Speaker 1: Well, I just spent the weekend binge watching a bunch
Speaker 1: of episodes of Bling Empire. I saw it before, but
Speaker 1: I wanted to re see some of the things so
Speaker 1: I could get my head around some questions. I'm going
Speaker 1: to ask both Kim and Kelly um about what it
Speaker 1: must be like to be on this show. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I loved every minute of it, and I'm really looking
Speaker 1: forward to asking them questions. And hopefully I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be too nosy, but I have a lot of
Speaker 1: questions to ask. So here's my conversations with both Kim
Speaker 1: and Kelly. Hey, Kelly, Hi Babby, how are you? What
Speaker 1: a pleasure to meet you? First of all? Oh same here.
Speaker 1: First of all, your apartment or wherever you are is
Speaker 1: like you're out of a magazine. It's like so pretty.
Speaker 1: It's only because I just moved in and it's fully
Speaker 1: rend newly renovated. Give me a month, will be a mess.
Speaker 1: So now it looks good. We're just coming were a
Speaker 1: very busy family holiday and everybody here and I won't
Speaker 1: even you know, I found a wall that's quiet, so well, thanks.
Speaker 1: Well it's so nice to me too. I I you know,
Speaker 1: I started watching the show during the pandemic with my
Speaker 1: two daughter in laws, and then you know, life got
Speaker 1: busy and I binged watched again this weekend, and I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I loved it. I loved it. Good. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for a sunny time and supporting
Speaker 1: and watching us. That's so great. Hes a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a ton of questions, and I'll be really honest,
Speaker 1: I kind of I watched rewatched a bunch in the
Speaker 1: first and a bunch in the second, so I tried
Speaker 1: to get, you know, some information, and I have a
Speaker 1: lot of questions. But first of all, I noticed that
Speaker 1: you um, when you were ten, you moved from China
Speaker 1: to Chicago. I did when I was ten. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a big change for me. Where I'm from Chicago.
Speaker 1: I'm from the North North suburb will Met. Where did
Speaker 1: you move? I grew up? So when I first moved
Speaker 1: to Chicago, it was Atlantic and Bridgeport, which is where
Speaker 1: the White soxes on Round thirty five out the side
Speaker 1: of Chicago. And then we moved to Hansdale, Hangsdale. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you're familiar with this little suburb because
Speaker 1: they had the Hinds, they had the Hinsdale Health Center.
Speaker 1: I remember, okay, yeah we went. We went on a
Speaker 1: field trip there to learn about sex in seventh grade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how That's how I know Hinsdale. Yeah, one things
Speaker 1: a central Oh I didn't know this from Chicago. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, which kind of if you're from Chicago kind
Speaker 1: of sets the tone. It means, you know, you're pretty,
Speaker 1: like you got your feet in the ground and but
Speaker 1: here you are in the middle of this incredibly successful show.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it a scripted show or a reality show.
Speaker 1: It's like when you watch it, you just can't believe
Speaker 1: that it's actually reality. Yeah. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: time the funny, the funny things, a lot of things
Speaker 1: that like the penis pump people thought was planted, but
Speaker 1: it was it like, all that stuff is really organic.
Speaker 1: Same thing with you know, their necklace that the five
Speaker 1: with the Necklace season one, all that stuff was it
Speaker 1: was real, And you know, the camera's just happen to
Speaker 1: be there to capture off. But you must know that.
Speaker 1: You know, when you guys are living your life that
Speaker 1: someone's watching and I know this is basically your show.
Speaker 1: You you know, it was your idea, you got it
Speaker 1: off the ground. So tell me a little bit what
Speaker 1: that was like, being you know, an entrepreneur and starting this. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I never thought I will be on
Speaker 1: a reality show ever. If you told, if you told
Speaker 1: me just five years ago, I'm like, no, that's not happening. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think for me, I've always been very
Speaker 1: comfortable behind the cameras and I've always been, you know, entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I've always kind of, uh, my comfort space is by
Speaker 1: myself in front of my computer and getting hard work
Speaker 1: done and working with my team. So being on a
Speaker 1: reality show, I think first of all was it was
Speaker 1: a challenge for me to push me out of my
Speaker 1: comfort zone and boundaries. But I'm really happy I did it,
Speaker 1: and there's no regret on my part. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: getting to show off the ground by itself was such
Speaker 1: a big task. Like you know, you own a production,
Speaker 1: you do production as well. Every project takes so long
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of notes and until we finally
Speaker 1: got it, Yes, how many years did it take you?
Speaker 1: It took me a good three years. And then once
Speaker 1: even after we had you know, Netflix was interested. It's
Speaker 1: the pilot presentation. We had a film that it's a
Speaker 1: little process until we got Green Live for the full season.
Speaker 1: And did you ever go to college? I didn't. I
Speaker 1: dropped out. It was you started, I started. I dropped out.
Speaker 1: It was one of those things where my whole family
Speaker 1: are doctors and growing up in the Asian culture, it
Speaker 1: was very much like you know, study study, study, A
Speaker 1: minus is a failure. You know, you have to get
Speaker 1: an A plus. And um, I think was you know,
Speaker 1: it was my way to rebellow, my way to want
Speaker 1: to show my mom that there's other ways to be
Speaker 1: success for other than just be a doctor, a lawyer
Speaker 1: or engineer. So I packed two backs moved out to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles when I was twenty one. And at the
Speaker 1: time I told my mom, I said, oh, I'm just
Speaker 1: taking a year off because I didn't have to. I
Speaker 1: don't want to argue with her. And even that was
Speaker 1: it was a push. And uh, you know, I found
Speaker 1: my own way and I never went bad. It doesn't
Speaker 1: mean I don't think education is important. I think it's
Speaker 1: very very important. But I'm learning every single day through
Speaker 1: other forms than just school. Well, Chinese moms are not
Speaker 1: that different from Jewish moms, I think, and you know,
Speaker 1: I I have a Jewish mom. And I was really
Speaker 1: lucky because when I told my mom I was dropping out,
Speaker 1: she actually made me think about what I wanted to
Speaker 1: do with my life. And I chose makeup and I
Speaker 1: went to college for makeup, and I'm glad I did.
Speaker 1: But your path is so different, and you've achieved so
Speaker 1: much from you know, your young age, not knowing anything,
Speaker 1: like how did you? How do you? How do you
Speaker 1: do this? Like like what's your what's your superpower? I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it was really about learning from everyone that
Speaker 1: came in my life. Um, I think there's something unique
Speaker 1: about every person that comes to your life, and I learned.
Speaker 1: I try to learn as much as possible, keep an
Speaker 1: open mind. And also I'm always seeking knowledge, so reading
Speaker 1: books or even watching YouTube. Now with the Internet, it's
Speaker 1: incredible information that would get shared across the globe. So
Speaker 1: I try to spend my time to you know, just
Speaker 1: even even it's like thirty months a day to read
Speaker 1: or watch YouTube, listen to a podcast. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's my curiosity of never stopped learning. And
Speaker 1: also I think I get bored very easily, So I'm
Speaker 1: always wanting to learn new things. And my mom sacrificed
Speaker 1: so much for me by moving to the US and
Speaker 1: being a single mom, and uh, you know, raised me herself.
Speaker 1: So I think it was I had I don't have
Speaker 1: a I don't have a you know, I I don't
Speaker 1: have a like I can't fail, and then there's no
Speaker 1: backup plan for me. Um, you know, unlike a lot
Speaker 1: of my cast members, you know, they have trust funds
Speaker 1: that they can fall back on. I really don't, you know,
Speaker 1: So I only have there's really no choice for me
Speaker 1: other than keep going. Uh And did did your mom
Speaker 1: work when you were growing up? Oh? Yeah, she moved
Speaker 1: to the States to do anti cancer research at U
Speaker 1: i C at the time, you know, and then my
Speaker 1: dad and I moved here a year later, and uh,
Speaker 1: my dad was working really odd jobs. My mom was
Speaker 1: doing anti cancer research, but at the same time she
Speaker 1: was working at restaurants and doing a lot of labor
Speaker 1: intensive jobs, you know. And then my dad couldn't take
Speaker 1: it anymore, so he ended up moving back to China.
Speaker 1: And then he said he was gonna come back, which
Speaker 1: she never did. You know. I think like at that time,
Speaker 1: I if my dad actually stood up and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna work these weird odd jobs.
Speaker 1: Why don't you go do your because the other to
Speaker 1: do your residencies all over again. Um, you're for your
Speaker 1: medical degree if you want to be a doctor. Here.
Speaker 1: I wish he's like, let me take care of our like,
Speaker 1: our little our finance, our financial like everyday needs you
Speaker 1: go back to school or one of them. If they
Speaker 1: worked as a team, I think it would have been
Speaker 1: you know, our life would have been very different. But
Speaker 1: my mom just kept her head down and just kept
Speaker 1: working and raised me. And do you have a relationship
Speaker 1: with your dad now? They don't really. So we didn't
Speaker 1: really talk for ten years after he left, and when
Speaker 1: I was in my early twenties, I did reach out.
Speaker 1: I did see him in China, but it just you
Speaker 1: can't make up ten plus years of relationship. And also,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we're we're we're on each other's
Speaker 1: weed chat, which has like what'sapp and from China, so
Speaker 1: he can message me anytime, but he does it. So
Speaker 1: for me, I don't really feel like I have the
Speaker 1: need to build a relationship with somebody who doesn't try
Speaker 1: that hard. He sure knows how successful you are, so
Speaker 1: he has he has, he has not reached out. The
Speaker 1: show actually is very popular in China, even though Netflix
Speaker 1: is not, you know, they watch it off VPN or
Speaker 1: something like that. And how about your mom? How how
Speaker 1: does your mom feel about all this? I think she's
Speaker 1: enjoying it and it's finally kind of getting it. She's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a you know, you know, we kind of explored
Speaker 1: that a lot together afterwards, because after the show aired,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm it's all about pushing boundaries right now,
Speaker 1: and it really pushed me to challenge myself and how
Speaker 1: to build a better relationship with my mom because I
Speaker 1: think growing up the Tiger mom, you know, I the
Speaker 1: syntomes like nothing is ever good enough. So I think
Speaker 1: I became kind of closed off to her. Um, I
Speaker 1: didn't really open up a lot to her, and I
Speaker 1: think after the show aired, I tried my best to
Speaker 1: you know, after I start going to therapy, I I
Speaker 1: wanted to open up and speak to her more and
Speaker 1: communicate my emotions to her, which was never taught to
Speaker 1: me before. And now she's kind of she's kind of
Speaker 1: getting it. And then she's kind of um getting how
Speaker 1: my life is and be happy with and she's proud
Speaker 1: of me, which is she told me she's proud of
Speaker 1: me for the first time ever last year and I'm like, what, like,
Speaker 1: you know, and she told me she loves like like
Speaker 1: I love you. The word I love you. These words
Speaker 1: are so simple and so common in the Western culture,
Speaker 1: but it's not very in the Chinese culture. Now then,
Speaker 1: is I'm really really sweet? Have you done something special
Speaker 1: for your mom? Like how have you treated her where
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have been able to a worded before? Yeah? I, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I try to spoil her as much as
Speaker 1: I possibly can, you know, um, But I think for
Speaker 1: her a lot of it is quality time and spending
Speaker 1: time with me. So we just got back from a
Speaker 1: cruise for her birthday and we did five nights um
Speaker 1: on the new Virsion cruise all around Miami the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: So I think that was really nicer and I make
Speaker 1: an effort to spend her birthday with her every year.
Speaker 1: Well what is it like for you on this show
Speaker 1: with people that were raised so differently and come from
Speaker 1: just you know, the amount of money. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of very successful friends and people
Speaker 1: in my life. When I see what everyone is doing,
Speaker 1: like you go to let's go to dinner. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: in Paris at this suite, and you know, it's like
Speaker 1: it's mind blowing. So what's the one of the funny
Speaker 1: things that they actually cut out from the show. It
Speaker 1: did show So as a surprise for my birthday to Paris,
Speaker 1: Anna actually shut down the palace of her side. So
Speaker 1: we had a call polite private store of palace of
Speaker 1: her size and you know that was pretty insane. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, but I think in the day, like the
Speaker 1: great thing about this cast and most of them, like
Speaker 1: Anna's actually pretty down to earth like she seems it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she lives in her own world, but she's actually pretty like,
Speaker 1: you know, down to earth. Um. And then you know,
Speaker 1: Kinge's one of my best friends. We've been friends for
Speaker 1: over ten years and I'm almost ten years. And then, uh,
Speaker 1: his family is so grandfriends with his you know, I
Speaker 1: just was just thing before having dinner at his family,
Speaker 1: his house with his parents. But I think, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of them, they're still very grounded. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: all seem incredibly nice. And I know, and I you know,
Speaker 1: from the little I know about you, that's important to you,
Speaker 1: you know, being around really nice people. And I have
Speaker 1: to say, I'm still really bothered by season one and
Speaker 1: your boyfriend and how we treated you. And I was
Speaker 1: really proud of how you, you know, pushed back and
Speaker 1: wouldn't take it. And I think that's so good for
Speaker 1: girls and women to see. It was a big learning
Speaker 1: curve for me because, um yeah, growing up, I didn't
Speaker 1: really know how to set boundaries and then I think
Speaker 1: self value. I I didn't really know that, so you know,
Speaker 1: and also like I didn't realize I had an anxious
Speaker 1: attachment style. Um so now they're going to therapy and
Speaker 1: learning that and then start everything starts connecting, making sense
Speaker 1: how my childhood is, you know, affected the way I am,
Speaker 1: and how to rewire my brain and know my self
Speaker 1: worth and know my boundary and know that what I deserve. Um,
Speaker 1: I think was it was very powerful and that I
Speaker 1: think that that show really season one has really helped
Speaker 1: me push me to do that. I think without the show,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean maybe eventually, but I don't
Speaker 1: think I would have. It was like literally in my face,
Speaker 1: I had to face it. There was no other way
Speaker 1: around it. How is it being a public person where
Speaker 1: every single thing you do is you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: not everything you do, but most things are in the
Speaker 1: public eye. Um, you know, I'm actually very like I
Speaker 1: don't go out too much of a homebody now, um
Speaker 1: and I I try to just kind of focus on
Speaker 1: my work and focus on what it matters to me
Speaker 1: and what truly matters. I think part of it that
Speaker 1: you have to kind of almost ignore it if that
Speaker 1: makes sense of other people's opinion, because end of the days,
Speaker 1: your life, and it's the good and bad. Right, If
Speaker 1: you're still focus on people's approval of you, of the
Speaker 1: good of the praise, you're not going to be as
Speaker 1: ground as I think. You know, maybe some people can
Speaker 1: do it, but for me, I don't really read too
Speaker 1: much about um, you know, just in general, I tend
Speaker 1: to I want to just stay center, stay ground it
Speaker 1: and you know, it's my life. But people are going
Speaker 1: to talk. But that's just the way it is. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think generally it's been pretty okay. Twitter is mean, though, Twitter,
Speaker 1: I just kind of tend to stay awful. Yeah, Twitter
Speaker 1: is mean, and I get I mean, since my account
Speaker 1: is personal, it's not a business. I just delete and
Speaker 1: I block. I'm so good at blocking. I don't care
Speaker 1: you play, it's like it's enough. Our world is too
Speaker 1: tough exactly. Yeah, but can you go out in the public,
Speaker 1: like do people like run after you down the street.
Speaker 1: They don't run after but they do, you know, stop
Speaker 1: me asking for pictures all that stuff, which you know,
Speaker 1: it's great because the end of the day, we are
Speaker 1: where we are because the fan base and you know,
Speaker 1: because every single person that watched the show, you know,
Speaker 1: what is the result of us being so successful on Netflix? Um.
Speaker 1: And when I went to because because of pandemic, I
Speaker 1: haven't been able to travel, so I just got back
Speaker 1: from Singapore when I went to Asia. Though, like our
Speaker 1: fan base definitely is in Asia because Singapore, Hong Kong
Speaker 1: all the space of world number one for a really
Speaker 1: long time, so that is I think it's a different level. Um.
Speaker 1: But I'm just really grateful, honestly. And also a lot
Speaker 1: of fans that came up to me, they were able
Speaker 1: to connect with my storyline, and some of them has
Speaker 1: told me personal stories that has how my storeline has
Speaker 1: affected them and empowered them or inspired them. So I'm
Speaker 1: just really really grateful for that. You just become an
Speaker 1: advocate for for mental health, and I think that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, was that intentional or you know, you're just
Speaker 1: you've kind of adopted that. The reason I'm such a
Speaker 1: big advocate with for mental health because it has helped
Speaker 1: me so much, like crazy, Um, it's my first therapy
Speaker 1: session ever was the one that was filmed on television
Speaker 1: for season one of Bling on Fire, so walking, and
Speaker 1: obviously I had no idea what to expect um, but
Speaker 1: that really opened a lot of the doors for me
Speaker 1: for mental health because in the in the Asian culture
Speaker 1: growing up, we never talked about mental health. We didn't
Speaker 1: really even talk about how we feel, like the emotions
Speaker 1: and you know, humans were emotion beings. But it's just
Speaker 1: it's weird, like I didn't I don't even know the
Speaker 1: language how to express that. And after the season wrapped,
Speaker 1: I really spend time to do individual therapy. I read
Speaker 1: a lot of books, uh, listen to podcasts, YouTube and
Speaker 1: things are start like started connect and it's really changed
Speaker 1: me and to uh and you know, I'm still work
Speaker 1: in progress, but just how much it's benefited me. I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, this is the information I got to share,
Speaker 1: especially with the younger generation, especially you know in the
Speaker 1: Asian culture that is also removing a stigma. There was
Speaker 1: such a big stigma on mental health. Yeah, and and
Speaker 1: you know, working as hard as you do, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're not unsimilar to me that even when
Speaker 1: you're not working, you're thinking about other things. Once you're
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, you know, the hustle is real and you're
Speaker 1: just always going, how do you soothe yourself? How do
Speaker 1: you take care of yourself? Like, what are some of
Speaker 1: the things you do to kind of calm down? So
Speaker 1: I never I never learned to do that. I never
Speaker 1: learned to do until about a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I think during the pandemic has really helped me slow down.
Speaker 1: And during that time is also time that I start,
Speaker 1: you know, really looking into mental health and mental wellness. Um.
Speaker 1: But for now, Sundays I don't work, so everybody knows
Speaker 1: not on Sundays, not to bother me. I actually this
Speaker 1: is a little probably too extreme. I have two films.
Speaker 1: So one is my personal phone that you know that,
Speaker 1: but literally this personal phone is text messaging and you know,
Speaker 1: like my friends and family all that stuff. The other one,
Speaker 1: I don't have social media, I don't have news, I
Speaker 1: don't have any stuff on a small and the other
Speaker 1: phone is for social media, UM and news. I used
Speaker 1: to remember I like would just always be on my
Speaker 1: emails and news. If you email me at two three am,
Speaker 1: I'll probably respond like I don't even like sleep with
Speaker 1: like my like my sound off because I was working
Speaker 1: also in Asia time as well. Um. Nowadays I know
Speaker 1: how to set boundaries. I go on, I love going
Speaker 1: on WASP, being in nature. UM, disconnect my phone from
Speaker 1: my TV. UM. So just just just basically you have
Speaker 1: to disconnect. And and what about your personal life are
Speaker 1: you dating? Like? What's you know? How? How is is
Speaker 1: that able to balance? Yeah? I think now I'm able
Speaker 1: to balance a little bit better. And also uh, I
Speaker 1: learned self love during this process as well, and then
Speaker 1: learning how to love myself and really build a relationship
Speaker 1: with myself. It's as weird as this sound. You know,
Speaker 1: thirty plus years I lived with myself and until a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I'm like, well, I really don't
Speaker 1: even know myself. I never spent a time by myself.
Speaker 1: I hate it. A long time. I was always doing
Speaker 1: other things to distract myself. I hate it being home
Speaker 1: at nighttime. I will always just like go out me, friend,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? What are you doing? What are
Speaker 1: you doing just to occupy my time? Now? Like I
Speaker 1: love you know, just spending time and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I have to watch the next season to find out
Speaker 1: my dating life. I'm very very very happy. I'm the
Speaker 1: happy that I've ever been, and I'm just very grateful
Speaker 1: for everything. What what episode do we do? We get
Speaker 1: a glimpse because I've I've gotten almost two you know,
Speaker 1: through three in the second episode it's the next season
Speaker 1: that's coming out. Yeah, because I think, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the things I learned was that back then,
Speaker 1: back then, I never really learned to take the proper
Speaker 1: time to heal between relationships. I would jump into one
Speaker 1: thing after another out for another. And now you know,
Speaker 1: I after you know, my breakup, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: not dating anybody any six months by myself and just
Speaker 1: kind of hang out with myself, take myself on dates,
Speaker 1: you know. Um yeah, and that's it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: So that's why Also this that's why season two, you
Speaker 1: really don't see me doing a lot of dating and stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: are you do hang out with the cast when you
Speaker 1: guys are not in season? Like I'm probably closest with Kane,
Speaker 1: you know, and all of us kind of talk, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: so can I just was poor together and we went
Speaker 1: to seek him too. When she has a residency in
Speaker 1: in Vegas, so we went to see her in Vegas
Speaker 1: to support her. So yeah, well that must that must
Speaker 1: have been really fun. That was really fun. But the
Speaker 1: music was so loud. I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you do this every single weekend. So are you
Speaker 1: working on anything besides this show or is the show
Speaker 1: kind of taking everything? No, I'm you know, so obviously
Speaker 1: working on my business. I have a production from so
Speaker 1: we have a documentary uh impost right now, a feature
Speaker 1: film and post right now. I have about five projects
Speaker 1: right now that we're in development, ready to hopefully shoot soon.
Speaker 1: And um, I just shot a movie as far as
Speaker 1: a talent goes out, you know, it was it was
Speaker 1: fun because it was my old cruise. It was really fun.
Speaker 1: And then um, I'm doing some other I have a
Speaker 1: have another company that we we developed products, so I'm
Speaker 1: for the first time I'm doing something uh that's my
Speaker 1: product myself and some were in development that I'm just
Speaker 1: it's really exciting. Just a lot of stuff. So I knew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's more stuff coming out, So I'm keeping myself busy.
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna get myself busy. Okay, so let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about network, Like, like, talk to me about food.
Speaker 1: Do you have any special ding you know? Do you
Speaker 1: love to eat? Do you cook? Is there anything special
Speaker 1: that you're like loving these days? I love to eat.
Speaker 1: I'm not a good cook, but I'm really great at eating.
Speaker 1: And I love spicy food. I'm the type that would
Speaker 1: travel the places just to eat. Um. And it's also
Speaker 1: why I love traveling. I think it's you know, traveling
Speaker 1: is is living. I I live to eat, you know.
Speaker 1: That's what I I always say, and I always say I'm
Speaker 1: always on a seafood diet. I see food, I eat
Speaker 1: it and eat whatever you want. And food doesn't affect you.
Speaker 1: You don't get you know, stomach, egge, headache, nothing. I
Speaker 1: think I've forced my body to learn. I used to
Speaker 1: be not aviobly eat very too much. But I think
Speaker 1: like the more I was eating, the more, but my
Speaker 1: body is kind of used to it. I eat pretty
Speaker 1: much everything. Um. Yeah, there's I love. I love trying food,
Speaker 1: but I love spicy food. That's my things. Like spicy food.
Speaker 1: And you never go on and off health kicks, like
Speaker 1: you're not someone that juices or does protein smoothies. You
Speaker 1: just go right for the real food. I do protein
Speaker 1: smoothies after I work out, but it's not a like
Speaker 1: it's not that I have to even after I work out,
Speaker 1: I just have to get a protein. So I'm either
Speaker 1: eating meal or I'm getting a smoothie in um. You know, juicing,
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think it's great to juice
Speaker 1: in the morning. I I once in a while, I'll
Speaker 1: do it, but it's not I'm not on a regular,
Speaker 1: like very strict diet. And how about your fashion, Like,
Speaker 1: what's when you're not working? What? What? What are you wearing? Sweats? Sweats?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should be saying that, but yes,
Speaker 1: I were. I wear like actual, yeah, I were like.
Speaker 1: And I'm on a hunt for the perfect T shirt.
Speaker 1: I've been like trying and T shirts. So what what
Speaker 1: what's your comfort outfit? Pajamas and sweats? You know, because
Speaker 1: I think like I used when I was in my twenties,
Speaker 1: I used to wear like I want to look like
Speaker 1: I was wearing high heels. I loved wearing high heels
Speaker 1: back then it doesn't matter how far I have to blok.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm wearing high heels out Nowadays, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's comfortable? Even when I try to dress on, Like
Speaker 1: when I when I have to go to premier, go
Speaker 1: to carpets. If it's not comfortable, I'm like, I'm good, Like,
Speaker 1: I just rather find something out it's more comfortable. That
Speaker 1: is definitely. That is definitely the pandemic. I think we
Speaker 1: all just you know, realize that who needs that stuff? Yeah, exactly?
Speaker 1: What about you do? Cook? You know, my family cooks.
Speaker 1: I've got two daughter in laws of different cultures. I've
Speaker 1: an Indian daughter in law and a half Filipino and
Speaker 1: they bring things from you know, from their family recipes.
Speaker 1: And my son's all cook. So I'm a very I
Speaker 1: like really clean food. So I'm a pretty basic cook.
Speaker 1: But I've become the soux chef, and I've definitely become
Speaker 1: the I call myself a mutler because I am the
Speaker 1: one that, you know, make sure I have everything, and
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like a mother, butler is what
Speaker 1: it is. And I also clean up. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: a little bit nutty that way. So I like to clean.
Speaker 1: I don't mind doing dishes. I actually relax with me
Speaker 1: like cooking. Sometimes it's supposed to relax people, you know,
Speaker 1: it's pressure. Yeah, well how does that get ready at
Speaker 1: time for this? And you know I'm a little unfocused,
Speaker 1: so it's hard to be that kind of a cook.
Speaker 1: So one one last question before I asked you the
Speaker 1: final question. Do you have a favorite cocktail? Oh? I
Speaker 1: think just a dirty martini. You know, for me, it's
Speaker 1: just like it's classic and I never get sick of it. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: extra bruised, wow, extra dirty, extra olive, and choose all
Speaker 1: of if they have it sounds awesome. Yeah. Well, since
Speaker 1: this podcast is called The Important Things, um, I always
Speaker 1: like to ask my guests, like, what would one thing
Speaker 1: that you could tell all the listeners that are listening now,
Speaker 1: according to to you, what they could do that would
Speaker 1: change their life or add to their life. I think
Speaker 1: it's really live a work life balance, you know. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that for me was
Speaker 1: that in my twenties I really focused with work, work, work,
Speaker 1: war work, to the point that my body was giving
Speaker 1: up and I was but a the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what is it? What am I working for you, know,
Speaker 1: so spend time, spend time for you with your family,
Speaker 1: spend time even to get to know yourself. It's so important. Um.
Speaker 1: Like I said, just like I I really didn't know
Speaker 1: myself and I really have to spend a time, you
Speaker 1: know now. I love alone time. So just a live
Speaker 1: a work life balance. Well, I hope you're able to
Speaker 1: do that with all this stuff that you are actually
Speaker 1: working on. I can't imagine how, but you know I
Speaker 1: will be. I'll be out there rooting for you and watching.
Speaker 1: So it was really really fun meeting you and really
Speaker 1: fun talking to you. Thank you so much, just such
Speaker 1: a pleasure. You're such an inspiration. Thanks, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Thank you bye, Thank you. Hey, Kim,
Speaker 1: how are you good? I knew you were going to
Speaker 1: be all glammed up? And my hair's wet, ponytail story
Speaker 1: in my life? So who did your hair and who
Speaker 1: did your makeup? Did you do it today or did
Speaker 1: you have somebody? I actually had my friend she's a
Speaker 1: makeup artist. And your makeup. I wish I can do
Speaker 1: my own glamps sometimes. It would save you so much time.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I wish I buy all those
Speaker 1: brushes and I try and I just can't do well.
Speaker 1: You look so beautiful. Thank you so much. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: are you. I'm doing good. I just got back from
Speaker 1: bancou Her. I had a show there. Um. Life's been
Speaker 1: very busy for me. Um been Um, this is the
Speaker 1: busiest I've ever been in my entire life. How is it?
Speaker 1: How is it to like being that busy or is
Speaker 1: it a little crazy? I like being busy because you know,
Speaker 1: the pandemic happened, we were a lot of us were
Speaker 1: in lockdown for a long time. So I guess having
Speaker 1: that long break, maybe I think a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm in the creative field, meaning like I'm in show business.
Speaker 1: It's it's not sometimes it's not stable, and I know
Speaker 1: how it is not to be busy, so I appreciate
Speaker 1: times like this. But your schedule must be so insane
Speaker 1: because you're deejaying, like, what are your hours? Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: it's um, I'm my staying up late night. But it's
Speaker 1: weird because I'm in morning person. I love waking up
Speaker 1: early eight o'clock. I'm out of the house at the gym.
Speaker 1: I I love being up early. But yet, what I
Speaker 1: do I have to stay up late till like five
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. So, well, what time do you
Speaker 1: have to get to work? For most gigs, Um, sometimes
Speaker 1: I have to leave in the early morning, get on
Speaker 1: the plane, like I would say eight o'clock. Sometimes, um,
Speaker 1: eight or nine. I get to UM or wherever I
Speaker 1: have to go to check into my hotel. I don't
Speaker 1: go on until like twelve am and I DJ T
Speaker 1: three am. Yeah, oh my god. And then and then
Speaker 1: how do you calm down when you get back to
Speaker 1: your room? Do you go out do? What do you do?
Speaker 1: I turn off my phone. I do not want to
Speaker 1: hear no music. I get in the bathtub and take
Speaker 1: a nice bump bath and go right to sleep. Go
Speaker 1: right to sleep. You don't have to come out. I
Speaker 1: try to, you know. It's hard sometimes I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: It's hard to wind down on It's because it's like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm around a different a lot of different energies,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's a lot, especially now my show
Speaker 1: has gotten bigger, more fans from ever since the show aired. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit overwhelmed. I'm not gonna lie, but UM,
Speaker 1: so far I'm doing pretty good, you know, And So
Speaker 1: what about fueling your body as you're going through these days?
Speaker 1: Because you know, I mean, I'm talking to a couple
Speaker 1: of different people that have these crazy lives, but they
Speaker 1: don't have like that. I don't think people realize that
Speaker 1: the physical nous it's like being an athlete of mjan like,
Speaker 1: don't you have to fuel yourself a certain way? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: That's why I work out every single day. And it's
Speaker 1: not about just staying in shape. It helps me mentally, um,
Speaker 1: And to do what I do, you've got to be
Speaker 1: in shape. Um. So I actually take a lot of
Speaker 1: vitamins now, I'm taking more vitamins more than ever. I
Speaker 1: actually go to g n C. I go to the
Speaker 1: health stores and get all the vitamins I need just
Speaker 1: to maintain. And you know, I put my health first.
Speaker 1: I think without health, I wouldn't Without good health, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do what I'm doing. To be honest,
Speaker 1: there's absolutely a way. What's your what what kind of
Speaker 1: a diet do you follow? Um, I'm getting a lot
Speaker 1: of salmon now. I eat. I do eat protein and
Speaker 1: stuff for energy. I am a health freak. Actually, I
Speaker 1: try to eat healthy as much as possible. I take um. Oh,
Speaker 1: I drink smoothies every day. I love smoothies. I gotta
Speaker 1: have my smoothes. I do depend on a lot of
Speaker 1: energy drink. I'm not gonna lie because I don't drink
Speaker 1: alcohol anymore, and you know, I I gotta have something,
Speaker 1: so I guess, um, yeah, I depend on a lot
Speaker 1: of energy drinks to stay upbeat all the time. All right,
Speaker 1: So I won't ask you your favorite cocktail, your favorite car.
Speaker 1: That's the old Kim. Also, you you there was an
Speaker 1: old Kim and a new Kim. Okay, yes, you know.
Speaker 1: The new Kim was like when I was when I
Speaker 1: first entered this industry, you know, Um, being so new,
Speaker 1: I used to get very nervous before my shows, so
Speaker 1: I would depend on drinking so much. And I realized, like, okay,
Speaker 1: to last in this industry, I have this whole lifestyle.
Speaker 1: I can't just depending on alcohol all the time. So
Speaker 1: it was like a lot of training myself. Trust me,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not easy. It's like, you know, you're
Speaker 1: around that. I'm around people that's drinking, doing all these
Speaker 1: crazy things. And I think being disciplined in this industry
Speaker 1: has helped me so much. It's hard I am sure.
Speaker 1: So first I want to talk about your mom because
Speaker 1: I love that early episode with your mother teaching you
Speaker 1: how to pose and what to wear. You know, tell
Speaker 1: me a little bit about your mom. My mom is
Speaker 1: a wonderful woman. UM. I mean I'm not just saying
Speaker 1: this because she's my mother, but she you know, she
Speaker 1: has helped me so much. I am the woman I
Speaker 1: am today because of her. Um. A lot of Asian
Speaker 1: American moms are usually how do you say that, they
Speaker 1: expect their child to become a nurse, a doctor, loy
Speaker 1: you'r um. My mother has always you know, I think
Speaker 1: she always been supportable with everything I've done. You know,
Speaker 1: in the very beginning, she didn't really understand what Deejaying
Speaker 1: is and modeling, and but she always encouraged me. And
Speaker 1: it's surprising because she would watch my my DJ shows
Speaker 1: and she said, Kim, you need to wear something more sexier,
Speaker 1: but really tone it down. So she gets it, you know.
Speaker 1: And um, they call her like the Asian Chris Jenner.
Speaker 1: I find it so funny. She gets that, she understands
Speaker 1: and UM, we have a great relationship, as you can
Speaker 1: see on Umbling Empire. UM, we're like best friends. And
Speaker 1: I think it's important to have like a bond with
Speaker 1: your parents. You know, she's I trust her, I tell
Speaker 1: her everything. Sometimes I feel like I tell her too much.
Speaker 1: Well you're you're You're lucky to have that. You're really are.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna go get down to the meat
Speaker 1: of it, Like what was up with Kevin? The guy
Speaker 1: is so cute? I mean, I'm sorry, I have such
Speaker 1: a crush on him, Like, did you ever get it
Speaker 1: together with Kevin? It's like, come on, okay, I'm so glad. Actually,
Speaker 1: this is my first podcast ever ever since the show aired,
Speaker 1: by the way, and I'm a huge fan. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan of yours for me, like huge inspirations
Speaker 1: too many people, including myself so nice. Yeah no, Um, okay,
Speaker 1: back to Kevin good looking, he's so cute. Yes, he
Speaker 1: isn't a very attractive person and he is a sweetheart. Um.
Speaker 1: We had such a difficult time taking him serious because
Speaker 1: season one, okay, he was. He even told me this.
Speaker 1: He was very serious about Kelly while she was in
Speaker 1: a relationship with him. He was trying to pursue here
Speaker 1: and season two, out of nowhere, he switched and he's
Speaker 1: said Kim I want to be with you, and to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, wait, just a season ago, not too long ago,
Speaker 1: you were so serious with Kelly and it was weird.
Speaker 1: It was like I tried to believe that I wasn'cere
Speaker 1: and I didn't. I couldn't believe him. There you go.
Speaker 1: I thought it was okay. I was confused, are you
Speaker 1: doing this for camera time? Or do you really like me?
Speaker 1: On top of that, you know, Kane and I were
Speaker 1: all good friends. We all know Kevin have other women.
Speaker 1: He was dating other girls. Why we were filming you
Speaker 1: Sometimes the cameras don't capture all this. But I looked
Speaker 1: like the bad guy because I was leading him on.
Speaker 1: I was, and you didn't show up. You stood him
Speaker 1: up there? That was wrong, right, right? Okay? Okay, And
Speaker 1: the phone looks so good. I'm getting a lot of
Speaker 1: like hate on the internet because of that. Absolutely, you
Speaker 1: know I was wrong for that. I had cold feet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't think he's going to get a chef. I'm
Speaker 1: paying for all his meals, Bobby, I always pay for everything.
Speaker 1: Whoever thought Kevin would get a chef on the first
Speaker 1: day it was nice, but I didn't know really, So
Speaker 1: when it aired, I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: look like a complete jerk for doing that. Yes, that
Speaker 1: was wrong. I apologize for that. Right, that was wrong.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's gonna be so interesting because I
Speaker 1: watched a bunch of the episodes this weekend. I had
Speaker 1: watched them a year ago, and then I came back
Speaker 1: and watched them again knowing I was going to talk
Speaker 1: to you, and now I can't wait to watch the rest,
Speaker 1: so I might have to text you with more questions.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just I enjoy it so much.
Speaker 1: I know it's like and I'm not a reality show guy,
Speaker 1: Like there's other reality shows I'm not interested in, but
Speaker 1: this one, I don't know what. Well, thank you, I
Speaker 1: mean same. I'm happy to hear that. That's to me,
Speaker 1: that's a huge compliment. A lot of people do tell
Speaker 1: us that that we like, we'll get this all the time.
Speaker 1: We don't watch reality shows about blaming higher. Wow, So
Speaker 1: hearing that makes me really happy. So thank you. Everyone's
Speaker 1: so different, you know, first of all, the amount of money,
Speaker 1: Like I know people that you know have a lot
Speaker 1: of money and spend a lot of money. I never
Speaker 1: saw anything like the things I'm seeing in that show,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's crazy, but everyone seems so down
Speaker 1: to earth and nice. Yeah. I mean, I gotta admit,
Speaker 1: we've got a great cast. Um off camera, Um, you
Speaker 1: know Anna, I just saw her the other day. I
Speaker 1: love Anna. Anna is like I want to be Anna
Speaker 1: when I get older. She's amazing, great, and she's like
Speaker 1: she has this in her child in her. We saw
Speaker 1: each other at this Netflix party. She was the only
Speaker 1: one on the dance floor. I loved it. She seems
Speaker 1: like a really good, down to earth person. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 1: I you know, besides getting cursed out by her, sometimes
Speaker 1: we get along so well. Um, you know, I love her.
Speaker 1: She's definitely one of my favorites. And when they when
Speaker 1: the show came to you to do this, did you jump?
Speaker 1: Are you nervous? Did you know what was going on?
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was gonna get myself into because, um,
Speaker 1: we were all so different, to be honest with you, like,
Speaker 1: we all have different personalities. And at first I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: reality show, yes, why not? But until I got to
Speaker 1: know the cast, I was like, wait, we have nothing
Speaker 1: in common. But I guess that's what made it interesting.
Speaker 1: We have Jamie here that just talks about dir and
Speaker 1: Chanelle all day and it's like she's really like that
Speaker 1: in person, and it's interesting to me, you know. And
Speaker 1: we have um, we have Kane. I mean I first
Speaker 1: met Kane on online. So what happened was Bravo came
Speaker 1: to me. Um, after Crazy Rich Asians movie aired, it
Speaker 1: was a hit show. Um, Bravo reached out to me said, hey,
Speaker 1: Kim are our president wants to do an awe Asian
Speaker 1: cast a reality show and they want to give your
Speaker 1: own TV show. But at that time, they're like, we
Speaker 1: will film you and your girlfriends, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what girlfriends? So they said, can you help us get
Speaker 1: a fine other Asian Americans? And so that's when I
Speaker 1: went on Instagram. UM, this is so weird, but I
Speaker 1: came across Kinglyn's profile and that was the first person
Speaker 1: I saw out of everybody. And I told Bravo, I
Speaker 1: don't know who this guy is, but he lives such
Speaker 1: a lavish lifestyle. You guys need to get him. So
Speaker 1: they said, well, can you reach out to them to him?
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, I'm not a casting director, and okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do it this one time. It took him three
Speaker 1: days to respond to me, and he said, Kim, um,
Speaker 1: please don't sign anything. You need to meet Jeff Jenkins.
Speaker 1: I was like, who's Jeff Jenkins? So I googled him.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we did the Kardashians and everything.
Speaker 1: So the very same night, I drove up to the
Speaker 1: Hollywood Hills. Jeff, you put me on camera and he said, Kim,
Speaker 1: you're literally are missing puzzle, and yeah, next everything happened
Speaker 1: really fast. After that, we we shot a pilot. Next
Speaker 1: thing you know it, we're Netflix wanted to come to
Speaker 1: one of my shows, which I thought was weird, and
Speaker 1: they announced they picked up our show, and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything happened very fast from there. That's that's incredible. And
Speaker 1: are you able to actually go out in public? Like
Speaker 1: can you go to the grocery store? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, Bobby, I am like, it's things. Like
Speaker 1: I said, when things happened so fast for me, I'm
Speaker 1: not even lying. I went to Koreatown not too long
Speaker 1: ago to have Bolba with my friends. It turned out
Speaker 1: to be a meeting greet. I don't know. It was like,
Speaker 1: you don't really I didn't realize how big of the
Speaker 1: show was until I actually stepped out and people were
Speaker 1: asking for photos. Left to write. And recently I went
Speaker 1: to In and Out and the I had no makeup on.
Speaker 1: I went from the gym, I went straight to In
Speaker 1: and Out, no makeup, Like, no one's gonna recognize me.
Speaker 1: This girl with my order from window one ran to
Speaker 1: window too. She said, are you kid from going out?
Speaker 1: I said no, I took my burger and drove off.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: only going to get worse, you know, Yeah, no, But
Speaker 1: I again, I appreciate everything. I mean, if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for the fans, we wouldn't have this show. So you
Speaker 1: know you're enjoying it right now. What what else do
Speaker 1: you want to do? I mean, not that you have
Speaker 1: a nanosecond in your life, but is there anything else
Speaker 1: that you're like, Wow, I'd love my own clothing company,
Speaker 1: makeup company, any of that stuff. Yes. I'm actually UM
Speaker 1: in the works with a couple of projects right now.
Speaker 1: Definitely UM, probably in the beauty industry. But I feel
Speaker 1: like Bling Empire has been a stepping stone for me,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's just just the beginning, and
Speaker 1: that I do want to take film and TV more
Speaker 1: serious now just it's just a matter of time. How
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fit this, make this happen with my busy schedule.
Speaker 1: But absolutely, um, more TV, more of movies, more film.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's so neat. And you I mean you're American,
Speaker 1: you were born here, right and your mom is from
Speaker 1: she's from Vietnam. Yes, from My mom's from Vietnam. Um,
Speaker 1: she's been here for a very long time. Um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was very hard for me to get her on
Speaker 1: the show at first because she's like reality she because
Speaker 1: my parents are very private you know. Um, so for
Speaker 1: them to come on the show and open up but
Speaker 1: their lives was very It was a big deal. And
Speaker 1: I thank him so much for that, you know, because
Speaker 1: I know I respected privacy, so they really did her
Speaker 1: for me. You know, you didn't see your dad on
Speaker 1: the show. Was he on the show too? My stepdad
Speaker 1: is on the show, but for season one. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: my my storyline was looking for my biological father to
Speaker 1: get closure and unfortunately he found out he passed. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I never got a chance to see him. Uh but
Speaker 1: your stepdad pretty much raised you correct, correct, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: have an amazing um relationship, you know. Uh, he's uh, gosh,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't be even more thankful ever, Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know what to do without him, you know,
Speaker 1: just having to having I guess watching Bling Empire made
Speaker 1: me realize how important family is. You know, that was
Speaker 1: a big wake up call when um, when I got
Speaker 1: the private investigator to go look for my biological debt,
Speaker 1: because I guess part of me always thought, like, all,
Speaker 1: He'll always be there, and watching that's still really hard
Speaker 1: for me sometimes, like I still hold some regret inside,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm still learning to let go and it's
Speaker 1: the past. It's okay, you know, Well it's it's awesome
Speaker 1: that you're still so open and growing as a person,
Speaker 1: and I think that is what it's about. Hey, Christy
Speaker 1: Carlson Romano, the voice of Kim Possible, and you Fee
Speaker 1: from Kingdom Heart Will for del voice of Ron Stoppable,
Speaker 1: and Terry McGuinness a k A. Batman, How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I am so jazz that I Heart Radio is now
Speaker 1: producing I Hear Voices our podcast. Can you believe that
Speaker 1: we are actually part of the I Heart family. I
Speaker 1: am so excited because we get to interview some of
Speaker 1: the coolest people ever in the voice over industry. I
Speaker 1: think so too, And you guys have to go ahead
Speaker 1: and listen to it because we interview amazing guests that
Speaker 1: are all icons in the industry, and they teach you
Speaker 1: plenty of things, from Eric Bowsa to who else brock Powell,
Speaker 1: you name it, we got him on the show. Because
Speaker 1: where else, when you really think about it, can you
Speaker 1: talk to Batman and SpongeBob SquarePants in the same day. Nowhere,
Speaker 1: But I hear voices and you can listen to I
Speaker 1: hear voices on the I Heart Radio app or wherever
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts. So come and check us out
Speaker 1: if you want the inside scoop on the voiceover world.
Speaker 1: So I always asked my guests, this is this final question,
Speaker 1: which is the podcast is called The Important Things. So
Speaker 1: what is the one thing that the listeners that are
Speaker 1: hearing this podcast when they walk away say, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Kim taught me this. What could you tell them to
Speaker 1: do to love yourself, put yourself first. And it's okay
Speaker 1: to put yourself first. And I'm saying that is because
Speaker 1: of season two. I I opened up about my past relationship.
Speaker 1: I gave my all to a certain person, that I thought,
Speaker 1: I truly that would be with for a long time.
Speaker 1: And I gave him my all. I put him first.
Speaker 1: I didn't and I put myself second, and and I
Speaker 1: thought I look back, I was like, wow, I've almost
Speaker 1: lost myself. And and so when I say put yourself first,
Speaker 1: and it's okay, that that's how it should be. You
Speaker 1: gotta love yourself first before you love. That's a nice.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for getting on talking to me.
Speaker 1: I'm honored it was your first podcast. And I can't
Speaker 1: wait one day when I want to stay up all
Speaker 1: night and you're djaying nearby, I'll give you a call
Speaker 1: and are do you live in l A or d
Speaker 1: you know? I'm New York, New York. Well if you're
Speaker 1: ever in l A and I'm ever in a New York,
Speaker 1: oh definitely please. All right, well are you gonna answer me?
Speaker 1: Are you got nine million people if I talked? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow you now. Actually just Bobby Brown, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just Bobby Brown. Yeah, thank you a great thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: Follow us on social at the Important Things podcast on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and just Bobby Brown on TikTok. See you guys next time.