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Speaker 1: there is that culture. Yes, goodness wow, Lost Culture ding dong,

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Speaker 2: I'm just over here, you know, masticating on my trail mix.

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Speaker 2: And we're very happy to have you guys masticate us

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Speaker 2: in this bonus episode, just a.

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Speaker 3: Little early, I guess, a little bonus episode. There was

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Speaker 3: to address. One being We just recorded the categories for

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Speaker 3: the Lost Culture Raceless Culture Awards this year and those

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Speaker 3: will be revealed on May third, May third, this Friday, Friday,

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Speaker 3: May third, and publish the season, I guess has truly begun.

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Speaker 2: May is published season. The weather's nice. You want to

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Speaker 2: It's actually a real culture number nine. Get your free

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Speaker 2: flag out, flag it. It's published the season.

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Speaker 3: We are You're never gonna believe it, but giggling and

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Speaker 3: tittling away, we think we've really done something this year

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Speaker 3: with some of these categories. I mean, I'm thinking of

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Speaker 3: But we can't say too much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost too exciting, I would agree. I

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Speaker 3: We're out there. Lost culture is officially out there. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so listen, the true truth, the true true, as was

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Speaker 3: Did I think you would actually like it in a

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Speaker 2: Second of all, like it's so it's it feels like

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Speaker 3: Your body experience is so much joy it has to

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Speaker 3: No, if you ever want to get him on, just

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Speaker 3: If you love the ending, it's gonna be canon for you,

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Speaker 1: Just really interesting. And I want more movies like that.

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Speaker 1: The triangles back to. It's the year of the threesome,

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Speaker 3: Of the weird relationship between three people.

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Speaker 3: No, if anyone out there has instincts, follow them destroy

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Speaker 3: I think what's so fucking great about this movie is

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Speaker 2: The match point of it is like so perfect, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 2: I do love that Tashi character, like literally loving launching

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Speaker 2: That is a Blood Orange music video literally like Blood

441
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: Orange is playing in the background like diegetically, like playing

442
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: from someone's phone. And so Josh Sharp says, well, that

443
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 2: song came out in twenty in twenty thirteen, so eighteen

444
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 2: years later, the movie takes place in the present day

445
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: of twenty thirty one. Oh my god, yeah, he caught

446
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: a little get caught that said, oh, you know, what's

447
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 2: great about that scene too, like that when they start

448
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 2: hooking up altogether, is.

449
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 3: It's literally born out of a conversation that we watch happen.

450
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 3: It's like, what's so great about that scene is you

451
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 3: understand why it goes there because they've just had this

452
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: conversation that's really disarming and charming.

453
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 2: Yes, and sexy, and but she plays that so like

454
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 2: the genius. She's getting them to say all of these

455
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: really kind of embarrassing things they're sharing. They're sharing stories

456
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: about the first time they've like jerked off and stuff.

457
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: It's like she's getting them. She's perfect.

458
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: She has this ferocity where she gets them to like

459
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: spill and then she like the puppet strings are there

460
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: from the beginning.

461
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: Yes, And what is so different about that than other

462
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: things that get sort of like, you know, this reputation

463
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,239
Speaker 3: for being like salacious or like whatever is It's like

464
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: you're not just walking someone walk up to someone in

465
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: a backyard and then.

466
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: Eating their pussy. They're on their period, right, know what

467
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean?

468
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 3: Like you're actually like watching why this unfold and it's believable,

469
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: Like it's not just this stunty thing of like, oh,

470
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 3: he's fucking a grave not to keep dragging this movie.

471
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: But this is why, this is why the script really matters,

472
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 3: is because we're seeing it executed in a way that's

473
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 3: born out of character, and therefore we actually are scandalized

474
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: and actually we can remember this in a real way,

475
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: in a way that can emotionally.

476
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: Work for us.

477
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: Speaking of character, because I've heard you say this and

478
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: I really think around to something talk about how even

479
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: the quote unquote minor characters in this film are so impactful,

480
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: Sean you remember them.

481
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: It's all in the details, all the details.

482
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: It's all the performances, down to the woman who like

483
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: registers Josh O'Connor.

484
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a detail about everyone. Yeah, and this is

485
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's like, so in the.

486
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: Very first the gay couple at the hotel, there's a

487
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: gay couple in a hotel who have like a hilarious

488
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 2: like two line exchange and there's something that like one

489
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: of them the other on the back and the sound editing.

490
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: You really hear the slash, which is so funny to me,

491
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: Like for example, like there's a woman who's checking him

492
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: into the one of the actors, one of the characters

493
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: rather into the tennis tournament, and it's about a million

494
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: other things just besides that transaction that's a guess.

495
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is totally there is.

496
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: So much color and detail and the director doesn't cut

497
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: any of it. I understand sometimes why you just want

498
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: to get to information in movies, like and things should move,

499
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: but information, character and detail matters.

500
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: It's like kind of like why they say, like.

501
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: In a romantic movie, spend time on us watching them

502
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 3: fall in love, you know what I mean, don't just

503
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: be like they met there in a relationship. Honestly, there's

504
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: movies I could drag that do this, but I won't

505
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 3: detail matters like relationship matters, like things that you might

506
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: deem as superfluous because they're not quote unquote moving story forward.

507
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 3: Like we didn't need to watch the woman that worked

508
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 3: at the hotel struggle with the snack machine.

509
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: What do you call that? Oh yeah, the vending machine.

510
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: Like we didn't need that, but like it did help.

511
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 3: We watched the interaction and he couldn't get a room,

512
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, I don't know, it's

513
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: just little things. The character of the year for me

514
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: is Helen. Helen's a Tinder date that Josh O'Connor goes

515
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: on and.

516
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: It's from the moment you see here on the phone

517
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: screen Haley Gates.

518
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: Haley Gates, we went to college with her. I was

519
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: so shook when I realized it was her.

520
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she was it. I think that's the

521
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: comedy performance of the year.

522
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: We were screaming, laughing. It was just so funny.

523
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: It's so good, this performance of trying to be interesting

524
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: on a tinder date but you're not. Like and also

525
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: like where that scene ultimately goes again, this is another

526
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: character that's in one scene of the movie, maybe seven

527
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: lines of dialogue.

528
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: It's giving Sandra and the Princess diaries. Yes it is,

529
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: say it anyway, like, I mean, what else. The boys

530
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: are fucking amazing. Boys are amazing. Josh O'Connor would have

531
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: won the Melanie Lynsky Award for Best Fake American Accident

532
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: and anything.

533
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: Honestly teamless less. He's so talented, he's so good.

534
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: And Mike Feist I have been officially one over, like

535
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: I fucking loved in West Side Story. Now I'm like,

536
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm on board forever.

537
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: Huh. And also just like how comfortable they were with

538
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: each other.

539
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: You bought that best friendship from the beginning, and guess what,

540
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: because of the details and because of how much we

541
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 3: believed it in the beginning, that really helped when the

542
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: relationship got difficult and dark and nonexistent, Like because the

543
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 3: relationship details really matter, Like it matters how close they

544
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: sit together, it matters them sharing food, It matters like

545
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: how quickly they walk places together, like you know what

546
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Like the way that they sort of match

547
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: each other in energy, like laying back and like watching

548
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: her play tennis at the same time, like the way

549
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: they exist sharing a hotel room. You know, it's just

550
00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: so many things that are specific and great that are

551
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: to be loved about this movie.

552
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: And it's so fucking gay without trying, and it's so

553
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: fucking sexy without even really showing one exact sacccene. You

554
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: don't see any sex scenes, you see making out, you

555
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: see like the suggestions of something starting and you see

556
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: that something has ended. You don't see any fucking.

557
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: In this revie.

558
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: And it's still the horniest, hottest movie of the year

559
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: and the gayest something about it's not the gayest movie

560
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: of the year, but it's queer coded and fun in

561
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 3: that way.

562
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 2: We have to shout out Jonathan Anderson fucking slay in

563
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: the costume design. Oh yeah, I told your shirt. Zendeia's look.

564
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's all giving, like Josh's nasty plaid

565
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: shorts during the mask. Well, it's all giving, like slight

566
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: layer of Louive.

567
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: But that's it.

568
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: He's not gonna let Louive dominate this movie, you know

569
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 2: what I mean. Right, he's like such a good as sponsor. No,

570
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: but Jonathan Anderson is luave. Oh he's a leave guy.

571
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: Oh he Oh, I don't know that that's his. That's his,

572
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 2: that's his. Oh perfect, So he fucking he's so. I mean,

573
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: he's like the fashion designer right now, and like for

574
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: him to costume design for this in a way that

575
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: is that respects the medium. It is not like fashion

576
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: overtaking this except for that I told your shirt, which

577
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: is like everyone's gonna wear and I actually please everyone

578
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: wear that shirt.

579
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean they're on the way for us order them.

580
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: The thing that that shirt does in this movie is

581
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: so good that I'm like, I don't care. Everyone should

582
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: wear it. Like it's not a thing where I'm like,

583
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: oh god, like eye roll, like someone's wearing that. But

584
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: it's like, no, this is such a great subtle touch

585
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: in this movie that ends up being like a device.

586
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: But I think like the first time you see it,

587
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, whatever, random like random thing. I'm just

588
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 2: like just the costumes throughout so damn good. Loved it

589
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: so much.

590
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: The score. I need a DJ night of just the challenge.

591
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: Just play the Challenger score. We're bopping our heads.

592
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 3: I said I would go to I would go to

593
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: these parties if like they played that, like literally.

594
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 1: Spin challenges. If you want me to be at your event.

595
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: Bactasia should do a Challenger's theme, tie, I should do

596
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: a Challenger's boat like all Queer night Life should do

597
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: something with challengers.

598
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, get into the conversation too, because we're watching it happen.

599
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: We're watching something yet if something is here, to stay

600
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, you know what I mean. Syndeya, she's

601
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: so stunning. Yeah in a way that's just like you

602
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: genuinely could watch her experience anything like I would watch

603
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: her in any type of movie. I would watch her

604
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 3: like in any type of role. She's just fun to

605
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: watch the scene where she sits down at the tree.

606
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to give anything away. It was giving

607
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: like timeless movie Star. Oh yeah, it was giving, like

608
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: and also the way he was lighting her, because remember

609
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: this guy is like if you don't know now you

610
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: know he did call me by your name. He's so

611
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: great at like he just makes a choice that keeps

612
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: the movie stunning and beautiful but also never loses narrative

613
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: and catches a lot you know who I have it

614
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: also a compliment with.

615
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: This andrew On. Oh yeah, like the directors that like

616
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: put you in a pillow. Yeah. The movie that.

617
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: We were in Fire Island, I believe was very elevated

618
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: by the detail and the scope that it picked up

619
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: of the surroundings so that you were always aware of place.

620
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

621
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: And what I love about this movie so much too

622
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: is how much parking lot and making out there is.

623
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: I love the hotel culture, you know what I mean,

624
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 2: Like it's got this sense of real place when you

625
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: think about what these people actually must do, which is

626
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: they spend a fuck ton of time at hotels and

627
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: practicing and.

628
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: Like eating out on the road. Yeah, you know what

629
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: I mean, Like there's just so much like you don't

630
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: even know where these people live. It doesn't matter. Their

631
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: daughter is like an afterthought in a way that's kind.

632
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: Of fine, but in a way where you're also like,

633
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: the daughter is kind of you don't need that daughter

634
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: to be realized anymore than she is in the film

635
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: where it's like she wants to watch Spider Verse, Yes,

636
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: which I thought was also a cute Deeaier.

637
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: I liked it.

638
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: She loves Hotel. I love that detail, Like, yeah, the

639
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: daughter likes she feels safe there. That's what I'm talking about,

640
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: what I mean, Yes, and the mom just kind of

641
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: being around, Like you don't really like the mom's India

642
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: and Tasha don't need to have like a deep revealing conversation.

643
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: It says everything that she is there, that she is

644
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: like part of their lives in that specific way. Yeah,

645
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: where she's just there to a child, we are no problem,

646
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: do you know.

647
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: What I mean? One hundred percent.

648
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: And also I'm realizing now, like because there's a thing

649
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: with the mom where Joshua Connor says to Zendea, your

650
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: mom looks good, and Zendaea goes, I know she does, Patrick,

651
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: and I was just like, that is such an that's

652
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 3: a great line. It's like, I mean, Zendia has an

653
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: iconic line which is I'm taking such good care of my.

654
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: Little white boys.

655
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: I was like, not only is this movie tight structurally,

656
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: it's really fun of dialogue like things.

657
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 2: Just it doesn't feel bad. It doesn't feel written. No,

658
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't. And I would compliment obviously everyone involved for that.

659
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: But these actors are and I mean this in the

660
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: best sense throwing it away.

661
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: It is it is so lived in and earned. And

662
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: there's long scenes in this movie too, but they don't

663
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: feel long because of the pacing that the score brings

664
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: in and like, I don't know, it's and looking good

665
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: this motion in every scene.

666
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Not to mention cinematography where I didn't even feel like

667
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: it was that on the nose for the volleys to happen,

668
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? I get it, it's

669
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: a tennis movie, but it's like, but like the camera

670
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: moves are like are so pronounced, but they totally fit

671
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: with what's being said, with what the dynamic is. Look

672
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: in the scene like in the dorm between Joshun's and Deya. Yeah,

673
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: like that whole argument that it kind of devolves into,

674
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, that was perfect, Like, yeah, it came

675
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: in just the right time. It wasn't too indulgent. It

676
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: happened for like a couple seconds where it's clear the

677
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: audience by the way, one shot, by the way, I know,

678
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: I love that, but it's so clear to the audience,

679
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: like what's going on. It met the audience where it's at.

680
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: It doesn't try to like handhold too much. It also

681
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: doesn't try to like be so vaunted in an unreachable

682
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: place that you're like, oh, how do I engage with that?

683
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what I mean.

684
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the real crowd pleaser of a movie that

685
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: feels like so artistically lush and chewy or whatever.

686
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't need to be like a tennis

687
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: fan to enjoy it either, Like, in fact, if you

688
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: are a tennis fan, that's I guess where one criticism

689
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: I've heard is coming in is like, I guess the

690
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: tennis in the movie is not satisfying tennis people. I

691
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: had one person say to me who plays tennis all

692
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 3: the time, that zendais form was bothering him. And then

693
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: I had another person who plays tennis all the time

694
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: say that she had the best form, and I'm like,

695
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: I wish I want to use that at tennis, because

696
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: that just means one of the people that talk to

697
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: me sucks and if you're listening to this, you might suck.

698
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: Oh. I don't know, someone who's an ex experts should

699
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: weigh in, but yeah, yeah, apparently Josh's form was wild,

700
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: but I thought that worked.

701
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: That totally works with the canter.

702
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: I feel like Zendaya must have through a character filter,

703
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: must have put in the work to make sure that

704
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: Tashi's formally.

705
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: She said on Kelly Clarkson because Kelly was like, did

706
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: y'all become the best test player of all time? Because

707
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: I was watching this, like y'all can really play tennis,

708
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: and Zendia was like, I wish I could say I

709
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: was even adept at tennis, but apparently Ci, yeah, there

710
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: was never a real ball, and she was like, I

711
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: just looked at it like dance training. But what I

712
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: had heard was that Zendaia's forearm is is that it

713
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 3: comes from under too much, and that it's like she

714
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: needs to be on top of the ball a little

715
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: bit more. Is what one person said to me. But again,

716
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: that person could be one of tennis's worst players.

717
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh stop, But also, Zendia is working with some live limbs.

718
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: Live would be one word, and so of.

719
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: Course it's gonna look a little a little gangly isn't

720
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 2: the right word, but you know what I mean, Like

721
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: she's got the longest arms and legs ever.

722
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: Lithe would be one word to describe Somedia. It's actually

723
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: a really coloch number one hundred. Live would be one way,

724
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: one word to describe the day. So I'm feeling like maybe

725
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: it's pronounced that way, and so it kind of.

726
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Like limb shoes Winso.

727
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 3: Take a queen, it's your film. I can't wait for

728
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: that part of the movie. I really I sing it.

729
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I just literally gagged for a second.

730
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: I was just like, WHOA.

731
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: I do have a fantasy that, like the movie pivots

732
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: to your perspective and that you are the lead.

733
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: I think there is a Rosencranson, Gilden Sterner and Dead

734
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: sequel potential to Wicked where it's just there is it's

735
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: Fanny and Chuenchin sort of being like out in os

736
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: like when no, oh, this is the idea. It's Fanny

737
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: and Tension. Once Dorothy comes to Oz, like, everyone's like

738
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: a twitter, like, oh my god, this bitch just landed,

739
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: like she's I heard she's fears this bitch just and

740
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: it's like me and Shenshin. It's Fanny and Tenson just

741
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: like trying to look for Dorothy while she's and then

742
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: once they get to the Emerald City.

743
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: She's gone.

744
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's kind of like a waiting for you Goodjoe,

745
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: except we're like chasing after it.

746
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

747
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 3: No, that's really good. That's not bad, right, Oh, it's

748
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: actually art. Thank you much of what you just said

749
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: pretty much all the time. Wow, oh you know what?

750
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: We didn't do what? And we can do this for

751
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: the end of this episode, because how much more do

752
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: we have to say? I mean, everyone needs to go

753
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: see everyone needs to see it. Just go if you

754
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: haven't gone already. And also not for nothing, be like

755
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: me and go a second time because it's just as

756
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: good as time.

757
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: I know.

758
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it again. Bring your friend

759
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: that you love to watch react to stuff. You know

760
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: how oftentimes you have that like favorite person that you

761
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: love to see laugh first, or like react to something first,

762
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: or like that. Bring that person that you're excited about

763
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 3: seeing it to this movie period.

764
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: That's a great bit of advice. Yeah, because this is

765
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: this is one of those movies that you like feel okay.

766
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: So one thing we could do, because we forgot to do,

767
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: is pick out a new year for the next oh, excavation.

768
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: We don't have the bucket. But what we could do

769
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: is we could okay, random number generator, random number generator.

770
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: Oh wow, this doesn't app for everything. Minimum, So the

771
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 3: minimum is it was okay, so let's just say nineteen

772
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 3: seventy five to twenty twenty.

773
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: No, let's do nineteen seventy three to twenty twenty three. Okay, okay, okay,

774
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: that's okay, all right, generate ready, generate. Here we go,

775
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine. This is our first year that we've done.

776
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: That is before us being born.

777
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy Okay, so we're about to do some research.

778
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: This could be really fun for everybody in the class. Becca,

779
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: if there's time, could you make it just a little

780
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: a sour or starter of a document for us? Thank

781
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: you so much? Wow now, and then and then from

782
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: there we can disorder.

783
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: It's because bowen Yang is going to be very busy

784
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: May and June, and he forgets I'm not well.

785
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: No. I also respect your time and that you would

786
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: want to use your time the way you want to

787
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: use it.

788
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: And you've had a very busy winter.

789
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: And can I say when I say this stuff about

790
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 3: myself is bit about Bowen Yang being the busiest woman

791
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: in Hollywood and me like getting a tan. I am

792
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: just I'm not dragging my but the audience. But the

793
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: audience hears it and things, oh well, well, they they

794
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 3: must either think, oh ha, he's being funny, or like, lol,

795
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: I wish he wouldn't do that. That's what he's being

796
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: mean to himself, or they think flop fag.

797
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 2: We hate Matt Rogers. He's so annoying. I don't understand.

798
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: I don't want you to ever let that listen.

799
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: I completely respect all camps.

800
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: I don't completely respect all camps, but I completely acknowledge

801
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: that knowledge camp. Where I'm telling you you should be

802
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: is probably somewhere in between the business.

803
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: Are you worried about me?

804
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: Always?

805
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: But I'm fine. Anything else to say about Challenges, No,

806
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: I think it was the greatest film I've ever seen.

807
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, between Challengers in May December and past Las, we

808
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: just said that's a trifecta that should be studying.

809
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: The trifector have triangles.

810
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 3: I really like that, and I would actually I would

811
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: like to teach the college course.

812
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I would like to.

813
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: Teach a cultural and also on those three movies and

814
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 3: how they speak to each other, because you know what

815
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 3: gets unwieldy is if it's I'm literally doing a movie

816
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: that's this though, but it's of two couples, like Who's

817
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: Afraid of Virginia?

818
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: Wolf gets a little like I even though that is

819
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: like one of the great plays in great films, like

820
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: four is a little like it's tough to manage four? Right?

821
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Three is that ooh person? Is that beautiful? Three?

822
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: Is that good? Good? Number?

823
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: Three is really one of the numbers that but you

824
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: get to first when you start counting. Yes, if you

825
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 3: think about that one, two, three, you are already there.

826
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: You don't have to go far. Give it a couple numbers,

827
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: you'll get to three. You'll get there. Stick with it,

828
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: stick with it.

829
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: But you know that's why Brittany didn't call her song

830
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: four and Beyonce called it four, but for different reasons,

831
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: Brittany called it three.

832
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, I do want to say.

833
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: One of my favorite parts of the Renaissance Tour was

834
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: in the in the section where the theme is wedding.

835
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: As Matt Waker likes to say yeah before she sings

836
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: love on Top, or before she sings rather Die Young

837
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: or something. She just goes, y'all want to hear something

838
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: off my album four, and that's I love I love it.

839
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: I love hearing her say four.

840
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: I think it's her favorite.

841
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: At one of the shows, I could have sworn watching video,

842
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: I hear her say my favorite album four, and that

843
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: was really shocking. But maybe this has not actually been

844
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: documented and confirmed.

845
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: Well back in the day when she was like promoing

846
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 3: for she performed One plus one on American Idol and

847
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: she introduced it like this, this is my favorite song

848
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: one plus one. She said that, So I don't know

849
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: if one one one is still her favorite song. It's

850
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: up there, though. I love one plus one, love one

851
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: plus one. I'll never forget seeing one plus one's.

852
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: Cardis Show worlds her well.

853
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: Then end in Renaissance World tour was amazing. But I

854
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: saw it at the Roseland Ballroom when she was pregnant

855
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: and no one knew and Jay was there and she

856
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: was sitting on the piano and it was a really

857
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: small audience and she ripped it apart vocally, emotionally, just woo.

858
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: We had every episode with a song. Oh no, I

859
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: don't think it's Honey Out a bonus episode.

860
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: You're a ring on it, I'm won a ring on.

861
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: We didn't even do the dance.

862
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: It's okay.

863
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: It's first and foremost of the song Bye,