1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: It is Sunday, March twenty second, and we have a 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 2: new statement from the Guthrie family. 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: They are desperate for help from the public from. 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: The police, saying that they cannot grieve, They simply cannot 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: do anything until they get some answers about where their 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: missing mom is. And my goodness, I cannot believe that 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: we are now closed arounding two months and we still 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: don't know what happened to eighty four year old Nancy Guthrie. 10 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: And with that, everyone, thank you for joining us on 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: this episode of Amy and TJ. This is a statement 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: that just breaks your heart. 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: Frankly, they're essentially saying, hey, don't forget about us, and 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: we get that. This is what so many families across 15 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: the country deal with when they have somebody missing in 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: their family. They don't get attention. They are screaming for 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: attention on day one, day two, day three, week one, 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: week two. And now it's gotten to a point where 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: one of the biggest stories in the country has now 20 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 3: faded from the headlines because there hasn't been a development 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: that's true. 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: And so look, they have strategically the family, the siblings 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: been putting out statements making videos trying to just reignite 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: the focus and the attention that they have certainly lost. 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: But my goodness, they had it. This story gripped the 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: nation for at least a solid two weeks. 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: There were developments. There just haven't been in a while. 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: Oh there were stuff, fair enough, there was high profile 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: and whatnot, But there were developments, there were movements. Was 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: it week two? 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: It three tops, But last time there was a significant 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: update or movement on this case is the last one 34 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: I can remember. It's been a while. 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: It's been a long time, and so you forget, well 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: we forget because they're living this every day and wondering 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: what's next. And you know, it's one thing to grieve someone. 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: It's one thing to have the worst case scenario be 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: made known to you that your loved one has been killed, 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: your loved one is no longer here. 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: But at least you can move on, at least there 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: is closure, at. 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Least there is preparation and just formalities to go through. 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: There's a reason why we have wakes and funerals because 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: there's a need to. 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Put a closure on trauma. 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 2: And for the Guthrie family, they don't have that at all, 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: and so many. I mean, I've always thought about this 49 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: as we've covered stories throughout our career. The worst possible 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: situation is the not knowing, and that's exactly where they 51 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: are right now. 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: And this is different from not having a body to bury. 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: This is different from even losing someone Frankly on nine 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: to eleven and never remains were never found, or someone 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 3: losing someone on the battlefield and remains were never found. 56 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: The kind of a thing you knew what happened to 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: that person, even if you don't have the remains to 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: bury and to have a place to go visit to mourn. 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: This is a situation. They don't even know what happened 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: to her. Even if she is we could still hope 61 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: that she's not. But even if she has passed on, 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: they still have no idea who took her, why where 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: she went, if she suffered. Frankly, they don't even know 64 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: for sure if she's passed. 65 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: Right, and all of those the whys and the whats 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: are just so puzzling because there is no logical answer. 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: I think that's the other reason why. 68 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: Yes, of course, Savannah Guthrie is the co host of 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: The Today Show, and that raised it to a whole 70 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: other level, but just on a human level, just as 71 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: a family, like an eighty four year old woman goes missing, 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: there's a mass man with a gun on the porch, 73 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: and why like that? I think is one of the 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: main reasons why folks were so invested in this. Because 75 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: everyone either has a mother or a loved one and 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: you don't consider them at risk for violent crimes. It's 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: not something that's on most of our radars. And so 78 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: the puzzling part of this was just the whole concept 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: of who would do this and for what purpose if 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: it wasn't for money, if it wasn't for ransom, It's 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: really hard to understand, and that, obviously, I'm sure contributes 82 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: to the police's conundrum in terms of not having a 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: mode of not having an obvious suspect someone to try 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: to track down. 85 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: They don't have any of that as far as we know, 86 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: and they. 87 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: Haven't given us any significant updates about the case in 88 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: a while. But we have heard from the Savannah guth 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 3: Three family. I should say this, the Guthrie family, her 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: her two siblings have put out statements sporadically here and 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: there probably at least up to five six that we've 92 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: seen throughout in the last major one was a couple 93 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: of weeks ago when they offered a one million dollar reward. Now, 94 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: if you offer somebody a million dollars, no questions asked, 95 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: and still you can't get a significant update that it 96 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: again raises questions about what in God's name happened to 97 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: this lady. But we did hear from the Guthrie family 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: putting out another statement and making it clear, Yes, we're 99 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: trying to keep this in the headlines. Please don't forget 100 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: about her. But this is a statement that's come out 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: now as we sit here. As we speak, it is 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: seven weeks ago today. That's Nancy Guthrie went missing seven 103 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: weeks ago today. So this is the message we've gotten 104 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: from her family now this weekend, for I guess really 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: just renewed interest and attention they're asking for for the case. 106 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: Yes, So here is what the Guthrie family has said today. 107 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: We are deeply grateful for the outpouring from neighbors, friends, 108 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: and the people of Tucson. We are all family. 109 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: Now. 110 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: We continue to believe it is Tusonians and the greater 111 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: Southern Arizona community that hold the key to finding resolution 112 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: in this case someone knows something. It's possible a member 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: of this community has information that they do not even 114 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: realize is significant. We hope people search their memories, especially 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: around the key timelines of January thirty first and the 116 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: early morning hours of February first, as well as the 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: late evening of January eleventh. We desperately ask this community 118 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: for renewed attention to our mom's case. Please consult camera footage, 119 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: journal notes, text messages, observations or conversations that in retrospect 120 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: may hold significance. No detail is too small, it may 121 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: be the key. We miss our mom with every breath, 122 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: and we cannot be in peace until she is home. 123 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: We cannot grieve, We can only ache and wonder. Our 124 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: focus is solely on finding her and bringing her home. 125 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: We want to celebrate her beautiful and courageous life, but 126 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: we cannot do that until she is brought to a 127 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: final place of rest. Thank you for continuing to pray 128 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: without ceasing. They signed it the Guthrie family, but they 129 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: also said the names of the couples. I thought instead 130 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: of just having the three siblings, they said Cameron and Christine, 131 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: Annie and Tamaso, Savannah and Michael. I thought, Look, we 132 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: have seen in the last several statements from Savannah, this 133 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: acknowledgement that they understand that it's probably more likely than 134 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: not that their mother is no longer alive. And this 135 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: certainly felt like that as well in this statement that 136 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: they are wanting, basically begging to be able to give 137 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: their mom a funeral. 138 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: That is what that message sounded. 139 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: Like to me. Everybody, everybody wants a final resting place. 140 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: You want, you have to have that, and again, if 141 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: it's not recoverable, if you're in a situation I think 142 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: about war, I think about again nine to eleven, as 143 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: morbid as that is, if you're not able to recover. Still, 144 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: to this day, they have been identifying remains of people 145 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: who died at the nine to eleven attacks. You think 146 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: about those families. When you know someone is lost, you 147 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: certainly still want to be able to give them a 148 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: final resting place robes. But they're not even there, They're 149 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: not even close to that. They have zero clue it 150 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: happened to this woman. That's a different type of torment 151 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: you have to deal with the rest of your life. 152 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: Everybody who's listening to our voices, robe just lost somebody 153 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: before and that's painful, that hurts, that's awful, and you 154 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: have to find a way to move on in life 155 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: with that person gone. I don't know how you move 156 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: on with having zero clue, no clue of what happened 157 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: to me. 158 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, think about all the people who've lost loved ones, 159 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: not even to a violent crime, but want autopsies, right, 160 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: We always want answers. We want to know how someone died, 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: why they died, what we could have done to prevent it, 162 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: how we could make sure it doesn't happen to us. 163 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: It's just a human experience to want to know the why, 164 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: and they don't have any of that. And yet, despite 165 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: all of that mystery and all of that desperate search 166 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: for answers, the sheriff, we should probably say, the embattled 167 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,239 Speaker 2: sheriff now who has led this investigation into the disappearance 168 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: of Nancy Guthrie, actually sat down with local reporters over 169 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: the last couple of days giving our long interviews. And 170 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: so we will tell you what Sheriff Nanos had to 171 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: say about where this investigation stands when we come back 172 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: and welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, 173 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: where we are discussing the latest newest statement from the 174 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:50,359 Speaker 2: Guthrie family essentially as we've seen in other statements, begging, imploring, 175 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: asking the folks in Tucson and in the greater Southwest 176 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: Arizona area to just continue to think, look back, check 177 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 2: out your videos. Actually they even said, look at your journals, 178 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: look at any conversations you may have had. Something you 179 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: didn't think was significant. May actually be the break in 180 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: the case that this family has been waiting for. 181 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: That is where they are. 182 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: Which sounds very sad and not like it's gotten really 183 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: any advancement in terms of knowledge about where they are, 184 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: what happened, what police have found. And look, when you 185 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: take a look at all of these interviews. The sheriff 186 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: there did several of them, and even though he said 187 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: they're not even close to having this be a cold case, 188 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: it kind of sounds like that's where it's headed. Unfortunately, 189 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: because there just wasn't any big new development. 190 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: We haven't had a press conference for. 191 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: Well, oh, I mean nott a press conference, but even 192 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: an update within like yeah, and yes, what do we have? 193 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: How many press conferences did he actually even give? And 194 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: that's it? 195 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 2: And he has certainly been the topic of a lot 196 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: of finger pointing, and there are just some other issues 197 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: with his position that he's dealing with outside of the 198 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: Guthrie investigation. But he said a few things. It didn't 199 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: sound super hopeful. He said, we have some DNA that 200 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: we think is still workable. He said that there are 201 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: labs around the country and forensic examiners that are still 202 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: going through what he called thousands of hours of video 203 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: footage that he says they still have to soar through. So, yes, 204 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: it may be seven weeks since she went missing, but 205 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: certainly all of that security footage from neighbors, from businesses 206 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: around the area, that's a painstaking process to go through. 207 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: All of that. 208 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: And maybe, as we all want answers, and certainly the 209 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: Guthrie family wants answers as soon as possible, sometimes it 210 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: just takes a lot longer than we wanted to. 211 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: But ro Yes, we've covered countless trials. We watch a 212 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: lot of hell, we watch a lot of actual trials 213 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: in the courtroom, we see everybody sees the true crime 214 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: dramas and all stuff and true crime stories. All this 215 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: stuff is out there, Robes. All the attention of the 216 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: country was on this one case, and seven weeks later 217 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: we're in the exact same spot of having no clue 218 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: where this woman is. 219 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine that that masked man we saw 220 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: on that porch. I am still in shock that no 221 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: one recognized him or his demeanor, his eyes, his what 222 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: he was wearing, his backpack, just we even saw him 223 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: walking back and forth, like that's shocking to me that 224 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: no one with a million dollars dangling without having to 225 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: actually even at that point, we don't even have to 226 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 2: have an arrest. That money, according to the Guthrie family, 227 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: is simply to know where their beloved mom is, where 228 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: where she is located. They just want to bring her 229 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 2: back alive or dead, no questions asked, and still no 230 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: one's talking. 231 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: That is shocking. 232 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: Well, time can tell. Maybe things will change over time. 233 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: It's usually time. It's difficult with things like this. We 234 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: assume somebody knows somebody. I thought about the dB Cooper story, 235 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: these big mysteries we've had, like, how is it possible 236 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: that so many people are trying to solve this particular 237 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: case or crime, and these mysteries go on forever. Sometimes 238 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: it's this is new, it's seven weeks. Arrows, I don't know, 239 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: we shouldn't be thinking that. But we know it is 240 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: possible that crimes go unsolved, even high profile ones, because 241 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: we've seen the Netflix documentaries. Cases not being solved just 242 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: seems unfathomable that could happen. 243 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: And yet it has. 244 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: And look, we hear the sheriff saying that a breakthrough 245 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: could happen at any time. He says, a real breakthrough. 246 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: And that is true because as they're hunting down these 247 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: leads and they're going through the surveillance video, it's a 248 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: needle in a haystack, and so maybe they find that 249 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: needle today, tomorrow, a week from now. But this is 250 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: interesting because he did acknowledge the sheriff did acknowledge that 251 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: while initially they had hundreds of people obviously searching for her, 252 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: including the FBI, they had all hands on deck. President 253 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: Trump even was saying, whatever the Guthrie family needs, whatever 254 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: the investigation needs, we're here for it. But he did 255 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: acknowledge that now that team has been consolidated to about 256 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: a team of twenty investigators, that's a big difference, as 257 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: a far cry from what they originally had on the case. 258 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: But he did say, look, if something happens, if there's 259 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: some development, if we find something. 260 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Of course, we'll be able. 261 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: To add more resources to this team, but you know 262 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: that does say a lot. They're now down to less 263 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: than two dozen folks who are solely working on this case. 264 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: But yes, I mean, unfortunately, as awful as it sounds, 265 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: crime does go on, life does go on. They can't 266 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: have a devoted team solely to just looking at what 267 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: happened to Nancy Guthrie. They have obviously plenty of other 268 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: things that are going on as we speak that they 269 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: can't logistically financially stay at the level they were at 270 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: looking for Nancy Guthrie. And so that's where we are 271 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: right now, and that is certainly where you can see 272 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: and hear the desperation in the Guthrie family with their 273 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: latest statement begging people to just keep searching their brains, 274 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: searching their memories, searching their video surveillance, and just whatever 275 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: they can do think of to say, to call into 276 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: this tip line. Maybe someone will have an answer that 277 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: we've all been looking for for the past seven weeks. 278 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: We'll continue, of course, to follow the story, keep you updated. 279 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: If anything major develops, of course, will be on it 280 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: right away. We always appreciate you listening to us I 281 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: made Roback alongside TJ. Holmes. 282 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon.