Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
Speaker 1: scripted as well.
Speaker 2: Happy Friday, you have well listen Rain Dawns. If you're listening,
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Speaker 2: all of his glory of Alexis Jansen and I because
Speaker 2: we booked a wrink glasses.
Speaker 3: Yesay, I like it.
Speaker 4: You were the white, I wore the black. Okay, we
Speaker 4: flipped there we go.
Speaker 5: What look Ebony and Ivory are back together. So you
Speaker 5: are such a hoot.
Speaker 6: How are you, Love, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I'm good. Anything new in your world.
Speaker 2: You know, listen, just living the dream and and setting
Speaker 2: the standard.
Speaker 6: That's that's.
Speaker 3: Super private.
Speaker 4: Doesn't tell anything happening in his life anyway.
Speaker 2: So okay, well, you know, Love, I'm trying to figure
Speaker 2: out a lot that's been going on.
Speaker 6: With my show, ohc because.
Speaker 2: Listen, so brain drops, we're recapping the Real house Watch
Speaker 2: of Orange County. This is episode four, right, so the
Speaker 2: Beauty of Alexis an I. We do not talk about
Speaker 2: the show prior to hitting the record button, so we
Speaker 2: have no idea, uh what we are.
Speaker 6: About to say.
Speaker 3: But can I tell you something?
Speaker 6: Of course you can always.
Speaker 3: I already knew what you were gonna say.
Speaker 4: I will be let me let me see if I
Speaker 4: give me if on a one to ten, how close
Speaker 4: I am to what you were going to say?
Speaker 3: Alexis. Oh honey, Alexis, this.
Speaker 4: Show needs tamera, Like, I just get the picture you
Speaker 4: going this This episode was so boring and I have
Speaker 4: to kind of derail you a little and be like, okay, Carlos,
Speaker 4: let's peel it back a little. Let's calm down a
Speaker 4: little bit. Okay, am I what on a scale of
Speaker 4: one to ten?
Speaker 3: Am I five on you?
Speaker 5: Ten?
Speaker 3: Being yes, I nailed it.
Speaker 6: Well. The thing about you, you are an over teamer,
Speaker 6: so you are over ten.
Speaker 2: You're betting at a twenty. So listen, I don't have
Speaker 2: to start things off so less.
Speaker 6: Just with that. With that, of course, with that, so
Speaker 6: how about we do this.
Speaker 2: Let's just start from the beginning and see how we
Speaker 2: work our way through.
Speaker 6: You want to do that, sure, but you.
Speaker 4: Know I have a heart out today today. We can't
Speaker 4: go longer, which we might. It's something long episodes go longer.
Speaker 4: But let me ask you this. I wanted to start
Speaker 4: with one thing. We never discussed the taglines because this
Speaker 4: was such a boring episode. I thought, you know what,
Speaker 4: let's go back. I want to ask Carlos his what
Speaker 4: he thought I ever wrote him down? I mean, look
Speaker 4: at look at my I wrote him down because I'm like,
Speaker 4: I couldn't remember him.
Speaker 3: Do you know him?
Speaker 6: Now? So read them to us, and I'll grade it
Speaker 6: from a look, okay, five being great?
Speaker 3: Five being great?
Speaker 6: Okay, let's go okay, Okay, so I.
Speaker 3: Will read them.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Heather, my motives are like my taste best
Speaker 4: left unquestioned.
Speaker 6: To three and a half.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Shannon, how do I hold it all together?
Speaker 3: Brazilians and shapewear? Okay, Well, you can't just say it
Speaker 3: because if you don't like, oh god, okay, you're like,
Speaker 3: you cannot be like this. You got to be objective.
Speaker 6: I'm honest, no, no, all, I'm honest. I'm honest you
Speaker 6: just like I thought.
Speaker 4: I kind of thought it was I thought my kind
Speaker 4: of decent because I'm like, well, she does work shape
Speaker 4: for everywhere, so at least she owns it.
Speaker 6: I liked it.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so Jin, the truth speaks volumes and I'm
Speaker 4: about to turn it up.
Speaker 6: A four? Who was that? Who was that?
Speaker 3: That was Jen?
Speaker 6: Okay? A four?
Speaker 3: Okay, Gina, Gina.
Speaker 4: Okay, just because I'm spoken for, it doesn't mean I
Speaker 4: won't speak up.
Speaker 3: To three Okay, Okay, Emily, Emily. My body may be new,
Speaker 3: but my mouth is the same as always.
Speaker 4: Four Okay, Tamera, I'm still the hottest housewife, and.
Speaker 3: That's my opinion.
Speaker 6: Three Okay.
Speaker 4: I thought if she would have done it more like
Speaker 4: she would have gone, I'm still the hottest housewife.
Speaker 3: But that's my opinion, and done it like the way
Speaker 3: she did it would have made it like I agree
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 4: The way she did it, she goes, and that's my opinion.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Tam.
Speaker 3: I love you. You know you're one of my.
Speaker 2: Tam But we understand because everyone's telling you the tone
Speaker 2: of down, so you're.
Speaker 3: Telling you to shut up, and you did it. Now
Speaker 3: the season's fucking boring. Okay, oh my.
Speaker 4: Gosh, I just drop the f bom I'm gonna hear
Speaker 4: from my kids later. Okay, Vicky lives, come and go,
Speaker 4: but legends we whoop it up forever.
Speaker 3: A four. I like, I kind of like it. I
Speaker 3: do like it.
Speaker 6: Carmela, what, no, go?
Speaker 3: What what were you gonna say?
Speaker 2: I think it's what you said about tam Run is
Speaker 2: you have to own.
Speaker 6: The delivery of it. Yeah, it's a stick to me.
Speaker 4: All right, Carmela, I'm the center of attention and the centerfold.
Speaker 6: A five.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a good one? It's so under It's like
Speaker 3: it's like once it's easy.
Speaker 4: I know. Okay, Okay, So Carmarla might be gaining our
Speaker 4: favoritism too much.
Speaker 3: We need to pull it back a little.
Speaker 6: No, I mean listen that. But but I mean, which
Speaker 6: one was your favorite?
Speaker 3: I really, for some reason, I really liked Vicki's.
Speaker 4: I think it's because it wasn't too like over the top,
Speaker 4: but it is like whoop was her.
Speaker 3: Thing and she is the legend.
Speaker 4: So I I loved Tamras, but I thought she didn't
Speaker 4: do it. I was like, oh my gosh, that would
Speaker 4: have been brilliant if she would have screamed.
Speaker 3: And that's my opinion, you know.
Speaker 4: But she she's toning everything down the red.
Speaker 3: I mean, I liked all of them. I kind of
Speaker 3: liked all of them. I think I thought Jens was
Speaker 3: kind of boring and you gave her a four. But
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: I liked it because I felt like it was who
Speaker 2: she is. As I'm watching the season, Tamra and Vicki
Speaker 2: were a nod to their legacy on the show as
Speaker 2: we're celebrating twenty seasons. So but I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I would have loved there as better if the delivery
Speaker 2: was there.
Speaker 4: Okay, So what would your tagline, b Carlos if you
Speaker 4: were a housewife?
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know they don't have men
Speaker 3: housewives and gay housewives, but if they did, what would
Speaker 3: yours be?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, listen, this one will be for the gays.
Speaker 2: Ooh okay, you ready? No, this is Carlos King's gay
Speaker 2: Housewives tagline.
Speaker 3: Oh okay.
Speaker 6: I started out as a bottom, but now I'm on top.
Speaker 4: Ooh okay, okay, that deserved a whole bin.
Speaker 3: What honey, that's good.
Speaker 6: I'm here on night. Alexis I'm here all night, baby,
Speaker 6: I'll go.
Speaker 3: I had your caffeine this morning to come.
Speaker 6: Look, although you're not here. On good we got forty
Speaker 6: five minutes, but I am here.
Speaker 4: We have exactly forty seven minutes left to go, no,
Speaker 4: forty six minutes left to go before I have to
Speaker 4: be Okay.
Speaker 2: So let's get into it. So the episode starts out. Listen,
Speaker 2: So Shannon, Gene and Emily are meeting. They're doing tiktoks,
Speaker 2: and they are also discussing Carmela, which listen, I don't
Speaker 2: know how I'm gonna get through this this recap, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: because well they got.
Speaker 3: I started with something fun. I played a little time.
Speaker 6: I know, but but La said, you know me, you
Speaker 6: can Alexa. You can physically see me trying to feel it.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the fact that Carmela buying Emily a d
Speaker 2: R bag is becoming the biggest drama so far.
Speaker 4: By any way, that handbag was only twenty seven hundred.
Speaker 4: It was not three grand, so it was you know,
Speaker 4: people were talking about the price. I googled it because
Speaker 4: you know me, detective, it was and I have been
Speaker 4: in the Deer store lately, so it was twenty seven
Speaker 4: hundred for that deer bag.
Speaker 6: Beautiful bag, beautiful bag. Here's the deal for me. And again,
Speaker 6: this is your world, right.
Speaker 2: You live in Orange County, your friend, A lot of
Speaker 2: your friends are there.
Speaker 6: I really need to know this from you.
Speaker 2: I have friends that obviously have money, and there are
Speaker 2: certain of my friends, certain of them.
Speaker 6: Who like to give a nice gift. You know.
Speaker 2: Now, granted we're friends, so I think I earned it,
Speaker 2: you know for sure. But when it comes to Carmela
Speaker 2: gifting Emily, yes, they haven't become real friends, she's just
Speaker 2: met her. Is that abnormal to gift somebody a twenty
Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars gift.
Speaker 6: In the Orange County?
Speaker 4: You know, I never thought you would ask this question.
Speaker 4: I didn't know if we would go there. But I
Speaker 4: have different groups of friends. I have five friends that
Speaker 4: are my closest friends that know pretty much everything, and
Speaker 4: that's that's my that's my inner circle.
Speaker 3: I have all different kinds of groups of friends.
Speaker 4: Also, Okay, there are groups of friends that it's known,
Speaker 4: if you're going to come to this birthday party, you
Speaker 4: are bringing.
Speaker 3: An expensive gift.
Speaker 4: And then there's groups of friends that it's like, don't
Speaker 4: bring a gift don't even bring a darn cake, just
Speaker 4: come to the party, like, and they still have money,
Speaker 4: like most of my I mean, I don't even know
Speaker 4: if I have do I have?
Speaker 3: Oh, I have a couple of broke friends. It's okay.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm using this China Lea through.
Speaker 4: Most of them have money, and it doesn't matter if
Speaker 4: they have a ton of money or a little money.
Speaker 4: Some of the ones with the most money are like,
Speaker 4: don't bring a gift at all. Some of the ones
Speaker 4: with the most money say you better wearing a fabulous
Speaker 4: gift or you know you're going to be frown upon.
Speaker 4: My take on this with Carmela is and I could
Speaker 4: be totally wrong, Carlos, I really could. I feel like
Speaker 4: Carmela was bringing that gift as a first of all,
Speaker 4: like I'm new to the group and I'm thankful to
Speaker 4: be here and I want to be accepted and I
Speaker 4: love you guys, and I do have money, so three
Speaker 4: eight twenty six hundred dollars is not.
Speaker 3: A big deal.
Speaker 4: However, I think the dildo made it kind of like
Speaker 4: a funny thing. Also, so I think her heart was
Speaker 4: pure in the fact that I'm not trying to show
Speaker 4: off and flaunt. I'm just trying to, you know, say
Speaker 4: here I am, and try to find out what this
Speaker 4: kind of But she doesn't know what these girls do.
Speaker 4: What if everybody else brought Emily like a Louis Vuton
Speaker 4: scarf and another pair of shoes, and then fending sunglasses
Speaker 4: and then she came with only a dildo, like you
Speaker 4: gotta she she did something with a nice bag and
Speaker 4: then a quirky gift.
Speaker 3: That's kind of a joke. I loved it.
Speaker 2: I love it too, and I actually agree with you.
Speaker 2: I think, I think when you look at somebody that
Speaker 2: has obviously some form of wealth. Right, We've learned this
Speaker 2: episode that she does have a real estate license and
Speaker 2: she she does real estate. We'll get in to that
Speaker 2: in a second. But her fucking husband is like an
Speaker 2: NFL All star. So she she's talked about how she's
Speaker 2: living in two different homes courtesy of just what she
Speaker 2: was able to, you know, retain from her previous We're
Speaker 2: not even previous because she's still married. But the point, right,
Speaker 2: so it's not even previous, But the point is, I
Speaker 2: will only understand this if she bought Emily a fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars Burke in handbag.
Speaker 6: Then I would have been like, that's insane.
Speaker 2: I think to your point, for some people, not all
Speaker 2: of us, but for some people, a twenty seven hundred
Speaker 2: dollars gift is not a lot for them, And I
Speaker 2: think we have to look at her.
Speaker 6: No shade to Jin because I love Jen.
Speaker 2: If Jen is buying you a gift for twenty seven
Speaker 2: hundred or Emily, then we need to we need to
Speaker 2: really study that. Like, okay, girl, we know that's not
Speaker 2: favorable for what you have told us about your financial struggle.
Speaker 2: So I think this whole theme of Carmela has run
Speaker 2: its course.
Speaker 4: So hopefully, Carlos, hopefully you're right and we can move
Speaker 4: on because, like, you're right, the fact that this season
Speaker 4: the biggest stick is that there's the freaking handbag. It's okay,
Speaker 4: let's go girls, let's go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's go. So Tamra heaven, Jan went to go
Speaker 6: work out.
Speaker 2: And what I'm really trying I'm trying today, alexis because
Speaker 2: the other drama that we're learning is you not being
Speaker 2: invited to do tiktoks.
Speaker 6: Okay, I did not sign up to watch.
Speaker 2: This show to see grown women have a beef about
Speaker 2: not doing a TikTok. I understand that some of you
Speaker 2: guys thought last scenes it was dark. Me and Alexis
Speaker 2: enjoyed it even the darkest. We were like, hey, we're
Speaker 2: watching it and we're entertained by it. So we're seeing
Speaker 2: here that Tamera says he does tiktoks with everyone else except.
Speaker 3: Her, Carlos.
Speaker 4: Carlos, in what world are tiktoks becoming so cool that
Speaker 4: grown women that have full time jobs and children are
Speaker 4: spending twenty hours a week worrying about performing tiktoks.
Speaker 3: I don't have enough hours in the day.
Speaker 4: I don't know where they come up with it. I mean,
Speaker 4: where's your TikTok, Carlos.
Speaker 6: I'm not doing TikTok shit. I run a business.
Speaker 2: I run a podcasting company, I run a production company.
Speaker 6: I have a live I date, I hang out, I
Speaker 6: go to the gym.
Speaker 2: You and I are very close. I'm not mad at
Speaker 2: you when you do anything outside of me. It's the
Speaker 2: craziest thing, Like is this okay?
Speaker 4: Do you remember the Mormon Wives when that show is
Speaker 4: became about and it was all about.
Speaker 3: The TikTok so that they were doing dance moves and doing
Speaker 3: all that. Okay, I get a TikTok for that.
Speaker 4: And those girls are twenty something with four kids on
Speaker 4: each boob.
Speaker 3: It's like, I get it.
Speaker 4: They are busy as heck and trying to make money
Speaker 4: behind the scenes so they can be a Mormon.
Speaker 3: Wife okay with kids, Okay.
Speaker 4: I do not understand this TikTok crave where you're going
Speaker 4: to spend twenty set aside the day to.
Speaker 3: Do your your what do they call it? Oh, shoot,
Speaker 3: I just lost it.
Speaker 4: You got to get your your material or whatever they
Speaker 4: set aside a whole day and then they go, do
Speaker 4: you gotta get your material? You gotta do it, and
Speaker 4: then you could just post it all month long. What
Speaker 4: the hell is this world coming to? I mean, we
Speaker 4: need to worry about where are the world's really going
Speaker 4: Over a frickin TikTok of someone grabbing a I don't know,
Speaker 4: a klean axe to wipe a booger and then make
Speaker 4: fun about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 6: Let's get back into the show. And the thing is this,
Speaker 6: I'm for the teenagers. I don't mind it. For the influencer.
Speaker 6: They don't have.
Speaker 4: Kids, and they don't have careers and jobs that they
Speaker 4: need to get to, and like, why don't you cook
Speaker 4: a meal and actually bring some good make a garden
Speaker 4: in your backyard since we're reading all these chemicals and
Speaker 4: crap all the time.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: My time is just too valuable and I don't have
Speaker 4: the time. And by the way, Carlos, I don't want
Speaker 4: to stare at myself all day long on a fucking screen.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go oh wait, no, that angle's bad. Okay, wait, no, no, dude,
Speaker 3: the TikTok again. Okay, wait, reset, okay, do it again?
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, Now I will hut. Oh look
Speaker 3: at that. Oh I look good? Oh yeah, okay, we're
Speaker 3: gonna post that one. What the hell my husband thinks
Speaker 3: I look good? It's all matters, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby baby, and I will co sign him when
Speaker 2: I say you look the fuck good. But this is
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, and I just have to say that.
Speaker 2: But one thing that I do want to talk about.
Speaker 2: Tamra feels that Heather only wants to be her friends
Speaker 2: when there's not people around, i e. Cameras, But she
Speaker 2: wants to be Tamar's friend, but she doesn't want anyone
Speaker 2: to know about it. And this is when I say
Speaker 2: we you and I both can attest to, especially you
Speaker 2: with your previous time on OC especially the last time
Speaker 2: you were on. There a lot of women on reality television,
Speaker 2: they do base their friendships upon whether or not social
Speaker 2: media likes you.
Speaker 6: And because Tamra is.
Speaker 2: Arguably, for the world of social media, the most unlikable
Speaker 2: cast member based on social media standards, not alexas Heather
Speaker 2: does not want to co sign her, so that I get.
Speaker 2: But alexis, when you had your last season on the show,
Speaker 2: when the girls left you and went to have dinner
Speaker 2: after the reunion, did you feel like they were distant
Speaker 2: from you based on how social media received you.
Speaker 4: I think the whole sea was I mean once because
Speaker 4: everything changed.
Speaker 3: This is real information, this is real truth.
Speaker 4: Before one episode aired, it was totally different with the women.
Speaker 4: The minute that the first episode aired and I could
Speaker 4: see where they were taking me and where my what
Speaker 4: my character was going to be that season.
Speaker 3: It was like crickets. It was. It was, you know,
Speaker 3: totally different.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I get it, and I think that they
Speaker 4: do want to be close to the person that has
Speaker 4: the best turnout for the season. And then they want
Speaker 4: to kind of distance themselves from the person that doesn't.
Speaker 4: It really is kind of something that stinks about the
Speaker 4: you know, reality TV world, but it's true.
Speaker 2: It makes me sad because that is what is happening
Speaker 2: between Tamar and Heather, and I know that's what happened
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 6: You and I discussed it as.
Speaker 2: Well, and that is what Tamara is trying to say
Speaker 2: without really going beyond the fourth wall. But the reason
Speaker 2: why this season is becoming a little bit lackluster is
Speaker 2: because the friendships are based on whatever people on social
Speaker 2: media are saying. And that's why, again, Tamern have this friendship.
Speaker 2: I will always say this and I will never ever
Speaker 2: ever change my mind on it. Their friendship is based
Speaker 2: on being coworkers on the show, and Heather is going
Speaker 2: to be friends with people that she feels the audience loves,
Speaker 2: Josh Autman, Rath, Lauren, you know, like people that can do.
Speaker 6: Something for her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, it's the weird thing about me
Speaker 4: is that I do care about her, and so I
Speaker 4: just I can't really go as deep as you are
Speaker 4: on that moment because of the fact that like I
Speaker 4: do you know, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know this is it's a really sticky situation.
Speaker 4: No, I can imagine get your opinion, and I know
Speaker 4: that that's what we're here to do.
Speaker 3: But I'm just gonna let you. You just have your opinion.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I will say this, I also respect your
Speaker 2: friendship and I never want to put you in a
Speaker 2: position to have to say anything that makes you uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: That's why I feel free to say everything I feel.
Speaker 2: So No, I respect that. I respect that and what
Speaker 2: I did also respect in the scene. Let me tell
Speaker 2: you that Jen. Every episode, I'm letting Jen more and more.
Speaker 2: Jen stood up for Tamra in that moment and says
Speaker 2: she is confused by their friendship.
Speaker 6: And when Tamra said.
Speaker 2: That head's a people pleaser and how she could turn
Speaker 2: it on and off, it's you know, I just appreciated
Speaker 2: Jin in that moment, calling it out in front of
Speaker 2: Healler's face, like, I'm also confused by this because on
Speaker 2: one end, you tell me things unflattering about her, but
Speaker 2: when you're around her, you.
Speaker 6: Make it seem like you to are close. So listen.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Jen for standing up her tamera, which
Speaker 2: showed me the growth they have based on where they started.
Speaker 6: Earlier in this season too.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and isn't isn't that funny that that's kind
Speaker 4: of what we all want to see is the growth
Speaker 4: number one, And also just the moving of the storyline,
Speaker 4: the plots, all.
Speaker 3: The moving of it. You don't want everything to stay stagnant.
Speaker 4: So it gets old when certain things are not moving
Speaker 4: and changing. And I do like the fact that Jen
Speaker 4: is being vocal. She found her voice. This is the season.
Speaker 4: Last year she's getting there. This year she found her voice.
Speaker 4: And this year she's like, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna I just have to speak up.
Speaker 3: And especially if Tamra, if the person that always has
Speaker 3: the voice is going.
Speaker 4: To be mute, mute, you know, like she's just Tamra's
Speaker 4: just like I think she's just you know, having PTSD
Speaker 4: from last season, being called too much of a villain
Speaker 4: and and now she's pulling back and and I think
Speaker 4: that we have to have one of them.
Speaker 3: So it's the Jins standing up right now and speaking of.
Speaker 6: No, I love it, I love it, I love it
Speaker 6: the of it. Now.
Speaker 2: I will say this scene that I loved because I'm
Speaker 2: a faithful OSI viewer.
Speaker 6: Vicky and her son Michael, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I was so excited to see him again. I cannot
Speaker 3: believe he's forty.
Speaker 6: Carlos and hot. I can say that he's straight.
Speaker 3: Carlos, you're doing.
Speaker 6: I know, and I stood up straight when he appeared
Speaker 6: on my screen. The thing is the thing.
Speaker 4: But he has and if and he lives in Spain, Carlos,
Speaker 4: that would be very exciting for you to travel to
Speaker 4: Spain to see your boyfriend.
Speaker 3: I mean, hello the case.
Speaker 4: I just I love seeing them back together. I love
Speaker 4: the flashbacks from back when Vicki firsts twenty years ago,
Speaker 4: and he's like literally going off to college and I'm
Speaker 4: just putting myself in those shoes and I'm like, oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, this is so her life. Ben is exactly
Speaker 4: where my life is now.
Speaker 6: Yes, sending everyone.
Speaker 3: Off to college. I'm like, open the door, there they go. Bye.
Speaker 4: They're all flying off to college and married life.
Speaker 6: So it was it was so good seeing him. He
Speaker 6: looks great.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if you know this, but
Speaker 2: do you know that Michael is the one who wrote
Speaker 2: the letter for Viki to get on housewives what So
Speaker 2: apparently when they were looking for women behind the gates
Speaker 2: in Orange County, Michael saw some.
Speaker 4: Kind of an ad or something and then because back
Speaker 4: then we didn't have.
Speaker 3: Phones, so we were you're you're chicken scratching it.
Speaker 4: You're like right, So he wrote the letter to the
Speaker 4: newspaper that said when they said calling out for hot moms,
Speaker 4: and he wrote the letter and then, oh my god,
Speaker 4: do you know what the letter said?
Speaker 3: Please tell me you have that information.
Speaker 2: I will try to get a Jamie see if you
Speaker 2: can find the letter what is said and how it
Speaker 2: happened for me.
Speaker 4: But zing if not, I'll call Vicky and ask her
Speaker 4: to send it to me for our next podcast next week.
Speaker 3: I will ask her. If you can't find it, yeah,
Speaker 3: text me. I'm gonna yeah, Okay, yep. She would love
Speaker 3: sharing that. And it's that is so freakin' cool.
Speaker 2: That is Brad, No, it is, and look and look
Speaker 2: how much their lives has changed. And the one thing
Speaker 2: that made me sad was when he revealed that he
Speaker 2: and his sister Brianna haven't seen each other eight years.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, because you know, I
Speaker 4: have also parentlests, so I don't have a parent, so
Speaker 4: my closest ken is my brother. But also you all
Speaker 4: are closer to your siblings because your parents, you know,
Speaker 4: you are closer in age.
Speaker 3: To your siblings, and you guys have to rock this
Speaker 3: world together. That is so sad.
Speaker 4: It's almost like we want to Carlos, we should put
Speaker 4: our funds together and mail them a ticket so that
Speaker 4: they can meet somewhere like Vegas and then we can
Speaker 4: all show up together.
Speaker 6: They're nepo babies, they have the money, which which.
Speaker 2: Okay, my opinion, my opinion, my opinion, there's nothing more
Speaker 2: to the story because oh, alexis eight years well.
Speaker 4: Vicky says they FaceTime. Nope, Vicky says, they FaceTime all
Speaker 4: the time. And I'm telling you, life does get busy
Speaker 4: when you have kids. First of all, Michael is in.
Speaker 3: His prime right now. He does not seem like he
Speaker 3: wants to have kids.
Speaker 4: He's kind of like, mom, I'm not going to have
Speaker 4: kids right He's in She's in mom mode and had
Speaker 4: kids a little bit young, you know, like started. I
Speaker 4: think they just kind of went like this, and it's
Speaker 4: just timing. And it's hard if you don't make the
Speaker 4: vacation to go see you because we only get so
Speaker 4: much time off, right If you don't make the effort
Speaker 4: to make that vacation to go to Spain to see
Speaker 4: your brother or go to us to see your sister.
Speaker 3: Then you're not It's just not their priority right now.
Speaker 3: I think they will. I think they'll come back. You
Speaker 3: think there's more. Think they're fighting.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm curious if he I'm curious if Michael
Speaker 2: and his sister's husband getting along or not.
Speaker 3: Oh, I was going to ask you that.
Speaker 4: I was going to say, do you think it's the husband's.
Speaker 2: It's something that the thing is this, Let's be real here.
Speaker 2: They are the only siblings to each other, right you
Speaker 2: not seeing your sister and FaceTime with her.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Alexis. In eight years, you can catch a flight.
Speaker 4: Right by the way, if you're popping a baby out
Speaker 4: and you're my sibling, I'm coming to see my freaking
Speaker 4: niece or nephew. I'm flying my arse. I don't care
Speaker 4: where you are, I'm going to. You can be in
Speaker 4: Timbuctu and I'm coming to see I meet my niece
Speaker 4: and nephew.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And for me, it's one of those.
Speaker 6: Things where I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think I'm just curious if Michael does not
Speaker 2: get along with his sister's husband.
Speaker 6: Oh update, I have an update.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, hey, John, read your text please because there's
Speaker 4: an update for Carlos.
Speaker 3: But I also had I'm texting my husband right now too.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, Okay, all right, breaking news, rain draws,
Speaker 2: breaking news.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: Michael responded to someone saying, visit your sister.
Speaker 6: It's been a minute.
Speaker 3: But what is his response?
Speaker 6: You ready for this?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael says, I've never been invited out there, and
Speaker 2: she doesn't visit California. I was living in Hawaii and
Speaker 2: now Spain a couple of years ago. I said I
Speaker 2: wanted to visit when I was fairly close to Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: and she said it wasn't a good time because of
Speaker 2: her husband, who I don't get along with very well.
Speaker 3: By, you were right, it's the husband. Okay, here's the problem.
Speaker 4: I have a brother and if I didn't get along
Speaker 4: with his wife, which I do and I love her,
Speaker 4: but if I didn't, I would still say I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna come by.
Speaker 3: It sounds like it's on Brionnas or on the sister's side.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have more for you. I agree with you
Speaker 6: and have more.
Speaker 3: Oh God.
Speaker 2: Somebody asked him, why haven't you seen your sister in
Speaker 2: eight years?
Speaker 6: Do you guys talk at least or FaceTime?
Speaker 2: Michael goes, yes, we are in a group chat with
Speaker 2: my mom and have friendly personal convos. I will prefer
Speaker 2: if we could see each other in person. We were
Speaker 2: sending each other pugs we want a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: So look, it's that's the reason why they haven't seen
Speaker 2: each other in eight years.
Speaker 3: And I feel sad.
Speaker 6: It makes it makes me sad.
Speaker 2: And look, Bicky has to be heartbroken because what we
Speaker 2: all know, besides being an amazing career woman, she's an
Speaker 2: amazing mom and she loves her children.
Speaker 3: She's all about family.
Speaker 4: That girl loves her family, her mom rest in peace,
Speaker 4: her brother, her she loves family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's really sad.
Speaker 4: Carlos Okay, well, I'm glad we just dished that out
Speaker 4: to America.
Speaker 2: All right, shout out to Spencer okay for giving as
Speaker 2: a tidbit. So one of the things that also happened
Speaker 2: is this, I'm into this Tamra and Jen as a duo. Hello,
Speaker 2: oh Alexis speak now for hepoltr piece. But you don't
Speaker 2: seem to be in agreement.
Speaker 6: With me.
Speaker 3: Because I can't lie. But I'm like, I really don't
Speaker 3: want to go there.
Speaker 2: I want you to go there because I don't want
Speaker 2: you to go there with your friend.
Speaker 6: Have I respect it? Behave well?
Speaker 4: Not talking about anyone's character. This is just talking about
Speaker 4: a scene.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 3: I really really love Tamra and I really really Lovedjen. Okay,
Speaker 3: I really do appreciate both of them.
Speaker 4: I just for some reason for me, maybe I'm a
Speaker 4: whack adoodle. I sit back and go, where is it
Speaker 4: going to fall out?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel almost.
Speaker 4: Anxious when they're together because I just don't know if
Speaker 4: I buy it.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm watching. What I'm saying is
Speaker 3: when I'm watching the scenes, you know, because I'm.
Speaker 4: Putting myself, I take myself out of like actually knowing
Speaker 4: some of these people to just like watching a show
Speaker 4: where I'm like trying to, you know, take.
Speaker 3: Myself out of my body and just watch the show.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. Part of me is just like, okay,
Speaker 3: is it really going to last? Are they really?
Speaker 4: I do like it, and I do want Shannon and
Speaker 4: Tamra to also be able to get along because it's
Speaker 4: really awkward to film a reality show when there's such
Speaker 4: a beef that you can't put it behind you and
Speaker 4: just go, we're here to work, like you and I've
Speaker 4: had this conversation many a times, Carlos, and it's just
Speaker 4: you have to be able to put everything aside and work.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I feel I feel a little
Speaker 4: bit anxious when they're together.
Speaker 2: And that's fair, Alexis, that's fair. And the reason why
Speaker 2: it's fair is because you know that sometimes you.
Speaker 6: Have to get along because it's your job.
Speaker 2: Yes, And when a friendship isn't based upon being genuine,
Speaker 2: any small thing can unravel the bond, right, And that's
Speaker 2: why you have to give it up to these two ladies.
Speaker 6: Like them or not.
Speaker 2: Emily and Gina are the best of friends and nothing
Speaker 2: is going to come in between that, like nothing, nothing,
Speaker 2: And you believe there friendship.
Speaker 6: You know it's real.
Speaker 2: Even when they have moments of calling each other out,
Speaker 2: they find way back together. And to your point of lexit,
Speaker 2: you're not anxious because you know nothing's gonna happen between them.
Speaker 2: But I really do want Tamar again to figure it
Speaker 2: out because I do like seeing them together.
Speaker 6: And I'll say this much.
Speaker 2: I buy that they're trying to figure out more than
Speaker 2: this bullshit that happened at the end with Shannon and Tamarra.
Speaker 6: That will get to in a second. So stay tuned, listeners.
Speaker 3: Okay, because I'm like my ariage. Did you see me?
Speaker 4: I went like yeah, okay, I'm not gonna yeah, Okay,
Speaker 4: keep going.
Speaker 2: We'll get into the Captain Zata Jones school of crying
Speaker 2: in a second.
Speaker 6: Now, with that being said.
Speaker 4: We have to Heather McDonald's school of tripping.
Speaker 3: So love you Heather McDonald.
Speaker 6: Love you Heather McDonald's.
Speaker 3: And by the way, she does not take herself serio.
Speaker 3: She is the most like.
Speaker 6: She doesn't care, she doesn't care, she doesn't care. I
Speaker 6: love her.
Speaker 3: She showed her three times in that video. Okay, keep going.
Speaker 6: So they me with Carmela, and Carmela.
Speaker 2: Said it was a bold accusation to accuse her of
Speaker 2: trying to buy her princh with Emily over the bag.
Speaker 2: Tamer's like, girl, I also heard that you paid thirty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a month for your rent, and Carmela's like,
Speaker 2: why these girls talking.
Speaker 6: About me and my money? Like what is happening here?
Speaker 4: Because Carlos it is so true. What Carmelo is feeling
Speaker 4: is so true. When you're in real life, there is
Speaker 4: not a friendship or a group of women you're around
Speaker 4: where everyone's dissecting what each person has or makes or
Speaker 4: or what the you know, I don't there's just it
Speaker 4: is not a normal you're on a TV show. So
Speaker 4: Carmela is getting involved and now with a group of
Speaker 4: girls who they're here to create some stories, okay, and
Speaker 4: it just there's not one group of friends and I
Speaker 4: have some world group of friends and that we ever
Speaker 4: sit around and go what's your car payment?
Speaker 3: Oh wait, are you riding that car? Are you leasing
Speaker 3: that car? Or do you own that car?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: How much is that ham?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Oh wait, you just got that yesterday. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 3: when did you get that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: By the way, you put a dildo in that. There
Speaker 3: is no we do not have friendships like that.
Speaker 4: And you also don't get mad at somebody at the
Speaker 4: table about you know, and throw napkins.
Speaker 3: You just don't say it.
Speaker 2: Have we surched rolls today?
Speaker 6: I mean no, no, what you said earlier, I'm in
Speaker 6: the you're in the black, I'm in the white. So
Speaker 6: that's what.
Speaker 4: I am a little feisty today. Last night I had swordfish.
Speaker 4: Oh sword fish, maybe that's all.
Speaker 6: I had oyster mushrooms and noodles.
Speaker 4: Well, noodles made you softer today, and my swordfish.
Speaker 6: Made me, oh baby. Stay tuned because we haven't got
Speaker 6: the Tamas party yet.
Speaker 3: Okay, but we've got you know, I've got a hurt.
Speaker 4: Looking at the clocklock, Okay, what were your thoughts when Vicky, Shannon,
Speaker 4: Head and Tamara they were on the boat doing their thing.
Speaker 6: And in this.
Speaker 3: What in this.
Speaker 6: Scene, Shannon sent Tamera a text.
Speaker 2: Offering to help her with decorations for a Tamra's party
Speaker 2: that is happening in this episode. Wow, I've never seen
Speaker 2: anything so genuine in my life that allows me to
Speaker 2: believe Shannon did that without a producer whispering her ear
Speaker 2: do it for the show.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, wa wa wa, but you just
Speaker 4: nailed it on the head. It's like, you gotta do
Speaker 4: this and here's what, here's what your job is today,
Speaker 4: and you know the whole time, you know, the whole time,
Speaker 4: Shannon's going do it.
Speaker 3: No letter at a time, two hours to get that
Speaker 3: one text.
Speaker 6: Alexi, this is Shan doing it. Oh my god, I
Speaker 6: got I can't get up.
Speaker 3: I can't owe my phone. I just threw it in
Speaker 3: the head, actually ended up in the shower. Oh dang, No,
Speaker 3: I can't send the text because I don't have my phone.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, it fell, it broke. So somebody get
Speaker 6: some rice, bore rice and my phone water. Shit. We're okay,
Speaker 6: I digress, got.
Speaker 3: It, Carlos. Okay, that was very too funny.
Speaker 4: No, but you know what, here's the dell. No, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be okay, I'm gonna be serious now, Okay, I
Speaker 4: can't ok.
Speaker 6: Goad ALAXI stop laughing. We're serious.
Speaker 3: I'm being serious. Okay.
Speaker 4: I do feel like I've been wanting this because I'm
Speaker 4: almost cringing at the fact that Tamar has been trying
Speaker 4: for two years to get Shannon to just say, look,
Speaker 4: we're making a lot.
Speaker 3: Of money here to make this TV show. Let's just
Speaker 3: get along.
Speaker 4: And finally, you know, Shannon is like, okay, I'll send
Speaker 4: the text, even though you know it took her probably
Speaker 4: seven hours to send those two sentences. But but I'm
Speaker 4: glad it happened, because you know what, we are watching it, Carlos,
Speaker 4: as viewers. We need to be able to see them
Speaker 4: at least be able to work in the room together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: Okay, well I was boring.
Speaker 2: No, no, wait and tell the party. Okay, I think
Speaker 2: that happened that I was. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: This is the Vickie that I love.
Speaker 6: So they're talking about Carmela again, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, buying buying this two thousand, seven hundred dollars bag
Speaker 2: with a dial. Though Vicky said, oh please, Carmela got
Speaker 2: naked for money, she is not impressed.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. This is what I love about Vicky,
Speaker 4: and this is why we needed her back.
Speaker 3: On our screen. Vicky does not give two shits. Okay
Speaker 3: she is. She is just like and you know what
Speaker 3: the funniest part.
Speaker 4: About Vicky is you you can't really hate her.
Speaker 3: You got a lover her. Even though she's being like that.
Speaker 4: Are you not cracking up every time she says one
Speaker 4: of those lines, I'm laughing and I'm like, okay, well
Speaker 4: I've been on the receiving end of that, by the way,
Speaker 4: and now she was my friend and you know, but
Speaker 4: it's like, I don't know, I just laugh.
Speaker 2: I find it hysterical and I freaking love it.
Speaker 3: I know what, Carlo, she know what it is. It's genuine.
Speaker 4: It's not like she's playing a role like certain people
Speaker 4: are trying to play roles.
Speaker 3: She's just heard. She's just it's just organic. I guess
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, again, she's not playing up to the cameras.
Speaker 2: Even when Habit said, oh, Vicky, that's inappropriate, It's like, Heather,
Speaker 2: you believe the same thing. But again, you're a constant
Speaker 2: of the cameras and you don't. You're trying to say
Speaker 2: what is right on social media. That is that is
Speaker 2: kind of PC.
Speaker 6: But I like that.
Speaker 2: Vickie's like, I don't care like she listen, Do I
Speaker 2: agree with it? No, But I find it to be entertaining.
Speaker 2: I'm entertained by Vicki.
Speaker 4: It's amusing, okay, And when it feels organic, I like it,
Speaker 4: just like Carmela.
Speaker 3: Carmela is organic. You can like her or not like her.
Speaker 3: I don't even know.
Speaker 4: I haven't googled to see what her ratings are or
Speaker 4: what people if the viewers are loving her or not.
Speaker 4: All I know is I'm enjoying her, and she's organic
Speaker 4: and she's herself, and that's I like when you can
Speaker 4: read that on the screen and not feel like someone's
Speaker 4: putting up a roll and worried about the cameras and
Speaker 4: what's their next shit going to be?
Speaker 3: You know all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly what is happening. They like her.
Speaker 2: The audience does like her, all right, So Tamra has
Speaker 2: a party on her home. Shannon rites first because she
Speaker 2: wants to help with the decorations, all right, So then
Speaker 2: the ladies.
Speaker 6: All come over.
Speaker 4: Okay, they brought a blanket and a couple sombreros.
Speaker 6: They didn't break at the orb.
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, the whole party is already going
Speaker 4: on in the back, but let me just throw this
Speaker 4: blanket on the table just to make it look like
Speaker 4: I was bringing, you know, some death and and a
Speaker 4: big box with a couple bright colored balls that look
Speaker 4: Mexican in a blanket to throw over the table.
Speaker 6: It was. It was all of that and more.
Speaker 2: And look Carmela comes up again, which I was kind
Speaker 2: of disappointed that she wasn't there.
Speaker 4: I know it would have added a new flavor, a
Speaker 4: little diff different flavors, but I still loved.
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, I'm just gonna start with us.
Speaker 4: I loved the box put the person in the box
Speaker 4: party idea, I'm even going to do that at my
Speaker 4: next party when I have just all the girls over.
Speaker 4: I just loved it, and you put in the box
Speaker 4: what you think of that person? I just I was
Speaker 4: dying over. I loved it good.
Speaker 6: I love the idea. I love the idea.
Speaker 2: Vickie throws another dig at Carmela, saying that she's nothing
Speaker 2: but an administrative assistant at the front desk. VICKI is hysterical.
Speaker 2: I don't care if y'all like it or not. It's funny,
Speaker 2: it's entertaining. She is, she is being herself.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you that.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you something. Okay, do you agree
Speaker 4: with Vicky on that? Or do you think Carmela is
Speaker 4: established and has has made her own way and is
Speaker 4: doing a good job.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, I don't know much about her yet
Speaker 2: to say if you if you ask me about Vicky,
Speaker 2: obviously I've had a decade, right yeah to say.
Speaker 6: No, she's a real deal. I The thing with Carmela
Speaker 6: is we're figuring it out. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought it was smart to show her with a
Speaker 2: client was a business partner.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a client, but maybe it was.
Speaker 6: I think I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, so I thought it was nice to
Speaker 2: kind of see her work and doing her thing and listen,
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But listen, maybe Vicky
Speaker 2: knows more than we do. And that's why that, to me,
Speaker 2: is going to be interesting when all of that comes
Speaker 2: to a head. So they're at Camera's boxing party. So
Speaker 2: they're playing a game where they want to see where
Speaker 2: everyone stands by throwing.
Speaker 6: A statement in a box that.
Speaker 2: Each girl has to put how you feel about everyone
Speaker 2: Tamera's box. Shannon says she walks on egg shells around her,
Speaker 2: which makes sense, which was tracks right?
Speaker 4: I mean, Alex always sorry, Okay, if the tune they
Speaker 4: want to know what just happened?
Speaker 6: Huh watch YouTube, guys.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I mean though, right, Carlos, you
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 2: It is is that the L sign it's no V
Speaker 2: for victim V of course.
Speaker 6: Okay, this will be good. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: In this moment, oh, in this moment, In this moment, okay,
Speaker 2: please do I understand.
Speaker 6: I understand why Shannon would.
Speaker 2: Feel the need to walk on eggs shells because Tamra
Speaker 2: did do things to her that questions whether or not
Speaker 2: they can give back to being besties.
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 3: Then, well, then Tamara needs to put that in Shannon's
Speaker 3: box too, Carlos.
Speaker 6: She should.
Speaker 2: But when you're being told by everybody you have to
Speaker 2: clean up your act, what is Tamas supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Which is why when she gave the Cameron Diaz performance.
Speaker 6: At the end.
Speaker 3: Oh lord, Okay, I don't know where you're going.
Speaker 6: We'll talk about that in a second.
Speaker 5: So well, I'm just saying I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I'm saying I get what Shannon is saying.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's hard if you walk on egg shells, but hey,
Speaker 2: you're starting on the right path of offering to decorate.
Speaker 6: So anyway I do.
Speaker 2: Okay, Emily calls Vicky a Debbie Downer and Biggie gets offended.
Speaker 2: But again, I can see that through the eyes of Emily, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: Tamara calls Heather her social bestie. Okay, get that through
Speaker 2: the eye of camera. Okay, I agree with that.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: Then Heather and Jen get into it because earlier, Jen
Speaker 2: is informed that Heather thinks she is a little bit
Speaker 2: too obsessed with what's going on to her and Tamera,
Speaker 2: and that's why she is concerned about whether or not
Speaker 2: Jen's a friend. Jen got upset too and was like,
Speaker 2: you know what that word does. It triggers me because
Speaker 2: all last season Tama was saying I am obsessed with her,
Speaker 2: so I understood where Jin was.
Speaker 6: Coming from in this case.
Speaker 2: But hey, they both did apologize to each other, because again,
Speaker 2: this beef isn't it has no legs to stand on.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, well.
Speaker 4: Like you and I both said at the beginning of
Speaker 4: this episode or this podcast and last week's podcast, they're
Speaker 4: just reaching for things to argue about.
Speaker 3: They're reaching for things.
Speaker 4: So Carlos, you know, with that said, we all wanted
Speaker 4: fun and levity back. Do you think there's as a
Speaker 4: producer put your producer cap on now, is there a
Speaker 4: way to really keep a reality show going if there's
Speaker 4: not the drama?
Speaker 3: Because I was so over kind of all.
Speaker 4: The nitpicking and drama, and now I feel like we're
Speaker 4: nitpicking even further, like to talk about a handbag and
Speaker 4: a dildo over or a vibrator over like like real beef.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's kind of I'm kind of perplexed
Speaker 4: after this episode to be honest about how I feel
Speaker 4: about it, because it's like I'm so over the drama,
Speaker 4: so let's just have fun now.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, okay, we'll bring back some real drama.
Speaker 4: Not worrying about you know, if someone actually dry cleaned
Speaker 4: their dress or they washed it in their washing machine.
Speaker 3: You know, like it's like stupid stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen, high audience, high people on social media,
Speaker 2: the point zero one percent of you.
Speaker 6: I hope you are happy.
Speaker 2: You have water down Tamra to the point where her
Speaker 2: crying over Shannon. Listen, I'm not even mad at Tamra.
Speaker 2: Tamar gave the performance that belongs on a Netflix special
Speaker 2: or on TV. The me, the thing for me was
Speaker 2: this is what happens when you listen to people on
Speaker 2: social media when you're trying to make a.
Speaker 6: TV show, especially a reality show.
Speaker 2: I am not I don't give two shits about Tamar
Speaker 2: and Shanna being friends.
Speaker 6: I don't care. They're not. They don't like each other,
Speaker 6: and it's okay.
Speaker 4: I think the reason why you feel that way, and
Speaker 4: I think this is the reality of the fact, is
Speaker 4: that we know they're not really going to call each
Speaker 4: other up for a cup of coffee. We know that,
Speaker 4: But at the same time, you can still just kind
Speaker 4: of exist with someone that you have to film a
Speaker 4: reality show with.
Speaker 3: I mean you have it exists, exists.
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean I'm crying.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean I'm crying because you send me a
Speaker 2: text h that you were told to That's where things
Speaker 2: got lost. It's not interesting. Tamar was trying her best
Speaker 2: to say, I am going to try to make things right.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying to the audience is when you want
Speaker 2: to show that doesn't have any meat to the potatoes,
Speaker 2: you then want people fired. And what Tamar is doing,
Speaker 2: Tamar is proving to you, guys, I'm going to be
Speaker 2: Pollyanna and you tell me whether or not this show
Speaker 2: is interesting.
Speaker 6: And I'm here to say to you it's it's go ahead.
Speaker 3: No go because I there's a pause.
Speaker 4: I think, but I think that you're right, and I
Speaker 4: think that I think she's really she's got Like I said,
Speaker 4: I think she has PTSD from last season of being
Speaker 4: called too much. She's just overhearing that word that she's
Speaker 4: the villain when all people really need to be saying
Speaker 4: is she's the storyline pusher. She pushes the storyline, she
Speaker 4: creates actual, real things.
Speaker 3: And so I don't know. I think that you're right,
Speaker 3: I can't wait till the end of this.
Speaker 4: On our final episode, Carlos on the final episode, I
Speaker 4: can't wait for us to both do our research on
Speaker 4: what the polls say and where everyone stands with Tamra
Speaker 4: at the end of.
Speaker 6: The that's the thing.
Speaker 2: That's the thing I think when you rely so much
Speaker 2: on what And this is me speaking as producer, I
Speaker 2: do not make creative decisions based on what the people
Speaker 2: on social media, the point zero one percent of the
Speaker 2: world I have to say about my shows or my
Speaker 2: cast I'm their boss. I'm the one who casts them,
Speaker 2: not you. You can't tell me how anyone should be. I
Speaker 2: don't care to listen. I'm here to say. Seeing what's
Speaker 2: going on on OC this season is unfortunate because a
Speaker 2: show that was once having three consecutive amazing seasons of
Speaker 2: real story, real meat to the potatoes, real life argument,
Speaker 2: real story, has now fallen too back to the comfort
Speaker 2: zone of well, let's just all play like we are
Speaker 2: going to be friends versus no, let's actually do the
Speaker 2: work to get there. And what's not happening is real conversations.
Speaker 2: What's happening is send her a text and say I'll decorate,
Speaker 2: respond to the decoration because you have been so blamed
Speaker 2: for what has been dark that we're trying to save
Speaker 2: you to be liked. And I'm here to say to
Speaker 2: all reality stars who are listening, if you live your
Speaker 2: career for the applause, you would die by their.
Speaker 4: Booze ah, whoa pearls. That should have been your tagline.
Speaker 4: Holy cow, that's freaking ingenious.
Speaker 3: That is so true. Did you really make that up
Speaker 3: just now or did you read that somewhere now? It
Speaker 3: was true?
Speaker 6: It was true, true, And I know you have to
Speaker 6: go on a second, but can you please, please, please,
Speaker 6: please please.
Speaker 3: My dog is wanting my banana.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm wanting to have a final word. Can you
Speaker 2: please explain to the audience how you felt your last
Speaker 2: season when the audience was terrible to you on social
Speaker 2: media and what that did to you as a human.
Speaker 3: Oh, Carlos, I mean I don't think you.
Speaker 4: I don't want to end the pod on a negative note.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was in therapy, I was getting death threats.
Speaker 4: I was I was, you know, crying every night on
Speaker 4: John's shoulder, Like what did I do?
Speaker 3: Why did I go back? Like you know it?
Speaker 4: I know and everyone like you and all the big
Speaker 4: the higher ups everywhere that you you know, in this
Speaker 4: business that you work in, we're all like Alexis, it's
Speaker 4: point oh one percent of the people that you're listening
Speaker 4: to on social media.
Speaker 3: I went off social media for like four month.
Speaker 4: I didn't post anything, and I just I just My
Speaker 4: kids were like worried and they're like, mom, you know,
Speaker 4: like we.
Speaker 3: Hate what's happening to you.
Speaker 4: I mean, it is devastating what it did though to me,
Speaker 4: Carlos Is, it made me very strong.
Speaker 3: It also made my children very strong.
Speaker 4: It made everyone realize that, you know, it is a
Speaker 4: short lived you know. One of the biggest pieces of
Speaker 4: advice I got from some of the people behind the scenes,
Speaker 4: like producers and people behind the scenes was lex, it's
Speaker 4: this They're going to forget about you and and this
Speaker 4: whole season.
Speaker 3: By next season you won't even be it won't even
Speaker 3: be a deal like it. Just just go with it,
Speaker 3: ride the wave. And it was true. It was true.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like, yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: I was the hated, most hated person for un What
Speaker 4: I didn't like is that it wasn't authentic reasons.
Speaker 3: I was hated for reasons that.
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of the truth wasn't really shown,
Speaker 4: so that was what hurt my feelings the most.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's like, here
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 4: And everyone got over it, and everyone kind of really
Speaker 4: still knows who I am. Maybe you can follow my
Speaker 4: Instagram and see.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what advice I would give to everyone
Speaker 4: about that. It is hard.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard. Okay, last thing.
Speaker 2: We'll be by the way, what would be your season
Speaker 2: twenty tag line if you were a housewife this season?
Speaker 3: Okay, we're ending in on a happy note there, because
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it la. I don't know, Well, it
Speaker 3: has to involve hold on. It has to involve Jesus Jugs. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's who I am on this. Okay, what about hold on?
Speaker 4: I must, I must really love the jjs, Jesus Jugs
Speaker 4: and John Janssen ah or or I'm full of Jays,
Speaker 4: Jesus Jugs and John Jansen.
Speaker 2: Jenius, my girlfriend Alexis Jackson, I love you, the pieces
Speaker 2: have a good beating. I love you and will see
Speaker 2: you next week. Rain drops, Bye guys, Bye baby.