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Speaker 1: The final week of the season of Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: I'm a nervous wreck. Mets and the Cubs are seven

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Speaker 1: to seven, bottom of the seventh and if the Mets win,

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Speaker 1: they take over the final wild card And I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: here going what kind of deal with the devil? Did

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Speaker 1: the Guardians make twelve and a half games. They were

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Speaker 1: out about a month or so ago, and now they're

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Speaker 1: tied with the Tigers. Like, that's gonna be one hell

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Speaker 1: of a bill when it comes to Mike Harmon, I

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Speaker 1: tell you what the guardians gave him, But it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be one hell of a bill.

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Speaker 3: How do you get such a faustian deal your own

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Speaker 3: damn self, that's what you're asking right now? Seven seven's

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Speaker 3: all over. The plays bottom of seven two on two out.

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Speaker 3: Manager will make a pitching change, so we go to

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Speaker 3: the commercial break as you have to sweat it out

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Speaker 3: a little bit longer. But a pretty wild game, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean the wild circumstances coming down to this final week.

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Speaker 3: We've got a dead heat in the al MVP betting

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Speaker 3: odds coming into tonight's game. We've got all these playoff juxtaposition.

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Speaker 3: We've got Schoolbles supposed to be the guy, gonna be

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Speaker 3: the stopper, Gonna build a statue to him outside. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be of him hiking a ball like he's well

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Speaker 3: juggling or something like that, or or a long schnapper

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Speaker 3: on one of those many blocked field goals from Sunday's

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Speaker 3: NFL action. Either way, just a wild final week ahead

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Speaker 3: for us here in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Tigers may never win again. I

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Speaker 1: mean really, that's that's kind of what this is. They

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Speaker 1: may never win again. Won their last game I mean forever,

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Speaker 1: but forever they maybe done.

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Speaker 3: Like if the Guardian used the documentary they really need, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you go find who's the ambissary of the devil that

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Speaker 3: they can't that the Guardians came up and made the.

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Speaker 1: Twelve and a half games. Not only the Guardians making

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Speaker 1: this up, but now the Tigers can't win. I mean

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Speaker 1: this this is go for the Gusto man, go for

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Speaker 1: the go for the Gusto.

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Speaker 3: Miracle mats of nineteen sixty nine on steroids.

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Speaker 1: I read, I read. I read a book not too

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Speaker 1: long ago. Was it? The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue?

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Speaker 1: What v Schwap really good? Right?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: I read all the time because I'm I'm that guy.

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Speaker 1: And the book was a she meets a couple of

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Speaker 1: characters over the course of her life that made these

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Speaker 1: Faustian bargains with the devil, and they both made the

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Speaker 1: bargains for you know, some kind of great life. And

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Speaker 1: the first guy made it for eternity, right, like he

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Speaker 1: met the devil, whoever it was, and he meant, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want this kind of life in this this for eternity,

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Speaker 1: and the devil granted it to him, whoever it was.

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Speaker 1: And then the other guys. She meets how long did

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Speaker 1: you get? And he goes three years? Three years? How

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Speaker 1: do you only get three years? You gave him your

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Speaker 1: soul for eternal damnation and you're only getting three years

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Speaker 1: out of it. So like, go big if you're the Guardians, Man,

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Speaker 1: go big, go big, get everything. Tigers never win again,

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Speaker 1: schoobl is no longer, He's never gonna win again. Oh,

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Speaker 1: just keep going, man, go all the way.

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Speaker 3: Well, but that's just it. You really need to ask

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Speaker 3: I guess this is what we're getting ready for here.

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Speaker 3: If if history is to be believed, right, of all

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Speaker 1: Man, And again Mets and Cubs are tied seven seven

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna take it down to the final day

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Speaker 1: Please do it the next couple of days. Doesn't don't

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Speaker 1: it early. If you're gonna do it, well, didn't do

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Speaker 3: in the seventh, we'll go to the eighth tide seven

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Speaker 1: Once at once a met, right, once met.

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Speaker 3: When you're a met, you're always yeah, well you talk

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Speaker 3: about a tail of two halves, man. One of the

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Speaker 3: more curious things ever, Right, Normally bad ball swinging guys

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Speaker 3: they have their come up and so it just doesn't

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Speaker 3: The highlight of this game was John mulaney Sittingdacious College

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was not. I really would rather him if

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Speaker 1: Bear from the Bear like that would have been better

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Speaker 1: than the is he still he's still holding the fork?

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Speaker 1: to us well over a month ago. It is now official.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are benching Russell Wilson Jackson Dart will start instead.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Hey, no soft landing. You're

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Speaker 1: Good luck, Jackson Dart. Look, this is something we told

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Speaker 1: It's all Jackson Dart and no momentum of any kind

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Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson once they traded for Dart, and Dart

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, do I need to be in that

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Speaker 1: no cachet and once she's once it was the Wilson

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Speaker 1: want to save their jobs. We've talked about this everything

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Speaker 1: ones that can coach the hell out of this guy.

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Speaker 1: We're the ones that take you the next you know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's injury or ineffect us. We's already had four

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Speaker 1: it also makes sense now if you believe that and

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Speaker 1: to how Jameis Winston is still on that team because

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Speaker 1: when you trade Russell Wilson, okay, you're looking for a

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Speaker 1: So it makes sense this is why Jameis Winston is

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart he's gonna start, but I'm telling you Wilson's

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston is still on the team. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I really hope that teams come looking for Jamis instead.

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Speaker 3: we don't want that guy. No, no, no, we want the

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Speaker 1: All right, at least that was so good. You could

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Speaker 5: I have no relatives in this game. I can't get in.

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Speaker 5: It did travel four hundred and three feet at Wrigley Field. Wow,

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Speaker 5: The Wildcard series, the best of three they each begin

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431
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Speaker 1: this is a team that went to what a Bowlgate

432
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Speaker 1: eighteen years in a row. Yes, a tough last couple

433
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Speaker 1: of years. And I'm not saying it was wrong to say, hey,

434
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Speaker 1: after this year, we need to move on because maybe

435
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Speaker 1: you know, we need we need some new energy. And

436
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Speaker 1: I understand it, but this guy's been there two decades, man,

437
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Speaker 1: and it feels like they they just did him all wrong.

438
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Speaker 1: From the we're letting him go now to letting him

439
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Speaker 1: do his final press conference making him look bad and

440
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Speaker 1: talk about his contract and and and everything that goes

441
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Speaker 1: along with it. I mean, this is I mean, I

442
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Speaker 1: feel like, Oho, what are you doing? Man? Like I

443
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Speaker 1: understand that the need we want to move on, but

444
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Speaker 1: this guy's more than just hey, he's been here for

445
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Speaker 1: five years, you know, and and and well, don't worry someone,

446
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: the new coach will rent his house when he comes in.

447
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: Like this guy is synonymous with the school. Like you say,

448
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State football. Two names come to mind, Barry Sanders

449
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: and Mike Gundy. Right, that's it. Two names, Barry Sanders,

450
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 1: Myke Gunny. That's Oklahoma State football. Right, that's it. And

451
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 1: so to see this, I feel like, wow, man, they

452
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Speaker 1: really did the guy wrong. He won ten games, like

453
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Speaker 1: like seven or eight times with with Oklahoma State, and

454
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Speaker 1: this is how he gets done here.

455
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Speaker 3: At the end, Well, I think some of it, you know,

456
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Speaker 3: going back to the thing with the Oregon about how

457
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Speaker 3: much money they spend and all the improvements and everything

458
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Speaker 3: they've got rolling that you know, hey, we're gonna get

459
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Speaker 3: get our clocks cleaned, probably didn't help because now you're

460
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Speaker 3: embarrassing your boosters and people that support the programs, like,

461
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Speaker 3: all right, we're giving you a lot of stuff, and

462
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Speaker 3: you're telling us that you know, it's a pittance, which

463
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Speaker 3: on a relative basis it may very well be. I mean,

464
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Speaker 3: check the books, those that you can find, and then

465
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Speaker 3: the second set of books. You know that it's the

466
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Speaker 3: anniversary of the release of Shawshank. You got to have

467
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Speaker 3: a second set of books around, so you got all

468
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Speaker 3: that going on. But it's just the idea that you've

469
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Speaker 3: had all his success that it wouldn't be able to

470
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Speaker 3: play out for the rest of the year no matter

471
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Speaker 3: how bad it got, or were you risking to your

472
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Speaker 3: mind losing whatever. Recruits were already on the books as

473
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Speaker 3: commit committing. And this is weird, right because the last

474
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks we're seeing a lot of movement in

475
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Speaker 3: the coach in Karausel already and we're not even out

476
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Speaker 3: of September.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could say this is it. You could say, hey,

478
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Speaker 1: Mike Gun, you're gonna let you announce this is your

479
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Speaker 1: last year. Like you can do that and still move on.

480
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Speaker 1: You can still move on and talk to recruits. This

481
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Speaker 1: is what's that because whether you fire the guy or

482
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Speaker 1: let him stay at the end of the year, the

483
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Speaker 1: recruits are going to think about it, Do I want

484
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Speaker 1: to flip? Do I not? If you have a succession

485
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Speaker 1: plan in place, or he's gonna get to finish this season,

486
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Speaker 1: like you know that. That's something where I'm like, I

487
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: think the guy's earned the right for that, right I

488
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Speaker 1: think he has. I think he's earned the right to

489
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Speaker 1: be able to say, hey, this year is not going clearly.

490
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Speaker 1: You know it doesn't. It doesn't push any timeline up,

491
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Speaker 1: Like have an interim coach in there now. Okay, so

492
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Speaker 1: you have an interim coaching now, but are you gonna

493
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Speaker 1: make a change at the end of the season. You'd

494
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Speaker 1: be making a change anyway with Mike Gundhy. At least

495
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Speaker 1: now you have more of a better transition. You can

496
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Speaker 1: continue to talk to the recruits more like. It's not

497
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Speaker 1: perfect in any way, and like you know, sometimes I

498
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Speaker 1: feel like, okay, if you're one in three, one and

499
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: two in the seasons getting away mulready, you don't have

500
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Speaker 1: the talent. I mean you look at what the guy's done,

501
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Speaker 1: and it's like it's not all of a sudden he's

502
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Speaker 1: become a horrible coach. It's okay, well things are happening

503
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: now and in in college football and with and I.

504
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, whether it's nil, whether it's transfer, portal, yeah, okay,

505
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 1: you need to do something else. But man, I mean,

506
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Speaker 1: like I said, this guy, you could have found a

507
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Speaker 1: way to do it with more class, or you know,

508
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: you could have said, hey, Mike Gundy's gonna coach his

509
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Speaker 1: final game this weekend. Right, this is gonna be the

510
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Speaker 1: final game of Mike Gundy, Right, A one more, one

511
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: more home game he's gonna get. You could have found

512
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Speaker 1: a classier way to do it than just Hey, yeah,

513
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Speaker 1: everything is as it is and I'm I'm giving my

514
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Speaker 1: weekly press conference. I'm talking about my contract next day.

515
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, You're gone, Like, come on, man, like

516
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: you there's there's so many different ways you could have

517
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Speaker 1: found a way to do this better.

518
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Speaker 3: Well, that's the other side of, you know, being defiant

519
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 3: of Hey, I've got this much time left on my deal,

520
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Speaker 3: So I mean, what are you gonna do?

521
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Speaker 2: Uh?

522
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 3: Probably isn't the smartest way to go about it either, Right,

523
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: He's a guy that hasn't held his tongue through the years.

524
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Speaker 3: And I'm not even getting into, you know, anybody that

525
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Speaker 3: wants to go down which side of the aisle he

526
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Speaker 3: espouses and whatever and whatever those beliefs. Just in terms

527
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: of dealing and administrating the football program, He's had plenty

528
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Speaker 3: of flare ups, shall we say, and trash talking moments

529
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Speaker 3: throughout the years. Maybe the the talking about what where

530
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Speaker 3: the nil is? Because obviously it's a changing face of

531
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Speaker 3: college sports, and we've talked about it a lot for

532
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 3: both football and basketball purposes of you know, with some

533
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: of these coaches, they flat out to I don't want

534
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Speaker 3: any part of it. And it's fine. You can find

535
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Speaker 3: someone else to do that part. You generally can hire

536
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Speaker 3: a lot of folks. Doesn't mean you're not gonna still

537
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: have to sit down with your pri recruits, right, the

538
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: biggest players on either side of the ball that are

539
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: going to rake in the most money, command the most things,

540
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 3: and you know, different amenities that you'll have to negotiate.

541
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Speaker 3: They have to sit with the parents and their agents

542
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: and managers and whatever else. And I get it, you

543
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 3: don't want to do that. Guess what, as a college coach,

544
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: you're already doing that and going to a bunch of

545
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 3: you know, rubber chicken dinners every year and glad handing

546
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Speaker 3: people you don't want to be in the same room

547
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 3: with anyway. That's just the nature of the beast, right,

548
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: There's a lot on your plate that you don't have

549
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: to do. And yes, this is an extension of it,

550
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: but complaining about that, talking about you know, responding to

551
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: questions about the start of the season, coming off a

552
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: rough twenty twenty four with I don't know, I got

553
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: three and a half years left, probably doesn't sit very

554
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Speaker 3: well with a lot of the folks that are, you know,

555
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: running the show here, even if you are a former quarterback,

556
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Speaker 3: even if you've been around the program, what is it

557
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Speaker 3: thirty five years or something like that, of his life,

558
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: all of that to say, yeah, I mean, could you

559
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: have been nice? He could have played nice too, That's

560
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: just not been his personality. And you know what got

561
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: them a lot of double digit win seasons and a

562
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 3: lot of glory through the years.

563
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Speaker 1: So this of course brings us to the Play of

564
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572
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Speaker 1: reporters talking to his players and asking them things that

573
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Speaker 1: Mike Gundy would really rather have not reporters talked to

574
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Speaker 1: his players about He gave us this rant for the

575
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Speaker 7: That's why I don't read the newspaper because it's scarbage

577
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Speaker 7: and the editor that let it come out it's garbage

578
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 7: attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right, and then

579
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 7: you want to write articles about guys that don't do

580
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Speaker 7: things right and downgrade.

581
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Speaker 2: Him the ones that do make plays.

582
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Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?

583
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Speaker 7: Where are we at in society today? Come after me.

584
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 7: I'm a man, I'm forty, I'm not a kid. Write

585
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Speaker 7: something about.

586
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: Me or our coaches who Mike Gundhy the I'm a man,

587
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm for it. You know, you forget about the beginning

588
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: of That's why I don't read the newspaper anymore.

589
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: It's garbage. Well I forgot about that, But I mean

590
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: this takes us all with this, we're going all the

591
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Speaker 3: way back to two thousand and seven. That's how long

592
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Speaker 3: that has lived in our published public consciousness. And that's

593
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: the the unfortunate thing for him, with as decorated a

594
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Speaker 3: career as he had. And you named a couple of

595
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: the stats, right, double digit win seasons, all those Bowl Games,

596
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Speaker 3: everything else.

597
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Speaker 1: It's that far speech from all those years ago that

598
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: trumps all of it. Man, you want a great story

599
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: about this, right, So maybe about a month after this happens, right,

600
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: maybe a month after this happens. This is when I'm

601
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: at ESPN and I'm doing all night and I was

602
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: filling in during the day, maybe a Dan Patrick. I

603
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: forget what day it was, but we're filling it and

604
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Mike Gundy was coming on the show as a guest.

605
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to my producer. We're getting ready to

606
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: go over questions from Mike Gundy. Like, okay, I said,

607
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: I got to ask him about the the A'm a man,

608
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: I know it's a month ago, but like it's a

609
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's a big deal. Like yeah, you know,

610
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: we'll find a way to bring it up, you know,

611
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: find a way to bring it up where you know,

612
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you're attacking him, you know whatever it was.

613
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, great, because that's the thing is

614
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: what people forget, you know, what what the what not?

615
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: What people forget. But what's not appreciated sometimes is that

616
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: when you do an interview with an athlete and you

617
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: ask them, you know, they know it's going to be

618
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: an uncomfortable question. The athlete or the coach will shut

619
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Speaker 1: down if they think it's not going to be an

620
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: enjoyable experience. Right, So you want to be able to say,

621
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Speaker 1: we want to talk about this, but I want you

622
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Speaker 1: to be able to say whatever you want to make

623
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Speaker 1: about it. So I just I said, okay, I'm just

624
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Speaker 1: going to bring it up and see what he says.

625
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Speaker 1: And they said all right. I said okay. I said, Mike,

626
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Speaker 1: you know Bob coming off the win this week, blah blah.

627
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Speaker 4: Go.

628
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: So it's been a month since you told everyone you

629
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Speaker 1: were a man and you were forty. I said, what's

630
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Speaker 1: the last month been like for you? And I got

631
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Speaker 1: my fingers crossed. I'm like, what's he going to And again,

632
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: this is when it was just a thing that was said, like,

633
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Speaker 1: it didn't become this famous thing now. And he said,

634
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Speaker 1: I'll never forgear this, Jason. I can't tell you the

635
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: attention that I've gotten over that talking to our recruits.

636
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Speaker 1: The recruits are calling our coach is going, I can't

637
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Speaker 1: believe coach said that, and he and he goes, I

638
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: can't tell you how this has turned into a positive

639
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: thing for me and us here because all of a

640
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: sudden it's brought up. Did the recruits want everybody wants

641
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Speaker 1: to talk to me about it? They want to talk

642
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Speaker 1: to our coaches about it? And what happened to make

643
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Speaker 1: this come up? And X Y and Z and I

644
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Speaker 1: could tell that he was being honest about it. This

645
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Speaker 1: wasn't well, it's a big positive thing, you know, it's

646
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Speaker 1: a big positive thing. Absolutely, I'm not gonna talk like

647
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Speaker 1: he went into detail about how this brought him into

648
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Speaker 1: a new stratosphere where so many recruits now knew more

649
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Speaker 1: about him and knew more about and wanted to know

650
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Speaker 1: about the program, wanted what was going on the interest

651
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Speaker 1: level in Oklahoma state. And I was stunned about that.

652
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, he's gonna give me a perfunctory answer,

653
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Speaker 1: that's just you know, X Y and Z, dot the

654
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Speaker 1: you know dot the i's across the t's. But you

655
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: could tell he's like, yeah, I didn't know it was

656
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Speaker 1: gonna blow up like this, right, Hey, the old no

657
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: publicity is bad publicity, right, Because I think he seemed

658
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Speaker 1: really surprised that this was how it went for him,

659
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Speaker 1: and that was not only just the immediate aftermath but

660
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Speaker 1: I don't think it hurt recruiting the rest of the

661
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Speaker 1: time for him. Nine wins, eleven wins, twelve wins, ten wins,

662
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Speaker 1: seven wins, ten wins, ten wins, ten wins. Pretty sure

663
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Speaker 1: he recruited pretty well over the next ten years after

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Speaker 1: that happened.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, everybody's gonna remember that that's gonna be

666
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Speaker 3: the thing that might get you in front of some

667
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Speaker 3: some recruits from their parents and whatever else, that this

668
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Speaker 3: guy's gonna have my kids back, right, I mean that

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Speaker 3: goes a long way, and getting into past that first

670
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Speaker 3: initial mailing and phone call or the assistant coach that

671
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Speaker 3: goes out to scout a player. All of a sudden,

672
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Speaker 3: it's hey, that's the guy that lost his mind on

673
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Speaker 3: reported I don't read your newspapers because it's that's carbage, right,

674
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the guy I'm probably feeling a little

675
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Speaker 3: more comfortable sending my kid to.

676
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Speaker 1: He's gonna look out for him. I just can't get

677
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Speaker 1: it was so awesome to hear him tell that story.

678
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Speaker 1: Although I had gone the other way on you, it

679
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Speaker 1: could have been. And I'm strong. I'm Coustry strong, I'm

680
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Speaker 1: from Oklahoma State. I'm taking you out, Are you forty?

681
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: I'll kick your ass. Smith, Yeah, yeah, come on up,

682
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: beat you up, and Dad Patrick and all those guys.

683
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Speaker 1: I'll show up and kick.

684
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Speaker 3: Your ass And I'm gonna have a mullet later on

685
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Speaker 3: in life too. You just watch and see how that goes.

686
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Speaker 3: That's the other thing. I mean, come on, is there

687
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Speaker 3: any better? No coaches had a better hair?

688
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Speaker 1: Do we? That bald we've had? Yeah, we've had some

689
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Speaker 1: buzz cuts. I mean that that is some lettuce man.

690
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you it was. It was an awesome experience.

691
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Speaker 1: But then again, there's awesome and then there's what we

692
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Speaker 1: just saw at Wrigley Field. Steve de Seger has the

693
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Speaker 1: latest on what's gone down in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 5: STEVEO appreciated hearing that cut again from Gundy because in

695
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Speaker 5: back to back sentence he mentioned reading a newspaper and

696
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Speaker 5: amateur athletes to college football.

697
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's that's how you know.

698
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Speaker 5: It's old another planet.

699
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Speaker 1: These are amateur athletes. These guys aren't doing this for

700
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Speaker 1: a living. Amateur apo.

701
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Speaker 5: So, Oklahoma State did fire coach Mike Gundhy today and

702
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Speaker 5: Oklahoma Sooners quarterback John Mattier will have surgery for a

703
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Speaker 5: broken hand and yes New York Giants rookie QB Jackson

704
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Speaker 5: Dart will start this week. Well, it's a w for

705
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Speaker 5: the Mets and what a wild game at Wrigley Field tonight.

706
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 5: New York was down five to one in the second.

707
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 5: They win at nine to seven over the Cubs, who

708
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Speaker 5: have lost five in a row. Met's got a two

709
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 5: run homer from Francisco Alvarez in the top of the

710
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Speaker 5: eighth inning. That was the difference. Save number twenty seven

711
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Speaker 5: for this guy named Diez, who they used for two

712
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Speaker 5: innings five strikeouts.

713
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Speaker 2: Now walks.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Man, other teams would love to have Edwin Diaz as

716
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Speaker 5: a closer.

717
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Speaker 1: I'll just say'd like it to be able to pitch

718
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Speaker 1: every inning out of the bullpen, every inning out of

719
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Speaker 1: he may be the starter.

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Speaker 5: Shortly at Philadelphia they have resumed after a rain delay.

721
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Speaker 5: Top of the ten. Phillies and Marlins tied three to three.

722
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Speaker 5: Kyle Schwarber an early home run is fifty fourth. The

723
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Speaker 5: Reds had won five in a row. They lost at

724
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Speaker 5: home four two to Pittsburgh, which is great news for

725
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Speaker 5: the Mets, who now lead the Reds by one game

726
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Speaker 5: for the final NL Wildcard spot. Cleveland is the story.

727
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: They're tied for first with the Tigers in the AL Central.

728
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 5: The regular season ends this Sunday. Cleveland was down by

729
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 5: fifteen and a half games in the standings in early July.

730
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Speaker 5: This is the biggest comeback ever. Cleveland beats Detroit head

731
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Speaker 5: to head five to two to start a series tonight.

732
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 5: Tigers have lost seven in a row. They've lost ten

733
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Speaker 5: of their last eleven games. Braves won their tenth in

734
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Speaker 5: a row. Baltimore shutout Tampa Bay. Boston won at Toronto

735
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Speaker 5: four to one. The Blue Jays clinched a playoff spot

736
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Speaker 5: on Sunday, but as the first place team in the

737
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Speaker 5: AL East, their lead is down to one over the Yankees.

738
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Speaker 5: Yanks got two runs in the bottom of the ninth

739
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Speaker 5: edge the White Sox three to two. The Yankees clinch

740
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Speaker 5: a playoff berth the White Sox with loss number ninety

741
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Speaker 5: nine of the season in progress. The Rockies are leading

742
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Speaker 5: at Seattle on nothing in the bottom of the fourth.

743
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Speaker 5: Houston has tied one to one at the A's bottom

744
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: of the second, padres with two early homers, up six

745
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: nothing on Milwaukee. In the top of the fourth, pitchers

746
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Speaker 5: show Hey o Tani and the Dodgers lead one nothing

747
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: at Arizona. Top of the fifth Giants have taken the

748
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Speaker 5: lead on Saint Louis foro to three in the bottom

749
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Speaker 5: of the third inning. And what a comeback. In the

750
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Speaker 5: WNBA Semifinals. Tonight, Phoenix in overtime wins at Minnesota to

751
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 5: tie this at a game apiece. Phoenix was down twenty

752
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 5: mid third quarter and the New York Liberty fired coach

753
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Speaker 5: Sandy Brondello.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. The Jason Smith

755
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. So now the

756
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: big story of the night oufl the Mets now hold

757
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: the final wildcard spot with five games left to play.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, how about this, You're not gonna believe

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Speaker 1: the NFL team I'm gonna tell you should trade for

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Maybe it is Cleveland that's next, right here,

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Speaker 1: Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 1: the day when it comes to this show. Come on,

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Speaker 1: you know sometimes I you know, I like to say

776
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Speaker 1: and people like to say the fact that a broken

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00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: clock is right twice a day. I said, hey, a

778
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: few minutes ago, I said, hey, wait till I tell

779
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: you what team should trade for a quarterback, And Alex

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Speaker 1: Tischer played his favorite drop that he plays all the time. Clear,

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Speaker 1: all right, turns out this is one of those broken

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Speaker 1: clock com Hey, this one's for you. Well well, yes, okay,

783
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Speaker 1: Well the quarterback is broken. A quarterback position is really broken.

784
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: He's talking more about the Browns. I mean, we're going

785
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: to talk to you later. I mean, that's a.

786
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Speaker 3: Separate conversation we do really about your buddy. The Browns

787
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 3: defense is lights out.

788
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Speaker 1: Okay. This is two of the three weeks where they

789
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: shut down Jordan Love and the Packers looked like they

790
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: were the best team in the NFL the first couple

791
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: of they were gonna go undefeated, and they shut down

792
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: Joe Burry the first week. Now, second week they lost

793
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Okay, they didn't play that well, but Baltimore

794
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: the game got away from them. But Cleveland gave the

795
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: ball away.

796
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of times in plus territory, like they

797
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: gave it game away.

798
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Speaker 1: They have no offense. They have absolutely not Joe Flacco's

799
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: quarterback rating this season so far as sixty five, okay,

800
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: seventy five, sixty five, fifty five, he's done right. They

801
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: have absolutely no offense. Don't give away a season you

802
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: can compete. It is a bad AFC. It is a

803
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: weak AFC North. You are looking at at a Cincinnati

804
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: Bengals team without Joe Burrow for probably the rest of

805
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: the season. The Ravens defense is absolutely putrid. And the

806
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Steelers are at the Steelers that you think they are right,

807
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: They're struggling. They're gonna struggle offensively. Be bold, you trade

808
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Speaker 1: for a quarterback and all of a sudden you can

809
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: win some games and be in the wildcard, maybe even

810
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: be in the division race. Because all of a sudden,

811
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: things have changed, Like the defense has played so well,

812
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: and we knew they were gonna have a good defense.

813
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be this good through three games,

814
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Speaker 1: because you're talking about three superstar quarterbacks and two out

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Speaker 1: of three games and two and a half times they

816
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: came in and said, yeah, we got you, we got you.

817
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Speaker 1: If you had any kind of offense, you would be

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Speaker 1: two and one right now, you'd be at the top,

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Speaker 1: and you'd be the biggest success story. You just make

820
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: it move. There's gonna be guys out there. There's gonna

821
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Speaker 1: be guys out there could put points on the board,

822
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Speaker 1: give you some offense. Make a move for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Trade There's gonna be guys available. Make that trade. Bring

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Speaker 1: someone in that can give you some kind of offense.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying this Brown your trade for

826
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. But I thought Dion said that door forgets

827
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Speaker 1: your door.

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Speaker 3: Because Philadelphia and Baltimore, I mean, what the hell am

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Speaker 3: I gonna do there?

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Speaker 1: Learn I'm okay, I'm ok against me. They're gonna start

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Speaker 1: five quarterbacks. I'm okay going against that. If they could

832
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Speaker 1: get a quarterback, I get it. Yes, Shador and Dylan Gabe.

833
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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, go get somebody that can win the

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Speaker 1: games right now, because you're good enough to win games

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Speaker 1: right now and be in it in the thick of

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Speaker 1: that division.

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Speaker 3: I did that new information. I mean, you got a pivot.

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00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: I mean, and there's opportunity here. A lot of quarterbacks

839
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: have gone down to injury. Joe Flacco, as we've clearly seen,

840
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: is not elite. Although they should have won that Week

841
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Speaker 3: one game. Man the hell, they should have won last week.

842
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: They should have won Week one again, they should have

843
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Speaker 3: been two and one.

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Speaker 1: We'd be saying Browns are the best story in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They don't have anything, and look at look where they are,

846
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: and look where they are.

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Speaker 3: They got Miles Garrett yelling and have brought Jordan run

848
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Speaker 3: all of that Baltimore's defense. Eventually you'll get back van

849
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Speaker 3: Noy and maybe you get a little bit healthier Alexander

850
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: and Vincent and you know, on the offensive side for Vincent.

851
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: But yeah, I like the cut of your jib. Go

852
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: be bold, Go see what the marketplace is. Go get

853
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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: You only doing no I've met, Get a quarterback, I said,

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Speaker 1: get a quarter Oh, I saw, Is that too soon?

856
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but but you spoke into a nebulous term

857
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: of get a quarterback. I'm trying to give you a

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Speaker 3: name that will be available for the You can bring

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Speaker 3: back Jamis.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, Hey, you know what you could trade for Tua.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure they'll be ready to attack and

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Speaker 1: trade right there. You can bring sick. That's a factory.

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Speaker 1: If said is going to a factory, and that's another

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Speaker 1: big story out of the NFL. Next Fox