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Speaker 2: Oh what's going on everybody?

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Hope you're off to a pleasant start on

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Speaker 3: should be. So the NFL Draft, we are less than

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Speaker 3: two weeks away.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We're like a Measley twelve days away until this thing

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Speaker 3: actually happens.

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Speaker 2: Seems like we've been talking about it forever.

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Speaker 3: But it's like Mills Lane, the late great you know,

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Speaker 3: boxing judge, let's get it on. We're about to do

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Speaker 3: that pretty soon here. But Bryce Young, the Alabama quarterback,

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Speaker 3: now the overwhelming favorite to be the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: He overtakes c. J. Stroud, the Ohio State quarterback, who

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Speaker 3: once was the the overwhelming favorite to be the number

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Speaker 3: one overall pick. Now it is Bryce Young, and we

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Speaker 3: have just gone flip flap city over here. We've pulled

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Speaker 3: a one point eighty and now it's expected to be

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young number one to the Carolina Panthers. Quite the

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Speaker 3: turn of events fellas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, especially because they're so different. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I if this was a situation where, you know, from

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Speaker 4: a standpoint of the systems they played in, and from

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Speaker 4: a standpoint of their frame and how they how they

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Speaker 4: how they prepared for the upcoming draft. You know, I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying like in terms of like the workouts they

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Speaker 4: did and things like that, but just how they looked

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Speaker 4: while they were working out at their pro days individually

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Speaker 4: or at the combine. It really, it really is a

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Speaker 4: strange turn of events. Now, one thing that I will

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Speaker 4: caution everybody who is obviously got a gambling interest in

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Speaker 4: the draft, or you know, just from a standpoint of

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Speaker 4: Carolina fans, you know, because who does this affect the

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Speaker 4: most is people who care about this team and who

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Speaker 4: they take a quarterback, because it's going to affect this

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Speaker 4: franchise for at very least the next three years, if

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Speaker 4: not five, potentially a decade because you also traded some

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Speaker 4: draft capital away to to trade up to get whoever

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Speaker 4: they select first. Yeah, this this is liar's poker still,

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Speaker 4: you know, so sourced reports come out, you know, headwinds

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Speaker 4: shift and everybody is trying to get a beat on

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Speaker 4: what the Carolina Panthers are doing. They may have their

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Speaker 4: reasons to want everybody to think they're taking Bryce Young

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Speaker 4: right now, and maybe they're not. I'm I'm very curious

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Speaker 4: who ends up getting selected first overall. But yeah, that

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Speaker 4: was that was something that I didn't necessarily see coming.

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Speaker 4: But again, within two weeks away from the draft, we're

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Speaker 4: going to see a lot more sourced reporting from a

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Speaker 4: lot more teams about who they're targeting, who whatever bet.

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Speaker 1: On the draft? Guys, Come on, who would do such

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Speaker 1: a thing? I mean, that's just it.

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Speaker 5: It's absolute insanity, right, No, I'll be honest, I think

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Speaker 5: it's I don't want to say it's a done deal,

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Speaker 5: because nothing in life is a done deal. But when

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Speaker 5: the gambling market moves so decisively the way that it

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Speaker 5: has at this stage, right when the trade happened with Carolina,

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Speaker 5: we saw the shift towards c J. Stroud, I'll be honest,

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Speaker 5: I don't know why. I don't know if we ever

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Speaker 5: got a definitive reason what you know, who thought c J.

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Speaker 5: Stroud was the guy? But from that point on, it's

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Speaker 5: been it's been Bryce Young, and I do think right

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Speaker 5: now it's more about who's getting taken second that's the

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Speaker 5: intrigue with this draft, than who's getting taken first. And

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Speaker 5: for me personally, it was the S two score for

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Speaker 5: Bryce Young that really sealed the deal, and that's when

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Speaker 5: you really started to see the market moved to the

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Speaker 5: point where it is now where it's just really hard to.

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Speaker 1: Bet on on.

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Speaker 5: Bright's young, but also pretty definitively saying that that he's

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Speaker 5: going to be the first pick, and I think it

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Speaker 5: makes sense.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense to me.

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Speaker 5: I think when you look at this quarterback group, remember

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Speaker 5: when it was Will Levis and Anthony Richardson that was

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Speaker 5: gonna be taken first overall. Richardson I think is going

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Speaker 5: to be the faller of this group. And from what

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Speaker 5: I'm hearing, there's a pretty big gap, or at least

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Speaker 5: a gap, I don't really know how big, but a

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Speaker 5: I think Stroud maybe at four to the Colts makes sense.

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Speaker 5: If the Colts move out of that pick, maybe someone

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Speaker 1: Stroud at three.

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Speaker 5: But I think two is kind of the interesting pick

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Speaker 5: now because to me, I think it's pretty set that

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Speaker 5: that that Bryce is gonna be a Carolina Panther.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I didn't buy it from the beginning, and it's not

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Speaker 3: to just like pat myself on the back, although there's

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Speaker 3: a little pat.

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Speaker 1: I'd yeah, you get pie, I'll give you a little pat.

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Speaker 3: When the Panthers pole vaulted up to the number one

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Speaker 3: to be the number one overall pick, I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he could be the guy, but I don't know why

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Speaker 3: it was so overwhelming. Yeah, where my thought was, is

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Speaker 3: Frank Reich his godfather or something.

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Speaker 5: Like that might have been the comment when he was

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Speaker 5: seeing Carolina, right who soon made that comment or seeing

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Speaker 5: Charlotte someone made that comment to CJ.

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Speaker 3: With thought, Oh what Josh McCown saying yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: That could have I mean, it could have been something

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Speaker 3: Well, and that was down the road a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It was initially Panthers move up to number one and

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Speaker 3: c J. Stroud is like minus three hundred. You gotta

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Speaker 3: lay basically three hundred to win one hundred. So he's

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Speaker 3: an overwhelming favorite and I was just like, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: didn't know why there was that much steam, and now

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Speaker 3: it's gone in the exact opposite direction. I also think,

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Speaker 3: like you said, Jared, what happens at number two? What

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Speaker 3: did the Texans do? Did they Let's just say it's

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young. There are reports. Believe what you want, but

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Speaker 3: there are reports that Houston really wanted Bryce Young. And

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Speaker 3: did they pivot away from a quarterback entirely at the

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Speaker 3: next year's draft with Caleb Williams and Drake May there.

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Speaker 3: I'm really curious what the Houston Texans do if they

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Speaker 3: go quarterback or not. And the other part about this

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Speaker 3: is lying season. There's no doubt about that. But it

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Speaker 3: depends where you are in the draft and whether you're

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Speaker 3: one overall pick, you really don't need to go crazy.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to go rogue with your lying comments.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you an example, the Arizona Cardinals. If you're

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Speaker 3: member man this is Anthony Richardson is looking pretty good

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Speaker 3: uh oh yeah, to make a move that lie would

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Speaker 3: make more sense for the Panthers to lie at number one.

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Speaker 3: That to me wouldn't make any sense at all.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's where it does make sense to me. And

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Speaker 4: I floated this idea, and I know you guys kind

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Speaker 4: of giggled at it. But there have been some reports

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Speaker 4: that Carolina's GM has toyed with the idea of trading

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Speaker 4: back down to get even more draft capital out of

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Speaker 4: the pick this year. And here's how right, you know,

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Speaker 4: So say the whole time it's Bryce Young, like you know,

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Speaker 4: Frank Reich becomes the new head coach, they make this trade,

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Speaker 4: they fall, they're all in consensus, like it's Bryce Young

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Speaker 4: who we want. But you float out CJ. Stroud for

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Speaker 4: the first, you know, month and a half to see

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Speaker 4: if anybody will jump up to first overall with a

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Speaker 4: crazy package that'll encourage you to trade down, including maybe

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Speaker 4: the Houston Texans maybe at number two overall, their soul

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Speaker 4: that Stroud is the quarterback of their future. And if

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Speaker 4: that's not the guy that you want, you give the

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Speaker 4: pick to Houston, you move down to second overall, you

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Speaker 4: still get the guy you've wanted the whole time, and

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Speaker 4: you move on with your life with even more draft

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Speaker 4: capital than you had in the first place. Like that

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Speaker 4: is a distinct possibility. Now is it a reality? I

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Speaker 4: don't know, but it's a possibility. Look like you said,

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Speaker 4: I when you're you're a little bit more protected at

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Speaker 4: first overall than you are at third overall. So there's

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Speaker 4: less you can really lie about Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 4: whoever is gonna be. I mean, we're splitting hairs because

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Speaker 4: we're talking about some of the most elite winners and

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Speaker 4: greatest talents coming out of the draft this year and

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Speaker 4: college football overall in terms of quarterbacks in a long time.

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Speaker 4: But but yeah, I could. That's the only argument that

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Speaker 4: I could feasibly make that would make sense to float

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Speaker 4: trade down to a draft slot that you feel comfortable

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Speaker 4: first overall pick in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Remind me never to sit at a poker table with Rich.

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Speaker 5: Gonna be firing off bets, bluffs all in with a aceaw,

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Speaker 5: you know, deuce offt suit No, I I think.

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Speaker 1: Or what was the Doyle bruntson the two ten wuld

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that guy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh man. Now I want to go play some poker.

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Speaker 5: But but that's it's actually a very fitting metaphor, frankly,

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Speaker 5: to this draft or to any draft, especially the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 5: and the way that I like to kind of go

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Speaker 5: is kind of top down. First of all, the draft

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Speaker 5: is like my favorite event to try to predict, and

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Speaker 5: from a betting perspective, I've had a lot of success

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Speaker 5: betting it because it's not a random event, right, I'm

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Speaker 5: It is very much journalistically driven, and you know that's

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Speaker 5: the one thing I like to do is I like

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Speaker 5: to try to handicap the front offices, right and when

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Speaker 5: we go down the line, let's go to two Texans. Well,

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Speaker 5: new head coach, rebuilding team, probably not in a hurry

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Speaker 5: to get that quarterback and win, right now, That's why

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Speaker 5: I think the Texans if they don't get Bryce Young

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Speaker 5: if he does go one. That's why I think Houston

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Speaker 5: would be interested in a guy like Will Anderson because

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Speaker 5: you bring in.

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Speaker 1: A guy who can be the the man you like.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people, including people that I have source

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Speaker 5: connected to Houston, have him as the number one player

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Speaker 5: on their draft board period. So I think Houston is

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Speaker 5: kind of where this draft starts. And then the Cardinals

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Speaker 5: at three. We just saw the Buddha Baker news yesterday

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Speaker 5: and I think Buddha might have caught win that, well,

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Speaker 5: we're rebuilding and we don't really like where we're at

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Speaker 5: right now as a franchise, so we might be interested

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Speaker 5: in trading.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I think Arizona.

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Speaker 5: Could be the the explosive part of this draft, where

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Speaker 5: it goes Bryce Young won Will Anderson two, and then

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Speaker 5: at three the chaos starts because you've got CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud still available.

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Speaker 5: There's a team that might be interested in trading up

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Speaker 1: The NFL Draft is my favorite event to bet on. Guys.

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Speaker 5: The problem is the books get killed every year and

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Speaker 1: And you know what it was.

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Speaker 1: And it's the wild West general.

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Speaker 3: I love the random tip on Draft Day. I'll never

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Speaker 3: so the NBA playoff matchups are set. Playing is done,

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Speaker 3: Which team feel like the most? Huh, who's at the

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Speaker 3: top of your list to win it all? I'll go

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. I'm gonna go with the Milwaukee Bucks.

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Speaker 3: Who is your one team at the top of your list?

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Speaker 4: I love well, I don't know if I love them,

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Speaker 3: gold just yet because they've played better post All Star Break.

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot of Laker love, Shaker, but a

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Speaker 3: lot of people are picking the Lakers to beat the

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Speaker 3: Grizzlies in that two seven.

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Speaker 1: You can see that I could.

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Speaker 3: Possibly see that the jury Adam Grizzlies. Yeah, no Steven Adams,

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Speaker 3: no Brandon Clark. That's a big deal. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: seeing an extended run for the Lakers in this in

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Speaker 3: this postseason. Hey, there's a league that I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: And there's a player that I don't understand what he's

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Speaker 3: not doing. Someone who I always understand though, Isaac Loewenkron

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Speaker 3: with the latest is loa what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Especially this time. Good morning Fells, because coming up we

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Speaker 6: have our first ever food update just for you guys,

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Speaker 6: so stay tuned for that. But first of all, onto

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Speaker 6: the NBA. Friday night, the Minnesota Timberwolves capturing the eighth

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Speaker 6: seed in the Western Conference with a one twenty to

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Speaker 6: ninety five win over the Oklahoma City thunder Minnesota goes

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Speaker 6: to the playoffs. They will open up in one seed

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Speaker 6: Denver on Sunday night. In the Eastern Conference, Miami claimed

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Speaker 6: the eight seed with a one two to ninety one

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Speaker 6: win over the Chuga over the Chicago Bulls. They will

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Speaker 6: one seed in Milwaukee in Round one on Sunday. And

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Speaker 6: major League Baseball on Friday night, the Toronto Blue Jays

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Speaker 6: to be to the Tampa Bay Ray six to three

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Speaker 6: for the Ray's first loss of the season after they

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Speaker 6: started thirteen and oh. The Cubs Yon Gomes hit two

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Speaker 6: home runs and they're eight two win over the Dodgers

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Speaker 6: in Los Angeles. The Dodgers now just seven and seven

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Speaker 6: Seattle's Jared colnick homert for a fourth straight game as

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Speaker 6: the Mariners best of the Colorado Rockies five to three.

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Speaker 6: The Brewers Rowdy Tellez hit two home runs in Milwaukee's

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Speaker 6: eleven to two victory at San Diego, and the Mets

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Speaker 6: want at Oakland seventeen to six. Francisco Lindora Grand Slam

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Speaker 6: and seven RBI finally fellas on behalf of stomachs everywhere.

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Speaker 6: We would like to think. Fox Sports Radio Zone, Rich Ornberger,

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Speaker 6: they're introducing the world this week to Easter Pie. Listen

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Speaker 6: to this.

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Speaker 4: Easter pie is an Italian meat and cheese pie. My

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Speaker 4: grandma rose every single Easter. And here's what you're gonna need.

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Speaker 4: Persada Sweet Supersada, Pepperoni, General Solami, Moredo, Dell Mozzarella, Provolone photo.

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Speaker 4: All that's going in there.

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Speaker 6: Why did I think of that before? Makes so much sense?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, rich Sornberger.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you have the music there, very nice music,

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Speaker 3: celest soothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've become an amateur video editor, but an expert when

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Speaker 4: it comes to making delicious meat pies.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've been doing this for years.

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Speaker 1: Mike met Meornberger.

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Speaker 4: My grandma Rose used to make. It's a lot of

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Speaker 4: people call pizza rustica. Like you basically take every single

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Speaker 4: meat that you would stuff inside of an Italian ogi

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Speaker 4: and you throw it into a pie shell instead. You

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Speaker 4: cook it for about forty minutes and you're gonna have

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Speaker 4: a heart attack every slice. It's it's the most unhealthy

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Speaker 4: thing you've ever see. Yeah, thank you, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, And that's why it's so delicious.

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Speaker 3: That's how it works out right there, it's Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Rich Ornberger, Jared Smith,

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Speaker 3: Brian Know all with you here, and you know it's

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Speaker 3: it's a Saturday morning. You know you're sitting. I feel

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Speaker 3: like we're kind of like hanging out together, you know, positive,

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Speaker 3: And I got to be the jerk every now and

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Speaker 3: then to just be like, what is happening over here now? Jared,

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Speaker 3: you mentioned that Julius Randall of the Knicks, he's eyeing

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Speaker 3: a return today. He had this nasty ankle sprain, but

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Speaker 3: he probably will be in the lineup today against the Cavs,

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Speaker 3: and salute to him. And it just makes me think

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Speaker 3: of man if Zion Williamson had the same kind of

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Speaker 3: guts to play out there that would be a good thing.

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Speaker 3: I love Zion the player. But when he said before

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Speaker 3: the play in stage where he talked about physically thumbs up,

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Speaker 3: feeling like Zion, that thumbs down, listen to what he said.

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Speaker 7: I mean physically, I'm fine. Now, it's just a matter

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Speaker 7: of when I feel like Zion. You know, I know

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Speaker 7: the atmosphere i'd be in here based off like the

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Speaker 7: playoff experience. So when I feel like.

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Speaker 3: Zion, when I feel like Zion, just a matter of

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Speaker 3: when I feel like Big Z and I can go

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 2: Are you serious?

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Speaker 3: That dude is so soft it's not even a joke.

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Speaker 3: It's not even funny how soft he is. Because this

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Speaker 3: he had a hamstring injury in early January, he had

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Speaker 3: a setback in February. He didn't play the rest of

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Speaker 3: the season, was cleared in his own words, physically, I'm fine.

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Speaker 2: It's just feeling like Zion here.

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Speaker 3: What is that? That is such a joke. And you

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Speaker 3: see this Julius Randall coming back from a nasty ankle injury,

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Speaker 3: Andrew Wiggins coming back with the Warriors after dealing with

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Speaker 3: a family issue. I just think that not all injuries

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Speaker 3: are created equal. I get that, and I know that

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Speaker 3: you have to be right mentally, whether it's you're getting

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Speaker 3: over an injury or it's something outside of basketball that

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Speaker 3: you have to get over. I understand that I'll cut

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Speaker 3: you some slack, but when you baby yourself to a

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Speaker 3: fault like zion Is, I can't cut your slack for that.

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Speaker 3: You give me no outs when it comes to something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 4: I get that, I really do. I mean, we're living

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Speaker 4: in a time though, where mental health is being discussed

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Speaker 4: a lot, and I think the tangent effects of that are,

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Speaker 4: you know, especially in the NBA, a sport where I

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Speaker 4: think they they're kind of a little bit ahead of

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Speaker 4: the curve because it is such a player ram league

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Speaker 4: in a lot of the things that benefit player health

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Speaker 4: and safety, like you know, the changes to the schedule

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Speaker 4: to accommodate players requests have left less back to backs,

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Speaker 4: especially after coming off the road, or you know, a

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Speaker 4: situation where you're you're mentality is taken as uh taken

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Speaker 4: into consideration as much as your physicality. Like in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: this stuff just doesn't fly. Like a guy can't go

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Speaker 4: to his offensive line coach and be like, hey, coach,

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Speaker 4: you know the knees one hundred percent. But you know,

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Speaker 4: I just don't feel like Hornberger today. I just like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you would I say that the Belichick, Yeah, like,

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Speaker 4: I mean you would just get cut, you know, you would,

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Speaker 4: you would, you would be put up for trade. It's

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Speaker 4: just it wouldn't fly. But the NBA, again, it's just

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Speaker 4: a different type of league there. They take they take

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Speaker 4: things that other leagues would not take as seriously, very seriously.

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Speaker 4: And so as as much as you want to blame Zion,

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Speaker 4: I kind of fall into the category of don't hate

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Speaker 4: the player, hate the game. Because this is the new NBA. Man,

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Speaker 4: get used to it. You're gonna see guys probably on

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Speaker 4: the you know, on the injury list with anxiety and

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Speaker 4: with the you know, maybe emotional trauma from because their

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Speaker 4: hamster passed away overnight. You know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 4: this is the new NBA. These guys that they they

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Speaker 4: will take their time with every little thing. And I

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Speaker 4: think mainly it's because there's a revolt against how many

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Speaker 4: games are being played in this league. Eighty two by

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Speaker 4: every metric, feels like it's too many. They're kind of superfluous.

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Speaker 1: A lot of.

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Speaker 4: Teams get into the postseason and seeding doesn't really matter

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Speaker 4: as much when you play as long a series as

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Speaker 4: you do in the NBA playoffs. So these guys don't

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Speaker 4: really care about the regular season or the play in

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Speaker 4: for that matter. So this is where we're at in

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Speaker 4: the culture right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you on the regular season, but this

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Speaker 5: was a postseason game. That's what makes this even more

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Speaker 5: kind of And I'll take it a step further. On

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Speaker 5: the NFL side, I think Rich you can absolutely speak

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Speaker 5: to it, and I think you kind of nailed it.

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Speaker 5: Like if you said that to Bill Belichick, I don't

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Speaker 5: think you would have a job the next day. And

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Speaker 5: I'll even take it a step further. Imagine because these

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Speaker 5: two sports, to me are aligned. Imagine a hockey player

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Speaker 5: said this before an NHL postseason game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 5: Point would be people would revolt, Like imagine like the

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Speaker 5: Montreal Canadians best player said, I don't really feel like

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Speaker 5: myself today, so I'm just not gonna play in game

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Speaker 5: one of this postseason series.

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Speaker 1: I just it's it.

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Speaker 5: I don't I can't fathom it actually happening. And I

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Speaker 5: actually have a story from twenty fifteen, the Rangers in

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Speaker 5: the in the Eastern Conference, finals Ryan McDonough played with

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Speaker 5: a broken foot like the entire series, and in hockey,

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Speaker 5: I would imagine you need your feet to skate pretty much.

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Speaker 5: So it's just I can't fathom this happening in a

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Speaker 5: postseason game. It was a regular season Zion, go take

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Speaker 5: as much time to feel like yourself as you need,

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Speaker 5: but the whole reason.

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Speaker 1: And the Pelicans haven't.

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Speaker 5: It's not like they've had a ton of postseason success

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Speaker 5: where they have all this great experience to you know,

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Speaker 5: fall back on, like Zion is the guy, and oh man,

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Speaker 5: I just it wasn't a good look for him, the

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Speaker 5: way he phrased it, the way he said it, the

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Speaker 5: timing of it, And I think the overall culture that

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Speaker 5: we're in might be a little more accepting to it,

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Speaker 5: but we're kind of going down a dangerous path here.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 5: If players at his star caliber can just kind of

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Speaker 5: put one of these comments out into the atmosphere and say, yep,

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Speaker 5: I'm not really feeling like myself today, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: take this one out.

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Speaker 1: And good luck, guys, see you next year.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that to me is it's really difficult. It is,

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Speaker 3: if I'm being fully honest of knowing when to say, hey, okay,

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Speaker 3: take your time, and when to give someone a boost

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Speaker 3: slash a shove of like yeah, get out there.

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Speaker 2: Zion Williamson.

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Speaker 3: This isn't like, you know, family member died or there's

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Speaker 3: some serious trauma he's dealing with or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Like in those situations, fine, I get it. But when

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Speaker 3: you're babying an injury he's going out there and doing

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Speaker 3: a three sixty dunk in pregame warmups and not playing, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's like, what the hell is that? Like, not all

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Speaker 3: things are created equal, and I do absolutely believe in

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Speaker 3: certain situations it's not okay as an organization to say, okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, we're not going to push you. If you

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Speaker 3: think that's what's best. It's like, bro, get over it.

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Speaker 3: Your team needs you. You're cleared to play, go freaking play.

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Speaker 3: And you're not hearing that a lot in today's NBA

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Speaker 3: and certain sports where it's okay to just take this

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Speaker 3: hands off approach. I don't agree with that every single time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that the NBA, the pendulum

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Speaker 4: has swung too far in the balance of the players.

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Speaker 4: You know, you just you have a disruption in the

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Speaker 4: force in the NBA, and this is what it looks

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Speaker 4: like when it happens. And frankly, I feel that way

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Speaker 4: about the NFL in terms of to the ownership side.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think it's unfortunate that there's there isn't

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Speaker 4: more now that's that's closer. I think that the the

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Speaker 4: NFL players and the owners are closer to a perfect balance.

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Speaker 4: And maybe maybe it's never going to be a perfect balance,

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Speaker 4: so maybe that's as close as we're ever gonna get.

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Speaker 4: But the the when the pendulum swings too far to

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Speaker 4: one side. And in the NBA, the players have a

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Speaker 4: lot of power now both negotiating for new cbas but

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Speaker 4: also in season like they can make significant changes to

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Speaker 4: that league. I mean, players have basically forced out two

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Speaker 4: get situations like this. And guess what, Zion's gonna get

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Speaker 4: a lot of support from from his NBA brethren. Now

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Speaker 4: if if one day, like a real big time star

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Speaker 4: then that gets support. Well, then you'll see a big shift.

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Speaker 4: Then you'll see then you'll see a lot more people

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Speaker 4: get you know, there'll be a headwind pushing in a

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Speaker 4: different direction. But right now you know where Zion gets

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Speaker 4: the most respect and support. It's not from the fans.

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Speaker 4: It's certainly not from the fans. It's definitely not from

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Speaker 4: the owners because imagine being an owner. You got to

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Speaker 4: be shaking in your boots. You're paying tens of millions

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Speaker 4: of dollars to a guy who says, physically, I'm one

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Speaker 4: playoff game because I don't feel like myself. It's it's

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Speaker 4: the players who are supporting him and and they have

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Speaker 4: his back, and so he feels like he's untouchable. And

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Speaker 4: that's a problem. It's a problem for the product. And

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Speaker 4: at the end of the day, when you're an NBA, NFL, NHL,

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, the Reign of Terror is almost over, mercifully.

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Speaker 2: Slash Match. The Reign of Terror.

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Speaker 3: Is almost over. Washington Commander's team owner Dan Snyder. He's

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Speaker 3: got a deal in place with Josh Harris, also Magic

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Speaker 3: Johnson in this investment group, if you will, an NFL

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Speaker 3: record price of six point zero five billion dollars. Dan

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Speaker 3: Snyder has the deal in place to sell the franchise

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Speaker 3: and has it gone through yet pending, you know, got

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Speaker 3: to get a couple of thumbs up from the other

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Speaker 3: team owners and all of that. But after what twenty

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Speaker 3: four years of a lack of success there with the

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Speaker 3: Washington Commanders, wants a very proud franchise. But he took

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Speaker 3: over in nineteen ninety nine and it has been slim

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Speaker 3: pickens in terms of successful seasons. So it's almost over,

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Speaker 3: and I think Commanders fans are rejoicing, maybe doing cartwheels

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Speaker 3: shirtless in the streets with Daniel Snyder no longer being

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Speaker 3: the team owner there in short order.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Twitter was a celebration when this news

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Speaker 4: got announced late this week. I'll say this, any business

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Speaker 4: that has bad ownership is a business that's destined to

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Speaker 4: be a failure. That it all starts at the top,

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Speaker 4: and I understand that a lot of times, especially in sports,

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Speaker 4: owners are probably given too little credit and then probably

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Speaker 4: take too much blame depending on which direction the franchise

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Speaker 4: is heading in. Like we'll look at the Patriots over

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Speaker 4: the past two decades, AIDS and Robert Kraft probably doesn't

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Speaker 4: receive as much credit as he deserves for the Patriots

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Speaker 4: having as much success as they've had because they've had

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Speaker 4: the likes of Tom Brady, inarguably the greatest player of

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Speaker 4: all time, and then Bill Belichick, who you can make

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Speaker 4: a strong argument, if not the greatest coach of all

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Speaker 4: time inside that franchise franchise for most of that run.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think he has a lot to do

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Speaker 4: getting the hell out of the way, or he was

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Speaker 4: an essential and talent evaluation when he put some of

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Speaker 4: the figureheads in place to have the rain that they've had,

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Speaker 4: And the same could be true in the opposite direction,

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Speaker 4: like it was in Washington for Dan Snyder's rain.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you get a guy that bought the franchise

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Speaker 5: for eight hundred million dollars ran right, just completely runs

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Speaker 5: the team. I don't want to say into the ground,

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Speaker 5: but obviously a lot of issues with how he's run

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Speaker 5: the team. You know, he's being indicted or investigated for crime, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 5: The stadium is a mess, and then he sells the

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Speaker 5: team for six billion and.

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Speaker 1: Makes and makes money handover fist. Is that America in

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Speaker 1: a nutshell or what? Guys? And it's sad, but I'm

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Speaker 1: it's actually funny.

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Speaker 5: I went to high school in the Northern Virginia area,

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Speaker 5: so I have a lot of friends that are you know,

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Speaker 5: Washington fans, and they are rejoicing. It is like it's

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Speaker 5: like Christmas in New Year's all rolled into one with

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Speaker 5: this story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it.

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Speaker 3: And uh man, it's interesting too though when you think

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Speaker 3: about you know, stability at the top when you come

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Speaker 3: to when you're talking about strong ownership, and certainly that

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Speaker 3: matters a ton, But there are some really stable franchises

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Speaker 3: who no longer have a franchise quarterback and Patriots and

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Speaker 3: you see that as well, So I agree, I'm not disagreeing.

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Speaker 3: Where you have to have solid ownership. You can't have

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Speaker 3: a meddling team owner. And there are many ways where

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Speaker 3: it can go sideways. But you can have all that stability,

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Speaker 3: but if you don't have leadership at the top of

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Speaker 3: the roster, meaning a franchise quarterback, that can topple your

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Speaker 3: operation as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean you need to have well, let's

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Speaker 4: put it this way. You need to have a lot

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Speaker 4: of recipe, a lot of ingredients to make the recipe work.

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Speaker 4: Ownership is one of them.

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Speaker 3: No doubt. All right, come it up next. You might

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Speaker 3: totals for all thirty two NFL teams, and there are

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Speaker 3: a lot of different directions to go here. A couple

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Speaker 3: of things that catch my eye. The three teams at

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Speaker 3: the top the most wins. As far as a win

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Speaker 3: total goes, we're setting it at eleven and a half. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So that's the number for the forty nine Ers, the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: and the Chiefs. So if you think they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: at least twelve wins or you take the over. If

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Speaker 3: you think that they're not going to have more than eleven,

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Speaker 3: you take the under. I think that the Niners are

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Speaker 3: a really interesting team to pinpoint, because we know how

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Speaker 3: talented their roster is, but they don't have a franchise

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Speaker 3: quarterback that we know of for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yet no people.

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Speaker 3: Were drooling over Brock Purty and it was perty palooza

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Speaker 3: last season. I prove that he's a franchise quarterback. We

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Speaker 3: don't even know if he's going to be the Week

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Speaker 3: one starter. So with Purty Trey Lance, stuff to sort

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Speaker 3: out with the quarterback position. So that's a really really

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Speaker 3: interesting team to me. And I go back and forth

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Speaker 3: with if they're going to get to twelve wins or not.

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Speaker 3: I think that the division can be tougher. I think

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Speaker 3: the Rams are going to be better. I don't think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have nearly as many injury issues as they

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Speaker 3: did last season, so that's something and keep your eye on.

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Speaker 3: But the Niners, we know their strengths and we also

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Speaker 3: know their weak spots, so I think it could swing

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Speaker 3: other way.

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Speaker 2: How about you, guys, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Agree with the assessment on the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: Like you said, then the Bengals, the Chiefs all slotted

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Speaker 4: at eleven and a half right now, Philadelphia, Eagles, Buffalo,

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Speaker 4: and Jacksonville at ten and a half. Jacksonville feels a

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Speaker 4: little high at and a half. And then San Francisco

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Speaker 4: definitely feels too high. And you know, if you take

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Speaker 4: the over well wins without I mean, the one thing

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Speaker 4: you can say that the other five teams I just

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Speaker 4: mentioned have in common Burrow, Mahomes, Hurts, Alan Lawrence, Like

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Speaker 4: those are all franchise quarterbacks. San Francisco does not have

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Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback right now. I'm not saying that Trey

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Speaker 4: Lance won't be one day. My guess is probably not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying perty won't be one day. My guess

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Speaker 4: is probably not.

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Speaker 2: I'll say you won't be.

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Speaker 4: But but you know, I mean, we've got half a

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Speaker 4: season of intel on Purdy and I wasn't sold last year.

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Speaker 4: I definitely would need to see him do it for

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Speaker 4: a full season, plus the full a full postseason before

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to buy that dream. Yeah, so I agree

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Speaker 4: with you. I think San Francis is too high. The

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Speaker 4: team that I all of a sudden have my eyes

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Speaker 4: on is Dallas. Like I could easily see Dallas being

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Speaker 4: a double digit win team.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and they're at nine and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting one.

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Speaker 5: So the one thing I like to do when I

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Speaker 5: get these it is it is kind of like Christmas

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Speaker 5: morning when I start looking at these, because I think

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Speaker 5: the win total market in terms of the long term

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Speaker 5: NFL futures, is probably my favorite pool to swim in.

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Speaker 5: I think the Super Bowl odds they look really sexy

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Speaker 5: twenty thirty forty to one on one of these teams,

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Speaker 5: but it's really hard to actually win one of those bets.

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Speaker 5: Whereas these bets, it gets you invested in every game individually.

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Speaker 5: And when you bet on a higher end team like

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati or Kansas City, well they're favored in most of

869
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 5: their games and they have to cover the spread in

870
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: order for you to win that one week bet, Whereas

871
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 5: in this particular case, you can place a wager on

872
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 5: the Bengals to win over eleven and a half games,

873
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: and you can just root for the Bengals to win

874
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: every week. You don't care what the final score is.

875
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 5: Just win the game, Joe Burrow. And that's why I

876
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 5: think these bets are intriguing to me from a long

877
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 5: term investment perspective. Now, actually, team by team, it's interesting

878
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 5: when you get the win totals to kind of can

879
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: jeal them all together by division and you can kind

880
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: of get a sense for how Vegas feels each division

881
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: will shake out this year. And it's interesting to see

882
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 5: how far the NFC South has fallen because Tampa Bay

883
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: is just completely dropped off the map, one of the

884
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 5: lowest teams on the board now. And then you can

885
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 5: kind of compare that to who each division faces in

886
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 5: their cross division rivalries, and again you can get your

887
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: you know, make yourself go insane here with some of

888
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: the permutations that you can find. But it is really

889
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: fun to throw their schedule up. And we don't have

890
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 5: the full sequence of the schedule yet, but we know

891
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 5: who each team plays and they say WHOA, Well, that's

892
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 5: an interesting matchup there. And this division, this really strong division,

893
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 5: plays this really weak division this year. So maybe we

894
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 5: want to, you know, bump up some of those teams.

895
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 5: But I keep looking at my Jets and thinking to myself,

896
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 5: how are they going to screw up this Aaron Rodgers deal?

897
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 5: And how far is that win total gonna fall if

898
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: they do screw up that Aaron Rodgers deal.

899
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: And they're sitting at nine and a half right now.

900
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 5: They only won seven games last year, and I know

901
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 5: their roster is stacked, but you've got the Jets on

902
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 5: the same level as teams like the Chargers and the

903
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 5: Cowboys and the Lions who have all this momentum and

904
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: they also have the quarterback ready to go. I just

905
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 5: really find it a struggle to bet on a Jets

906
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 5: team to win ten games next year to be a

907
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: double dig In order for you to win that bet

908
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 5: nine and a half, they have to be a double

909
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 5: digit win team, which means they would go from seven

910
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 5: wins last year to ten wins this year. That's a

911
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 5: pretty big jump. Now, do know if they get Aaron Rodgers,

912
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: there's gonna be a lot of buzz and excitement. In fact,

913
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 5: I could see that number going up to even ten

914
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: or ten and a half if they do end up

915
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 5: finalizing the deal. And unfortunately, as a Jets fan, I'm

916
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 5: conditioned to not have nice things, so I can't see

917
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 5: us really being a ten to eleven win team.

918
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: But stranger things have happened. Right now.

919
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: Well, I like how some of these teams are grouped together. Yeah, well,

920
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: I'll just take the nine and a half community, right,

921
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: Like all these teams their season win total is nine

922
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: and a half. So just think about this as I

923
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: slowly mention these teams, and you're probably gonna feel much

924
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: differently from team to team. You know, they're all grouped

925
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: at nine and a half everyone Cowboys, Lions, Saints, Browns, Chargers, Dolphins, Jets.

926
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 3: All of those teams are at nine and a half

927
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 3: their season win total, which I find fascinating. You play

928
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: that game with the eight and a half and the

929
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: seven and a half community, but the nine and a

930
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 3: half is what really stands out to me. Something else

931
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: to keep in mind, there's so much turnover from year

932
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: to year in the NFL routinely, so.

933
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: A lot of these teams.

934
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 3: When I rattled off those where you're thinking, man, Cowboys

935
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: are at nine and a half, that seems lower, Man

936
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: Browns at nine and a half, that seems high, And

937
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: you might end up being right. But you got to

938
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: think about the schedule coming into play here where don't

939
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: forget the Browns they play a last place schedule. So

940
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: there are three games that you that differentiate themselves from

941
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: the other teams in your division. Okay, your last play schedule.

942
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 3: So the Browns they pick up, the Bears, the Jets,

943
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: the Broncos. Okay, like think about the Jets, they faced

944
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: their last play schedule, Falcons, Texans, Browns. It's a good point, right,

945
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: so that when you have favorable matchups in two or

946
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: three games playing a last play schedule, that could get

947
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: you to your season win total over right.

948
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 4: There, Yeah, it could, it could. Although I will say

949
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: this that is the exact team in that nine and

950
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 4: a half column that really stuck out like a sore

951
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: thumb is Cleveland because what has that franchise shown me

952
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: since the run to the postseason with Baker Mayfield and

953
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 4: even then, I can't say I really trusted the Browns,

954
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 4: Like it sort of felt like, you know, they're winning

955
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 4: a lot of close games, like really close games. I

956
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 4: know there's a lot of close games in the NFL,

957
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 4: and it sort of felt like every week it was

958
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: it was something else that was either hampering them or

959
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: helping them, you know. I Since then, I mean, the

960
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 4: Browns have been kind of a complete disaster. I don't

961
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 4: even want to qualify with kinda They've been a complete disaster.

962
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 4: And Deshaun Watson last year was not good. I mean,

963
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: for all the money that they've guaranteed him and all

964
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: the help they gave him in guaranteeing that money, meaning

965
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: last season, even with the suspension, he missed out on

966
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: you know, infinitesimal some of money compared to how much

967
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: money he'll earn the rest of his contract fully guaranteed.

968
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he turned in a pretty pedestrian performance. And

969
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: that's not just compared to his usual talents, that's compared

970
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: to the entirety of the NFL starting quarterbacks like Brock

971
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 4: Purdy was magnitudes better at the quarterback position than somebody

972
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 4: who is guaranteed two hundred and thirty million dollars to

973
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: play quarterback in this league. That's an embarrassment, that's an indictment.

974
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 4: The Cleveland Browns are not good until Deshaun Watson proves

975
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: that he's good. And I don't know if the proof

976
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: is I don't know if the proof is there yet.

977
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 4: I may maybe this offseason everything will change. I have

978
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 4: sincere doubts about that.

979
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 5: See, this is why the division stuff really makes sense

980
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 5: to me in terms of handicapping the divisions, because Rich

981
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 5: thinks Cleveland has weakness, so they're nine and a half,

982
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 5: should maybe be eight and a half Baltimore Lamar Jackson,

983
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 5: I mean, what's gonna happen there? Cincinnati's a really good team.

984
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 5: Obviously we're not taking anything away there, But who's the

985
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 5: fourth team in this division who's sitting on the eight

986
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 5: and a half line, who is about as consistent as

987
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 5: a few good men on a rainy Sunday, right, Like

988
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers at eight and a half. They were

989
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 5: nine wins last year with the Kenny Pickett Trubisky situation,

990
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 5: and you know one or the other, and I think

991
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: it's Pickett now.

992
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: And that's an interesting team to the over.

993
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 5: Again, I think when you handicap the division as a whole,

994
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 5: if we feel Cleveland has weakness, if we feel Baltimore

995
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 5: has uncertainty at quarterback, well, maybe other than Cincinnati, who

996
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 5: is a tough bet to the over with the highest

997
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 5: win total on the board, maybe we look to Pittsburgh

998
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 5: at eight and a half and say, maybe eight nine

999
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 5: wins is a very realistic season for them, And that's

1000
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 5: a pretty solid safe wager to make to park Our

1001
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: cash for the next six months until the season finally starts,

1002
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 5: because I don't see a lot of volatility with that franchise,

1003
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 5: right guys. I mean, Pittsburgh about a steady eddie as

1004
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 5: it gets, despite a lot of situation at quarterback over

1005
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 5: the last.

1006
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: Couple of years.

1007
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: But I think they like their guy Kenny Pickett, and

1008
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of other positive things with

1009
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: that Steelers franchise. And maybe it's the division handicap with

1010
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 5: the North that brings us to the Steelers.

1011
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: You know.

1012
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: What I also think is interesting is looking at the

1013
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: Houston Texans in the basement. They're also there with the

1014
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. So both teams are at five and a

1015
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: half wins. And with the Texans, ask yourself this, if

1016
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: you've got the Texans under five and a half for

1017
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: their season win total, is it better for you? It's

1018
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: an honest question. Is it better for you to have

1019
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 3: Davis Mills in year three as the starter? Or if

1020
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: the Texans go with the rookie quarterbacks, say it's c J.

1021
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 3: Stroud as the number two overall pick. Now again, c J.

1022
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: Stroud would be a Daisy fresh rookie.

1023
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: I think c J.

1024
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: Stroud will eventually be better than Davis Mills. It's not

1025
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 3: like old d Mills has set the bar incredibly high,

1026
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: but year three Davis Mills compared to Daisy fresh rookie.

1027
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 3: We saw this a couple of years ago. Remember when

1028
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: it was Trevor Lawrence was the first overall pick twelve touchdown,

1029
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 3: seventeen picks. I know he had Urban Meyer, but horrible

1030
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: rookie season. Justin Field's horrible, Zach Willson horrible, Verboy horrible,

1031
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 3: pretty much except Mac Jones. The point is, there are

1032
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: a lot of rookie quarterbacks who struggle. So I think

1033
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 3: if you just said, hey, let's go with the Texans here,

1034
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: we'll take the under thinking they're going to have a

1035
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, and then all of a sudden they don't.

1036
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: They go with Will Anderson Junior or somebody else, and

1037
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: they run it back with Davis Mills. That can greatly

1038
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: affect the season win total odds. Yeah.

1039
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Whenever you're looking at what quarterback could potentially land

1040
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 4: with the team in the draft, the one major caveat

1041
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: is if you bring in a true dual threat quarterback

1042
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 4: and you have an offensive coordinator who's committed to using

1043
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 4: that quarterback that way, it's like vitamin C to an

1044
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: offense sometimes, you know where you know the RG three

1045
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: effect in Washington, or or you know, look at Lamar

1046
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 4: Jackson with the Ravens when he finally got his chance

1047
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: with Baltimore when he was sitting behind Flacco. You know,

1048
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 4: enter a guy who can spark some sensational plays with

1049
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 4: his legs, and it gives a franchise a real opportunity

1050
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: to get out of the duldrums pretty quick. So that

1051
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: that is something to focus on, is who exactly Houston

1052
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 4: gets at second overall, If they get a true dual

1053
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: threat quarterback, If that's who lands with this franchise, that

1054
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: win total may may look artificially low. Yeah. And again,

1055
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: going back to what you said about Davis Mills, is

1056
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: he the worst quarterback in the league. I mean, he's

1057
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 4: in the conversation every year, But I mean, can you

1058
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 4: build can you build a better team around a guy

1059
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 4: who's you know, getting sturdier in his performances year after

1060
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 4: year and then have him be a placeholder for a

1061
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: better quarterback and then maybe give that quarterback a little

1062
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: time and then have his entrance i don't know, mid season,

1063
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: like a Kenny Pickett situation with Trubisky being the starter. Yeah,

1064
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 4: and can you rattle off nine wins? Absolutely? I'm very

1065
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 4: curious about, you know where these numbers, how these numbers

1066
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 4: change after the draft, because I bet there'll be some

1067
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 4: substantial change in the wind totals come May.

1068
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 5: I'll give you an example. Last year was the Jets.

1069
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 5: They had a good draft, right, and I was in

1070
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 5: on their win total last year. It was at five

1071
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 5: and a half before this, and right, I mean think

1072
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 5: about the difference. Right last year, the Jets win total

1073
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 5: heading into the season before the draft was five and

1074
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 5: a half.

1075
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: Now it's nine and a half.

1076
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 5: But they had the great draft, and was I thought

1077
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 5: to myself, Man, this is weird. The Jets are actually

1078
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 5: getting really good publicity for something they did. Right in

1079
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 5: the draft, their win total is going to increase because

1080
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 5: it's a big market team. They got a lot of

1081
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 5: positive pub and it was a lower win total and

1082
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 5: it closed when the season started at six and a half.

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00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 5: I actually came back on the under six and a half.

1084
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 5: I tried to middle it at six. It was one

1085
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 5: win away from it. But again, it kind of speaks

1086
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 5: to Rich's point. You're right, Rich, the draft is to me,

1087
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 5: I will watch these markets very heavily on draft night

1088
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 5: because you will start to see a little more menum

1089
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 5: if something insane happens that really shakes up the draft,

1090
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 5: or just a team just absolutely crushes it and they're

1091
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 5: getting all this positive publicity from Chefter and rapport and

1092
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 5: the whole bunch. That's when you'll start to see these

1093
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 5: numbers move a little bit. But I feel really good

1094
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 5: about the Texans not taking a quarterback with their second pick.

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00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 5: I really do think if I now, granted to be fair,

1096
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 5: this is what I would do if I was Demiko

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 5: Ryans and the whole brain trust there because of the

1098
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 5: Davis Mills factor, because you feel comfortable with him, and

1099
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 5: because the sense of urgency for a new regime to

1100
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 5: win next year is not as strong. And then in

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00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four you mentioned the quarterbacks that could be

1102
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 5: available to me, it makes more sense to draft the

1103
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 5: best player on your board at two, assuming Bryce Young

1104
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 5: is gone, and then you kind of move on from there.

1105
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 5: So the Texans number and the teams lower on the

1106
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 5: board always are interesting to me because sometimes it's easier

1107
00:56:58,280 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 5: to pick who the bad teams are going to be

1108
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 5: than it is the peak of the good teams are

1109
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 5: gonna be. So I'll be watching the Tampa Bay, the Indies,

1110
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 5: the Arizona's, the Houstons because you just don't know what

1111
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 5: they're gonna do in the draft and what the mindset

1112
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 5: is of these teams they win now Tampa Bay, probably

1113
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 5: not Arizona. Maybe GM on the hot seat a little

1114
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 5: bit Indy maybe you know, you get the.

1115
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: New regime in there too.

1116
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 5: And with Houston obviously the head coach, I think they

1117
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 5: have a little more relaxing vibe to their season because

1118
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a big urgency to win now

1119
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 5: with the Miko Rans in his first year.

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Speaker 3: All right, we've got Jared Smith, Fox Sports Radio, betting analyst,

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00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: Rich Ornberger, Penn State, All American. I'm Brian No coming

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00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: up next. Zero assurances in one department, but many assurances

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Speaker 3: and another.

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Speaker 2: That's on the way.

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Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Progressive dot Com. So Odell Beckham Junior. He's officially a

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00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: Baltimore Raven and his introductory press conference was Thursday and

1133
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: he talked about Lamar Jackson.

1134
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:23,959
Speaker 2: Here's what OBJ had to say.

1135
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: Obviously, I would assume that it's going to work out.

1136
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1137
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: I have that faith and that hope, and Lamar, I

1138
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 4: know if you're.

1139
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 7: Watch it, you know, and I would love to love

1140
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 7: to get to work with you.

1141
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: Uh okay, all right, so let's recap it over here.

1142
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 3: We understand the situation. Odell Beckham Junior signs a big

1143
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: contract with the Ravens one year, up to eighteen million dollars.

1144
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 3: He's got almost fourteen million of that guaranteed, but zero

1145
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: assurance is that Lamar Jackson will be the quarterback. And

1146
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: he's waving to the camera like, hey, Lamar, hopefully team

1147
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: it up with you.

1148
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: I kind of screwed if you're not here, Like man,

1149
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: the assurances.

1150
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: It was the cash, but the assurances as far as

1151
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson goes, it's not there.

1152
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: I just think this.

1153
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: I don't understand the move, especially from Odell Beckham Junior's standpoint.

1154
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: You don't even know if Lamar is going to be

1155
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: your quarterback.

1156
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: And even if Lamar is, he's been banged up each

1157
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: of the last two years. He very well might be

1158
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: banged up this year as well. And this is a

1159
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 3: prove it deal, it's a one year deal. I think

1160
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 3: it makes a lot more sense to go to the

1161
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: Jets team up with Aaron Rodgers just a matter of

1162
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: time until he's the Jets quarterback.

1163
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I think that you're.

1164
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: Statistically in a better spot as wide receiver number two

1165
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: opposite Garrett Wilson than wide receiver number one in Baltimore.

1166
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: I think that you're probably costing yourself some money in

1167
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: the long run going to Baltimore with no assurances as

1168
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: far as who the QB is compared to going to

1169
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 3: in New York. Not making as much money in twenty

1170
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: twenty three, but you set yourself up for more money

1171
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: going forward.

1172
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Speaker 2: That's how I see it.

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 4: I see that argument, and I'll just factor in age

1174
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 4: a little bit here, like this is a lot of

1175
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 4: money at thirty years old coming off in ACL and

1176
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: I agree with your assessment one hundred percent, Brian, But

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 4: I will throw into the mix that you know, when

1178
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 4: you're thirty and you're coming off a knee. There there

1179
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 4: may even be some doubt with Odell Beckham Junior that

1180
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 4: there's going to be a next year and a year

1181
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 4: after that. You know what happens if he goes out

1182
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 4: there and just frankly, the knees not right and he

1183
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: can't make it through a full seventeen and this is

1184
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 4: the last major payday, you know. To support your argument,

1185
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: he didn't want to be in Baltimore because he gave

1186
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 4: the Jets the final say yeah. He literally had his

1187
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 4: agent call up the Jets and say, okay, Baltimore for

1188
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 4: eighteen mill, going once, Baltimore for at bill going twice.

1189
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: Baltimore sold looks like I'm a raven. You know. He

1190
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 4: literally wanted the Jets to counter with a with an

1191
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 4: amount that would move him to go play for the

1192
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 4: Jets instead, and they didn't come up with it. There

1193
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 4: was also the the dalliance with back with the New

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01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 4: York Giants. Clearly he wanted to be in a bigger market.

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01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 4: Clearly he wanted to be in a situation with a

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01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: quarterback that he trusts more than Lamar Jackson. But the

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Speaker 4: money talks at the end of the day, when you're

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Speaker 4: thirty and you're coming off a knee, And that's the

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Speaker 4: real reason why I think he made the decision.

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Speaker 5: He made yeah, and he gets all these incentives in

1201
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 5: the deal too, so you get the fifteen million guaranteed,

1202
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 5: plus an extra three million in incentives receiving yards and touchdowns,

1203
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 5: et cetera. I don't get into the details of it,

1204
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 5: but the amount of money that they offered him was

1205
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 5: was elite, about the most you could possibly expect for

1206
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 5: a guy in his situation. But let's do And by

1207
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 5: the way, I need a Rich Hornberger auctioneer to spin

1208
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 5: off show, because I think that would be I was

1209
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: very entertained by that. But going back to the draft

1210
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 5: and the poker discussion and reading the tea leaves of

1211
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 5: when these guys do come out and speak, I was

1212
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 5: so I messaged you guys this a couple of weeks ago.

1213
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 5: I think Lamar Jackson is getting traded. I've heard he's

1214
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 5: getting traded. I've heard the Colts maybe are the team.

1215
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 5: And then the Odell news happened, and I'm trying to

1216
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 5: think to myself, does this make the possible trade for

1217
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson more or less enticing? And then I'm thinking

1218
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 5: to myself, well, if they had all this money wire

1219
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 5: and then given it to Lamar. Then I watched the

1220
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 5: interview and Odell is basically begging Lamar to stay. And

1221
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 5: then I got to the conclusion, Well, I still think

1222
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson's getting traded, and it's just it's so bizarre

1223
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 5: to see these guys come out. And I'll be honest,

1224
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 5: if Da Costa and the rest the Ravens, you know organization,

1225
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 5: watched that interview, they probably watched it back.

1226
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean they were there, you know, next to them.

1227
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 5: If they watched it back, they probably didn't really love

1228
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 5: how Odell phrased it. And I don't know if they

1229
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 5: said something to him afterwards. But there's been a lot

1230
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 5: of awkwardness with getting asked questions about the Lamar Jackson situation.

1231
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 5: I saw an interview with Harball a couple weeks ago

1232
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 5: where one of the Baltimore reporters asked him a question

1233
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,959
Speaker 5: and the media guy cut him off right away. It's

1234
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 5: very tense right now, and it's a very awkward situation

1235
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 5: because Lamar and he went to the party with Odell

1236
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 5: that night, and he looked miserable, like it is very

1237
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 5: strange for you to bring in a guy like Odell

1238
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,959
Speaker 5: Beckham at the price you brought him in at while

1239
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 5: you're still trying to get your franchise MVP quarterback happy

1240
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 5: with the amount he's getting paid. It is a very

1241
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 5: unique situation, and I don't think you know, the end

1242
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 5: result is, I don't think the Odell signing makes the

1243
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 5: Ravens more inclined to give Lamar this money, even though

1244
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 5: maybe on the surface it does, because all the intangibles

1245
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 5: kind of point me to yeah, I think Lamar is

1246
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 5: still kind of on the outs in Baltimore.

1247
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: Well.

1248
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 3: And it also shows you know the cost of not

1249
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: getting it right in the draft, and you see some

1250
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: teams have to correct their draft mistakes by overpaying for

1251
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: the same position. That's exactly what the Ravens have just done.

1252
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 3: When you rewind back to the combine, remember when the

1253
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 3: GM Eric DaCosta was asked about drafting wide receivers and

1254
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 3: what's going on over there, and he said, if I

1255
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: had an answer, that would probably mean I would have

1256
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: some better receivers.

1257
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep swinging.

1258
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: And then the.

1259
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: Ravens wide receiver Shot Bateman. He took to Twitter and

1260
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: my roasted GM.

1261
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 3: But this is what it shows you is the Ravens

1262
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 3: have swung and missed drafting wide receivers for numerous years,

1263
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: and now they're overpaying Odell Beckham Junior, who once was phenomenal,

1264
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: But as a guy now that has had two ACL

1265
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: injuries in sixteen months to the same knee, okay, and

1266
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 3: they're paying him upwards of eighteen mil for one year

1267
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: like he's it's not a true number one receiver anymore

1268
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 3: in my mind in this league. He's a solid number two.

1269
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 3: But they're paying him like a legitimate, like top tier

1270
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: number one, And that just shows you that they're desperate

1271
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: to try to correct the wrongs that they've created. They've

1272
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: swung and hit on many draft picks in many different

1273
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: positional groups, but not wide receiver. And this shows you

1274
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: with this type of deal, they're way more desperate than

1275
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 3: the Jets. Like you said, Rich, that obj's representative calls

1276
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: up the Jets like, hey, you want to match it,

1277
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: and the Jets were like, yeah, no.

1278
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: Not at all.

1279
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: Why did they Because they have Garrett Wilson, they're in

1280
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: a better position. They're not as desperate as Baltimore is.

1281
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you said it perfectly. I

1282
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 4: think a lot of people turn and look to what

1283
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 4: happened with the Rams and Odell Beckham junior post trade,

1284
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 4: and they go, well, he was so amazing with the Rams. Yeah,

1285
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 4: look across the field. That's Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup had

1286
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 4: an unbelievable season that year. So when you're Odell Beckham

1287
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 4: Junior and you're a number two, all of a sudden

1288
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 4: on the Los Angeles Rams, you're going to have single

1289
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: coverage every single game. They're gonna be able to put

1290
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 4: you in the slot as opposed to you know, have

1291
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 4: to do all the things that a number one receiver

1292
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 4: would have to do and use you differently. And as

1293
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 4: a result, he really benefited from that system for the

1294
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 4: half season he played before tearing his ACL and missing

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Speaker 4: last season. So everything you said is true. I'll even

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01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 4: add to it this layer of complexity. What message does

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01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 4: this send to Lamar Jackson? You know, so you sign

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 4: this aging wide receiver for this big contract, more money

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01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 4: than any other team was willing to pay him, but

1300
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 4: you're not gonna pay me like like, okay, so you're

1301
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 4: giving top of the market money to Odell Beckham Junior

1302
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 4: for a year, but you're but my deals too rich?

1303
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 4: Like I just think Baltimore is fumbling everything right now

1304
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 4: in this offseason, and those chickens may come home to roost.

1305
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 4: In terms of not having a starting quarterback, he I mean,

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01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson very very conceivably could hold out this season

1307
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 4: and then you're kind of screwed.

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 5: Well someone, this is fifth team in the fourth team

1309
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 5: in the last five years. I mean, it's been a

1310
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 5: roundabout kind of circus for Odell in Cleveland and now

1311
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 5: in another AFC North team.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm.

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 5: With you guys on the Lamar thing. I think this

1314
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 5: actually net negative for Lamar staying in Baltimore.

1315
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: After it's all said.

1316
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 3: And done, well, there's only net positive when it comes

1317
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 3: to this man. That is Isaac Lowenkron with the latest.

1318
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: I lo, what's going on, Buddy.

1319
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Speaker 6: Got a Kelsey Brothers story for you guys that was

1320
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 6: just revealed coming up. But first, the field in the

1321
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 6: NBA Playoffs is complete. In the play in Tournament on

1322
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 6: Friday night, at the Minnesota Timberwolves captured the eighth seed

1323
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 6: in the Western Conference with a one twenty to ninety

1324
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 6: five win over Oklahoma City. It'll be the Timberwolves at

1325
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 6: one seed Denver. On Sunday night. In the Eastern Conference,

1326
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 6: Miami won the eighth seed with a one two to

1327
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 6: ninety one triumph over the Chicago Bulls. It'll be the

1328
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 6: Heat against one seed Milwaukee in Round one on Sunday

1329
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 6: Baseball Friday Night. After a thirteen and oh start, the

1330
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 6: Tampa Bay Rays excepted their first loss of the season.

1331
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 6: They stink. The Toronto Blue Jays beat them six to three.

1332
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 6: Yan Gomes two home runs and the Cubs eight towo

1333
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 6: win over the Dodgers in La Dodgers now seven and seven.

1334
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 6: Seattle's Jared Kelnick homer for a fourth straight game as

1335
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 6: the Mariners defeated the Rockies five to three. Rowdy Tellez

1336
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 6: two home runs for Milwaukee and they're eleven to two

1337
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 6: win at San Diego and the Mets Francisco Lindor a

1338
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 6: Grand Slam in seven RBI as the Mets one at

1339
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 6: Oakland seventeen to six. Finally, Kansas City Chiefs starre tight

1340
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 6: end Travis Kelsey revealed on a podcast that back when

1341
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 6: he first made it to the NFL, his older brother

1342
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 6: Jason Kelsey, gave him a brand new F one truck

1343
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 6: as a present. Very thoughtful, very nice. Only problem was,

1344
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 6: within ten hours of receiving the truck, Travis Kelsey had

1345
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 6: it stolen when he left a set of keys inside

1346
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 6: while visiting a gentleman's club on that so too. Back

1347
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 6: to you.

1348
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: I explained that to your wife. Yeah, car stolen. Where

1349
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: were you, Travis?

1350
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, when he came in the league, so he wasn't married.

1351
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, h that's fair. OK, that has to be one

1352
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,560
Speaker 4: of those that happened when I wasn't married stories. Otherwise

1353
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be married.

1354
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 3: Afterward, Fox Sports Saturday, You're on Fox Sports Radio. You

1355
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 3: know what's funny, We're also talking about the Ravens and

1356
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and he requested a trade. Going all the

1357
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 3: way back to March second, and you're seeing a trend

1358
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 3: here in the NFL where guys have requested to trade

1359
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 3: and the teams are like, we're gonna try to work

1360
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 3: out a deal, right Like you saw that with Lamar.

1361
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 3: Like the president, Sashi Brown of the Ravens, he said,

1362
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 3: we're committed to trying to get something done. John Harbaugh,

1363
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 3: the head coach, it's all been about no, no, we're

1364
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 3: gonna try to make this thing work.

1365
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: You know.

1366
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: You saw that with Devin White with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

1367
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 3: the star linebacker. He requested a trade this week and

1368
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 3: the GM Jason Light is like, yeah, we're gonna try

1369
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 3: to make this work. And I just I think about

1370
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 3: that Buddha Baker you mentioned at the top of the show,

1371
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 3: Jared about him requesting a trade from the Cardinals. Will

1372
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 3: be interesting to see their response to that. But it

1373
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: really differs between the NFL and the NBA. It seems

1374
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 3: like a lot of times in the NFL when a

1375
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 3: trade is requested, a lot of times the team will

1376
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 3: be like, now, we're gonna try to work it out.

1377
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 3: In the NBA, a lot of teams when a star

1378
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 3: player requests a trade, they're like, all right, he's on

1379
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 3: the first thing smoking out of here. We just we

1380
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: can't make it work otherwise. I don't know what you

1381
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 3: guys think.

1382
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: Are they just.

1383
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 3: Two different sports, or do you think the NBA it

1384
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 3: could work where a team just says, yeah, we know

1385
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 3: you want to leave, but we think this thing can

1386
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: work out. We're gonna keep you here, right Like, I

1387
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 3: wonder if NBA teams could take a page from the

1388
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 3: NFL and it actually work out by not granting a

1389
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 3: trade request from a star player.

1390
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 4: The problem. The problem. The biggest difference is the level

1391
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 4: of consequence if a star does decide not to show

1392
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 4: up at all, you know, so in you know, for example, Baltimore,

1393
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 4: if Lamar Jackson doesn't show up, they are magnitudes worse off.

1394
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: But however, like you know you you can. You can

1395
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 4: hide some of your problems a lot easier in the

1396
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 4: NFL with a good defense, with a strong running game,

1397
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 4: with a backup quarterback and understudy who knows his role.

1398
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 4: I mean, just look at brock Purty. Look at the

1399
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 4: revolving door to quarterback with the San Francisco forty nine ers.

1400
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 4: That's a team that went all the way to the

1401
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 4: championship game in their conference without a starting quarterback for

1402
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 4: the majority of their season. So star players in the

1403
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 4: NFL are of less consequence to the team as they

1404
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 4: are in the NBA. If you have a Lebron or

1405
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 4: kd or a Jean Moran or a Yannis all of

1406
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 4: a sudden or Luca say hey, you know what I'm

1407
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 4: done here, you gotta start making moves immediately if you

1408
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 4: feel like it's a serious threat or a real request,

1409
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 4: and it's not about getting paid more, and it's not

1410
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 4: about like dissatisfaction with maybe another player on the team

1411
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 4: that you should move. If they want out, you kind

1412
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 4: of have to grant them that because if they start

1413
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 4: not showing up. You're going to ruin your attendance, You're

1414
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 4: going to ruin the team's just going to be ruined.

1415
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 4: And so you gotta trade them while you still have

1416
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 4: you know, value and capital you can return and receive

1417
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 4: in return for trading away the asset.

1418
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, the players, the NBA stars have way more power. Yeah,

1419
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 5: that's been the issue, and that's why we're having the

1420
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 5: current issue with you know, Design Williams and stuff you

1421
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 5: know coming up you know this week.

1422
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean that has nothing to do with the trade,

1423
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 1: but they.

1424
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 5: Just they have a lot of power because of just

1425
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,839
Speaker 5: the way that the league is structured and the collective

1426
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 5: bargain agreements and all that stuff. They just have more

1427
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 5: power than they do in the NFL. And I don't

1428
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 5: know if that applies to the quarterbacks per se, but

1429
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 5: the non quarterbacks do not have nearly as much power

1430
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 5: as an NBA star, or, let's say Lamar Jackson. It's

1431
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 5: actually funny because as we're talking about this, I saw

1432
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 5: a report from Michael Lombardi that Lamar Jackson actually said

1433
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 5: to the Ravens, we're not we can talk if you

1434
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 5: get Odell and DeAndre Hopkins, and they said no, we

1435
01:13:56,360 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 5: can't afford both. And then they sign Odell to what

1436
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 5: I think most would say is a very lucrative, rich contract.

1437
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 5: And maybe that's why Odell. Maybe Odell knew that and

1438
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 5: that's why he was begging, Like, Hey.

1439
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: Lamar, I hope I'm enough. But I know you wanted

1440
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: DeAndre too, but I hope I'm enough.

1441
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 5: It's just it's such a bizarre situation. Because you have

1442
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 5: this money, why wouldn't you give it to Lamar? I

1443
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 5: don't understand. I don't want to, you know, take the

1444
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 5: conversation away from the trade talks and where the NBA

1445
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 5: and the NFL players kind of differ there. But I

1446
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 5: think it all kind of revolves around this specific team

1447
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 5: and this specific player, because Lamar literally six weeks ago

1448
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 5: tells the team I want to be traded, and then

1449
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 5: they go out and they sign arguably one of the

1450
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 5: best talents in his prime, you know, injuries aside at

1451
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 5: the position that the Ravens desperately need, and there is

1452
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 5: still no Yep, that's it.

1453
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: Lamar's in.

1454
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 5: We're ready to roll now, Like what else can the

1455
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 5: Ravens really do? I think that's a tall task to

1456
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 5: get Odell and Deandrery Hopkins. I mean, that's that's asking

1457
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 5: a lot. I think if I was Lamar, I would

1458
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 5: be okay with Odell, But I don't know all the

1459
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 5: other you know, behind the scenes things going on with

1460
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 5: this specific situation.

1461
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's tough.

1462
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 5: These players have a lot of power, but you're right,

1463
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 5: the NBA players have a lot more.

1464
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 3: Well, I would just say real fast as a little

1465
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: uh you know, cherry on top if you will, I

1466
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 3: think it matters in the NFL if the request is

1467
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm sick of it here, I hate it,

1468
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 3: get me out, or it's a negotiating tactic. Where if

1469
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 3: we saw that with Deebo Samuel with the forty nine ers,

1470
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 3: he requested a trade. Next thing, you know, he had

1471
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: a bigger contract. Could be a similar situation, Yeah, with

1472
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 3: the car jam, Yeah, it could be a similar thing.

1473
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 3: Lamar isn't necessarily saying I'm done, I'm out of here

1474
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 3: no more, be more right, like you're saying, pay me

1475
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 3: and requesting a trade is one of his tactics to

1476
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 3: try to get that cash. In the NBA, I'm just

1477
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 3: I'm curious if there's going to be a team that says, hey,

1478
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 3: superstar player, you've requested a tree. We get that, but

1479
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 3: we're not gonna grant it. Like it, because it seems

1480
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: every single time they're like, Okay, all right, that sucks,

1481
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 3: but all right, we'll do it your way. You know,

1482
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 3: I wonder if there's gonna be a team that pushes

1483
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 3: back similarly to the NFL. All right, we've got Rich Hornberger,

1484
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 3: Penn State at All American Jared Smith, Fox Sports Radio

1485
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 3: betting analyst.

1486
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm Brian no coming up next.

1487
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Speaker 3: You talk about an absolutely pathetic response, man, We've got.

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Speaker 2: One for you. It is Fox Sports Saturday right here

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Speaker 3: So the Dallas Mavericks, they have been fined seven hundred

1497
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars for conduct detrimental to the league.

1498
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: That's what happened. The ruling this comes from key players,

1499
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 3: all the starters sitting out in an April seventh game

1500
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 3: against the Bulls. Well, Luka Doncic did play the first

1501
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 3: quarter and thirty five seconds into the second quarter. Then

1502
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 3: his night was done, his season was done, as Dallas

1503
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 3: basically tried to lose out, which they did so they

1504
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: could keep their top ten pick. They had a top

1505
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: ten protected pick as part of the Chris tops Porzingis

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01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 3: deal in twenty nineteen, so Dallas needed to lose out

1507
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: instead of try to get into the play in tournament

1508
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 3: to keep that top ten pick. The thing that they did,

1509
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: they said the quiet part out loud. Jason Kidd made

1510
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 3: statements about, Hey, this is an organizational decision. This is

1511
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: what we're doing. I just look at other teams that

1512
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: were tanking. Also, the Pacers rested their guys. The Blazers.

1513
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 3: The lineups that the Blazers had for the last couple

1514
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: of weeks were a complete joke. No fine for them,

1515
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: but a fine for the Dallas Mavericks. And it's only

1516
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, guys, this is a

1517
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 3: slap on the wrist. Dallas is trying to keep its

1518
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 3: top ten pick to try to have a talented player

1519
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 3: to keep Luka Doncic. They'll pay the seven hundred and

1520
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars. Fine, It just great. It greatly differs

1521
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 3: from the NFL, where I think about the Dolphins in

1522
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 3: tampering and Goodall's like, oh, Dolphins, you don't need your

1523
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 3: first round pick, you know what I mean, like, yank,

1524
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 3: take it away.

1525
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 2: And yet the.

1526
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,680
Speaker 3: NBA little little slap on the wrist, little slap on

1527
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 3: the hip, naughty, naughty maps, naughty maps, seven hundred and

1528
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars.

1529
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 2: Fine, what a joke. That's not gonna change anything.

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01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 4: No, it won't change anything. And Mark Cuban gladly will

1531
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 4: pay whatever it is near a million dollars to have

1532
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: a top ten pick. I mean, you get a lottery ball, right,

1533
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 4: you know, I mean this is that's what just happened.

1534
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 4: This was a business transaction. Mark Cuban said, low risk,

1535
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 4: high reward. I'm going to invest seven hundred and fifty

1536
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 4: thousand dollars into the chance that I can go and

1537
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 4: get whatever player I want in this year's NBA draft,

1538
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 4: potentially if our ping pong ball is taken first. Yeah,

1539
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 4: I'll gladly pay that. You know if you if he

1540
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 4: believes in the fairness that the NBA provides that everybody

1541
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 4: with a a ping pong ball in the in the

1542
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 4: hopper gets gets a chance, well then that that's to me,

1543
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 4: that's a smart investment if you're a guy with disposable

1544
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 4: cash like Mark Mark Cuban.

1545
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is like a twisted, sick, sadistic episode of

1546
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 5: Shark Tank, right, like with the entire NBA as the Sharks.

1547
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 5: And and Mark's like, well, I'm just gonna make this

1548
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,480
Speaker 5: offer to you guys right now. And the NBA ownership's

1549
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 5: like or the NBA leadership's like, yeah, no, we're not

1550
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 5: gonna take this deal, but we'll give you here this

1551
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 5: little side deal.

1552
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: And Mark's like, yep, yep, I sign up for that.

1553
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,799
Speaker 1: I'm good. It's it's weird.

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 5: I wish they would have, you know, fined him seventy

1555
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 5: five million, but obviously that's not possible. It's just it's

1556
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 5: this has gotta stop. And I don't know if this

1557
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 5: this is not going to be a the turren for

1558
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 5: it to stop.

1559
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: Unfort Yeah, it won't stop.

1560
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 3: When you've got a weak parent in Adam Silver, this

1561
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 3: will never happen in the NFL far more would be done.

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Speaker 2: Who would you rather play for?

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Speaker 3: the NFL draft? It's funny we almost always look at

1577
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Speaker 3: it in terms of what can the players do for

1578
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 3: the teams? That's typically the way the draft has looked at,

1579
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 3: especially the top of the draft. Is it Bryce Young

1580
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 3: or is it CJ. Stroud? Which quarterback can do more

1581
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 3: for the Panthers who have the number one overall pick?

1582
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 3: But flip that around, what can the teams provide for

1583
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 3: the players? Can the teams provide for the quarterback? So?

1584
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 3: Which team would you rather play for? If you're Bryce

1585
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 3: Young or you're CJ.

1586
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: Stroud.

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01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to be the number one overall pick, right, Like,

1588
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: put that to the side. Just look at the teams.

1589
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 3: Which is a better situation for you for success, for

1590
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 3: weapons around you, coaching staff, all of that good stuff.

1591
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 3: Would you rather play for the Panthers or play for

1592
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,440
Speaker 3: the Houston Texans.

1593
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: I only got to like this, guys.

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01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 3: I'd rather play for the Texans because you look at

1595
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 3: the Panthers. They just gave up a boat load of

1596
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: picks and Dj Moore, a talented wide receiver, to move

1597
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: up to number one to get that top pick. Meanwhile,

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01:21:55,439 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 3: Houston they've acquired all of these draft assets, all of

1599
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 3: these picks from the Deshaun Watson deal, and they've got

1600
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 3: picks galore.

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01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 2: It's like Little John with shot shots shots. They've got picks, picks, picks, picks.

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01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 3: Over there with Houston, you've got way more draft capital.

1603
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 3: There's no way Houston is swinging and missing on all

1604
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: of those draft picks this year, next year, it's impossible.

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01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 3: So I would rather go to the Houston Texans and

1606
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 3: that ragtag division. They're not gonna be a doormat for

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01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 3: much longer, and they have a quicker fix to upgrade

1608
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 3: the talent around you, specifically wide receivers weapons to throw

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01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: to than Carolina does. I think it's Houston instead of Carolina.

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01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:39,719
Speaker 3: That's the way it is in my mind.

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Speaker 4: Well, I look at it really as a as a quarterback.

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01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,839
Speaker 4: Who are you gonna be dealing with on a daily

1613
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 4: basis and communicating with the most? Yeah, I mean obviously

1614
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 4: your teammates matter in that, but it's also how you're

1615
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 4: gonna be developed and who are your influences, and the

1616
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 4: main ones being your head coach and your offensive coordinator

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 4: and your quarterbacks coach. And with Frank Reich in Carolina,

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01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 4: I feel like there's more stability there. Ryan's is a

1619
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 4: great defensive mind. He's skyrocketed to the tippy top of

1620
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 4: the heap in terms of hirable candidates, and so he's

1621
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 4: earned this head coaching opportunity with the Texans, but he's

1622
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 4: never done this before. Frank Reich has done this successfully

1623
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 4: in Indianapolis for years now, and I think if he

1624
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 4: had more stability at the quarterback position, he would still

1625
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 4: be in Indianapolis. And it's by no fault of his own.

1626
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 4: I mean the fact that Andrew Luck kind of by

1627
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 4: protecting himself and made the right decision if you're asking

1628
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 4: me for his life and for his family retired. It

1629
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 4: pulled the rug out from under him. Otherwise he would

1630
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 4: still be in Indianapolis, you know. So I think that

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01:23:55,439 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 4: Frank Reich's you know, the more tested, you know, easier gamble.

1632
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 4: I guess I would say if I was a quarterback,

1633
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 4: you know, if I wanted to throw my lot in

1634
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 4: with one guy or the other, and so, yeah, that's

1635
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 4: the reason why I would choose the Carolina Panthers. You

1636
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 4: can pay for talent, you know what I mean. You

1637
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 4: don't necessarily have to go in the draft. You could

1638
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,759
Speaker 4: get free agent wide receivers, you can fix some problems

1639
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 4: in free agency. You can't get a better coach though.

1640
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 4: Once once you're selected first, overall, you're just sort of

1641
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 4: in with whoever you're in with.

1642
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, if I'm Bryce young er CJ. Stroud,

1643
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 5: I'd want to know which team has the better offensive line,

1644
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 5: especially if I'm Bryce young with the size and with

1645
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 5: the stature that we've talked about, and it's been the

1646
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:48,839
Speaker 5: most hot button topic of his pre draft process, besides

1647
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:50,719
Speaker 5: the S two score, which I think kind of seals

1648
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 5: the deal for him to be the number one pick.

1649
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: But when you look at.

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Speaker 5: What the Panthers offensive line did last year, slightly better,

1651
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 5: but again the grades were not great. The Texans offensive

1652
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 5: line was one of the worst in football and they

1653
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 5: really struggled last year, and that's gonna be I think

1654
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 5: an area of need. And you know you mentioned the

1655
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 5: patch Patch picks that I would be spending picks on

1656
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 5: some of those offensive linemen, especially at the center and

1657
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 5: right tackle positions, because I think Larry mctunsel's okay at

1658
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 5: left tackle, he's one of the better ones in the league.

1659
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,440
Speaker 5: But the rest of the offensive line, especially the interior

1660
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,759
Speaker 5: of the offensive line, was really bad for the Texans

1661
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 5: last year. They've got a little running game, right Damian

1662
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 5: Pierce got a little giddy up to him, and I

1663
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 5: think the wide receiver group for Houston is young but

1664
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 5: also talented. Collins had a really good year and I

1665
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 5: think they got a Metchi too. We didn't see him

1666
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 5: last year, but that's a kid that I'm very excited

1667
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 5: to watch. And then they bring in Robert Woods, who's

1668
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 5: kind of the veteran of the group. I think the

1669
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 5: upside with Houston's fantastic, but I think Carolina has got

1670
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 5: the better maybe ste I like the way Rich framed it,

1671
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 5: stability offensive line head coach. I think it's a more

1672
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 5: fit in day one. But I think maybe the Texans

1673
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 5: are the growth stock, right, maybe they're like the Tesla

1674
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 5: and and perhaps the Panthers are maybe more of the

1675
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 5: Johnson and Johnson's stability stock the value stock. So I

1676
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 5: guess it really depends on what your risk appetite is.

1677
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 5: And maybe for Bryce Young, because the injury situation might

1678
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 5: be a little more prevalent with his size and stature,

1679
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 5: maybe you take the more stable situation and maybe that's

1680
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 5: the one that's preferred.

1681
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned that John Metchi situation. He had leukemia

1682
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 3: diagnosed with leukemia and missed all of his rookie season

1683
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 3: last year. So that was that was a brutal blow

1684
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 3: for the Houston Texans. And you know, obviously for John Metchi,

1685
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 3: we hope everything's okay with his you know, his recovery there.

1686
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think you bring up a great point, Jared,

1687
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 3: because a lot of times we just go straight to hey,

1688
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 3: who's catching the football instead of Hey, who's protecting you?

1689
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: First?

1690
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 3: Like, the offensive line matters a lot, especially for a

1691
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 3: guy like Young. So that is a great point by you.

1692
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 3: The one thing I would point out, and I hear

1693
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 3: this a lot. Like Frank Reich. I like his credentials.

1694
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 3: I like what he's done in the NFL. But I

1695
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 3: think oftentimes we'll look at, Hey, Frank Reich's the head

1696
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 3: coach of the Carolina Panthers, Demiko Ryans, who's a former

1697
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator and former linebacker. He's a defensive head coach, right.

1698
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 3: I think sometimes we blow that out of proportion because

1699
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 3: you look at some of these teams that have defensive

1700
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 3: head coaches and they're just fine. Like look at Josh

1701
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 3: Allen with the Bills, he's fine with Sean McDermott as

1702
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: a defensive minded head coach. We know about Brady with Belichick, right,

1703
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: we know about Justin Herbert has been one of the

1704
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,480
Speaker 3: better quarterbacks in the league. Brandon Staley is a defensive

1705
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 3: head coach. Same thing with the Seahawks. Gino Smith had

1706
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 3: his best season by far in the NFL. Look at

1707
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,520
Speaker 3: what Russell Wilson did in Seattle. Pete Carroll's a defensive

1708
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 3: minded head coach. So I think sometimes we go too

1709
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 3: far with that of, oh, well, we've got this offensive

1710
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 3: minded head coach. Therefore this team instead of this defensive

1711
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 3: minded head coach. I just think sometimes it goes too far.

1712
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 3: And I like what Houston's building. And when you have

1713
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 3: a treasure chest of draft picks, yeah, I would rather

1714
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: if I'm Bryce Young or CJ. Stroud, I put the

1715
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 3: number one pick to the side. There's a bit more

1716
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 3: money being number one, But in terms of fit and

1717
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 3: in terms of talent around me, I think Houston offers more.

1718
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: I really do.

1719
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 4: I listen. I get what you were saying and where

1720
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 4: I'm drawing the lines with debate with you or anybody

1721
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 4: who is buying the growth stock in Houston is when

1722
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 4: I hire a contractor to work on my house, I

1723
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 4: hire the guy who's got a lot of jobs under

1724
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 4: his belt. You know, when I get a surgery, and

1725
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 4: I've had several done, I want the surgeon who's been

1726
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 4: in the o R for ten years versus the guy

1727
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 4: who's you know, one year on the job. You Know,

1728
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 4: when I get my car service, I'd prefer be done

1729
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 4: by a mechanic who's got all of the tools and

1730
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 4: the experience and the equipment, rather than the guy who's

1731
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,839
Speaker 4: going to be running out to advanced autoparts are Riley

1732
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,639
Speaker 4: auto parts to pick up, you know, some of the

1733
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 4: things that he needs for this specific job. You know,

1734
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 4: it's kind of that been there, done that thing with

1735
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 4: Frank Reich, and it is the great unknown. And it

1736
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with the fact that Demiico Rians

1737
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 4: is a defensive coordinator. It has everything to do with

1738
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 4: his experience as a head coach. You know, when you're

1739
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 4: a head coach, I mean even if you're a defensive

1740
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,480
Speaker 4: have a defensive background, you can still help the offense.

1741
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 4: And when you've been doing it, you know whether you

1742
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 4: have a background as an offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator.

1743
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 4: For as long as Frank Reich in this league, because

1744
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 4: remember he was an assistant for a long time before

1745
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 4: he got his first head coaching job. He was a

1746
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 4: quarterbacks coach in Arizona with me in twenty twelve. You know,

1747
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 4: he was an assistant I think tight ends coach in

1748
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 4: San Diego with me in twenty thirteen. He was elevated

1749
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 4: to OC in twenty fourteen and then left for Philadelphia,

1750
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 4: where he was an understudy to Peterson for years before

1751
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 4: getting the head coaching job with the with the with

1752
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 4: the Indianapolis Colts, so he had a decade plus of

1753
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 4: assistant coaching before getting a head coaching gig. Demiko Ryans,

1754
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 4: he's a young man. I mean, like, let's put it

1755
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 4: this way, he was a Houston Texan not long ago,

1756
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 4: Like I mean, a player, you know so. And I'm

1757
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 4: not saying, like, you know, a guy who's young. Sean

1758
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 4: McVay perfect example. You can be you can be born

1759
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 4: for it. You know, you could be a born head coach.

1760
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 4: And I really feel that way about Sean McVay. But

1761
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 4: it also it could go sideways pretty quick for a

1762
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 4: guy who's in over his head. I don't know what

1763
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 4: side of the coin we're gonna see for Demico Ryans,

1764
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 4: or maybe it's somewhere in the middle, but I do

1765
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 4: know what I'm getting with Frank Reich, and that would

1766
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 4: be the reason why I would trust the Carolina Panthers

1767
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,759
Speaker 4: right now, even with a little bit of a dearth

1768
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 4: of draft picks over a situation in Houston.

1769
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 5: The situation you just described, Rich is exactly why Houston

1770
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 5: should not take a quarterback in two Like to me,

1771
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 5: that that laundry list of reasons why Houston has the

1772
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 5: longer runway to be great, you don't want to. So

1773
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 5: it's I think personally it's easier to miss on a

1774
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 5: quarterback than it is on a defensive lineman or an

1775
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 5: offensive tackle. Like I just think the quarterback position is

1776
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 5: so fickle, and if you look at some of the quarterbacks,

1777
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 5: it's so boom or bust, where I think there's more

1778
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 5: room in the neutral realm for an offensive lineman or

1779
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 5: defensive lineman or corner or safety or ace to have

1780
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,839
Speaker 5: a little bit more success in the NFL right away,

1781
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 5: where I think the quarterback has to be in the

1782
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 5: perfect spot with the perfect coach, and everything else around

1783
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 5: them has to kind of be perfect in order for

1784
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 5: it to succeed. You saw what you saw the jump

1785
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 5: that Trevor Lawrence made once all of a sudden, Doug

1786
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,599
Speaker 5: Peterson came into town. You saw the jump that Daniel

1787
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 5: Jones made when all of a sudden, you know, Brian

1788
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,759
Speaker 5: Dabele came into town. That's not the situation in Houston

1789
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 5: right now. So that's why I think the patient approach

1790
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 5: with the Texans. You've got a bootload of draft picks,

1791
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 5: build it the right way, go inside out, offensive line,

1792
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 5: defensive line, Get the guy that's gonna be your edge

1793
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 5: rusher or your right tackle or what you know. To me,

1794
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 5: that's how you build a franchise in the NFL. And

1795
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 5: then when the quarterback, it's almost like dating when you know,

1796
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 5: you know with the quarterback. And I don't think the

1797
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 5: Texans are sold on anyone else besides Bryce Young, and

1798
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 5: so if you're not one hundred percent sold, take the

1799
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 5: best player in the draft at two, Take the next

1800
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 5: best player in the draft at twelve.

1801
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Continue to build and build and build.

1802
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 5: And then when the right quarterback situation comes along, you

1803
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 5: take that guy, and then your team, with the culture

1804
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 5: that you've built from the ground up, is ready to roll.

1805
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 5: So I think Frank Reich and the Panthers are a

1806
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 5: little more win now and the Texans because of all

1807
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 5: the things that you described, Rich and Brian, I think

1808
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 5: it's a little more of a slow burn. And I

1809
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 5: think that's what we're going to see play out on

1810
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 5: Draft night with the first pick and then Houston taking

1811
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 5: a non quarterback at two.

1812
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 3: Well, I love what you said, but I'm going to

1813
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 3: point out the one thing I don't love. It's no

1814
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 3: there's a skill of mine or a.

1815
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: Full I would say you're elited it, my friend.

1816
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 3: I think you might agree with this though, Jared, I

1817
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 3: think they're both in the same position. But the Panthers

1818
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 3: making that move, they have to go quarterback right right here.

1819
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 1: I agree. I do agree with that.

1820
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 5: I do agree with that because now you push your

1821
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 5: chips to the middle, right, you pulled an Ornberger at

1822
01:33:58,439 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 5: the poker table.

1823
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you gotta go QB now.

1824
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 3: Even though I think the Panthers are more in the

1825
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 3: position of without having assets, without having draft picks. You know,

1826
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 3: this draft and the next draft, it cost you a

1827
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 3: ton to move up to number one, They're not in

1828
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 3: a position to go quarterback, Like they need a lot

1829
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,720
Speaker 3: of stuff before. It's like they have a baby, but

1830
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 3: they don't have a crib, or they don't have clothes,

1831
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 3: or it's just like, shoot, we're not really ready for this.

1832
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: No diapers.

1833
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 3: But yeah, but they just got to go for it

1834
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 3: right now. But I think what you bring up, and

1835
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 3: I totally agree with this, what the Houston Texans is,

1836
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 3: did they look at this draft and say, hey, we

1837
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 3: wanted Bryce Young. Let's say they have a thing for

1838
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 3: you know, undersized short you know, slender quarterbacks who process quickly.

1839
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 3: But might not be able to last long physically. Let's

1840
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 3: say that's their guy and he's gone, he goes number

1841
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 3: one overall. I think that's fascinating to say, hey, Caleb

1842
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 3: Williams and Drake May next year, both those guys are

1843
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,759
Speaker 3: better than any these dudes. I wonder if the Texans

1844
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 3: think of it that way in past, if they pass

1845
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 3: on a QB number two overall with an eye toward

1846
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 3: next year, that would be fascinating. The one question I

1847
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 3: would have is are they going to be bad enough

1848
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 3: to have one of the top two picks next year,

1849
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 3: because they might. They've upgraded that roster a decent amount

1850
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,720
Speaker 3: where they might sneak around and end up with the

1851
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 3: third pick they have to trade up.

1852
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 5: But that's well down your bull of Mavericks and just

1853
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 5: bench everybody.

1854
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 3: I don't say what Jason Kidds said, You're okay.

1855
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, they draft a quarterback and they still start Davis

1856
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 4: Mills for the entire season. I hear, Here's here's the

1857
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 4: reality is. I think I think, you know, I think

1858
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 4: the Houston Texans do have more on ramp, so if

1859
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 4: they win defense, it would make more sense to me

1860
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 4: than if the Carolina Panthers do, because I think the

1861
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers are set up more and hence the reason

1862
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 4: why they traded away draft capital to go to number

1863
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 4: one for a quarterback to kickstart them and push them

1864
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 4: off in the right direction right now than the Houston

1865
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 4: Texans are. So if they go defense at second overall,

1866
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 4: it actually wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. And then,

1867
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 4: like you just said, Brian, like it's potential then that

1868
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 4: they're going to be picking close to the top of

1869
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 4: the draft next year because they haven't cured all their

1870
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 4: ills yet and so it's another year where they're in

1871
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 4: the development phase before they're ready to pop. And we've

1872
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 4: seen that so many times where teams, you know, they

1873
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 4: build the offensive line, they build the defensive line, they

1874
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 4: build around the quarterback position, and they strengthen everywhere else

1875
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 4: before they draft the rookie quarterback. Because when you do that,

1876
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 4: then if there's a team built around them, like the

1877
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles did with Jalen Hurts, like the forty nine

1878
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 4: ers did, and then Jimmy Garoppolo and now Trey Lance,

1879
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 4: they have an opportunit unity where the quarterback position isn't

1880
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 4: as consequential as it would be if you were going

1881
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,759
Speaker 4: to draft the quarterback first and then off to the races,

1882
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 4: trying to build around them in a short amount of time.

1883
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,160
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Speaker 3: All right, we've got Rich Orenberger Penn State All American,

1888
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Speaker 3: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, also Horizon and Mountain West

1889
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 3: betting expert.

1890
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I still have my college basketball guys. What

1891
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: a San Diego State Rich.

1892
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 3: Maybe a Western Conference betting guru over the.

1893
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe an We got an Eastern Conference game in

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Speaker 1: about an hour and a half.

1895
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he will find out.

1896
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Speaker 1: That's six the show.

1897
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 2: Here you go. I'm Brian though. All right, coming up next.

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Speaker 3: These players have not been shy about selling themselves at all.

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Speaker 3: the upcoming NFL Draft, they have not been shy about

1908
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Speaker 3: selling themselves. The latest example Anthony Richardson, Florida quarterback. He

1909
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 3: wrote an open letter on the Player's tribune titled Dear NFLGMS,

1910
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 3: and a portion of that he wrote, all I gotta

1911
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 3: say is watch how hard I work. In my mind,

1912
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 3: I can do anything with the football in my hand,

1913
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 3: but I know that no one will ever work harder

1914
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 3: than me to improve. End quote is what Anthony Richardson wrote.

1915
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:56,480
Speaker 3: Right there, Listen, we've seen this throughout the entire offseason.

1916
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, my favorite Alabama quarterback, said I've been this

1917
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 3: side my whole life, my favorite whole off season right there.

1918
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. CJ.

1919
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 3: Strout, Ohio State quarterbacks say I think I've been the

1920
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 3: best player the last two years. So these players have

1921
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 3: not been shy at all about selling themselves, which is fine.

1922
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 3: They're competitive, they want to go number one. Overall, it's

1923
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 3: all good.

1924
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 1: I think.

1925
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 3: What's interesting, too, guys, is you hear this a lot

1926
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 3: and I never really gave it much thought, is what

1927
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson wrote, which is, no one will ever work

1928
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 3: harder than me to improve. And I never really was

1929
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 3: cynical about that until now, where I'm like, it's kind

1930
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 3: of like presumptuous to think that no one's ever gonna

1931
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 3: work harder than you, you know what I mean, Like,

1932
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 3: don't you think like but you hear that a lot,

1933
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 3: And I never really gave it a second thought until

1934
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 3: right now. But in any event, these guys are just

1935
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 3: being competitive, nothing wrong with it whatsoever. But it's just

1936
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,879
Speaker 3: funny how it affects the betting market, where Anthony Richardson

1937
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 3: writes an open letter and all of a sudden, odds

1938
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 3: to be a higher pick, you know.

1939
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 2: Are affected.

1940
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 3: It's just funny how it goes like that sometimes though.

1941
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:08,839
Speaker 4: Well, you know, and it's also a little bit telling.

1942
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 4: I think. I think both both sides of this, the

1943
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 4: fact that he felt compelled to write this letter in

1944
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,759
Speaker 4: the first place, and the fact that he's talking about

1945
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 4: his work ethic and his ability to improve upon where

1946
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 4: he's at, it just it just screams desperation a little bit.

1947
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 4: You know. It's that you know, pick me attitude that.

1948
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan would never write a letter like that,

1949
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 4: Kobe would never write a letter like that. Lebron James

1950
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 4: would never write a letter like that. Like there there

1951
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 4: are athletes who just know they're the greatest. Patrick Mahomes

1952
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 4: would never write a letter like that. You know. Tom

1953
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 4: Brady famously, when he was drafted in the sixth round

1954
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 4: by the Patriots, shook Robert Craft's hands, said, that's the

1955
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,759
Speaker 4: best decision you've ever made in your career.

1956
01:40:59,160 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1957
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it just stinks of desperation to me.

1958
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 4: Now he's young, and with youth there's immaturity. And maybe

1959
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 4: this is something that his agent convinced him to do,

1960
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 4: or something that he convinced his agent he thought was

1961
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 4: the best idea for him. You raising his draft stock,

1962
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 4: and who knows, maybe this works on uh, you know,

1963
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 4: one front office or another, and it only takes one.

1964
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 4: You know. We know that that that old adage that's

1965
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 4: proven true so many times. So maybe he's helped his

1966
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 4: draft stack. I don't know. I just I think it's

1967
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 4: just words. I think it seemed it sounds, it sounds

1968
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 4: a little silly, and I I'm always more of a

1969
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 4: hey instead of talking about like how how great you are,

1970
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 4: or or telling everybody you know, how hard of a

1971
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:56,600
Speaker 4: worker you are. Why don't why don't you show everybody

1972
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 4: because I know we're kind of we've ran out of

1973
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 4: on ramp you to do that in terms of your

1974
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 4: your college career. But I think, like I think at

1975
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 4: this point, the Hayes in the barn and you know,

1976
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 4: maybe maybe use those who pass over you as fuel

1977
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 4: at the next level. At this point, I just don't

1978
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 4: know how much this can do for him, and I

1979
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 4: worry about how much it could potentially hurt him, And

1980
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 4: so it's a risk I wouldn't be really interested in. If,

1981
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 4: like say, I was his public relations director, I would

1982
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 4: strongly encourage him not to do that, you know, because

1983
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 4: I don't think it really I don't think it really

1984
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 4: will necessarily hurt him, but I don't think it helps

1985
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 4: him many.

1986
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 5: No, I agree with you, guys. I don't think it

1987
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 5: helps him at all. Here's what I think happened. I

1988
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 5: think his agent or his people said, you're slipping in

1989
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 5: the draft, and you know you're not going to be

1990
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 5: Remember she was going to be the number one pick

1991
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 5: because he looked great in shorts and through the ball

1992
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 5: a mile, like, yeah, I come on, guys, let's let's

1993
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 5: get real here. But I think he got some information that, yeah,

1994
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,919
Speaker 5: you're kind of a fourth quarterback out of the four here, Anthony,

1995
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,839
Speaker 5: And I think he got I don't want to say desperate,

1996
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 5: but I like how you framed it.

1997
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: It does hint of desperation.

1998
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 5: But I think Anthony is a is a quality kid,

1999
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 5: and he's like, what can I do to get this

2000
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 5: back on track? I was supposed to be you know,

2001
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 5: they were talking about me maybe being the number one pick,

2002
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 5: and now I'm the fourth guy out of these four,

2003
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 5: Like what happened? And so it was kind of interesting.

2004
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 5: I'm reading the letter now. He literally named all of

2005
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 5: the things that the critics are saying. I don't have touch,

2006
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 5: they can't throw short, I gotta it's It does kind

2007
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 5: of give me a bad taste in my mouth if

2008
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 5: I was a GM looking at him, and it's kind

2009
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 5: of a poker player. It always goes back to poker

2010
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 5: with the NFL draft, shoving all of his chips into

2011
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 5: the middle and everyone at the table's like, we know

2012
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 5: you have nothing there, buddy. I'm gonna call and this

2013
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 5: guy's gonna call and you're gonna call and you're gonna

2014
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 5: have to show your hand. And I respect Anthony wanting

2015
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 5: to put himself out there. I respect that in this

2016
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 5: day and age, but I think the timing of this

2017
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,759
Speaker 5: was not ideal. You don't beg teams a week before

2018
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,759
Speaker 5: the draft please draft me. If your tape and your

2019
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 5: pre draft stuff didn't do it by now, there is

2020
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 5: nothing that these teams are going to look at at

2021
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 5: this stage and say, yup, we were wrong on Anthony.

2022
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 5: We got to give them a chance. It It doesn't

2023
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:25,719
Speaker 5: really there's no upside.

2024
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 1: You're right.

2025
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 5: There's only downside here because you're putting yourself out there

2026
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 5: and you're basically giving stock to all of the critical

2027
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 5: things that people are saying about you. You're telling me

2028
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 5: that you're hearing this noise and it affects you because

2029
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 5: you're worried that you're falling, and it just not a

2030
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 5: great look. I think at this stage of the process, guys.

2031
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 2: No interesting.

2032
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 3: I just think that sometimes less is more. Yeah, if

2033
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 3: you're going to go down this road and write a letter,

2034
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 3: I just think of Michael Jordan. You brought that up

2035
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 3: Rich where the famous I'm back. Yeah, it was it

2036
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 3: a fax. I think it was a facts when he

2037
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 3: returned from his first retire. What if Anthony Richardson penned

2038
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 3: an open letter to the player's tribute and it just

2039
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 3: said pass on me and regret it, love it.

2040
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 4: And that's it.

2041
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 3: That's the only thing it wrote. Like that would stick

2042
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 3: with you a little bit more.

2043
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 5: But hey, I'm coming instead of I'm back, like here

2044
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 5: I come, like two words I'm coming.

2045
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, you might rethink that many to

2046
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,080
Speaker 3: rephrase the word in there, but I just think of

2047
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 3: it this way.

2048
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 4: Even even something like that that could even come off

2049
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 4: as like, you know, wow, this guy really has an ego,

2050
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

2051
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 1: Like that's true.

2052
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 4: My concern is whether you pen and I read the

2053
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 4: letter and I thought it was well written. I thought

2054
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 4: it gave a lot of background, and I thought I

2055
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 4: thought a lot of the story he told and I

2056
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 4: and I think that this is a thoughtful person. But

2057
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 4: there's a lot of teams that don't like they don't,

2058
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 4: they don't They're not looking for a guy who's going

2059
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:58,599
Speaker 4: to constantly be concentrating on what article writers say about.

2060
01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 3: Sure, you know, and you go back to think about

2061
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 3: Josh Rosen when he was taken tenth overall and he's

2062
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 3: nine teams made a mistake ahead of me and they'll

2063
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 3: regret it.

2064
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 2: And yeah, it just turned out to be words. It

2065
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: didn't mean anything.

2066
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it stems from what you

2067
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 3: think of the player initially, you know what I mean.

2068
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 3: If you're not completely sold on Anthony Richardson being the

2069
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 3: next big thing in the NFL, I think the letter

2070
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 3: might seem a little like that's kind of desperate for you.

2071
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 3: And I hear you, rich I definitely do hear you

2072
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 3: on that. But if you're convinced this guy is the

2073
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 3: next big thing, you might feel the letter is a

2074
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 3: little bit different. You know. I think some of it

2075
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 3: stems from how you evaluate the player to begin with.

2076
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I one hundred I could not agree with you more.

2077
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 4: I do agree with that fact, and I even said

2078
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 4: it at first, like, you know, this may work on

2079
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 4: one or two front offices and that's all you need

2080
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 4: is just one. But at the same token, this does

2081
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 4: offer more information, and not really in any positive way

2082
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 4: in my mind. Now you might say, well, this is

2083
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 4: a supremely motivated athlete, and maybe that's a positive you

2084
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 4: could get out of it, or and frankly more likely

2085
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 4: with most people who read this letter, you say, well,

2086
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 4: there's a tinge of desperation here, and maybe this is

2087
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 4: a guy with rabbit ears, you know, maybe maybe he's

2088
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 4: a little too sensitive to, you know, some of the

2089
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 4: pressures that mount during the draft process. Well, if he

2090
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 4: thinks that this is a pressureized situation, right, just wait

2091
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 4: until week eight of the NFL season and you're two

2092
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 4: and six and you're not playing particularly well. Are you

2093
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:40,600
Speaker 4: going to crack under that pressure? Is there going to

2094
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 4: be another letter you're gonna write like what are we

2095
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 4: doing here? Bub?

2096
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 3: You know, I just remember Russell Westbrook saying he's and

2097
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, he's been blessed with the art of not

2098
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 3: giving an F. You know there's something to that, right.

2099
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 3: I don't deal with criticism very well. That's just been

2100
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 3: a trait throughout my life. I can't imagine being an

2101
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:07,719
Speaker 3: Anthony richardson shoes and hearing negative stuff on the daily,

2102
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm such a competitive maniac.

2103
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,200
Speaker 3: I probably would have written ten letters by now, you

2104
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But there is something too just

2105
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 3: tuning that out. That is a skill.

2106
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 4: It is a thick skin, rhino hyde, you know, all

2107
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 4: those things that they.

2108
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 5: All hide they talk about.

2109
01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 4: Man, it's it's like it's it's part. It's an ingredient.

2110
01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 4: It's not the whole story. Obviously, you need talent. You

2111
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 4: need to have the you know, the rocket propelled grenade

2112
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 4: arm that he has, and the athleticism and the size

2113
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 4: and the you know, the ability to recover and the

2114
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 4: lack of injury and you know, the brain to you know,

2115
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 4: process at a high level. All these things are important

2116
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 4: to be a quarterback. But you also need to be

2117
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,480
Speaker 4: mentally tough. You need to be able to hear criticism

2118
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:56,879
Speaker 4: and treat it as if somebody was blowing you kisses

2119
01:48:56,920 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 4: from across the room, like it just doesn't matter, should

2120
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 4: have no effect on you. And and like I said,

2121
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 4: I don't think this necessarily hurts him in the eyes

2122
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,839
Speaker 4: of talent evaluators. I'm sure most people are just like, eh,

2123
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 4: you know whatever, he wrote a letter. But it can

2124
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 4: it can hurt. It can hurt you if somebody is

2125
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 4: going to do the deep dive or you know, you're

2126
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 4: splitting hairs between two prospects and you go, yeah, you know,

2127
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 4: I didn't love the letter. I gotta be honest with you,

2128
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 4: Like that's that's kind of the worry there.

2129
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 3: You know, if I is a glowing kron wrote a letter,

2130
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 3: I'd read that thing from cover to cover. Yea what

2131
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying, it could be uh, all ten chapters long.

2132
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,919
Speaker 2: We'd read the whole thing. I low with the latest.

2133
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 6: I'd love to see prospects write why you shouldn't draft me?

2134
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: What's your biggest weakness?

2135
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 6: Much more entertaining.

2136
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,799
Speaker 1: I work too hard, guys, I care too much.

2137
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 6: Your NFL gms. I know you do background searches. But

2138
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:58,679
Speaker 6: here's something that I did three weeks ago that you'll

2139
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 6: never find. I mean, that would be much more entertainment.

2140
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:06,439
Speaker 1: That would be amazing. Yeah, it's called Twitter, Isaac basically

2141
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 1: every day.

2142
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 4: I mean it would be actually true, really cool if

2143
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Speaker 4: they all had to write a letter just so like.

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Speaker 5: Under the oh yeah class project, like instead of the wonderlick,

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01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:18,719
Speaker 5: like we have to read essays from each.

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Speaker 6: Actually come to think of him, maybe Laramie Tunsel already

2147
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 6: did that back today turned out fine, all's a turning

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01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 6: out fine the fortunes of the Minnesota Timberwolves. They won

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01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 6: the eighth seed of the Western Conference on Friday night,

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01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,640
Speaker 6: with a one twenty to ninety five win over the

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Speaker 6: Oklahoma City thunder So they will open up the NBA

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01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 6: playoffs at one seed Denver on Sunday night. Meanwhile, Miami

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01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 6: captured the eighth seed in the Eastern Conference. They beat

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Speaker 6: the Chicago Bulls one o two to ninety one. They'll

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01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 6: face one seed Milwaukee out of the Eastern Round one

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01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,559
Speaker 6: on Sunday. The playoffs tip off at one pm Eastern,

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01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:57,520
Speaker 6: approximately eighty two minutes from now. Is three seed Philadelphia

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01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 6: hosts the sixth seeded Brooklyn Nets. Major League Baseball on

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01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:04,479
Speaker 6: Friday night, the Tampa Bay Rays finally lost for the

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01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 6: first time this year after a thirteen and oh start.

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01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 6: The Toronto Blue Jays got him six to three. Yan

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Speaker 6: Gomes of the Cubs two home runs and there eighty

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01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 6: two went over the Dodgers in Los Angeles. Dodgers now

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01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,400
Speaker 6: just seven and seven. Seattle's Jared Kell Niccolbert for a

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Speaker 6: fourth straight game as the Mariners beat the Colorado Rockies

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01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 6: five to three. Milwaukee's Rowdy Telez hit two home runs

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Speaker 6: and the Brewers will love it a two victory at

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Speaker 6: San Diego and the Mets one in Oakland seventeen to

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01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 6: six Francisco Lindor a Grand Slam and seven RBIs. The

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Speaker 6: Mets also in that game through a franchise record seventeen

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01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 6: walks fellas we walk it back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I Low. I love your idea.

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01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 3: By the way of here's all the illegal stuff I

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01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 3: got away with an open letter to NFL gms. Be

2175
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 3: very entertaining right now. I wouldn't anticipate that coming, but

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01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 3: I do like that idea.

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Speaker 1: Hold your breath on that right there.

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Speaker 3: You know what, real fast, I'm looking at CJ. Stroud

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01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 3: and just to you know, dip the big toe in

2180
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 3: the waters over here. I'm just looking at the weapons

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01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 3: he was surrounded by at Ohio State, and not just

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01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 3: his fortress of an offensive line, which obviously matters, but

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01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 3: the weapons he threw to So think about this. This

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01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 3: was two seasons ago. He had Garrett Wilson Offensive Rookie

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01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 3: of the Year with the Jets, Chris Olave over a

2186
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 3: thousand yards receiving rookie season for the Saints, and Jackson

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01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 3: Smith and Jigba Jackson Smith and Jigba at Ohio State

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01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 3: two seasons ago, ninety five catches for over sixteen hundred

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01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 3: yards and nine touchdowns with Garrett Wilson and Chris Olave.

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01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 3: Those were his three guys two seasons ago. Last year

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01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 3: it was mainly Marvin Harrison Junior, who was a stud a.

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01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 3: Mecca Buca is a very good wide receiver like that's

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01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 3: who he's had the last two years.

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Speaker 1: Elite running backs too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you go from that to either the Panthers,

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01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 3: the Texans, some other team that's not blessed with nearly

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01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 3: as much talent picking in the top five, that to

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01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 3: me is absolute culture shock right there. And I am

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Speaker 3: I'm fascinated to see how CJ. Stroud does at a

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01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 3: higher level, much higher level in the NFL compared to

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Speaker 3: college with a supporting cast that's much lesser than what

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01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 3: he's used to. That to me is I can't wait

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01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 3: to see how that plays out.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very curious to see how a lot of

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01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 4: these quarterbacks respond and react to the circumstances they're foisted into.

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01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,600
Speaker 4: Because most of the time, not always, but most of

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01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 4: the time, if you're a high level draft pick in

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Speaker 4: the NFL at quarterback, you're going to a very bad

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01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 4: team or a team that is a little bit torn

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01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 4: down and is looking to rebuild and may may may

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01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 4: not have all the ingredients to make the stow just yet.

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01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,879
Speaker 4: And I will say this though about receivers in the NFL.

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01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 4: All of them had crazy numbers in college. Otherwise they

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01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 4: wouldn't be in the NFL. And that's not true to

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01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 4: a man. Obviously, there's exceptions that prove every rule. But

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01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 4: but all of them are talented. They're they're in the

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01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 4: NFL because they're talented. Now does their talent shine through

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01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 4: as much as it did during their college days? In

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01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 4: certain cases, no, because now you're matched with the best

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01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 4: talent defensively you've ever witnessed, and some guys really start

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01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 4: to pail in comparison to the person they were in college,

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01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 4: but with a better quarterback, like for example, you know,

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01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 4: Miami with Tua looks a lot better than Miami without Tua.

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01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 4: You know, those those receivers Tyreek Hill, you know they're

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01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 4: these guys are getting way They're getting way more opportunities

2227
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 4: to catch the ball with him as opposed to his backups.

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01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 4: You know, same thing with the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson.

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01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 4: You know, Mark Andrews is a great tight end, but

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01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 4: he looks a lot better better when Lamar Jackson is

2231
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 4: healthy and the understudies aren't in you know. So I

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01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 4: feel that way about NFL wide outs on teams that

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01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 4: are desperate for quarterback help. Like we may not see

2234
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 4: how talented a wide receiver is until he's paired with

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01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:21,320
Speaker 4: a great quarterback. Just think about the Julian Edelman's of

2236
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 4: the world or the Wes Welkers of the world during

2237
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 4: Tom Brady's time in New England, Like we wouldn't know

2238
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 4: their names if it weren't for Tom Brady. And that's

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01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 4: happened time and time again across NFL history.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love I love the quarterback debate. I think

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01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 5: when you get to this stage of the draft process,

2242
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:46,520
Speaker 5: there you start to really dissect what each team like,

2243
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 5: the profile of each team, and where those landing spots

2244
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 5: can kind of slot these guys in. And maybe that's

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01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 5: why Strouds dropped here. Maybe maybe that's why the Bryce

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01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 5: Young situation has become so so firm and secure, at

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01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 5: least in the odds market, that we're really putting him

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01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 5: above all of the other guys.

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Speaker 1: And listen, Bryce Young had a heck of an offensive

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Speaker 1: line and.

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Speaker 5: Maybe not as good as receiver talent this year as

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01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 5: in prior years, but still very good receiver talent. So

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01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 5: I feel pretty secure based off of everything I've seen

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01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:23,879
Speaker 5: with these four quarterbacks pre draft during their college careers,

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Speaker 5: that Bryce Young is the one guy that I would

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01:56:26,160 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 5: the only guy of that bunch that I would be

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Speaker 5: willing to draft first overall.

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Speaker 3: All right, He's Jared Smith, the FSR betting analyst, Rich

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01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 3: Ornberger with us Penn State, All American. He wears tight

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01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 3: black T shirts from time to time. I'm Brian now

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01:56:40,160 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 3: coming up, who looks the same in which teams look

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01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 3: different in the postseason. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here

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Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Got it to Jimmy, Jimmy working on the vat pump bake.

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Speaker 2: It's underneath, cut.

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01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 6: It up, got it, got the bucket.

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01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: And the fowl book. Butler did it.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in.

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Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday Live from the tyrack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: ninety The Ticket, Miami and the Heat Radio Network. Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Buckets in the Miami Heat moving past my Bulls. Bulls

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01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 3: out of the playoffs. Yeah, it didn't quite make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I guess out of the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Top boles.

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Speaker 3: Props to the crew here, Ryan Berschinger, our trusted producer.

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Speaker 2: Back with the slumming it around on a Saturday again,

2282
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 2: waking up early. What's going on over here?

2283
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 3: Iowa Sam technical producer Isaac Lowencron. Outstanding job on the updates,

2284
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 3: Top of the Hour, up on game, LaVar Arrington, TJ. Huschman,

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01:57:56,040 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 3: Zada Plexico Buris. All right, guys, NBA playoffs officially start today.

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01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 3: The stats count. It's been a running joke that the

2287
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 3: play in stuff doesn't count statistically. It's weird. I don't

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01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:08,879
Speaker 3: know why they do that, but one of the questions

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01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 3: I have will things look the same with certain teams

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01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 3: or different with certain teams in the postseason. Take the

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01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 3: Kings against the Warriors. The King's third best in the

2292
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:22,919
Speaker 3: Western Conference, a lot of wins, a lot of success.

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01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,600
Speaker 3: Can they maintain that now that we're here in the postseason?

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01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 3: Warriors the opposite eleven and thirty on the road. Can

2295
01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 3: they win on the road? Is that gonna be different

2296
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 3: in the postseason? Can't wait for this matchup. I'm gonna

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01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 3: take the over one to seventeen first half total. Neither

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01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 3: team are playing great defense, especially the Kings, so I

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01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 3: think it gonna be a lot of points scored.

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Speaker 2: Jared, what are you looking at today, Buddy?

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01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 5: I kind of like the over in this Boston Atlanta game.

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01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 5: Boston's defensive rating hasn't been as good as maybe you

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01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 5: would think, and the Atlanta's defense has just been so

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01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 5: bad all season long, so I think that's an interesting look.

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Speaker 5: I think the keep things close early here in game one.

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01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:04,800
Speaker 5: I think the series goes to Philly, but I could

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01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 5: see the Nets here catch an eight and a half

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01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 5: in Philly's defensive rating whenever Harden's in the game, he's

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01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 5: played has not been good. And I like the Knicks

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01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 5: plus one and a half games in the series. I'll

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01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 5: think the Knicks to win the series two. But no

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01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 5: opinion on this specific Game one here tonight. And I

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01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 5: agree with your take on the Kings and the Warriors, Brian.

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Speaker 4: I don't love any of the games tonight. But I

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01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:30,200
Speaker 4: do love two futures bets, both revolving around the suns.

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01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 4: No pun intended there, but yeah, plus four fifty I think,

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01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, little little Solar.

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01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 3: I love the Solar system humor right there, orbital humor

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01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 3: plus plus four fifty to win the championship.

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01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 4: Sign me up for that. And also I could see

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01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 4: the Sun sweeping this series and you could get plus

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01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,920
Speaker 4: three eighty on that nice against the Clippers, so that

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01:59:55,920 --> 02:00:00,200
Speaker 4: tips off tomorrow night, and yeah, I think that that's

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Speaker 4: where I would lay my money in terms of NBA futures.

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Speaker 4: Right now, let's go, and.

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Speaker 3: It should be a lot of fun. We look forward

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Speaker 3: to more Solar system humor next week.

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Speaker 2: Have a good one.