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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty one,

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Speaker 1: episode four of dight Les Like Guys Stay production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into america shared consciousness. And it is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: November three, which of course means, hey, you know we

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Speaker 1: worked with There's only one thing to talk about, National

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Speaker 1: Sandwich Day. Yeah, that's it. There's some other ones, but

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Speaker 1: they are very gender normally, like two of them is

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Speaker 1: National Housewives Day and the other one is National Men

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Speaker 1: Make Dinner Day. What men like? Yeah, it feels like

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Speaker 1: you're like, hey, fellas for that housewife you got, maybe

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Speaker 1: you can go pick up some Boston markets. Anyway. I

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Speaker 1: fun with sandwiches though, and I think most of us do.

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Speaker 1: Shout out a sandwich of good sandwich. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, a K. Remember remember the spliff of November

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Speaker 1: that time that I try I had to smoke pot.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tator's O'Brien with milky white plumpers and wish that

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Speaker 1: you all forgot. That is courtesy a Fighter of the

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Speaker 1: Night man commemorating a time I tried to smoke pot.

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Speaker 1: I guess. In this version of the expanded universe of

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Speaker 1: my childhood. Yeah, anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as

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Speaker 1: always by my co host Mr Miles Gray on the

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Speaker 1: heels of Jack tasting that new food due it's Sweedish

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Speaker 1: fish is almost right, Rudy pebbles, furners bite, something weird

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Speaker 1: but not named Brandissy my do shout out to Scouty

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Speaker 1: Magoo on the discord with that one. So where do we?

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Speaker 1: Where did we end up in that song? What? What?

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Speaker 1: I I didn't quite catch the so Swedish fish almost right,

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Speaker 1: but we're not sure, you know, because it was a

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Speaker 1: little ginger ale adjacent. But he said did have ginger

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Speaker 1: beer bite, So furners does feel like a good got it?

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Speaker 1: It wasn't ginger ale? Then Burners is you know there ers?

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Speaker 1: I wasn't picking up all the references. Oh, okay, you're

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Speaker 1: not old. You never Yeah, who was the first person

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Speaker 1: to give you a Burners? It was my grandmother Wurners.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, probably, I think I think my

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Speaker 1: grandparents had some furners in their garage that was just

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Speaker 1: all dusty in those little like bottles like a heel

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Speaker 1: tap ye cam from Sucking six Hounds came out of

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Speaker 1: the bomb shelter, right right, right, yeah, but yeah, the

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Speaker 1: ginger ale was medicine. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. My grandmother

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Speaker 1: she was like this, She's like, you need to try Wurners.

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Speaker 1: She's like, not Canada dry, that's too much. But yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: all right. Shout out to Golden sodas well. We are

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a

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Speaker 1: brilliant writer, speaker, social justice educator who's written for Ebony Complex,

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Speaker 1: Out the Root and appeared on NBC News, BuzzFeed, and Box,

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Speaker 1: among many others. They're also the host of the amazing

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Speaker 1: podcast BFF Black Fat Fam. Please welcome Dr John Paul. Hey.

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Speaker 1: I wish that I had a very interesting song to sing,

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Speaker 1: but I will say that scam money don't make money,

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Speaker 1: but freak money do. There it is. It's new JP,

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Speaker 1: not much, you know, just trying, like I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: trying to exist in the world that's not built for me.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, that's that's it. I'm just here

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Speaker 1: queer and uh not drinking a light beer. So was

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Speaker 1: that freaky money you were quoting? Yes, yes it is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So freak money don't make money, but scam money do.

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Speaker 1: And Freak Money by Rue Paul. Yes, that is like song. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, kidd job for knowing. You know what, Miles,

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Speaker 1: That's why I fox with you. You know, I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: I fussed with RuPaul and you know the Dragways, drag

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Speaker 1: race people. You know. Famously, ch Angela called me her trade,

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Speaker 1: so you know I'm out here. I'm out here. Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I love that for you. I love that journey. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: but I was like you don't. That's fine, you don't

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Speaker 1: But that's your Texas, Like, that's your that's your Southern politeness.

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Speaker 1: And I will take that just as just as dearly

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Speaker 1: How was How is Halloween for you? Halloween? Halloween was?

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Speaker 1: You know, so sadly we only got one tricker treater,

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Speaker 1: They have a basically it's called Thriller Night and they

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Speaker 1: And what what happens at Thriller Night? Yeah, So it's

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Speaker 1: power in the city between you know, like there's so

424
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Speaker 1: many activists are like these are all the problems in

425
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Speaker 1: our city, and then like people who are like, well,

426
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Speaker 1: Rick Caruso paid me money to say it's all good

427
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Speaker 1: and we just you do a couple of things and

428
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Speaker 1: then we can ignore the unhoused. Right, like the Democrat

429
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: the mainstream Democrats are all also have a you know,

430
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Speaker 1: run for the mayorship that is between somebody who's clearly

431
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: a Republican who just claimed just switched parties last minute,

432
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: is a billionaire, a real estate billionaire, and they're not

433
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: fighting very hard against that, dude. They're not. I'm not

434
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,719
Speaker 1: seeing these flyers dropped like like from a plane basically

435
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: to push back on Rick Cruizo. I'm I'm seeing them

436
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: dropped to push back on the progressive candidate. And I

437
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: mean it's this is I mean, this is just this

438
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: is like like history runs like this all the time,

439
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, like liberals are gonna just turn their backs

440
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: on leftists fucking second the ship hits the fan, Like

441
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: there's I'm not you know, like there's so much from

442
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: history to to say this is what is going to happen,

443
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: and we've already kind of seen, like you already see

444
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: how the Democrats are already shying away from so many

445
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: really existential battles that exist for people in the country,

446
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like work, they're they're

447
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: barely saying shit about gay or trans people right now,

448
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: nothing barely. They haven't said anything about the cost of living.

449
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: They haven't said anything about gas being so high. Like

450
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: people are barely making it at this point. I want

451
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: to say, I am looking at this picture and I

452
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: have a qualm because it looks like somebody did it

453
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: on Microsoft Paint. I would think when canvas is can

454
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: say it's right there there like it just it bothers

455
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: me that it looks like somebody did it on paint.

456
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: That's just the only looks like someone came up with

457
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: the idea that night and was like, we get these

458
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Speaker 1: flyers out, Like it's like it's an a borrow where

459
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Speaker 1: they're trying to like safe, there's no whatsoever. Oh no,

460
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Speaker 1: somebody who organized hotel workers for a Better Life is

461
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: trying to take that same energy to this and apply

462
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Speaker 1: that to the city. Oh no, ye, like and again,

463
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: and they're using all this dumb ship about socialist puppet

464
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: like okay, thanks, Fox News, we get it. It's all

465
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: this shook rich people who are like like they're coming

466
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, it's it's so disingenuous but again I'm

467
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised in the city that like constantly protects

468
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: people who are just there to uphold the status quo.

469
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: And that's just I think that's that's everywhere, and I

470
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: think that makes it more important, massively important for people

471
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: to understand like what the stakes are, no who, who's

472
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: who's saying what when they try and get your vote,

473
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Speaker 1: or what they think they're going to be able to

474
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Speaker 1: achieve an office, because for too long it's always been

475
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: like what is it? Like most people really are just blue,

476
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: no matter who, and that's it. It's just like, I

477
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Speaker 1: don't know how go in. It's a d D D

478
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Speaker 1: D D d d D D boom, I don't know what,

479
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about. But because it's better

480
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Speaker 1: than the alternative, but still like the alternative of red

481
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: no matter who, but it's still the status quo. I

482
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Speaker 1: think that that. Yeah, and the fact that the Democratic

483
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: Party is incapable of fighting hard unless it's fighting against

484
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: leftist for some reason, or you know, it's incapable of

485
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: fighting against this a status quo that public energy has

486
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: turned against. Well, the thing is they are the status quo,

487
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: so they can't do anything except fucking grunt to protect

488
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: the status quo. That's all it is. It's that simple.

489
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: It can't fire men mean whether they're all pointing at

490
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: each other, but it's literally they're they're pointing at themselves.

491
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, Okay, we thought maybe not superheroes. And

492
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: I think that's why the impulses, Well, who are these

493
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: people who are trying to funk up the status quo? Correct,

494
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: they're not welcome here. If you're here too, if you

495
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: know how to talk and you know what the you

496
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: know what fucking time it is, then sure, come aboard, welcome.

497
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: But if you're talking some real, you know, like real

498
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: liberation type ship, they're going to be like whoa, whoa,

499
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: this guy is a socialist puppet and I think it's

500
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: really fucked up. And the other thing too, I just

501
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: with just to kind of address something that Gavin Newsom's

502
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: talking about. He's like, man, like, you know, there's like

503
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: this this red wave is coming. There's a lot of

504
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 1: talk of this, and there's only recently has there been

505
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: a lot of like actual analysis, quantitative analysis into how

506
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: the Republicans are actually like because real clear Politics and

507
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Speaker 1: Hive thirty eight basically do like a like a an

508
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Speaker 1: average of public polls, Like Republicans have been really like

509
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: being like, yo, we need to put out more polls

510
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: to see if we can shift things a little bit

511
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: and change the numbers, and a lot of people have

512
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: been like they're they're averaging a lot of weird polls

513
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: in there. Not to say that there is no red

514
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: wave or the Democrats are like, don't worry about anything,

515
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: but there's like misinformation or just pressure campaigns from like

516
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: every fucking dimension right now going into these mid terms

517
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: that it is just so much that even like Democrats

518
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: like what the fucker is the polls saying without really

519
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: looking at it, and then be like what have we

520
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: been not doing? When again, it's just the solution is

521
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: always simple. It's just, you know, invest in people who

522
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: have less, and if you're unequivocal about that, it's gonna

523
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: it'll resonate more than saying ship like these whatever like

524
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: whatever fucking political buzzwords either party uses, like like everyone

525
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: is so afraid of like just speaking really clearly and

526
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: that's really all I mean, I think that's that's the

527
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: magic in communicating to people. But because our political you

528
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: know the way we speak or at least people who

529
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: are running for politics or in office is so like

530
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: well defined that the second you deviate, it's like it's

531
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: just sets off fucking alarm bells for people. I just

532
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: wanted to get this point in as I'm listening to

533
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: you all talk about this. The thing that has been

534
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 1: bugging me the most about watching all of this is

535
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: I find that I always say this in certain generations,

536
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: and people are always like, wow, I never thought about this,

537
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to drop this dime here or

538
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: drop this piece here that I think that we, even

539
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: as though which trying to talk about democracy, there's still

540
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: this conversation of folks who are invested in privilege versus liberation.

541
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that's kind of getting

542
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: everybody all messed up, right. There's this notion that oh, well,

543
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm democratic, or I'm I'm you know, I'm I'm a

544
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: damn so I do this, this, that and the other.

545
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: But I'm going, but are you still rooted? Is your

546
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: work being rooted and making sure that you know we

547
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: have liberty, that we have justice, that we have access,

548
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: or that we even can just fucking live Like at

549
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: this point, so many of us are living check to check,

550
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: especially here on the West Coast. And so there's all

551
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: of these things that folks are saying, but I'm still going, yeah,

552
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: that's rooted in privilege. That's not rooted in the idea

553
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: that you want to actually do something about the issues

554
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: that we all as marginalized people face here on the

555
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: West Coast. But that's neither here nor there. I just

556
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: wanted to drop that, no, And I think that is

557
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: an important distinction for people to make within themselves, right,

558
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: because there's one version, which is like, well, I just

559
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: want stability and like this person seems like they're offering it.

560
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: And there's another where you say, I cannot abide while

561
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: so many people suffer, and we have to fucking get

562
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: our heads out of the fucking ground and realize we

563
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: need to pursue. What you're talking about is liberation, the

564
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: idea that the that you can liberate somebody or free

565
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: them from an oppressive situation. There in that that is

566
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: the end goal that people do not have to experience

567
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: in existence like that. And if that, if you center that,

568
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: then a lot of this ship politicians say look like

569
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: bullshit and sound like bullshit because you're like wait, because

570
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: of thinking about yeah, right exactly, because you're saying, oh,

571
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: you know what, that's that's not really liberate. They're not

572
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: talking about real liberation here. They're just talking about policy

573
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: to help sort of alter the status quo in small ways,

574
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: to sort of keep the temperature down that people aren't like, now,

575
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: we gotta blow this whole thing up, Like this whole

576
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: system that we have is completely fucked up and we

577
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: need something different. And I think that's why right now

578
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: they're fighting so hard against people, especially younger people who

579
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: are less religious and want like are like, man, we've

580
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: been sucked over by all policies for a minute. Now.

581
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: I think we have some new ship we want to

582
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: bring to the table. That's why so much energy is

583
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: put into me like not shut these fucking people down,

584
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: shut them the fun yeah, and the death of the

585
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: energy behind the like it's just the Republicans. I mean,

586
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: this kind of ties into the you know, attempted assassination

587
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: of Nancy Pelosi that is being like tree turned into

588
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: just like a punchline on the right, and just you know,

589
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: the mainstream media is reporting on it, but it's I

590
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: don't that side is the only side that is preaching

591
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: a message that is an alternative to the status quo,

592
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: because yeah, the Democrats are still the funding is behind

593
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: the status quo. The you know that the entire industry

594
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: of Democrats, you know, political consultants, is behind the status quo.

595
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: They're using old data to be like, well, the Democrats

596
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: just need to capture or this broad middle by being

597
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: centrist and and staying steering clear of socialism and like

598
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: that word being and that's where all the money is.

599
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 1: But that's not where any of the any of the

600
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: energy is. And so the fact that the only energy

601
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: that is outside the status quo is this like fascist

602
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: violent movement on the right, is it's just a really

603
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, we we've talked about that that like the

604
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: only alternative that's being offered to the mainstream Republicans and

605
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: Democrats is fascism on the right. Like that's dangerous. And

606
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: this is what you start to see is that people

607
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: people see, you know, the sight of someone breaking into

608
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: a mansion, and it's something that like both sides have

609
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: been you know saying to some degree, is like, you know,

610
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: the only time they'll start listening is like by going

611
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: into into mansions and and making them listen. And like

612
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: the fascists are the first ones to get there, and

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00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: it's it's just like a really dangerous time, you know,

614
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: because like there is that energy and like that they're

615
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: downplaying an attempted assassination and getting away with it because

616
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: that that's they are acting on the thing that you know,

617
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon saw and the lead up to the election,

618
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of people saw and the lead up

619
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: to the election, which is like America needs an alternative

620
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: that's outside the mainstream system and if you're if the

621
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: only person offering that is a fascist, that's what they're

622
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna go with. And it's just I don't see where

623
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: this turns around. Like this is kind of the darkest

624
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: outlook I've ever seen for the country because we're we're

625
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: at that place that we had feared we would get

626
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: to when fascism is the only alternative outside of this

627
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: thing that nobody believes in, and now it's being kind

628
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: of normalized, Like fascism and fascist violence is just being normalized.

629
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Speaker 1: It's a it's a really dangerous, scary fucking place. I

630
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: know you guys talked about it yesterday, but this is

631
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: just me hop Yeah, man, this is fucking scary, Like

632
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: Brent Tannehill. There's a piece in The New Republic called

633
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: we don't have a political violence problem like Republicans do,

634
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: and I think it's from Tim Noah, but Brent Tannehill

635
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: was like referencing in this tweet threat because the work

636
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Speaker 1: like that she was doing, like just being in Iraq

637
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Speaker 1: watching that place completely tear itself apart, and she's saying,

638
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: like it this is this is quite literally how it starts.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have an aggrieved party that's going to

640
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: come in and retaliations will begin and people will begin

641
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: to be like okay, like even increased fracturing, as like

642
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff becomes more normal. But just saying

643
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: that it's it's it doesn't take much for things to

644
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: completely go south like this. But also the idea that

645
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Republicans that that they are also miscalculating, that they that

646
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: the idea that they could just come to power and

647
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: everyone will accept it and that there will be no resistance.

648
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: That's happened in some places, But there's also a lot

649
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: to say that this is also the time when insurgent

650
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Speaker 1: groups really also begin to develop too and also start

651
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Speaker 1: enacting retaliatory violence against the party in power and just

652
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Speaker 1: and then away we go right. Uh. And once that happens,

653
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: as she says, it's like once the toothpaste out of

654
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: the tube, that's it. What do you do? Right? What

655
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: do you do? I was gonna say, I think the

656
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Speaker 1: biggest thing that I've been watching is I mean, for

657
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: was it six seven years, We've watched certain people in

658
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Speaker 1: positions of power do things and there was no rep

659
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: you know, there's no repercussions for it. And so that's

660
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Speaker 1: the reason why we're seeing so much of this happened.

661
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know, if this person and privilege

662
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Speaker 1: is not gonna get trouble for doing X, Y and Z,

663
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: then I'll just do it too. And I think that

664
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Speaker 1: that's where that privileged conversation comes from, to like there's

665
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: we're talking about the issues, yes, but no one is

666
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: talking about the way that white supremacy has moved and

667
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: continues to move to tell people that they can do

668
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: things and get away with it. And I think that's

669
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: the thing for me where I've been sitting with for

670
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Speaker 1: maybe the last you know, we see kind of glimpses

671
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: of you know, people getting thrown in jail or people

672
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Speaker 1: being subpoena and we're having this. But I think that's

673
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Speaker 1: why so many people were so upset with that January

674
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: six kind of you know counsel that they put together,

675
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: because they were saying, why is it taking so long

676
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: for for somebody who clearly did this terribly heinous thing

677
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: to be, you know, to be treated as a criminal.

678
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Speaker 1: And so now you have people making criminal and doing

679
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Speaker 1: criminal things and being like, well, if eating in trouble

680
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Speaker 1: for it, then why why you know, why will I

681
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: it's it's whatever. So it's just, you know, I agree,

682
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: it is a very scary time, and it especially for

683
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: someone like myself who is queer and black and very

684
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: vocal about it, It just it always makes me wonder,

685
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Speaker 1: you know, who's watching me or who's watching other folks

686
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: like myself who are doing the work. Mm hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's an interesting stat you know that she talks about

688
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Speaker 1: how like forty percent of Americans are ready to basically

689
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Speaker 1: are just in favor of the idea that America should

690
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Speaker 1: be a Christian nation. Then you couple that with the

691
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Speaker 1: fact that young people are much less likely to be

692
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Speaker 1: religious at all. So on one side, you'll have a

693
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Speaker 1: group of religious people who feel like this is the

694
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Speaker 1: identity of the country plus probably like a numerical majority

695
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Speaker 1: of people who aren't looking for like some to live

696
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Speaker 1: in some kind of theocracy, and talks about how that

697
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: you're going to have an increased population too of young people,

698
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: a largely secular majority of young people who have little

699
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: economic prospects, no saying government, and no hope for peaceful change.

700
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Speaker 1: What the funk do you think is going to happen?

701
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Speaker 1: Because this is pretty much an exact description of the

702
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Speaker 1: situation in Iran, except there are three nine million guns

703
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: just lying around. That's right, Yeah, I mean when you

704
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Speaker 1: read there, there's a Guardian article where you know, some

705
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Speaker 1: yet another expert is like, I used to think of

706
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: US civil war was unlikely. Then I did this pole

707
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: and you know, realized that with these opinions and this

708
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Speaker 1: many guns, we're America. This was in the Guardians, so

709
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: somebody from you know, at least the article is from

710
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: an overseas perspective, being like it's pretty bleak over there.

711
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: And there's something really interesting too. There was a just

712
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Speaker 1: there was another poll recently about like the concept of

713
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Speaker 1: the threat to democracy that each like how each party

714
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Speaker 1: sees it, right, Democrats see the SEV believe that there

715
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Speaker 1: are threats to the democracy, and when they follow up

716
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Speaker 1: with qualitatively, what does that mean exactly, the answer is

717
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: candidates not accepting election results. That's the biggest threat that

718
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Speaker 1: they see. Seventies six percent of Republicans also believe that

719
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Speaker 1: there are threats to our democracy. How would they define that?

720
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Speaker 1: They divide define that as quote votes not being counted accurately.

721
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Speaker 1: Mm hm. So you see, like how there's this there.

722
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Speaker 1: We're looking at the same coin, you know what I mean,

723
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: but just from both sides, and it's it's and it's

724
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: like it's really toxic because we're throughout all of this,

725
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Speaker 1: the chaos of it all too. We're also like leaving,

726
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Speaker 1: We're leaving out the big part of what fuels a

727
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Speaker 1: lot of this move towards the ship, which is again inequality,

728
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Speaker 1: which is lack of opportunity, which is if people are

729
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: so destitute, and I references yesterday that psychologically people will

730
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Speaker 1: be more open to someone who's like, hey man, I

731
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Speaker 1: got these fucking rules and there will be control And

732
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Speaker 1: people say, you know what, I kind of like that

733
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Speaker 1: because I feel I felt way too out of control

734
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Speaker 1: and shifts felt way too chaotic for me, and if

735
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Speaker 1: I have to give up some rights, then so be it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I will say is like to watch

737
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Speaker 1: young people rally around each other and like support each other,

738
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Speaker 1: like in high school as you see this like with

739
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: like a lot of kids, like you know, with there's

740
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Speaker 1: some kind of bullshit anti LGBTQ policy comes in, and

741
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: you see students actually organize themselves to support each other.

742
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: That isn't intangible that I look at him like, that's interesting,

743
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: for sure. I don't know where that goes. But again,

744
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: like to the point that Brent Tannehill's making is clearly

745
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: have young people who are looking at the world a

746
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: different way too, And they also they're like these people

747
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: will become older and will become adults and living under

748
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: a situation like this. Again, yet to her point is like,

749
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: it's not a good you. This isn't a recipe you want.

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00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: And to your point, psychologically, we're dealing with two massive

751
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: things that are draining any energy, any ability of people

752
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: to get behind energetically the status quo. I've multiple things,

753
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: but you know, two things that just aren't acknowledged. Is

754
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: one the steady state of economic inequality, Like starting with

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00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: the two thousand eight like you know, economic crisis and

756
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: the fact that the people who we're running a scam

757
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: just got away with it and got bonuses, and that

758
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: can that system continues to run the economy just feels

759
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: like it's an underrated reality that everybody just kind of

760
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: moves past. But that's I think that's where a lot

761
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: of this energy started. And then the climate change that

762
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier this week, that climate change is

763
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: this massive existential problem, like couldn't be a bigger problem

764
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: that the powers that be, the current like status quo

765
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: powers have just continued to kind of ignore or kind

766
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: of not do anything about while acknowledging that it's an

767
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: existential threat. Like psychologically, like those any you know energy

768
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: you try to pour into the mainstream status quo like

769
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: Democrat or Republican Party, like those are pretty big drains

770
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: like those are that's gonna sap sap energy pretty quickly

771
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: for any type of solution. But it just it feels

772
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: like it's been sort of digested and like built into

773
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: how we talk about these things. But those are I

774
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: think big reasons why young people are having to come

775
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: up with alternate solutions faster than the mainstream media is

776
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: ready to even acknowledge m hm. And that's why aliens

777
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: won't visit us. They're slowing down, and I'm like, please

778
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: come on, we'll get it together. Come back, please help us,

779
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Like please please please take me a vacation. I will

780
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: glack it. Pay an alien to abduct me at this

781
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: take me away in your gene jacket. I don't give

782
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: a funk man, I don't look anymore. I've seen everything

783
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: but God at this point. But you know, like, uh,

784
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: where was I going to go? Oh? So, like you know,

785
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: just like this generational divide, right, do you have this?

786
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: All of our leaders are like septagenarians who have who

787
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 1: have managed to say, you know what, my greedy ass

788
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: managed to get it this far, thinking like this and

789
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: do all this ship, what's really the problem with it?

790
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: Then you have another half of the fucking world who

791
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: was either trying to get on in two thousand eight

792
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: or were children in two thousand and eight, and said,

793
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: why the funk are my parents crying? Why the funk

794
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: do we have to move? Why the funk are we

795
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: in a van? Now? Why the funk is? Why did

796
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: this happen? Why the fund did I why did we

797
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: go broke? Because my grandpa got sick. A lot of

798
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: people are growing up in that reality too, and they

799
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: don't realize there's no amount of propaganda that will erase

800
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: like the actual human experience of like witnessing suffering firsthand,

801
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: and as these people who are looking at the world

802
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: a little bit different that well, like ship didn't benefit

803
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: from Reagan's tax cuts. I didn't benefit from this other ship.

804
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean I grew up in an environment there, but

805
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: my lived experience as someone trying to become an adult

806
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: put my like go to you know, get a job

807
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: after college and do all this other ship. That whole

808
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: idea of how the world works is completely just exploded.

809
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: And so a lot of us come in come into

810
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: adulthood being like, well, all of this ship is wrong.

811
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like the tension that we're you

812
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: know that like that we're really experiencing between you know,

813
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: leaders and younger people. But again, the sort of the

814
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: the reaction or the instincts of those in powers like Okay,

815
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: this is just like my grandkids. They're spoiled, you know

816
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: what I mean, They're they're just Politic of America is

817
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: allergic to socialism and it lacks any similar allergy to fascism.

818
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: So it's gonna that that is is going to take

819
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: ten times the energy to push for leftist reforms then

820
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: it will to get fascist for But yeah, I mean,

821
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: like when you start off being like, Yo, God told

822
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: me I could kick y'all the funk out of here, right,

823
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Speaker 1: is the fucking is in your d n A. I

824
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Speaker 1: don't know how the funk. I don't know how the

825
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: funk you turn that clock back. I honestly don't you

826
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like that is probably like this

827
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: is that idea of manifest destiny and chattel slavery and

828
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: like all of that to build this country up and

829
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: then kind of look away from be like yeah, we

830
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: were just kind of here, bab. I don't know. It's

831
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: kind of like this, you know, to betray those realities,

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00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: you know. It really it just permeates through everything and

833
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: are like patterns of exploitation and things like that, so

834
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I think that's that's why a huge

835
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: part of not having to teach history or have these

836
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: reckonings is you know, helps people kind of go along

837
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: with things and be like, yeah, it seemed to seemed

838
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: to work to this point. Yeah, all right, well, speaking

839
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: of turning the clock back, a new Netflix series is

840
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: turning the clock back to it. We're talking about Blockbuster,

841
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: the new Netflix show We'll be right back and We're back.

842
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: And yeah. So Blockbuster, which depending on your age, is

843
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: like sort of an old it's like Atari for a

844
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: younger generation where it's like, I've pread y'all talk about this.

845
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Speaker 1: I don't really funk with it. It sounds bad, but

846
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: I can see your nostalgia for it. But they were

847
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: the big person on the block when Netflix came around,

848
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: and Netflix tried to sell to them, and Blockbuster I

849
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: think literally laughed them out of the room, laughed in

850
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: their face. And now Netflix, now Blockbuster. There is one

851
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: Blockbuster left. Netflix made a little documentary about it that

852
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: was like, oh, look at this cute little guy, still

853
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: still sticking around. And now they turned that because that

854
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: was very popular into a whole series, which yeah, I mean,

855
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: our writer Jam was like, it's a little like if

856
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker made a sitcom all about the day to

857
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: day operations of the Death Star, because it's just y'all

858
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: are supposed to be enemies, but right so, like after

859
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: he blew it up, he comes through and it's like,

860
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: and then let's make this silly show about what it

861
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: was like to try and find love in the Death

862
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: Star moments before. But it's also a little bit like

863
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: if somebody made a sitcom, you know, twenty years from now,

864
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: if Amazon just eats all Walmarts and Walmart's no longer exists,

865
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: if everyone was like, remember Walmart's, those were the days,

866
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: and and makes a sitcom about, like, you know, fun quirky,

867
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: the last little quirky Walmart in existence. They had humans Greek.

868
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: They put the old people at the front to say, Hi, wow,

869
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: is that before after the robots? Oh before before before,

870
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: which I guess is the premise of Superstore. Right, it's

871
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: like a quirky every day, a day in the life.

872
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: Look at a Walmart, even though it's called Cloud nine.

873
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: But I think I don't think it's like, Man, this

874
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: place is great. I actually haven't seen Superstore, but I'm

875
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: assuming it's not like Man, these are this is this

876
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: is where it's American dreams go to live. And right

877
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: we have such nineties nostalgia though right now, you know

878
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like people remember this summer, kids walking

879
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 1: around with like Blockbuster fucking shorts, like all over print

880
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: Blockbuster ship and I was like, is that. Like there

881
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: was somebody at the party this weekend dressed as a

882
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: Blockbuster guy. Like he had on the hat and the

883
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: shop and it said Blockbuster and it looked original. Like

884
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he dug it out of like

885
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: his you know, one of the random places, a storage

886
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: unit or something, but he genuinely had on all the

887
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: apparel from Blockbuster and was carrying around a Blockbuster like

888
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: take box with him. It's really interesting. It's just I

889
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: don't like it's like everything is like sort of a

890
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: nod because remember you should like see people. Yeah, a

891
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: lot of it. Like there was also this New York

892
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: Times article about Roku City being it was just basically

893
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: like them reporting on a meme. They're they're like, this

894
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: is kind of turning into a public art project, but

895
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: then they don't really mention any art other than people

896
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: like in tweets speculating about you like to live in

897
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: Roku City. But they do suggest which I think is

898
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: probably accurate. Like it kind of this meme blew up

899
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: when we were in the pandemic and we were just

900
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: looking through our TV screens at a city that still

901
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: seemed to be alive, and that ship was a screen.

902
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: It's a screensaver. It's not like yeah, they're like, wow, yeah,

903
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: Avengers powers back there. If you have a Roku TV

904
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: or like a Roku box or stick or whatever, like,

905
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: it's like a screen saver with it. And so if

906
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: you you know, if you're using like any other system,

907
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: you're not yea like Apple TV has the kind of

908
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: gliding drone shots that are overhead. You know, it's like that,

909
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: except instead of being like a photographs or you know,

910
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: video of real cities, they've invented a crudely animated like

911
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: city that has you know, giant robot attacks happening and

912
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: volcanoes going off and little um little easter eggs too,

913
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: you know, real Hollywood. So it's basically like that wall

914
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: that they're building. Did you hear about that that long

915
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: strip and they said it's gonna take like ninety minutes

916
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: to get from one end to the other. And they're

917
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: like putting all these millions of people in this wall

918
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: and they're not supposed I don't know if you heard

919
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: about that. That's what feels like to me. They're building

920
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: and they say it's it's it's actually happening. There's I

921
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: think it's somewhere in the Middle East, but they're talking

922
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia. I think, so. Yeah, the thing that

923
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: just a big mirror, like the Mirror City. Yeah, I guess,

924
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: but that's what it feels like, or at least that's

925
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing. No, this that is way more futuristic,

926
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: like Roku City feels like like, uh, it's more like

927
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: hand like animated looking, so it feels a little less

928
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: like hyper realistic and more just like it's like looking

929
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: at a snow globe on your teeth, okay, and be like, Wow,

930
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: good people of Roku City. I wish I could live there.

931
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: Kind of the vibe. Some people tweet ship like that.

932
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: The New York Times article, interestingly like interviews the person

933
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: who designed it, but they're like, we had to interview

934
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: them through a Roku like a series of Roku executives

935
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: because they no longer work for Roku. They now work

936
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: for Pisar. But it sounds like they did it on

937
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: as a freelancer. They were just like, yeah, I just

938
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: like kind of you know, pulled a couple of things,

939
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: didn't think much of it, pulled a couple of like

940
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: old designs from other projects I had, and suddenly it's

941
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: like he was, like someone said to me that it

942
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: might be the most viewed piece of art ever because

943
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: it's just constantly on in households that have Roku, and

944
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: a lot of households have Roku, and it is like

945
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: it turns on. You can't escape it. If you're in

946
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: a household that has Roku. It's gonna pop off city Baby. Yeah,

947
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: so there's only one option, which is wild. But yeah, anyways,

948
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: just a you know, l A. They're also going to

949
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: do some Blockbuster nostalgia. They did a Blockbuster theme to

950
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: pop up speak Easy for those of you who wanna

951
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: get drunk while wandering aisles filled with DVD copies of

952
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: the Pelican Brief and Kangaroo Jack. Oh fantastic fantastism. That's

953
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: That's something that I feel like any of these reminiscences

954
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: of Blockbuster are going to leave out that an entire

955
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: wall was filled up with whatever new release there was

956
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: coming from, like Titanic took up half of the just

957
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, it was somewhat surreal because it would

958
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: just be thousands of copies of the same thing as

959
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: like couldn't you all just be like, ask us if

960
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 1: you're looking for Titanic, and like you don't need to

961
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: just put a thousand boxes of it out because a

962
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: lot of Titanic really and it's on two tapes. Yeah, yeah,

963
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: good god. Yeah. I think it's this that that was

964
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: the setup though, you know what I mean, Like they

965
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: just knew when a movie came out, we knew what

966
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: you were like seven thousand copies of it and fun

967
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: your local video store because Blockbuster had all that ship,

968
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I remember we should

969
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: go to this one place called Video West. It was

970
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: like they have art like art fucking movies, and my

971
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: dad would want like, you know, ship like that. But

972
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: then you could get like a Ninja turtle tape or

973
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: whatever for me. And then once Blockbuster pulled up like

974
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: two blocks from my house, We're like, oh funk that

975
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: they got sucking everything and you could buy fucking goobers. Okay,

976
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: hey Blockbuster and they got a refrigerator case. And I

977
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: think that was you know, I think what also happened

978
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: there too, is like it also was like there was

979
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot of other ship that wasn't available anymore that

980
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: block Like when you went to a Blockbuster, like it

981
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: all sort of sort of conformed to like what the

982
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: whatever mainstream entertainment there was that was out there. Yeah,

983
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: I just want to know when we're going to get

984
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: the story behind Hollywood Video. When are we going to

985
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: get that? Right? Yeah? Did they have Hollywood Video out

986
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 1: by you? Anywait? Was Hollywood Video nationwide? I think it was? Okay, Yeah,

987
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean I'm pretty sure they had Hollywood Video and

988
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: Lex in Massachusetts when I lived there. Oh yeah, you

989
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: know it looks like it was. Yeah, they had, they

990
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: had many many shows, many many stores, but they came

991
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: after Blockbuster, right, wasn't When when we start to see

992
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: the downfall of Warehouse and Blockbuster is when Hollywood Video

993
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: kind of swooped in. They became kind of like the

994
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 1: best buy to what happened to Circuit City. So yeah,

995
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: I mean our former guest Kate Hagan was pointing out

996
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: the Disney Plus and Netflix combined only has about of

997
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: the collection size of your average local Blockbuster. Wow, So

998
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean I thought Blockbuster was light. Yeah, it's I mean,

999
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: I understand like and and it's cool to just like, yeah,

1000
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: like you said earlier, see people smell candy. I'm telling

1001
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: you everything. There's I've read so many studies recently that

1002
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: are just talking about how just so much normal ship

1003
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: is gone, like the idea that like you gotta goal,

1004
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: you gotta and out for something, which inherently meant you

1005
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: were out in the street, like you were around people

1006
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: or like that there were places that you would like

1007
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: gather where the main function of gathering wasn't to buy something.

1008
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Like we don't really have spaces like that in the US,

1009
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Like there's no no town square or whatever. Like everything's

1010
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: like you go to a bar, or you go to

1011
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: this like whatever, you go to the movie theater and

1012
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: things like that. There aren't just like places that like

1013
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: the idea or we've moved away from just these other

1014
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: things like in other cultures that are much more prevalent

1015
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: about being like we meet up at this place and

1016
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: then we kind of shoot the ship talk. Somebody brings

1017
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: beers or whatever, we get to smoke sigre, like you know,

1018
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: people just do their ship. There's just all these like

1019
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: really small things of like interaction that are just slowly,

1020
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: slowly eroding away. And I mean, I can only that

1021
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: has to be a huge part in the why people

1022
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: are so invested in like this nostalgic stuff. I know

1023
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: I am because that is what I think about. I

1024
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 1: think about not necessarily that I'm like, man, I didn't

1025
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: know shit about geopolitics when I was eleven. I want

1026
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: to go back to then. I mean shit, I would

1027
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: like to. But there was also something about like the

1028
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: idea that like I felt like they were just more

1029
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: I felt like there were more possibilities rather than like

1030
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: they're like, I don't know you going out to do

1031
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: these three things? Then why are you going out right?

1032
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 1: And I think that's like, yeah, there's like I read

1033
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: that article too, and it made me think about related

1034
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: but not related, the same notion of like, um, I

1035
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: saw an article about how malls are dying and like

1036
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: the malls becoming a thing of yester year, and I

1037
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: was thinking that, like it used to be a thing

1038
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,479
Speaker 1: Saturday you would go to the mall. You would spend

1039
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: all day, you know, trousing through all of the different stores,

1040
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: listening to music at you know, sam Goodies or whatever,

1041
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: and then at night you would go to Blockbuster get

1042
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: your video and you know, invite your friends over and

1043
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: you would watch movies. And it just nothing feels like

1044
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: that anymore like I even find myself being like, man,

1045
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: I missed those days of like yester year really of

1046
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: being able to go into Blockbuster getting the smell and

1047
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: also that little tap thing that they would put on

1048
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: your you know that they would pass you would have

1049
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: forgot to rewind something or it was late, right, you know,

1050
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: so like the little green tab that that basically you

1051
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: said you didn't rewind your movie like that, that for

1052
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: me is what I miss. Yeah, I don't know, Yeah

1053
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: there is, and I get like other places where I

1054
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: think l A is particularly fucked up in this sense

1055
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: because it's so sprawling, it's so poorly fucking planned. It's

1056
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: like hostile if you don't have a car. So because

1057
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: of that, like we're we're else, we're experiencing that like

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Speaker 1: at an accelerated pace. But I think that's I think

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Speaker 1: that's just the other part of it is like you

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Speaker 1: realize there are a lot of things we take for

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00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: granted that like oh, ship, like I actually have to

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00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: put the effort now to be like, hey, you want

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00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: to go to the park, we just go kick the

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Speaker 1: fucking ball. Man, Let's go, fucking dude, Like just some

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00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: other ship that were that was like less tied to

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Speaker 1: consumption really, and I think that's just like a really

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00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: fucked up part of like living in America, like because

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00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: we've were hit with so much marketing and ship everything

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00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: is about like what you're doing? Are you grind? Are

1070
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: you on your grind? Or you balling? No? What are

1071
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: you doing? And it's like culture, I gotta start waking

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01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: up at three to work out, right, right, It's like,

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Speaker 1: how about just a co lambo? How how how are

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01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: you at the lambo? Let me let me check my

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: update and my lambo. Nope, I am not Lambeau yet,

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01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: So it's all right, man, I can't talk to you

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01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: about your problems because I'm not Lambo. That's right, right,

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01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: So d lambo your fucking mind and really, like I think,

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01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, like that's what I'm like people used to

1080
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: play music with. I'm always like, yo, let's jam, let's jam.

1081
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: But I want to play. I want to do some

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01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: just like get together and like just connect more than

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01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: like let's go to let's get together and check out

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01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: this new restaurant. Yeah, let's do stuff. Yeah. But I

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01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: mean anyway, just to close the loop on Blockbuster, I

1086
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: think because this is a story about the last Blockbuster.

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01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: It's gonna make Blockbusters seem like an indie video store. Um,

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01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: just for the sake of posterity. Blockbuster was the Walmart

1089
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: of video. They put everybody else out of business by

1090
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, having economies of scale, doing deals with the studios,

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01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: giving the studios a percentage of the of a cut

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01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: of rentals for new releases. They also caved to the

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Speaker 1: pressure of right wing evangelical customers by banning nc ncup

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Speaker 1: NC seventeen titles from their stores, meaning movies like Right,

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01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: Queen for a Dream and Crash the Good One. The

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: Cronenberg One had to release censored R rated versions that

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01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 1: didn't really make sense that and they also just didn't

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01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: have Scorsese's Last Temptation of Christ. And I think that

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Speaker 1: like hurt that movie's ability to kind of enter the

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Speaker 1: bloodstream of the of the zeitgeist because it just wasn't

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Speaker 1: it wasn't on video. You know, you don't say Christians,

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Speaker 1: evangelical Christians are controlling what we see. Yeah, the point

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: of this is obviously to go back to a time

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01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: when everybody felt safe, but you're still subject to a

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: lot of the same bullshit. It just wasn't as overt

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01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: as as we're seeing more and more today. Yeah, and

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01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: see if you went to Video West, they would have

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Speaker 1: that uncut version of Requiem for a Dream. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's right. Well, Dr John Paul Higgins, what a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you back on the daily like geist.

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01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: It's always a joy. Where can people find you? Follow you,

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Speaker 1: hear you all that good stuff? All right? Well, when

1113
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: I am not dancing around a Crispy kream, you can

1114
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Speaker 1: find me on social media by using the handle at

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Speaker 1: Dr John Paul. You have to spell john j o N.

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Speaker 1: It's not jail h N. I get that a lot. Hey,

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Speaker 1: so it's dl c t O R j o n

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Speaker 1: p a U l um. You can also visit me

1119
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: at ww dot Doctor Jean Paul dot com and also

1120
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: on the Black Fat Film podcast literally drop every Tuesday

1121
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of a lot, a lot a

1122
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: lot of fun. So yes, head over Black Flat Film

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Speaker 1: podcast on the I Heart Network. And is there a

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01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work those social media you've

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Speaker 1: been enjoying? Yes, so I enjoyed this tweet today. It's

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Speaker 1: someone yesterday said, uh well, first trash Jones said, what

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Speaker 1: is your most benign unpopular opinion. I don't mean like

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Speaker 1: the earth is flat type of unpopular opinion. I mean

1129
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: like I think golden retrievers are annoying, unpopular opinion. Someone

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Speaker 1: quote tweeted that by saying egg plant is not good,

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Speaker 1: and I was Lindsay Boylan who said that, And I agree.

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Speaker 1: One eggplant is nasty and y'all keep trying to push

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Speaker 1: it on me. It is not good. It tastes like

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Speaker 1: it tastes like skin It just it's like if you like,

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Speaker 1: it's just like, well, I I loving me my partner,

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Speaker 1: I lovingly like just like you know, kind of like

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Speaker 1: have you ever seen that gift with the hippo who

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01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: just goes and bites the lady like kind of loving

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01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: me bite. That's kind of what I do. Is I

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Speaker 1: love bite my part Yeah, well I don't bite them,

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01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: but like, and that's what an eggplant feels like on

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01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: like my palette. It feels like skinny. I don't know,

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01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: it just it doesn't It's gross to me. So I

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01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: love that tweet. Is your husband an eggplant? My you

1145
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: know what? Somehow you know what You're going to open

1146
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: that cannon door. So I was gonna say, but with

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01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: that being said, no, my husband is not an egg plant.

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Speaker 1: My husband is a human. But overall, I just find

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Speaker 1: egg plant to be very disgusting. I also don't like squash.

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01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: I also don't think any form squash. I just I

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01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: don't like those like I don't know what does they

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01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: call what do they call those? Yes, I don't like cantalope.

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Speaker 1: I don't like any of the stuff with like the

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Speaker 1: herd outside and the soft on the inside. It's gross interesting, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love that plan? Yeah? Does that? Does that go

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: for banana as well? Well? But I enjoyed banana. I

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01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: think banana's good. Yeah, I do love banana. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really funk with that plan either.

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01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna bite somebody and then I

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Speaker 1: have a bite the egg plant and see if I

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Speaker 1: can connect the dots there. I'm gonna try. Miles, where

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Speaker 1: can people find you? And what is the tweet you've

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram

1164
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: at Miles of Gray. Also check Jack and I out

1165
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: on our other podcast, Miles and Jack Got Matt Boost.

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Speaker 1: These are basketball podcast. An episode dropped today. Uh and

1167
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: also Sofia Alexander and I on our ninety Day Fiance

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Speaker 1: podcast for twenty Day Fiance. Uh, some tweets I like.

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Speaker 1: First one was from b e t at BT was

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Speaker 1: just a gift of takeoff. It just said black men

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Speaker 1: deserve to grow old. Uh yeah, I felt that. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then another one is from Burner at Burner don't ask,

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01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: tweeted Jordan Peterson. And then you know what he asked

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Speaker 1: me in my own YouTube comments? Do you know what

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01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: he asked me if i'd tried ligma Joe Rogan, Wow,

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01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: I haven't even heard of that before. What is it?

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01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Peterson tears welling in his eyes. I replied much

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01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: the same. You know that's the setup for ligma balls uh.

1179
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: And that's for people who don't know that troll quality

1180
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: response shit you do on the internet. That or BofA

1181
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: um And then m Knight m Nate Shamlan at m

1182
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: Nate Shamlan tweeted, if we all pay eight dollars for

1183
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: a check mark and change our names to Elon Musk,

1184
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm confident we can Jeremy render app this ship to

1185
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: death in a month, So yeah, that might that might

1186
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: help cause a lot. You can find me on Twitter

1187
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. I really liked some of the

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01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: responses to the U Benign Unpopular Opinion tweet that Dr

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Speaker 1: John was talking about one five should be considered an

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Speaker 1: even number is one that I happened to agree with,

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Speaker 1: and I got a lot of a lot of likes.

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01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: And then what hold on? What is what is the

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Speaker 1: in your mind? How to explain walk me through that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, It just it just feels so

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Speaker 1: so easily divisible. It goes into ten because the most

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Speaker 1: the most even number, So it feels like the number

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01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: that you know is part is. Can you can count

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Speaker 1: by fives and hit a ten? Yeah? Everything multiplying It's

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Speaker 1: like it's e gonna be a five or zero at

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Speaker 1: the end of that one. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's just

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Speaker 1: something very even. The vibes are okay, even even vibes.

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01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: And then Guy Frera tweeted, we ran out of fetanal

1203
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: half an hour ago and we're still getting tricker treaters.

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Speaker 1: I thought forty five thousand dollars worth would be enough,

1205
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: but I'll need to get even more next year, which

1206
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 1: so that somebody tweeted was like they it actually happened

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: because I guess some police force somewhere was like they

1208
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: someone accidentally handed out some nerds ropes with THHC in it,

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01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: and they're like, so we were right that drug dealers

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Speaker 1: were going to hand out fentonel two people systems and

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Speaker 1: one high whatever. Did you see those tweets that were

1212
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: the dude was offering and people are offering a potato

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Speaker 1: versus candy, Like they put that in the bowl just

1214
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: to see what kids would do. The candy would be

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01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: like just a fucking like a Rusty Potter golden potato

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Speaker 1: in there, and they said, well, let you know, like

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Speaker 1: the findings and one person was just like one girl

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Speaker 1: proudly proclaimed potato. She walked away from the door and

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Speaker 1: like a lot of kids are working with the potato.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's amazing. Uh all right, Well, you can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at daily zi Guist. Were at

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Speaker 1: d Daily's I Guist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

1224
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Speaker 1: fan page and a website daily ze guys dot com,

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's

1227
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Speaker 1: episode as well as the song that we think you

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01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to definitely enjoy this track from

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Speaker 1: Lady donn Lee and the like the Legos Panic. It's

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Speaker 1: called Thunderstorm and Suu Larrey and Lady Donneley she's he's dope.

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Speaker 1: She's like born in the States but grew up in Nigeria,

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Speaker 1: and like it's been going back and forth between like Nigeria,

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01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: London and like Canada. It's just like they you know.

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Speaker 1: I think she calls up the Pan African rock star,

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01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good description. This song is

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: really dope because it's got like very like you could

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01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: tell the like Afro beat influence in it, but also

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01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: like kind of that rock field and I just think

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01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: it's super interesting her music Stope. So this is Lady

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Speaker 1: don Ley deal and l I and this is called

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Speaker 1: Thunderstorm and su rou Laray s U r U l

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Speaker 1: e r e amazing. What we will link off to

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Speaker 1: that in the footnotes the daily like guys to the

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01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts for my

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast,

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01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: going to do it for us this morning, back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will

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Speaker 1: talk to you all that. Bye bye bye