WEBVTT - Heather DuBOXED! | RHOC Recap with Alexis Janssen 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.560 favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:32.920 scripted as well. 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.720 Happy Friday, you have well listen Rain Dawns. If you're listening, 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.200 remember go to my YouTube channel so you can see 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.240 all of his glory of Alexis Jansen and I because 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:51.720 we booked a wrink glasses. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.479 Yesay, I like it. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.960 You were the white, I wore the black. Okay, we 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.120 flipped there we go. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:14.000 What look Ebony and Ivory are back together. So you 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:14.759 are such a hoot. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.440 How are you, Love, I'm good. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.280 I'm good. Anything new in your world. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.440 You know, listen, just living the dream and and setting 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:26.080 the standard. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:26.800 That's that's. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:29.400 Super private. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.720 Doesn't tell anything happening in his life anyway. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:36.080 So okay, well, you know, Love, I'm trying to figure 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.040 out a lot that's been going on. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.200 With my show, ohc because. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.880 Listen, so brain drops, we're recapping the Real house Watch 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:52.200 of Orange County. This is episode four, right, so the 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.080 Beauty of Alexis an I. We do not talk about 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:59.040 the show prior to hitting the record button, so we 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.160 have no idea, uh what we are. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:01.840 About to say. 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.080 But can I tell you something? 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.480 Of course you can always. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.079 I already knew what you were gonna say. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.040 I will be let me let me see if I 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:13.880 give me if on a one to ten, how close 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.240 I am to what you were going to say? 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.440 Alexis. Oh honey, Alexis, this. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:27.280 Show needs tamera, Like, I just get the picture you 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.640 going this This episode was so boring and I have 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.960 to kind of derail you a little and be like, okay, Carlos, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.880 let's peel it back a little. Let's calm down a 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.120 little bit. Okay, am I what on a scale of 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:37.560 one to ten? 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.359 Am I five on you? 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:39.639 Ten? 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:40.840 Being yes, I nailed it. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.280 Well. The thing about you, you are an over teamer, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.840 so you are over ten. 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.600 You're betting at a twenty. So listen, I don't have 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.120 to start things off so less. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:56.320 Just with that. With that, of course, with that, so 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:57.400 how about we do this. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.640 Let's just start from the beginning and see how we 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:04.639 work our way through. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.760 You want to do that, sure, but you. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:09.239 Know I have a heart out today today. We can't 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.760 go longer, which we might. It's something long episodes go longer. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.360 But let me ask you this. I wanted to start 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.480 with one thing. We never discussed the taglines because this 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.280 was such a boring episode. I thought, you know what, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.800 let's go back. I want to ask Carlos his what 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.360 he thought I ever wrote him down? I mean, look 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.400 at look at my I wrote him down because I'm like, 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.200 I couldn't remember him. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:29.960 Do you know him? 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.080 Now? So read them to us, and I'll grade it 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:39.280 from a look, okay, five being great? 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:40.480 Five being great? 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.120 Okay, let's go okay, Okay, so I. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:44.600 Will read them. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.840 Okay, So Heather, my motives are like my taste best 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.760 left unquestioned. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.119 To three and a half. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.480 Oh okay, Shannon, how do I hold it all together? 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:02.240 Brazilians and shapewear? Okay, Well, you can't just say it 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.040 because if you don't like, oh god, okay, you're like, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.640 you cannot be like this. You got to be objective. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.240 I'm honest, no, no, all, I'm honest. I'm honest you 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:11.160 just like I thought. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:12.960 I kind of thought it was I thought my kind 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.920 of decent because I'm like, well, she does work shape 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.480 for everywhere, so at least she owns it. 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:18.960 I liked it. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.360 Okay, okay, so Jin, the truth speaks volumes and I'm 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:23.400 about to turn it up. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:27.839 A four? Who was that? Who was that? 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:28.440 That was Jen? 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:30.120 Okay? A four? 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.839 Okay, Gina, Gina. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.120 Okay, just because I'm spoken for, it doesn't mean I 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.359 won't speak up. 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:44.640 To three Okay, Okay, Emily, Emily. My body may be new, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.920 but my mouth is the same as always. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:52.200 Four Okay, Tamera, I'm still the hottest housewife, and. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:52.960 That's my opinion. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:56.560 Three Okay. 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:58.680 I thought if she would have done it more like 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.240 she would have gone, I'm still the hottest housewife. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.599 But that's my opinion, and done it like the way 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.599 she did it would have made it like I agree 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:06.839 with you. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.360 The way she did it, she goes, and that's my opinion. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:10.279 I'm sorry, Tam. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:11.320 I love you. You know you're one of my. 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.400 Tam But we understand because everyone's telling you the tone 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:15.600 of down, so you're. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:16.960 Telling you to shut up, and you did it. Now 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:18.920 the season's fucking boring. Okay, oh my. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.800 Gosh, I just drop the f bom I'm gonna hear 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.719 from my kids later. Okay, Vicky lives, come and go, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.000 but legends we whoop it up forever. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.040 A four. I like, I kind of like it. I 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:35.880 do like it. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:39.039 Carmela, what, no, go? 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:40.480 What what were you gonna say? 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.760 I think it's what you said about tam Run is 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.159 you have to own. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:48.280 The delivery of it. Yeah, it's a stick to me. 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.520 All right, Carmela, I'm the center of attention and the centerfold. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:54.279 A five. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.400 Isn't that a good one? It's so under It's like 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:58.920 it's like once it's easy. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.720 I know. Okay, Okay, So Carmarla might be gaining our 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.320 favoritism too much. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:04.559 We need to pull it back a little. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.840 No, I mean listen that. But but I mean, which 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:09.640 one was your favorite? 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.920 I really, for some reason, I really liked Vicki's. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.599 I think it's because it wasn't too like over the top, 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.000 but it is like whoop was her. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.760 Thing and she is the legend. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.760 So I I loved Tamras, but I thought she didn't 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.800 do it. I was like, oh my gosh, that would 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:28.599 have been brilliant if she would have screamed. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:29.880 And that's my opinion, you know. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.640 But she she's toning everything down the red. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.440 I mean, I liked all of them. I kind of 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.200 liked all of them. I think I thought Jens was 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.280 kind of boring and you gave her a four. But 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:39.760 I loved it. 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:43.880 I liked it because I felt like it was who 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.599 she is. As I'm watching the season, Tamra and Vicki 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.400 were a nod to their legacy on the show as 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.440 we're celebrating twenty seasons. So but I agree with you. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.920 I would have loved there as better if the delivery 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:58.360 was there. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.039 Okay, So what would your tagline, b Carlos if you 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:03.000 were a housewife? 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.040 I know, I know, I know they don't have men 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.159 housewives and gay housewives, but if they did, what would 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:08.520 yours be? 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.920 Okay, okay, listen, this one will be for the gays. 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:19.480 Ooh okay, you ready? No, this is Carlos King's gay 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.160 Housewives tagline. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:22.160 Oh okay. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.360 I started out as a bottom, but now I'm on top. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:37.200 Ooh okay, okay, that deserved a whole bin. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.560 What honey, that's good. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.280 I'm here on night. Alexis I'm here all night, baby, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:46.840 I'll go. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.960 I had your caffeine this morning to come. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.880 Look, although you're not here. On good we got forty 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.280 five minutes, but I am here. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.480 We have exactly forty seven minutes left to go, no, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.560 forty six minutes left to go before I have to 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.160 be Okay. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:07.200 So let's get into it. So the episode starts out. Listen, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:12.520 So Shannon, Gene and Emily are meeting. They're doing tiktoks, 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:19.280 and they are also discussing Carmela, which listen, I don't 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.720 know how I'm gonna get through this this recap, unfortunately, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.360 because well they got. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.280 I started with something fun. I played a little time. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.560 I know, but but La said, you know me, you 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:35.439 can Alexa. You can physically see me trying to feel it. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:43.199 Okay, it's the fact that Carmela buying Emily a d 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:47.960 R bag is becoming the biggest drama so far. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.280 By any way, that handbag was only twenty seven hundred. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.680 It was not three grand, so it was you know, 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:55.920 people were talking about the price. I googled it because 0:08:55.960 --> 0:09:00.360 you know me, detective, it was and I have been 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.600 in the Deer store lately, so it was twenty seven 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:03.880 hundred for that deer bag. 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:08.920 Beautiful bag, beautiful bag. Here's the deal for me. And again, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:10.720 this is your world, right. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.800 You live in Orange County, your friend, A lot of 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:14.680 your friends are there. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.160 I really need to know this from you. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:25.000 I have friends that obviously have money, and there are 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:27.240 certain of my friends, certain of them. 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.480 Who like to give a nice gift. You know. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:34.040 Now, granted we're friends, so I think I earned it, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.040 you know for sure. But when it comes to Carmela 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:42.480 gifting Emily, yes, they haven't become real friends, she's just 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:47.199 met her. Is that abnormal to gift somebody a twenty 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.280 seven hundred dollars gift. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:49.760 In the Orange County? 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.280 You know, I never thought you would ask this question. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.160 I didn't know if we would go there. But I 0:09:55.400 --> 0:10:00.160 have different groups of friends. I have five friends that 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.440 are my closest friends that know pretty much everything, and 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.280 that's that's my that's my inner circle. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:07.480 I have all different kinds of groups of friends. 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:13.040 Also, Okay, there are groups of friends that it's known, 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:15.920 if you're going to come to this birthday party, you 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:16.800 are bringing. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:18.040 An expensive gift. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.240 And then there's groups of friends that it's like, don't 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.400 bring a gift don't even bring a darn cake, just 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.480 come to the party, like, and they still have money, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.760 like most of my I mean, I don't even know 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:28.520 if I have do I have? 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.040 Oh, I have a couple of broke friends. It's okay. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.520 But anyway, I'm using this China Lea through. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.480 Most of them have money, and it doesn't matter if 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.679 they have a ton of money or a little money. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:40.360 Some of the ones with the most money are like, 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.760 don't bring a gift at all. Some of the ones 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.000 with the most money say you better wearing a fabulous 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.000 gift or you know you're going to be frown upon. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.560 My take on this with Carmela is and I could 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.600 be totally wrong, Carlos, I really could. I feel like 0:10:55.640 --> 0:11:00.560 Carmela was bringing that gift as a first of all, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.960 like I'm new to the group and I'm thankful to 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.160 be here and I want to be accepted and I 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.120 love you guys, and I do have money, so three 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.160 eight twenty six hundred dollars is not. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:09.680 A big deal. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.040 However, I think the dildo made it kind of like 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.679 a funny thing. Also, so I think her heart was 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.440 pure in the fact that I'm not trying to show 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.960 off and flaunt. I'm just trying to, you know, say 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:24.640 here I am, and try to find out what this 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:26.720 kind of But she doesn't know what these girls do. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.280 What if everybody else brought Emily like a Louis Vuton 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.439 scarf and another pair of shoes, and then fending sunglasses 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.120 and then she came with only a dildo, like you 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.760 gotta she she did something with a nice bag and 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:41.400 then a quirky gift. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.360 That's kind of a joke. I loved it. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.760 I love it too, and I actually agree with you. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:51.920 I think, I think when you look at somebody that 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:57.200 has obviously some form of wealth. Right, We've learned this 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.040 episode that she does have a real estate license and 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.680 she she does real estate. We'll get in to that 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.160 in a second. But her fucking husband is like an 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.199 NFL All star. So she she's talked about how she's 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:13.800 living in two different homes courtesy of just what she 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.280 was able to, you know, retain from her previous We're 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.839 not even previous because she's still married. But the point, right, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.960 so it's not even previous, But the point is, I 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:29.240 will only understand this if she bought Emily a fifty 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.400 thousand dollars Burke in handbag. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.240 Then I would have been like, that's insane. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.079 I think to your point, for some people, not all 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.160 of us, but for some people, a twenty seven hundred 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.679 dollars gift is not a lot for them, And I 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.480 think we have to look at her. 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:48.760 No shade to Jin because I love Jen. 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.960 If Jen is buying you a gift for twenty seven 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:54.640 hundred or Emily, then we need to we need to 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.000 really study that. Like, okay, girl, we know that's not 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:03.079 favorable for what you have told us about your financial struggle. 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.160 So I think this whole theme of Carmela has run 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:07.840 its course. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:12.040 So hopefully, Carlos, hopefully you're right and we can move 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.840 on because, like, you're right, the fact that this season 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:19.439 the biggest stick is that there's the freaking handbag. It's okay, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:20.720 let's go girls, let's go. 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:23.680 Yeah, let's go. So Tamra heaven, Jan went to go 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:24.200 work out. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:33.319 And what I'm really trying I'm trying today, alexis because 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:39.080 the other drama that we're learning is you not being 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.240 invited to do tiktoks. 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:45.280 Okay, I did not sign up to watch. 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:50.880 This show to see grown women have a beef about 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:55.000 not doing a TikTok. I understand that some of you 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.000 guys thought last scenes it was dark. Me and Alexis 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:02.360 enjoyed it even the darkest. We were like, hey, we're 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.960 watching it and we're entertained by it. So we're seeing 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:12.959 here that Tamera says he does tiktoks with everyone else except. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.439 Her, Carlos. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:21.920 Carlos, in what world are tiktoks becoming so cool that 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.720 grown women that have full time jobs and children are 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.359 spending twenty hours a week worrying about performing tiktoks. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.040 I don't have enough hours in the day. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:32.920 I don't know where they come up with it. I mean, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.440 where's your TikTok, Carlos. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.800 I'm not doing TikTok shit. I run a business. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.320 I run a podcasting company, I run a production company. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.120 I have a live I date, I hang out, I 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:46.840 go to the gym. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.840 You and I are very close. I'm not mad at 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:54.720 you when you do anything outside of me. It's the 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.040 craziest thing, Like is this okay? 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.400 Do you remember the Mormon Wives when that show is 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.320 became about and it was all about. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:02.840 The TikTok so that they were doing dance moves and doing 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.800 all that. Okay, I get a TikTok for that. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:08.080 And those girls are twenty something with four kids on 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:08.640 each boob. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:09.680 It's like, I get it. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.680 They are busy as heck and trying to make money 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.360 behind the scenes so they can be a Mormon. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:15.920 Wife okay with kids, Okay. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.360 I do not understand this TikTok crave where you're going 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.280 to spend twenty set aside the day to. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.720 Do your your what do they call it? Oh, shoot, 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:26.560 I just lost it. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.200 You got to get your your material or whatever they 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:31.800 set aside a whole day and then they go, do 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:33.920 you gotta get your material? You gotta do it, and 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.600 then you could just post it all month long. What 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.600 the hell is this world coming to? I mean, we 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.560 need to worry about where are the world's really going 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:46.360 Over a frickin TikTok of someone grabbing a I don't know, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.360 a klean axe to wipe a booger and then make 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:48.920 fun about it. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:49.360 I don't know. 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.200 This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.640 Let's get back into the show. And the thing is this, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.880 I'm for the teenagers. I don't mind it. For the influencer. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:04.520 They don't have. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.760 Kids, and they don't have careers and jobs that they 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.800 need to get to, and like, why don't you cook 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.400 a meal and actually bring some good make a garden 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.720 in your backyard since we're reading all these chemicals and 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:14.600 crap all the time. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:15.440 I don't know. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.280 My time is just too valuable and I don't have 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.000 the time. And by the way, Carlos, I don't want 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.600 to stare at myself all day long on a fucking screen. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.600 I don't want to go oh wait, no, that angle's bad. Okay, wait, no, no, dude, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.600 the TikTok again. Okay, wait, reset, okay, do it again? 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.440 Oh no, oh no, Now I will hut. Oh look 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.680 at that. Oh I look good? Oh yeah, okay, we're 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:38.480 gonna post that one. What the hell my husband thinks 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.320 I look good? It's all matters, Okay. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.680 Yeah, baby baby, and I will co sign him when 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.400 I say you look the fuck good. But this is 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.840 what I'm talking about, and I just have to say that. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.840 But one thing that I do want to talk about. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:57.000 Tamra feels that Heather only wants to be her friends 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:03.720 when there's not people around, i e. Cameras, But she 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:08.200 wants to be Tamar's friend, but she doesn't want anyone 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.959 to know about it. And this is when I say 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.200 we you and I both can attest to, especially you 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.360 with your previous time on OC especially the last time 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.560 you were on. There a lot of women on reality television, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.119 they do base their friendships upon whether or not social 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:27.960 media likes you. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.359 And because Tamra is. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.960 Arguably, for the world of social media, the most unlikable 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:40.720 cast member based on social media standards, not alexas Heather 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:45.000 does not want to co sign her, so that I get. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.760 But alexis, when you had your last season on the show, 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.240 when the girls left you and went to have dinner 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.280 after the reunion, did you feel like they were distant 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.159 from you based on how social media received you. 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.240 I think the whole sea was I mean once because 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:03.960 everything changed. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.640 This is real information, this is real truth. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:13.080 Before one episode aired, it was totally different with the women. 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.560 The minute that the first episode aired and I could 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.760 see where they were taking me and where my what 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.720 my character was going to be that season. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.000 It was like crickets. It was. It was, you know, 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:27.439 totally different. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.720 So yeah, I get it, and I think that they 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.640 do want to be close to the person that has 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.160 the best turnout for the season. And then they want 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.720 to kind of distance themselves from the person that doesn't. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.080 It really is kind of something that stinks about the 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:46.200 you know, reality TV world, but it's true. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.800 It makes me sad because that is what is happening 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:56.040 between Tamar and Heather, and I know that's what happened 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:56.480 to you. 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.040 You and I discussed it as. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.160 Well, and that is what Tamara is trying to say 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.600 without really going beyond the fourth wall. But the reason 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:10.239 why this season is becoming a little bit lackluster is 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:15.120 because the friendships are based on whatever people on social 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:19.960 media are saying. And that's why, again, Tamern have this friendship. 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.240 I will always say this and I will never ever 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:26.000 ever change my mind on it. Their friendship is based 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:31.040 on being coworkers on the show, and Heather is going 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.240 to be friends with people that she feels the audience loves, 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:39.720 Josh Autman, Rath, Lauren, you know, like people that can do. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:40.280 Something for her. 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.080 Yeah, And you know, it's the weird thing about me 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.760 is that I do care about her, and so I 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.800 just I can't really go as deep as you are 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.440 on that moment because of the fact that like I 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.520 do you know, I don't. 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.160 Know this is it's a really sticky situation. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.919 No, I can imagine get your opinion, and I know 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:07.040 that that's what we're here to do. 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.800 But I'm just gonna let you. You just have your opinion. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.760 Yes, and I will say this, I also respect your 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.240 friendship and I never want to put you in a 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:21.520 position to have to say anything that makes you uncomfortable. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.919 That's why I feel free to say everything I feel. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.439 So No, I respect that. I respect that and what 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.680 I did also respect in the scene. Let me tell 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.400 you that Jen. Every episode, I'm letting Jen more and more. 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.800 Jen stood up for Tamra in that moment and says 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:38.960 she is confused by their friendship. 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.400 And when Tamra said. 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.280 That head's a people pleaser and how she could turn 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:50.639 it on and off, it's you know, I just appreciated 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.919 Jin in that moment, calling it out in front of 0:20:55.080 --> 0:21:00.480 Healler's face, like, I'm also confused by this because on 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.480 one end, you tell me things unflattering about her, but 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.160 when you're around her, you. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.399 Make it seem like you to are close. So listen. 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.840 Shout out to Jen for standing up her tamera, which 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.360 showed me the growth they have based on where they started. 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:16.640 Earlier in this season too. 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.520 Well yeah, and isn't isn't that funny that that's kind 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.919 of what we all want to see is the growth 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.920 number one, And also just the moving of the storyline, 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:26.760 the plots, all. 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.040 The moving of it. You don't want everything to stay stagnant. 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:33.479 So it gets old when certain things are not moving 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.040 and changing. And I do like the fact that Jen 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.560 is being vocal. She found her voice. This is the season. 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.240 Last year she's getting there. This year she found her voice. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.119 And this year she's like, you know what, I'm just 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.080 gonna I just have to speak up. 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.640 And especially if Tamra, if the person that always has 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:52.480 the voice is going. 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.240 To be mute, mute, you know, like she's just Tamra's 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.480 just like I think she's just you know, having PTSD 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.679 from last season, being called too much of a villain 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.800 and and now she's pulling back and and I think 0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:05.960 that we have to have one of them. 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.600 So it's the Jins standing up right now and speaking of. 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.720 No, I love it, I love it, I love it 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:11.879 the of it. Now. 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.160 I will say this scene that I loved because I'm 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:15.720 a faithful OSI viewer. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.440 Vicky and her son Michael, Oh my gosh. 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:22.679 I was so excited to see him again. I cannot 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.120 believe he's forty. 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:30.560 Carlos and hot. I can say that he's straight. 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:32.120 Carlos, you're doing. 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.479 I know, and I stood up straight when he appeared 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:39.280 on my screen. The thing is the thing. 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.480 But he has and if and he lives in Spain, Carlos, 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:49.480 that would be very exciting for you to travel to 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:50.720 Spain to see your boyfriend. 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.840 I mean, hello the case. 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.800 I just I love seeing them back together. I love 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.960 the flashbacks from back when Vicki firsts twenty years ago, 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.120 and he's like literally going off to college and I'm 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.040 just putting myself in those shoes and I'm like, oh 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.840 my gosh, this is so her life. Ben is exactly 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.600 where my life is now. 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.800 Yes, sending everyone. 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.639 Off to college. I'm like, open the door, there they go. Bye. 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:19.320 They're all flying off to college and married life. 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.840 So it was it was so good seeing him. He 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:23.520 looks great. 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:28.280 You know, I don't know if you know this, but 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.480 do you know that Michael is the one who wrote 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:36.840 the letter for Viki to get on housewives what So 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:40.440 apparently when they were looking for women behind the gates 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.000 in Orange County, Michael saw some. 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.200 Kind of an ad or something and then because back 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:46.080 then we didn't have. 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:49.720 Phones, so we were you're you're chicken scratching it. 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:52.240 You're like right, So he wrote the letter to the 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.080 newspaper that said when they said calling out for hot moms, 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.720 and he wrote the letter and then, oh my god, 0:23:58.800 --> 0:23:59.760 do you know what the letter said? 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:01.160 Please tell me you have that information. 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.960 I will try to get a Jamie see if you 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:05.760 can find the letter what is said and how it 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:06.560 happened for me. 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.679 But zing if not, I'll call Vicky and ask her 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:11.680 to send it to me for our next podcast next week. 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.280 I will ask her. If you can't find it, yeah, 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:18.000 text me. I'm gonna yeah, Okay, yep. She would love 0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:19.879 sharing that. And it's that is so freakin' cool. 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.280 That is Brad, No, it is, and look and look 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.040 how much their lives has changed. And the one thing 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.520 that made me sad was when he revealed that he 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:35.560 and his sister Brianna haven't seen each other eight years. 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.639 I was like, oh my gosh, because you know, I 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:41.520 have also parentlests, so I don't have a parent, so 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.360 my closest ken is my brother. But also you all 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:47.560 are closer to your siblings because your parents, you know, 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:48.840 you are closer in age. 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:50.159 To your siblings, and you guys have to rock this 0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:52.040 world together. That is so sad. 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:55.520 It's almost like we want to Carlos, we should put 0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:57.280 our funds together and mail them a ticket so that 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.000 they can meet somewhere like Vegas and then we can 0:24:59.040 --> 0:24:59.800 all show up together. 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:05.840 They're nepo babies, they have the money, which which. 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:11.880 Okay, my opinion, my opinion, my opinion, there's nothing more 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:19.160 to the story because oh, alexis eight years well. 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.560 Vicky says they FaceTime. Nope, Vicky says, they FaceTime all 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.320 the time. And I'm telling you, life does get busy 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.800 when you have kids. First of all, Michael is in. 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:27.600 His prime right now. He does not seem like he 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:28.720 wants to have kids. 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.560 He's kind of like, mom, I'm not going to have 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.480 kids right He's in She's in mom mode and had 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.880 kids a little bit young, you know, like started. I 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.320 think they just kind of went like this, and it's 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.119 just timing. And it's hard if you don't make the 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.720 vacation to go see you because we only get so 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.320 much time off, right If you don't make the effort 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.080 to make that vacation to go to Spain to see 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:52.919 your brother or go to us to see your sister. 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:57.440 Then you're not It's just not their priority right now. 0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.399 I think they will. I think they'll come back. You 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:00.720 think there's more. Think they're fighting. 0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:06.840 Yes, yes, I'm curious if he I'm curious if Michael 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.760 and his sister's husband getting along or not. 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:11.280 Oh, I was going to ask you that. 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:17.680 I was going to say, do you think it's the husband's. 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:21.880 It's something that the thing is this, Let's be real here. 0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:31.639 They are the only siblings to each other, right you 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:33.960 not seeing your sister and FaceTime with her. 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.600 I'm sorry, Alexis. In eight years, you can catch a flight. 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.520 Right by the way, if you're popping a baby out 0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.960 and you're my sibling, I'm coming to see my freaking 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.919 niece or nephew. I'm flying my arse. I don't care 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.240 where you are, I'm going to. You can be in 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.520 Timbuctu and I'm coming to see I meet my niece 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:52.000 and nephew. 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:52.560 You know. 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.680 Yeah, And for me, it's one of those. 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:58.840 Things where I don't know. 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.840 I just think I'm just curious if Michael does not 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.600 get along with his sister's husband. 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.360 Oh update, I have an update. 0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:12.400 Okay, Okay, hey, John, read your text please because there's 0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:13.280 an update for Carlos. 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.119 But I also had I'm texting my husband right now too. 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.440 Okay, go ahead, Okay, all right, breaking news, rain draws, 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:19.240 breaking news. 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:20.160 Okay. 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.359 Michael responded to someone saying, visit your sister. 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:27.520 It's been a minute. 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:29.920 But what is his response? 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:31.720 You ready for this? 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:33.040 I don't know. 0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:38.639 Yeah, Michael says, I've never been invited out there, and 0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.560 she doesn't visit California. I was living in Hawaii and 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.600 now Spain a couple of years ago. I said I 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.720 wanted to visit when I was fairly close to Oklahoma, 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.639 and she said it wasn't a good time because of 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.680 her husband, who I don't get along with very well. 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:04.200 By, you were right, it's the husband. Okay, here's the problem. 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:07.440 I have a brother and if I didn't get along 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.600 with his wife, which I do and I love her, 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.000 but if I didn't, I would still say I'm gonna 0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:14.760 I'm still gonna come by. 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.880 It sounds like it's on Brionnas or on the sister's side. 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.960 Yeah, I have more for you. I agree with you 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:21.480 and have more. 0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:22.800 Oh God. 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.280 Somebody asked him, why haven't you seen your sister in 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:28.119 eight years? 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.560 Do you guys talk at least or FaceTime? 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.879 Michael goes, yes, we are in a group chat with 0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:40.800 my mom and have friendly personal convos. I will prefer 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.360 if we could see each other in person. We were 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:51.040 sending each other pugs we want a couple of days ago. 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.880 So look, it's that's the reason why they haven't seen 0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:55.880 each other in eight years. 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.280 And I feel sad. 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:01.560 It makes it makes me sad. 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.560 And look, Bicky has to be heartbroken because what we 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.680 all know, besides being an amazing career woman, she's an 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.760 amazing mom and she loves her children. 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:13.160 She's all about family. 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:18.560 That girl loves her family, her mom rest in peace, 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.680 her brother, her she loves family. 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.120 Yeah, yeah, that's really sad. 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.240 Carlos Okay, well, I'm glad we just dished that out 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:27.920 to America. 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.640 All right, shout out to Spencer okay for giving as 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:35.719 a tidbit. So one of the things that also happened 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:43.600 is this, I'm into this Tamra and Jen as a duo. Hello, 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:49.400 oh Alexis speak now for hepoltr piece. But you don't 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:50.800 seem to be in agreement. 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:50.760 With me. 0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.200 Because I can't lie. But I'm like, I really don't 0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:55.800 want to go there. 0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.600 I want you to go there because I don't want 0:29:58.640 --> 0:29:59.640 you to go there with your friend. 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.479 Have I respect it? Behave well? 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:05.400 Not talking about anyone's character. This is just talking about 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:06.640 a scene. 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:07.440 Okay. 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:13.640 I really really love Tamra and I really really Lovedjen. Okay, 0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.720 I really do appreciate both of them. 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:21.360 I just for some reason for me, maybe I'm a 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.760 whack adoodle. I sit back and go, where is it 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:25.560 going to fall out? 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:25.680 Like? 0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.400 I don't know. I just feel almost. 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.200 Anxious when they're together because I just don't know if 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:31.880 I buy it. 0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.320 But you know what I'm watching. What I'm saying is 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.680 when I'm watching the scenes, you know, because I'm. 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.640 Putting myself, I take myself out of like actually knowing 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.960 some of these people to just like watching a show 0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.920 where I'm like trying to, you know, take. 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.440 Myself out of my body and just watch the show. 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.160 But I don't know. Part of me is just like, okay, 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.360 is it really going to last? Are they really? 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.800 I do like it, and I do want Shannon and 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.640 Tamra to also be able to get along because it's 0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.080 really awkward to film a reality show when there's such 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.760 a beef that you can't put it behind you and 0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.480 just go, we're here to work, like you and I've 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:10.160 had this conversation many a times, Carlos, and it's just 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.920 you have to be able to put everything aside and work. 0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.720 So I don't know, I feel I feel a little 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.600 bit anxious when they're together. 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:24.080 And that's fair, Alexis, that's fair. And the reason why 0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:30.000 it's fair is because you know that sometimes you. 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.480 Have to get along because it's your job. 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:39.800 Yes, And when a friendship isn't based upon being genuine, 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:46.480 any small thing can unravel the bond, right, And that's 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.040 why you have to give it up to these two ladies. 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:49.880 Like them or not. 0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:55.040 Emily and Gina are the best of friends and nothing 0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.520 is going to come in between that, like nothing, nothing, 0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:00.600 And you believe there friendship. 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:01.760 You know it's real. 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.840 Even when they have moments of calling each other out, 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.920 they find way back together. And to your point of lexit, 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:12.600 you're not anxious because you know nothing's gonna happen between them. 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.520 But I really do want Tamar again to figure it 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.240 out because I do like seeing them together. 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.120 And I'll say this much. 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.760 I buy that they're trying to figure out more than 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:25.040 this bullshit that happened at the end with Shannon and Tamarra. 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.640 That will get to in a second. So stay tuned, listeners. 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:29.720 Okay, because I'm like my ariage. Did you see me? 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:33.920 I went like yeah, okay, I'm not gonna yeah, Okay, 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:34.360 keep going. 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:38.440 We'll get into the Captain Zata Jones school of crying 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:39.200 in a second. 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:52.760 Now, with that being said. 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:48.640 We have to Heather McDonald's school of tripping. 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:55.120 So love you Heather McDonald. 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:57.480 Love you Heather McDonald's. 0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:59.960 And by the way, she does not take herself serio. 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:01.800 She is the most like. 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.400 She doesn't care, she doesn't care, she doesn't care. I 0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:06.760 love her. 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.320 She showed her three times in that video. Okay, keep going. 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.240 So they me with Carmela, and Carmela. 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.800 Said it was a bold accusation to accuse her of 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:20.000 trying to buy her princh with Emily over the bag. 0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:24.040 Tamer's like, girl, I also heard that you paid thirty 0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.600 thousand dollars a month for your rent, and Carmela's like, 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:29.800 why these girls talking. 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.480 About me and my money? Like what is happening here? 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.160 Because Carlos it is so true. What Carmelo is feeling 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.360 is so true. When you're in real life, there is 0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.640 not a friendship or a group of women you're around 0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.920 where everyone's dissecting what each person has or makes or 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.560 or what the you know, I don't there's just it 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.400 is not a normal you're on a TV show. So 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.920 Carmela is getting involved and now with a group of 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.560 girls who they're here to create some stories, okay, and 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.640 it just there's not one group of friends and I 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:01.360 have some world group of friends and that we ever 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.600 sit around and go what's your car payment? 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:05.320 Oh wait, are you riding that car? Are you leasing 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:06.440 that car? Or do you own that car? 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:06.720 Oh? 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:07.440 How much is that ham? 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:07.560 Like? 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.120 Oh wait, you just got that yesterday. Oh wait, no, 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:09.719 when did you get that? 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:09.839 Oh? 0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.719 By the way, you put a dildo in that. There 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.000 is no we do not have friendships like that. 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:16.920 And you also don't get mad at somebody at the 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.040 table about you know, and throw napkins. 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:24.640 You just don't say it. 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.440 Have we surched rolls today? 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.279 I mean no, no, what you said earlier, I'm in 0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.880 the you're in the black, I'm in the white. So 0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:37.319 that's what. 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:44.960 I am a little feisty today. Last night I had swordfish. 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.359 Oh sword fish, maybe that's all. 0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:53.520 I had oyster mushrooms and noodles. 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.280 Well, noodles made you softer today, and my swordfish. 0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:04.200 Made me, oh baby. Stay tuned because we haven't got 0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:05.319 the Tamas party yet. 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.320 Okay, but we've got you know, I've got a hurt. 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:15.720 Looking at the clocklock, Okay, what were your thoughts when Vicky, Shannon, 0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.640 Head and Tamara they were on the boat doing their thing. 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.120 And in this. 0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.200 What in this. 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:34.680 Scene, Shannon sent Tamera a text. 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:42.240 Offering to help her with decorations for a Tamra's party 0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:49.080 that is happening in this episode. Wow, I've never seen 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:56.160 anything so genuine in my life that allows me to 0:35:56.320 --> 0:36:02.479 believe Shannon did that without a producer whispering her ear 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:05.120 do it for the show. 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.839 I was gonna say, wa wa wa, but you just 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.440 nailed it on the head. It's like, you gotta do 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.080 this and here's what, here's what your job is today, 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.239 and you know the whole time, you know, the whole time, 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.120 Shannon's going do it. 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.000 No letter at a time, two hours to get that 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:31.440 one text. 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.560 Alexi, this is Shan doing it. Oh my god, I 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:42.759 got I can't get up. 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.000 I can't owe my phone. I just threw it in 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.239 the head, actually ended up in the shower. Oh dang, No, 0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.839 I can't send the text because I don't have my phone. 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:56.759 Oh my god, it fell, it broke. So somebody get 0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:03.040 some rice, bore rice and my phone water. Shit. We're okay, 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:04.360 I digress, got. 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:10.520 It, Carlos. Okay, that was very too funny. 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.960 No, but you know what, here's the dell. No, I'm 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.680 gonna be okay, I'm gonna be serious now, Okay, I 0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:18.120 can't ok. 0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:22.960 Goad ALAXI stop laughing. We're serious. 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.600 I'm being serious. Okay. 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:29.920 I do feel like I've been wanting this because I'm 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.400 almost cringing at the fact that Tamar has been trying 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.160 for two years to get Shannon to just say, look, 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:36.520 we're making a lot. 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.319 Of money here to make this TV show. Let's just 0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:38.880 get along. 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:43.279 And finally, you know, Shannon is like, okay, I'll send 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.560 the text, even though you know it took her probably 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.640 seven hours to send those two sentences. But but I'm 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.360 glad it happened, because you know what, we are watching it, Carlos, 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.960 as viewers. We need to be able to see them 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.760 at least be able to work in the room together. 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.480 Yeah, I agree. 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.160 Okay, well I was boring. 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:12.279 No, no, wait and tell the party. Okay, I think 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.000 that happened that I was. Let me tell you something. 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:16.959 This is the Vickie that I love. 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:21.719 So they're talking about Carmela again, and you. 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.640 Know, buying buying this two thousand, seven hundred dollars bag 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.919 with a dial. Though Vicky said, oh please, Carmela got 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.799 naked for money, she is not impressed. 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.680 Well, here's the thing. This is what I love about Vicky, 0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:41.720 and this is why we needed her back. 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:45.920 On our screen. Vicky does not give two shits. Okay 0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.239 she is. She is just like and you know what 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:50.560 the funniest part. 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:54.120 About Vicky is you you can't really hate her. 0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:55.880 You got a lover her. Even though she's being like that. 0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.600 Are you not cracking up every time she says one 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.799 of those lines, I'm laughing and I'm like, okay, well 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.640 I've been on the receiving end of that, by the way, 0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.239 and now she was my friend and you know, but 0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.760 it's like, I don't know, I just laugh. 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:15.480 I find it hysterical and I freaking love it. 0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.440 I know what, Carlo, she know what it is. It's genuine. 0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.560 It's not like she's playing a role like certain people 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:23.760 are trying to play roles. 0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.640 She's just heard. She's just it's just organic. I guess 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:29.080 you know. 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.279 Yes, yes, again, she's not playing up to the cameras. 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.239 Even when Habit said, oh, Vicky, that's inappropriate, It's like, Heather, 0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.280 you believe the same thing. But again, you're a constant 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.479 of the cameras and you don't. You're trying to say 0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.480 what is right on social media. That is that is 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:47.120 kind of PC. 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:48.200 But I like that. 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.400 Vickie's like, I don't care like she listen, Do I 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:55.000 agree with it? No, But I find it to be entertaining. 0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:56.640 I'm entertained by Vicki. 0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.400 It's amusing, okay, And when it feels organic, I like it, 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:01.120 just like Carmela. 0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.200 Carmela is organic. You can like her or not like her. 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:04.840 I don't even know. 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:06.719 I haven't googled to see what her ratings are or 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:08.480 what people if the viewers are loving her or not. 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.040 All I know is I'm enjoying her, and she's organic 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:14.439 and she's herself, and that's I like when you can 0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.760 read that on the screen and not feel like someone's 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.640 putting up a roll and worried about the cameras and 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:22.839 what's their next shit going to be? 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:23.600 You know all that. 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:28.239 Yeah, and that's exactly what is happening. They like her. 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:32.120 The audience does like her, all right, So Tamra has 0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:37.200 a party on her home. Shannon rites first because she 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:41.640 wants to help with the decorations, all right, So then 0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:42.840 the ladies. 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:43.359 All come over. 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.719 Okay, they brought a blanket and a couple sombreros. 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:51.040 They didn't break at the orb. 0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:54.200 Yeah, by the way, the whole party is already going 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:55.719 on in the back, but let me just throw this 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:57.719 blanket on the table just to make it look like 0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.120 I was bringing, you know, some death and and a 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:05.279 big box with a couple bright colored balls that look 0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:08.080 Mexican in a blanket to throw over the table. 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:11.959 It was. It was all of that and more. 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.279 And look Carmela comes up again, which I was kind 0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:17.840 of disappointed that she wasn't there. 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.880 I know it would have added a new flavor, a 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.719 little diff different flavors, but I still loved. 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:25.880 Okay, first of all, I'm just gonna start with us. 0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.799 I loved the box put the person in the box 0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.799 party idea, I'm even going to do that at my 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:33.799 next party when I have just all the girls over. 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.640 I just loved it, and you put in the box 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.799 what you think of that person? I just I was 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.600 dying over. I loved it good. 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.640 I love the idea. I love the idea. 0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:47.120 Vickie throws another dig at Carmela, saying that she's nothing 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:52.399 but an administrative assistant at the front desk. VICKI is hysterical. 0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.720 I don't care if y'all like it or not. It's funny, 0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.319 it's entertaining. She is, she is being herself. 0:41:58.840 --> 0:41:59.640 I want to ask you that. 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.880 I want to ask you something. Okay, do you agree 0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.680 with Vicky on that? Or do you think Carmela is 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.560 established and has has made her own way and is 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:09.680 doing a good job. 0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:13.400 Here's the thing, I don't know much about her yet 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.080 to say if you if you ask me about Vicky, 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:22.680 obviously I've had a decade, right yeah to say. 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:26.560 No, she's a real deal. I The thing with Carmela 0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:28.759 is we're figuring it out. I don't know. 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.319 I thought it was smart to show her with a 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.120 client was a business partner. 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:37.440 I thought it was a client, but maybe it was. 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:39.279 I think I don't know. 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.320 I don't know, so I thought it was nice to 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.480 kind of see her work and doing her thing and listen, 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:47.280 we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. But listen, maybe Vicky 0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.680 knows more than we do. And that's why that, to me, 0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:51.880 is going to be interesting when all of that comes 0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:57.680 to a head. So they're at Camera's boxing party. So 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.399 they're playing a game where they want to see where 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.960 everyone stands by throwing. 0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.240 A statement in a box that. 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:14.080 Each girl has to put how you feel about everyone 0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:19.399 Tamera's box. Shannon says she walks on egg shells around her, 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:24.640 which makes sense, which was tracks right? 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:34.200 I mean, Alex always sorry, Okay, if the tune they 0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:35.120 want to know what just happened? 0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:37.760 Huh watch YouTube, guys. 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:41.400 Okay, you know what I mean though, right, Carlos, you 0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:41.680 know what. 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.879 It is is that the L sign it's no V 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:50.640 for victim V of course. 0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:55.040 Okay, this will be good. I agree with you. 0:43:55.200 --> 0:44:00.200 In this moment, oh, in this moment, In this moment, okay, 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.840 please do I understand. 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.040 I understand why Shannon would. 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:08.200 Feel the need to walk on eggs shells because Tamra 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:12.239 did do things to her that questions whether or not 0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.480 they can give back to being besties. 0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:15.960 I'm not. 0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:19.040 Then, well, then Tamara needs to put that in Shannon's 0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.520 box too, Carlos. 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:22.000 She should. 0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.480 But when you're being told by everybody you have to 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.640 clean up your act, what is Tamas supposed to do? 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:33.680 Which is why when she gave the Cameron Diaz performance. 0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:33.719 At the end. 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.839 Oh lord, Okay, I don't know where you're going. 0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:38.360 We'll talk about that in a second. 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.120 So well, I'm just saying I'm saying. 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.360 I'm saying I get what Shannon is saying. 0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:48.719 Yes, it's hard if you walk on egg shells, but hey, 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:53.400 you're starting on the right path of offering to decorate. 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:54.960 So anyway I do. 0:44:55.480 --> 0:45:01.160 Okay, Emily calls Vicky a Debbie Downer and Biggie gets offended. 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:08.440 But again, I can see that through the eyes of Emily, Okay, Okay. 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:15.879 Tamara calls Heather her social bestie. Okay, get that through 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.440 the eye of camera. Okay, I agree with that. 0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:19.160 Okay. 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:24.960 Then Heather and Jen get into it because earlier, Jen 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.640 is informed that Heather thinks she is a little bit 0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.960 too obsessed with what's going on to her and Tamera, 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.960 and that's why she is concerned about whether or not 0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.200 Jen's a friend. Jen got upset too and was like, 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.000 you know what that word does. It triggers me because 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:45.399 all last season Tama was saying I am obsessed with her, 0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:47.600 so I understood where Jin was. 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.000 Coming from in this case. 0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:54.440 But hey, they both did apologize to each other, because again, 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.799 this beef isn't it has no legs to stand on. 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.640 In my opinion, well. 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.799 Like you and I both said at the beginning of 0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:08.680 this episode or this podcast and last week's podcast, they're 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:10.640 just reaching for things to argue about. 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.040 They're reaching for things. 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:16.000 So Carlos, you know, with that said, we all wanted 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.880 fun and levity back. Do you think there's as a 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.239 producer put your producer cap on now, is there a 0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:25.600 way to really keep a reality show going if there's 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:26.280 not the drama? 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:28.120 Because I was so over kind of all. 0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:30.440 The nitpicking and drama, and now I feel like we're 0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:33.040 nitpicking even further, like to talk about a handbag and 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.800 a dildo over or a vibrator over like like real beef. 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.760 I don't know, it's kind of I'm kind of perplexed 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.680 after this episode to be honest about how I feel 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.080 about it, because it's like I'm so over the drama, 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:46.319 so let's just have fun now. 0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.560 I'm kind of like, okay, we'll bring back some real drama. 0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:53.120 Not worrying about you know, if someone actually dry cleaned 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.600 their dress or they washed it in their washing machine. 0:46:55.680 --> 0:46:57.440 You know, like it's like stupid stuff. 0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:03.480 Yeah, well, listen, high audience, high people on social media, 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.440 the point zero one percent of you. 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:06.920 I hope you are happy. 0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:12.759 You have water down Tamra to the point where her 0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:17.520 crying over Shannon. Listen, I'm not even mad at Tamra. 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:21.320 Tamar gave the performance that belongs on a Netflix special 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:26.400 or on TV. The me, the thing for me was 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.160 this is what happens when you listen to people on 0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:32.279 social media when you're trying to make a. 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.640 TV show, especially a reality show. 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.440 I am not I don't give two shits about Tamar 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:40.440 and Shanna being friends. 0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:44.239 I don't care. They're not. They don't like each other, 0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:45.040 and it's okay. 0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:47.719 I think the reason why you feel that way, and 0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.880 I think this is the reality of the fact, is 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:51.719 that we know they're not really going to call each 0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:53.400 other up for a cup of coffee. We know that, 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:57.000 But at the same time, you can still just kind 0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.120 of exist with someone that you have to film a 0:47:59.120 --> 0:47:59.799 reality show with. 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.760 I mean you have it exists, exists. 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:04.080 It doesn't mean I'm crying. 0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.799 It doesn't mean I'm crying because you send me a 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:11.480 text h that you were told to That's where things 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:15.000 got lost. It's not interesting. Tamar was trying her best 0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.239 to say, I am going to try to make things right. 0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:22.160 What I'm saying to the audience is when you want 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:25.759 to show that doesn't have any meat to the potatoes, 0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:30.040 you then want people fired. And what Tamar is doing, 0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.920 Tamar is proving to you, guys, I'm going to be 0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.760 Pollyanna and you tell me whether or not this show 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:36.880 is interesting. 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:42.480 And I'm here to say to you it's it's go ahead. 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:44.680 No go because I there's a pause. 0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:46.520 I think, but I think that you're right, and I 0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:50.520 think that I think she's really she's got Like I said, 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.600 I think she has PTSD from last season of being 0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:55.080 called too much. She's just overhearing that word that she's 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.479 the villain when all people really need to be saying 0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:00.920 is she's the storyline pusher. She pushes the storyline, she 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:02.720 creates actual, real things. 0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:06.200 And so I don't know. I think that you're right, 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:07.480 I can't wait till the end of this. 0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.719 On our final episode, Carlos on the final episode, I 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.200 can't wait for us to both do our research on 0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.880 what the polls say and where everyone stands with Tamra 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:17.360 at the end of. 0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:18.200 The that's the thing. 0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.719 That's the thing I think when you rely so much 0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:24.120 on what And this is me speaking as producer, I 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:29.840 do not make creative decisions based on what the people 0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.480 on social media, the point zero one percent of the 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.279 world I have to say about my shows or my 0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.319 cast I'm their boss. I'm the one who casts them, 0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:42.160 not you. You can't tell me how anyone should be. I 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:45.560 don't care to listen. I'm here to say. Seeing what's 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:49.799 going on on OC this season is unfortunate because a 0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:55.759 show that was once having three consecutive amazing seasons of 0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:59.560 real story, real meat to the potatoes, real life argument, 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:06.640 real story, has now fallen too back to the comfort 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:11.960 zone of well, let's just all play like we are 0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:15.640 going to be friends versus no, let's actually do the 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:21.160 work to get there. And what's not happening is real conversations. 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:25.240 What's happening is send her a text and say I'll decorate, 0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:30.839 respond to the decoration because you have been so blamed 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:34.160 for what has been dark that we're trying to save 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.279 you to be liked. And I'm here to say to 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:40.120 all reality stars who are listening, if you live your 0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:44.680 career for the applause, you would die by their. 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:50.200 Booze ah, whoa pearls. That should have been your tagline. 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:54.600 Holy cow, that's freaking ingenious. 0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:58.359 That is so true. Did you really make that up 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:00.600 just now or did you read that somewhere now? It 0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:02.240 was true? 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.719 It was true, true, And I know you have to 0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:08.800 go on a second, but can you please, please, please, 0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:09.800 please please. 0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:11.840 My dog is wanting my banana. 0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:16.560 Okay, I'm wanting to have a final word. Can you 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:21.880 please explain to the audience how you felt your last 0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:25.720 season when the audience was terrible to you on social 0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.880 media and what that did to you as a human. 0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:30.759 Oh, Carlos, I mean I don't think you. 0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:33.480 I don't want to end the pod on a negative note. 0:51:33.560 --> 0:51:37.960 I mean, I was in therapy, I was getting death threats. 0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:42.400 I was I was, you know, crying every night on 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.040 John's shoulder, Like what did I do? 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.160 Why did I go back? Like you know it? 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:50.120 I know and everyone like you and all the big 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.440 the higher ups everywhere that you you know, in this 0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.200 business that you work in, we're all like Alexis, it's 0:51:55.280 --> 0:51:57.240 point oh one percent of the people that you're listening 0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:58.280 to on social media. 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:00.000 I went off social media for like four month. 0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:02.920 I didn't post anything, and I just I just My 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.680 kids were like worried and they're like, mom, you know, 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:06.560 like we. 0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:07.520 Hate what's happening to you. 0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:11.480 I mean, it is devastating what it did though to me, 0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.520 Carlos Is, it made me very strong. 0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:15.440 It also made my children very strong. 0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:21.000 It made everyone realize that, you know, it is a 0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:23.319 short lived you know. One of the biggest pieces of 0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:26.360 advice I got from some of the people behind the scenes, 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:30.800 like producers and people behind the scenes was lex, it's 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.359 this They're going to forget about you and and this 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:34.120 whole season. 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:36.799 By next season you won't even be it won't even 0:52:36.800 --> 0:52:38.839 be a deal like it. Just just go with it, 0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:41.640 ride the wave. And it was true. It was true. 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:43.400 It's like it's like, yeah, I was. 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:47.440 I was the hated, most hated person for un What 0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:50.120 I didn't like is that it wasn't authentic reasons. 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:52.120 I was hated for reasons that. 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.880 You know, a lot of the truth wasn't really shown, 0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.560 so that was what hurt my feelings the most. 0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:03.200 But at the end of the day, it's like, here 0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:03.720 we are. 0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:05.680 And everyone got over it, and everyone kind of really 0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:07.440 still knows who I am. Maybe you can follow my 0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:08.360 Instagram and see. 0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:08.480 So. 0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:08.920 I don't know. 0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.200 I don't know what advice I would give to everyone 0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:12.480 about that. It is hard. 0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.480 Yeah, it's hard. Okay, last thing. 0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:19.120 We'll be by the way, what would be your season 0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:22.040 twenty tag line if you were a housewife this season? 0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:24.919 Okay, we're ending in on a happy note there, because 0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:27.120 I'm gonna make it la. I don't know, Well, it 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:32.920 has to involve hold on. It has to involve Jesus Jugs. Okay, 0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.840 that's who I am on this. Okay, what about hold on? 0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:44.000 I must, I must really love the jjs, Jesus Jugs 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:51.720 and John Janssen ah or or I'm full of Jays, 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:53.840 Jesus Jugs and John Jansen. 0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:02.719 Jenius, my girlfriend Alexis Jackson, I love you, the pieces 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.920 have a good beating. I love you and will see 0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:10.280 you next week. Rain drops, Bye guys, Bye baby.