 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,719 Speaker 1: the time, and this offense is really good, and people 1486 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 1: are looking for ways. Okay, what did you know when 1487 01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:37,880 Speaker 1: you watch the games, what do they need? What do 1488 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 1: they Well, they got stopped for short games too much. 1489 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 1: In the running game. Well, they score, you know in 1490 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,280 Speaker 1: some of these games. I mean, let me go back 1491 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,200 Speaker 1: and look, they're scoring, you know, thirty five. They scored 1492 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 1: thirty points a game, so you know, there's not much 1493 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:59,519 Speaker 1: wrong with this offense. They scored fifty six points against 1494 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:03,440 Speaker 1: the number one scoring defense in the league in Week seventeen, 1495 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 1: so the entire season, the Dolphins were the number one 1496 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 1: scoring team defense in the league. The entire season, but 1497 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,719 Speaker 1: down the stretch. Yeah, they were the number one team 1498 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: until they played the Bills in seventeen. They ended up 1499 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:19,639 Speaker 1: number six. The Bills are killing it offensively, So when 1500 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,240 Speaker 1: you want to say they're run games are gonna I 1501 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 1: get it. But I'm not that concerned. If they want 1502 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 1: to run it more, that would concern me more than 1503 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 1: running it better. I like what they're doing. Throw that thing, 1504 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,760 Speaker 1: they got weapons, they got a guy that can do it, 1505 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 1: throw it, so, that and so. But I'm with you. 1506 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,800 Speaker 1: If you want to run it better, you need a 1507 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,120 Speaker 1: dominant offensive line. It all starts there. Moss and Singletary, 1508 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you as well. I like those guys. They're 1509 01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to put finger quotes on it. They're good, 1510 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 1: not just good enough, they're good. I'm fine with those guys. 1511 01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,600 Speaker 1: So there's a lot in your question, David, appreciate it. 1512 01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,400 Speaker 1: And the other layer to it is this, the front 1513 01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:00,680 Speaker 1: office this offseason has basically told you they believe this 1514 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: offensive line to a large degree, can be better in 1515 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 1: the run blocking area, at least as Steve and I 1516 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 1: see it from the chairs that we sit in. By 1517 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,600 Speaker 1: resigning John Feliciano and resigning Daryl Williams and okay, you 1518 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 1: brought in Forrest Lamp and a couple of other new people, 1519 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:22,400 Speaker 1: Jamil Douglas as a swing tackle candidate. To a large degree, 1520 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,519 Speaker 1: you're saying, we just need to be healthy and will 1521 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 1: be better running the football. That's essentially what they're saying. 1522 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 1: They didn't make any big splashes, not that they could 1523 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 1: really afford to do so anyway. But if they come 1524 01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: out of this draft with three offensive linemen and they're 1525 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 1: like all Deonte Brown from Alabama who's six five, three 1526 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,800 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five pounds, well maybe they'll be saying 1527 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 1: something different. But for right now, it's an indication based 1528 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,160 Speaker 1: on what they've done to this point that they feel 1529 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: they are good enough in terms of the people that 1530 01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,479 Speaker 1: they have. They just need to stay healthy, which they 1531 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 1: could not do last year. Especially guard to guard. They're 1532 01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 1: sixty forty pass to run, sixty percent pass forty percent 1533 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:08,880 Speaker 1: run to me. That's about where their you know, commitment is. Um, 1534 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,639 Speaker 1: they got a good they got a good pass protection crew, 1535 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:18,559 Speaker 1: and that's what they want first and foremost. Sixty percent 1536 01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,240 Speaker 1: of their emphasis is on getting a guy that can 1537 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,919 Speaker 1: pass pro If he can run block great it's a bonus, certainly. 1538 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,879 Speaker 1: I've said this a ton on the show. Your offense 1539 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,639 Speaker 1: will be dominant when your offensive line is dominant, when 1540 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 1: you can run or pass whenever you want. The Bills 1541 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,760 Speaker 1: last year they wanted to throw it. There's there's not 1542 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:42,080 Speaker 1: even let's not even sugarcoated. This year. They came out 1543 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 1: in four wides last year with a rookie and they 1544 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 1: were slinging it. Their quarterback to that, up to Week 1545 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,719 Speaker 1: one of last season had never thrown for three hundred yards, 1546 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: and he lit it up and was in the MVP race. 1547 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 1: They are gonna, they are. I would be shocked if 1548 01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,800 Speaker 1: they took the ball out of Josh Allen's hands and 1549 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:08,599 Speaker 1: gave it to Devin Singletary and Zach Moss more next year, 1550 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:14,760 Speaker 1: if not less. Yeah, we'll see where it goes. They 1551 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,360 Speaker 1: come out of this draft with a couple of big 1552 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 1: beefy linemen. We'll know that they felt differently than we 1553 01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 1: think they do right now based on the actions of 1554 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 1: free agency. Let's get back to the phones, though, and 1555 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 1: to Dan and Lancaster, we go, Dan, what do you 1556 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 1: have for us? You're on one Bills live. I got 1557 01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of trivia for you. Speaking of matching 1558 01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,639 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Sabers. In nineteen seventy, the Bills 1559 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,040 Speaker 1: played their first game in Pittsburgh. It was on a 1560 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 1: Saturday night, the first national official game in the National 1561 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:50,720 Speaker 1: Hockey League, not preseason, and the Sabers were Saturday and 1562 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 1: the Bills played Sunday. We went to the We had 1563 01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 1: tickets for the Bills game. We go to Pittsburgh, nothing 1564 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,639 Speaker 1: was happening. We call up, got tickets. Sinceedon the first 1565 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 1: game to the Sabers played in Pittsburgh was what was now? 1566 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 1: That was nineteen seventy, so it was a different world 1567 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,479 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. Were there any Was there like a bunch 1568 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 1: of Bills people at the game? There was? There was 1569 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 1: quite a few Bills people. The thing of it is that, 1570 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't think we'd be able to get tickets, 1571 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:23,360 Speaker 1: right because the odd was sold out for weeks before 1572 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,559 Speaker 1: the Sabers played the first game. What about Dan, What 1573 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,799 Speaker 1: do you think if that happened now? If the Bills 1574 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 1: went down to play the Steelers on a Sunday afternoon 1575 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 1: at one and the Sabers played, say the Friday night 1576 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,920 Speaker 1: or the Saturday night of that same weekend. What do 1577 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:45,360 Speaker 1: you think would happen in Pittsburgh? It'll be loaded right right. 1578 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: It's a great idea, is it not? Absolutely? Absolutely? I 1579 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 1: don't know why they couldn't do it doesn't seem that difficult. 1580 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,880 Speaker 1: I mean several times, maybe three or four time of 1581 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,679 Speaker 1: a year they could match them up. I think I'm 1582 01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,760 Speaker 1: totally with you, Dan, you're you're speaking, I'm thank you, 1583 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,360 Speaker 1: and and and by the way, you're now in the 1584 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:12,760 Speaker 1: minority there you nice. I think, yeah, I'm with you. 1585 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 1: So that so it has happened in nineteen seventy yea, 1586 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 1: thanks Dan. That's you know, Bills fans coming forward through 1587 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:26,639 Speaker 1: for me. I he's laughing, because I how fast would 1588 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,240 Speaker 1: the hotel room, any hotel room being soaked up? As 1589 01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 1: soon as that was announced, I think, And I told 1590 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,840 Speaker 1: you this in the break, I didn't mention this before 1591 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,759 Speaker 1: we went out to think about the city of Las Vegas. 1592 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:42,280 Speaker 1: The Golden Nights versus the Buffalo Sabers on Saturday night, 1593 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 1: October thirty first, Yeah, Halloween and November first, the Raiders 1594 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,240 Speaker 1: play the Bills in Vegas in the lance in Reliance 1595 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:56,559 Speaker 1: Stay or Allegiant Stadium, whatever that is. Are you joking, dude, 1596 01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,320 Speaker 1: I didn't say I was against it. I just want 1597 01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,519 Speaker 1: to know what the realistic feasa Bill he is of 1598 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,160 Speaker 1: matching those schedules up, because it's not just four teams 1599 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,880 Speaker 1: in one city, it's four teams in one city on 1600 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 1: multiple weekends, three, four, five, dozen times over. Can they 1601 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,840 Speaker 1: make it happen? Just yeah, if they can try, if 1602 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,600 Speaker 1: they can do it. It's hard. Well, I don't know 1603 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,680 Speaker 1: how hard it is. Maybe it's easy. I don't know, 1604 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,040 Speaker 1: but I just I'm just thinking about all the different 1605 01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,639 Speaker 1: permutation computer and watch what happens. Yeah, all right, you're 1606 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,200 Speaker 1: you're thinking, and you're thinking with you know, you're thinking 1607 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,759 Speaker 1: with a with a you're thinking with a hammer and chisel, 1608 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,360 Speaker 1: and I got a laser engraver over here. Come on, 1609 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 1: all right, we gotta take a break. When we come back, 1610 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,080 Speaker 1: we'll take more of your phone calls. Great co sale 1611 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,120 Speaker 1: from NFL Films also coming up in the third hour 1612 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 1: the program, along with the latest edition of Tasker's Teammate 1613 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,639 Speaker 1: Plenty more coming your way next Here on One Bill's Live, 1614 01:28:49,640 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back 1615 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,559 Speaker 1: to the Phones we go on an obie Ll Fan 1616 01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:12,320 Speaker 1: mail bag Friday, and there we have Jerry and cheek 1617 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 1: to Wago waiting for us. Jerry, what do you have? 1618 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live. Jerry. Oh, Jerry hung up? 1619 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,439 Speaker 1: Oh that is there. We were on too, We were 1620 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 1: on a roll. Well we go from Jerry to Glenn 1621 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,320 Speaker 1: in Saint Catharine's Glenn. What do you got for us? 1622 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:35,080 Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live. Hey guys, how are you doing? Good? Great? Hey? Good? 1623 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:36,680 Speaker 1: Hey Steve. I'm the guy that called you in a 1624 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 1: long time ago, well not long ago, when you had 1625 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Maddie on there when Christmas off about the uh the 1626 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:47,080 Speaker 1: uprights having laser beating. You remember me? Yes? Anyhow, Well, 1627 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,360 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at, I'm getting to your point about 1628 01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,400 Speaker 1: doing the duel sports. I know that not this year, 1629 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,680 Speaker 1: but over the previous years. It used to be when 1630 01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,000 Speaker 1: the Rock was in town in Buffalo, you'd have the 1631 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,679 Speaker 1: Sabers and then you get there, you get the Rock 1632 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 1: and the bandits to play as well the day after 1633 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,360 Speaker 1: a day before, and it always was pretty successful. I 1634 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,479 Speaker 1: talked to a lot of people from Toronto and that, 1635 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,080 Speaker 1: and he said they loved it when they'd come in 1636 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,439 Speaker 1: and town see the least play and bang on with 1637 01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,000 Speaker 1: the rock in the next game. And uh, I think 1638 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,400 Speaker 1: football would fall right in no doubt about it. To 1639 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 1: be even better, I agree, you're talking about the the 1640 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:26,439 Speaker 1: lacrosse teams in the Toronto and the Buffalo and Buffalo 1641 01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,120 Speaker 1: and all that. Yeah, okay, when the least okay, other 1642 01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,800 Speaker 1: sports other than football. Yeah, put the football in there 1643 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 1: and do the bills on the Sunday. And uh, as 1644 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,880 Speaker 1: I said, either one of those two teams on the 1645 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,600 Speaker 1: on the if a culture to the date, whether or 1646 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:43,599 Speaker 1: not to spread apart, you're all set, right, I agree, 1647 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 1: you're another. It makes so much sense. It makes so 1648 01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:55,000 Speaker 1: much sense. And and Glenn's now talking to somebody off 1649 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,160 Speaker 1: the line, so no, he's not. It's actually Jerry and 1650 01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:00,840 Speaker 1: Cheek Touago who are still trying would not it makes 1651 01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I'm that is is just what 1652 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,799 Speaker 1: do we call this tasker plan two point zero? Tasker 1653 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,519 Speaker 1: Plan C? I think was that was three point zero? Well, yeah, 1654 01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,160 Speaker 1: because you've got the scheduling one for an eighteen game 1655 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,360 Speaker 1: NFL schedule. Wasn't there a second one? Well, NFL city 1656 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,120 Speaker 1: is my idea. Oh yeah, NFL city. That's planned two. 1657 01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:23,000 Speaker 1: That's plan bid and I knew there was more than one. Yeah, 1658 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,840 Speaker 1: that's playing three, let all three of them or by 1659 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: the way, brilliant. Yeah, this one seems just let me 1660 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 1: tell you, it seems painfully obvious as to why. It 1661 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,559 Speaker 1: seems almost embarrassing that it hasn't happened to from from 1662 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 1: a fan perspective, it's a given. They people would be 1663 01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:44,839 Speaker 1: all perspective as well. Chamber of Commerce, Chamber of Commerce, 1664 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,400 Speaker 1: man or they be they they circle that date on 1665 01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,320 Speaker 1: the Hollander. Well it's a whole you can make a 1666 01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,240 Speaker 1: whole weekend at Yeah right, I'm telling you would be 1667 01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,720 Speaker 1: like a super Bowl weekend in the every city who 1668 01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,639 Speaker 1: can't have a super Bowl, like, you know, like they're 1669 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,240 Speaker 1: not put a super Bowl here, right, I don't think so. 1670 01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:08,000 Speaker 1: The hotels ears, the only people would hate would probably 1671 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,880 Speaker 1: be the first responders, you know, night but not a 1672 01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,400 Speaker 1: good weekend night after you right night, a gud after 1673 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,720 Speaker 1: the Sabers game, night before the Bills game. A weekend. Yeah, 1674 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,800 Speaker 1: that would be a rough weekend for the emergency rooms, 1675 01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 1: but the Chamber of Commerce would love it. Okay, Well 1676 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna move along and right before the break we're 1677 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna go to Vincent in Toronto, Vincent, what you got 1678 01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:34,839 Speaker 1: for us? You're on one bills Live. Hello, gentlemen, pleasure 1679 01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,160 Speaker 1: to talk to you guys. Um Steve, I who grew 1680 01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: up idolizing you and I believe you were pound following 1681 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,600 Speaker 1: the toughest guys around. And you know I used to 1682 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,160 Speaker 1: watch you guys when you were in for Don and 1683 01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,840 Speaker 1: the Channel and you know, and I respect you, man. 1684 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,960 Speaker 1: I saw game off big men, but you you you 1685 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,679 Speaker 1: held your own well. Thank you very much. Good. You're 1686 01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,800 Speaker 1: very good. Uh. I learned a lot from your vocabulary. 1687 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,000 Speaker 1: One the smartest man on the radio too. Look at 1688 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 1: you and articulate too. How about that, Vincy? You call 1689 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,280 Speaker 1: back at least once a week. Thank you? Check is 1690 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,519 Speaker 1: in the mail. Yes, and I always listening to you guys. 1691 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,720 Speaker 1: Gonna do a lot of driving every day, so I'm great. 1692 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: What have we said today that got your call? Yes? Um? What? What? What? 1693 01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,840 Speaker 1: My biggest drawback with the Bills right now, I think 1694 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,639 Speaker 1: they should emphasize the run game a little more because 1695 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,080 Speaker 1: the game against Kansas City, the AFC Championship game, I 1696 01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,840 Speaker 1: realized that Kansas City did not respect the run game, 1697 01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,439 Speaker 1: and because of that, they calibrate their defense in order 1698 01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,840 Speaker 1: to stop Josh. But you know, sometimes you have to 1699 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,800 Speaker 1: keep teams honest by having a threat of the run. 1700 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,519 Speaker 1: And I believe that they should put a little more 1701 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 1: emphasis because Kansas City is the team that we that 1702 01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,599 Speaker 1: the Bills need to go after and idolize your game, 1703 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:55,320 Speaker 1: and by minimizing their turn on offense, I think that 1704 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,320 Speaker 1: that will help the Bills in order to win the 1705 01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,360 Speaker 1: games because a lot of times it was ten twelve 1706 01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 1: played through maybe six seven minutes a game. That will 1707 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,519 Speaker 1: help a team win to keep the ball away from 1708 01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,439 Speaker 1: Andy Reid on his offense because you're very impotent. Well, yeah, 1709 01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,480 Speaker 1: it's a good point. It's a really good point, particularly 1710 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:17,320 Speaker 1: in certain situations. Just like you just said, there is game. 1711 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,280 Speaker 1: There are games where you need to run. The Bills 1712 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,719 Speaker 1: did that against the New England Patriots here in Orchard Park, 1713 01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 1: and they also did it against the Seattle or No 1714 01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:32,559 Speaker 1: the U S the LA Chargers in their game there 1715 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,880 Speaker 1: as well. They ran the ball predominantly against those defenses 1716 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:38,320 Speaker 1: because that was the matchup that worked for them. They 1717 01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,599 Speaker 1: also did the opposite in the Seattle game. I think 1718 01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,840 Speaker 1: they started the game with seventeen straight passes, so it 1719 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,280 Speaker 1: went just the opposite way for them in the Seattle game. 1720 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,120 Speaker 1: And I think you're right. If you want to have 1721 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:53,639 Speaker 1: that tool or that yeah, that in your skill set, 1722 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,320 Speaker 1: you need to keep it sharp. And far too many 1723 01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:59,200 Speaker 1: times it didn't seem like the running game was just 1724 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:02,000 Speaker 1: sharp enough. And in the Kansas City game, you're right, 1725 01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,360 Speaker 1: And I don't know that they would have run it 1726 01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,439 Speaker 1: more at that point of the season, the way the 1727 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,320 Speaker 1: offense had come to fruition throughout the regular season. I 1728 01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:12,680 Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna say, you know what, we're 1729 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,240 Speaker 1: gonna take the ball out of our guy who was 1730 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,800 Speaker 1: in the running for the MVP, and we're gonna hand 1731 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,120 Speaker 1: it off. I don't know they would have done that, 1732 01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:19,960 Speaker 1: and I don't know that would have made the difference 1733 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,760 Speaker 1: in that game. But I know this, and it's been 1734 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,639 Speaker 1: my take in Brownie. You'll tell you they're good enough 1735 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,479 Speaker 1: to beat Kansas City, right or at the end of 1736 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,320 Speaker 1: the last season when they got in the playoffs, we're 1737 01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,559 Speaker 1: winning playoff games. They were good enough to beat Kansas 1738 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 1: City then, But you gotta play well on the day 1739 01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,719 Speaker 1: you play them. The Bills did not. The Kansas City 1740 01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs played as good a game as they played the 1741 01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,960 Speaker 1: last six to eight weeks of the season. They played 1742 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,280 Speaker 1: their best game in that entire stretch against the Buffalo Bills, 1743 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:49,880 Speaker 1: and then they did not in the super Bowl, and 1744 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,080 Speaker 1: they didn't in the super Bowl. So don't think the 1745 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:56,679 Speaker 1: Bills have got to revamp their philosophy or change their 1746 01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,240 Speaker 1: approach or do anything vastly different than they it a 1747 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,920 Speaker 1: year ago. To beat Kansas City on any given day, 1748 01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,280 Speaker 1: They're good enough to do that now, but they've got 1749 01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,880 Speaker 1: to play well on that day. Now. The Chiefs are 1750 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,679 Speaker 1: supremely talented. So that says that's what every team will 1751 01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,479 Speaker 1: tell you. If the Chiefs are playing their best, you're 1752 01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,439 Speaker 1: gonna have to get lucky and play your best to 1753 01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:21,320 Speaker 1: beat them. Both. If they're not playing their best, all 1754 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,200 Speaker 1: you gotta do is play your best. You don't luck 1755 01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,559 Speaker 1: or not. So that's where the Bills are. I get 1756 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:30,439 Speaker 1: that about the run game and all that, but they're 1757 01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,960 Speaker 1: on the right trail. We're good. Yeah, we're good. And 1758 01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 1: I thought this had happened already, And our good friend 1759 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,360 Speaker 1: Paul Hamilton has told us that it has the weekend 1760 01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,840 Speaker 1: of the ice storm in Detroit, we had Sabers red 1761 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:45,240 Speaker 1: wings on Friday, Bills Lions on Sunday. So it has happened, 1762 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,280 Speaker 1: and unintentionally, but it's happened. I want to I want 1763 01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,799 Speaker 1: to see some Chamber of Conference Commerce numbers, you know, Okay, 1764 01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,160 Speaker 1: I want to see Oh you know who to call 1765 01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 1: for that. We have to take a break, no idea. 1766 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,080 Speaker 1: NFL Films great co sale coming up. We're gonna talk 1767 01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 1: linebacker prospects with him when we return here on One 1768 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:22,480 Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio 1769 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,719 Speaker 1: at a Steve tester who has been all over the field. 1770 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,439 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role 1771 01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:34,880 Speaker 1: player for you. Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even 1772 01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:40,800 Speaker 1: in the strated fere of normalcy. It is our number 1773 01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,920 Speaker 1: three on a Friday, One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve 1774 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,400 Speaker 1: Tasker with you and here making his weekly appearance as 1775 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,880 Speaker 1: he will be right up until NFL Draft twenty twenty one. 1776 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,680 Speaker 1: Senior producer of NFL Films, Greg Kosell joining us and 1777 01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 1: we are locked and loaded to talk linebackers today. And 1778 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,280 Speaker 1: Greg is ready as always as he has been grinding 1779 01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,320 Speaker 1: the tape. Have you had to change eye glass prescriptions yet? Greg? 1780 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,320 Speaker 1: Because but the amount of film that you watch. I'm 1781 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,519 Speaker 1: surprised your eyes have not fallen out of your skull. 1782 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,439 Speaker 1: Do you mention that, Chris? I went to the eye doctor, 1783 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, a month or so ago, and apparently 1784 01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,479 Speaker 1: my prescription changed ever so slightly. He said, not enough 1785 01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,639 Speaker 1: where I really needed new glasses on us. I really 1786 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,760 Speaker 1: wanted to, but no, I haven't had two in a while. 1787 01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:28,240 Speaker 1: Well then you're very fortunate, well you yeah, Well now 1788 01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,320 Speaker 1: I was the poster child. When I hit forty, all 1789 01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,559 Speaker 1: of a sudden, everything changed and my arms were no 1790 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:38,320 Speaker 1: longer long enough to read. You're not the only one 1791 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,759 Speaker 1: in that boat. Yeah, I know. I take my glasses 1792 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:43,200 Speaker 1: off and put them I have readers, you know. I 1793 01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:44,800 Speaker 1: use readers on the air and everything, and I got 1794 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,280 Speaker 1: about seven pairs of readers, Greg, take you're all over 1795 01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:50,080 Speaker 1: the place. I take my glasses off and put them 1796 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:54,280 Speaker 1: back on at least fifty times every show. Oh we're 1797 01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna have it over under on that in the not 1798 01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:57,760 Speaker 1: too just. I do it all day long. I mean, 1799 01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:01,439 Speaker 1: it's it's yeah. But because I don't need them for distance, 1800 01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't need them to drive, but I can't see 1801 01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,040 Speaker 1: anything without them. As far as we're reading or we're 1802 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:07,720 Speaker 1: doing this kind of work, right, So before we get 1803 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,640 Speaker 1: into the linebackers, I'm gonna I'm gonna put the disclaimer 1804 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,559 Speaker 1: out there. We've already had the discussion off the air 1805 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:14,519 Speaker 1: with Greg about task or three point thos or I'm 1806 01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:18,880 Speaker 1: not gonna bore you with the hockey football convergence of scheduling. 1807 01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,000 Speaker 1: Although it's a great idea, is that not? Greg? Of 1808 01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,080 Speaker 1: course in your example that that wouldn't work because every 1809 01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:27,920 Speaker 1: weekend is a super Bowl weekend on Lower Broadway in Nashville. 1810 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 1: Well that's except well not like I've seen it, but anyway, yeah, 1811 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,559 Speaker 1: but I get it, but it is a great all 1812 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,360 Speaker 1: right anyway, Okay, So anyway, we're gonna talk about linebackers 1813 01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,040 Speaker 1: this week, right, So you've you've grind through this. How 1814 01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,920 Speaker 1: do you put a hierarchy on how you plow through 1815 01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,040 Speaker 1: these position groups? Do you like, pick all the quarterbacks 1816 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,880 Speaker 1: in terms of quote unquote value that that new term 1817 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,600 Speaker 1: for all these positions? Not yeah kind of, but do 1818 01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,080 Speaker 1: you do you just say, Okay, I'm gonna go look 1819 01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:56,880 Speaker 1: at all the linebackers now, or I'm gonna go look 1820 01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,000 Speaker 1: at this team, and I say I'm gonna look at 1821 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:00,600 Speaker 1: all the guys on this team, and then I do 1822 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,599 Speaker 1: that or how do you do that? Now, it's very 1823 01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:06,719 Speaker 1: random with me. I can't watch one position. I can't 1824 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,439 Speaker 1: watch what ten players are one position, all in a row, 1825 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,680 Speaker 1: because it starts to look the same. Because at the 1826 01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,519 Speaker 1: end of the day, there's very few, as you guys know, 1827 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:18,000 Speaker 1: transcendent players or guys that are terrible where you just go, oh, 1828 01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 1: that guy is great and it's obvious, or this guy 1829 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,080 Speaker 1: just he's not gonna you know, he'll be a late 1830 01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:25,760 Speaker 1: round pick at best. Most players at positions are in 1831 01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,479 Speaker 1: that sort of mass of what I guess would be 1832 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,840 Speaker 1: called second round to sixth round picks, and so many 1833 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 1: of those guys end up being in the eye of 1834 01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:38,839 Speaker 1: the beholder team scheme, coaching, and if I watch one position, 1835 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,920 Speaker 1: ten eleven guys in a row, it just starts to 1836 01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,200 Speaker 1: look the same. And there are positions that are tough 1837 01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,960 Speaker 1: to watch. You can watch safeties and you could go 1838 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:48,559 Speaker 1: a whole game where they don't do much. You could 1839 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,320 Speaker 1: watch a corner and if he's not really attacked, you're 1840 01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,960 Speaker 1: trying to just watch his movement. So no, I don't 1841 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,000 Speaker 1: do it that way. I'm very random. I jump around. 1842 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,480 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, we've got a guy that's 1843 01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,320 Speaker 1: some people consider an edge player, some people think he's 1844 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,120 Speaker 1: a linebacker. Joseph Osai is a guy who were talking 1845 01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:10,880 Speaker 1: about on the show here yesterday, And I don't know. 1846 01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,240 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on your scheme in terms of 1847 01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:17,080 Speaker 1: what you see him as. The thing that stands out 1848 01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,760 Speaker 1: about him is long limbed player. He's got thirty four 1849 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:24,280 Speaker 1: inch arms greg for a you know, for a linebacker 1850 01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,639 Speaker 1: type body, which is unusual. But he also, with all 1851 01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:31,479 Speaker 1: his playing time, doesn't have a tremendous amount of production numbers. 1852 01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:35,360 Speaker 1: So where do you come down on this guy? Well, 1853 01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,280 Speaker 1: as you probably know, he moved from an off the 1854 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,840 Speaker 1: ball stacked linebacker in two and nineteen to an on 1855 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,920 Speaker 1: the ball edge player in twenty twenty. And of course, 1856 01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:48,800 Speaker 1: when you're in that role, you're a pass rusher. He's 1857 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:52,320 Speaker 1: got very heavy hands, he's got a really strong body, 1858 01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:58,680 Speaker 1: and this guy plays with unbelievable competitiveness and effort. I mean, 1859 01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:02,519 Speaker 1: that's what stands out more than anything. Um. But I 1860 01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,679 Speaker 1: would say that as far as being a pass rusher, 1861 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:09,040 Speaker 1: I think he has worked to do. He flashes on 1862 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:14,840 Speaker 1: singular plays, but I think that he gets handled. He's 1863 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:18,240 Speaker 1: not a sudden explosive guy. He's not a bender, he's 1864 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 1: not flexible. Um. Overall, Uh, you can always find individual plays. Um. 1865 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:28,040 Speaker 1: I think he uses his arms well, uh, and his 1866 01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,479 Speaker 1: body strength well to try to playoff contact. But I 1867 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,720 Speaker 1: think he has worked to do to really become a 1868 01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,840 Speaker 1: meaningful pass rusher at the NFL level. What kind of 1869 01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 1: you know, what's upside to him? Is he is a 1870 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:43,840 Speaker 1: transcendent athlete? Is he you know long enough? I know 1871 01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,599 Speaker 1: he's tall enough. So what what you're telling me now 1872 01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:49,800 Speaker 1: is you've got a guy you're looking at who's who 1873 01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,080 Speaker 1: can play football. Obviously, but if he's gonna be truly 1874 01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,479 Speaker 1: a great player or even a valuable number one pick, 1875 01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:01,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna have to come from from him. Yeah. And 1876 01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,960 Speaker 1: again I'm not good at making lists of players or 1877 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,200 Speaker 1: doing mocks, but I would not look at Joseph aside 1878 01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,280 Speaker 1: just in evaluating his game on tape, which is what 1879 01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,200 Speaker 1: I do, And I did not come away saying this 1880 01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,760 Speaker 1: guy is a number one or a first round pick 1881 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:20,639 Speaker 1: in a draft. I think you'll be really excited by 1882 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,439 Speaker 1: his high level of intensity. I'm sure that a D 1883 01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:25,840 Speaker 1: line coach would say, hey, I want this guy in 1884 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,160 Speaker 1: my room because this guy plays the game the right way. 1885 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:31,760 Speaker 1: But I think you really have to work with him 1886 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,200 Speaker 1: on how to become a better pass rusher. Now that 1887 01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 1: doesn't mean Steve that in three years he may not 1888 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,519 Speaker 1: be a very good player. He's just not there right now. 1889 01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:42,360 Speaker 1: He's not come and no one comes in as a 1890 01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,400 Speaker 1: finished product, obviously, but I think there's much work to 1891 01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,559 Speaker 1: be done. One of the other guys on our list 1892 01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,920 Speaker 1: at linebacker is the linebacker from Kentucky, and I think 1893 01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:54,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying his name, Jamon Davis. Jaymon Davis, six four, 1894 01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,720 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty four pounds. What can you tell 1895 01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:01,160 Speaker 1: us about this guy from Kentucky? This guy, I've got 1896 01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,400 Speaker 1: a man crushed on this guy. I didn't know anything 1897 01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:05,479 Speaker 1: about him until I put the tape on maybe six 1898 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:08,719 Speaker 1: or seven weeks ago, so he was totally virgin territory 1899 01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,200 Speaker 1: to me. And I've loved his tape, loved it. I 1900 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:16,080 Speaker 1: think this guy absolutely fits the NFL game. Sixty three 1901 01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:20,560 Speaker 1: and a half two thirty four runs well. Explosive athlete, 1902 01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:25,719 Speaker 1: he has size, length, play speed, coverage ability, range, He's 1903 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:28,960 Speaker 1: willing to be physical in the run game. I think 1904 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,599 Speaker 1: this guy to me, and now that I've watched a 1905 01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,000 Speaker 1: lot of linebackers. When I'd watched him, I'd probably only 1906 01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,639 Speaker 1: seen four or five, but now I've probably seen fifteen 1907 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,160 Speaker 1: or eighteen. I think this guy is a really high 1908 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,120 Speaker 1: level prospect, particularly in today's NFL, because you have to 1909 01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,360 Speaker 1: think of it this way. What's the NFL game? It's sub. 1910 01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,639 Speaker 1: Look at the Bills, ninety percent of their snaps last 1911 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,320 Speaker 1: year are nickel. They're gonna play with two linebackers, so 1912 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 1: they're not the only team. I mean, obviously they're high 1913 01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,320 Speaker 1: at ninety percent, but you in order to be a 1914 01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:02,759 Speaker 1: high dres pick as a linebacker and have true value, 1915 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,960 Speaker 1: to use that word that a lot of people throw around, now, 1916 01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,719 Speaker 1: you have got to be able to play in sub. 1917 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,920 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to play in space. You've 1918 01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:13,240 Speaker 1: got to be able to close down space. You've got 1919 01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 1: to be able to run. You've got to be able 1920 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,280 Speaker 1: to cover both in zone and in man. He can 1921 01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,200 Speaker 1: do all of these things. This I think this kid's 1922 01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,679 Speaker 1: a high, high level prospect. Yeah. I mean, he's got 1923 01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,120 Speaker 1: four four seven speed, which even a two hundred and 1924 01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:30,120 Speaker 1: thirty four pounds is pretty ridiculous. What about the concerns 1925 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:34,080 Speaker 1: of his body of work. A one year starter sometimes 1926 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:38,600 Speaker 1: that gives scouting department's pause. And because you know the 1927 01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:42,400 Speaker 1: body of work is not lengthy enough, they're quote unquote unproven. 1928 01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:46,880 Speaker 1: So where do you come down on that? The way 1929 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:48,880 Speaker 1: I come down on that is if you believe this 1930 01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:51,400 Speaker 1: guy is going to be a really high level player, 1931 01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:55,080 Speaker 1: I think that's worth it. Then. And you know the 1932 01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,559 Speaker 1: flip side of that is you hear scouts say this 1933 01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,280 Speaker 1: all the time. They talk about level of competition. He 1934 01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:03,599 Speaker 1: played in the SEC. So he played in the highest 1935 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:08,639 Speaker 1: level of college competition. Yes, he obviously played three seasons 1936 01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:12,360 Speaker 1: before becoming a starter this past year. So I'm not 1937 01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,320 Speaker 1: sure I'm being honest with you because I don't know 1938 01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:18,959 Speaker 1: exactly what that means. I'm sure different organizations address that differently. 1939 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:22,960 Speaker 1: Sitting in my office here, you know, just not getting 1940 01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:24,800 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to guys and all that I 1941 01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,400 Speaker 1: mean players I'm talking about. I'm just looking at the 1942 01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,400 Speaker 1: tape and seeing the traits, and I believe this guy 1943 01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 1: has high level traits and if there's no red flags 1944 01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:38,040 Speaker 1: as far as personality, character, other issues, then I think 1945 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,120 Speaker 1: this guy's a really strong process. Yeah, he comes from 1946 01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,960 Speaker 1: a military family, so you know that certainly works in 1947 01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,160 Speaker 1: his favor in terms of discipline and the things like 1948 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,120 Speaker 1: that that you normally see from those kinds of backgrounds. 1949 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,320 Speaker 1: You have a man crush on him. The guy I 1950 01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:55,040 Speaker 1: have a man crush on is Jeremiah a Wusukamoa from 1951 01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:56,880 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Now, I don't think the Bills are going 1952 01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:58,519 Speaker 1: to get a whiff of him because he's gonna be 1953 01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,040 Speaker 1: way off the board before thirty. But I mean, this 1954 01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,680 Speaker 1: guy looks like a modern day linebacker two does he not. 1955 01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:09,000 Speaker 1: He's a fascinating player because he came in at his 1956 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,280 Speaker 1: pro day at two twenty one, which tells me he 1957 01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,479 Speaker 1: wants to be a linebacker. Because I had spoken to 1958 01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,800 Speaker 1: some people that said that he played this year. He 1959 01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:18,280 Speaker 1: was down to around two ten, So at two ten 1960 01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:19,920 Speaker 1: he was not going to be a linebacker. But he 1961 01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,320 Speaker 1: obviously got up to two twenty one through all his 1962 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,760 Speaker 1: workouts and wants to be a linebacker. He is an 1963 01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:30,839 Speaker 1: explosive guy. I mean, that's what immediately stands out. He's long, 1964 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:35,720 Speaker 1: he's rangy, he's sudden, he's explosive. This guy has elite 1965 01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:39,400 Speaker 1: movement traits, and there are plays you're just blown away 1966 01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,639 Speaker 1: because this guy looks like he's shot out of a cannon. 1967 01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:47,479 Speaker 1: So I think he'll be a linebacker ultimately. And you 1968 01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:50,120 Speaker 1: guys know this when you hear people say things like, 1969 01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,840 Speaker 1: well he can play five positions. That doesn't happen in 1970 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:54,960 Speaker 1: the NFL, and it certainly doesn't happen as a rook 1971 01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:59,040 Speaker 1: So maybe down the road he can be kind of 1972 01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,640 Speaker 1: like that you know who. He kind of reminded me of, 1973 01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:05,400 Speaker 1: and he's probably more purely explosive. Not quite as big, 1974 01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:09,320 Speaker 1: but more purely explosive. When I finished watching his tape, 1975 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:11,439 Speaker 1: the player who jumped into my head was Derwin James. 1976 01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,720 Speaker 1: I think he's kind of and I'm talking about the 1977 01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:17,040 Speaker 1: way he can be deployed. It's kind of that kind 1978 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,280 Speaker 1: of player to me. Yeah, Steve and I have been 1979 01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,880 Speaker 1: talking about this. The Bills, with as much as they 1980 01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,240 Speaker 1: play in nickel there are they've been trying to find 1981 01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:30,280 Speaker 1: a hybrid type guy to put on the field when 1982 01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,519 Speaker 1: the other team goes twelve but maybe has an super 1983 01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:37,840 Speaker 1: athletic tight end, and you know, tarn Johnson is undersized 1984 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,400 Speaker 1: in that situation and they have to take him off 1985 01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:43,479 Speaker 1: the field. They've used Dean Marlowe in recent years they've 1986 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,960 Speaker 1: used Saran Neil, you know, guys who are more of 1987 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:49,599 Speaker 1: a safety type player. Coramoa would be a perfect fit 1988 01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:56,320 Speaker 1: for that hybrid linebacker cover type guy. Would he not? Absolutely, 1989 01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:59,320 Speaker 1: because when you watch the tape, you see and this 1990 01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,680 Speaker 1: is why I love WHY games, because you have to 1991 01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,920 Speaker 1: see what he does on every play. You saw that 1992 01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:08,400 Speaker 1: there were numerous snaps in which he lined up over 1993 01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:14,680 Speaker 1: slot wide receivers and tight ends, and that's that's a 1994 01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:17,280 Speaker 1: great point. And you know, a lot of teams now 1995 01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,599 Speaker 1: play a lot of big nickel because there's a lot 1996 01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,200 Speaker 1: of teams on offense that play with two tight ends 1997 01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,600 Speaker 1: and one of those tight ends is essentially a glorified 1998 01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and there's only going to be more of 1999 01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,760 Speaker 1: those guys coming into the NFL. He's the perfect big deco, 2000 01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,759 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the best I've seen in the question 2001 01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:38,519 Speaker 1: mark becomes as you know, for everything the defense does 2002 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,720 Speaker 1: to match up, the offense tries to take advantage of 2003 01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:42,920 Speaker 1: if he's having trouble staying at two twenty five and 2004 01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,519 Speaker 1: goes down to two ten, they start to run the 2005 01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:47,200 Speaker 1: football right at him and see if he can hold 2006 01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,599 Speaker 1: up in that, and that becomes the issue. Right, It's 2007 01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:52,960 Speaker 1: a It's funny you say that, because when I watched 2008 01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,680 Speaker 1: the tape, in my mind, I thought he was his 2009 01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,360 Speaker 1: safety in terms of the way in which he was 2010 01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,240 Speaker 1: deployed and how he played. Um, he's not a stacked 2011 01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:05,519 Speaker 1: a backer. That's what he's not. Right now. That doesn't 2012 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,200 Speaker 1: mean he can't quote unquote be a linebacker. He's just 2013 01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,559 Speaker 1: not someone you're gonna line up. Let's say, you know, 2014 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,000 Speaker 1: right behind your your three technique. I mean, he's not 2015 01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,280 Speaker 1: that player. He's a kind of player that you're gonna 2016 01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,280 Speaker 1: have to He's gonna have to fit in your scheme. 2017 01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:18,720 Speaker 1: He's got a skill set, but it's kind of a 2018 01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:20,680 Speaker 1: unique skill set to go with the body that he 2019 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,600 Speaker 1: brings in the physicality he brings. But he's got a 2020 01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:27,920 Speaker 1: lot of versatility. Right. Oh, and he's he's he's explosive. 2021 01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,920 Speaker 1: Is all get up. I mean, this guy he makes 2022 01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,120 Speaker 1: plays where he just he can go from zero to 2023 01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:34,559 Speaker 1: sixty and a heartbeat. All right. Another guy we've been 2024 01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:36,839 Speaker 1: talking about. We had a conversation about this guy yesterday, 2025 01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:41,559 Speaker 1: Zavan Collins. He's he's a little completely different. He's six four, 2026 01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:45,880 Speaker 1: two sixty uh and playing a linebacker and he's he's 2027 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:52,640 Speaker 1: also you know, made some plays during his career at Tulsays. 2028 01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:57,240 Speaker 1: Guy's a little freakish um amazingly enough, Steve. The one 2029 01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:59,640 Speaker 1: thing he's not at that size is he's not a 2030 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:03,360 Speaker 1: pure physical player. He actually plays much more like an 2031 01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:07,559 Speaker 1: athlete than he does a pure physical player. I think 2032 01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:11,479 Speaker 1: that there's pass rush traits to be worked on. We 2033 01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:14,080 Speaker 1: saw him line up as basically a wide nine pass 2034 01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:18,800 Speaker 1: rusher at Tulson, rushed the quarterback and show some ability 2035 01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,839 Speaker 1: to do that. Like I said, I think there's more there. 2036 01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:25,160 Speaker 1: This guy made some interceptions where he looked like he 2037 01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,479 Speaker 1: was a two hundred twenty pound safety. I mean, he 2038 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,640 Speaker 1: had an interception return for a touchdown I think to 2039 01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,400 Speaker 1: end the game in overtime that was ninety five yards 2040 01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:34,360 Speaker 1: or so, and man, he looked like he was a 2041 01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:38,080 Speaker 1: two hundred twenty pounds safety. But this guy's a multidimensional, 2042 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,280 Speaker 1: multi positional guy. In college, he played a lot of 2043 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:43,880 Speaker 1: positions and that usually tells you that he's got some 2044 01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,639 Speaker 1: smarts to him as well, because you wouldn't ask him 2045 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:50,439 Speaker 1: to do that if he couldn't do it. So I 2046 01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:53,880 Speaker 1: think that he can be a sub defense linebacker coming 2047 01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:58,080 Speaker 1: right into the league. Obviously, the Bills don't necessarily need 2048 01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,920 Speaker 1: that with Mulano and Edmonds. But this guy's fascinating to me. 2049 01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:05,800 Speaker 1: He's bigger, but he kind of reminds me of the 2050 01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,240 Speaker 1: way the Patriots, and now he's back with the Patriots, 2051 01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:10,320 Speaker 1: the way they use Kyle van Noy and kind of 2052 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:14,479 Speaker 1: multiple positions, a multidimensional player and doing a lot of 2053 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,280 Speaker 1: different things. Collins to me, he's kind of that guy. 2054 01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:19,320 Speaker 1: He's just two hundred and sixty pounds. Yeah, I mean 2055 01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,760 Speaker 1: an athlete. You look at him on paper and you 2056 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,920 Speaker 1: say sixty three two sixty, and it's hard not to 2057 01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,120 Speaker 1: think of Levon Kirkland. I don't know if you could 2058 01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 1: look at a guy that carries six three two sixty 2059 01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:33,320 Speaker 1: any differently than Levon Kirkland. Now he's six five, he's 2060 01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,840 Speaker 1: six four and seven eight six five to sixty. Yeah, 2061 01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,960 Speaker 1: he looks. It's insane. I mean, this guy he comes 2062 01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,960 Speaker 1: right out of a science lab if you want to 2063 01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,479 Speaker 1: put six five two sixty out on a football field, 2064 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,519 Speaker 1: and he looks like an athlete. NOI he moves. He's 2065 01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,479 Speaker 1: a loose guy. I mean he's not he's not stiff, 2066 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, So he's he's gonna be interesting. He's one 2067 01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 1: of the guys our most fascinatedcy who drafts him, and 2068 01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,280 Speaker 1: then that'll tell me something right away because I'll know 2069 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,920 Speaker 1: you know what. Yeah, because coordinating, because Greg ten years ago, 2070 01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fascinated. Yeah, because ten years ago, this 2071 01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,160 Speaker 1: is a guy that people would peg as an outside 2072 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,720 Speaker 1: linebacker in a three four. He is more versatile than that. 2073 01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:14,120 Speaker 1: You don't have to pay more, you don't have to 2074 01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,000 Speaker 1: pin him down in a three four system. He could 2075 01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,559 Speaker 1: play in a four three somewhere. No, no, but you're 2076 01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:20,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent right, Chris. Years ago, he'd be a 2077 01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,400 Speaker 1: three four outside backer or a four three sam And 2078 01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:25,000 Speaker 1: that's what people would say, And that's what he would 2079 01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:26,960 Speaker 1: be in that sid see you later, not not in 2080 01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,960 Speaker 1: the way defenses play in the NFL now, right. And 2081 01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,640 Speaker 1: so he's We're talking about all these guys and some 2082 01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:35,800 Speaker 1: of them or couldn't be couldn't look more different if 2083 01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,679 Speaker 1: they walk in the room. One guy's six five, two sixty. 2084 01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:40,360 Speaker 1: The other guy we were just talking about sixty one, 2085 01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:45,200 Speaker 1: two thirteen or two ten or twenty twenty, and they're 2086 01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,800 Speaker 1: both kind of lumped in. That's how I think that's 2087 01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:53,439 Speaker 1: really the interesting part about the NFL at the current moment, 2088 01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,439 Speaker 1: depending on who you've got and who you're facing. Like 2089 01:53:57,479 --> 01:53:59,920 Speaker 1: if you're going to New England today and your face 2090 01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:04,519 Speaker 1: sing Hunter Henry and John U. Smith, it's very different 2091 01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:09,479 Speaker 1: than coming to Buffalo and facing Cob Cole Beasley, John Brown, 2092 01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:14,439 Speaker 1: Dave Davis and Steph did And And you made a 2093 01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,920 Speaker 1: great point, and that's why you need players who can 2094 01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,000 Speaker 1: do both those things right now. It might not be 2095 01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:21,439 Speaker 1: the same player, you know, it might depend on the 2096 01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:24,639 Speaker 1: week who gets more snaps. But it's also the reason, 2097 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,719 Speaker 1: and I say this honestly why I don't make lists 2098 01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,439 Speaker 1: at positions, because I don't know how to make a 2099 01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:34,560 Speaker 1: list that includes Zavian Collins and and Coromoa. What's to Coromoa? 2100 01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:38,240 Speaker 1: To me, they can't be on the same list. It 2101 01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:42,400 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, right, wanted to get 2102 01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:46,000 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Jabril Cox. He's kind of an interesting 2103 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:50,520 Speaker 1: prospect here and he's gonna have a pro day on 2104 01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,040 Speaker 1: the twenty sixth of April. I mean, you want to 2105 01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:56,160 Speaker 1: talk about cutting it down to the wire, This guy's 2106 01:54:56,240 --> 01:55:01,200 Speaker 1: doing it um but a long another guy who's long athlete, 2107 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,920 Speaker 1: but covers a lot of ground, doesn't look like a 2108 01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:10,920 Speaker 1: loping strider for being such a long player. This guy's 2109 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:15,560 Speaker 1: essentially a safety. I know, he's sixty three two thirty two. 2110 01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:19,000 Speaker 1: He's not a physical player. He's an athletic finesse player. 2111 01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,760 Speaker 1: He's not gonna take on blocks. He's not that guy. 2112 01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:24,600 Speaker 1: I know. The size tells you that he's a linebacker, 2113 01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:29,120 Speaker 1: but he's essentially a safety. So he kind of fits 2114 01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,880 Speaker 1: today's NFL game because you're talking about a guy that 2115 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:38,160 Speaker 1: they used to match up too tight ends, backs, wide receivers. 2116 01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:41,960 Speaker 1: This kid can run. I mean, he's got size, length, speed, range, 2117 01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:47,640 Speaker 1: coverage ability. He's a really smooth and fluid athlete. I 2118 01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,240 Speaker 1: don't think you'd be playing him, and again it depends 2119 01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:53,040 Speaker 1: on the team and how much they played bass. I 2120 01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:58,800 Speaker 1: don't think he'd be a bass defense linebacker. Canny play 2121 01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:01,400 Speaker 1: in the box the redly he can, but that's not 2122 01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:03,760 Speaker 1: really what he does. Might be another one of those 2123 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:08,200 Speaker 1: hybrid type guys though for yeah right, yeah, I mean 2124 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,760 Speaker 1: I think there'll be legitimate questions that teams will have 2125 01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,720 Speaker 1: chris as to whether he can play as a stack linebacker. 2126 01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,240 Speaker 1: He's just not He's not really a physical guy, despite 2127 01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:18,880 Speaker 1: the fact that he's sixty three in an eighth and 2128 01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:22,040 Speaker 1: two thirty two. Yeah, and if if, and I'll say this, 2129 01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:26,000 Speaker 1: there's still as even into this in this generation, if 2130 01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,840 Speaker 1: you get tagged as a non physical football player, Um, 2131 01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,840 Speaker 1: that's a little bit like a face tattoo. Yeah, you 2132 01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:35,240 Speaker 1: can't get around, you know what I mean, I mean 2133 01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,320 Speaker 1: you can't get around. No, No, I mean that's yeah. 2134 01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean even in today's NFL, it's still a physical game. 2135 01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:43,360 Speaker 1: And but the tape showed that he's not really that guy. 2136 01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he was not He did not play through contact. 2137 01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,120 Speaker 1: He did not seem like that's what he really wanted. 2138 01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he didn't try. I don't want people 2139 01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,480 Speaker 1: to say that. I never talk about that with a guy, 2140 01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:55,680 Speaker 1: because you know, you just I don't. I don't go there. 2141 01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:57,600 Speaker 1: But it just that wasn't the way in which he 2142 01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,680 Speaker 1: played the game. One last guy I want to ask 2143 01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,320 Speaker 1: you about before we get out of here. It's a 2144 01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,520 Speaker 1: it's a Buffalo kid went to Boston College. Isaiah McDuffie. 2145 01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:07,200 Speaker 1: Day he'll be he'll be, you know, a mid round, 2146 01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:11,240 Speaker 1: late round draft pick. But he's a Buffalo kid Boston College. 2147 01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,320 Speaker 1: I know you've probably watched a little tape on him. 2148 01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:17,000 Speaker 1: What do you think I watched him actually quite a bit. 2149 01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:19,560 Speaker 1: I actually watched him this morning in detail. He was 2150 01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:23,000 Speaker 1: a fascinating guy. He's so much fun to watch because 2151 01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:29,600 Speaker 1: this guy has relentless competitiveness and energy. But it gets 2152 01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:31,880 Speaker 1: into what we were talking about before. I think he's 2153 01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,360 Speaker 1: great in the box. I think he has a great 2154 01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:39,240 Speaker 1: feel in the box, um, great play recognition, reaction quickness. 2155 01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,520 Speaker 1: This kid sees it and triggers. Now, I mean he 2156 01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,480 Speaker 1: doesn't mess around. He goes and he can he can 2157 01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:48,240 Speaker 1: get outside. He's got plus play speed and some range. 2158 01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,880 Speaker 1: But he's not a great athlete, and I don't believe 2159 01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,680 Speaker 1: he'll play in your sub, certainly not early in his career. 2160 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:57,600 Speaker 1: He will not play in your sub. So again, what 2161 01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:59,880 Speaker 1: kind of value now do you put on that kind 2162 01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:03,480 Speaker 1: of player? And it becomes a team and scheme thing. 2163 01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, Let's say you're a team that plays your 2164 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,360 Speaker 1: your base forty percent of the time, which would be 2165 01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,560 Speaker 1: high in the NFL. You might look at this kid 2166 01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:13,760 Speaker 1: differently than a team that you know plays in your 2167 01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,760 Speaker 1: base only twenty two percent of the time. But that's 2168 01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:20,200 Speaker 1: what he is. He's a box stack backer and he's 2169 01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:22,840 Speaker 1: really good at it, and he's so much fun to watch. 2170 01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:25,800 Speaker 1: And I guarantee coaches a want him in their room, 2171 01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,800 Speaker 1: the linebacker coach. But he just has limitations. So really 2172 01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:32,280 Speaker 1: good chance that this guy is a guy that goes 2173 01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:35,920 Speaker 1: somewhere on Day three and probably makes a roster as 2174 01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:39,160 Speaker 1: a special team or as a rookie, right for sure. 2175 01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:40,920 Speaker 1: And you know what, he might play in the league 2176 01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:42,760 Speaker 1: for ten years if you have to put him out 2177 01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,880 Speaker 1: there because of the way in which he plays. The 2178 01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,400 Speaker 1: way in which he plays tells me that it's very 2179 01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,320 Speaker 1: important to him and that he works at it. And 2180 01:58:49,360 --> 01:58:50,880 Speaker 1: if you had to put him out there, you could 2181 01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:53,880 Speaker 1: put him out there. You know, he just might not 2182 01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,960 Speaker 1: be exactly what you want athletically, but you could put 2183 01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,400 Speaker 1: this kid out there. Yeah, that's that's a There's a 2184 01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,280 Speaker 1: lot of guys, me being one of them, a lot 2185 01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,520 Speaker 1: of guys who made a living in had a pretty 2186 01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:08,600 Speaker 1: good career just exceeding everyday expectations, you know what I mean. 2187 01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,400 Speaker 1: There's more guys like that than Jim and Davis. I mean, 2188 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:16,880 Speaker 1: it's just that's the way it is, That's right, you know. Yeah, Well, Greg, 2189 01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:18,440 Speaker 1: we are at a time, but we thank you for 2190 01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:21,160 Speaker 1: breaking down. Some of these linebackers will catch up with 2191 01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,640 Speaker 1: you next week as the draft is fast approaching for 2192 01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:29,040 Speaker 1: the next position group. We appreciate it as always. All right, guys, 2193 01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,800 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks so much and give long hard consideration 2194 01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:35,920 Speaker 1: to task or three point zero. There you go. That 2195 01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:38,680 Speaker 1: is Greg co Sell from NFL Films helping us out 2196 01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:41,640 Speaker 1: with the linebacker class this year. Yeah. Isaiah mcduffee, for 2197 01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:43,400 Speaker 1: those of you that don't know, went to Bennett High 2198 01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,760 Speaker 1: School here in Buffalo, played up at Boston College, and 2199 01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:50,520 Speaker 1: he's projected as a fourth to fifth round selection. A 2200 01:59:50,520 --> 01:59:53,200 Speaker 1: lot of people were saying that he was going to 2201 01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:56,200 Speaker 1: have to test well to boost his draft stock and 2202 01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:59,240 Speaker 1: convince more NFL clubs that he's worth the investment. Early 2203 01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:02,160 Speaker 1: on Day three, ran a four to five eighth, So 2204 02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:06,880 Speaker 1: that's not bad at the linebacker position. So he ran 2205 02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:10,040 Speaker 1: a four or five eight at six one, two hundred 2206 02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:12,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven pounds. I think the problem there is he's 2207 02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:16,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the length that people look for nowadays 2208 02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:18,520 Speaker 1: that linebacker, especially knowing that they're going to be in 2209 02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:21,120 Speaker 1: pass coverage. His arms are only thirty and one quarter 2210 02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:23,720 Speaker 1: inches and you want to get hands in the passing lanes. 2211 02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, you talk about a guy like a Wusu Coromoa, 2212 02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Zaven Collins. These guys have thirty three inch arms, thirty 2213 02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:33,160 Speaker 1: three and five eights. I mean, you say, wow, what's 2214 02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the huge difference. But when you got a six five 2215 02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:37,520 Speaker 1: guy with almost thirty four inch arms, he's kind of 2216 02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:39,600 Speaker 1: like tremayin Edmonds. He's gonna get hands in the passing 2217 02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:41,640 Speaker 1: lanes and make life difficult for a quarterback trying to 2218 02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:43,520 Speaker 1: throw a ball over the middle. Right. And yeah, it's 2219 02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:48,240 Speaker 1: it's about certainly they can see and like Greg Greg 2220 02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Cosell said, you can see the competitive fire and these 2221 02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:52,840 Speaker 1: guys when you watch him on film, you watch him 2222 02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:55,960 Speaker 1: battle away from the ball, You watch him a little 2223 02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,120 Speaker 1: bit between plays and after the play and what before 2224 02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:01,880 Speaker 1: the play. You watch how their teammates react to them. 2225 02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:04,680 Speaker 1: You get an idea of what they think about him. 2226 02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:07,080 Speaker 1: And you can just see the attitude with which they 2227 02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:10,480 Speaker 1: play when they take, when they accept contact, when they 2228 02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:13,960 Speaker 1: when they pass out contact. You get an idea of 2229 02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:16,640 Speaker 1: how gritty they are. And I we use that word. 2230 02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying not trying to be you know, weird, but 2231 02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:22,480 Speaker 1: you know how much it means to them. So guys 2232 02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:28,200 Speaker 1: like that always tend to improve from where you get 2233 02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:31,480 Speaker 1: that when they start to when they finish on a team. 2234 02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:34,840 Speaker 1: And that's what pro coaches and scouts really want to 2235 02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:36,480 Speaker 1: get into. If you've got a big upside or a 2236 02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:39,920 Speaker 1: bigger upside, or if you if they know that you're 2237 02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,040 Speaker 1: into improvement, that you really kind of want that that 2238 02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:46,280 Speaker 1: you seek it, it goes a long way in the 2239 02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:48,840 Speaker 1: room because they know that you know, whatever they've got 2240 02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:52,320 Speaker 1: you at, you're gonna get better, and let's face it, 2241 02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,000 Speaker 1: in the butt. They just don't want to be embarrassed 2242 02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:55,720 Speaker 1: by a fifth round pick or a sixth round pick, 2243 02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:57,960 Speaker 1: you're even a seventh round pick. They want somebody who 2244 02:01:58,040 --> 02:01:59,520 Speaker 1: can at least compete, and they know they'll get a 2245 02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,920 Speaker 1: guy who'll do that. Break time for us. When we 2246 02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:04,200 Speaker 1: come back, we dip back in one more time to 2247 02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:07,640 Speaker 1: the OBL fan mail bag to answer more of your questions. Next, 2248 02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:10,000 Speaker 1: you're on one Bill's Live presented by Kalaida Health. It's 2249 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:26,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Well, we will get to the OBL 2250 02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:29,920 Speaker 1: fan mail bag in due course, but I neglected to 2251 02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:34,200 Speaker 1: mention Steve. It is the latest edition of Tasker's teammate 2252 02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:37,880 Speaker 1: coming her way right now. Tasker's teammate has always brought 2253 02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:40,680 Speaker 1: to you by Wegman's Meals to Go, Delicious meals delivered. 2254 02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Download the Wegman's app today, Steve Tasker, Are you ready? 2255 02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:48,760 Speaker 1: I am so ready? Clue number one. Born in Los 2256 02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Angeles in nineteen sixty seven. I was taught the game 2257 02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:56,440 Speaker 1: of football by my mother, who was an accomplished middle 2258 02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:00,400 Speaker 1: linebacker as a Women's National Football League player for the 2259 02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:03,480 Speaker 1: La Dandelions, and she was known for once breaking an 2260 02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:07,880 Speaker 1: opponent's helmet in a game. Marcas Patton Marvcus Patton is 2261 02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:11,680 Speaker 1: one hundred percent correct. Steve Tasker, well done. I was 2262 02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:14,360 Speaker 1: worried that might give it away, but I said, I said, 2263 02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:17,960 Speaker 1: this is such a unique clue. Godelions, the La Dandelions. 2264 02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:20,800 Speaker 1: That was a big deal. We were all like, what, Yeah, 2265 02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:25,320 Speaker 1: that's cool, broken opponents helmet in a game. So was 2266 02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:29,440 Speaker 1: her son good one too? Yeah? Um played his college 2267 02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:34,120 Speaker 1: ball at UCLA. Went there on an academic scholarship, was 2268 02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:39,480 Speaker 1: a walk on as a player and did not start 2269 02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:43,960 Speaker 1: until his senior year. Marvcus Patton was as imposing a 2270 02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:46,360 Speaker 1: physical specimen as I ever played. Oh I saw him 2271 02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:49,000 Speaker 1: in the locker room without his shirt on. That dude 2272 02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:54,520 Speaker 1: was he had muscles on top of them all. He was. Yeah, 2273 02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:57,160 Speaker 1: he was a great guy, great dude. He his rookie 2274 02:03:57,200 --> 02:03:59,400 Speaker 1: year was nineteen ninety and he was on special teams, 2275 02:03:59,480 --> 02:04:02,760 Speaker 1: special teams and worked his way into the starting lineup 2276 02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:08,440 Speaker 1: for US and was just a great, really smart player. 2277 02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:13,080 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I love that. I had really fond memories 2278 02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:14,400 Speaker 1: of him. Played for a couple of different teams. I 2279 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:16,840 Speaker 1: think he played for Washington Kansas City. Went to Washington 2280 02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:19,360 Speaker 1: after here and then went to Kansas City after that, 2281 02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:22,760 Speaker 1: basically played four years in each place. Yeah, he played 2282 02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:25,360 Speaker 1: four four and four four Super Bowls in Buffalo, right, 2283 02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:28,400 Speaker 1: missed the first one because in the first playoff game 2284 02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:31,040 Speaker 1: against Miami he got injured on the opening kickoff. Did 2285 02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:34,200 Speaker 1: he remember that lower leg injury on the opening kickoff 2286 02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:37,160 Speaker 1: and missed the rest of the postseason. Oh wow, maybe 2287 02:04:37,200 --> 02:04:40,520 Speaker 1: would have one of him. He was he, Yeah, he 2288 02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:42,400 Speaker 1: was he And he was the same year as Al 2289 02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Edwards and those guys didn't missed another game after that. Yeah, 2290 02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:49,560 Speaker 1: he was. It really felt like you could take a 2291 02:04:49,560 --> 02:04:51,680 Speaker 1: big swing with a Louisville slugger and it wouldn't even 2292 02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:53,760 Speaker 1: he wouldn't like to break the bat. Yeah'd break the bat. 2293 02:04:53,880 --> 02:04:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, just one of those guys he was. That 2294 02:04:56,520 --> 02:05:01,400 Speaker 1: dude was awesome. Just to provide an update on Marka's 2295 02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:04,520 Speaker 1: patent and what he's doing now. He lives in the 2296 02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:10,000 Speaker 1: DC area. His wife is a doctor, so there so 2297 02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:12,600 Speaker 1: if you thought he was smart, his wife might be 2298 02:05:12,640 --> 02:05:16,160 Speaker 1: even smarter. Very nice um. And he's a restaurant tour 2299 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:20,280 Speaker 1: own sports themed restaurant. And thought when he was Northern Virginia, 2300 02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:21,880 Speaker 1: he thought when he's playing, when he was playing, he 2301 02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:27,800 Speaker 1: might get into personal training. And I think, I don't know, 2302 02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:29,800 Speaker 1: maybe he's like me. I like he'd be his own 2303 02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:34,000 Speaker 1: best billboard if he did that right. And maybe the 2304 02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:36,160 Speaker 1: restaurant tour thing, maybe we get him on if we 2305 02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:37,640 Speaker 1: got him on the phone, he maybe maybe he's up 2306 02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:40,200 Speaker 1: to three bills or something restaurant tour. I don't know. 2307 02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:42,600 Speaker 1: I kind of pampling his own, right, I don't know. Yeah, 2308 02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:45,480 Speaker 1: tremendous guy, but one he if you walk into a 2309 02:05:45,480 --> 02:05:47,600 Speaker 1: place you see Mark, if Marvicus is a doorman, you're 2310 02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:49,640 Speaker 1: not You're not like can I you're asking him if 2311 02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:51,600 Speaker 1: you can come in? Yeah? You know, you don't just like, 2312 02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:56,600 Speaker 1: excuse me, he's he is imposing. Oh my gosh, Marvca's 2313 02:05:56,640 --> 02:06:01,960 Speaker 1: patent was an absolute monster. Yeah, played inside line sweetheart 2314 02:06:01,960 --> 02:06:04,240 Speaker 1: of a guy, a three four scheme, sweetheart a guy, 2315 02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:06,680 Speaker 1: A great sense of humor, great locker room guy, just tremendous. 2316 02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:09,040 Speaker 1: You know, he's an academic, you know, academic. He was 2317 02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:12,440 Speaker 1: an academic, so he was three times smart guy and 2318 02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:17,480 Speaker 1: just yeah, just one of those things. Yeah, some guys 2319 02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:21,120 Speaker 1: are like that. He's a big, huge, powerful, good looking 2320 02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:24,840 Speaker 1: guy and he's also smart. Yeah he ums me out 2321 02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:26,680 Speaker 1: because I got stuck with what I got stuck with. 2322 02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:32,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, he Uh. He had an interesting college career because, 2323 02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:34,640 Speaker 1: like I said, he was a walk on at UCLA 2324 02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:39,160 Speaker 1: and then didn't become a starter for the Bruins until 2325 02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:42,520 Speaker 1: his senior year and then gets honorable mention All American Honors, 2326 02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:45,720 Speaker 1: which kind of gets him on the draft radar. But 2327 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,280 Speaker 1: even then he still doesn't go until the eighth round. 2328 02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:50,040 Speaker 1: Bills took him in the eighth round in the nineteen 2329 02:06:50,120 --> 02:06:52,920 Speaker 1: ninety draft, and you know, two years later he's a 2330 02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:55,200 Speaker 1: starter on a super Bowl team. Yeah, you know, in 2331 02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:57,240 Speaker 1: ninety three and ninety four he started for you guys, 2332 02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:59,840 Speaker 1: an inside linebacker in that three four scheme. But he 2333 02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:04,120 Speaker 1: degree was in political science, so it's not like this 2334 02:07:04,160 --> 02:07:07,640 Speaker 1: guy was taking hen season washing horse. You know, yeah, 2335 02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:13,200 Speaker 1: political science major and his wife's a doctor. Why goodness, UM, 2336 02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:16,480 Speaker 1: I wonder what's talking about learned his family? Is that 2337 02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:19,120 Speaker 1: what success looks like? Because I think you and I 2338 02:07:19,160 --> 02:07:21,000 Speaker 1: are sitting around, I don't know what we're doing. That 2339 02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:25,600 Speaker 1: sounds really neat. I feel horribly inadequate after talking about 2340 02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:30,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Patton. Um, but good job by you, Steve first guest, Yes, winner. 2341 02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:32,560 Speaker 1: The It took me a minute because I knew I 2342 02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:35,240 Speaker 1: had to sift through because I remember that really rang 2343 02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:38,360 Speaker 1: a bell that. Um, somebody's mom was a linebacker and 2344 02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:44,400 Speaker 1: a female football league out in California's mom Barbara Barbara Patton. Yeah, 2345 02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:48,360 Speaker 1: killer middle linebacker for the La Dandelions. Who knew the 2346 02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:51,520 Speaker 1: stuff you uncover on task? Your teammate? Yeah, how about 2347 02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:55,160 Speaker 1: that good stuff? That's been a good one. Let's get 2348 02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:57,600 Speaker 1: to uh the OBL fan mail band. We had a 2349 02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:59,840 Speaker 1: couple more questions lingering there, and I didn't want an 2350 02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,920 Speaker 1: elect them, So we will go back to the fan 2351 02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:07,520 Speaker 1: mail bag and we'll pull this one out from Anthony. 2352 02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,480 Speaker 1: What are the odds of the Bills moving up in 2353 02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:12,879 Speaker 1: the draft for one or more of the premier corners 2354 02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,160 Speaker 1: or edge guys. Yeah, Steve and I have had this discussion. 2355 02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:18,360 Speaker 1: It's a three way coin flip. They're either going to 2356 02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:22,840 Speaker 1: trade up, trade back, but or they or pick where 2357 02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:25,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna pick and but your edge or CB guy, 2358 02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:27,640 Speaker 1: that's who both Brownie and I think they're gonna grab 2359 02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:30,240 Speaker 1: as a corner or an edge. Yeah, I think that's 2360 02:08:30,240 --> 02:08:34,160 Speaker 1: the guy. I don't think anyone should anticipate a big 2361 02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:37,480 Speaker 1: move up, and by big, I mean anything more than 2362 02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:40,920 Speaker 1: a half a dozen spots that would be getting any 2363 02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:43,960 Speaker 1: higher than twenty four. Can you It's too costly if 2364 02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:49,240 Speaker 1: they do. The only the wild card in a statement 2365 02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:51,800 Speaker 1: like that is this there could be like if they're 2366 02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:56,120 Speaker 1: talking to say Philly or Dallas or whoever is up there. 2367 02:08:56,120 --> 02:08:57,800 Speaker 1: But I don't even I'm picking those names out of 2368 02:08:57,840 --> 02:08:59,520 Speaker 1: the air. The you know, the four or five teams 2369 02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:02,720 Speaker 1: right ahead the Bills, you got the Jets at twenty two, 2370 02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:04,320 Speaker 1: they're out. They're not gonna do it in the division 2371 02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:06,400 Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, the Titans at twenty two, the Jets 2372 02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:08,640 Speaker 1: at twenty three, the Steelers at twenty four, the Jags 2373 02:09:08,640 --> 02:09:12,520 Speaker 1: at twenty five. Right, So any of those four teams 2374 02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:16,600 Speaker 1: and you don't want to give up draft capital or 2375 02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:18,160 Speaker 1: anything that, but you never know that they may say, 2376 02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:20,120 Speaker 1: give us a seventh round pick or a sixth round 2377 02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:24,760 Speaker 1: pick and we want that guy off your roster and 2378 02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:26,800 Speaker 1: the Bills are going this guy and they're on, Yeah, 2379 02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:29,240 Speaker 1: they get done. That kind of thing. They'd have to 2380 02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:30,920 Speaker 1: probably roll in a player if they don't want to 2381 02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,760 Speaker 1: part with draft You rarely see that anymore. It's not 2382 02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,720 Speaker 1: often you see it. Could that could happen because the 2383 02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:40,040 Speaker 1: draft capital would be too expensive. Yeah, I'd have to 2384 02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:42,560 Speaker 1: look it up, but I think the last player trade 2385 02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:46,000 Speaker 1: for the Bills on draft weekend was Stevie Johnson in 2386 02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:50,680 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. They traded him in on Day three of 2387 02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:53,320 Speaker 1: the draft for a fourth round pick and something else 2388 02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:55,840 Speaker 1: to San Francisco. And that was the draft that they 2389 02:09:55,920 --> 02:10:00,160 Speaker 1: grabbed Sammy Watkins. And we know that Doug Moroni in 2390 02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:03,640 Speaker 1: a fan of Stevie's freelancing on the field with his 2391 02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:06,400 Speaker 1: route running in which Chan allowed him to do. The 2392 02:10:06,440 --> 02:10:09,560 Speaker 1: previous coach, right, they well, you Chan is a really 2393 02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:12,560 Speaker 1: good coach and he's like, listen, just get it. Done. 2394 02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:15,760 Speaker 1: What what we're talking about. When you say freelancing is wide, 2395 02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't if it's ever been explained. What would happen? 2396 02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:22,680 Speaker 1: Is you call a route and I've done it, everybody's 2397 02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:25,520 Speaker 1: done it, particul you know, in practice or whatever. You 2398 02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:28,040 Speaker 1: have this mental clock. You know you're gonna go. You're 2399 02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:29,840 Speaker 1: gonna run up this. You know can run up twelve 2400 02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:31,920 Speaker 1: yards and speed cut to the sideline. The ball is 2401 02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:34,640 Speaker 1: gonna be on the way or you're gonna be. It's 2402 02:10:34,640 --> 02:10:36,200 Speaker 1: an eight yard route on a hook, and this and 2403 02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:38,320 Speaker 1: that and the end. You've got a clock in your 2404 02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:40,240 Speaker 1: head that tells you where you've got to be and 2405 02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:44,920 Speaker 1: how fast you've got to get there. And with a 2406 02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:48,920 Speaker 1: guy like Fits and Stevie Fits, you said, just get 2407 02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:51,000 Speaker 1: to the spot. I don't, I won't. I'm not looking 2408 02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:53,120 Speaker 1: at you anyway. Fits is smart enough to do that. 2409 02:10:53,200 --> 02:10:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it to you when you're there. But 2410 02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:56,720 Speaker 1: you can get there anyway you want. I don't care 2411 02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:59,560 Speaker 1: if you run an inn rather than an out. As 2412 02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:02,000 Speaker 1: long as you to that spot on the field and 2413 02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:04,800 Speaker 1: are there on time that kind and get be there alone. 2414 02:11:05,120 --> 02:11:07,880 Speaker 1: You know, we get open. That's what you're talking about. 2415 02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Freelancing a guy who can get open, but he uses 2416 02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:14,560 Speaker 1: the defensive backs knowledge about what routes a guy runs 2417 02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:16,800 Speaker 1: against them. He thinks they're gonna run this, he runs 2418 02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:19,320 Speaker 1: something else. So that's when he's treated it like a 2419 02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:21,960 Speaker 1: one on one basketball game. That's exact, taking big guys 2420 02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:25,040 Speaker 1: at the line, and no two routes were the same exactly. 2421 02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:27,680 Speaker 1: That's why he's the only Bills receiver and in team 2422 02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:30,960 Speaker 1: history to have three consecutive one thousand yards seasons. That's right, 2423 02:11:31,080 --> 02:11:34,560 Speaker 1: so amazing stuff. All right, that's the obl fan mail bag. 2424 02:11:34,920 --> 02:11:36,920 Speaker 1: We thank you for sending in your question. Sorry for 2425 02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:39,320 Speaker 1: those who we could not get to. Steve and I 2426 02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:41,000 Speaker 1: got to find out what the heck we learned from 2427 02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:43,280 Speaker 1: today's show. When we come back here on one Bill's Live, 2428 02:11:43,320 --> 02:12:00,680 Speaker 1: presented by Collat of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. What 2429 02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:03,360 Speaker 1: have we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official 2430 02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:06,680 Speaker 1: construction equipment rental company in the Buffalo Bills, and we've 2431 02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:11,040 Speaker 1: learned this from NFL Networks, Tom Pellicero. The Ravens have 2432 02:12:11,080 --> 02:12:14,520 Speaker 1: withdrawn their proposal to add an eighth official off the field, 2433 02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:19,040 Speaker 1: aka the sky Judge. But apparently the competition Committee's proposal 2434 02:12:19,120 --> 02:12:23,880 Speaker 1: for expanded booth to official communication with video has strong 2435 02:12:23,960 --> 02:12:27,560 Speaker 1: support among coaches and is likely to pass next week, 2436 02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:32,000 Speaker 1: according to league sources. How about that. I want to 2437 02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,760 Speaker 1: see what that looks like, because it sounds good to me. 2438 02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Streamlined things, get more things just right the way it reads, 2439 02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:45,720 Speaker 1: the way it reads. Article nine Instant replay Game administration. 2440 02:12:45,760 --> 02:12:48,800 Speaker 1: The replay official and designated members of the officiating Department 2441 02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:52,160 Speaker 1: may consult with on field officials or conduct a replay review, 2442 02:12:52,400 --> 02:12:57,200 Speaker 1: or advise the game officials on specific objective aspects of 2443 02:12:57,200 --> 02:12:59,960 Speaker 1: a play where clear and obvious video evidence is president, 2444 02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:05,520 Speaker 1: and or to address game administration issues, including but not 2445 02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:10,440 Speaker 1: limited to, penalty enforcement, proper down, spot of a foul, 2446 02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:15,640 Speaker 1: game clock, possession, completed or intercepted pass, touching of a 2447 02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:18,520 Speaker 1: loose ball, boundary line, goal line or end line, location 2448 02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:20,320 Speaker 1: of the football or a player in relation to the 2449 02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:22,440 Speaker 1: boundary line, the line of scrimmage, is your head spinning 2450 02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:24,920 Speaker 1: yet the line to gain or the goal line? Or 2451 02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:27,440 Speaker 1: down by contact when a player is not ruled down 2452 02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:32,080 Speaker 1: by contact on the field, so you can call down 2453 02:13:32,120 --> 02:13:34,840 Speaker 1: and say he's down by contact if it wasn't ruled 2454 02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:37,440 Speaker 1: on the field, right that used to be out of 2455 02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:40,840 Speaker 1: bound time. That's a lot of stuff. I think it's 2456 02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:43,520 Speaker 1: anything that happens on that play that they might have 2457 02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:47,720 Speaker 1: missed that would have stopped the play, you know what 2458 02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, that's big. I can't wait to see 2459 02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:55,280 Speaker 1: what that looks. And there's also this. Nothing in this 2460 02:13:55,440 --> 02:13:57,960 Speaker 1: article precludes a head coach or a replay official from 2461 02:13:57,960 --> 02:14:02,360 Speaker 1: institute initiating a challenge or review otherwise allowed under Rule fifteen. 2462 02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:04,919 Speaker 1: All right, so the coaches would still have their challenges 2463 02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:08,040 Speaker 1: too today. Right now, the way you said that, I 2464 02:14:08,160 --> 02:14:10,240 Speaker 1: like it. Okay, I may change my mind when I 2465 02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:13,440 Speaker 1: see it in preseason, but right now, that sounds good 2466 02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:15,440 Speaker 1: to me. Let's go with that. Everybody, have a good weekend. 2467 02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:26,920 Speaker 1: We'll see him Monday with more draft coverage.